Boris Weighs Up “Nuclear” Options
There’s a story by Tim Shipman in the Sunday Times today that I’m struggling to understand. He reports that last Wednesday at 4pm the Prime Minister convened a war-gaming exercise in which they considered various responses to different “second wave” scenarios.
For an hour they mapped out options for the next few months. Simon Case, head of the COVID-19 taskforce, led a discussion of three fictional but realistic scenarios that reflected Whitehall’s fears about what could happen next. “There were three whiteboards in different corners of the room,” one of those present said.
In their tabletop war game, Johnson and Rishi Sunak, the Chancellor, first discussed an outbreak in northwestern England, then an outbreak in London and finally a general increase in infections nationally.
Under the first scenario, local authorities in the northwest saw a persistent rise in infections and the measures taken by councils failed to stem the tide. Johnson and Sunak agreed that the first lever pulled should be additional restrictions on household interactions. “There must be quick, decisive action,” Johnson said.
That evening, the fictional scenario became reality as the prime minister was presented with Office for National Statistics data showing a 66% rise in infections in a fortnight, with increases in Blackburn, Bradford and Manchester.
Where does that 66% figure come from? The ONS infection survey data released on July 31st showed an increase in the number of people testing positive over the past two weeks of just five. In the period June 29th to July 12th, 31,542 people were given a nose and throat swab, of whom 19 tested positive. In the period July 13th to July 26th, 28,325 people were swabbed, of whom 24 tested positive. So an increase of ~0.06% to ~0.085% in the unweighted sample. In the ONS table below, when weightings have been applied, this shows up as an increase in the percentage of the infected population in England of 0.05% to 0.09%. Is that the figure Tim Shipman’s referring to? If so, it’s based on an increase in the number of people testing positive of precisely five.
What about the claim that infections have increased in Blackburn, Bradford and Manchester? In section three of the ONS infection survey, headed “Regional Analysis”, there is the following caveat:
There is not enough evidence to say there are differences in the percentage of people testing positive for COVID-19 in different regions of England.
Indeed, the daily average for the percentage of the population estimated to be infected in the North West remained constant at 0.05% from June 15th to July 26th. In the same period in London, by contrast, it increased from 0.10% to 0.14%. So why local lockdowns in the North West but not in London?
In Shipman’s article, he goes on to say:
Wednesday’s war game also featured a sobering session on what might happen if such an approach was needed in London, where the number of cases is rising, though not as fast as in the northwest.
Er, no. As we’ve seen, the number of cases isn’t rising at all in the North West and is estimated to be rising a bit in London. (Was one of the five new cases in London?) So what does Boris intend to do if the number of cases in London continues to rise? Here’s where Shipman’s article makes for alarming reading.
In the war game, Johnson and Sunak agreed that in the event of a London outbreak, it might be necessary to scrap the entire “green list” of countries exempt from quarantine, meaning all arrivals would have to self-isolate for 14 days. “We’d need quick guillotine decisions,” one of those present said.
In March, the Prime Minister considered, and rejected, plans to lock down the capital harder than the rest of the country. But in Wednesday’s war game he agreed that if infections rose significantly, overnight stays in London would be banned, Londoners could be subject to stay-at-home orders, and close-contact services such as hairdressers would close. “The challenge in London is how quickly people move around on the trains and Tube,” a source said. “It would potentially spread much quicker than in other areas so you’d have to be quicker on the regional hammer in London.”
Most controversially, the ministers concluded that people would be advised not to travel in and out of the capital, raising the prospect of restrictions on those inside the M25. “That would be the border point,” an insider said.
God help the nine million people who live in London. A mad, hammer-wielding maniac has taken up residence in Downing Street and will “whack” the capital if a handful of more people start testing positive for the virus, regardless of the damage he’ll do to public health and the economy.
In the third scenario, which Whitehall officials called the “frog boiling” scenario, the prevalence of the virus increases gradually but inexorably across the entire country, with local lockdowns failing to snuff out fires. The response here, apparently, would be to extend the “shielding” policy to encompass everyone over 65!
Johnson sanctioned work to go ahead on plans for “enhanced shielding”, which would see the number of people judged clinically vulnerable and urged to stay at home increased from the current total of 2.2 million to “a much wider group”.
Yesterday, more than two million vulnerable people were released from shielding in England, Scotland and Northern Ireland.
This “segmentation approach” would see many more people receive a tailored letter in September or October, “before it gets cold”, spelling out their risk factors. Health issues and age would be taken into account – an approach that is likely to mean that a large number of people aged between 50 and 70 would be urged to stay out of harm’s way. Personalised advice is possible because scientists have better evidence about which factors most effect whether people survive COVID-19.
“At the moment, shielding is binary, you’re either on this list or off it,” said one of those familiar with the thinking. “But we know there isn’t a simple cut-off at age 70. People would get a personalised risk assessment. The risk rises after 50, quite gently to start with, and then accelerates after age 70.”
It is likely that this would mean people being put in tiered risk levels but would be controversial because it could be depicted as quarantine by age. Most of those affected, if the shielding plans are adopted, are likely to be over 65.
Can’t the over-65s just carry crucifixes and cloves of garlic to ward off the vampiric virus? I’m sure that would result in a far lower loss of life than imprisoning them in their homes.
Postcard From Melbourne
And if you want a glimpse of the future, a reader has written a “Postcard From Melbourne“, where a draconian second lockdown has been imposed by the Premier of Victoria Daniel Andrews after a minor uptick in infections. It’s not pretty.
Lockdown 2.0 was quickly imposed, a few postcode areas first then all of metropolitan Melbourne. A concern to anyone who values their liberty had to be the total lockdown of a number of housing commission apartment blocks with zero notice. By the time the Dear Leader had finished his announcement on TV that no one would be allowed to leave these tower blocks there were already hundreds of police surrounding them forcibly stopping anyone from leaving. Considering in ‘normal’ times they can’t rustle up two cops to attend burglaries, night-time home invasions or muggings etc. they were able to find 500 of them to police this hard lockdown with no trouble at all.
Of course the lockdown has had little effect so next was mandatory face nappies for all when you’re outside your house with $200 fines gleefully being handed out by the Vicstapo. Before that has even had any chance to have an effect Prof Sutton and Comrade Andrews are informing us that ‘Stage 4’ Lockdown will have to be implemented or the world will end. Still no concrete details but from leaks in the news sites it will be like NZ, everything barring supermarkets and essential services closed, no travel more than 5km from home, one occupant from a house allowed to go shopping and a huge increase in police patrols using numberplate recognition cameras to catch and fine anyone not complying with this madness.
I’ve given up trying to have an adult discussion with anyone here. I know of only two people who are lockdown sceptics like me. Every single other person you speak to is a complete COVID Lockdown fanatic who will not contemplate any other view. It’s quite unsettling. Aussies love to make out they are this rough, tough, she’ll be right, bunch of rebels when in reality they are a nation of supine, compliant rule followers who love nothing more than ‘dobbing in’ someone else for not following the most petty of rules and regulations. They are such a nation of bedwetters someone has actually started manufacturing home wares with portraits of the Victorian Chief Health Officer, Health Minister and State Premier – bizarre and creepy!!
Worth reading in full.
No “Second Wave” in Western Europe, Says Theoretical Physicist
Today I’m publishing a third update in the “Canaries in the Mine” series produced by Dr Rudolph Kalveks. Dr Kalveks, who has a PhD in theoretical physics, has used a standard tool in epidemiology – the Susceptible-Infected-Recovered/Resolved or (“SIR”) model – to analyse the lifecycle of the virus in different regions. In his first article in the series, he concluded that in Europe and America the pandemic was approaching the end of its life and a “second wave” was unlikely. He looked at the data again in the second article in the series and saw nothing to change his mind, and did the same in the third, concluding that while the fatalities might not have reached a ceiling in some US states they had in Western Europe. That’s also what the data indicate in his fourth analysis, published today.
The curves show that when the penetration of coronavirus in a country reaches a ceiling, typically represented by a fatality rate below 0.1% of its population, its spread slows to a standstill, with few further fatalities arising. This certainly appears to have been the case in mainland Western Europe, where the average daily death rates from the coronavirus have now declined to single figures (in terms of individuals) in every country, notwithstanding the relaxation of many of the lockdown restrictions imposed early during the pandemic. The “Canaries” are telling us empirically that Western Europe has reached or is close to herd immunity. Prof. Gupta at Oxford and other epidemiologists explain this in terms of the immune mechanisms at work in addition to antibodies, such as T-cells.
Worth reading in full. You can see all four analyses on the right-hand side as sub-pages of “How Reliable is Imperial College’s Modelling?”
Thousands of Protestors Join Anti-Lockdown March in Berlin
Great to see so many people turn out for an anti-lockdown protest in Berlin yesterday. A crowd of people, many not wearing masks, marched from the Brandenburg Gate on Saturday ahead of a rally in Tiergarten park. The demonstration was called “The end of the pandemic: freedom day”. Euronews has more.
Protesters held up placards promoting conspiracy theories such as “Corona, false alarm”, and there were chants of “we’re here and we’re loud, because we are being robbed of our freedom”.
Placards also read “we are being forced to wear a muzzle” and “natural defence instead of vaccination”.
According to the BBC, which also reported on the march, over 15,000 people turned out (although some local observers put it at 20,000).
The mood is peaceful but hardly anyone is wearing a face-covering or observing the required social distancing, our correspondent says.
“Our demand is to go back to democracy. Away with these laws that have been imposed on us, away with the masks that make us slaves,” said one woman.
Restrictions in Germany include the wearing of face-coverings in shops and on public transport, social distancing rules and hygiene requirements apply throughout the country. Mandatory testing has been introduced for holidaymakers returning from high-risk areas.
Germany has had more than 210,000 cases of coronavirus and more than 9,000 related deaths since the pandemic began.
What the BBC neglects to mention is that 9,000 deaths is less than half of the German death toll for seasonal flu in 2017-18.
The mainstream German papers have reacted to the demo in a typically hostile way. The German-speaking reader of Lockdown Sceptics who has scanned the German papers for us before has had a look.
German papers are highly critical of the demonstrators. The Frankfurter Allgemeine describes the people attending as “corona deniers” who, with their refusal to wear masks and adhere to social distancing rules (hardly surprising given they were protesting against lockdown regulations) are described – at best – as misfits endangering the health of others. At worst they are linked to neo-Nazi groups whose support for the demo is mentioned in several reports and helps to underscore the sense that people demonstrating to retain basic freedoms are extremists. Tarring lockdown scepticism with right-wing extremism has always been a common and obviously emotive thread in German reporting.
Bild is similarly relentlessly critical, painting the protesters as “corona deniers”, “conspiracy theorists” and “right-wing extremists”. Reading these reports you’d conclude that no moderate sceptics bothered turning up. The report is immediately followed by a headline shrieking that there are 15 new cases in Hamburg. Hamburg has a population of 1.9 million.
The Sueddeutsche reports on subsequent arrests of protesters, and features a quote from the Justice minister, Christine Lambrecht. “The freedom to demonstrate is an important right, underpinning democracy,” she begins hopefully. But she then shows scant regard for this right: “However, demonstrators should adhere to regulations that exist to protect public health, and I have no sympathy for anyone who so self-importantly ignores them.”
Cornwall Residents “Terrified” of Tourists
There was a depressing story in the Independent yesterday about how local residents in Cornwall are reacting with horror to the influx of “staycation” tourists.
Residents in Cornwall have expressed dismay at overcrowding due to an influx of domestic tourists on so-called staycation in the UK.
One local in Wadebridge said on Facebook that some tourists were not socially distancing because they “feel safe down here”.
“My shielding is paused from today but I’m too scared to go out,” she said. “Tried walking into town a couple of times but no social distancing at all. I was constantly doubling back, leaping out of the way and panicking just to keep my distance from the hoards. It’s horrifying.”
Another, in St Ives, said she was “too scared” to go food shopping because of the crowds and had told her children not to visit the main shopping street or the harbour seafront.
This was “the general consensus among friends,” holiday lettings manager Claire Harris told the BBC.
I was thinking of holidaying in Cornwall this year, having been many times before and loved it. But if the locals really are leaping out of the way at the sight of any tourists, I’m glad I didn’t.
The Mail has the same story. Apparently, some locals have taken to calling Cornwall “Benidorm on steroids”, while local “Marshalls” are patrolling the streets, making sure social distancing is being observed.
A Catholic Writes
A reader who recently converted to Catholicism has got in touch to tell me about his experience of attending Mass again for the first time in months. It wasn’t pleasant.
I am writing to you to share my experience of returning to Mass recently. As I had only become a Catholic last November you can imagine how much I was looking forward to returning to Mass a few weeks ago. However, my joy quickly turned to sadness. At the door of the church I was greeted by a “steward” who told me I had to put on a mask and then escorted me to my seat. Talking to other people was not allowed before or after the mass. Worst of all, the stewards were all donning masks, visors, surgical gowns and gloves. It made the experience more like an appointment at the dentist than worship! Oh, and I nearly forgot to say that no singing was allowed and when the priest came to distribute the host he silently dropped it into my hands. The service was shortened to 30 minutes. Evidently a full hour Mass might be deadly even though I could go and sit with a friend in the pub for hours safely! I left the service deflated and pondering whether to go again until these ridiculous restrictions are lifted. Perhaps I should start a catholic resistance movement called Massked Resistance.
Round-Up
- ‘The Not-So Great Cover Up‘ – David Lewin makes the case against face nappies in The Reprobate
- ‘Customer numbers fall after compulsory face masks were introduced in shops, figures reveal‘ – Mail reports that the introduction of mandatory face nappies has meant fewer people going shopping, not more
- ‘Senior Tory MP is arrested on suspicion of rape‘ – An ex-minister was arrested yesterday on suspicion of having raped a House of Commons researcher
- ‘Death of free speech in the US‘ – Caroline Graham in The Mail On Sunday reports on the assault on free speech in American newsrooms, while Andrew Roberts discusses a new Cato Institute survey that reveals that 62% of Americans are too frightened to speak their minds
- ‘The Government’s National Panic Service is being used to keep us in a condition of perpetual alarm about coronavirus‘ – Peter Hitchens’s column in The Mail On Sunday is always worth reading
- ‘Track and trace fails in 50% of “easiest” cases‘ – More evidence that Matt Hancock’s £10 billion ‘track and trace’ programme isn’t fit for purpose
- ‘Schools’ plan B for autumn Covid spike: online lessons for all‘ – Alarming report in The Sunday Times saying schools are preparing for more online lessons from September
- ‘LifeSite petition encouraging break-up of Big Tech goes viral‘ – An American website has started a petition urging the US Government to break up Big Tech to end censorship
- ‘Britain’s ship of fools sails on, rudderless amid the Covid seas‘ – Strong column by Jeremy Warner in The Sunday Telegraph
- ‘This is no time for a midlife crisis Boris!‘ – Dan Hodges thinks the explanation for the Prime Minister’s increasingly bizarre leadership style is that he’s having a midlife crisis
- ‘Mask rage: “One man told me I shouldn’t be allowed out if I can’t wear one”‘ – Unusually sceptical piece about mandatory face nappies in The Observer
- ‘Delaying herd immunity is costing lives‘ – Good piece by Martin Kulldorff in Spiked. He points out that the current lockdown is protecting the healthy instead of the vulnerable
- ‘Academic freedom on trial as sacked professor asks High Court to decide‘ – Article about Professor Peter Ridd who is fighting James Cook University in the courts after being sacked for challenging green orthodoxy about the Great Barrier Reef
- ‘They’ve Ridd us of this turbulent scientist‘ – Professor James Allan, columnist for The Spectator Australia, weighs in on the same topic
- ‘Top WHO disease detective warns against return to national lockdowns‘ – This is the same WHO official who said asymptomatic people infecting others was “very rare” back in June
Theme Tunes Suggested by Readers
Just one today: “You Don’t Need a Mask” by Rick Estrin and the Nightcats
Small Businesses That Have Re-Opened
A couple of months ago, Lockdown Sceptics launched a searchable directory of open businesses across the UK. The idea is to celebrate those retail and hospitality businesses that have re-opened, as well as help people find out what has opened in their area. But we need your help to build it, so we’ve created a form you can fill out to tell us about those businesses that have opened near you.
Now that non-essential shops have re-opened – or most of them, anyway – we’re now focusing on pubs, bars, clubs and restaurants, as well as other social venues. As of July 4th, many of them have re-opened too, but not all. Please visit the page and let us know about those brave folk who are doing their bit to get our country back on its feet – particularly if they’re not insisting on face masks! Don’t worry if your entries don’t show up immediately – we need to approve them once you’ve entered the data.
Forums Back Up and Running
I enjoy reading all your comments and I’m glad I’ve created a “safe space” for lockdown sceptics to share their frustrations and keep each other’s spirits up. But please don’t copy and paste whole articles from papers that are behind paywalls in the comments. I work for some of those papers and if they don’t charge for premium content they won’t survive.
We have created some Lockdown Sceptics Forums that are now open. Initially, they became a spam magnet so we temporarily closed them. However, we’ve found a team of people wiling to serve as moderators so the Forums are back up and running. Any problems, email the Lockdown Sceptics webmaster Ian Rons here.
“Mask Exempt” Lanyards
I thought I’d create a new permanent slot down here for people who want to buy (or make) a “Mask Exempt” lanyard/card. You can print out and laminate a fairly standard one for free here and it has the advantage of not explicitly claiming you have a disability. But if you have no qualms about that (or you are disabled), you can buy a lanyard from Amazon saying you do have a disability/medical exemption here (although it’s showing a delivery date of Sept 7th to 16th). The Government has instructions on how to download an official “Mask Exempt” notice to put on your phone here. You can get a “Hidden Disability” tag from eBay here and an NHS exemption notice for just £2.99 from Etsy here (see above).
And don’t forget to sign the petition on the UK Government’s petitions website calling for an end to mandatory face nappies in shops here.
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Aha BBC save the day again for Boris.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/articles/zqx3p4j
BBC Saves. Move over Jesus.
Oh my…
Love, can you flip on the Beeb website and see what they suggest for having fun today?
Hi all
Please let me know what you think of this idea.
The idea is to borrow from the Extinction Rebellion model and allow autonomous groups to come under one banner to help get traction with the public.
Thanks
Just commented on previous thread. Intended to be helpful. Replace allowing with gathering. Allowing doesn’t sound good. Pedantic is sometimes fundamental with comms.
Cheers Lockdown you are making good efforts.
Oops didnt notice the change of thread.
I like the bird in cage logo…that’s very clever.
But why Twitter?? Surely don’t you think that Twitter will rapidly take the account down?
I know it’s got more circulation than Gab, but we all know by now that Twitter is ruthless.
Twitter is just an example. We can be everywhere with multiple accounts like Extinction Rebellion do. There are so many heads on that hydra that it cannot be killed.
What about the Greek (I forget the name) that turns everything to stone? Could we find one of those? Could be very useful. Point it at Twitter HQ. Stoned!
Medusa or Gorgon?
Medusa is the name – gorgon was the kind of creature she was.
Petrifying is already in act. What you need is the call by which to break the spell, AS for XR – I see that as a completely astroturfed to down PR job. They effectively own all the bases and so as with BLM – can organise anything at across a broad base of captured proxies. Hence astro-turfed. The next thing is that ‘we’ can be totally infiltrated and subverted by the systems we run on so as to run with an illusion and be run by a master of illusion. Everything runs on consent – and the inducement to fear or reward operates to get you to give your consent. You cannot really change another’s mind – but in holding open a mind that is rooted in the heart’s honesty you can be a light to others without trying – just by being yourself. If you are fear-framed in problem you wont think this can mean anything. That’s ok. It means you choose to consent to the problem as the priority that your heart must be denied in order to adapt to. And if the self-betrayal is acceptable in exchange for a masked adaptation to a new normal you consent… Read more »
Say no to the Consensus. Remain skeptical.
I suggest you give Parler a try.
I like it. A national poster campaign like this will help to rally more people to the cause. To gain traction with the public, we need to steer the conversation away from the media’s perception of people who don’t support the lockdown, i.e. conspiracy theorists, on to a more serious discussion involving facts and figures presented in an easy-to-understand manner – much like Project Fear was, I suppose.
Well put. Thanks
Good idea and worth a try. But the trouble is the media have always categorised any one who doesn’t agree with them as a conspiracy theorist or tries to discredit them as far right / far left or as being crazy or past it. Once public opinion changes the media then start to change their tone, but us early sceptics will unfortunately have to take abuse until it gets to that stage. They have ignored and smeared various medical professionals and individuals such as Lord Sumption and Peter Hitchens so us mere mortals don’t stand a chance.
This is true Darryl, which is why we must steer clear of anything that IS conspiracy. Just the numbers.
I personally think the case for lockdown can be discredited on the inflated official numbers. Unfortunately the population seems so dumbed down that they don’t realise around 550,000 would die this year without ‘Covid’ and some people believe you should lockdown to save a single life. It’s hard to counter that level of thinking.
I often said to people (even before covid-19) that if they wanted to be perfectly safe, they could just try staying at home 24/7, but even then there’s a problem with atrophy, vitamin d, etc… and depending on what flies through their windows they might still get anaphylactic shock or get infected… Living—dangerous business 😉
We need to get simple, proven to be true facts out.
If someone sees a sticker and it gets them thinking and then their sister tells them the same fact the next day then a change can occur.
Those who think we should lockdown to save just one life should be asked how many cancer patients should be sacrificed to achieve that.
Then they should stop driving cars to save a single life. God I am getting so fucking angry with that moronic reasoning
Agreed – focus on the facts and statistics and avoid anything that could be labelled as “conspiracy”, even entirely plausible stuff related to WHO corruption and Big Pharma money. Also as much as possible avoid anything politically divisive that isn’t directly related, especially issues like Brexit and BLM.
I’d say it’s important to avoid anything that (a) makes it easy for the media to use labels like “conspiracy theorist” and “contrarian” (although they’ll probably do this anyway) and (b) might alienate or confirm the prejudices of people with different political opinions, especially those on the left who might automatically dismiss sceptics as “Brexiteers” and “libertarians”.
I might be too optimistic here but I think a lot of “lefties” outside the world of media/journalism (which seems, like the government, to have its own agenda regardless of what the actual facts are) might stop and think when confronted with the facts of the virus’s decline vs. the effects of the lockdown on so many people’s livelihoods and health.
By nature a conspiracy theorist and following research I think quite a few are easily verifiable with public domain facts but I agree with this. Steer away from conspiracy theories and stick with the numbers. That’s enough and it keeps the message clear.
Yes, but government numbers result from a government conspiracy.
I think the CEBM handled this element rather well. When they showed how it was technically impossible for anyone diagnosed with Covid to die with anything else they reported it as a statistically anomaly. Obviously, it came about because PHE had chosen to measure deaths in a particular way, but by simply highlighting the insanity of regarding someone dying in a bus crash months after recovering from Covid yet still being regarded as a Covid fatality they gave it more salience.
I personally don’t think the Government is responsible for this particular measurement issue – I think they’re simply too dim to understand this stuff – but people will draw their own conclusions from the basic facts.
The idea is to bypass the MSM and let the sceptical people convert their friends, families, colleagues and neighbours one by one.
The more people speak up, stating facts, then they have to listen. Just look at what happened in Germany yesterday, 1.8. 1.3 Million on the streets. The main stream media reported 20k, and stating they are AfD, conspiracy people, anti Gates, anti 5g. No, they mainly ordinary people afraid for their human rights and for the future of their children.
Lies do not establish the truth no matter how many or how forcefully asserted.
Rest in the truth and learn not to attend the lies.
I have not ignored Hitchens and Sumption and many others and I live the fruits of the choices I live. What others choose is not my business to control – but insofar as I am moved to I engage in communication – principally to wards waking to the fact that we are beings of choice and not set or locked down in anyone else’s meanings. The media are hollow tools of a desperate and deceitful lie. But their function remains a true service waiting to be fulfilled.
I think this is a great idea…. a united alliance against covid tyranny will hopefully gain traction.
It will require a figurehead though….. we got any autistic Swedish teenagers here?
Perhaps the figurehead ought to be named Goldstein?
Edit: I mean that seriously btw. NOT a flippant comment.
Sole guardian of truth in a world of lies.
Yes.
Abduct Greta T and subject her to hypnosis.
Also engage with PR connected individuals (with connections) to get into the papers, on TV and other social media feeds.
Thanks
some music to accompany your great idea and gallant efforts:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hZBEr9FKEo
Duppy Conqueror – Bob Marley and the Wailers
great choice!!
Anything like this is a move in the right direction! Yesterday’s Berlin demonstration was really inspiring, I really hope we can see something like this in the UK before too long.
I’d certainly be interested in joining a group local to me (Thames Valley, east Berkshire)
Set one up. You can be the guinea pig for the first autonomous group. Email me if you want leaflets designed etc
Cracking one.
Yes, count me in.
Where did you get the name “We Will Be Free” from? I ask this because that’s the name of the Twitter campaign page I’ve been running since April:
https://twitter.com/WeWillBeFree82
Can I suggest you give it another name?
You already have a pretty decent name in “Lockdown Truth”. I’d maybe stick with that?
Some others I’ve thought of:
– Lives B4 Lies
– I/We Do Not Consent
– No New Normal
– Our Lives Our Future
– The Great Covid Con
Just sent you a message on Twitter…
“Facts Not Fear” is a good one, not my idea but from this Twitter user: https://twitter.com/dockaurG
The New Abnormal.
The worry is you might get too many 5G and “anti-vaxxers” involved.
There are some legitimate rational concerns about vaccines hence my quotes. And maybe we don’t need 5G but it has absolutely nothing to do with Covid.
This sort of thing is not a problem for Extinction Rebellion as they’re quite happy to be madder than any of the hangers-on they attract.
We would have our official principle aims on the website and people would be bound by that. If anyone strays into dodgy territory we tell them to stop etc.
We need to crowd source this and bypass MSM. So there will be a risk of some people being silly. We just need to have an iron clad constitution (in more ways than one!)
That’s what big pharma and the MSM call us, guy. You seem like a rational human being – vaccine opponents ?
Anti-War demonstrators during the Vietnam War.
Vaccine sceptics? Vaccine realists?
Well I did use quotes and qualify the statement 🙂
For sure. Just trying to save you some pondering/typing time. 🙂
The few people who will listen to me when they have said “anti vaxx” and then I explain how stupid it seems to have a vaccine to an illness in less than a year when we haven’t had a coronavirus vaccine for 70 years and suddenly they are anti this vaccine, so actually it is a good thing for this one time! However of course vaccines which do prevent illnesses measurably without side effects are useful and should be taken. As for 5G, people need to go back to GCSE physics and learn the electromagnetic spectrum and realise that it is literally impossible that they can alter anything. Maybe if they’re worried about it being high frequency they need to stop opening their eyes, because visible light has a frequency orders of magnitude higher….
Crikey, if you’re the best the bad guys can do, this crisis is over.
‘vaccines which prevent illnesses measurably without side effects’ – go for it. There must be some …
5G radiation at around 60GHz is absorbed by oxygen, leading to problems with it (oxygen) being up taken by blood/haemoglobin. ‘Literally impossible they can alter anything’ is just untrue.
How does that lead to problems with it being taken up by haemoglobin?
Ideally, 5G proponents would have to prove there are no problems. 🙂
I dunno is the proper answer; the current status of 5G means that getting an accurate answer might be tricky. Vague recollection of an ancient Russian paper suggesting issues in animals ?
Always good to do these things one step at a time though – ‘5G can alter things’ being step one.
Like the idea and have just followed the Twitter page.
Thanks a lot for this.
Thanks
In Germany they have local groups Querdenken. They orginsed the demo in Berlin yesterday, with 1.3 Million people attending, not 20k like the mainstream media claims. I would love to have a local group, mu town is so conservative, and all the people with half their faces covered give me anxiety attacks.
Great idea. Can I make a suggestion that I hope you will take as constructive criticism? Instead of ‘We Will Be Free’ how about ‘We’re Taking Back Our Freedom’? ‘We Will Be Free’ has the unspoken ending of ‘when they let us’ rather than the proactive ‘we’re doing this ourselves’. WE have the power, after all.
ER are irritating, upper middle class, pseuds who were intensely annoying to most ordinary people. I certainly didn’t see them winning anyone over. If you want a model for a distributed network of activists Antifa would be a better example. Or AQ.
Hey that’s a thought. Where are the Extinction Rebellion useful idiots? Don’t they want less humans? Well here’s the perfect chance for all of them to become “cases”. “Cases” does mean carriers of death on their way to the grave doesn’t it? Anyway, it’s what they want. They’re not cowards are they?
great pic of the protests in Berlin Toby
I watched several streams and there were A LOT of people there
some drone footage of the Berlin protests would have been helpful in guaging the number of people there
I don’t think Melbourne is a “minor uptick”. It looks like they’re actually getting their Covid epidemic now.
Postcard to AU from the UK: it’s not that bad, protect the hospitals and care homes, go easy on the ventilators, wash your hands, don’t panic and it will all be over in three months.
It will all be over in terms of the virus, but definitely not in terms of the madness to follow…
I have a horrible feeling that, whether through incompetence or actual malice, they’ll make exactly the same mistakes with care home/hospital infections that the UK and many other European countries (and US states) did.
But maybe, just maybe, the Australian situation will also make more people realise the futility of the “zero Covid” approach.
Personally I don’t think the care home deaths were truly a ‘mistake’ – I think they wanted to reduce the pension ‘burden’…
However, as overall mortality is not out of average range – the population is so far rather resilient despite the degradations.
While not applicable to those in end of life ‘care homes’ – the overall deaths may have dipped as a result of escaping medical treatments. Whie this may sound flippant. IN UK and USA iatrogenic disease is at least third leading cause of death. But as with masks, belief in protection can outweigh any evidences as a result in lack of belief in the body as resilient, regenerative and resourceful in coping under stress.
I live in Melbourne and think “minor uptick” is an appropriate description. There have been a total of 123 deaths in the entire state of Victoria over the last 6 months, and these mostly due to recent outbreaks in care homes. Yet our premier has just declared a state of disaster in Victoria, the media has hypnotised the population into a state of panic and hysteria over daily infection rates, and cowering in fear of the terrorizing police presence . I feel like I must have fallen down a rabbit hole, bewildered by the high strangeness that surrounds me.
A small number of deaths like that does potentially mean you’re close to a tipping point because there will be a great many more infections. Australia has hardly any herd immunity. They managed to stomp on it before with about 100 deaths so perhaps they can again but I think the following is working against them: it’s winter, and lockdown fatigue. If they do want to have another go at stamping it out they are going to need very strict restrictions for a short time, and then shift gears rapidly to herd immunity plus mitigation as soon as it’s clear they’ve failed. This is going to be almost impossible politically so I fear we are going to see the worst of both worlds. A few thousand Covid deaths depending on how well they do with treatments and management of care homes plus destructive and futile restrictions causing thousands more. Is there any case for even trying to halt the inevitable? I know most here will think not and I’m inclined to agree. But a sketchy vaccine or two may not be far away and some people might think having come this far it’s worth a shot. You can make a… Read more »
I certainly agree it is futile to try and halt the spread and we should just “take it on the chin”. But I am afraid that would be going against carefully orchestrated public opinion. Almost no one here is able to put the deaths into context and come to terms with the fact that elderly people in care homes do die with predictable frequency .
I am still reading the latest on Melbournes”State of Distaster ” to find out what it actually means.
From our Premier “This means that police and others have additional powers.We can suspend various acts of the Parliament and make sure that we get the job done and there’s no question about the enforceability and the way in which new rules will operate.
Anybody breaking the 8pm curfew, we always reserve the right not just to fine you on the spot but to take you to court – and then it’s not $1,652, it’s actually $10,000,”
So martial law then.
Very nasty stuff. We never had it that bad in the UK. They were fairly small fines and hardly any enforcement.
So their scientists have discovered that the virus is nocturnal and only stalks the streets after 8pm?
It’s either a nocturnal virus or a coup.
The state of play in Australian cities at the mo literally sounds like V For Vendetta
It really is. Part of me wants to pretend it is happening, because it couldn’t possibly happen in Australia.
$1652 is a weird figure. Where did they conjure that from?
I don’t know about you Nat, but I’d think that a state of disaster would mean complete collapse of society and bodies lying dead in the streets. Someone needs to introduce Daniel Andrews’ ugly face to a brick wall. I am entirely against my will stuck in Australia until this nonsense ends, but my mother and aunt are just as furious as me, and my cousins and some of my friends get away with as much as they can. As my grandfather is dying from metastatic pancreatic cancer, we all have no patience for this ridiculous farce. I can only imagine we are far from alone, and this may well be the final straw. I hope to see police snubbed, violently if need be, in the streets soon (for what it would represent – the complacent populace finally pushed past breaking point).
I did see a woman walking her dog without a mask – it appeared to be in her hand, but that is certainly not permitted by their illegal regulations.
It’s going to be painful. At least in the UK infections had already peaked before the lockdown so all they all had to do was sit back and enjoy the tyranny while taking credit for falling cases. But in AU they’re going to be still going up for a while.
Don’t expect herd immunity to be non existent in Australia. The considerable spread of common cold coronaviruses no doubt will have a considerable effect as elsewhere, and Australia has always been very popular among the Chinese so if the suspicions regarding much earlier spread of a milder form from this time last year are correct, Australia will have a lot of immunity already present in the population. This seems so far to be borne out by the figures, but we shall see anyway.
The NSW chief medical officer recently revealed that tests on blood donations and serology surveys had shown that 1-2% of the Australian population has been infected. Upon questioning she later said that she believed that it would be less than 1%. At best, there is a long way to go if these figures are correct.
That’s a similar situation everywhere. I think the pre-existing cross-immunity is important but is likely to be about the same everywhere. At least, there’s no reason to think it would be any different in Australia.
When I say “no herd immunity” I mean nothing to stop the initial spread of SARS2 compared to any other country. I would expect it to follow the same sort of curve and to end up at about 20% serology.
I feel for you Nat. I’d be losing my mind if I was living in your neck of the woods
The hysterical public and mad scientists got what they wanted. Stage 4. I’m miserable about it.
It’s winter in Melbourne. New Zealand likely to get a bit of it too. But neither country is very crowded, people live outside a lot so healthy. They’ll be fine, except for the poor sods with cancer etc who’ll get thrown under a passing bus.
That’s the trouble with the restrictions in Melbourne – basically you’re not allowed outside. And the ‘infections’ are up one day, then massively down the next, there’s no clear trend. They’re also almost certainly from at least a week before the date they’re announced, given the amount of time it is reportedly taking for people to get results from the bogus tests.
You are correct: Australia had no outbreak in March/April/May – it was almost entirely returned travellers.
Unfortunately for your advice, Daniel Andrews has already failed on care homes, despite the warning signs from abroad. Most hospitalisations are care home residents, though at least they’ve evacuated them FROM the care homes and not TO them like the UK.
I absolutely loathe Daniel Andrews but those people weren’t long for the world regardless. The care homes had issues before this and despite the Royal Commission inquiry, not that much improved.
Ported across from the previous thread as just posted before new page.
Sunday View. The Richie Allen show. One hour of excellent comment taking apart the UK msm corona/covid19 propaganda.
https://www.podomatic.com/podcasts/richieallen/episodes/2020-08-02T04_11_34-07_00
Wise thoughts about not becoming depressed by this. Warnings about where this is leading and not to expect others to do what each of us must. A really good hour of a radio show.
Useful to share onwards to any open minds that do watch BBC SKY etc and are starting to question.
I listened to it too. From Montreal, Canada. Am now listening to his Tuesday, July 21, 2020 broadcast.
Not all academics have fallen for the panic narrative. Professor Dingwall, like Professors Heneghan and Gupta have been consistent throughout. Let’s hope, in addition to notable colleagues overseas, somebody – anybody – in government starts to listen before it is too late – that time is sooner than many think:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8585039/Professor-Robert-Dingwall-calls-sense-proportion-brands-Covid-19-nasty-infection.html
Dingwall is great.
Unfortunate typo, though. He is quoted as:
“‘Covid-19 has been linked to about 50,000 deaths in the first 16 weeks of the UK pandemic – but about 1,000 people normally die every week.”
That should be 10,000, not 1,000.
Unfortunate or deliberate by subbie?
I thought that was odd!
Professor Robert Dingwall, whattaguy!!
This is scary. Mainstream media is now running the UK and they love a disaster story. 2nd wave now inevitable whether it happens or not
Whack-a-mole? I’d have more confidence in Guacamole!
I’m hungry
Salsa anyone?
HIGHLY RECOMMENDED : Please listen : Interview with Prof. Harvey Risch, Yale Prof. Epidemiology who is calling for immediate use of HCQ because it works:
https://pandemic.warroom.org/2020/07/31/ep-309-pandemic-emergency-tactic-w-dr-harvey-risch-david-bahnsen-bill-mcginley/
AARGH! They are NOT CASES. A “case” is when an individual has symptoms, a doctor suggests it might be x & sends off tests and the test comes back + ve for x. That is a “case” of x. Perfectly healthy people wbo test +ve are NOT CASES. I know that most here know this, but the constant twisting of language is making me sick! I suggest all mention of “cases” (other than direct quotes) are placed in inverted commas as above. . . . Grrr!
Literally whole areas of science and medicinal practice are being re-written under COVID-19… I hope one day the society looks back on this period and realises just how moronically they’ve behaved.
They’ve changed their language a bit now and are referring to ‘infections’ more (because it sounds scary) and ‘positive tests’. ‘Cases’ is still their favourite.
Exactly. The term ‘case’ has developed this new Humpty-Dumpty meaning of a ‘positive’ result from a highly suspect and inappropriate test for RNA fragments.
It has nothing to do with viral infection or illness, except by coincidence.
Yaas. Just saw ITV news reporting an increase in “cases” on South Africa. On screen was a sign of remembrance for the dead . . .
There are simply different versions of mind capture and those who still value the freedom to question the language and meanings that frame the mind of conditioned reaction or polarised identity, have the conscious recognition of just how unconscious we collectively are – when masking appearances are peeled away.
Almost everyone refers to Orwell but how many have chosen to learn to recognise and unpack doublethink?
So yes ‘cases’ are simply reinforcing a false assertion tha human beings are vectors of infection regardless of actual or clinical disease – as our new ‘conditioning’ or ‘normal. and every time anyone argues within such an idea they reinforce it and give it more power to choke the basis for any individual freedom, right or creative inheritance, outside the permissions of a bio-security state that is anti-biotic at its core.
The figures for Berlin turnout cited above are very low compared to the impression gathered from following live streams. I’m sure the true numbers will be never known but high tens of thousands or more would be more in keeping with what I saw without being there.
German comments on youtube live stream were using the ‘m’ word for numbers. Regardless it was a very impressive demonstration and a high point of the gathering fight back.
Nertherlands and Bulgaria also had protests yesterday. And London.
I would agree, it honestly looked like hundreds of thousands to me
I thought somewhere between 30-50k from the footage I saw
Shame Toby didn’t give a shout out to the London protest we need all the attention we can get to get to the Berlin numbers. This was the biggest anti Lockdown protest in the UK to date by far. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncQRUu56np8
Favoured protests get their numbers inflated / unwanted protests deflated. Bit like with government pet projects they make the numbers fit with their agenda. YouTube apparently downgrade viewing numbers for videos it disapproves off as high viewing numbers equal more clicks – most people act in herds unfortunately.
Indy ref marches are hilarious forvthe war over the numbers. 90k claimed, police say 10k – police are skewing the figures.
All I know is Ihave had an ariel view of marches in edinburgh 12k max was claimed to be 100k.
It’s amazing what a bunch of flags and a telephoto lens can do.
Berlin live streams were in amongst it and walking backwards to the procession. It was big.
I was there, it was at least 250.000 protesters, 10x more than reported in mainstream media, biggest protest since 1989. Here is a good article about it (in german) https://multipolar-magazin.de/artikel/gedanken-zum-august-2020
Bring out your dead! I was thinking about past major pandemics that have plagued humanity and thought it might be pertinent to briefly compare the worst to the one we are currently faced with. Perhaps it may add some perspective to the situation we now find ourselves in.. *The Plague of Justinian. Took place in the year 541 AD and was claiming up to 10,0000 lives per day in Constantinople. Bodies were so numerous that they were stacked inside buildings or left in the open. Over a third of Constantinoples’s residents died and the ‘plague’ (probably (bubonic) eventually spread to Europe where, according to the ancient historian Procopius, killed at least 25 million people. The actual death toll may have been much higher. *The Black Death. Started in 1347, probably from the east and invaded Europe. It lasted around five years, killed somewhere in the region of 50 million people which was estimated at half the population of Europe. Whole populations of towns were wiped out and it was said that the living spent most of their time burying the dead. *The great plague of London. This took place in 1665 and at its peak was claiming the lives of… Read more »
Indeed. But you don’t have to go that far back to show up what an incredibly stupid shit-show is this pantomime. Simple fact :
Anyone my age ( mid-70s) will have lived through more than a dozen epidemic seasons of more mortality than this one!
… and (by definition) – have survived without noticing the fact.
I copped bad bouts of ‘flu in two of the real pandemics (as opposed to this political one) – so I don’t need any f.ing lectures from Cabinet idiots and their satraps, and I’m quite (actually *more*) capable – as someone in the vulnerable category – of assessing my own risks. I’ll take my chances and try to dodge any bullets – of which there are none around at present; it’s a cease-fire.
I certainly am not going to take medical risk advice from a narcissistic liar of no accomplishments other than self-advancement and bull-shit.
Yes, maybe we should (in our leaflet) quote the numbers who died in the UK in recent flu seasons where those number were similar to Covid deaths?
eg ‘In (year) x thousand died of flu in the UK, but we did not lock down, nor did we do social distancing, close schools or wear masks’
I also think we did to make people aware of the numbers who die daily in the UK under ‘normal’ circumstances..seems most people have no clue!
Absolutely. Especially for instance how many people died from pneumonia and bronchial complications last year, and how many this year.
Sorry—glitch in posting!
Last paragraph in full:–
Plagues of the past were treated by medical ‘experts’ using bloodletting, leeches, lancing and other crude techniques which we now look back on with ridicule. Today, we are urged to wear masks, refrain from visiting our families, cease all methods of touching and affection, stand at least two meters apart and perform ridiculous gyratory movements in our efforts to avoid other people. All of this advice is given by today’s medical ‘experts’ complete with their plethoras of diplomas and degrees. I cannot help but think that the doctors of the middle ages might be worthy of more credibility.
This pandemic is one of government stupidity and so-called “scientists” trying to drive their own agendas. (btw, this is not meant to libel or decry those scientists who are still following scientific method using observation, data and only model as an aide, rather than as a theory)
The Immunity Clause.
Fell through the gap so am posting this again. Is there any mileage in asking shops and supermarkets to post the government’s list of exemptions to mask wearing at their entrances, along with links to where exemption cards can be printed off? After all, they display the mask signs but not every shop announces, like ASDA did on Friday, that some people are exempt and not everyone can hear what is said, or even wants to listen. I am aware that many people haven’t a clue about exemptions. Some places, like railway stations carry the sunflower symbol for hidden disabilities but we were only made aware of that a few weeks ago when we enquired at our local station about maskless travel. Someone posted on here that Sainsbury’s are also selling the lanyards. if comments in the Daily Fail are anything to go by, under the link posted here yesterday about loss of footfall, you would think that shops would be glad to do something to help themselves-many people there refusing to go shopping until masks are dropped. kh in response to my post on the previous page says she thinks shops are too happy to wield their new power,… Read more »
Not really, they are not “exemptions” they are examples of exemptions, the crucial part is the reasonable excuse (one that can be reasoned about against the use of mask).
Yes, I take your point IMoz. Well then, display a poster saying that some people have a reasonable excuse for not wearing a mask then go on to list all the examples.
Or as an alternative do it by means of a question i.e. Do you have a reasonable excuse for not wearing a mask? See the list below.
As with most things, it’s all in the small print!
That could enable arseholes to start nitpicking “you’re not on the list of reasons”… Just a poster saying that “Remember that others might have a legitimate excuse for not wearing a mask” and that’s it, is the most sensible solution that is difficult to argue with, I think.
Yes. Northern rail is doing just that and it seems the right thing to do in my opinion. Nobody by law can question you and you only need to tell shop staff that you are exempt. No need for any more details.
You are probably right. I like the poster idea. One of the points I was making above though, is that so many people are unaware that they personally could be exempt and would never think of looking on the government website for assistance. It’s those people that I want to help and “educate”. Also if people realised that they could be in breach of the Equality Act of 2010 and liable to be fined up to £9000, they might be less likely to bully a non mask wearer.
making above
Educating people tends to open up a whole can of worms, it’s probably safer to just say something along the lines of “see: [link to exemption examples in the SI itself]”
I saw this earlier
Latest from the not-so-wild High Peak: Yesterday evening, the largest of the local Coops was faceless-zombie-city except for OH, me and a woman we know in the distance. We know she’s one of us but she’d clearly hedged her bets by wearing a loose scarf round her neck but at least she wasn’t using it as a mask. Sadly we didn’t get to speak to her but it was nice to see her face! We didn’t get 2 yards in before a man (nutter?) shouted ‘masks’ at us. We said, ‘Excuse me?’ and he repeated, ‘Masks!’. His foul jockstrap was only over his mouth (just) and we said, ‘have you seen the guidelines?’ and he ran off. When we got to the till, we were greeted by huge smiles from 2 staff members who didn’t ask us anything (well briefed?) We told them about the nutter and they were cross about it and apologised (needlessly). We asked why the Coop wasn’t displaying information about exemptions – something I need to get back to Customer Care about – and they said it is being regularly announced over the tannoy. (We didn’t hear it while we were there.) Anyway, on we went to a birthday party. All rules followed, more-or-less, and we… Read more »
Psychopaths indeed. I prefer “war criminals” as that runs nicely parallel to the terms they have used in their propaganda. Hopefully, we will get a chance to have a Nuremberg trials type event in the future where justice is meted out to everybody who gave or was “following” orders…
Hi Edwina if you’re reading!
I’m a great admirer of your….. shenanigans 😆
I still eat my eggs sunny side up and runny :o))
Interesting that I’ve not had a single word said to me (re no mask) by anyone. One might surmise that these individuals choose their targets selectively ie bullies. I’m actually itching to fire off a polite ‘go fuck yourself’ – alas the opportunity hasn’t presented itself as yet.
As I said, we think he was bonkers and I can assure we don’t present as victims 🙂 . When we challenged him he ran off anyway.
We’ve had no trouble elsewhere and the Coop staff were friendly and didn’t even ask. What was funny was that his mask was round bis chin and he was not the only one not wearing them ‘properly’ in the store!
I’m not large or hairy 😁 but no issues either – been into Tesco & Sainsbury’s, large & small stores, then went into town today – The Body Shop – 2 very sensible (maskless) ladies, M&S – just one maskless lady at the self-service till with a small child & Superdrug, no problems. Disappointed, like others here, at the mass compliance of everyone & the amount of people walking just in the street in masks 🤨
Nor me.
Maybe because I’m a goon to seed rugby player build, fat, hairy and pissed off biker who likes wearing leather when I can.
No tattoos or beard though – tattoos because I never saw one I liked and beard, don’t have one as wife hate them.
What do you think we look like then?
Miriam – I am sure that you are not fat and hairy. Tom and Awkward are right though. I also am on the larger and hirsute side and no one has said a word to me either .
No idea and I won’t even try and imagine.
Just glad you’ve had no confrontations but willing and able to handle it if someone was stupid enough to start.
Years of working overseas on the drilling rigs in very, very remote places I’ve met lots of very strange people and learnt a long time ago to go by performance, not looks or perceived notions.
Same here Tom. I do suspect they go for those they see as easy targets. But many of those know how to look after themselves too! (And quite right too)
They don’t.
I always smile sweetly at the glarers. They hate that even more, haha.
Me too. It really throws them.
Can I just, please, stress again, we were not bullied and we are not victims! I only mentioned it because, unlike us hard cases, some people are terrified of being singled out. I meant to demonstrate that, even if someone says something, you do not have to let them scare you.
Actually it was really a non-event. The person in question was actually terrified of us which was why he just said ‘masks’ and, literally, ran off as soon as we challenged him. Like Farinances and Mr Dee, we tend to smile at masked people which may or may not disconcert them, who can tell?
Please tell me this is not a competition for who (M or F) is the most macho? 🙂
Apologies- not trying to be macho. I pooed my pants going I to Lidl the first time. Just an observation based on what people post. It seems to me the ladies are getting more hassle than the men. I would advise anyone wanting to make a stand to start with cornershops,post offices and offies.
Of course women get bullied more; it’s what bullies do. Fortunately, if you stand up to them, they run off, because that’s what bullies do, too.
Me neither I just get stared at and then I smile at them. Which they hate.
I’m from an ethnic minority so I suppose these people would not want to be accused of racism.
Plus I do have a tendency to look like a miserable git so others tend to stay away.
Somewhat similar round here – Tesco Express, local Co-op, local (Cherry Lane) garden centre and no-one says anything. Occasional looks, but can’t tell if it’s wistful or accusatory. Mind you, heaving around with a crutch does seem to help! (Genuine, BTW, recent new knee!).
Just a quick post as I’m on holiday! We’re in Cornwall in our caravan and I’m trying to pretend the world doesn’t exist… Certainly on the campsite everyone seems ‘normal’! No masks evident (though required in the onsite shop). The worst thing was the people working in the onsite cafe – we ordered fish & chips from there and it was served through a hatch, so no mask required when we picked it up. But, the poor people working inside were wearing them, whilst cooking fish & chips! And it was very hot in there. We haven’t ventured into any towns yet so I don’t know if those reports about terrified residents were how it really is.
enjoy your break most importantly. We all deserve to live, despite whats currently being rammed down our throats.
Thank you 🙂
I’m at a chalet site and apart from a new social distancing sign at the entrance you wouldn’t think anything was different this year.There is zero mask wearing and social distancing.Even the local shop has no restrictions.Children are playing and everyone has guests.
Oh lord, there’s going to be so much on FB about that! ‘don’t they know there’s a pandemic on’ ‘nobody’s wearing a mask’.
Seriously have a great time, sorry about the weather today.
I swear to god there people sat in their back gardens in Manchester having a house party whilst going on facebook and posting this shit
Like the sodding Karen who won’t send her kids back to school but is perfectly happy to take them to a crowded beach
Also like the douchebags beating up on Cummings who knew very well they’d been breaking the rules themselves.
We’re all hypocrites basically.
Except us :o)
See this is it. NOBODY CARES because we all know it’s bullshit. As long as you signal virtue in the right places (supermarket) you can act as you please. And people know it.
Dave from Essex, one of the people who has submitted a short video to Anna Brees YT channel is aged 70yrs, has various medical conditions including a brain tumour.
He says he feels like The NHS has closed for him, and feels that either authorities want him to die naturally or he has thought about taking his own life.
What a mess we are in, I am sure that if this chap feels this way how many more do?
https://youtu.be/iiwKjU1XU8I
That video was sad when he started saying that killing himself is “an option”.
I’d like to sit Matt Hancock in a room, have him watch that video and film his response. I suspect the result would change a lot of hearts and minds.
That guy is not alone. I read the other day suicides in the US are now higher than covid-19 deaths, will have to re-check to see if I remember correctly.
My wife is getting very despondent and friends of mine are on the verge of losing everything as tenants not paying rent and cannot be evicted, businesses got or cannot pay back the bounce back loan so going bankrupt.
I honestly don’t think many of those in power at the highest level have any empathy. They don’t seem particularly upset over civilian casualties in illegal wars (Tony Blair). Many sadly get to the top by lying and backstabbing.
Matt Hancock is a potential psychopath for sure. I think his response to such a video would show this pretty explicity
(There wouldn’t be one. He would probably roll out that sickening smirk of his)
he sold his soul.
i work with prats like hancock.
nothing behind the eyes.
Are we to give Matt the Death the same option?
His should be much slower and excruciatingly painful!
Death by a thousand cuts?
that’s roughly what is being inflicted upon now it would seem
Indeed!
I see him as hollowed out and possessed – or if you prefer a muppet.
Alex, A Clockwork Orange.
In the dim and distant past, there was a very nasty serial rapist/home invader in our area. I used to pray every night, and mean it, “Dear God, send him to me…”
I am much older now, but I am still available. I also am very cheap; I am happy to work for nothing, for deserving cases. I have a chair ready for a certain Professor in particular.
I think this will be a very common scenario. Doesn’t it feel like the NHS is closed? This is a return to pre NHS availability, quite literally. The NHS has not been saved it has been destroyed. This is why I am so livid everyday. The complete abandonment of our duty to the vulnerable and those in need without justification. Many people are going to die because of this, how can this be happening? A government inflicted assault on the people of this country. What is happening?
This is one thing I think Corbyn may have been better on. His party is so in hock to NHS worship (irony!!) that I can’t see them switching the NHS off for this long. Whereas the Tories don’t seem to give a fuck, but are disguising that by saying they’re ‘protecting’ it. Ironically they probably started off with precisely that thought when they were shitting themselves about capacity but now…. It’s all gone off the boil. And weirdly everyone, includes Corbynistas, seem to be congratulating them for it. They’ve destroyed the NHS whilst ‘protecting’ it and the people who love the NHS seem to love them for it.
The whole situation is well…
EXTREMELY Ironic to say the least.
I remember the NHS – amazing what can be restructured under PPP – while keeping a masking appearance of seeming to exist while being morphed into the CHS. Expect screen doctors to link with apps on your phone or wristband or implant. If you have the credits you get bio-genetic individual attention but if you are insider insider you will have a personal homeopath like old man Rockefeller.
Thinking about it though what Better way to make sure we all get tested/jabbed. No in person service unless you do.
Something for the autumn then. 😣
“In person GP appointments restored!
Safety guaranteed because everyone will get a free test and vaccine whilst they’re there!”
Like… actually. That’s evil genius.
I know I want my tax money back. Every last penny from the day I first paid it.
in addition, I want every single one of my claps back. So angry with myself that I fell for the Vera Lynn old timie propaganda. Took about 5 weeks for the penny to drop. Been angry ever since and annoying all around with my granny-killing ways. It’s exhausting and some mornings I wake up fearing that we will never have the satisfaction (pretty small in the context of the carnage) of saying-told you so!
Sorry. It’s been used to pay backbenchers to stay home and do nothing.
I think the whole thing should be burnt to the ground. Then scatter diesel to prevent regrowth and build a new one somewhere else.
My anger for the vile bastards behind all this, whether government, SAGE, whoever, is starting to burn as hatred.
Join the club.
Or rather, the battalion.
THEY will pay.
‘You had your way, now you must pay’…
Acknowledge THAT you have feelings and own what is your experience rather than give your power and freedom away, but note that hatred is very unlikely to reach its target but will poison you and leak into your relationships. So for what it is worth I feel for your experience as from time to time I also feel very disturbed. One way of looking at this is as a profound cognitive dissonance – or indeed loss of capacity to recognise or relate to anything real. This is recognised in some who have lived extreme trauma and who literally lose their capacity to recognise anything when triggered. Fight, flight or freeze. The first two have some movement through which to grow but a frozen or locked down mind is frozen in a torment they cannot move in or under and are simply compelled by fear. Fear may have a different narrative as insiders are privy to some of what is being enacted (ie they don’t fear a virus). So who or what is behind all the acquired assets, crisis actors or proxies that are played by carrot and stick? Or to look at it the other way – by what means… Read more »
This video is really sad especially after he says that taking his own life is something he’s considering.. The government and Sage should be locked in a room and made to watch it 1 million times or unless it enters into their thick skulls how much they have damaged this country.
Ditto the lockdownistas.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1317588/China-coronavirus-cover-up-scientist-military-lab-wet-market-where-did-coronavirus-start
Thoughts?
Apparently it came from a wet market in Wuhan. This wet market is a stone’s throw away from a virus lab:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wuhan_Institute_of_Virology
If it had emerged from a fishmonger’s in Porton, Wiltshire, I think the finger would have been pointing at Porton Down almost from the word go. But the Wuhan Lab – nah! couldn’t have been.
Read the above Wikipedia article, and see how this enormous coincidence is described as a “conspiracy theory”. LOL.
There is no way it came from anywhere other than that lab.
It is just too coincidental that the lab is in Wuhan. (And they don’t sell bats in that market 😉)
So do the govt know this? Is that why they panicked so much? Seems like a good explanation to me.
US lab. See my post above.
If this is a bioweapon it is a dud. As a psyop it is ‘working’ – every part of it is crafted including the wet market.
The core objective is to restate the fear of the virus as the basis for leveraging what is left of human consciousness into a new era of biosecurity (sic).
The virus lab was owned by a company that had Gates and Soros as major investors – Wuxi was the company’s name.
Here is a report from April about it:
https://www.3ccorp.net/2020/04/16/george-soros-bill-gates-partner-with-china-on-coronavirus-drug/
Excerpt from here: https://therealslog.com/2020/07/25/the-saturday-essay-the-best-whodunnit-hypothesis/ Time now to go back to the birth of Covid19, and ask the simple question: who was the father? I spoke to 13 experts in the field at the time. Five thought it was the result of natural evolution, five thought it was produced in a US Lab, and three didn’t know. Interestingly, nobody thought it was a Chinese bio-weapon. The factor persuading those who thought it was US made were the alleged ‘three AIDS-like spikes’ in its RNA: nobody, they argued, had more expertise than the US in working with AIDS. Indeed, arrests were made last January of Chinese and US citizens supposedly trying to export samples to China. The reaction of those who felt strongly Beijing had not developed Covid19 as a weapon was based on (a) their disbelief in such PRC bioweapon expertise and (b) simple reasoning – why develop a weapon against the West and than dump it onto your own people? There remains, of course, the possibility that the Chinese released the drug by accident…..C19 did originate in Wuhan market, not far from a PRC bioweaponry lab. However, one argument strongly against that idea is the draconian, mass-panic bewilderment that the… Read more »
I didn’t know about the US theory, thanks.
It’s been around for several weeks.
So WHO are now begging us not to go back into lockdown. Perhaps they should have thought a bit harder back in March when they were threatening countries that didn’t go into lockdown…
I’m starting to think Trump was right: get rid of the lot of them—they carry absolutely no liability for their words, yet they expect others to blindly obey
This is one thing that he is 100% correct on.
I can’t think of a single positive or useful thing they have said or done since this first began back in January.
Clearly the Chinese are now worrying that the Western economies are so knackered that no one will buy their tat anymore so WHO have now been instructed by their masters
If you go to WHO’s contributors page and compare the entirety of China with Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation you might be surprised — https://open.who.int/2018-19/contributors
It’s not the money. Gates might be large financial contributors (as were the US government) but the political clout is via the third world states who are now in hock to the chinese via the Belt and Road initiative
You think so? I’d do some background reading on the guy who’s leading WHO now 😉
Isn’t he a raving communist agitator?
Old Tedros… from Ethiopia.. A third world state in hock to the Chinese.
“Ethiopia has taken massive loans from China, estimated to be more than $12.1 billion since 2000.”
“According to the China-Africa Research Initiative African countries owe China about $130 billion.”
source
But yes – i think we can agree that WHO are being massively influenced
Read his history in Ethiopia
Lol you have a point
I’m more than happy to comply with that bit of begging.
I was discussing the lockdown with my teenage daughter yesterday and she naively said “But why would the government ruin the economy?” I said that they didn’t care about ordinary people, none of them are going to lose jobs and they probably benefit in some way we don’t know about. What is the better way to explain the government’s actions?
She is on social media and believes lots of misinformation.
Firstly, it is already ruined – but kept on life-support. Insiders anticipate and even orchestrate big Crashes. The ability to hold back a Financial System Crash so as to mask it in a pandemic is to make even more of a control grab than simply buying up assets for peanuts. Insiders anticipate and even orchestrate wars. The ability to mask major shifts of geopolitical restructuring in a ‘moral obligation’ to sacrificial slaughter and destruction is also to draw a line under a past that is no longer returnable to as ‘a forgotten and lost ‘normal’. This is a so called ‘soft war’ but pain and loss will not be soft so much as masked in narratives of masking denial. It may not be yours to change her mind or anyone else. And if she is not ready, this view of the world is more disturbing than a war on a virus (sic). The gov is Gated – its a PPP. Only in fairy tales do politicians do more than rubber stamp any important regulatory dictates. So as it is going down anyway, its is being used to make covid as a ‘must be real’or they wouldn’t do such a drastic… Read more »
In their table-top wargame, was Boris playing the side commanded by Lord Skrolk, Plaguelord of Clan Pestilens? Or was that Rishi?
Skaven are positively sane and rational compared to our government.
Am curious about HCID on gov.uk website.
Status was taken off Covid from mid March and has NEVER been changed, despite additional comment on the page regarding “government’s response”
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/high-consequence-infectious-diseases-hcid
The reason I ask is surely this is a very good base to start off with talking to “others” about this shitshow, along with the actual mortality rate (and its obvious overestimations)?
Ive tried to start a couple of conversations with long standing friends and am just getting stonewalled with “harder lockdowns” or “idiots at the beach”.
Its really hard to enter discourse lately and really need to find those “light-switch” bits of data that get people thinking for themselves.
I read somewhere at the beginning of all this that it was lowered so people could be treated in standard hospitals. HCIDs have to be treated in specialist isolation units of which there are very few.
Sadly, I do not think it is the ‘golden bullet’ we hope for.
Yes, I remember reading the same thing, although I think it was also considered not deadly enough to be on the list anyway.
Yes, it said it was because mortality was low.
The HCID list has some scary shit on it, poor little COVID would never make the grade,
Offlands, does Mason Mills have anything to say on all this, that you feel able to reveal?
Thanks for clarifying Offlands
I read it as a legal defence. Once the shock effects the leverage the headline is retracted or modified to leave the reactor holding the baby.
The fact that it restated complying with all gov covid regs on the same page has nothing to do with the fact that the basis for the regs has just been removed. Conforming to gov regs is in some cases not law but guidelines that were taken further by certain lockstepped actors that then set the public expectations that the gov could plausibly deny responsibility for.
“those “light-switch” bits of data that get people thinking for themselves”
… but … but … but … ‘thinking’ is precisely what brainwashing eliminates. That is it’s purpose.
And yes – you are right. Quote :
“As of 19 March 2020, COVID-19 is no longer considered to be a high consequence infectious disease (HCID) in the UK.”
Note the date!!!!!
That’s going to be their defence, when there (inevitably) is an enquiry…
Malcolm Kendrick suggested it was removed to avoid later legal implications – ie they were covering their backs.
Here is an e-mail from May that I sent to my MP: From what I can tell it is all very strange or I have all my dates wrong.What it says in the coronavirus Statutory Instrument which came into force on or about the 26th March 2020 is:Serious and imminent threat declaration 3.—(1) These Regulations apply where the Secretary of State declares, by notice published on http://www.gov.uk, that the incidence or transmission of Coronavirus constitutes a serious and imminent threat to public health, and that the incidence or transmission of Coronavirus is at such a point that the measures outlined in these Regulations may reasonably be considered as an effective means of preventing the further, significant transmission of Coronavirus (“serious and imminent threat declaration”). (2) The Secretary of State may revoke a serious and imminent threat declaration by way of a subsequent notice published on http://www.gov.uk. (3) Before making a declaration under paragraph (1), or revoking a declaration under paragraph (2), the Secretary of State must have due regard to any advice from the Chief Medical Officer or one of the Deputy Chief Medical Officers of the Department of Health and Social Care. The statement relating to the above was issued and posted on the gov.uk website but without fanfare… Read more »
Only slightly- not 2%. And the article explains it’s slightly up in Scotland.
But the article also says:-
“Compared with last year, footfall in England across all retail destinations remains 37.8 per cent lower”.
The whole masking policy I’m sure was principally intended to get footfalls back to the level they were. And early indications are it isn’t working. I’m certainly foot-falling less because the nearest shop to me has banned me for not wearing a mask.
I think the masking policy is doing exactly what they wanted.
Showing people to be generally compliant, even if they should not be wearing masks due to pre existing breathing difficulties?
I have seen people who clearly should not be masked, wearing masks and possibly they are going to feel the results later.
What would you say was that intention? I think it is also intended to limit the spread of the virus – that’s also clearly the government’s line. I believe it possibly will but at the cost of generating such a climate of fear any gain will be more than cancelled by the negative effect the fear produces.
“ I believe it possibly will “
.. at about the same level of probability that is, in practice, indistinguishable from wearing a rabbit’s foot – which is far better for you in terms of harm and discomfort caused.
The government know there’s no virus left to be spreading. Climate of fear is exactly what they want.
I don’t think they care at all about the high street.
If they cared about reducing people’s fear they would remove the hazard signage from press conferences and start a clever campaign to reduce fear. They have done nothing remotely like that.
They still want people to be scared. I don’t know why. But they do. They do not care about the economy.
They care about money being spent (flow of cash- which will eventually, they hope, make them look good)
They don’t care about the real economy (jobs and businesses- GDP will still be through the floor)
Yes. That’s why the first thing they have done in the new local lockdowns is to ban households from meeting – because that doesn’t make money. You can still however go to the pub or to a restaurant and spend your money there. Money first, people’s mental health and happiness later.
Exactemundo.
My theory that they don’t want people talking in private is a bonus but now I feel their primary motive is money (the spending of). Of course it is. It always is.
Yes, they want you to buy online, so all your purchases are done by card, and therefore cash becomes unnecessary. Also means they can track people’s purchases and only the big players like Amazon will survive..
But for the moment they are pretending otherwise..
90% of my spending is now cash at our local outdoor market and soon to be car boot sales. I need some gardening tools so rather than B&Q (cards only) it will be cash at the car boot; and no muzzles.
Yes. More online shopping – cashless transactions. Can’t blame lockdown you were free to use the real shops ……
First its a Gated Gov – a PPP. So it is acting in wider Corporate interests under various narrative ‘targets’ See World Economic Forum and Agenda 21.
And yes the Orwellian does the thing it says it is saving from. This happens over and over and over but few see it.
The replacement with Internet is bringing into a realm of systemic control.
NONE of this lockdown thing would have been feasible prior to the Internet being ready. the rehabilitation to the Internet is a further step of displacement and alienation from the land which once we knew our belonging to.
Don’t forget your heart! Discerning and navigating madness is calling for an honesty of being.This is what fear rules out – unless we face fears, keep breathing and learn to feel our way while also recognising logical inconsistencies. yes its insane. Tha fact you can recognise it is some part of you that isn’t insane. grow what you have – or what you appreciate, appreciates.
I’ve done all my non-food shopping online since the mask rule, and keep even my food shopping to the minimum of trips – I’m far more wary of going out now than I ever was in March (not that I was ever particularly worried about infection, more about being shouted at by some busybody for not social distancing enough)
Ironic isn’t it. Masks are supposed to make people feel more comfortable but the likes of Cressida Dick have ensured they won’t. Even if they wear them.
Brick falling maybe?
Hard to say if this is having an effect on footfall or not. Tuesday and Friday seemed to be roughly as normal deliveries wise in our store. Wednesday and thursday were very quiet, although that could just have been because it was the last week of the month before people got paid on the friday. Saturday was completely dead though.
Over 50s to stay home the latest scare story. Well I like millions of others I imagine will be ignoring that completely. Does this maniac wish to destroy the country?
Where are the politicians with enough brain to question the stats? Surely they can not all be so scared of Boris to point out the errors and stupidity?
Where are the big business owners who are having their businesses destroyed?
Why are they not leading the fight against this maniac and his cock of a sidekick?
Agree. Where is big business?
(psssst… I think they might be in on it)
Yes; this lockdown is designed to remove all the entrepreneurial small businesses, leaving only the conformist monopolies.
Absolutely. You can’t lockdown the crony capitalist system without the help of the cronies.
Maybe. Sounds reasonable.
Not altogether – but when you are more insider to the way it works you are also more aware of who and what you are up against if you step out of line.
Boris is a crisis actor.
Like you, I have a two-word answer.
But many, I fear, haven’t developed the brain and language skills required to utter two word phrases.
Of course all the head teachers and senior Consultants will need to keep going to work?
They will have exemptions as key workers, I would imagine.
Of course, those of us on minimum wage or just above will be working. No sick pay and the £90 per week SSP is meant to keep us alive so we can just go back to the front line ASAP.
It doesn’t help if you over dramatise this. The people who may be advised to shelter will be over 50s with serious illness or who are obese. I don’t think anyone is suggesting all over 50 get put under house arrest. This is just conspiracy madness. No organisation with more than 50 people can ever manage a conspiracy, it’s always cockup.
America’s Frontline Doctors shred government coronavirus narrative, exposing it as “massive disinformation campaign”
“The medical deep state is hellbent on withholding the hydroxychloroquine-plus-zinc treatment option from the general public for as long as possible, all to ensure that remdesivir, in which Fauci has a direct financial stake, as well as the slew of vaccines currently in development by Bill Gates and others, are what get presented as the “cures” once they are ready for release.”
https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-07-31-americas-frontline-doctors-shred-government-coronavirus-narrative-disinformation.html
Perspectives on the Pandemic: America’s Frontline Doctors
https://www.brighteon.com/afc9a48a-a551-4b24-8dc5-82a4ecf10a3f
I wonder if anyone in Whitehall has noticed that the Imperial College London model has been discredited and the mortality rate is much lower than first thought. They still seem to be making decisions based on the flawed information from March.
I can only assume they have so brought into the Global Reset and Vaccination agenda their is no way they will reverse now.
Well – you could hardly not have ‘noticed’ it – along with the massive, egregious errors committed by the same team in the past.
But, having been ‘noticed’, the evidence has been totally ignored.
I find it hard to fathom why the government would actually admit the death rate is overstated but make so little effort to correct the figures.
It is like they actively want to promote a constant state of elevated irrational fear – a bit like after 9/11.
No?!!! I’d never have guessed!!!
You mean an insider orchestrated controlled demolition of the global economy and social organisation of humankind on the Earth? They are playing the belief that any of it makes sense or that those inside the narrative have any intention of engaging in dialogue. And so trying to make sense of it and thinking some sort of governance for the nation or the people is still operating delays the simple recognition of abandonment from above and being ‘sold to the Corporate sector or to locked out of social inclusion (life support). However another way or recognising our lives is to not give power to narrative definitions – but to listen in the heart of honesty and find who you are from the life itself – rather than the conflicted futility of a world of lies seeking to become true by coercion and deceit. Lies run in darkness and in terms of free awareness being light, conflict binds or locks up attention to effectively mask out a primary curiosity. Though you are never truly absent and could wonder instead of being driven by constantly shifting narratives that as you discern, elevate undertainty, confusion and fear at expense of clear appreciation of the… Read more »
It’s not just discredited. In any engineering profession if you let this model get out in the real world you’d end up in jail. But it seems that when applied to people’s health you can get away with blue murder
Two-tiered medicine: Why is hydroxychloroquine being censored and politicized?
https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-07-31-why-is-hydroxychloroquine-being-censored.html
HCQ is on the approved treatment protocol for all but ventilated patients in Russia (pp 10–11 cross ref. 149–150) perhaps why the CRF is a factor of 10 or there abouts smaller? :- https://static-0.rosminzdrav.ru/system/attachments/attaches/000/050/584/original/03062020_%D0%9CR_COVID-19_v7.pdf
The way UK is going Johnson will be a bigger tyrant than Putin soon.
One of them is actually capable of coherent thought. regardless what you think of him. Putin is not merely a puppet. But he is in with the medical mafia or unwilling to openly defy them. I know nothing of belarus – but that its leader proclaimed covid19 a western psychosis. I find it interesting that amidst all the drama -there is always someone given the part of disclosure – but generally one that is not accorded any validity whatsoever. For we think if we align with truth we hear from another that we endorse and support whatever else they are and say – no?
Because if a treatment exists then in the USA it means you cannot ‘rush out’ and mandate a emergency vaccine…
“The ONS infection survey data released on July 31st showed an increase in the number of people testing positive over the past two weeks of just five.”
This is the level of scientific/statistical intelligence on display not only from government but also scientifically illiterate ‘scientists’.
Scottie!!!!!
What a joke !
So a resident of Cornwall finds living there ‘horrifying’ now ?,perhaps they should go and live in Yemen or Syria for a few months and maybe Wadebridge won’t seem quite so bad.
I didn’t think I could think much less of most of the population of this country but nearly everyday one them proves me wrong.
Trust me, they don’t, it’s MSM spin. Most tourism businesses here are small and haven’t qualified for c19 support – the visitors are extremely welcome.
You’re correct – those were just comments picked up from FB by a lazy reporter.
Most of the small shops in my little town qualified for the £10k council grant for which they were very grateful I’m sure because some of them are open only part time even now. But it seems that latent xenophobia in Cornwall has surfaced.
I live in Cornwall and it’s great when not having to follow the government stupidity. Beaches are busy but no busier than Bournemouth and that had no impact.
Cornish people are as brain washed as the rest of the country no worse just today’s news….blame Boris and the useless politicians not the county.
I live in Bournemouth. By the beach. Apart from the extra cars I don’t mind people coming down. Feels normal.
Good for you – after all, you’re not forced to live by the sea.
I would have expected any beaches to be busy on a hot weekend. Will probably be much quieter tomorrow.
The silly sod doesn’t seem to have grasped that the local economy is largely dependent on people doing exactly what he/she dislikes.
Assuming this resident isn’t a plant, I do hope they don’t need to find work outside Cornwall. “Sorry, all our jobs are for locals. Perhaps you’d best return home to Cornwall.” Where does the nonsense end???
Who is this resident?
It’s Tubbs. She’s relocated to Cornwall from Royston Vasey.
It’s a local shop for local local erm people
Well I live just inside the boarder in Devon and pop into south-eastern Cornwall to the beach regularly. It’s been pretty normal for at least two months now, except perhaps a bit busier than usual for the time of year.
Usual MSM garbage – easy to spot: just look out for the emotive adjectives, along with a lack of any data or actual evidence.
swprs.org
August update now out.For those that haven’t seen this site, it provides a range of facts,graphs and information on corona related issues at a national and international level. Updated monthly
My answer to Boris for an over 50s lockdown – fuck you and the horse you rode in on.
I am now in open rebellion.
No apologies for the profanity.
Yup – the only positive would be that that includes Bozo!
He and all the others have special immunity, didn’t you know? 🙂
Not from a piece of hemp they don’t.
Fair play.
Polyester just does not have the same friction.
Highly likely to be on hydroxychloroquine, as it works accordimng to well over 200 US doctors and doctors around the world. Just don’t tell the plebs or they’ll all want it
Plus he’s already had Covid anyway. As have enough other people to stop it spreading.
Or he went on holiday to Barbados…When a prime minister is taken gravely ill there is a protocol whereby they end up in a totally secured floor of St Thomas’s Hospital and no member of the public or any tv crews have sight of them. Can anybody prove he had it? A nice convenient publicity stunt for his new world order masters…
I think we should make and publicise a list of all MPs over 50, so that if they lock us down, we can point out how many are not isolating. We can point out to doubters than the chances of politicians having some kind of super-immunity to the virus is impossible – it will be another ‘Cummings – Barnard Castle’ moment…
He would exempt himself as a key worker.
Like Jezza did when they wanted the over 70s to stay at home. Politicians exempt.
Worker????
Lol
Even my mum just said “Well screw that for a game of soldiers”
It’s the rule that could turn the Karens!!
I think this is just another way of putting us off the scent. Whilst we are getting outraged that us over 50s are to be locked up other things are happening and we are ignoring or missing it.
You are probably right, but the question is what are they trying to distract us from seeing?
That is a very pertinent question and deserves more than a cursory consideration. You could also include your own thought habits. What is going on here that I am not seeing? And allowing a space of attentiveness and receptivity to notice what a distracted attention discards or doesnt even see.
It’s divide and conquer. In the DM, the comments section is full of young people saying the old should be locked away, and older people saying the young should be locked away since they’re troublemakers not keeping to the rules.
Seemed like the obvious tactic considering the Manchester lockdown right before Eid. Everyone went mad with some making nasty comments about “dirty Muslims” and others calling them racist. Divide and conquer, tried and tested.
First post, long-time lurker. Also left-wing refugee from the Guardian where I kept getting jumped on for expressing disbelief about the benefits of lockdown. Now very few Guardian articles allow comments, so I guess I did my job.
Welcome, and a very good point!
Just try it. Just.
Agreed; I dare you. I DOUBLE-DARE you!
I have no intention of obeying it even if they bring it in.
I second this. I’m 60 but fitter than many people half my age, have no existing health conditions and don’t take any medication. I’ve worked in a front line service since lockdown and have no intention of being forced to stay at home by Bojo and his team of health dictators.. I don’t think I’d seek treatment if I did develop any health condition that put me at risk. I’d rather die in a ditch.
My husband (71) got the Extremely Vulnerable letter because he has chronic leukemia. He took no notice as he is otherwise fit and well (as am I) and we’ve carried on as normally as possible throughout the lockdown and the ‘Lockdown Lite’. We travelled on buses before the muzzle rule came in and we shop twice a week. Now we avoid public transport and yomp round the place with rucksacks or on our bikes to do our shopping and we regularly go hill-walking. From this you can deduce we are hardly delicate old plants!
If they bring this crap in we’ll carry on the same. What are they going to do, lock us all up? Despite killing so many oldies off, I think we’re still in the majority (somebody please correct me if this is wrong!)
We have a friend who we visit regularly. He’s 92 yrs old. He does his shopping every morning at 07.30 hrs, as he has done for the last 20 years, and doesn’t give a s***. He invites us in (and has done so for the entire lockdown period).
Why would he care? He hasn’t caught anything, he says he’s had a great life and would rather go down than live under the successors to the Gestapo. Good for him.
Record his thoughts and send it to PM Johnson.
You sound like fantastic role models. Good on you both and may you have many more wonderful years.
Thank you – we’ll try!
It wasn’t a horse, it was a donkey.