Laurence Fox Has Raised £5 Million From Tory Donors
According to a piece in the Mail yesterday, Laurence Fox hasn’t raised £1 million to support his new political party, as reported in the Sunday Telegraph. He’s raised £5 million!
Laurence Fox is launching a new political party to fight the culture wars named Reclaim, and he has already raised more than £5million.
The actor, 42, has received substantial sums from former Tory donors and hopes to stand dozens of candidates across the UK.
The Lewis star says he wants to provide a movement for people who are “tired of being told that we represent the very thing we have, in history, stood together against”.
It comes as Nigel Farage has also threatened to launch an anti-lockdown party after criticising Boris Johnson’s draconian measures to curb the rise in coronavirus cases.
For anyone interested in joining Reclaim, there’s an expression of interest form here.
Stop Press: Patrick O’Flynn, a former UKIP MEP, has some cautionary words for Laurence in the Telegraph. His advice: sign up Nigel ASAP.
National Union of Students Ignores Imprisonment of Students, Launches Campaign to “Decolonise Education”
You couldn’t make it up. At the very moment that tens of thousands of students across the United Kingdom are being imprisoned in their halls of residence and threatened with expulsion if they show the slightest sign of resistance – the worst treatment of students by university authorities since the Second World War – the National Union of Students has launched a campaign to “decolonise education”. You can read all about it on the NUS website:
At the roots of these movements are a deep hunger and determination to rebuild how things are done, and remove all the things that have led to racism, colonialism and imperialism. And in their place, the aim and vision of a world that is accountable for this violence and works towards restorative justice.
This would be done by working together towards cultural, psychological and economic freedom. Decolonisation as theory and practice is used to imagine this and create what this change would look like.
Decolonisation in practice is about bringing to light and taking apart colonialist power in all its forms. For this, we also need to understand that society as we know it is built upon this power.
This includes all the things that perpetuate and reproduce the legacy of colonialism in areas like education, housing, finance, policing, healthcare and many more.
For example, if we look at education, it is about paying attention to how our education system, our schools, colleges and universities, and ways of learning are built on colonial histories. They all put whiteness at the centre and as a neutral perspective to learn about our world.
Decolonising means providing students, staff and their local communities with the tools and language to critically identify the ways our schools, colleges and universities are built using the same colonial hierarchies. It also means empowering them to confront, challenge and reject the status quo. They would then be able to reimagine how things can be done differently and create alternatives that would benefit us all.
Currently, we do not trust schools, colleges and universities senior leadership teams in their effort to decolonise their institution. And this makes sense: they benefit from it as individuals and don’t want to lose the power they gained from it. This is why we are supporting the creation of alternative learning spaces, such as the Free Black University, who are outside of the current model.
If I was a student, I think I’d want my trade union to focus on more pressing matters.
The Sun has a harrowing report of the restrictions that students at Manchester Metropolitan University are facing. Signs in the windows read “Help us!” and another renamed the institution “HMP MMU”. Students were initially ordered by the University to take down these signs, but the authorities then sheepishly acknowledged that they couldn’t actually prevent students from communicating with the outside world.
Stop Press: A reader has pointed out that virtually no one under 25 has died from Covid in Scotland.
In Scotland for those aged under 25 there has been zero deaths – that is not just those with co-morbidities, that is everyone. No man under 45 has died since June 3rd, there have been 11 in total. The last woman under 45 died on May 2nd, there have been six in total.
Mad SAGE Scientist Warns of Third Wave
Professor Mark Woolhouse, a member of SAGE , has warned that Londoners could be a facing a “third wave”! The Evening Standard has more.
London is in a “difficult place” and facing a ban on mixing households, a Labour MP has warned, amid warnings that any lockdown will only delay a “possible” third wave.
David Lammy, MP for Tottenham, said local lockdown measures, such as preventing residents from visiting other people’s homes, were “likely” to hit the capital. It came as Professor Mark Woolhouse, a member of the SAGE scientific advisory group, warned that a third coronavirus wave of COVID-19 is “entirely possible”.
This is like a game of bedwetters’ top trumps. How long before Professor John Edmunds appears on the Today programme to warn of a “fourth wave”?
Riot Police Throw Woman in Her Fifties to Ground at Anti-Lockdown Protest
The footage of the police “dispersing” yesterday’s ant-lockdown protest in Trafalgar Square is pretty shocking. Kathy Gyngell has written an eye-witness account of what happened in the Conservative Woman.
As I reached the south-west corner of the Square I saw police by their motorbikes were donning helmets.
Heading on towards Pall Mall, I saw that grim faced masked police in vans were beginning to pull out from a side street parking. In my innocence I thought this over-manned convoy was off back to base because with no trouble and relatively few people they were just not needed.
How mistaken I turned out to be. It was not till I got home that I found to my horror from the news that far from going back to base this must have been the start of their mobilising against the crowd. Which indeed they did. Officers determined to disperse the crowd, penned it in. Protesters and police were hurt.
Why this clearly premeditated action? Who authorised it and on what grounds?
Who authorised them to pen the crowd in? There was no need – there was no overspill into surrounding streets. And why did the police not regard this crowd with the same tolerance they did with the recent BLM protests?
It has shocked me to the core. And now I see that Sky News instead of focusing on unjustifiable and provocative police action has chosen to relay selective vox pops of ‘conspiracy theorists’. So predictable!
I could have told Sky News that you don’t have to be a conspiracy theorist to question the legitimacy or the rationality of the current Emergency powers – or to want to publicly protest against them.
Depressingly nearly all the papers today reporting the ‘clashes’ and the violence that occurred seem to have taken the pro-government line that the police enforcement of the government’s covid rules was justified, that they had a right to silence public dissent against them. They did not report that the police storming of the crowd after two and half hours of standing by was unprovoked or that there was every indication that their action was premeditated and planned. What I had witnessed was them moving into action when the rally was entirely peaceful and causing no disruption.
As a friend who was there to the bitter end reported back to me: ‘It was an amazing day but so tarnished by the police at the end. I feel deeply shocked by the way they stormed in. It was totally unnecessary and quite worrying in our democracy that this is how a peaceful demonstration is treated. It’s made the whole situation all the more worrying, I feel. It did feel amazing however to be surrounded by people not willing to accept this so-called New Normal.’
Worth reading in full.
If the police continue to behave in this heavy-handed and arbitrary manner, it will undermine the rule of law and destroy policing by consent.
Stop Press: If anyone knows the well-dressed, middle-aged victim of this police brutality, please tell her to get in touch. Would love to tell her story.
Postcard From Stockholm
A reader has just returned from a short break in Stockholm. Highly recommended.
A short break outside of this sceptered isle in 2020 is not easy. Every week the options for those who have an employment contract with limited annual leave decreases; two weeks quarantine is not an option. When Sweden was removed by Schapps from the “list”, the choice of Stockholm was made.
What would it be like? Would there be piles of dead bodies in the streets waiting to be removed?
Happily I can confirm all the media generated negative press is very far from the truth. The moment you touch down in Stockholm you feel free. That sense of fear and hysteria is lifted and carried away.
It is truly liberating. Outside of the airport in Stockholm I can confirm that the vast majority get on with their lives without having to wear masks in shops or on the public transport. There is hand sanitiser at various locations and social distancing is observed but the restaurants and bars appeared pretty normal and they even accept cash in the shops.
Once in a while you see a masked-up person but they are invariably foreign tourists. I never had to give my details for any track and trace; maybe there is a system but it wasn’t very evident.
I found Stockholm to be much more interesting than I imagined and the waterfront is stunning. The centre is free from rubbish and graffiti – unlike Paris and Berlin. Highlights are the Royal Palace which was so empty you could sit on the throne if you wanted and of course the Vasa Museum, showing the 17th Century ship in all its glory.
Maybe this week Sweden will be back on the naughty step but dear reader don’t be put off because the absence of queues and crowding is a blessing. Final tip: make sure you book to return on Friday evening rather than Saturday for obvious reasons.
NHS Track and Trace Orders Nokia Owners to Download COVID-19 App
In a cock-up that will surprise absolutely no one, NHS Test and Trace is sending texts to ancient Nokia phones telling their owners to to download the COVID-19 app. Er, what? A reader has been in touch to tell me her 88 year-old mother got this message yesterday and was left feeling somewhat confused. She sent me a photo of her mum’s phone.
Round-Up
- “Coronavirus rule changes: What you can and can’t do in England from tomorrow” – A summary in the Mirror of the new rules that kicked in today. Most alarming is that anyone contacted by NHS Test and Trace is now legally obliged to self-isolate for 10 days and if you break the rules can be fined up to £10,000 – with the police carrying out spot checks to make sure you’re complying, according to the Mail. New regulations here
- “Correcting Britain’s Vitamin D deficiency could save thousands of lives” – Matt Ridley and David Davis point out that a groundbreaking new study shows regular does of Vitamin D can cut the mortality rate from COVID-19 by 50%
- “What kind of a country have we become when arrogant bullying is seen as the proper function of Ministers?” – Lord Sumption give Boris both barrels in the Mail on Sunday
- “Don’t fine students for partying – pay their fees instead” – Some common sense from the always dependable Prof Carl Heneghan
- “Schools in England told not to use anti-capitalist material in teaching” – The DfE has issued guidance advising schools not to use teaching resources from organisations that have expressed a desire to end capitalism, e.g. BLM. The Guardian has gone full mental jacket
- “BLM Co-Founder’s Ties to Pro-Communist China Group: Mike Gonzalez” – Interesting lecture by Mike Gonzalez, Senior Fellow of the Heritage Foundation, on the links between BLM and the Chinese Communist Party
- “Critical race theorists are ‘destroying the US’ from the inside” – Interview with Christopher Rufo for The Outsiders on Sky News Australia
- “Where is the voice of the left as ‘libertarians’ annex the COVID-19 debate?” – Kenan Malik in the Observer asks where the left-wing defenders of our civil liberties are in the lockdown debate. I agree with him, although he doesn’t appear to realise that judging from his opening paragraph
- “Warning of 50,000 Covid cases a day likely to be wrong, Oxford professor says” – In case you missed it, Allison Pearson and Liam Halligan interview Prof Sunetra Gupta for their Planet Normal podcast
- “Lowdown on the Lockdown” – A Canadian sceptic called Rod Fraser describes his small acts of rebellion during Ontario’s shutdown
- “Florida Re-opens” – Ron DeSantis for President. The Mail reports that bars and restaurants in Florida are now at full capacity
- “Some Travellers Miss Flying So Much, They’re Taking Planes to Nowhere” – Travellers have taken to getting in a place that takes off, flies around for a bit, then returns them to where they started
- “Pub curfews cause social distancing CHAOS as 1,000s spill on to streets at same time when bars shut at 10pm” – Who could have possible predicted that?
- “Coronavirus infections NOT rising as fast as ‘nightmare projection’ from Government’s chief scientists, data reveals” – The Sun crunches the numbers and finds that Whitty and Vallance’s predictions are not coming true. If we had started to follow the scientist’s feared trend, the country would have reached closer to 8-9,000 daily cases by now. But on Saturday only 6,024 new infections were reported
- “Beware of the stool pigeons” – Good piece by Luke Perry in Bournbrook magazine
- “Government faces ‘certain’ defeat on Coronavirus Act, says Steve Baker” – Shame. Couldn’t happen to a nicer Government
- “We must learn to live with coronavirus – just like Samuel Pepys lived with the Great Plague” – Sociology Prof and Sage member Robert Dingwall in the Mail
- “Writers and actors including Ian McEwan and Griff Rhys Jones rally around JK Rowling amid onslaught of social media abuse and deaths threats over ‘transphobia’ row” – Good to see JKR getting some much deserved solidarity
Theme Tunes Suggested by Readers
Just two today: “Rebel Rebel” by David Bowie and “Your Application’s Failed” by Roxy Music.
Love in the Time of Covid
We have created some Lockdown Sceptics Forums, including a dating forum called “Love in a Covid Climate” that has attracted a bit of attention. We have a team of moderators in place to remove spam and deal with the trolls, but sometimes it takes a little while so please bear with us. You have to register to use the Forums, but that should just be a one-time thing. Any problems, email the Lockdown Sceptics webmaster Ian Rons here.
Woke Gobbledegook
We’ve decided to create a permanent slot down here for woke gobbledegook. Today it’s the turn of the British Library which, according to chief librarian Liz Jolly, is absolutely neck deep in racism. The Telegraph has more.
The British Library’s chief librarian has claimed “racism is a creation of white people” and backed calls for major cultural change at the institution, the Telegraph can reveal.
Liz Jolly manages the vast collection of literary treasures held by the institution, and is supporting changes to displays and collections in the wake of Black Lives Matter protests. Reforms are being proposed by a “Decolonising Working Group”, which claims the British Library’s London building is an imperialism symbol because it resembles a battleship.
Staff being supported to decolonise the UK’s national library have also suggested that traditional puppet Mr Punch reflects “colonial violence”
The Telegraph has exclusively obtained documents revealing these claims, and a letter endorsed hundreds of employees which declared a racial “state of emergency” at the institution.
In response to this emergency, an internal report called for the removal of statues of the library’s founding fathers, replacing “Eurocentric” maps, and reviewing collections of western classical music which staff branded part of the “outdated notion” of Western Civilization.
The institution recently faced calls for defunding from MPs after the Telegraph revealed employees had urged colleagues to donate to Black Lives Matter and back the work of Labour MP Dianne Abbott.
The Telegraph can now reveal that Chief Librarian Ms Jolly has urged white staff to support the institution’s plans to purge the library of perceived racism.
In a video clip obtained by the Telegraph she tells colleagues: “I think, as I have said before, that we need to make sure some white colleagues are involved, because racism is a creation of white people.”
Ms Jolly receives between £120,000 and £125,000 per year for her work as Chief Librarian, a role she has held since 2018.
She has given her support to a broad “Anti-Racism Project” proposed in the wake of Black Lives Matter protests, telling colleagues “particularly pressing” work was ongoing to review “artworks in the St Pancras building”.
Ms Jolly assured staff that the project is “about developing and delivering major cultural change”, and part of this would be ensuring the repository of literary treasures will “reflect the diversity of Britain today”.
This followed on from a letter declaring a “state of emergency” at the library, signed by 200 employees, demanding BAME staff should review any job cuts which might affect employees with “protected characteristics” to ensure continued diversity at the library, better treatment of these workers, and ensuring the BAME Network has a say in who is employed as Head of Collections.
To tackle the legacy of “colonial violence” at the library, the letter also demands a statue of founder Sir Hans Sloane be removed.
This recommended removal is echoed in a report by the Decolonising Working Group, which claims that the “physical space” of the British Library contains “manifestations of the institution’s racism” by glorifying the British Empire.
Staff claim in the report that: “This glorification is hard to miss in the structure of the building itself, designed as it is in the form of a battleship, by far the greatest symbol of British imperialism.”
The building was designed by architect and former naval officer Sir Colin Wilson, who added maritime references such as portholes to the building.
In the report aimed at reforming the British Library “as a space”, visual aspects including a portrait of Mr Punch which hangs in the institution is critiqued.
The character, popular at seaside shows is: “A theatrical figure from the heyday of Victorian imperialism who ‘entertained’ through an abuse of women and children that mirrored colonial Violence.”
Given that the British Library is guilty of promoting racism and glorifying colonial violence, shouldn’t it stop receiving money from the Department for Digital, Culture, Media and Sport? Oliver Dowden, time to wield the axe.
Stop Press: Free Speech Union Advisory Council member Zoe Strempel is not a fan of diversity training. Her latest Telegraph column on the subject is well worth a read.
“Mask Exempt” Lanyards
We’ve created a one-stop shop down here for people who want to buy (or make) a “Mask Exempt” lanyard/card. You can print out and laminate a fairly standard one for free here and it has the advantage of not explicitly claiming you have a disability. But if you have no qualms about that (or you are disabled), you can buy a lanyard from Amazon saying you do have a disability/medical exemption here (takes a while to arrive). The Government has instructions on how to download an official “Mask Exempt” notice to put on your phone here. You can get a “Hidden Disability” tag from ebay here and an “exempt” card with lanyard for just £1.49 from Etsy here. And, finally, if you feel obliged to wear a mask but want to signal your disapproval of having to do so, you can get a “sexy world” mask with the Swedish flag on it here.
Don’t forget to sign the petition on the UK Government’s petitions website calling for an end to mandatory face nappies in shops here.
Here’s a round-up of the scientific evidence on the effectiveness of mask (threadbare at best).
And here’s a round-up from the good people at Law or Fiction on what constitutes a “reasonable excuse” for not wearing a mask.
Stop Press: A reader tells me about his day out on the Dorset coast over the weekend. He was shocked to see so many people wearing face nappies.
Yesterday my wife and I enjoyed a truly wonderful day out, in the sea air of the Dorset coast. We headed for Lulworth Cove, parked the car, and after coffee walked the the Coast Path until our knees told us to turn back and head for a crab sandwich lunch. The place was busy but not impossibly so, and in any event neither of us were seeking absolute solitude.
But oh dear me, the face nappies! Even by the clear blue sea, with God’s own fresh northerly breeze, they were everywhere. Stout parties of all ages, whose breathing one supposes would be laboured at the best of times, were determined to make life even more difficult for themselves. And plenty of fit youngsters in the same face gear – when they weren’t smoking. It was a real pleasure to chat to couples of our vintage whose attitudes matched our own. I was inclined to shout “take off your silly nappies and enjoy the air, you dummies”, but it will require far more than my exhortations to get this brainwashed nation to snap out of its daydream.
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Men of Freedom, don’t ye cave in
To the whims of cruel and craven
Tyrants who like Michael’s raven
Prophesy our doom.
On a bright and blithe spring morning,
Johnson and his minions stormed in
With their dread and dire warning,
“Albion shan’t be free!”
Why did we deserve this?
How can we preserve this?
Freedom spurned, lives overturned!
What evil mind has served this?
We’ve seen education shattered,
Conflict rage ’twixt friends who mattered,
Protest gets us fined and battered,
Fear reigns supreme!
Men of Freedom, fret no longer,
Wit and virtue makes us stronger;
Tell the ardent battle-monger,
“Albion shan’t be slaves!”
Gilded lies no more shall fool us,
Experts who are worse than useless,
Tyranny no more shall rule us;
Show them to their graves!
Now is the awak’ning,
Nelson’s feet are shaking;
Mild and old, and young and bold,
A better world are making.
Join Trafalgar’s righteous chorus,
Men and women fighting for us,
Truth and wisdom to reign o’er us,
Liberty supreme!
(I win, by the way)
Just checked in – A worthy winner – back to sleep
MADNESS! We’ve Lost Our Minds! Birmingham – they are posting testing kits through you letterbox
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1r6j8Hl0hs
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Dr Heiko Schöning speaks on his release from Wandsworth Police Station, 27 Sept 2020
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1d-hogsKwE
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What kind of a country have we become when arrogant bullying is seen as the proper function of Ministers? Ex-Supreme Court judge LORD SUMPTION denounces No10’s rule of muddle and authoritarianism
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-8776267/Ex-Supreme-Court-judge-LORD-SUMPTION-denounces-No10s-rule-muddle-authoritarianism.html
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PETER HITCHENS: Boris’ great idea? Burn down the house TWICE to get rid of a wasps’ nest, then stand in the ruins and blame everyone but himself for this futile catastrophe
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-8776033/PETER-HITCHENS-Boris-great-idea-Burn-house-TWICE-rid-wasps-nest.html
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8776943/Boris-Johnson-abandoned-plans-second-national-lockdown-fears-Rishi-Sunak-QUIT.html
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Anti lockdown protests covered on Itlaian News but not the Telegraph
Scontri a Londra tra polizia e manifestanti anti-lockdown – See more at:
https://www.rainews.it/dl/rainews/media/Londra-scontri-alla-marcia-anti-lockdown-c64a94c6-f354-4d40-b0db-9a08d63d4e91.html#foto-1
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzXPxUaGY0g
German Doctor Arrested In London For Telling The Truth
Since the German doctor release video has been censored and the Anna Breese video of him is cut before he starts speaking about the REASON for the governments’ reactions to the virus, it is obvious which part of his message caused his arrest. See the full interview on Anna Breese channel (if it hasn’t been pulled).
It’s still there as at this morning – interview starts at 7’10” – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRJt4Cw4lC8&t=1s
The Dr Heiko Schoning video has been taken down (censored) by youtube.
I understand from other’s comments here that the police interventions (both at Trafalgar Square and Hyde Park) seemed to be targeted at stopping him speaking?
Clearly the government does not want you to know what he is saying; and why over a million protesters turned up to the Berlin protests.
So here are his views – please spread the word (this is the information the government is intent on suppressing – ask yourself why):
https://acu2020.org/english-versions/
Scroll down to:
Transcript-The-Big-Bluff- (1) .pdf
Here is an extract: HS: ‘…When we look at what moves the world, we see it: Money. The money and the monetary system. 2008 – Most people will have bad memories of that. What happened? The monetary system had collapsed. We had a financial crash and it obviously was not planned that way, but it happened … it collapsed and we saw who was actually to blame – the banks. And the banks have a few private owners. What happened then? The banks were saved. In other words, the rich [individuals] who own these banks were just bailed out with taxpayers’ money. In short – privatize profits, socialize losses. That’s exactly how it went. We already had this crash, so to speak. What was the solution of the powerful and the government of the world? They said: We’re almost the culprits here now. We’ll try to buy some more time and put even more money into the system. The money supply was multiplied since 2008. So the whole thing was made even more dangerous, so to speak; and everyone said originally – Schäuble, Dragi said we were only buying ourselves time. And we knew that this crash had to actually… Read more »
I heard right in the beginning of the plandemic that this was all about thebanks but I hadn’t seen it spelled out like this. Thanks.
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/britain/the-global-usurpation-of-power-underway/
Thanks for this – I’ve just downloaded it. MW
The events from Saturday could work in our favour. If the police have attacked two demonstrations in Trafalgar Square and arrested the German doctor. This raises the question if the protesters and those who speak at protests are just loonies talking nonsense why does the government need to suppress protests.
As long as the MSM do not report it it is not an issue. The powers that be are confident that as long as they control the narrative the little bits of protest are irritating but no more than that. The British people are extraordinarily docile and easy to control. Our fear of being seen to be unconventional is very deep. Until hundreds of thousands are out in the streets this will not stop. And even if they are they will push back very hard. This is not a game.
An interesting addition to this argument has been supplied by UK column today (28 mins in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1L4E0RREuI&feature=youtu.be) with the theory that we are nearing the end of economic growth; the driver of capitalist globalism – and that governments have, up to now, controlled their peoples by the promise of economic growth (better times ahead). So when growth stops there will be much disorder; thus governments, knowing this, are looking for a new tools to control the people, such as a pandemic.
Those two links are the same.
And Toby still doesn’t see a conspiracy.
Though maybe “conspiracy” is the wrong word, like the dead hand of the KGB or Stasi controlling people’s lives weren’t a conspiracy, they were a feature.
Toby is suffering from normalcy bias. I don’t think he’s going to snap out of it until it’s too late.
Until recently I’ve always thought it was a 50/50 between Govt incompetence and a Controlled Demolition. I’m now 25/75 as rational thought and debate are practically ZERO regardless of facts and data.
Not conspiracy so much as a common point of view, or a common goal, e.g. global socialism, where every socialist activist will play their small part.
They’re not being directed by someone, but have a common view of the world, e.g. Liz Jolly of the British Library and Susan Michie of SAGE group. They’re not colluding together, but their goal is the same, i.e. a socialist/communist society.
I think the left wing socialist/ Marxist idealists are being used. They are not in control of this. The irony is that the entire left wing agenda has been high jacked by people who are as left wing as Ghengis Khan.
its both
Surely Gates funding the UK government and working hand in hand with DFID and DHSC is a conspiracy in that they are conspiring together with Ferguson who came out with a fake projection to lock us down
Also we see the plan ehre
https://intelligence.weforum.org/topics/a1G0X000006O6EHUA0?tab=publications
This not a conspiracy . It is a plan and should be treated as such.
https://intelligence.weforum.org/topics/a1G0X000006O6EHUA0?tab=publications
THANKS!
Is this the same video?
https://youtu.be/sglQmD3BMSc
Great find, leggy. It seems to be back up. Well worth a watch, as Dr Shoning gets to explain his views, and publicise a book, and the next Berlin protest on 10th October.
( This was the previous link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1d-hogsKwE )
Also Anna Brees video now back – see comment above.
Perhaps Youtube decided that its censorship was counter-productive, giving the good Doctor publicity because of the censorship?
Perhaps they read these site comments?
Birmingham letterbox kits. Massive desperation on display. I fancy that may be counter productive in a good way. How many will be returned?
The wastage of all this is huge. As biker rightly said money is energy. Each pound has labour attached to achieve that pound. In those absolute terms any ‘drizzle’ spoken about green recovery from all this is a pukefest of lies. One Trillion pounds is an enourmous amount of wasted energy.
I love your username!
https://hubpages.com/politics/Pfizer-Chief-Science-Officer-Second-Wave-Based-on-Fake-Data-of-False-Positives-for-New-Cases-Pandemic-is-Over
Chief Science Officer for Pfizer Says “Second Wave” Faked on False-Positive COVID Tests, “Pandemic is Over”
Even more significantly, even if all positives were to be correct, Dr. Yeadon said that given the “shape” of all important indicators in a worldwide pandemic, such as hospitalizations, ICU utilization, and deaths, “the pandemic is fundamentally over.”
Yeadon said in the interview:
Anti lockdown protests covered on Itlaian News but not the Telegraph
Scontri a Londra tra polizia e manifestanti anti-lockdown – See more at:
https://www.rainews.it/dl/rainews/media/Londra-scontri-alla-marcia-anti-lockdown-c64a94c6-f354-4d40-b0db-9a08d63d4e91.html#foto-1
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8776943/Boris-Johnson-abandoned-plans-second-national-lockdown-fears-Rishi-Sunak-QUIT.htm
PETER HITCHENS: Boris’ great idea? Burn down the house TWICE to get rid of a wasps’ nest, then stand in the ruins and blame everyone but himself for this futile catastrophe
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-8776033/PETER-HITCHENS-Boris-great-idea-Burn-house-TWICE-rid-wasps-nest.htm
What kind of a country have we become when arrogant bullying is seen as the proper function of Ministers? Ex-Supreme Court judge LORD SUMPTION denounces No10’s rule of muddle and authoritarianism
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-8776267/Ex-Supreme-Court-judge-LORD-SUMPTION-denounces-No10s-rule-muddle-authoritarianism.html
whatch newsnight from MOnday and see a cnut o a prof from Sage tell Sumption we cant have democracy during ther plandemic as we cant overrule the scienctists bstards . I have no words
MADNESS! We’ve Lost Our Minds! Birmingham – they are posting testing kits through you letterbox
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1r6j8Hl0hs
Did Dominic Raab Just Admit 93% of Tests are Inaccurate? | Carl Vernon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4G7W_cf0JA
“NHS staff carry out Coronavirus tests at a testing facility in Bracebridge Heath, Lincoln ”
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/09/27/neighbours-urged-call-police-covid-self-isolation-cheats1/#comment
She’s wearing a cheap plastic visa and paper mask made that costs nothing from Amazon and are made in cheap Asian sweatshops. They won’t stop her passing or receiving the virus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKkzzKCr_yg
Sterile face mask production in India
Ross Clark -wrote this in February and he was right then https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/Coronavirus-and-the-cycle-of-panic Coronavirus and the cycle of panic It is the latest phenomenon to fulfil our weird and growing appetite for doom From magazine issue: 29 February 2020 Coronavirus and the cycle of panic If you have just cancelled your trip to Venice and ordered your £19.99 surgical face mask from Amazon, how about this for a terrifying vision: by the time we get to April, 50,000 Britons will have succumbed to a combination of infectious disease and adverse weather. Frightened? If you are, don’t worry: you survived. It was two years ago. In 2017-18 the Office for National Statistics recorded 50,100 ‘excess winter deaths’. The explanation, according to the ONS, was probably ‘the predominant strain of flu, the effectiveness of the influenza vaccine, and below average winter temperatures’. Coronavirus (Covid-19) is a pretty virulent virus all right, but not in the way you might imagine. It is less our respiratory tracts it has infected than our inner sense of angst. By last Monday there were 79,331 confirmed cases worldwide, all but 2,069 of which were in China. There have been 2,595 deaths in China and 23 elsewhere in the… Read more »
Sir Patrick Vaccine
I love your name 🙂
Cheeky Sais pinching a Welsh tune!
But fine lyrics.
Morning!
Very nice.
Can we read this out on the Podcast? Excellent work!
You must sing it. Preferably with a cast of masked Zulus threatening you in the background.
Haha! I’ll try.
I’m flattered you’ve asked. Please do feel free. As Matt says, better yet if you can find some chorally-minded Welsh soldiers to belt it out.
Thanks very much! I’ll try to find some…!
Not more than 6 mind.
Brilliant!
What’s the tune?
Men of Harlech
Second I guess.
You were second but looks more like 12th!
I’m bloody incensed, folk. Had to write to my MP again. Dear My MP Today, I read the following from leaked documents regarding the current government’s Operation Moonshot programme. Here’s the link to the BMJ article https://www.bmj.com/content/370/bmj.m3558 Are there any plans to get the public on board? The documents show that there have been discussions over how to incentivise people to be tested. They point to enforcing testing “via a sanction-based model” or through “offering individuals opportunities/access from being tested,” such as being able to attend events. What is a digital passport? Testing for access to certain spaces features heavily in the documents, with reference to “immunity/virus free passports,” likely to be available through an app. The plans say that testing could be used to “give people assurance that, at least for a limited time, they are unlikely to have the virus and are at low risk of transmitting it to others.”They say, “A negative test result (or potentially a positive antibody result) may inform not just whether you could attend an in-patient appointment, but if you go to work that day, access a venue, get on a flight or visit an elderly relative.” The documents also point to a “significant… Read more »
another incentive is the ONS is offering £450 to people to get repeat tests!
Particalarly attractive to those with no jobs and sudents!
I think those are home tests, so take the money then stick the swabs in pots of sterilised water to test it. Let them see the proportion of positive tests reducing.
My issue would not be the cost or reliability but the fact that it has no place in a free society. There are umpteen other diseases and viruses that are far more of a risk to health, TB and HIV for starters, and no such restrictions have rightly ever been imposed on the freedom of an individual to interact in society, even down to your right to access healthcare. This is clear coercion and cannot be accepted, end of. I did read that astrazenica were also involved in manufacturing tests, someone or people are making a shed load of money from this and I am not referring just to the companies.
A worker in an upmarket retail jewellery shop tells me they have never been busier, probably buying it for the gold.
Gold may well be the new cash.
I saw this – is it real?
Yup, follow the link. It’s obviously in theoretical stage and I don’t think it is in any way workable with the government’s current lack of technology and ability however, that’s not the point, it it?
Oh dear.
Not workable for now, perhaps. But it will be if they plug away at it as they intend to.
Well, I’ve written elsewhere about the effects of false positives on mass testing. It is proposed to develop a new technology, one which does not currently exist, and build enough of it to test 10 million people a day.
That’s 50 times the current testing rate. Even with the technology in existence, and in commercial production, it took Baroness Harding just under six months to achieve a 30-fold increase in test capacity, and the current level of testing has clearly hit a ceiling (I don’t know what the constraint is, but there’s clearly no headroom left on something).
So we’re going to invent a new test, which doesn’t exist yet even in theory, and which we will then roll at four times the rate of acceleration that we’ve managed so far, and which will be free from whatever constraints there are on the current system, such as trained staff and laboratory space.
I don’t say that’s impossible. But I do say that it’s not guaranteed.
Here’s what I wrote earlier about the false positive rate. Bear in mind that the as-yet-uninvented test has no known false positive rate. But in the context of mass testing, SAGE estimated 41% of the population receiving a false positive in 6 months. On the basis of weekly testing, that reverse engineers to a 2% false positive rate. It seems inconceivable that a mass testing programme in which unsupervised untrained members of the public take their own samples could do any better than careful lab-based analysis of samples taken by trained personnel, and likely a lot worse. (A GOS report assigns almost all of the FPR to the difficulty of performing the test under operational conditions). At current prevalence (0.1% ONS), the evidential value of current tests is around 3%, which is useless. Is this a sellable proposition as government advice? Take a test. If it comes back positive, go into isolation and send us another test. You need another test because there’s a 97% chance you went into isolation needlessly If that’s positive, stay in isolation, because there’s now an evens chance you’ve really got it. Not the most convincing of stories. Every day, of the 15 million people… Read more »
…. in the absence of some form of checkup and compulsion, most people will do what’s in their own interest.
Surely the compulsion will be via the inevitable “covid passport” app on your phone?
Hard to see how the app can tell that you actually took the test as opposed to giving it to your neighbour, your dog or indeed just running it under the tap. It can only work if you have to attend in person with photo-id at an official testing station once a week.
Let’s see how that works. It took a trained nurse about 5 minutes to give me my test. Ten million tests a day, say one million hours, needs at least 120,000 trained staff. There are 500,000 nurses in the UK.
Assume that each test centre can handle 30 people simultaneously: think of your favourite supermarket. That’s 3,000 test centres, which is slightly less than the number of Tesco branches.
So the government needs to set up the equivalent of a new supermarket chain, and train up to 200,000 staff, or alternatively close down a quarter of the NHS to staff them.
Feasible?
PS: Forgot to say, there are of course 1200 hospitals in the UK. Perhaps each of those can cope with people arriving at the rate of one every 3 seconds for tests.
Totally unworkable,but that is the intention.What is feasible is that you are vaccinated with whatever they can concoct .These results become part of your digital identity and you prove it by an app or a tattoo which is embedded in your skin so you can partake in everyday life.All technology which is available now and this is what we are being conditioned to accept now with masks,apps scans to enter
Shops offices etc
I saw it reported somewhere that govt will not pay. The public have to see it as part of the cost of doing things, like paying for a theatre ticket.
“funded and delivered by the private sector”
That’s corporate speak for us.
Forced to hand over money to crony businesses by their friends in government. Easy money if you can get it.
“The leaked documents reveal a heavy reliance on the private sector to achieve the mass testing and give details of “letters of comfort” that have already been signed with companies to reach three million tests a day by December. Firms named are GSK for supplying tests, AstraZeneca for laboratory capacity, and Serco and G4S for logistics and warehousing.”
https://www.bmj.com/content/370/bmj.m3520?ijkey=bb83c69bb5fe2cb1501c9f17645aae3cfbb0e554&keytype2=tf_ipsecsha
GSK being GlaxoSmithKlein of ‘Quids in’ Vallance fame.
Vallance and Whitty and Ferguson…..
And the companies are ……. Ta-Dah!
No surprises there then!
I wouldn’t be pinning any hopes on Vitamin D. The sort of people who are vulnerable to SARS-CoV-2 are more likely to be deficient in Vitamin D, so the fact that people who contract severe Covid are deficient in the vitamin signifies nothing. Also Vitamin D has been tried as a treatment or preventative for numerous different conditions over the past 5-10 years, since it has become a fashionable silver bullet, and to my knowledge it hasn’t been shown to be useful for any of these conditions.
And it case it’s not obvious, we don’t need “silver bullets” like Vitamin D or HCQ to end lockdowns and get back to normal life.
Odd! – not your comment but that you got down to 5 downticks.
Not sure why you would bash Vitamin D. Optimal Vitamin D level is critical for good health. It helps to improve your immune system, that thing that protects you from viruses, bacteria, pathogens etc and many other critical functions.
However, starting to take vitamin D when you get sick will not make you healthy the next day
“I wouldn’t be pinning any hopes on Vitamin D. The sort of people who are vulnerable to SARS-CoV-2 are more likely to be deficient in Vitamin D, so the fact that people who contract severe Covid are deficient in the vitamin signifies nothing.”
Doesn’t it signify that people should be taking more Vit D, and that the Govt should be encouraging them to do so?
Excellent article on Vit D on Dr Malcolm Kendricks blog.
He is of the view that Vit D can be very beneficial.
1https://drmalcolmkendrick.org/2020/07/11/replies-to-the-vitamin-d-article-by-the-guest-contributor/
Sunshine for vitamin D, the way nature intended, or God if you prefer.
Indeed, however if you live in the frozen north, the sun is too weak Oct to March to give you that, hence Vit D levels at their lowest in Brits / Skandis in April.
Good background reading:
https://drmalcolmkendrick.org/2020/07/11/replies-to-the-vitamin-d-article-by-the-guest-contributor/
Modern food production tends to denude the end product of many essential nutrients, and many pestcides and insecticides have obvious detrimental effects on human physiology, as well as imbalanced nutrition, sedentary lifestyle etc..P’raps “organic” is best, as are other targeted supplements to help balance the deficiencies. As individuals re. optimum health one size never fits all.
Shown how?
RCTs? Who funded them?
Big Pharma gains no megabucks from vitamins.
Decolonisation is pure racism.
Nothing has changed they were a bunch of commie cunts when I was a student over 30 years ago.
A good break-down of how the NHSX social distancing app works.
https://www.wired.co.uk/article/nhs-covid-19-tracking-app-contact-tracing
Anybody noticed how the mental 2 meter rule has been revived with vigor? It’s because the 2 meter rule is all about this app. They dropped the 2 meter rule to 1m+ it when the first iteration of the NHSX tanked.
Now in a desperate bid to launch the app the bastards have fired up the stay 2 meters apart thing again with a new found passion. Without social distancing this their new app would be even more useless.
My Nokia is even older than the one pictured. Recieved my instructions to download the app from NHS tracing, but sadly it can’t.
Is it legal for my GP (a private business contractor) to pass my contact details to a third party ?
On this Android I have only 2 contacts, a business partner and my internet provider.
Is it legal for my GP (a private business contractor) to pass my contact details to a third party ?
I thought exactly the same thing.
Probably yes, as far as the NHS is concerned, unless you opted out in writing a few years ago.
I really tried to opt out but my surgery made it impossible to do so.
Mine made it quite difficult. Pretending not to understand, giving false info, etc.
The app won’t work on your phone. Yes it is probably legal for the NHS to sell all your data to who ever wants it. They will have some nice looking privacy bollocks to justify it but your data is all about CASH. Piles of it, Available to any scamming bunch of lying evil idiots who want to abuse your privacy for their own gain.
‘your data is all about CASH. Piles of it, Available to any scamming bunch of lying evil idiots who want to abuse your privacy for their own gain’.
That is to say, US health care providers. That’s what a Brexit US trade deal is about. Access to your health data by the US healthcare industry. The most expensive in the world.
That’s why, despite my serious reservations about the EU, I was against Brexit.
Opens us up to US food and ag policy too. Shudder!
I didn’t give my details to the NHS, I gave them to their contractor, my GP Surgery but, as JohnB notes, I should have contracted out.
We’ve now ‘downgraded’ to a 2G phone and, of course, we also got the text yesterday. What a shame we can’t download it. 😉 I can’t remember exactly but I think the NHS was obliged by the Govt to hand over our personal data as part of the tyranny but maybe someone could confirm this. We’re considering changing our number and not telling them.
Have 10 million people really downloaded the app? Silly Miriam, of course they have. Our posties never wear masks but a Royal Mail parcel van came today and the young driver was wearing a ‘buff’ thing over his face.
The circuits classes were due to re-start this week. Postponed sine die, of course. And we’re off to Zombie City shortly to do a bit of shopping. We saw Morrisons’ despicable ad last night on catch-up TV with those poor staff posing in black underpants. Horrible! We’re looking at ways not to use them after today which probably means using the useless Coop more. MW
Is it legal for my GP (a private business contractor) to pass my contact details to a third party ?
It probably wasn’t before the Cabinet coup.
So you can scan a QR code to ‘check in’, then delete the app data or uninstall the app, then re-install and do the same the next time you can’t be bothered to argue with some idiot at the door to somewhere? All with bluetooth off, and no trace is left of you?
Assuming the goal is to actually contact people with COVID, isn’t the pen and paper method actually more effective?
You can delete all QR data from within the app at the press of a button. Also disable bluetooth tracking; or delete all people it’s scanned, again at the press of a button. It’s really privacy conscious, actually.
That data only gets used if an alert gets sent out about a positive case, then your phone matches it up to places you’ve visited or people you’ve been near.
Is all data stored on the phone, or is there a central repository?
It’s all stored on the phone.
Thanks
How does it know when you leave a site? What if I went to a cafe for an early coffee and then went home. Hours later an ‘infected’ checks in to same cafe. Would I get an alert despite no crossover? Not that I am going to download the app but surely these questions need answering?
It doesn’t know when you left. That’s the fatal flaw. The contact data is deleted at midnight. So if you went in at 8am that would be 16 hours of potential contacts. So, yes, you would probably get an alert. What isn’t clear to me is how or if the app correlates the Bluetooth beaconing with you having scanned the QR code with other BT beacons present at the same time with the same QR code.
This is why there’s talk of having a QR code for your house.
Gets more sinister by the day!
Lots of room for ‘improvisation’ by the neighbourhood scallies …
It doesn’t’. Currently your contacts list is re-set at midnight every day. So if you went into a pub for breakfast at 7:30 am and left at 8:30am then at 11:30pm Mr Corona staggers into the pub with his app bleeping out that he is positive and should be staying inside for 14 days YOU will be contacted to isolate for 14 days too or at least you would be flagged and warned to check for any symptoms as you have been in contact with an infected person.
I think this is how it works.
Indeed it is, that’s why I find it so strange that they seem to be so keen on it. Am I correct in my understanding that businesses are being pushed to get people to migrate over to this app as opposed to giving contact details?
They’ve done nothing up to this point to make me believe that they care about privacy or personal choice, but this app makes it very easy to exercise both. It makes me suspicious!
What I’ve done in the last few days is walk in, confidently wave my phone over the qr code, pretend to scan it and then sit down and get served.
(I haven’t downloaded the app of course and never will).
No questions asked.
Presumably premises have no way of telling whether I actually scanned it or not, short of inspecting my phone?
Or do they?
Perfect solution. The other method is to turn off Bluetooth. The app can’t function without Bluetooth, so go into the settings for the app (if for any reason you have to download it – why would you, FFS?) and check the app isn’t allowed to access Bluetooth OR LOCATION on your phone. End of problem.
Pretending to scan the code is probably the very best option, I give my details manually (with a fake phone number), but I will be using this fake scanning method in future.
In my local they can tell if you have scanned yourself in using the QR code. As they know I won’t do it and hell will freeze over before I download the ridiculous APP they happily take my name, which they know anyway, and I give them a wrong phone number, simples…
Businesses who use the paper option have to destroy the piece of paper after 21 days.
Does the information stored by the App by NHS get destroyed after 21 days?
I understand that once you’ve scanned in a code, the app doesn’t change your location till the next QR scan.
You could be theoretically trapped in Morrison’s for eternity ……
God forbid….
I did read that was the purpose of the 2 metre rule shortly after it was introduced; nah, crazy conspiracy theory thought I.
If social distancing works, why face nappies? If face nappies work, why social distancing? If neither works, why bother?
From what I’ve seen people wearing masks seem to think that it exempts them from social distancing, not that it bothers me.
It exempts them from having a brain
It exempts them from empathy, it exempts them from being human. It exempts US from living any kind of normal life.
Well that was the “logic” behind the 1m+ rule, so they got half the message.
No, this is good; it’s another excuse to bash the Karens. If anyone wearing a muzzle says to me that I’m too close to them, my response is “You can have a 2 metre gap or you can have a 1 metre gap with a muzzle, not both.” This immediately doesn’t compute in their tiny brains as they’ve seen the 1metre+ crap so they think I’m right.
Anything to muddy the waters…
It’s all not about controlling a virus.
Nope.
Most rigorous study on the technical limitations and problems associated with Bluetooth LE (low energy) proximity detection. Abstract:- “We report on measurements of Bluetooth Low Energy(LE) received signal strength taken on mobile handsets in avariety of common, real-world settings. We note that a key difficulty is obtaining the ground truth as to when people are in close proximity to one another. Knowledge of this ground truth is important for accurately evaluating the accuracy with which contact events are detected by Bluetooth LE. We approach this by adopting a scenario-based approach. In summary, we find that the Bluetooth LE received signal strength can vary substantially depending on the relative orientation of handsets, on absorption by the human body, reflection/absorption of radio signals in buildings and trains. Indeed we observe that the received signal strength need not decrease with increasing distance. This suggests that the development of accurate methods for proximity detection based on Bluetooth LE received signal strength is likely to be challenging. Our measurements also suggest that combining use of Bluetooth LE contact tracing apps with adoption of new social protocols may yield benefits but this requires further investigation. For example, placing phones on the table during meetings is likely… Read more »
Good one, that is exactly what I was thinking about.
I’m not sure what point you are trying to make. BT is a ubiquitous short range data communication protocol currently at version 5.2. It was never intended to provide a ranging function based on the received signal strength.
Meh. Bluetooth is a useful, short range radio standard. Getting rid of the need to have things connected to each other physically is a positive, on balance. T&T is attempting to hijack it, but in doing so is 1) not using it for its actual purpose and 2) trying to use functionality that doesn’t actually exist. I’m not sure there’s any more sanity in theorising that the fashion for wireless headphones has been softening us up for the test and trace app than there is in suggesting that Covid is caused by 5G
If you are that paranoid; BT is the least of your worries. GPS, mobile phone tower affiliation and good old Ethernet with its unique Media Access Control Address can all be correlated to give a very accurate fix of your position. There are apps that routinely do this (although Apple iOS does at least try to mitigate some of the the most egregious examples of this) as part of their telemetry.
Always keep in mind: How does the developer make money? If the app is free you are very likely to be the product.
That’s what I understand especially if it’s using 5G to tag phones, that needs 6 ft separation between phones to get a good fix and not get confused or it just lumps all phones in the 6ft circle as one.
Will try an find the technical papers I read a few months go about this.
5G doesn’t have much to do with it yet. Tagging is done with blue tooth.
Yet!
At the trafalgar Square protest, the riot police suddenly swooped on everyone at 3pm and broke up the rally.
They were very aggressive and attacked a few of the participants.
Some went ont to Hyde Park where the police arrested a German doctor who had been scheduled to speak
They didn’t say what the cahrges were and took him to Wandsworth prison where he was only released the next day after 22 hours.
https://www.facebook.com/marki.playss/videos/10158585667921136/
https://acu2020.org/english-versions/
Congratulations to all the heroes who attended and well done for staying calm in the face of politically motivated police provocation.
“Shame on you” precisely the correct response.
Staying calm – you won. Well done. Really messed with the police control plans for the day.
70 year old ladies with baton bruises. You won. Respect to all.
Fucking wankers
I’m like a broken record in comparing this whole episode to the Inquisition. Below are some quotes I found on the subject. Before you read on, consider how the current fear that pervades through our society is not of a virus but of the punishment that may be meted out if people do not bow to the threat it is alleged to pose: “The Inquisition was created to establish unrestrained rule over the poor, frightened population. The most effective means of achieving this was robbery and the annihilation of all those who aspired to bring light into the darkness of the Middle Ages—those who were too independent, who dared to talk about the General Good, who protested against this kingdom of the devil, personified in the representatives of the Inquisition. The establishment of the Inquisition was a horrible caricature of Divine Justice.” — Helena Roerich, Letters I, (8 September 1934) “That is the idea — that we should all be wicked if we did not hold to the Christian religion. It seems to me that the people who have held to it have been for the most part extremely wicked. You find this curious fact, that the more intense has… Read more »
The Inquisition was established to identify Moslems and Jews who had converted to Christianity but who secretly continued the rites of their earlier faith.
So perhaps when the Health Passport thingey is up and running one will be instituted to track down those who seek to subvert it.
Actually, the inquisition was often launched against sects like the Cathars – Christians who taught heretical creeds such as “it is possible to worship without bishops” and “women are the equals of men” along with a gnostic perception of Christianity where the New Testament was akin to an ancient mystery religion with stories not intended to be taken literally (they viewed Jesus as largely allegorical).
There was also a political motive in wiping out the Cathars, as it brought the Languedoc under the French crown for the first time since the rule of Charlemagne.
Paul was a gnostic, whereas Peter the liar, who didn’t understand Jesus’ teachings, went on to found the Church of Rome. Go figure!
We are definitely heretics!
Pullman says:
Every single religion that has a monotheistic god ends up by persecuting other people and killing them because they don’t accept him.
Pullman is a very bitter, petty, wannabe ‘woke’ man who just tweeted on the appointment of Moore and Dacre:
BBC, Ofcom, etc: this is a culture war, sure enough. I know which side I’m on, and I want to see the enemy wiped out.
Hmm. Perhaps he needs to look in the mirror…
Boris Johnson is also fond of writing erudite prose on freedom, etc. But his true nature is something different,
Snitchers were at the very heart of the Inquisition, both its early phase of identifying false Conversos and latterly witches when they need another form of activity to justify their existence.
He can’t write either. To say “monotheistic god” is absurd pleonasm.
pleonasm – my word of the day ! 🙂
I pointed out to an ex-friend of mine that collective hysteria is a “thing”, though I used a more recent example. I got back a reply questioning my sanity. End of friendship.
Another one bites the dust.
Next!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=243&v=BNnsb5a7oOM&feature=emb_logo
2 German school girls have died thought to be because they are forced to wear masks all day long
That is a very powerful video. It’s worth sharing, if you have any friends or family left to share it with.
I give it a couple of hours before you tube pulls the video
Its still there. I wonder how long it will stay there for.
Can you share a link to this as I can’t find any info on Bing?
Please remember, cause of death has not been established. That the masks were involved is a theory right now!
We have to be careful to stick to facts!
I hear what you are saying, but the amount of people that I have seen who are really struggling with the damn things across their face makes me so angry. I went to a pub on Friday, we were greeted at the door by the landlady, a middle aged plump woman who seemed to be gasping almost!. I was asked about a mask and just shook my head and she took us to our table. I am stopping going out and spending my money, nothing is enjoyable any more and I usually end up angry and in a row with hubby.
From the roundup.
Kenan Malik names Toby as part of a ‘right wing cabal’ that have taken over the anti lockdown debate before admitting that left have not been in that space before repeating some of the anti-authoritarian points many have been making here for months, come and join us Kenan, every sceptic welcome.
He does mention that 242 Statuary Instruments have been dictated under Coronovirus legislation. Can anyone confirm that as Secondary Legislation none of these can override Statute Law, my rights under Disability Discrimination for example or indeed Human Rights in general ?
Seems he loves a face mask though
I think the reality is that whatever rights we have the virus hoo-haa ha swept away the mechanisms for doing anything about them. As reported yesterday a lady was asked by a pub to write down her medical condition to justify being exempt from wearing a face mask. This may well be illegal under disability/equality legislation but there’s nothing you can do about it, in the current virus febrile atmosphere i doubt any official body would or could take up a case. Even Simon Dolan with all his money is having to battle to get his case to court, what chance do we have?
I am afraid that living as we now do in the mad world of covid hysteria many of our rights and entitlements have been effectively swept away.
I’ll be standing up for my rights if they try it out on me but I would like clarification in case of interactions with the Police.
The provisions of the Equality Act still stand and no SI has yet overridden an existing law. If there is a conflict (and there very probably will be conflicts) between laws introduced this year by SI and preexisting law, it would be for the courts to decide how the conflict should be resolved.
If you have a raft of law produced in a short period of time and not examined by parliament, you will inevitably end up with badly drafted law (quite frankly, even laws that go through the parliamentary process can end up being badly drafted). It’s inevitable.
I think you misspelled a word there karenovirus. What you will need after an interaction with the Police is ‘hospitalisation’ not clarification.
My bad😷
Surely BLM will be pulling them down shortly ? 🙂
It really is common this.
Someone who has started to be a little sceptical having previously seen lockdowns as essential and masks as medicine, while labelling all tbise against such views as anti vax facists, now makes tentative moves out of their box.
However, they still want to retain their most virtuous opinions as they put their neck on the line. A climbdown would be too painful. So they look for a way out. However, this is a folly because their logic and reasoning is already fundamentally wrong.
To think that they can now be sceptic but still call others right wing authoritarians for having aired the same views much much earlier, can’t of sustained. It’s not about left or right. It’s about fundamentals beyond your petty politics.
These right wing facists as you wish to see them are fighting for you, not against you.
I think you might be shooting the messenger but perhaps I misunderstand you.
I suspect there must be a fair number of people who, like me, visit this site as a welcome source of information and antidote to the constant stream of hysteria around this virus found elsewhere, but who do not subscribe to the wider politics of people such as Toby Young.
When the first thing you see is a plug for Laurence Fox’s new ‘party’ it does tend to put you off. Of course, it’s your site so you can include whatever you like, but do you want a wide readership or not? Might be best to stick to what unites people opposed to lockdowns, whatever political background they are from.
I don’t give a toss about politics – it’s all a charade to me – but it’s good to hear that someone wants to stand up against the woke mob and push back against their lunacy.
I would imagine it’s quite the challenge to produce an informative and intellectually stimulating blog day in day out, and there’s probably a few days here and there where you’re scraping the barrel for some content…maybe this is one of those days?
Or maybe TY’s real passion is free speech, so he puts it in here because there is a fair bit of overlap.
In any case, surely we are not all expecting to agree 100% with everything we read? That’s a bit sad, isn’t it?
‘Or maybe Toby Young’s real passion is free speech’ – except when the Guardian criticises the government for ordering schools not to use educational material that expresses a desire to end capitalism. Like wot the Labour Party and trade unionism have, at different times in history. (Source – DfE guidance issued Thursday.)
‘ How easy it is to lose a country, to slip surreptitiously into totalitarianism… Imagine an educational system that banned schools from…teaching resources dedicated to..writers like William Morris, Iris Murdoch, Thomas Paine, even. Well you don’t have to. Boris Johnsons government has just instructed schools to do exactly that.’
I agree with Fox’s stance on wokeness but any new party involving Farage, even if it is anti lockdown at its heart, would have me running for the hills. I just skim over anything pro Farage, or pro Brexit, I read here, and there isn’t much of it thankfully.
Dumbest comment of the day already
Followed by yours, Biker? I mean, someone expressing their opinion is dumb? We certainly get a lot of incoherent strings of angry opinions from you. I say that in the most loving way possible.
People are entitled to skim over anything on this site that they find of little interest or are annoyed by. I’ve come to be entertained by much of what you say, so have stopped skipping your screeds.
Are people not also entitled to get annoyed and let off a bit of steam now and again?
Maybe “grow a pair” and stop taking it so personally?
just get used to Biker. He (or she??) is the site’s tame Rotweiller who takes no prisoners.
Seriously though the comments do go off piste occasionally and can be sarcastic, cynical and sometimes quite humorous but they are used as a safety valve .
And not every one will agree with every point of view.
Made me feel a bit special when Biker had a pop at me for being insufficiently rude about my Labour MP shortly after I’d joined LS.
I am not pro-Brexit, never have been, but if Farage throws himself behind a non-lockdown party, I’m right behind him 100%.
Farage was very much pro lockdown from the start through the summer.
If he had been in charge, he would have locked down and crushed discussion and free speech even more heavily- see other right wing parties attitudes, particularly when in opposition, like in Sweden.
I have no illusions about the authoritarian tendencies of the left or right.
I agree, we can’t be too fussy about our bedfellows – Farage, David Icke, Piers Corbyn…god, I’d even take Hitler or Stalin if they came back from the dead and came out on our side….. for me it’s a binary question: freedom -vs- tyranny, which side are you on? I don’t care about anything else.
But what branch of politics is responsible for the lockdowns? Where does the hysteria come from? Who is propagating the most egregious propaganda?
I’m just wondering who it is that the web site should be lobbying for change. There is, presumably, a correlation between lockdown mania and political persuasion.
At a fundamental level it’s about freedom. Who represents a desire for freedom, and who represents the opposite?
Exactly. The government is nominally on the right, having been voted in as a Brexit party. The Guardian is nominally on the left. Neither seems to represent freedom (or intellectual honesty or the ability to understand science).
I don’t think there is a correlation between political persuasion and lockdown mania. I have no idea who we should lobby for change. The biggest change required is in people’s own minds, and they are not usually amenable to “lobbying”.
Toby also mentions the British Library’s current lunacy above which does have some connection to the current crisis, however tenuous and its to do with upper middle class technocrats reasserting their authorities to tell us Ordinary Joes and Janes that they know what’s good for us. They can’t accept the fact that they have been defeated time and again but they still keep coming back.
Laurence Fox setting up a new party is one way of pushing back against these technocrats to remind them that its the people who are sovereign not them.
I suppose we could do a survey. How many ‘left’ and ‘right’-leaning people can we find on SAGE and in the media who are pro-mask and pro-lockdown. And how many are against. I suspect it’s a pretty strong correlation between pro-lockdown and ‘left’.
You’ll have no trouble finding people like mask maniac ‘Professor’ ‘Trish’ Greenhalgh who even has #BLM in her twitter name and openly posts anti-Trump and anti-Boris stuff despite her professional position and pretensions to being a scientist.
Possibly, but this kind of thing risks alienating people who consider themselves “left” who are very much anti lockdown
Maybe better to steer clear, for now, interesting as it is
I guess you’re right, but I’m not anti-left – I’m just an observer who seems to be spotting certain patterns. Maybe Toby sees Laurence Fox as an actual way for lockdown scepticism to leave these pages and actually have some influence in the real world – although I think LF seems to be steering clear of Covid.
I’ve always disagreed with this approach because I think an “apolitical” approach is ultimately, unfortunately, unrealistic. And in terms of influencing the government, a credible threat from their right that can keep them out of power not by winning seats themselves (a massively tall order for any new party under fptp), but by taking enough votes from them to let their opponents win seats, is much more dangerous to them. Ultimately, that’s why they caved to UKIP/Brexit Party.
Ideally there would be a similar anti-coronapanic party on the left as well threatening Labour in its marginal seats, and the two would not contest the same seats.
You make some good points
Depends if you see the primary function of any anti-lockdown party as frightening the Tories or as a focal point to change public opinion. If it’s the latter, something more politically neutral may be better. I still believe if public opinion was moving anti-lockdown then it would be much easier for the govt to shift in the right direction
Just thinking how far £5M would go in a massive information campaign to counteract govt propaganda
So as a left wing person, I am responsible for other people’s opinions if they identify as being on the left? This is rather like making me responsible for other people’s illnesses, which I thought was part of the point of being a lockdown sceptic.
This is Toby’s site, so he can ride any hobby horse he likes, but his commitment to free speech does mean that us lefties can object to things if we like. However, I prefer it when we stick to topics that are actually relevant to lockdown scepticism.
So what is the left wing case for lifting lockdown? ‘Libertarian’ is seen as a dirty word, but it does pretty much describe the anti-lockdown case. I’m genuinely curious how the left can frame a cry for freedom and liberty without it being seen by their comrades as ‘far right’ – because that’s the association they have created.
I’m more right than left, but the left’s case for ending lockdown would be similar to the right’s wouldn’t it – by any reasonable measure, the response is way worse than the danger of the virus?
Correct, which is why many on the left read and write here – if rather less stridently and defensively than some identifying as ‘on the right’.
Just as “stridently and defensively”, in some cases, allowing for the numbers difference.
With respect I think the position we find ourselves in means that this is a sterile argument. The most important thing is freedom. Once freedom is established we can debate how best to organise society based on policies which may be of the left or the right, or a mixture of both.
But without freedom we have nothing, and life is not worth living.
Why don’t self-professed left wing people ever summarise their position in a few sentences? Instead – in this forum at least – there seems to be some embarrassment “Best not talk about it. We just want to lift lockdown, OK..?”
Laurence Fox represents a political force i.e. he might actually get somewhere, and his values seem to be compatible with finding the lockdown repugnant. (But I don’t actually know what he thinks about it)
If there’s a similar, overtly left wing leader/organisation I think we would be very interested to know about it. I did raise the concept of ‘Blue Labour’ here a while ago – and received a very negative reaction, although again without anyone wanting to say why.
I am left-wing and libertarian… we seem to be a dying breed.
I find left wing/right wing very confusing
Wikipedia says:
Generally, the left–wing is characterized by an emphasis on “ideas such as freedom, equality, fraternity, rights, progress, reform and internationalism” while the right–wing is characterized by an emphasis on “notions such as authority, hierarchy, order, duty, tradition, reaction and nationalism”.
Which makes me left wing. But I believe in a small state and freedom and personal responsibility. And I have consequently always voted conservative (apart from that one time in the 1990s when I voted Lib Dem)
Currently at -3… what was wrong with my question? Am I just imagining the BBC, Guardian, Huffington Post etc. always linking ‘scepticism’ (they would always put it in quotes and follow it with a 😉 ) with the ‘far right’?
Am I imagining articles like this?
How coronavirus has brought together conspiracy theorists and the far right
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/sep/04/coronavirus-conspiracy-theorists-far-right-protests
If this is typical of left wing thought, I am genuinely interested in how a left wing case can be made for lifting the lockdowns.
For people less interested by the libertarian angle specifically, the argument might be: These measures disproportionately impact the poor – they’ll cause starvation for millions in other parts of the world. While pubs for “normal people” are shut, they’re still open in parliament. These measures are disproportionately impacting certain “ethnic minorities”, as shown in deaths figures. All the numbers show that the divide between rich and poor has increased during this time. The harsh local lockdowns have often been in poorer or “ethnically diverse” areas – Bradford, certain areas of Birmingham etc. Coincidence? They’re allowing supermarkets to stay open, thus helping big chains and promoting home delivery for those services that have the infrastructure to support it, while footfall in small businesses has fallen massively. The “working classes” (doctors, delivery drivers etc.) have had to keep working and keep putting themselves at risk, while the rich sit at home in safety. The working classes weren’t allowed out, and were discouraged from going to parks etc… while the rich chilled out in their gardens. I think the reason for the downvotes is probably that “the left” you’re referring to aren’t really “the left” – they’re the virtue signalling Guardianistas who have… Read more »
I don’t object to lockdown on libertarian grounds, I object to lockdown because it is completely illogical and will lead to millions more deaths than it saves.
“Of course, it’s your site so you can include whatever you like”
quite!
From the roundup
“Warning of 50,000 cases a day likely to be wrong”. *Link appears to be broken.*
I wanted to ask if there is so much testing going on why the following?
1). A person with severe underlying conditions that puts them in top priority for getting tested cannot book a test either now or in the near future. This person continues to work in-office within the Track’n’Trace system and says ‘testing has no capacity’.
2). A member of staff at a private children’s home for the severely physically disabled has tested positive. No tests are available for the resident children who instead are being forced to individually self isolate. Some of them have little or no ability to communicate.
Anyone would think it was only the British who ever had colonies – what about France, Germany, Portugal etc etc?
Or Russia, the USA, China and Islam which still do.
I wish the Normans would go home.
Today is the day the Normans landed at Hastings and England became a Norman colony. The Normans eventually took over Wales, Scotland and Ireland. I think it kind of weird that almost nobody seems to recognise that England was the first place to be colonised. Although I suppose you could argue that Normandy itself was colonised by the Normans, who were Vikings at that time.
I think the Romans got here first 🙂
– sorry, scrub that – plenty more migrations in pre history.
Of course the Normans invented ‘the harrying of the North’.
Nearly a thousand years passed before Johnson and Sturgeon simultaneously thought “Ooh! That’s a good idea”
The Norman Yoke
Look…like I already said at a middle class dinner part on Saturday( and got a lot of dirt y looks)..You cannot fucking decolonize a country that was the colonizer !!How fucking hard is to understand that. The process of decolonization has only ever historically taken place in places that were colonized ( Africa, Indonesia etc) which in essence means getting rid of buildings, statues and laws that the colonizers have imposed .
Jesus Christ…their parents are paying thousands of pounds for their kids to end up complete ,morons.I have a niece that has finished a very prestigious university and have had to put her wokenes in check a couple of times when she was visiting. They teach them this shot and they they think they are right without any further evidence..
and have you noticed that most of the countries that were colonies (particularly UK colonies) have maintained most of the trappings of colonisation.. The institutions (parliament, civil service etc etc) buildings .
And then of course, many make a mess of independence (or turn in to tribal war zones (eg Ruanda, Zimbabwe)) and ultimately end up as colonies of china due to the indebtedness they have, In some countries now the debt to China is 25% of GNP.
There is a pointlessness to revisionism in action. Yes, you can teach that history was full of bad people, you must. But also that you are not that history, no need to feel guilty or required to rectify it, or feel angry about it, or feel offended, or expect that others owe you something because of it.
There was a sad day for me this past week. I went out with a mate and he put a mask on as we walked down the street towards the store we had planned on visiting. We had done this same routine many times over the past few months without masking up and I couldn’t even bear to look over directly at him. I saw it all happen in my peripheral vision and a little part of me died inside. Oh well, at least I have you folks to feel connected to even though I live many thousands of miles away.
Defund him
Depressing isn’t it. A friend of mine posted a photo of herself on Facebook yesterday wearing a mask outside and also keeps posting things about how she is looking forward to the day there is a vaccine plus encouraging everyone to get the flu vaccine now and saying we’d be negligent not to get the flu vax.
I know I have to avoid meeting her in real life until all this is over (if it’s ever over) because we’d end up no longer being friends. In her defence she does have a serious life limiting condition and had been shielding but even so I just don’t want to get into an argument with her.
So far I haven’t seen any of my old friends wearing the nappy. But then I have studiously avoided the town center and the shops since face nappy day. I dread the day I see my old mates doing it. Yes another part of me will die inside too.
As a woman who does not mask, I find it shocking that men do this………
I mean MEN??
Totally get it Kate. Can almost see a Monty python sketch coming on. Come on manly men, rip that mask off and join the other manly men! There are a lot of woosy men round here I can tell you.
Yep, they should MAN UP!
Moral courage is evenly divided across the sexes.
I have been impressed by the prominent role women have taken in this battle. Anna Brees, for instance.
I suppose we women will get written out of history again, once the history of these times comes to be written……I hope it does get to be written…..just think what will have occurred if this history never is recorded.
What you find it shocking that men don the nappy or like me avoid the zombies?
I feel like a coward for avoiding the shops but honestly it is better for my own safety that I avoid the masked up masses. It will not end well. That’s for sure. I will get arrested.
To be fair on the men, they know they are more likely to be in for aggression if they don’t comply. Women may be a bit safer.
Do you think? I am not sure about that – remember that oaf berating the small woman on tube. Bullies like to pick on people smaller than them.
same here, I’ve avoided all indoor public spaces for the past 6 months, because I can’t take all the fannying around with masks and social distancing. it just makes my blood run cold.
Can’t you have a word? You know, get him to see the foolishness of his ways?
My favourite taxi driver tells me that it is now the law that I wear a mask while in his cab, I point out that I am mask exempt, he points out that he is not a policeman.
So all seems well until he tells me that I am required to use the rear seats. I’ve not sat in the back of a car since voluntarily being taken to a police station (and back because vindicated) 10 years ago. Made me feel like a naughty child.
Sorry mate, Shanks’ pony for me now.
Defund him
I will be though it’s not his fault.
Yea it is, tell him to grow a pair
He had already told me that he wouldn’t bother about me not wearing a mask but he would be snitched on by fellow cabbies if I were to use the front seat, neither of us know where that instruction came from.
I refer you to my previous answer. Defund him. He will change his mind when there is no food on the table
That is the thing, he has a license and a livelihood to protect and there are plenty of toddlers about who would, I am sure delight in dobbing him in. Isn’t it frightening how easily we have become a nation of snitches.
I usually sit in the back – does that make me weird?
I also sit in the back.
Not at all, it’s just personal preference.
I had an interesting chat with a cabbie the other night, who was really mask rabid. Turns out he’d called the council for advice on mask exemptions and was advised to refuse anyone claiming exemption!
Ooh, ooh, which council ?
That’s like the council advising him to refuse a guide dog, astonishing or the cabbie is a liar.
actually I don’t really have a problem with that. it’s his cab. he’s entitled to take or leave who he likes.
Up early
Fancied full English breakfast. Tried to order but was told it would need a Statutory Instrument. They refused to get a parliamentary draughtsman out of bed this time of the morning so could I come back later
The full Scottish can only be taken whilst seated, and when supervised by two people from internal security. An extra sausage (titter ye not) is available but they are held in a vault under Holyrood and no-one knows who’s got the key
The Welsh is the same as the English but arrives three weeks after being ordered
Can’t be asked, I’ll just cut off a couple of my fingers and stick them in the George Forman
There has recently been a rise in positivity from the PCR tests concurrent with the rise in the number of tests carried out. This could be because of the changing demographic i.e. previously untested young people being tested due to return to school, university or work but I wonder if there is another reason?
It is known that the SARS COV2 virus is detectable by PCR in a non viable form in sewage, wastewater and even tap water and this could be a source of cross contamination in the sampling.
But what about the unintended escape of lab waste? Each vial of positive lab waste (one test) contains over 1 Trillion amplified strands of SARS COV2 DNA. If, hypothetically, these one Trillion strands from one single vial were distributed over the whole land area of the UK (242,000 Km2) there would be 1 detectable strand of DNA per 0.24 square metres. (I would appreciate any challenges to my maths!).
My hypothesis is that fragments of unviable but detectable virus strands are available everywhere to cross contaminate samples which could explain the rise in positivity?
Bit like ‘explosive residues’ being detectable on most old banknotes and playing cards in casinos.
And Cocaine, how traces of it can be found EVERYWHERE, especially in the bogs at the Houses Of Parliament.
I like it. And there’s this:
https://www.newsweek.com/viruses-atmosphere-falling-800694
Billions of viruses swept up on dust particles and in water droplets carried around the world and deposited on every square metre of land every day. When I first saw this, I was wondering whether a country like New Zealand could really stay isolated forever – but most of these viruses will be ‘dead’, of course.
However, your point about PCR testing sounds very relevant.
Six to twelve times a year it can be seen as a reddish dusting of sand on cars, comes from Libya apparently.
It’s the Ashes blowing over, after we burned Libya to the ground.
WOW, I can’t help with the maths, obviously but this is a very interesting way to look at things. Coroni is literally absolutely EVERYWHERE all the time…Who Knew?
I did, after a week without close human contact, took friend out in car for meal, (restaurant doing the spacing but no masks) one week later, got a cold. These viruses are everywhere and inescapable. Scotland WILL get infected, hope they’ve spent the last 6 months gearing up.
What kind of a country have we become when arrogant bullying is seen as the proper function of Ministers? Ex-Supreme Court judge LORD SUMPTION denounces No10’s rule of muddle and authoritarianism
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-8776267/Ex-Supreme-Court-judge-LORD-SUMPTION-denounces-No10s-rule-muddle-authoritarianism.html
Daily Mail commenters well up to speed. Some of the most disliked are clearly faked to get the old blood pressure up.
There is nothing worse than groups of full of shit students talking at the top of their voices in pubs
Keep them in Nicola’s concentration camps
They have only been there a week and are already trying to bum free beer
There is nothing worse than people riding the bus without a mask on.
Keep them in concentration camps
They have only been there a week and are already insisting on riding the bus wherever they want.
Attack one, attack all.
“NHS staff carry out Coronavirus tests at a testing facility in Bracebridge Heath, Lincoln ”
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/09/27/neighbours-urged-call-police-covid-self-isolation-cheats1/#comment
She’s wearing a cheap plastic visa and paper mask made that costs nothing from Amazon and are made in cheap Asian sweatshops. They won’t stop her passing or receiving the virus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKkzzKCr_yg
Sterile face mask production in India
Indeed, Surgeons wear visors to stop themselves getting splattered with gore from major blood outages, not to protect from itty bitty virus.
Anybody who wears a visor to stop Coroni IS INSANE.
My other half wears a visor purely as she’s been told she has to wear a face covering or face a disciplinary, she wasn’t about to wear a mask all day and knows the futility of the visor but she can’t afford to risk losing her job. It’s totally ridiculous on so many levels!
so sorry for her. really.
This is one horrible situation.
Big time. So many of the masked who want to still remain open to exemptions I have heard ask that such people should instead wear a visor. Just to make them feel safe. They’ve got it into their heads that anyone breathing will be risk.
Seen one such friend share this:
https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0925/1167546-masks/
So I looked at it. She hadn’t read it at all and assumed the headline was recommending visors. It does the opposite.
And when I looked at the Mater Hospit studies on masks, it’s making the same unsupported inferences that many other studies have done. They take effects seen in the lab to mean that masks are massively effective at preventing viral transmission (droplets = virus according to them) but then forget that it takes 100% compliance all the time everywhere to get an effect. Which is why going from lab to society is such a crucial misstep.
Even more so, when we have such low spread, the actual number of prevented infections would be minute, could only be enforced with heavy handed policies. As people don’t want to wear them, hence the mandates.
The whole masks debate is so divisive
In Italy, an adjustable visor the size of a mask, or a translucent adjustable mask, is now quite popular.
I guess it’s their way to show the authorities the middle finger….
https://youtu.be/TfqQ02sA9Nk
and here is another one from melbourne!
Ross Clark -wrote this in February and he was right then https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/Coronavirus-and-the-cycle-of-panic Coronavirus and the cycle of panic It is the latest phenomenon to fulfil our weird and growing appetite for doom From magazine issue: 29 February 2020 Coronavirus and the cycle of panic If you have just cancelled your trip to Venice and ordered your £19.99 surgical face mask from Amazon, how about this for a terrifying vision: by the time we get to April, 50,000 Britons will have succumbed to a combination of infectious disease and adverse weather. Frightened? If you are, don’t worry: you survived. It was two years ago. In 2017-18 the Office for National Statistics recorded 50,100 ‘excess winter deaths’. The explanation, according to the ONS, was probably ‘the predominant strain of flu, the effectiveness of the influenza vaccine, and below average winter temperatures’. Coronavirus (Covid-19) is a pretty virulent virus all right, but not in the way you might imagine. It is less our respiratory tracts it has infected than our inner sense of angst. By last Monday there were 79,331 confirmed cases worldwide, all but 2,069 of which were in China. There have been 2,595 deaths in China and 23 elsewhere in the… Read more »
Ross Clark appears to be a very prescient individual. He might have mentioned that the reason Ebola is so scary is that it kills just about everyone it touches in a very nasty way but that is also why it is a rubbish disease in that it soon runs out of victims. The only reason it sometimes gets individuals in the West is because of our interventions there.
PS’ avoid Madagascar, they still have the Black Death/Plague there.
Lockdowners V. Libertarians.
Britain’s new Divide.
Guardian 27/9/20
Very fair summary of the current debate (framed as 50-50) and the main players on each side listing politicians, the media and scientists main positions and the lockdown policies/results of various nations though that part is a bit lockdownista biased.
Well the guardian has always believed only the state can solve this so called crisis (Benito Mussolini Doctrine of Fascism)
To steal once more an observation from Hitchens, I am not a libertarian, I just think that the measures are disproportionate. That’s a perfectly defensible POV and one that I suspect many hold. “Libertarian” is often used as a smear, like “conspiracy theorist”. It’s all part of the plot to politicise opposition to the nonsense.
I can’t bear to read Guardian articles any more (former Guardian reader), but I am obviously not a “lockdowner” nor am I a “libertarian”. But I have been feeling largely invisible, except for the hate stares pointed at my maskfree face on the bus.
They are good at beating up peaceful, defenceless old women on Trafalgar Square, but run away in Brixton and Tottenham
The moral of the story?
Defund the Police ?😃
Violence works.
There is a good reason why the government insists on a monopoly of it.
The Guardian: Too many children are being tested for Covid, says leading expert.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/sep/27/too-many-children-tested-for-covid-leading-study-schools
Probably to ramp up the close schools or close the pubs (which I think is called a false dichotomy).
Whitty did say we can’t have both a few weeks ago,before schools reopened
That is being driven by the schools. A slight temperature get a test. A slight cough or sore throat get a test. Either that or they send to GP and then ask the GP for a letter before child can return to school. GP responds by saying they will send a letter to the school in return for £50 (standard charge for private letter not covered by NHS). No more requests for letters! Also there’s a tendency for my colleagues to advise a test for children presenting with temperature etc. without a full differential being considered.
Yes, a couple of my acquaintances’ have been asked by schools to get a test for their kids
I think it was Two-Six who posted an article further down the page, explaining how the T&T app works.
It seems too easy to be true that you can use the app to scan QR codes at venues, then just delete the app data or uninstall the app to avoid being traced or notified at all. This is less intrusive than being asked for a phone number!
What are they up to? I don’t think they’re this incompetent, nor do I believe they care about privacy or choice.
According to the DM “Users of the NHS contact tracing app are not covered by the new rules. They are anonymous and the Government cannot force them to self-isolate.”
So those who are not opposed to downloading the app in the first place still need pay no attention to any alerts. For now.
The DT report “But many users complained that they had received alarming messages from the app, saying they may have been exposed, even though they had not left the house since installing it.”
Surely anyone in that situation will delete permanently.
I think that today sees the start of mandatory self isolation or risk a fine. I guess that for people that have had a test there are documents to confirm that they have had a +ve test. But I understand this system extends to contacts? Does that mean contacts will be sent a formal notice requiring them to self isolate and that there will be an official register of contacts who have received such orders?
Ideally there should be some mechanism of challenging being identified as a contact if you believe it to be false or malicious but i suspect that in the mad world of covid no such checks are available?
Am I correct that being tested is voluntary? If so we need to continue to spread the word, do not get tested, it is not compulsory, do not download the app, consider what you are going to put down under contact details if asked and when answering the phone do not give your name first and if they say NHS test and trace put on a fake accent and pretend to be the local take-away.
Just don’t reply any unknown phone numbers
And ensure you give a gender neutral name, Constant Lambert sounds nice, an address abroad, and a phone number with appropriate foreign country dialling code, preferably the same as one of those numbers that call to tell you to top up your non existent Amazon Prime account with £39.99.
I agree with can anyone challenge it. The possibility that the “infected” person was in the premises hours apart from a person notified and therefor there is no risk, can the person contacted ask the T&T operator more questions to establish their risk? Or, will these questions be answered?
I do not think the T&T operator will have that information, or we are in a scary world.
Do you sometimes get the feeling that you are standing with your finger in a hole in the dyke that is holding back a vast deluge of utter evil?
Don’t take your finger out.
For me, before this ‘crisis’ I thought that democracy via established mechanisms meant we would never get a tyrannical government. How naive I was! I always knew that ‘the people’ could not be relied upon for rationality (witness Princess Di’s funeral), but I never thought that the top of government would work in a kind of hysterical symbiosis with them to create a full-on, proper dystopia in a matter of months.
It took many years for the Berlin wall to come down, we have seen in recent years how corrupt and evil leaders are able to cling on to power against all the odds. All is not lost and things may yet turn.
We must push our MPs to vote for the amendment requiring parliamentary scrutiny of Covid legislation this week.
Even Hapless Hancock can see that dodgy test results are not enough to keep fuelling the madness and he has predicted an exponential rise in hospital cases. Well we had got to quite a low figure and so to start with it did not take much for hospital case numbers to double, but now they are higher it will need an ever greater daily increase to maintain the % rise in hospital cases. I think this week will be quite crucial to showing whether all these dodgy test results are actually resulting in more hospital cases/deaths.
Local hospital went from 0-1 for several weeks, up to 5 over the weekend, proper ill who knows?
Anyone know about anywhere else?
Well, clearly going from 1 to 5 was a 400% increase – lockdown now! /sarc
We won’t take our fingers out, Annie, it is evil what is happening. Sadly some really good people believe the mumbo jumbo. Don’t download the app. It is a con. If you bring your phone into your home you dont want this on it.. I am extremely dubious. I will no longer have a test. Realistically there are about 2 seriously ill people in NSW. That word again ‘complacency’ from our nervous premier. When will they leave us alone.
‘When will they leave us alone’ – well if people switched off their Alexas it would be a start.
A brilliant description. It’s exactly how I feel.
I notice we are back to full covid theatre at the weekend, queues outside supermarkets and empty ambulances being driven around with sirens on.
Not fooling us this time
Actually I wasn’t fooled last time either
Your right I remember being in halifax in april only traffic on the road were ambulances with sirens blasting now I know it was fake
Lots of sirens down here in Bournemouth as well. Really getting tired of hearing them. I’m miles from the hospital so I don’t know why they keep driving up and down like that. There would have to be masses of non-covid issues to justify so many sirens since covid is almost non-existent down here. I’ve noticed more helicopters as well. It’s not like the beaches are crowded now, so I don’t know what they’re up to.
I figured that out about the ambulances second week after lockdown, out and about as key worker.
I learned later that they would send an ambulance to a nearby town to wail around for a bit before going to the next town like a ice cream van.
Can you get a “99 with a flake ?
Here’s a clip of Kary Mullis, the inventor of the PCR test, talking about how it works and what its limitations are.
Apparently the assays used for testing the swabs come with instructions stating that 45 cycles must be used. The normal number of cycles is 30…so, 50% more cycles are needed when running PCR tests for SARS-Cov-2. 50% more amplification. See here for a photo of the instructions.
Listen to the clip. Then digest the fact that 50% more cycles are needed.
As David Brent had printed on his business cards “If It’s In You, I’ll Find It”.
Although 15 cycles doesn’t sound much. 50% increase sounds significant, but what does it really mean. Each cycle doubles the number of strands.
30 cycles is 2 times itself 30 times or approximately 1 BILLION.
45 cycles is 2 times itself 45 times or approximately 32 TRILLION
Did you listen to the audio clip? Very revealing. It can’t tell you if you’re ill…slam dunk. Wanna know if you have HIV? Take a test and spin that muthafucka until you get a positive result.
What word used to be used before the term “cases”?
That’s right “hospital”.
These positive tests come from 50% more spins in the assay which in and of itself doesn’t clinically determine if the tested person is actually ill.
SHUT THE WORLD DOWN!
Can’t remember where I saw it, but I was under the impression 45 cycles is enough to guarantee a false positive (as in, to get a positive result with no RNA strands at all).
Carl Henghan’s paper affirmed it.
That is surely damning evidence!
Do you know which tests these instructions relate to – is it the Pillar 2 ones?
The instructions were sent to Adam Curry by an anonymous lab technician who raised the alarm re the number of cycles.
Describing his time at Wandsworth Police station released after 22 hours Dr Heiko Schoning.
https://twitter.com/BreesAnna/status/1310264160186445825
The full statement already removed by youtube
For some reason I can’t access twitter.com. Is it possible to say briefly what he said that caused him to be censored? That everyone should kiss a policemen when they got the chance – because that’s what he did when he was banged up in the cells?
They took his computer, phone and book (already best seller in German, now published in English and by more than one author, don’t think he is one): Covid 19 False Alarm
The book is written by Dr Karina Reiss and Dr Sucharit Bhakdi. Available in England from 1st October and I ordered mine via website called A great read
Dr Schoning said that the covid emergency had been created to cover up a global financial collapse, to get the bankers off the hook (not blamed like in 2008), and that it was a criminal conspiracy.
That you for this enlightenment. What he said just seems silly. Silliness shouldn’t be censored. Let the chap be heard – not arrested or handcuffed as I think was the case. Voltaire should be followed on this.
Shame the Twitter video cut out just when it was getting interesting. Is the full statement hosted somewhere other than YouTube?
It is still on YT.
Where? The link from Anna Brees’ Twitter post leads to a YouTube page saying “This video has been removed for violating YouTube’s Terms of Service”.
Try here:-
https://brandnewtube.com/watch/heiko-sch%C3%B6ning-after-his-arrest-in-london_8S6cHKiaiKHpsOV.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=275&v=sglQmD3BMSc&feature=emb_logo&ab_channel=ShirinKoohyar
The old Nokia phone is a powerful symbol of how irrelevant Europe is in this massive power struggle.
China and the Democratic Party, WHO, all share the same goal for now: to get rid of Trump.
That ends 03 Nov. WHO loses leverage, the U.S. and China revert to economic priorities
Quite possibly, BCG vaccination will be pushed as a magic bullet for the fearful and everyone comes out from behind the sofa.
Britain’s state apparatus will attempt to maintain an atmosphere of national emergency as cover for Brexit thereafter.
However, post Brexit, the eu’s interest will shift to blaming Britain for all its economic woes, do everything in its power to get a pro eu government elected to reverse Brexit.
By March 2021, this government, the state broadcaster, state health service and inept public sector will be the subject of intense international ridicule, particularly if the Democratic party wins the White House.
The future for our Prime Minister looks bleak. He should start making some friends. He’s going to need them…….and the gallant few who inhabit this site, thought leaders one and all, would not be a bad place to start……
So you’re saying Trump definitely loses..?
I would never say that……It is probably Biden’s to lose at the moment…..but he seems like the kind of guy who could lose it…….
BCG? Why?
According to an article I read (sorry, can’t remember where) it seems to be protective, particularly the BCG-Tokyo variety.
BCG vaccine is already proven to be safe, may prevent covid 19 spread:
‘Our findings suggest that routine infant BCG vaccination coverage in young generation had a significant impact on prevention of local COVID-19 spread in Japan.’
https://www.journalofinfection.com/article/S0163-4453(20)30547-8/fulltext
‘It is hypothesized that BCG vaccination is linked to a less severe manifestation of SARS-CoV-2 in the countries that have it on their regular vaccination schedules. In a study preprint published on MedRxiv.org, a research group states that BCG vaccination is a potential new tool in the fight against COVID-19 [3].
Murdoch Children’s Research Institute has organized BRACE, a Phase 3, two-group, multicenter, open-label, randomized, controlled trial of up to 4170 health care workers in Australian hospitals to determine if BCG vaccination reduces the incidence and severity of COVID-19 during the 2020 pandemic [4]. Primary results are expected in October 2020’
https://www.lifespan.io/road-maps/the-covid-19-roadmap/murdoch-childrens-research-institute-bcg-vaccine
The Democrats seem to have made the same mistakes as last time with regards to Trump and his appeal.
As for Boris making friends, he’s already announced the UK will become the WHOs largest donor