
The Times leads with Nicola Sturgeon’s exit plan for Scotland. “The First Minister published a 26-page ‘framework’ for easing the lockdown and discussed plans for reopening schools, businesses and allowing small gatherings,” it reports. Sturgeon didn’t say when this might happen, but argued there should be a “better balance” between tackling the disease and protecting the economy. In addition, Arlene Foster, the First Minister of Northern Ireland, suggested that lockdown restrictions could be eased at a faster pace there than in the rest of the UK. Guernsey has already put an exit strategy in place, with gardeners, mechanics, estate agents and builders returning to work tomorrow. And in an encouraging sign, various senior Tories praised Sturgeon’s initiative, including Iain Duncan Smith, David Davis and former Chancellor George Osborne who said we need to start talking about “the hard trade-offs”.
According to the Telegraph, Boris will return to work next week (as predicted on this site on Tuesday). Will he make an appearance at the Downing Street press conference on Monday and unveil an exit plan? Sturgeon apparently thinks so. After all, why start talking about her own exit strategy yesterday unless she thinks Boris is about to do likewise? She evidently thinks a big announcement is imminent and wants to make it look as though she bounced the dithering Prime Minster into making a decision. She may be wrong of course, but Boris will have to do something to make it clear he’s back in charge. The holding line – that it’s premature to talk about an exit strategy while deaths are still peaking – won’t survive his return to Downing Street. Once Biggles has recovered from his injuries and is back in the cockpit, people will expect action.
But is the general public ready for a phased exit? One of the things I’ve been puzzling over during this crisis is the willingness of freeborn Englishmen to acquiesce to the greatest suspension of their liberties since the Second World War. And not merely acquiesce – most of them think the Government should go even further. According to an opinion poll published last week, only 6% of people think the current restrictions are “too severe”, while 44% think they’re “not severe enough”. James Kirkup, Director of the Social Market Foundation, has tried to unravel this mystery in UnHerd. One of the points he makes is that the 35% of the English electorate who identity as “very strongly English” are also the most authoritarian, according to research done by Paula Sturridge at Bristol University. “The more English you feel, the more likely you are to say that the state and society should tell people what to do, to make them conform and, when they disobey, to punish them harshly,” he writes. You can read his article here.
Thankfully, not everyone has fallen into lockstep with the new orthodoxy. A letter in today’s Telegraph is a reminder of how unimpressed many older people are by the official response to the crisis. Worth quoting in full:
SIR – Russell Lynch (Business, April 22) is right to warn the Government that to prolong lockdown for the over-70s would be “suicidal politics”.
There is widespread “elderly” contempt for the woke-driven pandemic policy: the craven subservience to discredited scientists; insulting war comparisons; deification of the heroic but ill-managed NHS; totalitarian hand-clapping; arrogant directives; officious policing; closing houses of worship; the brute ignorance of Christianity.
If lockdown is not speedily lifted, we 8.8 million “elderly” voters will take our revenge at the general election.
John McEwen
London SW1
There are some encouraging signs that attitudes are beginning to shift more widely. On Monday I noted that my local park in Acton was more crowded than it had been at any time since March 23rd and readers have been reporting similar experiences all week. For instance, one writes: “My eldest son, who lives in Thamesmead, goes out every early evening with his daughter for a walk. He assures me that in the last seven days or so there has been a dramatic increase in cars on the roads, more and more people about – often in groups that are quite clearly made up of children and adults from more than one household, and some evidently visiting other people. Prior to that it was silent with virtually no traffic.”
The Mail picked up on this new mood yesterday, noting that it was the hottest day of the year so far: “Britons all over the UK have ignored lockdown rules today to flock to parks, beaches and promenades as temperatures hit 75F.” The Mail reports that there were long queues outside B&Q stores across the country, as well as the Five Guys hamburger chain, and the AA says journeys were up 10% this week compared to last. If the public are tiring of lockdown it will be hard for the Government to keep it in place, particularly without an exit strategy. And the hot weather looks set to continue:

One sceptical website I’ve neglected to mention until now – and should have flagged up earlier – is COVID-19 In Proportion. It’s full of great graphs such as the one below showing that the the number of deaths in Week 15 of 2020 were lower than they were in some previous flu seasons:

The Media section is also worth looking at, particularly the bit comparing the hysterical alarmism of the BBC News website this week, when the ONS announced that 3,760 had died of COVID-19 in the week ending 10th April, with the home page of the same site on the 13th January 2018 when 3,075 died of respiratory disease. Needless to say, the latter contained nerry a mention of the unusually high death toll. As COVID-19 In Proportion reminds us, the cumulative death toll by the end of Week 15 in 2018 (187, 720) was higher than it was this year (184,960).
And here’s my favourite graph so far. If you take the assumptions that Professor Neil Ferguson and his team at Imperial College used to predict the death tolls in the UK absent a lockdown (510,000 if we carried on as normal, 250,000 if we continued with mitigation) and use them to model what should have happened in Sweden absent a lockdown, you get the following:

In case you can’t read the small print, the blue area is the daily deaths per 100,000 the Imperial model would have predicted in the “do nothing” scenario, the yellow area is what would have happened if Sweden had stuck with mitigation – which is what it did, obviously – and the red area is the actual number of Swedes who’ve died.
One of the reasons Professor Ferguson estimated such a high death toll in the UK absent a lockdown is because he assumed that <5% of the population had been infected and the overall infection fatality rate (IFR) is ~0.9%. As each day passes, those assumptions look more and more shaky. Yesterday, the results of an antibody study done in New York were published in which 3,000 people were randomly tested at grocery stores and shopping locations across 19 counties in 40 localities. The result? 13.9% tested positive, indicating 2.7 million New Yorkers have already been infected. In New York City the number is 21.2%. (In Stockholm it’s 25%.) And, of course, the higher the number of people infected, the lower the IFR, which is the number of infected divided by the number who’ve died. Mario Cuomo, the Governor of New York, puts the IFR at 0.5%, but in all likelihood it will turn out to be lower.
We’ve heard about the five tests our Government has set before lockdown can be lifted. Arch-sceptic Heather Mac Donald has devised five tests US state governors should set themselves before extending lockdowns. They are:
- How many coronavirus deaths do you expect to avert by the shut-down extension?
- What will your state’s economy look like after another month of enforced stasis?
- How many workers will have lost their jobs?
- How many businesses will have closed for good?
- How many of your state’s young residents, seeking employment for the first time, will be unable to find it?
When I made my original sceptical argument in the Critic last month, I pointed out that an extended lockdown would likely result in a greater loss of life than lifting it. But I was just talking about the UK. It’s becoming increasingly clear that the people who’ll pay the heaviest price for decision of Western governments to sacrifice their economies to keep the virus at bay will be those in the developing world. In this week’s Spectator, Aidan Hartley spells it out:
Starkest of all will be Africa’s economic collapse, wiping out jobs for many of the continent’s 1.2 billion people. Tourism, vital to the conservation of wildlife, forests and monuments, has fallen apart. Mining, oil and gas are close behind. Exports of tea, coffee and cocoa are also being hit hard. Until recently Africa served as a giant nursery, raising migrants to supply cheap labour for rich countries. Every month these workers send money home to their families, and remittances are now the largest source of foreign exchange in many countries. As diaspora Africans fall out of work, these funds are evaporating. In the high-density slums, each breadwinner might feed ten mouths. Nairobi city governor Mike Sonko promised mass distributions of Hennessy cognac because ‘alcohol plays a major role in killing the coronavirus’ — but such clowning aside, slum-dwellers have no cash reserves, nor a welfare state to rescue them. As global supply chains collapse, it becomes horribly clear that out of 54 African states, only Zambia is a net food exporter. Many Africans routinely rely on food aid. For oil-dependent Nigeria’s nearly 200 million people, life is about to get tough.
Another piece worth reading in this week’s Spectator – the 10,000th issue, no less – is Matt Ridley’s. Forget about finding a vaccine, he says, and focus on the treatments: “Within a month or two, one of the 30 or more therapies currently being tested is likely to prove effective and safe.” And there’s my column of course, although it’s not about the virus this week. (I also appeared the Last Orders podcast yesterday with Christopher Snowdon and Tom Slater.)
A bizarre article appeared in the Huffington Post yesterday arguing that it would be a shame if Oxford University wins the race to develop a vaccine because that could be used by knuckle-dragging nationalists as way to belittle the universities of other countries. Written by Emily Cousins, who teaches women’s studies at Oxford, it argues that any triumph for the ancient university “will be used as it has been in the past, to fulfil its political, patriotic function as proof of British excellence”. But as Andrew Neil pointed out on Twitter, if Oxford does develop a vaccine, won’t that in fact be proof of British excellence? After all, Oxford is consistently ranked in the top five universities in the world, often it he top two. You can read her bonkers argument here.
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Here is an article https://www.maurice.nl/2020/04/23/thats-how-big-the-impact-of-super-spread-events-is/ from a Dutch social geographer who studies the effect of so called “super spreader events”: events where many people got infected due to a special set of circumstances and behaviours. These events seem to have a very important role in the spread of the virus.
If we can avoid super spreader events, we can keep R0 down. Apparently, one of the things to avoid is loud singing or shouting in confined spaces, as it brings aerosols into the air spreading the virus very quickly.
Ending the lockdown would certainly greatly reduce the amount of shouting in this household.
Our 138,078 could have been arrived at by 550 super gregarious people spreading it to 10 others, those 10 to 4 others, to 3, to 2, who each then infected just 1.
This is the formula:
550+[(550*10)*4*3*2*1]
Obviously it didn’t happen like that… but it does show that just sorting out a few super spreaders could have obviated the need for this hysterical overreaction based on “science” – actually just ivory tower guessers loving their moment in the limelight.
Keep on adding to the bank of common sense. Simple measures such as hand washing, social distancing etc, can cause the transmission rate to fall without this ridiculous confinement.
Another interesting point in this work https://www.maurice.nl/2020/04/23/thats-how-big-the-impact-of-super-spread-events-is/ are the detailed graphs and charts of the spread of the virus. Death rates in the worst affected areas are running at over 400 per million inhabitants and still climbing, i.e. herd immunity has not been reached.
I’m interested to see responses to this line of thinking:
By the time heard immunity is reached, one would expect death rates to be quite similar in all areas, with some variations for demographics, method of counting, and effectiveness of shielding vulnerable groups. Right?
Death rates in most areas (in Italy, the Netherlands and also the UK) are well below 400 per million, so does that pour cold water on the idea that we might be close to herd immunity already?
Not sure, wouldn’t it mean that the virus isn’t as deadly as first thought? That certainly seems to be the news coming out of California where randomised testing, extrapolated out to the entire population, puts the IFR down to 0.03%.
We already know the data on who is most likely to die from the virus. So an on-going policy to recommend this demographic shields itself is the way forward, coupled with raised awareness of good hand hygiene etc, would keep deaths low. But, of course, that was the UK’s strategy at the outside before the baying mobs demanded our freedoms be surrendered and our jobs be sacrificed at the altar of “stay at home, protect the NHS, save lives”.
Baying mobs – such a great description.
Baying might be the wrong word for this context, how a baa-ing, as a herd of could-be-immune-but-too-scared sheep.
There is no consistency in cause of death recording so the data is not much help: “The intent is … if someone dies with COVID-19 we are counting that,” Dr Deborah Birx White House coronavirus task force response coordinator ‘Currently we have a huge bias in the numbers coming from different countries – therefore the data are not directly comparable’ Dietrich Rothenbacher, Director of the Institute of Epidemiology and Medical Biometry at the University of Ulm in Germany. “The way in which we code deaths in our country is very generous in the sense that all the people who die in hospitals with the coronavirus are deemed to be dying of the coronavirus. … On re-evaluation by the NIH,” he says, “only 12% of death certificates have shown a direct causality from coronavirus, while 88% of patients who have died have at least one pre-morbidity – many two or three.” Prof. Walter Ricciardi, scientific advisor to Italy’s minister of health So you can pretty much pluck any number out of the air to suit whatever point you would like to make. But more and more data points to large numbers of infections with mortality rates by age similar to figures… Read more »
The problem with that article is that we clearly have excess deaths now – and not before. So why all the excess death now?
People dying at home from other illnesses or diseases. That’s what the agreed consensus is. Around half of the excess deaths don’t mention CV19 on the death certificate, meaning they died of something else. But I suppose that’s a byproduct of the NHS’s obsession with “clear the wards”, which sent around 37,000 home from the hospital.
Oh, that, and the postponed cancer tests and treatments.
Can we be certain they’re not undercounting? Don’t get me wrong, I’m seriously skeptical of the lockdown – I just wonder whether this is a sensible argument to pursue – in as much as it’s perfectly possible to argue against the lockdown from more solid positions than this.
Under counting? They’re already adding CV19 to death certificates even if the dead person didn’t have a test and was never physically examined by a doctor. No, it would seem they’re over counting.
Have you seen this discussion of excess deaths?
http://inproportion2.talkigy.com/collateral_judgement.html
A&E attendances have fallen off a cliff……..
https://www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/04/Statistical-commentary-March-2020-jf8hj.pdf
People attending A&E for heart attacks and stokes have dropped by 40-70%here. the US and Spain, Lombardy. Those people are still dying …
Another study now indicating that the initial modelling assumptions, panicked by poor data from China and Italy (deaths ‘from’ Covid 19 admitted to be only 12% of total Covid 19 figure) used to justify the lockdown were way off beam regarding infection numbers, numbers of deaths from Covid 19 and so mortality rates. https://www.thelancet.com/action/showPdf?pii=S2468-2667%2820%2930089-X But you are no doubt correct. Any admission of that will be politically unacceptable, so our get out of jail free (not) card looks like being the high cost of the lockdown in collateral deaths outside hospital. The private medical sector in the U.S. demonstrates what happens to healthcare when it doesn’t get paid for: https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/finance/mayo-clinic-furloughs-cuts-hours-of-30-000-employees-to-help-offset-3b-in-pandemic-losses.html?origin=CFOE&utm_source=CFOE&utm_medium=email&oly_enc_id=4013B4524489F1Y Or is postponed, deemed non essential: ‘If millions suffering from joint pain cannot get treatment, many will lose employment due to disability, develop opioid dependence or addiction while managing pain, succumb to depression or mental health disease, or worse, die of a blood clot due to immobility. These dire consequences cannot be ignored, and treatment cannot simply be pushed aside as “elective.”‘ https://www.dailyherald.com/submitted/20200417/local-orthopedic-surgeon-talks-about-secondary-health-care-crisis-from-covid-19-pandemic There is a slightly different crisis brewing here: ‘A Scottish Government spokeswoman admitted the crisis had seen addiction services disrupted. She added: “Covid-19 presents a serious threat… Read more »
Doctors are noting COVID-19 on a lot of death certificates, we don’t really know to what extent they are over attributing deaths to COVID-19, perhaps not by much, but they certainly aren’t under-attributing by looking a cases which could be COVID-19 related and marking them as not-COVID-19. The ONS death figures also show the fraction of deaths with “respiratory” related causes, any COVID-19 death is certain to be one of those, but subtracting respiratory deaths from the total still gives a rise in non-respiratory ones.
I’ve checked the official ONS stats webpages and the source data spreadsheets they link to. You can clearly see that subtracting COVID -19 deaths (of which some won’t actually be caused by COVID-19) from the total. What remains is still rather higher than for this time of year in any previous year, and by a difference rather larger than the usual range of variability for the weekly death tolls in spring. It’s more like a third than a half, but given what we understand about its causes we can expect the proportion to keep rising until the lockdown ends, and then keep rising still as the slower deaths-by-lockdown start to appear. There is a definite sign in the data that non-coronavirus deaths have risen in lockdown. How long before people as a whole realise the harm lockdown is doing? It is our duty to point out these stats to everyone we know.
Thomas. How are you defining “excess deaths” ? A weekly comparison of the latest ONS data for week 15 up to 10 April shows many excess deaths above the 5 year average for that week, many of which have been coded with WHO mandated mortality CV codes of U07.1 ( tested ) or U07.2 ( untested or presumed ) and many have not, which are still requiring explanation. As the article states vis the InProprotion charts, “the the number of deaths in Week 15 of 2020 were lower than they were in some previous flu seasons”. The cumulative, year to date 2020 all cause mortality from the same ONS data up to week 15 on April 10 shows the following : 2015 = 179,622 2016 = 167,458 2017 = 172,191 2018 = 187,720 2019 = 166,435 2020 = 184,960 2015 to 2020 5 year average : 174,685 or 174,693 So, as at the end of Week 15 on April 10th, the total all cause mortality exceeded every year since 2015 except 2018 and is c10k ( 5.8% ) above the 5 year average for week 15 and yet it still did not show significant excess mortality overall. Why was the… Read more »
Dr Jenny Harries UK DCMO: 5 April 2020
CV-19 recorded deaths are not all due to CV-19 …
https://dailysceptic.org/how-many-excess-deaths-are-due-to-covid-19/#comment-238
MG
Think we need another week to really show if the Swedish figures follow or contradict Ferguson, the peaks do start to rise, so important to see if the latest trough is more consistent or leads to a much bigger peak.
The peaks are artificial, caused by the reporting of deaths. Weekends drop really low. – check out the deaths by date, it’s pretty obvious they’re out of the exponential stage of the virus, and possibly declining. https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/09f821667ce64bf7be6f9f87457ed9aa
It might leap up again, but not showing signs of that thus far – the numbers in intensive care would have to leap first and they haven’t.
Cheers, I think it will be very interesting to compare his predictions with reality, the really interesting graph I picked up is his mad cow predictions vs reality, which might be exceptionally close to the Swedish model if it continues, showing that existing controls already have the disease under control (just like the UK where the plateau is due to pre lockdown restrictions)
:
https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Graphical-representation-of-predictions-made-by-Imperial-Colleges-modelling-team-of_fig2_258066186
Doesn’t that show the Imperial model was about right? The policy adopted was represented by line C
Post hoc ergo propter hoc
It became known as ‘Carnage by computer’
The title of the accompanying article begins: ‘Wrong but useful……..’
‘…..reconstructions of the epidemic indicate that the rate at which new infections were arising peaked between 19 March and 21 March, and the number of reported cases peaked on 26 March – before these new policy measures were implemented. Therefore, the switch to more stringent control procedures could not have been responsible for this initial reduction.’
There was another view:
‘The course of an outbreak can be critically affected by minor and inherently unpredictable events, such as a single livestock movement. For this reason, predictive disease models, which depend on statistical probabilities of transmission, have not met with much success in predicting the spread of FMD from herd to herd, and still less the impact of control measures.’
‘The UK experience provides a salutary warning of how models can be abused in the interests of scientific opportunism’
https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/8951/e59ad3931dce8dbfd8cda6cb96f0663afefb.pdf?_ga=2.135443761.1811443278.1587733762-1195323256.1587733762
https://uncoverdc.com/2020/04/23/sweden-shatters-lock-down-model-as-curves-stay-flat/?fbclid=IwAR36rsCecsyNwuvl58clhFg5ax8FmyOKQpNEsQRHdUHBGBwlHKT2yqWuikA
Meanwhile, in Sweden you can still enjoy a flat white with your friends on a Saturday morning.
I think comparing Ferguson with his data at the beginning with the status now would be wrong. Not that much was known when he first started modelling. Let’s see what it says now. The fact it was “wrong” at the outset is not a surprise or a huge issue. The knowledge base is increasing all the time. For me, it is about what we do now knowing what we know now. Not worrying about misforecasting at the outset.
Lets not blame the scientists who made the dodgy predictions, it is easy to do with incomplete data. Finding good data on something as rapidly evolving as a pandemic is damn hard. Blame the politicians who chose to panic based on the models and failed to ask questions beyond the death toll (economic impacts, harms to civil liberties, deaths from non-covid-19 diseases, lost quality-adjusted life-years due to health conditions going untreated…) before taking action.
@ BoneyKnee. I agree – a month ago we had no decent stats on how deadly this bug is. Ferguson could be excused for this, but it’s not the first time his modelling of possible outcomes was incorrect by orders of magnitude. What I CAN’T excuse is the appointment of THIS particular “expert” to be a major Govt advisor for potentially the worst health crisis this country has seen for several generations. If the electrician you employed to put in a couple of new plug sockets did an utterly crap job, would he be the first name on your list when your house needed a complete re-wire? (And I am rather disturbed by emerging connections between Ferguson’s workplace, Imperial College, the latter institution’s receipt of considerable donations from the Gates Foundation, that Foundation’s links with the (staggeringly corrupt) pharma industry, that industry’s Holy Grail of COMPULSORY vaccination, and the latter’s removal of one of our fundamental rights – that of sovereignty over our own bodies – which opens the door to increasing Governmental control of our lives.) What do we do now, knowing what we know? Unless there’s a rapid change in the picture, a number of things are becoming… Read more »
On March 19th the 4 British public health bodies noted that COVID-19 should not be classed as a high consequence infectious disease. Here are their reasons:
“Now that more is known about COVID-19, the public health bodies in the UK have reviewed the most up to date information about COVID-19 against the UK HCID criteria. They have determined that several features have now changed; in particular, more information is available about mortality rates (low overall), and there is now greater clinical awareness and a specific and sensitive laboratory test, the availability of which continues to increase.”
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/high-consequence-infectious-diseases-hcid#definition-of-hcid
So, they knew enough about CV19 on the 19th of March, but still went ahead and announced the lockdown on the 23rd.
I wonder if they have really thought through the policy of containment with contact tracing ? This seems to be UK plc s latest strategy . If you are going to maintain this until a vaccine comes ( unlikely despite all the noise from the media ) or a cure ( very unlikely ) then to be actually effective anyone coming into the UK will need to go into 2 weeks quarantine. This is the policy at present of NZ and Australia . Are you going to visit Australia next year if you have to spend the first two weeks in some dodgy accommodation in quarantine?
Contact tracing barely works for STI s but most people can remember the names and identities of their sexual partners. It certainly won’t work for a respiratory virus… I was in the third or fourth carriage of the tube train somewhere around 9 am.
When I hear this talk of a vaccine, I’m reminded that COVID-19 is from the same family of viruses that cause the common cold, which takes me back to my childhood and asking “why isn’t there a cure for the cold?”. How CV19 will respond differently to a vaccine is puzzling.
There’s never been a more confident interviewee on Andrew Marr’s programme than Sarah Gilbert last weekend. She is 100% certain that her vaccine will work. Not only that, it will have no unwanted side effects because we understand exactly how it works, apparently. And as a bonus, it will generate lots of lovely antibodies that can be measured in tests for years afterwards.
She gave no doubt that if the upcoming global government suggested vaccinating seven billion people with it, she would sign on the dotted line without hesitating and not lose a moment’s sleep.
It seemed to contradict all those stories about the virus being ‘novel’ and something we know nothing about, that may mutate in unexpected ways and react with previous antibodies producing dire outcomes etc. Such talk is for losers.
I suppose her confidence is matched by the Government’s £120,000 one-off payout for the side effects of vaccines.
https://www.gov.uk/vaccine-damage-payment
Cold can’t be cured because it mutates SO FAST. Flu needs a new vacine per year as it chanegs quite fast. COVID-19 comes in two strains and fortunately neither had yet been seen to mutate any further, for a virus which has caused millions of infections all around the world this is very slow to mutate. A vaccine is still atleast 6 months from mass production even if initial trials go perfectly, I would be very impressed by them working well first time without atleast some tweaking, from experience in non-medical scientific projects I can say that success without a few rounds of tinkering is something reserved only for those who are both very lucky and very skilled. We need to accept living as close to normally as possible (mild social distancing, better hygiene, less very big crowds, no extreme measures) with the small COVID-19 risk to life until such a vaccine can be rolled out.
The IFR for NYC with earlier, onset would be between 0.6-0.8%. This also needs to be interpreted with the caveats of the testing location, but Cuomo also indicated that the numerator was an understimate as it excluded home deaths. So something around 0.7% may be about right.
Incidentally, a)stopped being Governor on NY in 1994 b) died in 2015
I have also been wondering about the willingness of the population to surrender their freedoms. I know many who are intelligent, with inquiring minds, who have happily acquiesced without question. I think Jonathan Sumption hit the nail on the head when he described how tyranny often begins with the willing handover of freedom in return for protection from a perceived external threat. My family of 5 have (probably) all experienced the virus and my experience of dealing with the health authorities early in March was such a debacle that I realised there was no centralised understanding of the experience of the general population or even any way of monitoring simple data. (The 111 health line could not even track repeat callers and had no record of the length or type of symptoms.) This personal experience informed me early on that the government was acting blindly and was making no real attempt to gather wide-ranging data to inform its decision-making. Indeed, a randomised population sample has only just been initiated. It is not a comfortable position to realise the inadequacies of our national response when the consequences of either action or inaction are so grave. In the absence of a direct… Read more »
GLT : “I have also been wondering about the willingness of the population to surrender their freedoms.”
Same reason as you surrendered yours probably …
MG
surrendered freedoms: Because we can’t see a way to claim them all back, single acts alone and ignored don’t achieve anything, if someone could start organising on actually doing something at scale then the rest of us could follow.
The Myth Of Protecting Our NHS… One of the biggest myths being pedalled by the government and mainstream media is the great delusion that we are “protecting our NHS” by implementing the current lockdown measures. Are people forgetting how the NHS is funded? The NHS is largely paid for from general taxation, with a small amount being contributed by National Insurance payments, and from fees levied in accordance with recent changes in the Immigration Act 2014. So what happens to general taxation and NI payments when we shut down the economy? They fall. Sky News reported yesterday that economic activity in the UK has fallen to what they described as probably “the worst economic slump since the beginning of capitalism”. We are not talking the 2008 financial crash. We are not talking about the two world wars. We are talking about the worst financial slump recorded ever. Ever! In history! The current shutdown measures are estimated to be costing the UK £2.4 billion per day in borrowing. To put this into perspective that is enough to hire 28,235* doctors for a year, 66,667 nurses, or build 26 hospitals (including the necessary infrastructure) for EVERY SINGLE day that we are shutting… Read more »
A few of us on the sceptical side of the hysterical mob are wondering if this is all about a giant reset button being pushed, or a ctrl-alt-delete of global proportions.
Indeed. Looks very much like it to me.
The Government is going to come under increasing pressure to raise NHS salaries across the board after the pandemic has passed. This at a time when millions of people have had their salaries and benefits much reduced or in many cases lost completely. The bravery of NHS frontline staff is clear but they cannot be excluded from the sacrifices that ALL will have to make as we bring the economy back from the brink. NHS staff can at least take some comfort from the fact that their salaries and benefits are being paid and protected as the pandemic rages.
Exactly. And how does the government think it is going to fund its payroll of more than a million NHS workers sustainably? The lockdown is causing more harm than good.
Roll on LOXIT
How will 8.8 million elderly – or any other – voters take revenge at the next election as the author of the letter in the Telegraph suggests? A hole so deep has been dug that any major party will not dare to seriously question the lockdown position either in the near future or at the time of the next GE, merely chipping away at the edges of the policy as Starmer is doing currently (inevitably given a more extreme policy than present is almost impossible). Who will someone concerned about the obliteration of liberties (of people of all ages), willing to distinguish between the pandemic and lockdown and scrutinise the government, vote for? Unless there is a massive shift in public perception, which will need a mainstream media shift which can now essentially be prevented by government, I can not envisage an anti-lockdown or sceptic option on the next ballot paper.
It is this cross-demographic and cross-party nature of this ‘there is no alternative’ insanity which has presumably led to desperation for many finding near-totalitarianism insufferable (‘dare I question this with anyone in real life…?’). Lets hope the sceptic voice grows through outlets such as this one.
It may end up being questioned in our courts by individuals and organisations who have sustained substantial loss as a result of the government’s lockdown policy. Unfortunately if government decisions are effectively challenged in this arena we will collectively pay the price.
The 2021 elections have already been suspended. One has to admire The Telegraph’s correspondent’s optimism, both for their own longevity and a functioning democracy in 2025 …
DO tell people in real life. A lot more than publically admit it think the lockdown is wrong, they just need the confidence of seeing others come out to dissent it to get them to admit that they are against the lockdown. Start them slowly on talking about how they’ve suffered, bring up the subject of incidents of serious injustices with overzealous policing especially directed against NHS workers that they’ve been idolising, make hints towards the health consequences of lockdown and then get them thinking about how useful their local shops and takeaways are and how sad they’d be to lose the option to buy things there. Don’t mention anything which sounds like a conspiracy theory, focus on effects they can see, not speculation about causes.
Hmm, looking closely at the two Ferguson graphs, it seems that the “moderate” numbers were obtained by using the very sophisticated modelling approach of dividing the “do nothing” numbers by two. Expertise indeed…
Prof Neil Ferguson’s “computer model” – thousands of lines of undocumented, 13 year old code …
https://dailysceptic.org/are-sceptical-voices-being-suppressed/#comment-236
See also : Neil Ferguson’s antecedents in :
Who controls the British Government response to Covid–19?
https://www.ukcolumn.org/article/who-controls-british-government-response-covid19-part-one
MG
“No free man shall be seized, imprisoned, dispossessed, outlawed, exiled or ruined in any way, nor in any way proceeded against, except by the lawful judgement of his peers and the law of the land.“
Clause 39 from Magna Carta
“The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants” — Albert Camus
Has anyone seen Dr Erickson‘s Covid-19 press briefing on 23 ABC News yet? Mind blowing!
He says, “ In Kern County, we’ve tested, 5,213 people and we have 340 positive COVID cases. Well that’s 6.5 percent of the population. Which would indicate a widespread viral infection similar to the flu,” Dr. Erickson said. He continued, “So if you look at California, these numbers are from yesterday, we have 33,865 COVID cases out of a total of 280,900 total tested that’s 12 percent of Californian’s were positive for COVID. The initial models were woefully inaccurate.”
https://youtu.be/xfLVxx_lBLU
Thank you RDawg. Agree! Never heard so much common sense in one place. I liked the way they said what ‘the science’ was the evidence, not the modelling, and that ‘the science’ should change as you get more evidence. In mid-March we knew diddly squat about the virus but the government was spooked by the so-called science that said we were dealing with Spanish flu type of virus. However, we are where we are and the important thing now is to base what we do on the emerging evidence and not stick to earlier preconceived ideas. In particular what is the appropriate IFR to assume going forward? Based on the evidence in this video and other data emerging over the last month or so I would argue that it is nowhere near as high as the 0.9% assumed by Ferguson (see the vigorous debate elsewhere on this website).
By the way, do you know whether the testing numbers they were quoting were representative samples or biased towards those who might have the virus?
Hi John, Thanks for your feedback. Unfortunately they do not say if those who were tested were a randomised sample of the population, or only those who showed symptoms. Without randomised testing with large sample sizes, it makes it harder to get a reliable IFR prediction and thus extrapolation of data to the population as a whole. Also I don’t understand their comment of having a “0.01 chance of dying from Covid“. Does this mean a 0.01 PER CENT chance, OR are they saying you have a 0.01 out of 1 chance (which equates to a 1% chance of dying)? This is pretty important!! Neil Ferguson, as with his previous predictions, is now starting to look incredibly stupid. He has a history of doomsday modelling and getting it catastrophically wrong, yet the government still listen to him. Why? This really baffles me! His model predicted a mortality rate of 0.9% and it is now starting to look a lot closer to 0.1%, which as we know is about the same as seasonal flu. Also his model did not consider the building of the extra Nightingale hospitals (which have been largely empty or unused) or that hospitals could effectively double their… Read more »
https://www.timesofisrael.com/government-approves-reopening-of-most-stores-hairdressers-and-beauty-salons/?utm_source=The+Daily+Edition&utm_campaign=daily-edition-2020-04-24&utm_medium=email
Israel is opening up
Why are some of the provisions of the Mental health Act 1983, being changed by Schedule 8 of the Coronavirus Act 2020 ?
How do we explain the same changes being applied in the Republic of Ireland’s legislation ?
MG
In a worse case, dystopian dictatorship, you could imagine someone refusing the vaccine being classed as “mentally impaired” upon on the word of one “health care professional”, being forcibly removed from his home and taken to an “isolation centre”.
Oh wait, no, that’s actually the law now.
Its what was done in the soviet union, psychiatrists had a diagnosis for a form of symptomless schizophrenia which they diagnosed in anyone who was anti-communist. That said this won’t be used againsy vaccine refusers, the state doesn’t have the time to be all that bothered by those few. Far more conceringly this will be used against political opponents.
The figures from Sweden. One of the most disputed issue on twitter threads or blogs is the reporting from Sweden. The absolute majority is using the worldometer which is of very doubtful value especially as regards deaths which is not recorded on the day of death but reporting date. The most important figures are always the date of maximum deaths and date of maximum use of intensive care. There is a predicted time lag from infection peak to COVID deaths peak of approximately 21 to 28 days. The peak of intensive care is most likely a week before peak of deaths. I recommend everyone to got to the Swedish Public Health website and you can see for yourself update each day https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/09f821667ce64bf7be6f9f87457ed9aa When you see the map of Sweden on that web site you should click below on “information om datakallor” There you would be able to download an excel file with daily updated figures for day of death (avlidna) and day of intensive care. Today you can see the most likely day of maximum deaths is most likely 8th April or in the week after. There is a clear downward trend the last 5 days. The day of maximum… Read more »
May I ask how deaths regarding Covid 19 are recorded in Sweden? Are the numbers deaths ‘with’ Covid 19 or deaths ‘from’ Covid 19?
I cannot give you an exact answer but every death certificate must be signed by a medical practioner and I assume any mention of Covid-19 on it would be registered thus with Covid-19
Many thanks.
I don’t dispute that they’ve peaked, but be wary of the last 5 days; they are liable to be revised upwards the most.
I wonder what the nhs hospital beds occupation rate is as told my local hospital is very quiet and far quieter than normal. Why no stats anywhere as we do not all live in London but have the same lockdown. Politicians deciding policy based on poor data and not all of us cram onto tubes every day. A big chunk of the country is being shutdown for little reason.
Hi Toby
Thanks so much for your work
I would like to draw your attention to a couple of other websites doing excellent work:-
Off Guardian – lots of really good coverage. https://off-guardian.org
Great article yesterday ‘Why you can’t trust the UK’s “daily” Covid19 updates’, about how the daily death figures are calculated – using the NHS own accounting complete with the following proviso “Deaths of patients who have died in hospitals in England and had tested positive for Covid-19 at time of death. All deaths are recorded against the date of death rather than the day the deaths were announced.” It seems that the daily figure also covers deaths from a lot of other days!!
Another good website is:
https://swprs.org/a-swiss-doctor-on-covid-19/
This gives an overview and then is updated every day or two, so worth keeping an eye on. They put links to all their sources. I think I may have come to your site through them.
Have you noticed no one has died from influenza in the last two months. I believe it has been eradicated by my old friend Corona. I liken the whole thing to a King Kong v Godzilla movie where one leviathan takes out the other. Maybe the next Chinese import will defeat our current plague. The next blockbuster movie if you like. Coming to a cinema near you no time soon.
Question: Have we all gone totally, absolutely, utterly, friggin’ insane? Takeaway from this article: “Mario Cuomo, the Governor of New York, puts the IFR at 0.5%, but in all likelihood it will turn out to be lower.” Two days ago, John Ioannidis, Professor of medicine at Stanford, put the Covid19 mortality rate “in the range of seasonal flu” and stated that “for the healthy under-65s, the risk of mortality is negligible”. Ioannidis is basing his public statement on the latest test results; I doubt he would put his career and reputation on the line unless he was pretty damn sure of his facts. Note the word: NEGLIGIBLE. So small it can be neglected, just like the mortality rate for healthy under-65s exposed to a seasonal flu. You may get it, you may have no symptoms, mild symptoms, or absolutely bloody awful symptoms for a couple of weeks, then you will recover and have acquired immunity. What a sane UK would do is to: 1) Keep the vulnerable under restriction for the time being. 2) Make sure we have NHS capacity – by all accounts the Nightingale hospitals are largely empty – to cope with any incoming wave of new cases.… Read more »
Under the new coronavirus act, the state can enter your home and take biological samples and remove you to an isolation facility at their will. That would suggest the State already believes it owns our bodies.
I didn’t know that, Mark. Truly scary. Are there any lawyers of high reputation who will take up the cudgels against all these infringements of our liberties? Or is that another blind spot amongst the British citizenry today?
Reading the FT, along side the huge increase in non covid deaths, there has been an explosion in people dying at home, so we have the cause of deaths for all people?! Be interesting to see how much of a leap in other causes (ie heart attacks could be measured), this would clearly show that the lockdown is killing people.
https://www.ft.com/content/67e6a4ee-3d05-43bc-ba03-e239799fa6ab
A few days ago I came across up a very sensible, unemotional, analysis of the current hysteria surrounding Covid19. It was written last month by Craig Murray and is well worth reading; see link below https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2020/03/momento-mori-unpopular-thoughts-on-corona-virus/ In his article, Craig refers to the Hong Kong Flu that arrived in the UK in late 1968 and caused the death of 80,000 people. A bit of googling on my part has shown that the UK population at the time was around 55 million and there were two waves of this flu – over the winters of ‘68/’69 and ‘69/’70. As a 17 year old in 1968, Craig’s article made me stand back and think if I could remember anything from that period about bad winters and flu deaths – but nothing has come to mind. Similarly, my sisters cannot remember anything unusual from then regarding winter flu (and no – none of us are suffering from memory loss, senility, or dementia etc. (not at the moment, at least!)). To see how newsworthy it was at the time I thought it would be interesting to look up the newspaper headlines covering that period (all readily available online) but, again, there seems to be… Read more »
Same experience here. I have a vague memory of it being in the news, but no panic, no fear mongering media; I don’t remember it affecting life at all.
Here’s the difference in Brits at the time of WW2 and Brits now:
June 1940. Government and media: KEEP CALM AND CARRY ON
April 2020. Government and media: PANIC AND SHUT EVERYTHING DOWN
Good to read your reply – fortunately there are some pockets of sense and proportion still around! I am at a loss to understand why the UK, and indeed most of the world, have done what they have wrt. this virus. Rather than talking about ‘herd immunity’, I think it is time for a discussion about the ‘herd insanity’ that has got us in to this mess.
For info. I stumbled across a few graphs today (somewhere on the internet, can’t remember where precisely). They showed the build-up and decline of deaths due to UK Hong Kong Flu back then; it seems the outbreak lasted for 3 months over the winter of ’69/’70 and then disappeared by itself – and all of this without a lockdown!
Stay Safe! – oh, sorry, couldn’t help that!
I remember it as a young child. I actually was unwell with it and sadly my grandfather a WW1 veteran died with it. It was a part of life and may have made a paragraph or two in the newspapers but that was it.
Captive state. We clearly need an independent public inquiry into what has transpired over the last four weeks+ (and what remains of this lockdown), where the uk population has far too easily given up its liberty (the most important of all human endeavours) based upon half-baked scientific predictions. As well as a full and accurate comparative analysis of the data during this period, the inquiry must record the true cost of this lockdown on the health and wellbeing of the nation from the economy (yes it is part of our health and wellbeing chancellor!) to the impact it will have on the future funding of essential services.
Unlike napoleon (abba reference!), the swedes did not simply surrender their liberty…[refer to website link below]…
Time to move to sweden where the population still believes in LIBERTY and taking a PRAGMATIC APPROACH. Note their figures also include care home deaths (unlike the uk), the population is building up immunity and they did not trash their economy. It also again confirms that care homes / older people with underlying health conditions should have been the real focus for a ‘lockdown’, not the whole population. But of course I’m not a medical expert (‘who should not be questioned’) and the uk government (currently devoid of leadership) knows best. Thank you ‘big brother’ for giving me a 5 weeks and counting experience of living in a totalitarian state where you simply do what your told with no dialogue (consensus) reached with wider society.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-52395866