More Pointless, Incomprehensible, Unevidenced Restrictions Imposed on North

The Sunday papers have been trying to get their heads around what Boris is going to announce on Monday, but none of them have the details because the plan is still being thrashed out between Downing Street and regional mayors. The Sunday Times thinks the Government is moving away from its centrally-planned, top-down model towards a more federalist approach, but what local areas will be given control over sounds like pretty small beer.
Mayors will be given more control over the coronavirus test-and-trace system as ministers try to secure their support for tough new local lockdown rules due to be announced tomorrow.
In an admission that the national system is failing, ministers will empower town hall bosses to deploy an army of new local volunteers to knock on doors and ask people to self-isolate.
With COVID-19 running rampant, they want local people to take charge of controlling the spread of the virus in the hope it will generate “community spirit” and “improve compliance”.
Details of the plans were being thrashed out between Downing Street and mayors yesterday amid warnings that immediate action is needed to stop the NHS being swamped in the north of England.
Tomorrow ministers will publish new rules for local lockdowns in areas labelled “medium risk”, “high risk” and “very high risk”.
The Sunday Telegraph thinks pubs and bars are going to be closed in the North-West and North-East – but not restaurants – and people will be told to avoid travelling outside their areas and not to visit other households.
The talks included discussions about deals that would give local leaders greater autonomy over measures and testing in their area in exchange for helping to enforce and explain the rules.
Plans for the third “very high” tier are understood to include guidance asking residents not to travel outside their area other than for specific reasons such as work or education. Local mayors said they expected pubs and bars in these areas to have to close, with restaurants able to remain open until 10pm.
In telephone calls with local leaders, Boris Johnson’s aides also indicated that areas put into the third tier could face bans on multiple households mixing either indoors or outdoors.
Separately, Downing Street is inviting leaders whose areas are due to be in the “very high” tier to request the closure of specific types of hospitality or leisure venues, including beauty salons and sports centres.
That came after acknowledgement that the Government had not done enough to achieve “local buy-in” for some of the existing restrictions faced by areas with high infection rates in the North-East and the North-West.
Meanwhile, local leaders in the North are threatening legal action against the Government for not bunging their regions enough cash to secure their consent to these potty new rules. The Telegraph has more.
Northern leaders have said they “cannot accept” the financial package offered by the Government that will pay two-thirds of the wages of workers at businesses forced to close by local lockdown measures, and may launch a legal challenge.
Speaking at a press conference this afternoon, Andy Burnham, the mayor of Greater Manchester, said that the current financial package would “surrender our residents to hardship and our businesses to potential failure or collapse, and we are not prepared to do that”.
Mr Burnham added that the Chancellor, Rishi Sunak, had told local leaders that the package was “final and non-negotiable”. But the mayor said the package suggested that hospitality workers were “second-class citizens”, given that national furlough was much higher at 80 per cent.
Steve Rotheram, the mayor of Liverpool City region, echoed the comments and said that “imposing new restrictions without providing adequate Government support is simply not acceptable”.
According to the Mail, some Northern mayors are claiming the daily number of cases is beginning to fall.
Data on patients with Covid-19 is not comparable across the UK due to differences in the way the figures are reported.
Separate statistics show almost one in five with the virus in hospital tested positive seven days or more after admission – implying they caught it there.
The findings suggest COVID-19 hospitalisations caused by community outbreaks may not be growing as fast as some fear.
Rises in admissions have been greatest in North West England, say health officials.
But the total number of virus patients in UK hospitals is still a fraction of the peak figure of 19,849 in April.
The latest figures come as local leaders have urged the Government not to punish the North East of England with draconian lockdown restrictions forcing the closure of pubs and bars, as it is claimed the number of daily new coronavirus infections in the region has begun to fall.
Those statistics referred to above were provided by Prof Carl Heneghan and his team, as reported in the Telegraph, and show that up to a quarter of patients currently in hospital with COVID-19 caught the virus after being admitted.
One thing is clear: the authority of the Prime Minister and his Government continues to drain away at an alarming rate.
How much longer can this omnishambles continue?
Hancock Breaks 10pm Curfew in House of Commons Bar and Makes Tasteless Joke

The Mail on Sunday has a belter of a story on its front page. Hancock broke his own Covid rules about not drinking after 10pm and made a crass joke about the failures of the Government’s test and trace programme.
Health Secretary Matt Hancock was last night accused of breaking his own Covid curfew by drinking in a Commons bar beyond 10pm – where he made a crass joke about the Government’s test and trace failings.
Mr Hancock arrived at the bar just before a 9.40pm vote, ordered a glass of white wine and announced: “The drinks are on me – but Public Health England are in charge of the payment methodology so I will not be paying anything.”
His ill-conceived joke came after he had tried to explain to the Commons why the quango had lost nearly 16,000 positive coronavirus tests – a fiasco which Labour claimed had put “lives at risk”.
A senior Tory MP told the Mail on Sunday that Mr Hancock remained in the Smoking Room bar until at least 10.25pm, despite Speaker Sir Lindsay Hoyle insisting that Commons venues must abide by the same 10pm drink-up-and-leave curfew as all English pubs.
Is it time to send a taxi to the Department for Health and Social Care? I wrote in my Spectator column this week that Hancock was only being kept around to serve as Boris’s human shield and it may be time to initiate Operation Scapegoat.
Prophetic?
A Senior Doctor Writes…
A top NHS doctor has been checking the stats and made some interesting observations.
I spent Friday morning (when I should have been operating) running over the PHE released stats up to Oct 1st – they are obviously not up to date but there is quite a lot of info on here, though the data on the complex spreadsheet isn’t as granular as one would like, so definitive conclusions are difficult to draw.
However, there are some interesting findings.
Firstly, the number of people admitted with an already positive test is quite low as a percentage of the whole – about 20% in the last week of September.
Most ‘admissions’ are admitted without a positive test and only become ‘positive’ after two to five days when the test comes back. But about 6% to 9% test positive after eight days in hospital and these may be hospital acquired covid – Hennegan has access to more up to date figures and says in the DT today that this percentage of late positive tests is rising, possibly suggesting more hospital acquired infection.
Some of those positive swabs will be people with covid symptoms – but many are admitted with other things and the positive swab is an incidental finding as they don’t have any covid symptoms – I have heard this from anecdotal discussions, For example every patient admitted (irrespective of the reason for admission) is swabbed on admission, again at five days and weekly thereafter – any positive swab puts them into the ‘covid admission’ column regardless of reason for admission.
So the reported number of covid admissions is not the same as the number of patients with covid symptoms – in some ways it could be the same testing artefact as with the community asymptomatic tests.
The age breakdown of positive swab tests also shows a disparity in the last week of September – the positive admission swabs are skewed to a younger age group. I’m not sure what the significance of this could be as we don’t know if all these admitted patients were symptomatic for covid or not (I suspect not).
I thought the number of daily discharges of covid patients also interesting – there is quite a ‘churn’ of patients in and out of hospital with covid – again this may be asymptomatic patients or people admitted for treatment who get better quickly. Of note is that the percentage of discharges per day is higher in September (15% – 20% per day) than it was in April (8% to 10 % per day) – this might mean that a proportion of these people discharged in September were not covid symptomatic patients – i.e., admitted for routine reasons and discharged with a positive swab as an incidental finding. You can clearly see the ‘weekend effect’ in the sheet (highlighted in red) – it is more marked in September than in April as well.
The percentage of patients on ventilators is pretty constant at between 11% and 13% of the total in September (the figure for Sept 12th is clearly a counting error) – there is no age breakdown on these figs and they are a small proportion of total ventilator available beds. I’m also told that this time round there will be more scrutiny on decision making so that a greater number of patients who have minimal chance of survival will be ventilated (whereas last time round there was a cap on the ceiling of care for people with minimal chance of survival). The percentage of people in ventilated beds in April was a bit higher at about 15-16%. Also note that just because a patient is in a ventilator capable bed, it does NOT necessarily mean that the patient IS ventilated – they could quite easily be on a face mask – its one way of massaging the data… I do know that the ‘planners’ are assuming that we will not be short of ventilators this time and that more patients can be managed by CPAP – this is important as the main issue last time was managing a lot of intubated patients and the lack of ITU nurses – much easier to manage if they aren’t tubed. This has major implications as last time the critical skills shortage in London was ICU nurses. I wrote a paper about it in May suggesting that over the summer we needed to rapidly upskill the junior ICU nursing cohort – predictably, nothing has been done.
The Year the NHS Failed the People of Britain
A GP and regular reader of Lockdown Sceptics has sent me an angry letter about how the NHS has been failing patients since last March. What pushed her over the edge was a brain-dead tweet by the Health Secretary praising the NHS. Here’s the opening section:
I am a UK GP and feel devastated at the catastrophe unfolding before us and the harm that governmental decisions (un-debated, unchallenged and ignoring the evidence) have done. The last straw was Matt Hancock’s October 9th tweet
To which I say, what utter rot. As a GP I know hospital activity is less, because we get fewer inpatient/outpatient letters from them, and many of those we do request us to do tests that they are no longer inclined to do. When I see a patient with life-threatening symptoms they are terrified to go to hospital, fearing Covid. Cancer screening has been suspended, and cancer diagnostic tests are delayed, scanty and often not the optimal tests – I am already aware of delayed cancer diagnoses and treatment. Outpatient waits for people with disabling, unstable, chronic conditions have soared. Mental health services are overwhelmed with little face-to-face contact. We continue to see people but the ‘guidance’ from up above makes us triage everyone, limit numbers in our waiting room, wear masks, wipe things down and this significantly slows our throughput. This is made worse by our having key staff frequently and suddenly absent due to requirement to isolate should their child, as children do, get a transient cough. Despite this, in our large practice, not a single one of us has been diagnosed with Covid, despite our likely contact in the earlier days of the pandemic. The evidence for these heightened hygiene measures are non-existent – we have never done it in high flu prevalence years, and it should be noted they are not preventing a continued ‘average’ stream of flu deaths at present, which by far exceed current deaths from Covid. Two metre separation is entirely arbitrary and I have read no compelling evidence regarding cloth masks, yet plenty, including from the British Medical Journal, to indicate they increase risk. My experience is that they constrain communication and invoke fear.
Worth reading in full.
Latest Polling Data: Public Still Gulled
I got an email yesterday afternoon from Opinium with its latest polling data. pretty depressing reading, although support for the 10pm curfew is falling.
Overall, the public support the latest COVID-19 restrictions. Seven in ten (72%) support the notion that people should work from home wherever possible, 71% agree that face masks should be compulsory for bar staff and non-seated customers, shop workers and waiters and 70% agree with the introduction of table service only in bars, restaurants and pubs.
There are lower levels of support for a potential “circuit breaker” lockdown where hospitality venues close for a short period (58%) and continuing the “rule of six” and limits on socialising over Christmas (55%). Meanwhile 44% support pubs, bars and restaurants closing at 10pm (vs. 27% opposing), almost half (49%) support limiting guests at wedding from 30 to 15. Two-thirds also support fines for not wearing masks or following rules increasing to £200 for first offence
There has however been a drop in the number of people who support the 10pm closure of pubs, bars and restaurants. A fortnight ago, 58% supported the measure while 16% opposed. This week, 44% supported this measure while 27% oppose.
In line with the above, people are continuing to err on the side of caution when it comes to the measures in place. Half (53%) lean towards the view that coronavirus threatens a large number of lives and we need strong measures in place to keep us safe. On the other hand, 24% lean more towards the belief that the measures in place are too damaging and we need to learn to live with Coronavirus for the time being. The vast majority of people (88%) are still generally or strictly following the rules.
Boris’s Willing Executioners

We like to tell ourselves that Hitler could never have risen to power Britain. But seeing vast numbers of the British public leap at the opportunity to become Covid enforcers and informants has put paid to that myth. It could have happened here. Bella Wallersteiner, a Lockdown Sceptics reader and Parliamentary assistant, has written an original piece for us today about the creeping authoritarianism that the Covid pandemic has given rise to. Here’s the opening section:
It has been nearly 31 years since the Berlin Wall came down to reveal 69 miles of files amassed by the Ministry of State Security (Stasi) as it spied on more than 5.6 million citizens of the former German Democratic Republic. The archive holds films, photographs, recordings of phone conversations, mind-blowingly tedious reports of mundane conversations and interactions between neighbours and even samples of sweat collected by punctilious officers hoping to win a medal or promotion. We have a supercilious and unfounded belief that British citizens would act differently and rise above compliance with an authoritarian state. Do we not cherish individualism, freedom of speech and make fun of our politicians?
Evidence from the first month of lockdown suggests that many of us harbour an inner Stasi: in April the UK Police received 194,000 calls from members of the public snitching on neighbours alleged to have broken lockdown rules by making an unnecessary journey, going for more than one walk a day or checking on a second home. So much for the doughty spirit of British non-conformity and defiant anti-authoritarianism.
More recently, the police arrested 32 protesters at the Resist and Act for Freedom Rally in Trafalgar Square on September 19th. The media focused almost entirely on the lunatic fringe of anti-vaxxers and 5G conspiracy theorists and chose to ignore the majority of the protesters who turned up for a peaceful demonstration with banners and placards proclaiming “This is now Tyranny” and chanting “Freedom!”
Worth reading in full.
Joint Letter in Times From Matt Ridley and Others
There was an excellent “we, the undersigned” letter in the Times yesterday written by a clutch of peers, including Matt Ridley. It’s exactly the same message as the Great Barrington Declaration.
Sir, It is now clear that a policy of lockdown failed to bring the virus under control while having crippling economic and social side effects. Sweden has achieved a lower death rate from COVID-19 than the UK, with far less economic and social damage, despite being a slightly more urbanised society. If lockdown were a treatment undergoing a clinical trial, the trial would be halted because of the side effects. We suggest the Government try a new approach, more in keeping with the Conservative philosophy of individual responsibility. Anyone who wishes to be locked down, whether because they are vulnerable or for other reasons, should be supported in doing so safely. Anyone who wishes to resume normal life, and take the risk of catching the virus, should be free to do so. The choice would be ours.
Lord Ridley; Lord Cavendish of Furness; Lord Dobbs; Lord Hamilton of Epsom; Lord Howard of Rising; Lord Lamont of Lerwick; Lord Lilley; Lord Mancroft; Baroness Meyer; Baroness Noakes; Lord Robathan; Lord Shinkwin
Free Speech Under Attack

I’ve been busy over the last few days defending my friend Darren Grimes, the journalist who’s been threatened with arrest by the police because of things Dr David Starkey said when Darren interviewed him at the end of June. I’m pleased to say Darren is a member of the Free Speech Union so we’ve been able to arrange pro bono legal support in the form of a top flight criminal solicitor called Luke Gittos. You can read about this outrageous assault on press freedom in the Mail. The support for Darren has been almost universal, and his defenders include an ex-Home Secretary as well as the current one. I’d be amazed if the police don’t drop this like a hot potato. This should never have been a police matter.
But there are three other recent victims of censorship I wanted to draw your attention to and urge you to sign the petitions supporting them.
The first is a petition expressing support for Bruce Gilley, a professor of political science at Portland State, who has been cancelled for the second time in three years. In 2017, the editors of Third World Quarterly, an academic journal, started getting death threats after publishing an essay by Professor Gilley called “The Case For Colonialism” and promptly deleted it from their website. Now, the same thing’s happened again. He has written a book about Sir Alan Burns, a post-war colonial governor who argued that Britain was decolonising too quickly, that was due to be published by Rowman & Littlefield this month. However, the publishers have now decided not to go ahead after a petition objecting to the book was started by Joshua Moufawad-Paul, a self-described “Maoist”. Even though the petition hasn’t even managed to scrape up 1,000 signatures, it was too much for the panty-waists at Rowman & Littlefield. Professor Gilley has written about the episode for the Wall St Journal. Please sign the petition to show your solidarity with him.
The second is a petition in support of Mark Crispin Miller, a professor in NYU’s Department of Media, Culture and Communication, who got into trouble for urging his students to review all the scientific studies on the effectiveness of wearing masks, including those suggesting they’re ineffective that Google has shadow-banned. This was for a class he teaches on propaganda. One of his students made a flurry of complaints, claiming he was endangering public health, and as a result the university has asked him not to teach his propaganda class next term. Please sign this petition to express your support for academic freedom.
Finally, a petition has been started urging The Hist, a society at Trinity College, Dublin, to reissue its invitation to the biologist Richard Dawkins after he was no-platformed last month. The College Historical Society – known as the Hist – recently disinvited Professor Richard Dawkins on the grounds that things he’d said on Twitter about Islam and sexual assault would make the members feel uncomfortable. I wrote a letter in my capacity as General Secretary of the Free Speech Union to the head of the Hist on 30th September, urging her to honour the original invitation, but so far she hasn’t replied. Please sign this petition, which makes the same request.
Is it Time to Retire the “Bedwetter” Jibe?

I got an email from an elderly gentleman who thinks our use of the term “bedwetters” to describe those who are excessively concerned about catching COVID-19 – and think the rest of us should be too – is unacceptable.
I am very grateful for Lockdown Sceptics and often find myself (a) wishing to refer other people to items published on the site, and (b) wishing to make a financial contribution. But, unfortunately, I find myself unable to do either of these things for the following reason…
You frequently use the term “bedwetter” as a term of disapprobation. I agree that those to whom you apply the term deserve the disapproval, and very possibly also a measure of disdain, but surely you can see that the epithet “bedwetter” — which, after all, denotes a rather distressing disability, whether of mind or body or both — really cannot be an acceptable way of expressing this in civilised discourse.
I am old enough that I can remember when the designations “spastic” or “spaz” were considered acceptable ways of mocking other people’s clumsiness or physical incompetence. I think it’s fair to say that pretty much everybody in civilised modern societies now understands that that is simply not on. I fail to see why mocking someone’s excessive timidity using the epithet “bedwetter” is any different.
I hope I have persuaded you to change your ways. If so, please publish something on the site saying that you intend to do so, and why (I have no objection to your quoting what I have written, although I definitely do not wish my name to be published), and send me a link to that item on the site. If on the other hand you publish something about this on the site, prefaced with “A Bedwetter Writes …”, then I shall know what to conclude!
What do people think? Is it time to retire this insult?
Round-Up
- “Global perspective of COVID‐19 epidemiology for a full‐cycle pandemic” – New paper by Professor John Ioannidis. Been peer reviewed. He estimates the global infections fatality rate at between 0.15% and 0.2% and recommends a targeted, precise approach to managing the pandemic
- “Three Quarters of People with SARS-CoV-2 Infection are Asymptomatic: Analysis of English Household Survey Data” – New paper from a couple of boffins at UCL
- “COVID-19: A Data Driven Reality Check” – Ramesh Thakur, former Assistant General Secretary of the UN and a Professor at the Australian National University, sets out the case against lockdowns
- “Still think Johnson cares about liberty? I have a bridge to sell you” – Michael Curzon in Bournbrook Magazine isn’t happy with the PM
- James Delingpole Interviews the Fat Emperor – James’s guest on the Delingpod this week is Ivor Cummins, leading lockdown sceptic
- “Ireland and Europe’s Viral Outlook – what does the Latest Data say?” – And here’s Ivor’s latest YouTube video
- “Stop scaring us into an economic abyss” – Stuart Rose, the Chairman of Ocado, urges the Government to stop pumping out death porn propaganda, scrap the 10pm curfew and let us all get on with our lives
- “Schoolchildren are banned from singing Happy Birthday in the classroom over fears it could spread coronavirus” – What utter nonsense
- “If anyone tries to force apart mourners at my funeral, I’ll be back to haunt them!” – Peter Hitchens in the Mail on Sunday on the cruelty of not letting people comfort one another at funerals
- “A SARS-CoV-2 vaccine – don’t hold your breath” – Dr Malcolm Kendrick warns that vaccines are being rushed through and will almost certainly be ineffective
- Review of Cynical Theories – Dr David Butterfield, a Senior Lecturer in Classics at Cambridge, reviews James Lindsay and Helen Pluckrose’s book for Don’t Divide Us
- “Boris Johnson becoming ‘new Maggie’ as coronavirus lockdown rules cripple the North” – The Mirror doesn’t mean this as a compliment
- “COVID GESTAPO: Boris Orders Marshals To Target Weddings and Pubs Wearing Body Cameras” – Politicalite has the details”
- “‘He became a hero’: Bolsonaro sees popularity surge as COVID-19 spreads” – Disobliging piece about Bolsonaro by the Guardian‘s “Global development” team which, according to a disclaimer, is supported by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation
- “Is the ‘cure’ worse than Covid? Driven to despair by lockdown, two of Professor Angus Dalgleish’s colleagues took their own lives… and compelled him to join a growing rebellion against Cromwellian restrictions” – Excellent piece by rogue prof
- “Anti-face mask protesters chant ‘Freedom’ as they descend on Downing Street to demand end to lockdown” – Article in the Sun about yesterday’s protest outside Downing Street
- “Students arrive at Bristol Uni wearing hazmat suits after 300 freshers told to isolate in halls” – I thought this would be a story about an amusing rag week stunt. But no. Bedwetters, apparently
- “Ex-BBC star Sue Cook, 71, accuses broadcaster of unbalanced Covid coverage and pushing too hard to shut down UK by forever ‘wheeling out’ ‘Professor Lockdown’ Neil Ferguson over other scientists” – Excellent intervention from former Crimewatch host. Sounds like she’d make a good witness in the Free Speech Union’s Judicial Review of Ofcom’s “coronavirus guidance”
- “Spanish way of life at risk in Madrid as second lockdown threatens to kill off restaurants” – Depressing piece in the Telegraph
- “End of the liner – cruise dreams lie rusting at the shipbreakers” – The Times reveals that vast holiday vessels are being scrapped off the coast of Turkey, their pianos given away as presents
- “Professor Sunetra Gupta on the Perils of Disease Modelling” – Prophetic piece written by Prof Sunetra Gupta nearly 20 years ago about the hubris of mathematical modellers
- “WHO (Accidentally) Confirms Covid is No More Dangerous Than Flu” – The WHO’s Head of Health Emergencies Program “best estimates” put IFR of Covid at 0.14%
- “This crisis is tearing apart the underpinnings of Western democracy” – Janet Daly is at her wit’s end in the Telegraph
- “Did the lockdown work in Wuhan?” – Good blog post by George Dance
- “Average age of coronavirus fatalities is 82” – The Times reveals that the average age of Covid fatalities is 82.4
Theme Tunes Suggested by Readers
Two today: “Gimme Some Truth” by John Lennon and “The North Will Rise Again” by the Fall.
Love in the Time of Covid

We have created some Lockdown Sceptics Forums, including a dating forum called “Love in a Covid Climate” that has attracted a bit of attention. We have a team of moderators in place to remove spam and deal with the trolls, but sometimes it takes a little while so please bear with us. You have to register to use the Forums, but that should just be a one-time thing. Any problems, email the Lockdown Sceptics webmaster Ian Rons here.
Sharing stories: Some of you have asked how to link to particular stories on Lockdown Sceptics. The answer used to be to first click on “Latest News”, then click on the links that came up beside the headline of each story. But we’ve changed that so the link now comes up beside the headline whether you’ve clicked on “Latest News” or you’re just on the Lockdown Sceptics home page. Please do share the stories with your friends and on social media.
“Mask Exempt” Lanyards

We’ve created a one-stop shop down here for people who want to buy (or make) a “Mask Exempt” lanyard/card. You can print out and laminate a fairly standard one for free here and it has the advantage of not explicitly claiming you have a disability. But if you have no qualms about that (or you are disabled), you can buy a lanyard from Amazon saying you do have a disability/medical exemption here (takes a while to arrive). The Government has instructions on how to download an official “Mask Exempt” notice to put on your phone here. You can get a “Hidden Disability” tag from ebay here and an “exempt” card with lanyard for just £1.49 from Etsy here. And, finally, if you feel obliged to wear a mask but want to signal your disapproval of having to do so, you can get a “sexy world” mask with the Swedish flag on it here.
Don’t forget to sign the petition on the UK Government’s petitions website calling for an end to mandatory face nappies in shops here.
A reader has started a website that contains some useful guidance about how you can claim legal exemption.
And here’s a round-up of the scientific evidence on the effectiveness of mask (threadbare at best).
Stop Press: The Chair of the BMA, Dr Chaand Nagpaul, has urged the Government to make masks mandatory in all outdoor settings and indoor settings. He also said alcohol sales should be restricted in England, just as they now are in Scotland. What else, Dr Feelbad? A ban on sweets? Whistling to be made illegal because it might spread the virus? The same GP who’s written the angry letter we’ve published on Lockdown Sceptics today has sent us another email about this codswallop.
I am a member of the BMA and no-one has asked the membership what they think. As far as I can see, this is the BMA Chair going unilaterally off piste and making an unevidenced dictat. I note neither he, nor anyone on SAGE, has cited any reliable randomised control trials to indicate they will make a blind bit of difference.
The Great Barrington Declaration

If you Google “Great Barrington Declaration”, the top hit you get is a smear piece in the Byline Times, an obscure, online magazine that traffics in left-wing conspiracy theories. One of the three videos linked to at the top of the results page is an interview with Devi Sridhar telling Channel 4 News that the Declaration is not “scientific”. That’s rich considering the three main signatories – Professor Sunetra Gupta, Professor Martin Kulldorff and Professor Jay Bhattacharya – are all eminent scientists, whereas Devi has a PhD is in social anthropology. If you continue scrolling through the Google search results, you cannot find a link to the Declaration. It has been shadow banned. Discussion of the it has also been censored by Reddit.
You can find it here. Please sign it. It now has over 200,000 signatories – no thanks to Google or Reddit. On the contrary, the attempt to suppress it is having a Streisand effect. I spoke to Jeffrey Tucker yesterday, Editorial Director of the American Institute for Economic Research, which hosted the scientific conference at its headquarters in Great Barrington that led to the Declaration. He told me the website that hosts the petition experienced 10,000 denial-of-service attacks within the first few hours of going live. Pro-lockdown zealots on social media have been encouraging their followers to sign the petition with names like “Dr Bananas” in order to discredit it, keeping Jeffrey and his staff busy as they go through the signatories, weeding out the fakes. But these sophomoric attempts to discredit it have backfired. The petition just keeps gathering momentum.
Stop Press: The Declaration now has over 250,000 signatures, including over 7,000 medical and public health scientists and more than 20,000 medical practitioners.
Google Update: The correct link does now come up in the first page of Google searches in Google UK. I hope I played a small part in persuading the tech giant to reconsider. I tweeted about it yesterday and that tweet got more than 9,000 likes and among those replying to it, endorsing the Great Barrington Declaration strategy, was Elon Musk, a lockdown sceptic with ~40 million followers.
Samaritans

If you are struggling to cope, please call Samaritans for free on 116 123 (UK and ROI), email jo@samaritans.org or visit the Samaritans website to find details of your nearest branch. Samaritans is available round the clock, every single day of the year, providing a safe place for anyone struggling to cope, whoever they are, however they feel, whatever life has done to them.
Shameless Begging Bit
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And Finally…
This YouTube video about the way politicians try and shame their opponents into accepting ever rising levels of sate interference in their lives is brilliant.









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Well what do you know!!!😊
Now I’ll read.
Forward to your MPs – It’s better than doing nothing
‘STOP locking-down to control Covid’: Britain’s WHO envoy pleads with world leaders to stop using lockdowns as their ‘primary’ means of tackling virus because it is ‘doubling’ global poverty
Dr Davie Nabarro blasted lockdowns as ‘primary means of controlling Covid-19’
WHO envoy said world poverty would ‘double’ by 2021 as a result of lockdowns
His calls echo growing concerns of scientists who oppose lockdown measures
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8825949/Coronavirs-UK-Britains-envoy-tells-government-stop-locking-down.html
World Health Organization Tells Leaders To End The Lockdowns
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4PuvmWqp4k&list=WL&index=150
WHO call lockdowns “a catastrophe” -.
I guess that’s a good step, though I worry what they propose instead – Test,Track & Trace, vaccine & health passports?
“WHO call lockdowns a catastrophe”
First sensible words from WHO since pre-BMGF days.
Nabarro for sidelining?
So now YouTube must ban anything pro-lockdown?
My guess is they are realising that making billions from vaccines doesn’t do you much good if it’s in the context of a Mad Max landscape.
I can only see this as an attempt to undermine national governments in order to install ‘their’ governmental structures. Call me a cynic but this kind of shit stinks of the NWO creep to me.
Replace national governments with WHO government structures. How could you tell the difference ?
Good point. I guess I meant the illusion of change!
What an idiotic comment.
Interesting point!
The WHO woman who said the mask u-turn had been due to political pressure hasn’t been heard from since.
Watch this space and wait for any response to Nabarro. Should tell us how the land lies.
because local despots wielding regional control over local conditions under global oversight will be much more in your face.
He must be censored!!!!!
Great idea. Done.
So the WHO start the panic with dodgy mortality rate figures and praising the China response and NOW they’re saying this?
This is going to end so very very badly…
As I Walked Out Van Morrison Gets straight to the point about lockdown https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFOaiWTfvOk “As I Walked Out” As I walked out all the streets were empty The government said everyone should stay hope And they spread fear and loathing and no hope for the future Not many did question this very strange move Well, on the government website from the 21st March 2020 It said COVID-19 was no longer high risk Then two days later they put us under lockdown Then why are we not being told the truth? By all the media outlets and the government lackeys Why is this not big news, why is it being ignored? Why no checks and balances, why no second opinions? Why are they working, and why are we not? As I walked out all the streets were empty The government said everyone should stay hope And they spread fear and loathing and no hope for the future Not many did question this very strange move But on the government website from the 21st March 2020 It said COVID-19 was no longer high risk Then two days later Boris put us under lockdown Why are we not being told the truth? By… Read more »
Simple, but effective, well done Van the Man.
The British Medical Association want us to wear masks outdoors, also backed by a SAGE member. This is the usual rhetoric leading to mandation. The Daily Mail readership are none to happy judging by the comments.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8825843/Coronavirus-UK-Doctors-say-masks-mandatory-inside-outside.html
04.30 Sunday. Almost the entire first page of comments sceptical except
“If you use the NHS you should do as you are told”, voted down 57-1.
Let them bring it on say I. We all see the confirmed facenappers (h/t thinkaboutit) who voluntarily wear masks outdoors. Then there are those who do not wear them when they ‘should’, either because exempt, careless or sheer bloody mindedness.
We need to identify the third group, those that ‘work to rule’ by slipping them on as they enter a shop but ripping them off as soon as they leave. It is obvious they hate the bloody things but go along with it because.
Obliging them to submit whenever outside would make many of them come out full on Sceptic.
The BMA is a trade union which exists to protect its members; both from the virus, and from legal cases from people who have been denied treatment for life-threatening diseases and the relatives of those who have died. They know that ‘masks’ outside are bollocks; they are trying to cover their backs.
I intend to break the law on this so it would be useful to know of sceptical solicitors who would take the case.
I’m a non-mask wearer and as I’m deliberately breaking the law, I wouldn’t dream of claiming an exemption. I don’t mind if I DO get arrested. A criminal record at my age (50-something) when the naughtiest thing I’ve ever done is go at 38 mph in a 30 zone on a Sunday afternoon would be rather fun, I think. And I don’t have a career to wreck or anything.
My husband isn’t a practising lawyer but he can offer advice and point you in the right direction if necessary.
If you look at the guidelines, you’ll see that EVERYONE can legally claim exemption anyway.
Bring it on. I too feel that will be the final straw. I’m surprised the indoor mandate wasn’t, but it did have a sort of logic, if wrong. There is absolutely ZERO justification for wearing a mask outdoors, unless you live in an area with very high diesel smut pollution.
Easy to prove outdoor mask wearing is about control, not health.
I wonder how many of the people who believe “if you use the NHS you should do as you are told” are fat?
I think it was someone being mischievous to wind up the Mail readers.
Yep, this is the usual route.
Watch out of the Daily Telegraph “leak” then the policy appearing in Scotland.
Usually hits the UK in a week or two.
Yes, it could be something like, MacFishface saying she’ll relax lockdowm 2, but in return, we all have to cover up everywhere. Then Nanny Boris follows a couple of weeks later.
For anyone living in a rural area like I do, wherever in the UK, it will be interesting to see how many walkers, dog walkers etc will actually cover their faces.
Could be depressing!
I was looking at the parliamentary petitions yesterday, the ones that are “calling for” masks have a TINY amount of signatures. ABSOLUTELY PUNY, like 500 odd signatures. In fact a lot of them “calling for” harsher measures have pathetic support. It shows the government pay no attention to petitions and do what they want.
They probably pay attention but choose to ignore them.
It isn’t the BMA. As the GP points out today, BMA members haven’t been consulted about this. It’s just the Chair flying a kite.
Having wrapped itself round a power line with luck. The great restart.
Very interesting, The BMA is the trade union and professional body for doctors in the UK.
A trade union is an association of workers forming a legal unit or legal personhood, usually called a “bargaining unit”, which acts as bargaining agent and legal representative for a unit of employees in all matters of law or right arising from or in the administration of a collective agreement.
I guess it is not that uncommon for trade unions to push their own agendas, but I would not expect that from a Professional body.
I’m thinking of sending the following to the BMA. (Yesterday somebody supplied the email address as media_affairs@bma.org.uk)
Dear BMA
Sometimes a reasoned argument is the best approach, but at other times a more direct statement is appropriate.
You can stuff your stinking mask up your shitty arse, then ram it down your throat till you choke.
Now fuck off.
Yours sincerely
Boris Handcock
I emailed them your last two words. Seemed sufficient to me.
Did the same myself told them to Foxtrot Oscar!!
Ironically, bringing this in could be beneficial.
What better way of waking up the apathetic sheep? I have been trying to convince people of the real reasons for this virus charade – 4th industrial revolution, total surveillance, WEF & Great Reset, agenda 2030 totalitarianism via digital immunity passports etc. and nothing registers. ‘What if you had to wear a mask outside?’… Answer : ‘well that’s different’
God save us all if the majority comply though…
Is Scaredypants acceptable ?
An insult that describes what they actually do would work.
Facenappers?
I like that 😷🏅
Maskholes
The Gagged.
Although such a term is fine amongst ourselves, I feel that it will probably make it more difficult to convert anyone who might feel offended. Remember it is the fault of the incessant propaganda on those that do not regularly look for alternatives to the MSM.
The comments this lady has regarding masks might make people think twice about using them:-
https://www.facebook.com/MargaretLMackay/videos/2692093274337482/
We have a preponderance of scientific, anecdotal, medical and economic opinions on our side. They don’t seem to be able to gain converts at any rate.
Are you saying it’s because we’ve adopted a pejorative term for the enemy?
Give me strength.
I’ve never felt using bedwetters was fine.
Incontinence is a very distressing condition that affects thousands of unfortunates for various reasons, some due to trauma, some medical – including botched operations.
It should not be used in ridicule.
You have no idea how ridiculously insipid you sound.
And it’s damn funny, by the way, as most serious things involving health complications surely are if you don’t take yourself or others terribly seriously to begin with. My gramma could laugh about it, and plenty of burdened adults can handle their emotions just fine. Enough of this effeminate moralizing!
As a person who has to self catheterise I understand your point but think bedwetters is apt
Coronanists, mask debaters
I’m partial to ‘Pueyoistas’, but perhaps that’s too obscure.
Someone on here a few days ago suggested “Branch Covidians” because of the cult-like religious zeal.
Brilliant!
Suppressionists.
They want to suppress the virus.
They suppress daily life.
They suppress the economy.
They suppress the health service.
They suppress socialising.
They suppress student life.
They suppress common sense.
They suppress debate.
Just COLLABORATORS!
Or Maskateers?
Actually, let’s just continue using ‘bedwetters’. It’s far easier than having a multiplicity of terms and filling up this forum with imaginative ways to be disparaging, however clever they may be. Because the new disparaging term may well be cancel-cultured too.
More importantly, to retain the term we have used since the start of this panicdemic supports free speech.
Quite. The enemy would be very happy that we’re arguing amongst ourselves about what – ahem – watered down pejorative to apply to our nemesis.
Why not use a word which in itself is inoffensive but only becomes offensive when used in context. My suggestion would be “Hancock”.
Example:
“Did you see Fred in his hazmat suit?”
“Yeah, he’s a right Hancock he is.”
OR,
“Just been to the pub and they’re all masked up.”
“Yeah, they’re all Hancocks in there.”
I generally call them what they are: hypochondriacs….
We’re not talking censorship here, merely the choice of something more appropriate.
Falklands warriors were forbidden to call the islanders Bennys (thicko from Coronation St or Crossroads? ).
An Officer later queried
“What do you mean by calling them ‘Stills’?”
‘Still Bennys Sah!’.
They banned that as well, so they became “Andies”.
And ‘ey’re still Bennies…
Norfolk Nunu-bugs?
Berkshire Hunts?
I think the term “bedwetter” is perfectly acceptable … and in fact applies to the “gentlemen” who wrote to complain … its no different than saying someone is “drunk” with power … serious adults know you don’t mean they are actually “drunk” or an alcoholic … the writer is not a serious adult and frankly BS’ing about being a fan of the site …
Outbreaks of prudishness are just as deadly to fun as the ‘rona. Bedwetters ALWAYS find a way!
Agree
Quite. Anyone can see that bedwetter is a mockery of infantile cowardice, not of actual bed-wetting associated with early youth or old age. There’s hardly a more polite description for them either. If some old git really wants to stop reading LS because he dislikes its use of the pejorative, I’d say he was cutting off his nose to spite his face.
Well said, Ben. Given how close our hand basket is to hell, what true sceptic has the time or the energy to nitpick such a triviality?
Where is Dr Jordan Peterson?, a man whose favourite book is the The Gulag Archipelago (a warning about doing nothing when facing tyranny). He even wrote the forward to the most recent reprint last year. The explantion for his total silence is that he has had a breakdown due to the death of his wife, If I were a suspicious person I would say how convenient. “What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?” “If only there were evil people somewhere insidiously committing evil deeds, and it were necessary only… Read more »
His illness started long before C-19.
Indeed, he has. He’s been in Russia for specialist treatment and his opponents were clearly overjoyed by his suffering.
Like those of Mr Trump with the Covid.
It was seeing one of Dr. Petersons videos with the front cover of The Gulag Archipelago as its little picture icon (?) that first led me to his YouTube site.
I read Solzhenitsyn when 14-15 which confirmed and extended my understanding of what totalitarianism meant.
From what I gather neither that book nor One Day In The Life Of Ivan Denisovich are currently taught in UK universities.
Bizarrely he Dr Peterson sought treatment for his breakdown in Russia and the last I heard was a short video from his daughter saying he was well but resting.
Not so bizarre if the treatment was not available elsewhere. i can see the day when we’re flying to Moscow for a filling in that front tooth.
Will the NHS be saving any of our money by not actually doing anything ?
A year since I last had a dental check up due 1 in may , the practice cancelled it but assured me that it would be re arranged for a few weeks time?
An excellent and subtle question! I sometimes wonder if the prolongation of the incarceration is just the medics panicking that we’ll spot that their pills and potions don’t work much of the time.
Jordan Peterson was really the first to take on the woke brigade in 2016 when he took a stance against Canadian human rights legislation that prohibits discrimination based on gender identity or expression. He was especially frustrated with the requirement to use alternative pronouns as demanded by trans students or staff, which he recognised as an affront to free speech.
It is very sad he is not well enough to challenge what is going on today, he would be making such an important contribution towards ending this nonsense.
He seems to be recovering slowly. Diazepam is a hell of a drug.
Very effective and quite good fun if you can stick to just using it for a week as I once did 30 years ago to get over an alcohol episode.
Had me crying over The Waltons ffs.
I second that. Including the bit about Dr Lector.
I’m a Nurse of 33 years standing.I haven’t treated an ‘active case’ since April.I’m appalled and frustrated by this ongoing farce.Active or passive resistance is the only way forward.I forgot the British public was gelded many years ago.
Good one.
Not normally one for conspiracy theories but it occured to me that perhaps Curfew itself is the whole point.
Repressive regimes generally impose curfews once Civil Unrest is getting out of hand.
With most of the population being interred at home for three months any lesser measures seem relatively liberal. We had a few months of this relative liberality before the government started its creeping second lockdown with Leicester.
If it had faced a backlash it could easily have retreated. Backlash there was none and so they creep ever onwards even though local lockdowns have no effect on the now fake Pandemic.
Come March we will have accepted a 10.30 complete curfew since there’s nothing to do after then anyway.
Those permitted to work will will have to go straight there and back with perhaps a stop in a shop.
Each block of 30-50 households will comprise a Superbubble each with its resident Safety Marshal whose permission must be sort to contact anyone from a different Superbubble.
With that firmly in place what measures could a malign government led by President Tobias Elwood not take ?
Not a conspiracy theory anymore, there is a conspiracy to take away our freedoms.
No government gives back freedoms willingly.
Reference your comment about “Safety Marshals”:
“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?… The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If…if…We didn’t love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation…. We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”
– Solzhenitsyn, “The Gulag Archipelago”
Precisely Richard
https://dailysceptic.org/letter-from-a-gp/
I could really feel her anger as I read this; I was pretty angry myself.
This letter should be on the front page of every national newpaper.
Print it off and put it in the letterbox of local GP practises and schools
Good idea.
I’m supposed to be seeing my GP at his surgery this week (cancelled by surgery 3 times already).
First stop will be him; I’ll take a copy with me.
What made me even more angry is that this GP has written this letter after receiving letters from NHS about his health problems. It is now affecting him personally.
He didn’t write a letter before the restrictions affected him personally.
I’ll admit I did wonder about that, too, but I was prepared to give the benefit of doubt.
My wife, on the other hand, thinks exactly as you do.
Re: the opinion poll story.
I’m not really surprised by the figures, given that the majority of respondents probably get their ‘facts’ and figures from the BBC TV news and website.
Opinion polls are not reliable. Let’s see if/how much they change as unemployment climbs towards ten million.
Agreed about unreliability, but I think/hope attitudes will change dramatically after Bojo/Handjob announce their new shutdown on Monday.
I doubt they’ll change. Quite a few people at work seem to have fallen for the govt blame the people strategy. ‘Its everyone’s fault for not following lockdown’, they usually change their tune once I point out a few facts, but I fear the damage is done.
We also don’t know how many of these “polls” are rigged. Remember that the government was (allegedly) getting over 90% support in the early days. We’ve come a long way since then.
Just one more push…
They’re conducted by the usual suspects- YouGov or Ipsos Mori and are never reliable. I’ve long suspected that they’re rigged or outright faked.
The tune will change once unemployment and bankruptcy beckons. As is tax raids on pensions and savings.
Please Forward to your MPs – It’s better than doing nothing
‘STOP locking-down to control Covid’: Britain’s WHO envoy pleads with world leaders to stop using lockdowns as their ‘primary’ means of tackling virus because it is ‘doubling’ global poverty
Dr Davie Nabarro blasted lockdowns as ‘primary means of controlling Covid-19’
WHO envoy said world poverty would ‘double’ by 2021 as a result of lockdowns
His calls echo growing concerns of scientists who oppose lockdown measures
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8825949/Coronavirs-UK-Britains-envoy-tells-government-stop-locking-down.html
World Health Organization Tells Leaders To End The Lockdowns
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4PuvmWqp4k&list=WL&index=150
WHO call lockdowns “a catastrophe” -.
Glad that even the WHO have turned.
A Bedwetter wetting himself over the use of a perfectly descriptive word in a non-literal and surgically-poetically-precise way?
He can go wet himself, he can
Sounds like something a ‘wetter would say.
We’re gonna need a thicker ply!
Hang in there guys.
Lockdown is disappearing where I live.
I see people going to my neighbours houses all the time.
Masks not in shops
People are now fed up it all.
Sweet words!
We look to the sturdy northerners to kick over the traces. Once mass non-compliance starts, all the Fascists will be able to do is call in the tanks. That will make them look really, really good, won’t it?
I’m afraid that I live in the north and as a southerner here for years I’ve been called a soft southerner by northerners, yet my experience now where I live is that they are nearly all going along with it with very limited resistance. Sturdiness isn’t a term I’d use given what I’ve seen!
I’ll tell you how good it will look, because one of two things will happen.
Firstly, the officer commanding tanks, troops, etc, will query what his rules of engagement are. If none have been given, he will be unable to command his troops to open fire. They are unlikely to even leave their barracks in this scenario.
Secondly, if such rules of engagement have been given, the same officer will weigh up several options. After the events of the past few years, one thing will be at the forefront of his mind: What are the chances at some point in the future, that I and my men will be prosecuted? At this point, they will return to barracks if, indeed, they ever left them at all.
I doubt very much that a single round will be fired. And the government will be left with a lot of egg, shells and all, on their faces.
I take your point but it didn’t work for Jean Charles de Menezes.
The army, unlike the Police, are not trained to regard the public as the enemy.
Agreed. It’s difficult to be sure of anything nowadays, but I am as sure as I can be that British troops would never fire on British people. It’s not like Tienanmen Square where my understanding is that troops were brought in from other parts of China who wouldn’t feel much affinity with Beijing people.
The officers would also consider the effect of any such policy on morale. Ordering troops to fire on civilians, their compatriots, and possibly friends, family and neighbours, would be something that would be likely to undermine military discipline.
There is precedence for this.
During the last days of the Soviet Union the Communist old guard tried to use the army to attack Boris Yeltsin in the Moscow Parliament building.
The Speznatz special forces were ordered to join the attack but they held a vote and decided not to….the rest as they say, is history.
AGREED.
Are you in a lockdown area ?
Which area, please?
Yes, and also minimal compliance. Can smell the change coming now. Buy popcorn, enjoy the show.
It’s not a tasteless joke… Just a moment of truth. Who knows, maybe he’s beginning to doubt a bit as well?
So… I always took “bedwetter” as a term implying that the person was behaving like an infant (as young children were the bed), rather than mockery of incontinence.
Anti lockdown demo fairly reported in Local Live (mirror group news).
Crowd of about 75 played music, banners against lockdown measures “masks are muzzles”, “restore our freedom” and “hey boris leave our rights alone”.
Police were in attendance but did not intervene.
Of more importance than the demo itself, which will have been seen by relatively few, is that it was reported, without negative comment, in the MSM.
Where?
S/W
Is the lack of tourists because Thailand won’t let them in or because we can’t get there ?
I have a theory. I discussed this in the bar yesterday with someone who had worked in medical research and had hands on experience with PCR testing. His opinion on my theory was that I had likely lost my mental balance to suggest such a thing. Nevertheless, I still arrogantly believe that I am mentally stable so I hereby present my theory. Looking at the published figures from PHE there has been an increase in the positivity rate for PCR tests from 0.5 – 1.0% a few weeks ago to 2.0 – 5% now. It is assumed that this is because the infection is spreading, which could be true, yet it really is not showing up clearly in the numbers of sick or dead people so perhaps there is another reason. My theory is that molecules (or fragments of dead SARS Cov-2 RNA) are distributed everywhere. Enough people have now had the virus and shed these molecules into the environment through respiration, perspiration, urination and faeces to spread these molecules far and wide. It is well documented that these molecules are detectable in sewage and surface water even at PCR Ct values of 25-30. Add to this that the old… Read more »
Ground contamination.
Youtuber Jordan Houston tested his keyboard, his dog and the pavement. All three came back positive.
‘Proof That We’re Being Lied Too…’ (sic).
I saw that but it comes across as a Youtuber trying to make a drama.
Perhaps, if the one or two thousand commentators here came together and submitted samples from the general environment, verified by serious witnesses, like lawyers or doctors who would put their names to it we could find out if this really is or is not a problem which distorts the PCR positive results and hence all the other statistics which follow.
He’s young and making a drama is what their audiences like.
I am not knocking him…its great stuff.
His keyboard didn’t catch covid.
Heretic, burn him
And then the millions of masks being dumped.
Indeed
How many tests will it take till they know that too many politicians have lied and how many lockdowns will it take before all the people have died and how much liberty can one nation lose before open resistance is tried? this virus my friend is blowing in the wind this virus is blowing in the wind This hoo-haa has exposed the terrible inability of our ‘non scientifically educated’ politicians to manage a situation with a significant scientific element. They have been continually overwhelmed and over-awed and in thrall to the science. They have fallen into the trap of running this mess on test results, at best testing is just part of the information you should use to determine public health policy. And as we know the PCR test falls a long way short of ‘at best’. Matt Hancock is a third rate manger and has fallen into every managerial pitfall in the poor managers handbook. He should be looking beyond test results and look at what is happening (or rather what is not happening) and have the courage and conviction to formulate an appropriate policy. But he is weak and has opted for a sort of scientific domination policy… Read more »
Once again it’s because they do PPE at university then straight into politics with no idea how the world works.
Be fair, he did work at the family firm for a little while. Surefire mark of a failure. I suspect he was sent for long stands, left-handed screwdrivers, and tartan paint on a fairly regular basis.
I can see why the PPE thing seems like a persuasive explanation. The problem is, though, that it doesn’t explain the role of all those who are highly trained in STEM who have been pushing the lockdown agenda – Ferguson, Whitty, Vallance, Van Tam, Edmunds, SAGE, iSAGE and on and on. All with PhDs and years of experience in STEM. All apparently unable or unwilling to interrogate data critically or consider the issues raised by Covid in anything other than a one-dimensional way. I’m a Humanities graduate and PhD and was genuinely shocked by the amount of unquestioned assumptions, unproven assertions, confusion of causation and correlation, and general question begging to be found in every one of the iSAGE Reports I’ve read. Not that I’ve anything against STEM, btw, but it isn’t a panacea, sadly.
Matt Hancock is no manger. He’s an insult to third-rate managers too.
it will – admissions follow cases with a lag of about a week. Deaths follow admissions with a lag also of about a week.
Unlikely. RNA does not survive long in the environment.
I agree to some extent, but are we then not in danger of going down the road of censoring due to the fear of upsetting someone somewhere, or someone’s perceived sense of insult – now where have I heard something similar. I think I would stick with the sentiment of I may not like what you say, but I will protect your right to say it – any term will be considered offensive by someone. I am actually disappointed we are even having this conversation. People who are genuinely fearful through acceptance of the successful government propaganda, I do have sympathy for, after all it is behavioural psychology at work. The people I reserve this comment for are the more the virtue signalling types, or those who reserve no rationality to their actions e.g., weraing a mask in the car, walking outside entirely in your own company, masked and gloved, parents forcing children to wear masks, though the latter deserve a harsher term.
The gentleman remarking on this did not explain exactly why thus term disturbs him, is it because he perceives it to deride the affliction of incontinence, which obviously it doesn’t.
I agree, but I do wish there was another term somehow. Anyway I object to the blanket term ‘covid deniers’ applied to all sceptics. We are not denying that covid exists!
What about “yellow bellied cowards”?
Just a thought.
In fairness, if we’re looking to recruit waverers to our side, insulting them probably isn’t a good way to start.
If they haven’t wavered yet it’s because they’re turncoats
Where in Thailand are you?
I’m in Phuket and agree the freedom and lack of government intervention is much appreciated, especially reading the comments on here regulary.
The destruction of the economy here is massive!
Xenophobia and a complete lack of understanding leading to increased fear is the slighlty annoying aspect, also seeing so many children in filthy muzzles but without crash helmets and sat at schools behind cling film screens.
Although approx 90% of businesses are shuttered, most of the remaining ones will not require muzzles, with the exception of the malls, 7/11 and family mart etc
How do you pronounce “Phuket”? Just curious.
Poo ket
Thanks.
That new Bob creation is a masterpiece!! I just bellowed with laughter and spilt my nighty night milk
It,s great. Also true. Covid us now a religion. They practise it in my church.
Yes, most Christians and many Muslims appear to have converted to the Covid cult. It’s interesting to see that some Orthodox Jews are not having any of it. Our Evangelical Christian brother and his friends aren’t either. Sadly his twin is a True Believer. MW
Now, that’s a good substitute term for “bedwetter” – “Covid cultist.”
My insults are definitely becoming more personal eg. telling a bedwetter teacher that they are only concerned with breaking up games of Tig
Strangely, around here,the West Midlands (Geographically, not the county), we always called it Tick.
Get it right, it’s Tag.
We ‘Cheshire potatoes’ did too. MW
https://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/
Ian ‘ Boss, just a quick call to let you know I’ll be back in work on the 1st
Boss ‘ Ian, good to hear from you. Great news is that the government is not forcing us to close down’
Ian ‘Good, good’
Boss ‘ The only thing is, under social distancing rules we can only have four in the office instead of twenty’
Ian ‘ Are you sacking me’
Boss ‘ Of course not, you will remain on furlough until a vaccine is available’
Ian ‘Who’s going to pay me?’
Boss ‘ Who’s been paying you up to now ‘
Ian ‘ The Chancellor’
Boss ‘ Give him a ring’
Ian ‘ Can I speak to Olga in HR’
Boss ‘No’
Ian ‘Why not ‘
Boss ‘Cos we fucked her off last month, after all who needs HR’
Phone goes dead
P.S
Despite his best efforts Ian and his family starved to death in late Spring 2022
It’s just that name calling is a form of disrespect, like we look down on folks for being gripped by fear…because we’re better than them?
Millions upon millions still prefer television access to the MSM. My parents don’t do any alternative viewing online…the boomers trust the big screen and the big networks. I understand why they are in lock step with this s**t.
I have to attend Thanksgiving dinner tomorrow with a room full of believers. It’s going to suck if the chatty chat goes viral (haha). Trump derangement syndrome and covid obsession for a one two punch night of awful conversation. I’m envisioning walking out early. But I won’t call them names. Just people being people, following as only they know.
We should all have the right to be disparaging if we wish.
We should all have the right to be careful about what we say in order to create a pleasant atmosphere and to not be offensive.
We should not allow other people, groups, organisations or governments to dictate what we can think and what we can say and when an attempt is made to change our thinking or our free speech, our policy should be to defeat that attempt.
Our opinions change over time as we come across different ideas and get new information and that is a slow process of individual development, far different from suddenly changing our behaviour or speech by unnecessarily submitting to an external force. ‘Political correctness’ has become tyranny.
A lot of us come on here to be rude to the gutless zombies who are enabling our Fascist tyrants to crush us. This is our site and we shall call these hopeless ex-people what we like.
Or will the Free Speech Union start censoring us? Will a zombie write to complain?
Let’s call them zombies rather than bedwetters…I doubt any actual zombies will write in to complain.
Self-censorship?
I was actually surprised at the notion of us evaluating this expression from the founder of FSU.
There should be a choice, I believe. One person’s insult is another’s free expression.
Some will say bedwetter, others might consider that a bit harsh and say zombie.
I try to be polite even when insulting people. If you take that as self-censorship then so be it. Though, tbh, the invective I use does vary according to how exasperated I am, and nowadays I’m fairly exasperated!
Surely we want to change the collaborators’ understanding of the dire straits we are in? The government doesn’t care that it is killing them with masks. Maybe the collaborators just want to keep the hospitalisation numbers up.
(Vernon Coleman calls them collaborators.)
I don’t mind commenters using the term “bedwetter”, but I mind the lead articles using it.
Yes, I think this is a good compromise, given people wanting to cite this site to their contacts.
So Toby should self-censor, but the rest of us needn’t. 🙂
I agree. Puts people off and it’s ridiculously puerile.
I like that there’s no censorship BTL here.
Gutless zombies
hopeless ex-people
Now that’s much more like it!
I have obtained a leaked copy of Monday’s statement
‘This is an unworkable crock of shit, so we are dumping it all on local authorities ‘
That’s been the plan for a while but the dirty work is not done by the elected members rather by local government officials.
The general public has done the heavy lifting.
If they give local authorities some funding, then I am all for it actually.
Westminster is such an entity, they haven’t got a clue. I voted against regional parliaments, but am now in favour. I come from Germany, where are regional governments, which is leading to chaos at the moment, especially if you have to travel between countries, as they might have different rules, but in general they can better manage their local needs.
Brilliant piece in the Telegraph from Prof Livermore, another scientist on our side
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/2020/10/10/protect-elderly-see-life-back-normal-low-risk/
Could you summarise for the benefit of the paywalled?
Very significant comment piece in the Telegraph, basically declaring war on lockdowns:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/2020/10/11/cannot-face-another-six-months-covid-nightmare/
So is there a strategy? What is it?
The Press must now encourage more people to outright mass civil disobedience. The time is now come.