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by Toby Young
21 October 2020 3:18 AM

Tiers of a Clown

“Where is Manchester, anyway? Is it near Scotland?”

Andy Burnham accused the Prime Minister of playing a “game of poker with people’s lives” after he imposed a Tier 3 lockdown on Greater Manchester without agreeing a support package.

Talks between the Government and political leaders in Greater Manchester broke down yesterday afternoon, with Andy Burnham and co holding out for £65 million and Boris and his ministers only being prepared to offer £60 million. The upshot is that Greater Manchester is now only going to get £22 million.

At the 5pm presser where Boris tried to spin this to his advantage, Deputy Chief Medical Officer Jonathan Van-Tam – or JVT, as Boris insisted on calling him – produced a series of charts appearing to show that, in his own words: “Pretty much everywhere in England is now heating up to some extent.”

But his slide deck told a different story.

For instance, the slide illustrating the geographical spread of positive cases (wrongly described as the spread of “COVID-19”) showed the rate of infection falling in many parts of the country.

Van-Tam made much of the fact that hospitals were admitting more and more Covid patients, particularly in the North West, as shown in the slide below.

But what this chart doesn’t show – and which no journalist asked about, unfortunately – is that Covid admissions in the North West are no higher than admissions would be for other respiratory illnesses in a normal year. Yes, Covid admissions are up, but admissions for pneumonia are down. Indeed, hospital admissions for all respiratory illnesses in the North West were about half the five-year average at the end of September. What looks to be happening is that elderly patients who would normally be admitted for flu and pneumonia are being admitted for COVID-19 instead. Which means that hospitals in the North West are nowhere close to being overwhelmed. If that’s the rationale for placing Greater Manchester in Tier 3 – protect the NHS – it doesn’t stack up.

The feebleness of this justification for the local lockdown was exposed by Jennifer Williams in the Manchester Evening News, who tried – and failed – to obtain the figures. The paper sent an identical list of questions to all the key players in Greater Manchester’s healthcare system, wanting to know trust-by-trust Covid admissions numbers as a proportion of overall capacity, compared to the April peak, and the same figures broken down for intensive care and high dependency beds, plus ventilator beds, including non-invasive ventilation. And it asked for equivalent bed occupancy figures for this time last year, so it could compare them with the start of a normal winter.

Our request was sent to NHS England, Greater Manchester’s Health and Social Care Partnership, each individual hospital trust in the conurbation, the Department of Health and Social Care, the mayor’s office and Downing Street. We gave a 4pm deadline.

Six out of seven relevant NHS trusts did not respond. Wigan, Wrightington and Leigh said that “we are unable to provide figures – these will be issued at national level”, while none of the others have replied.

The M.E.N. understands trusts have been told by both regional NHS England and the Greater Manchester system specifically not to issue their own figures to the media today.

Greater Manchester’s Health and Social Care Partnership responded this afternoon to say that Dr Jane Eddleston would be doing a pooled interview with the Press Association about the hospital picture here. But the M.E.N’s specific questions weren’t addressed.

The mayor’s office has not responded.

The Department of Health and Social Care replied almost immediately this morning, to say NHS England holds the data.

NHS England did respond with some links to data.

But most of the relevant information it offered was only broken down to North West level, which matters.

Government’s argument is about Greater Manchester specifically, so North West numbers are no good – they are skewed by the situation in Liverpool in particular.

Clearly, the reason the data is being withheld is because it shows Greater Manchester’s hospitals are very far from being overwhelmed by Covid patients.

Which begs the question, why are the people of Greater Manchester being needlessly punished in this way?

Stop Press: The always dependable Ross Clark wrote a piece in the Telegraph yesterday headlined: “Don’t believe the scare stories about hospitals running out of ICU beds“. And Sarah Knapton, the Telegraph‘s Science Editor, has written a piece pointing out that ICU beds in Manchester are no fuller than they were this time last year.

Lockdown’s Lethal Toll

Award-winning investigative journalist David Rose wrote a sensational front page story for the Mail yesterday, documenting the scale of the collateral damage to public health caused by the lockdown and the continuing restrictions. Bringing together more than 130 studies, as well as testimony from readers who have contacted him via Lockdown Sceptics, the article documented the impact of this disastrous policy on every sphere of health, including cancer, heart disease, addiction, the welfare of children, domestic violence and mental illness.

Among the revelations are:

  • Delays in treatment are set to cause a 20% rise in deaths among newly diagnosed cancer patients in England – 6,270 excess deaths this year
  • Treatment for strokes fell by 45% during lockdown and there were more than 2,000 excess deaths in from heart disease
  • More than 50,000 operations for children were cancelled
  • Organ transplants fell by two thirds, with the number of those who died on the transplant waiting list almost doubling
  • Total waiting lists for routine orthopaedic and eye operations are at record levels
  • Calls to child abuse helplines rocketed
  • As rates of depression and anxiety doubled, thousands of recovering alcoholics have relapsed

David lined up an impressive array of experts to comment on these horrendous figures.

Professor Karol Sikora, a cancer specialist and head of Buckingham Medical School, said the findings of the Mail’s audit were a “stunning demonstration of lockdowns’ harmful effects across society”.

He added: “If lockdown were a drug, you’d need to consider the side effects, and yet we’re not – even though we seem to be diving headlong into another one.

“People sometimes claim it’s a question of health versus the economy, but it’s not – it’s health versus health.” Professor Sikora supports last week’s Great Barrington Declaration, now signed by more than 10,700 scientists and 29,700 doctors worldwide, calling on governments to adopt an approach of ‘focused protection’, shielding the vulnerable while opening up the economy.

Sunetra Gupta, one of the Declaration’s authors and an Oxford University epidemiologist, said: “These papers and data are starting to build the evidence to show that the collateral damage has been immense – and will continue with extreme measures such as lockdowns. The time has surely come to take their full costs measures into account.”

Congratulations to David on a fantastic story – and thanks to those readers who helped him with it.

Worth reading in full.

No ID, No Drinkie

“Und who is in ze support bubble?”

The Metropolitan Police have told pub landlords to ask for names, addresses and photo IDs of customers before serving them to ensure people from different households aren’t mixing. The Mail has more.

Scotland Yard has been writing to struggling traders in London to say they should ask for names, addresses and even photo ID.

Officers said the procedures would stop households mixing – in keeping with Tier Two curbs introduced last weekend.

However business chiefs said this placed “completely unacceptable” demands on staff and would cost venues bookings if customers could not prove they were following the COVID-19 restrictions.

The Night Time Industries Association has taken legal advice over the “unlawful and misleading advice”.

Police forces around the country are checking on Facebook and other social media sites to see whether landlords are letting customers flout social distancing rules.

This new development follows the news that Sadiq Khan wants the 10pm curfew lifted in London to help struggling publicans and restaurateurs. According to the Evening Standard:

Mayor of London Sadiq Khan has called for the 10pm curfew to be scrapped now the capital is under Tier 2 coronavirus restrictions.

Mr Khan said allowing restaurants to remain open beyond 10pm would support businesses by allowing them to increase bookings even with indoor mixing of households banned.

His intervention comes after leading West End bar and restaurant operators warned they will not survive the winter after the “horrendous” first weekend of the new Tier 2 clampdown triggered tens of thousands of cancellations.

But hang on. Didn’t Sadiq Khan insist on putting London in a Tier 2 lockdown? And if he’s so worried about people staying away from pubs, why’s he asking the Metropolitan Police to enforce the “no mixing” rule?

What kind of fools d’you take us for, Mr Mayor?

“No Sign of a Second Wave” – Prof Carl Heneghan

Prof Carl Heneghan has told the Telegraph that the ONS data for the week ending October 9th – published yesterday – indicate that there are no excess deaths.

“There is no sign of a second wave up to October 9th. In week 41, the number of deaths registered was 1.5% above the five-year average.

“We consider the current data normal variation, and only consider it an excess when it gets to two standard deviations, which is about 1,200 excess deaths compared to the five-year average.”

Sarah Knapton, the Telegraph‘s Science Editor, has more.

Although Covid deaths rose to 438 for the week ending October 9th – an increase of 36% from the previous week, when the figure stood at 321 – overall deaths rose just 143 above the five-year average. There were also 19 fewer overall deaths than in the same week last year.

Experts at Oxford University said the number would have to get to 1,200 deaths above the norm before it would usually be considered “excess” above the expected variation in the data.

Researchers also found there would usually be around 1,600 weekly deaths from flu and pneumonia for the same week. Deaths from coronavirus, flu and pneumonia are currently running at 1,621, suggesting there is virtually no increase in expected respiratory deaths.

The ONS figures also do not factor in the UK’s growing and ageing population, which would be expected to increase the number of deaths over time and which are likely to cancel out at least some of the increase.

For example, between 2010 and 2019 the number of deaths for the week ending October 9th rose from 9,281 to 9,973 – about 70 extra deaths a year.

Florence Nightingale diagram illustrating the complete absence of a second wave from the Centre For Evidence-Based Medicine Blog

Dr Jason Oke, Carl Heneghan’s colleague at the Centre for Evidence-Based Medicine, thinks that’s what’s happening is that older people who would normally be dying of flu and pneumonia at this time of year are dying of Covid instead.

“Total deaths are tracking at the top but not over,” said Dr Oke. “Is it because we have nearly an identical deficit of flu and pneumonia deaths for this time of year?

“COVID-19 plus influenza/pneumonia deaths are at 1,621 this week, while five-year average flu and pneumonia for this week is 1,600.”

Worth reading in full.

Lionel Shriver Takes No Prisoners

Arch-sceptic Lionel Shriver is refreshingly forthright about the mismanagement of the coronavirus crisis in an interview in CapX to promote her 14th novel, The Motion of the Body Through Space.

Shriver, a committed lockdown skeptic, is a fierce critic of the way the virus outbreak has been handled by governments around the world, and deplores the effect the imposed restrictions, such as social distancing (‘the elevation of suffering’?) and face masks (‘narcissistic’?), have had on everyday life.

“It’s filmic, but it’s one of those movies that never ends. It’s not even that interesting. It’s just awful. I hate the way it (wearing masks) changes my interactions with people. I find myself smiling anyway; the impulse is still there. But they don’t get it; they do not receive it. It makes all commercial interchanges dry and almost hostile. I refuse to wear a mask out of doors, because it’s epidemiologically ridiculous.”

It’s not clear whether Shriver is more incensed by the new rules, or by people’s unthinking, uncritical, irrational acceptance of them.

“I was one of the earliest lockdown skeptics. From the get-go I just thought the numbers didn’t justify the response. There were not enough people dying. And what we have exposed is widespread statistical ignorance. Even in the US people think 170,000 people dying is huge, like a massacre; but 3 million people die in the US every year, and a large proportion of those 170,000 would have died this year anyway. But, of course, that sounds callous, and gets you into terrible trouble, but it’s true.”

I wonder how Shriver, who spent the lockdown in London, felt about the almost compulsory NHS worship.

“I found the ‘Clap for Carers’ stuff’ nauseating, and it won’t surprise you to learn I was not out there on the kerb banging my pots. Partly it’s an aversion to group activities of any kind, but it’s also an aversion to the idea that we should worship an institution. I find that baffling. It’s said all the time that the British worship the NHS, that it’s a religion. But why would you worship a healthcare system?

“Other European nations, with much more functional healthcare systems, don’t worship them. It’s peculiar, and I think there’s insecurity at the base of it. The British are all too aware of the shortcomings of the NHS and want to cover them up, they don’t want to admit those shortcomings to themselves.”

It’s exhilarating to hear a prize-winning literary novelist talk so bluntly – and so honestly – about the idiocies of the past six months. Hearing their own feelings articulated so clearly will be music to the ears of many lockdown sceptics.

Worth reading in full.

Scott Atlas Talks to Freddie Sayers

Freddie Sayers, the editor of UnHerd, interviewed Scott Atlas yesterday and the member of the White House’s coronavirus task force made a powerful case for “Focused Protection”, as set out in the Great Barrington Declaration (see below).

Among his key quotes were:

What is his policy?

My advice is exactly this. It’s a three-pronged strategy. Number one: aggressive protection of high risk individuals and the vulnerable (typically the elderly and those with co-morbidities). Number two: allocate resources so that we prevent hospital overcrowding, so that people can be treated for this virus and get the other serious medical care that is needed. Number three: open schools, society and businesses because keeping them closed is enormously harmful – in fact it kills people.

Effect of lockdowns

We must open up because we’re killing people. In the US, 46% of the six most common cancers were not diagnosed during the shutdown… These are people who will present to the hospital or their doctor with later stage disease – many of these people will die. 650,000 Americans are on chemotherapy ­– half of them didn’t come in for their chemo because they were afraid. Two-thirds of screenings for cancer were not done; half of childhood immunisations did not get done; 85% of living organ transplants did not get done. And then we see the other harms: 200,000 cases plus of child abuse in the US during the two months of spring school closures were not reported because schools are the number one agency where abuse is noticed; we have one out of four American young adults, college age, who thought of killing themselves in the month of June…

All of these harms are massive for the working class and the lower socioeconomic groups. The people who are upper class, who can work from home, the people who can sip their latte and complain that their children are underfoot or that they have to come up with extra money to hire a tutor privately – these are people who are not impacted by the lockdowns.

This is the topic, this is why you open up. A secondary gain might be population immunity, but this is the reason to open up.

Climate of fear

This is one of the biggest failures of the voices of public health in the United States and in the world – they specifically instilled fear with their proclamations and statements… And the models that were put forward that were worst case scenarios and were just hideously wrong, and the media that has hyped up these rare exceptions like multi-system inflammation in children even though we know the overwhelming evidence is that this disease is absolutely not high risk for children. All the hyperbole, the sensationalising and the failure of public health officials to articulate what we know instead of what we don’t know… The fear is due to what was said by the so-called experts, by the media and by a failure to understand or care that they were instilling hear… I just heard a famous epidemiologist from Harvard the other day say that to have the idea of herd immunity even being discussed is ‘mass murder’ – these kinds of statements are hideously outrageous.

It’s never appropriate to have fear. There is no such thing as a government leader who is competent who instils fear.

Worth watching in full.

Consultation About HMG’s Coronavirus Dashboard

A reader has got in touch to point out that the Government is currently carrying out a consultation about the data displayed in its coronavirus dashboard. He has responded himself and urges Lockdown Sceptics readers to do the same.

This is my feedback:

Please, please:

1) Don’t show positive PCR tests as “cases”. They are not cases; they are “positive PCR tests”.

2) Don’t show absolute numbers of positive PCR tests. That’s meaningless and depends entirely on the number of tests performed; show the number of positive PCR tests per 1,000 tests.

3) Don’t imply a positive PCR test is equivalent to an infection. There are many reasons why a positive PCR test does not mean an actual infection not least because of false positives; show the likelihood that a positive test is an infection (For example, if the infection rate in the UK is 0.2% and the false positive rate is 2.4% then the likelihood that a positive PCR test indicates actual infection is 7.7%). In fact, it may be better to display the statistically likely infections per 1,000 tests.

Would it be good for many of us to provide this sort of feedback?

Labour Party Resignation Letter

A reader of Lockdown Sceptics, has shared the resignation latter she’s just sent to Keir Starmer. I daresay he’s had quite a few like this since calling for a two-week ‘circuit breaker’, ignoring the devastating impact that any additional restrictions will have – are having – on the least well off.

Dear Keir Starmer

I write in sadness and some desperation to explain to you why after having been a member for most of my adult life, I wish to leave the Labour Party.

The situation regarding the response to Covid 19 is destroying this country. Yes at the start the actions the government took may have been explicable but for many months that has ceased to be the case. What upsets me as a party member has been that lack of opposition my party has shown to this disastrous curb on our freedoms. Please just consider a few easily verifiable facts:

* The tens of thousands of deaths caused as a direct result of the response to Covid – the cure should never be worse than the disease.
* The number of essential health checks missed – heart screening, cancer screening etc.
* The effect on mental health of the restrictions and the horrific economic fallout to come, the increased suicide rates, including heartbreakingly amongst children
* In the wider world the effect on the poorest people some of whom were being lifted out of poverty but who now will not be helped. Unicef say 1.2 million children and 56700 mothers could die due to disruptions in basic interventions caused by the response to Covid.
* The lies that are being told even now about the strain on intensive care beds in places like Manchester and Liverpool. Yes there is a strain but it is pretty much the same as every year because we don’t have enough intensive care beds.
* The number of people (including the elderly) who are asymptomatic – yet we have committed the crime of denying those in care homes access to their families for months and months. What does that do to people with dementia?
* Why is Sweden on course to have an annual mortality rate in line with the yearly average when they did not lockdown?
* Ask yourself why the Great Barrington Declaration (well thought out views of many respected scientists) was taken off Google?

Frankly this is utter wickedness being perpetrated on the people of this country and the wider world. It won’t be good enough to look back in 20 years and see what we should have done. People of integrity and bravery need to stand up and be counted now.

But you, and my party, have not done that. Instead you have looked for a bigger lockdown. You have looked to score forensic points against Boris Johnson at PMQs. You have not acted to try and protect people. For this reason in all conscience I cannot stay as a member of this party as in my view it no longer acts to protect ordinary people.

I urge you in all humanity to change your course of action.

Yours sincerely

XXXX XXXXXX

Dr Reiner Fuellmich’s Video Censored by YouTube

It won’t surprise readers to learn that YouTube has taken down the video of Dr Reiner Fuellmich talking about his class action suit against various public health agencies. A reader has drawn my attention to this:

You may already be aware that Dr. Reiner Fuellmich’s video on preparation for a class action against the Robert Koch Institute (Drosten and Wieler) and the WHO has been removed from YouTube – at least the English version. The German version is, presumably temporarily, still there.

Stop Press: Read this article in the Times of Oman about Dr Fuellmich’s law suit.

Covid Marie Celestes

A reader has very kindly adapted one of Dr Mike Yeadon’s twitter threads into a stand-alone piece. The subject is the utter wrong-headedness of the SAGE advice regarding the “second wave” and the need to protect NHS hospitals from being overwhelmed. Here are the first three paragraphs:

A source just gave me the following information. A hospital in Wales, Nevill Hall in Abergavenny, has 250 beds. 200 beds are empty. The surgeons are bored and pass much time on the nearby golf course. I think this might be one answer to why UK doctors are not investigating to find out why hospitals have no patients in them! Apparently all Covid cases are currently being sent to this hospital. This story tallies with the original evidence which drew me into this ghastly mess we’ve made of our country. I’ve not mentioned this for quite a while but you all should be incandescent about it.

A good friend who’s a Professor of Cell Biology was playing hockey many miles from home. He fell into conversation with one of the opposing team. This person is a fairly senior manger in NHS England and has daily sight of bed disposition across the service. He was upset to have realised that, as intensive care beds emptied because the many COVID-19 patients either recovered or sadly died, they were not being replaced by elective surgical patients. To the best of my recollection, this was late June. I was put in touch with the NHSE staffer by my friend, because he knew I was, by then, telling him all the time that “something is seriously wrong”. I met up with the NHSE manager who, by good fortune, lives less than 10 miles from me. He told me that the utilisation of the ICU beds was at a far lower % than ever in his whole career. Worse, he told me the reason, showing me part of a management briefing he’d recently attended. To my surprise, in the section entitled “NHS Priorities”, the top one wasn’t what I expected to see – to get the NHS back to normal service ASAP. No, that was there, but it was second.

The top priority was entirely contradictory to the second and essentially said “Run the NHS as lightly loaded as possible in order to be prepared to cope with the second wave”. Just so we’re clear, it’s not an accident that it’s hard to get access to the NHS at present. No, it’s a strategic choice: they’re not seeing you, doing fewer elective surgeries, to protect the NHS. Kafka would probably have rejected this as a plot line on grounds that it’s absurd. While there has recently need an increase in utilisation of ITU beds, I don’t know about you, but to me it’s completely unacceptable that someone’s decided it’s ok not to replace your heart valve and certain other elective surgeries. Why? To cope with an expected “second wave”.

We’ve given it pride of place on the right-hand side in the section entitled: “How Many Non-Covid Patients Are Being Neglected?”

Worth reading in full.

I’m Not a Conspiracy Theorist, But…

I got a good email from a retired scientist and lockdown sceptic who’s been asking the question, Cui Bono?

I’ve been trying to follow the money.

It seems labyrinthine, but the EU – for example – has put EUR 15.9 billion into tests, treatments and vaccines and EUR 1 billion into research and innovation to ‘tackle’ Covid. UK Research and Innovation has already awarded GBP 422 million each in research and innovation grants in response to or ‘related to’ COVID-19 – mainly to private organisations, but some to Universities. ‘Related to’ is a pretty broad term judging by the titles in the spreadsheet – “Dinosaurs and Robots: COVID-19 continuity” (Natural History Museum) is one of my favourites.

The EU also support the WHO ACT-Accelerator, as do the United Kingdom and other states, Bill & Melinda Gates, Gavi (the vaccine alliance), The Wellcome Trust (Sir Jeremy et al.) and others – including, as it happens, the Global Fund to fight AIDS, Tuberculosis and Malaria – remember that was Chelsea Clinton’s MPhil topic, completed at Oxford about the same time as co-author Devi Sridhar’s graduate work, and the organisation Tedros came to the WHO from. The WHO ACT-Accelerator has a diagnostics pillar that aims to invest USD 6 billion in testing alone and USD 18.1 billion in vaccines.

Mike Yeadon may be in a better position than me to judge the financial scale and probity of all this. As a sometime professional programmer, I can’t understand how the NHS contact tracing app may cost GBP 35 million. I think it is simple enough for an undergraduate dissertation project. Once international treaties or contracts have been signed, and money has been promised, it’s no wonder Boris can’t back out, is it? Wouldn’t he be a marked man – or at any rate, trapped by treaties or contracts – or both? And aren’t most of his key advisers invested in this Tulip mania? Which of the public health people are free of conflicts of interest here? Is this regular in health policy?

I think Devi and Chelsea’s book would be well worth a read and Devi’s knowledge of the politics must be far better than her knowledge of the science – which doesn’t seem great. It’s a pity, though, that she is not a dispassionate and independent observer, but a well-embedded ‘actor’ in the politics, given her pivotal role in shaping the Scottish Government’s response.

But who in power is going to wake up one morning and say ‘nothing to see here’? The costs are sunk or promised. Ships are sailing for Darien and no-one is going to call them back.

Finally, I am not a ‘conspiracy theorist’, but… I do believe there are wrongs arising out of false statements of (scientific and other) fact being made knowingly or recklessly, causing millions of people to suffer damage in pursuit of the above Coronatopia, and that this may amount to agreement arising in a tort, if not a crime, and therefore a statutory conspiracy or conspiracy to defraud in law (a further part of which is the consistent false statements used to justify ongoing lockdown measures – necessary to perpetuate a deception). I think that German lawyer may be on to something…

Stop Press: Annabel Fenwick Elliott in the Telegraph also thinks there might be something to the conspiracy theories after all.

Eight months on, my burning question remains unanswered. What is really going on? About 50 million people die each year worldwide. Some deaths are preventable, others not. Over the course of 2020, this pandemic has claimed 1.1 million lives; most of whom were elderly or already ill. Heart disease kills 17 million annually; cancer 9.6 million. Respiratory diseases, including bronchitis, pneumonia and emphysema take 2.5 million lives a year.

Why then, are we still playing this ridiculously destructive game with healthy peoples’ lives – a risky experiment that, as is starting to emerge, will very likely kill more people than it saves in the long run?

Worth reading in full.

Statistician’s Letter to the Telegraph

Brian Gedalla, a retired statistician, has written a good letter to the Telegraph that he’s shared with us. Let’s hope it’s published.

Sir,

Two weeks ago, I suggested to an eminent doctor (a personal friend) that we were moving from a situation where we were suffering from a pandemic to one where Covid-19 was endemic in the population. He scoffed and accused me of playing games with words.

Yet, yesterday, Sir Patrick Vallance suggested precisely the same thing and added that “the notion of eliminating Covid is not right”, adding that people “would have to learn to live with the virus”.

That, of course, is what so many of us have been saying for months only to have our views dismissed by experts like Vallance as dangerous nonsense.

Surely, Vallance’s belated conversion to the blindingly obvious calls for a radical rethink of the whole approach to dealing with this disease and an end to the endless cycle of lockdowns, economic destruction and denial of basic civil liberties?

Brian Gedalla,
Chartered Statistician

Postcard From Albania

A reader has sent us a postcard about his recent weekend break in Albania. Sounds like a winner.

“Take care during your trip to that badly lit old fashioned country and bad drivers and roads.”

This is what my Grandmother texted to me before I headed on a spontaneous weekend trip to Tirana, the capital of Albania. Nowadays, you would have thought we would all cringe at such a prejudicial statement as this. However, almost all Brits would agree with the sentiment. We have been raised to assume the worst about any country ending in ‘nia’.

However, the fact is the state of the roads in Hallam, where she lives, is awful – maybe Nick Clegg had bigger worries during his tenure as MP for the constituency? Moreover, it wasn’t in Albania that my bike of two days was stolen on its first outing. No, that was by Catford Bridge station.

Albania, compared to these places is brilliant, and I’m not just saying that out of relief that I wasn’t killed. The people are tremendously kind. It is normally the case that a foreign accent is a giveaway, and activates the ‘tourism surcharge’. However, in Albania it was quite the opposite. Whilst everyone kept to their lane, they would go out of their way to ensure great service, especially to us westerners. It turns out that decades of fascist and communist rule made them appreciate the freedoms of enlightened societies.

This meant we fired guns, played blackjack and even saw a macaw in a slightly dingy pet shop. Not bad for a Islamic country. Further, Alabania is the northern neighbour to Greece. That means a Mediterranean climate, cuisine and culture, that instantly gives you a holiday buzz. Sure, half the architecture is 20th century breezeblock with an ostentatious façade, but that just makes one appreciate the difference between Albania and our (currently not so) green and pleasant land.

Of course, you get the feel that they have bigger problems. But this is essentially what makes Albania great. The police may ask you to put your mask on, even outdoors. But all this means is you have to cover your chin. There are also rules against loud music and drugs – despite it being the marijuana production capital of Europe. The enforcement of these laws, however, is ridiculously laissez-faire. Having gone through what Albanians have, the police are onto bigger, real issues than virtue signalling. Though they are abundant, their presence is barely felt.

Ultimately, every nation likes to think their way of doing things is best. Of course, we occasionally give concessions to countries we think are on our level – we will let the French cook for us and the Germans build. However, in the UK we have never given a moment’s notice to 90% of the world for they are just ‘backwards’. After decades of decline in British achievement, expansion, trade, culture, bravery and strength, maybe we should?

Round-Up

  • “There’s a financial incentive for councils to lock down” – Laura Dodsworth in Spiked says councils are being bribed to lock down
  • “Lockdown Is a Big Mistake: What Top Israeli Doctors Really Think About COVID-19” – Good piece in Haaretz about in which a group of concerned doctors argue that the cure has been worse than the disease
  • “Sadiq Khan urges immediate scrapping of 10pm curfew” – London Mayor says 10pm curfew is hurting the hospitality business – after placing London under a Tier 2 lockdown!
  • “Left-wing calls for a shielding strategy are a political breakthrough” – Tom Harris welcomes Sir Richard Leese’s advocacy of the GBD strategy
  • “Climate experts fly more often than other scientists” – According to a study by Cardiff University, scientists who specialise in climate change fly more than other researchers
  • “My poor Wales – this ‘firebreak’ is a pyre on which the futures of her people will be incinerated” – Allison Pearson laments the destruction unleashed on her beloved Wales by its half-witted First Minister
  • “‘Scarred for life’: SAGE experts warn of impact of Covid policies on the young” – Hang on. SAGE experts are warning of the collateral damage caused by the policies SAGE experts recommended? Talk about covering your arse!
  • “The tyranny of data has put us at the mercy of a new Covid priesthood” – Philip Johnston in the Telegraph says politicians have shown themselves incapable of interrogating statistics or those who wield them
  • “Dr Maria Van Kerkhove: ‘There are no inevitable subsequent peaks or waves of coronavirus’” – The epidemiologist leading the WHO’s Covid response says countries must be “vigilant but optimistic”
  • “Dear Members of Parliament” – Excellent letter by Brian Cattle, an epidemiologist turned airline pilot

Theme Tunes Suggested by Readers

Four today: “I’m a Sceptic” by Modern Saints, “Scepticism is Just the Start” by the Forbidden, “There Are Bad Times Just Around The Corner” by Noel Coward and “I Predict a Riot” by the Kaiser Chiefs. Are you listening, Boris?

Love in the Time of Covid

We have created some Lockdown Sceptics Forums, including a dating forum called “Love in a Covid Climate” that has attracted a bit of attention. We have a team of moderators in place to remove spam and deal with the trolls, but sometimes it takes a little while so please bear with us. You have to register to use the Forums, but that should just be a one-time thing. Any problems, email the Lockdown Sceptics webmaster Ian Rons here.

Sharing stories: Some of you have asked how to link to particular stories on Lockdown Sceptics. The answer used to be to first click on “Latest News”, then click on the links that came up beside the headline of each story. But we’ve changed that so the link now comes up beside the headline whether you’ve clicked on “Latest News” or you’re just on the Lockdown Sceptics home page. Please do share the stories with your friends and on social media.

Woke Gobbledegook

For those of us trying to hold back the tsunami of woke nonsense it can sometimes feel like a pointless exercise – there’s just so much of it. So it was heartwarming today to hear the Conservative MP Kemi Badenoch, the Equalities Minister, making it clear exactly where she stands. If she’s a candidate in the next leadership contest (won’t be long, surely?) I’ll be campaigning for her.

The Equalities Minister could not have been clearer:

Black Lives Matter and Critical Race Theory are political and do not belong in schools.

Teaching ideas such as 'white privilege' as a factual reality is breaking the law! 🚫👨‍🏫 pic.twitter.com/6VoIDVJxLi

— Fr Calvin Robinson (@calvinrobinson) October 20, 2020

“Mask Exempt” Lanyards

We’ve created a one-stop shop down here for people who want to buy (or make) a “Mask Exempt” lanyard/card. You can print out and laminate a fairly standard one for free here and it has the advantage of not explicitly claiming you have a disability. But if you have no qualms about that (or you are disabled), you can buy a lanyard from Amazon saying you do have a disability/medical exemption here (takes a while to arrive). The Government has instructions on how to download an official “Mask Exempt” notice to put on your phone here. You can get a “Hidden Disability” tag from ebay here and an “exempt” card with lanyard for just £1.99 from Etsy here. And, finally, if you feel obliged to wear a mask but want to signal your disapproval of having to do so, you can get a “sexy world” mask with the Swedish flag on it here.

Don’t forget to sign the petition on the UK Government’s petitions website calling for an end to mandatory face masks in shops here.

A reader has started a website that contains some useful guidance about how you can claim legal exemption.

And here’s an excellent piece about the ineffectiveness of masks by a Roger W. Koops, who has a doctorate in organic chemistry.

The Great Barrington Declaration

The top three hits on Google if you search for the Great Barrington Declaration

The Great Barrington Declaration, a petition started by Professor Martin Kulldorff, Professor Sunetra Gupta and Professor Jay Bhattacharya calling for a strategy of “Focused Protection” (protect the elderly and the vulnerable and let everyone else get on with life), was launched on October 5th and the lockdown zealots have been doing their best to discredit it ever since. If you Google it, one of the top hits you get is a smear piece from the obscure Leftist conspiracy website Byline Times – written by a journalist Christopher Hitchens described as “risible” – and one from the Guardian headlined: “Herd immunity letter signed by fake experts including ‘Dr Johnny Bananas’.” (Freddie Sayers at UnHerd warned us about this hit job the day before it appeared.) On the bright side, Google UK has stopped shadow banning it, so the actual Declaration now shows up in the search results – and my Spectator piece about the attempt to suppress it is among the top hits – although the three featured hits at the top of the results page are all Guardian smear jobs and discussion of it has been censored by Reddit. The reason the zealots hate it, of course, is that it gives the lie to their claim that “the science” only supports their strategy. These three scientists are every bit as eminent – more eminent – than the pro-lockdown fanatics so expect no let up in the attacks. (Wikipedia has also done a hit job.)

You can find it here. Please sign it. Now over half-a-million signatures and closing in on 600,000.

Stop Press: Jay Bhattacharya has written a good piece for the Telegraph rebutting some of the arguments that have been made against “Focused Protection” and Martin Kulldorff has given an interview in two parts in which he defends the strategy here and here.

Judicial Reviews Against the Government

There are now so many JRs being brought against the Government and its ministers, we thought we’d include them all in one place down here.

First, there’s the Simon Dolan case. You can see all the latest updates and contribute to that cause here.

Then there’s the Robin Tilbrook case. You can read about that and contribute here.

Then there’s John’s Campaign which is focused specifically on care homes. Find out more about that here.

There’s the GoodLawProject’s Judicial Review of the Government’s award of lucrative PPE contracts to various private companies. You can find out more about that here and contribute to the crowdfunder here.

The Night Time Industries Association has instructed lawyers to JR any further restrictions on restaurants, pubs and bars.

And last but not least there’s the Free Speech Union‘s challenge to Ofcom over its ‘coronavirus guidance’. You can read about that and make a donation here.

Samaritans

If you are struggling to cope, please call Samaritans for free on 116 123 (UK and ROI), email jo@samaritans.org or visit the Samaritans website to find details of your nearest branch. Samaritans is available round the clock, every single day of the year, providing a safe place for anyone struggling to cope, whoever they are, however they feel, whatever life has done to them.

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Special thanks to graphic designer and Lockdown Sceptics reader Claire Whitten for designing our new logo. We think it’s ace. Find her work here.

And Finally…

James Delingpole and I rant and rave about Boris’s imposition of a Tier 3 lockdown on Greater Manchester, as well as the Government’s other shortcomings, in the latest episode of London Calling. Worth listening to while you walk the dog, always making sure to keep your mask on and not talk to anyone in another household. Don’t forget to subscribe on iTunes.

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Cristi.Neagu
Cristi.Neagu
5 years ago

Found something “funny” today…

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karenovirus
karenovirus
5 years ago
Reply to  Cristi.Neagu

Yes, strange that but it does confirm part of Toby’s main text today

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Nessimmersion
Nessimmersion
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Reaction to the figures above:

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Lockdown Truth
Lockdown Truth
5 years ago
Reply to  Nessimmersion

I like that! 😄

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Nessimmersion
Nessimmersion
5 years ago
Reply to  Lockdown Truth

It could be made better by photoshopping masks onto the sheep and adding comments like ” If it saves one life”

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Nessimmersion
Nessimmersion
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

It looks an ideal subject for a graph from Hector Drummond, if anyone has the contact details, as I imagine he is deluged.

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Londo Mollari
Londo Mollari
5 years ago
Reply to  Cristi.Neagu

How legit are those figures? I have seen that elsewhere and i would like to circulate them, but if they are false then that will blow back in my (our) faces.

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Tee Ell
Tee Ell
5 years ago
Reply to  Londo Mollari

Well the year hasn’t finished yet and it presents it as if we’re safe to compare apples with oranges, so I won’t be sharing this one personally.

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Londo Mollari
Londo Mollari
5 years ago
Reply to  Tee Ell

But we are 5/6ths of the way through the year so if the figures are legit the huge disparity must be indicative of something even at this stage.

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Tee Ell
Tee Ell
5 years ago
Reply to  Londo Mollari

Except we’re omitting Nov/Dec, and I’d suspect those are sometimes high flu-pneumonia death months? Depends doesn’t it – but it’d be better to compare with the numbers for point in the year for the other years.

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bobblybob
bobblybob
5 years ago
Reply to  Londo Mollari

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/bulletins/deathsduetocoronaviruscovid19comparedwithdeathsfrominfluenzaandpneumoniaenglandandwales/deathsoccurringbetween1januaryand31august2020#death-occurrences-in-2020-and-five-year-averages-for-influenza-and-pneumonia

here’s the source

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stewart
stewart
5 years ago
Reply to  Londo Mollari

This was posted yesterday. I asked about the missing years 2018/19 for flu and 2018 and 2019 for pneumonia. Missing years raises questions.

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BeBopRockSteady
BeBopRockSteady
5 years ago
Reply to  stewart

Look for yourself. Notice the source. This is a global 2020 phenomenon

https://apps.who.int/flumart/Default?ReportNo=7

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BeBopRockSteady
BeBopRockSteady
5 years ago
Reply to  Londo Mollari

https://apps.who.int/flumart/Default?ReportNo=7

Fill your boots

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CGL
CGL
5 years ago
Reply to  Cristi.Neagu

Someone pointed out yesterday that 2018 numbers are missing- not sure what the significance of this is?

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Cecil B
Cecil B
5 years ago
Reply to  Cristi.Neagu

So does that make it a fraudemic?

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LSceptic
LSceptic
5 years ago
Reply to  Cristi.Neagu

I suspect that many of the previous years figures for pneumonia and flu were a convenient catch-all for cause of death in the very elderly.
I don’t know about anyone else, but I don’t know of anyone who died from the flu. I know people who’ve had it and been very ill, but they’ve not died. I’m sure some people do, e.g. those already vulnerable.
My late father-in-law had pneumonia put on his death certificate. I don’t believe he did have pneumonia, but had congestive heart failure, and was just very elderly (he was nearly 95 y.o.)
CV19 has become the new convenient catch-all for many elderly who have died of something else, e.g. heart failure.

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Sylvie
Sylvie
5 years ago
Reply to  LSceptic

Also worth noting that the UK guidance for doctors on completion of death certificates has become disapproving about putting ‘old age’ as a cause of death on the cert, they’re supposed to be able to identify some health condition. Kicked off by the Shipman case.

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Jeremy Enns
Jeremy Enns
5 years ago
Reply to  Cristi.Neagu

So, does anyone have the source for the numbers presented in the original post? Specifically, the precision numbers for flu and pneumonia in 2020. As another said, we don’t want to share around something that will just end up leaving egg on our collective faces.

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Matt Dalby
Matt Dalby
5 years ago
Reply to  Cristi.Neagu

I’ve been puzzled by the figures relating to the number of “Covid” deaths. Comparing the running 7 day average with the number of “cases” 2 weeks ago gives an infection fatality rate of at least 1% (much higher if a lot of the tests are false positives). It has long been my suspicion that the majority of “Covid” deaths (at least in the last 3 or 4 months) are from flu or other respiratory conditions. This would explain why the number of deaths has increased over the past couple of months, corresponding with the start of the flu season. My suspicions seem to have been confirmed by the lack of flu deaths this autumn. I can think of 2 reasons why this may be the case, and wonder if there are any health care professionals able to comment on my theory. Hospital deaths During the spring it was reported that hospitals had a red zone for Covid patients, and I assume this is still the case. If this is so it could be that all patients with symptons of a respiratory condition are admitted to the red zone as a precaution while waiting for test results. They would then be… Read more »

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karenovirus
karenovirus
5 years ago

Fall

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RyanM
RyanM
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

My six year old and I were walking out of target this afternoon, and he pointed out all the discarded masks in the parking lot.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
5 years ago
Reply to  RyanM

Feel free to vote down btw

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Ann
Ann
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Um. If we vote up, it might suggest we like what the picture shows. If we vote down, it might suggest we take your point, but object to it.
So I’ll just say I think the idea is brilliant.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
5 years ago
Reply to  Ann

It’s a work in progress, I was going to to donate it to Tate Modern but they only offered £60k, I’m holding out for 100.

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Ann
Ann
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

You do that.They seldom get a work of art that actually means something!

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Londo Mollari
Londo Mollari
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Now you’ll only get £22k.

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CGL
CGL
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

I think I know who you are!!!

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crimsonpirate
crimsonpirate
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

or dump it outside 10 Downing street

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karenovirus
karenovirus
5 years ago
Reply to  crimsonpirate

Excellent, I could launch a Commando Installation in the Rose Garden.

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RyanM
RyanM
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

I don’t understand. Why would I vote down?

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CGL
CGL
5 years ago
Reply to  RyanM

Because masks are disgusting- dirty or clean.

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hammers67
hammers67
5 years ago
Reply to  CGL

Like discarded nappies.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
5 years ago
Reply to  RyanM

Artistic angst

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Banjones
Banjones
5 years ago
Reply to  RyanM

It always strikes me that, if these muzzles were as effective as claimed, they’d be contaminated. Why are there no hazardous waste bins around for their disposal?

Of course, they’re not. They’re a nuisance, a sign of thralldom and control. One that our ”masters” are hoping we’ll readily swap for a dose of their very lucrative poison.

See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45F44ZuwL50

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Ann
Ann
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Oh, yuk yuk YUK.

All those horrid leaves! How can we bear it?
Chop down all the trees to keep us safe!

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Edward
Edward
5 years ago
Reply to  Ann

Can trees catch Covid? I don’t know, but I expect a 45-cycle PCR test on a leaf would show positive.

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Mel
Mel
5 years ago
Reply to  Edward

I dont know, but they cordoned off the trees in my son’s school field with yellow and black tape earlier this year, in case 2 kids touched the same tree and got covid.

Thankfully that madness has now passed.

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JohnB
JohnB
5 years ago
Reply to  Mel

Hope you have a photo, Mel, to wave in the head’s face in future times. 🙂

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Mel
Mel
5 years ago
Reply to  JohnB

I do. Unfortunately I dont have a picture of them laying out a path up and across the school field to make sure that two of the bubbles didnt accidentally walk on the same bit of grass.

I’m not joking.

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wendyk
wendyk
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

I found a ditsy designer version-fabric of course-dumped on the pavement near my home yesterday.

Covid-chic but the 3 ‘R’s have been dispensed with while We Stop The Spread : reuse, recycle,reduce now replaced by hands, face,space.

Will all future discourse be reduced to 3 word slogans I wonder? Much easier to control the plebs if grammar, complexity, syntax and vocabulary are dispensed with

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Ann
Ann
5 years ago
Reply to  wendyk

Newspeak.
Doubleplusgood gobbledygook .

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Proudtobeapeasant
Proudtobeapeasant
5 years ago
Reply to  wendyk

I’m an avid reader in my 60s but I only read 1984 last year, when my son lent it to me. Bits of still stick in my mind, one of which was the fact that the government was trying to reduce vocabulary, which I’m guessing is what you are referring to. I think you’re absolutely right. I have noticed in the last few years that certain words seem to be disappearing – like “oblong” for instance. You rarely hear that used any more – it’s always just “rectangle”. And you can bet your bottom drawer that when you hear the word “floor” it is not the floor that is being referred to but the “ground”, as if there’s no difference between the two. I am determined that I shall teach my grandchildren these two words.

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wendyk
wendyk
5 years ago
Reply to  Proudtobeapeasant

Quite agree: I’ve been observing with dismay, the constant shrinkage of our vocabulary,formerly so rich and varied,as it becomes colonised and stultified by the over use of clunky americanisms: paused, instead of suspended; prior to instead of before; majority of,instead of most; impact on instead of affect-this latter a particular bete noir of mine; avoid plus participle ,which has replaced the use of the negative: on medicine packages one now reads ‘avoid taking more than the stated dose’,whereas formerly one would see ‘do not exceed the stated does’.

Retreat/return back-which I loathe! Divert away,instead of divert. Qualifiers tacked on,as we’re all too stupid to understand self explanatory words.

And aggressiveness instead of aggression; paleness instead of pallor.

Finally, the perfect tense is rapidly becoming extinct: did you let the cat in? replaces have you let the cat in?

And adverbs are on their way out : he grew quicker, instead of he grew quickly.

All a result of the adoption of americanisms.

Rant over.

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Melangell
Melangell
5 years ago
Reply to  wendyk

Worstest of all is the “he was sat” instead of “sitting” – has crept into every article online and off! Pity the lonely gerund, sat in the gutter without a home.

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wendyk
wendyk
5 years ago
Reply to  Melangell

The gerund is threatened with extinction

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karenovirus
karenovirus
5 years ago
Reply to  Melangell

‘Went down beach’

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Ann
Ann
5 years ago
Reply to  Melangell

My gran said ‘he was sat down’, it’s good Yorkshire.

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watashi
watashi
5 years ago
Reply to  wendyk

agreed. we shouldnt shrink our vocabularies, just the opposite! my 6 yr olds new word for the day is woebegone.

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wendyk
wendyk
5 years ago
Reply to  watashi

Excellent

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Polemon2
Polemon2
5 years ago
Reply to  wendyk

Absolutely. — sorry meant
a) I agree, or sometimes
b) Yes — or even
c) Yes!!!!

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Eddie
Eddie
5 years ago
Reply to  wendyk

I’ll add my complete distaste for acronyms. I have no clue what most of them mean but I’d best get caught up on them asap haha

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stevie119
stevie119
5 years ago
Reply to  wendyk

The one I hate is “across” as in across the BBC etc. Bloody annoys me.

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ConstantBees
ConstantBees
5 years ago
Reply to  wendyk

I kept saying “Americanism” over and over as I read your post. Thanks for confirming. American English is slowly changing British English. Pain in the ass/arse for me since I carefully learned British English when I first came here in the 80s. Now I’m reverting back to American English since y’all are pretty much speaking it anyway.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
5 years ago
Reply to  ConstantBees

‘Fall’ title of start thread. ‘English’ or American ?
In many ways American is a purer form of English than current spoken ‘English’ which is why you retain ‘trash’ and ‘garbage’ while we only have ‘rubbish’.
Not sure why your aversion to the word ‘cock’ which is why you have rooster and faucet.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
5 years ago
Reply to  wendyk

It can only get worse going forward.

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ConstantBees
ConstantBees
5 years ago
Reply to  Proudtobeapeasant

That floor thing is another Americanism that’s crept over to the UK. I grew up in the US in the 60s and the ground was often called the floor, especially by children. I didn’t hear the floor for ground usage here in the UK until some time in the past year or so.

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Cranmer
Cranmer
5 years ago
Reply to  wendyk

I think ‘Work, Consume, Obey’ has a nice ring to it.

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wendyk
wendyk
5 years ago
Reply to  Cranmer

Yes, very appropriate for the times.

Or: mask, shield, stop.

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Yet again this baffles me as to why those who profess to care for the environment are silent on this.

Silly me, they don’t care about littering do they?

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GiftWrappedKittyCat
GiftWrappedKittyCat
5 years ago
Reply to  Bart Simpson

Exactly. The masks are bad enough but what about all the other plastic waste this nonsense has generated;
Vast increase in single use PPE I.e. plastic aprons etc.
supermarket deliveries reverting to using plastic bags.
Single use plastic cutlery and plates in cafes.
I could go on and I’m sure others can think of more examples but you get the idea.

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
5 years ago
Reply to  GiftWrappedKittyCat

And coffee cups after David Attenborough went on and on about them.

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Ann
Ann
5 years ago
Reply to  Bart Simpson

They trotted Dave out in Countryfile to exhort everyone to stay safe and stay home.
Time he was found a nice safe home in a cage with the spider monkeys.

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
5 years ago
Reply to  Ann

Agree. I’ve always wonder had David Bellamy still been alive if he would debate with David Attenborough and see who wins.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
5 years ago
Reply to  Ann

There’s a lovely mini zoo in Shaldon, Devon, with the most poisonous frog in the world. Dave could go there.

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Ann
Ann
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Frog would drop dead.

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RichardJames
RichardJames
5 years ago
Reply to  Ann

No. I would prefer chimpanzees. Three times as strong as a human, they tear their prey apart, literally limb from limb.

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Proudtobeapeasant
Proudtobeapeasant
5 years ago
Reply to  Bart Simpson

That’s partly what made me reluctant to go out with my cycling group again because they were going to cafes where they only did take away drinks. I thought – what happened to not using disposable cups any more? Is that no longer an issue??? I went once and took my flask, knowing we’d be sitting outside. One of the members, a lot better off than my husband and I, had, on a previous ride, criticized my re-use of a plastic bread bag for my home-made sandwiches (while she, hypocritically, got her takeaway food and drink) – “it’s still plastic” she said, telling me that all their bread was home made and therefore did not come in plastic bags…. She suggested I use beeswax wraps instead. I’ve always been an environmentally sort of person, but not I think, in the virtue signalling way of today, but her remark incensed me, particularly when I went home and just out of interest looked up the price of beeswax wraps. And yes I know I could make my own but I’m too busy cooking meals from scratch and mending other people’s clothes for pin money and riding my bike to go shopping (I… Read more »

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wendyk
wendyk
5 years ago
Reply to  Proudtobeapeasant

Well said,and I quite agree,having had similarly irrritating exoeriences.

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Sylvie
Sylvie
5 years ago
Reply to  Proudtobeapeasant

Please tell her that beeswax wraps and eating honey is exploitative of the bees- California, almond orchards, mass transit of hives, sudden death collapse etc etc – and she should have no truck with it.

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HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
5 years ago
Reply to  GiftWrappedKittyCat

You’re NOT supposed to notice all the extra plastic filth and waste generated by the Convid because it is the “excuse” that is needed for the “Great Reset” that our satanic Globalist masters have planned for us, which is going to be climate and planet driven! Notice the little climate puppet, Greta, is back spouting her nonsense…

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wendyk
wendyk
5 years ago
Reply to  GiftWrappedKittyCat

Plastic aprons, worn by GP, optician and dentist and his nurse: all seen within past 2 months.

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Cheezilla
Cheezilla
5 years ago
Reply to  wendyk

The disposable towels used by virtue signalling hairdressers completely incensed me.
Surely there are few things more launderable than a cotton towel?

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watashi
watashi
5 years ago
Reply to  Bart Simpson

baffled here too. I heard schools were using disposable plates & cutlery as well?

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LSceptic
LSceptic
5 years ago
Reply to  Bart Simpson

They’re embarrassed and pretend not to notice all the contaminated used masks everywhere.

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Anonymous
Anonymous
5 years ago
Reply to  LSceptic

Embarrassed? No, they’re just hypocritical assholes who never cared about the environment. Just something for them to be smug about and more selfishness cloaked in the care of other people/things.

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T inthecentre
T inthecentre
5 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

Spot on, like all virtue signallers they use a cause to boost their own ego and self-esteem when it suits them, then abandon it when the next popular cause comes along.

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OKUK
OKUK
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

…of civilisation.

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RyanM
RyanM
5 years ago

“without agreeing to a support package…”

What abject nonsense. The only opposition to your dystopian nightmare comes from politicians who are mad that it isn’t a more socialist dystopian nightmare.

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Ann
Ann
5 years ago
Reply to  RyanM

What would you spend £22 million on, folks?

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karenovirus
karenovirus
5 years ago
Reply to  Ann

It’s meant to be for more testing and Covid Marshals.
I’d spend it either on street parties or subversion.

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Suze Burtenshaw
Suze Burtenshaw
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

22 million would buy a few hitmen, I would imagine….

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Cheezilla
Cheezilla
5 years ago
Reply to  Suze Burtenshaw

Hopefully there would be a bit left over to fill in some potholes.

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GiftWrappedKittyCat
GiftWrappedKittyCat
5 years ago
Reply to  Ann

Leaving this pathetic excuse of a country and relocating somewhere with a modicum of sanity. Preferably a remote island somewhere.

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Sue
Sue
5 years ago
Reply to  GiftWrappedKittyCat

sounds bliss – i’ll join you! Actually i hope next year to take off round europe/elsewhere since i’m being made redundant in march time (by french company so is probably more brexit related than virus…) so may as well take the opportunity to escape this rotten grey little island of misery and flee to the sunshine and beaches.

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Adam
Adam
5 years ago
Reply to  GiftWrappedKittyCat

Most countries are not letting people in you could arrive on a dinghy to be welcomed by Pritti useless Bumbling Doris ,Hancock, Diane Abapotomus etc

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miahoneybee
miahoneybee
5 years ago
Reply to  GiftWrappedKittyCat

That’s a dream I have..keep us posted..

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T inthecentre
T inthecentre
5 years ago
Reply to  GiftWrappedKittyCat

How about Sweden? Dealt with Covid, no lockdown.

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ConstantBees
ConstantBees
5 years ago
Reply to  Ann

Deluxe catering for the vulnerable so they could stay in and we could go out.

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Cristi.Neagu
Cristi.Neagu
5 years ago

Would it be good for many of us to provide this sort of feedback?

Yes, but not copy paste it. Because then they can delete them all by claiming they’re spam.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
5 years ago

“The upshot is that Greater Manchester is only going to get £22 million” so only a few more cycle lanes then.

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JudgeMental
JudgeMental
5 years ago

My new slogan is “Fight back for Flu”. This new young virus has overstepped the mark as far as I’m concerned. What gives it the right to charge in and take over the number one spot from our reliable and established seasonal virus.

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Chris John
Chris John
5 years ago
Reply to  JudgeMental

There goes the neighbourhood

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Ann
Ann
5 years ago
Reply to  Chris John

Yes, Covid is so middle class.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
5 years ago
Reply to  Ann

Not a patch on the old Yuppie Flu

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Al Pipp
Al Pipp
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Wow! Well remembered. ME it was called. Lots of middle aged sad woman who traded on their looks seem to get this especially when dumped …

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Cheezilla
Cheezilla
5 years ago
Reply to  Al Pipp

I’ve had ME since my mid-30s and I wasn’t middle aged or dumped.
It’s a serious disease so stop taking the p*ss.

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Anonymous
Anonymous
5 years ago
Reply to  Al Pipp

IS called, and it stems from severe mitochondrial dysfuntion likely triggered by envoronmental factors (including pharmaceuticals). Many have been re-diagnosed with Post Viral Fatgue Syndrome. Some very young and very beautiful people have died from ME. (And men get it to, too).

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Mark
Mark
5 years ago
Reply to  JudgeMental

Yes, let’s have a “Campaign for Real Flu”.

I am fed up with this Chinese rubbish, killing our traditional viruses :-\

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Ann
Ann
5 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Said the flu:
“Boo hoo.
With this pesky Covvie virus
They can afford to retire us.”

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Al Pipp
Al Pipp
5 years ago
Reply to  JudgeMental

Agree. Also pneumonia, glandula fever, scarlett fever. Then the NHS diseases (caused by “I am too educated as a nurse to clean & most nurses are fatties’) ..
MRSA, CDIFF,vBef Sores (septicemia)

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Proudtobeapeasant
Proudtobeapeasant
5 years ago
Reply to  Al Pipp

I am always amazed by how many nurses are fat, when they above all people should know better. I was once at a motocross event where an ambulance was called and one of the paramedics was so fat you wondered how she’d ever get to the incident.

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LA_Bob
LA_Bob
5 years ago

Anywhere I can get that nice t-shirt?

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MiriamW-sometimes-AlanG
MiriamW-sometimes-AlanG
5 years ago
Reply to  LA_Bob

We want them as well! MW and AG

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watashi
watashi
5 years ago
Reply to  MiriamW-sometimes-AlanG

I`d like one too please

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Stuart
Stuart
5 years ago

This NHS Shutdown Genocide is coming along nicely and it will not be long before progress shows up in the statistics.

The sustainable population of this country is probably little more than the ten million of Napoleonic times – so there is some way to go yet.

In the meantime can we have more videos of TikToking nurses?

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calchas
calchas
5 years ago
Reply to  Stuart

Yes, excess mortality will start to rise, especially due to missed cancer screenings and cancelled cancer operations.

A proportion of these will ‘test positive’ helping to sustain the sham.

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Chris John
Chris John
5 years ago

6am starts and whisky- strictly business. But it also got me thinking, we have no Robin Hood figure in this story yet. One who is going to mobilise the rest of us. Who is going to be the one to shoot Wanksock so he is forced from the field?
That’s the person we’re all waiting for.
Is that person you?

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HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
5 years ago
Reply to  Chris John

Or…it could be you!

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D B
D B
5 years ago
Reply to  HelenaHancart

No, it should always be someone else…

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Cranmer
Cranmer
5 years ago
Reply to  Chris John

Nick Whitcombe of Body Tech gym on the Wirral is so far, the only person I have heard of to actually refuse to obey the junta, at the risk of losing his livelihood and presumably, eventual imprisonment. He is an incredibly brave man and we should all be supporting him.

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ConstantBees
ConstantBees
5 years ago
Reply to  Cranmer

Have been already. A fiver the other day and another fiver yesterday. I understand that they may have backed down and let the gyms operate in Liverpool. I hope so since other businesses need to band together and fight for their lives.

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Ann
Ann
5 years ago

The opening of a hard-hutting article:

Children and young people are at risk of becoming a “lost generation” because of the UK government’s pandemic policies, members of Sage have warned.
Those aged seven to 24, sometimes called generation Z, have largely avoided the direct health impact of the coronavirus. But, say the government’s scientific advisers, they risk being “catastrophically” hit by the “collateral damage” wrought by the crisis.

And where will you find this article, linked to above by Will/Toby?

The Grauniad!!!

Who let that journalist out of her cage, I wonder?

And the sheer bloody GALL. of Sage ( who know not their onions anyway) denouncing the murderous tyranny that they themselves imposed … Stuff them!

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Barney McGrew
Barney McGrew
5 years ago
Reply to  Ann

I haven’t read the article, but I suggest that Guardian readers will see it from the angle that if Boris had acted earlier with stronger measures we wouldn’t be in this mess.

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Will
Will
5 years ago
Reply to  Barney McGrew

Like Spain…

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Adam
Adam
5 years ago
Reply to  Barney McGrew

Johnson is and was always unfit to lead a charge across a minefield let alone a country

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JohnB
JohnB
5 years ago
Reply to  Adam

Johnson is and was always unfit to lead a charge across a minefield …

I’d be happy for him to practise and practise, until he got better at it.

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Ann
Ann
5 years ago
Reply to  JohnB

You mean, until the mines got better at it?

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T inthecentre
T inthecentre
5 years ago
Reply to  Barney McGrew

If it helps, Guardian readers can see sense, I know, I used to be one. Between the championing of the undemocratic remain movement (after the referendum), wokeness, “progressives,” and the hyperbolic fear factory of their Covid newsfeed back in March, I couldn’t take it anymore. Just didn’t want to associate myself with what the left and their media had turned into.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
5 years ago
Reply to  Ann

I see they are blaming it on the Coronovirus rather than johnsons ridiculous Lockdown, which SAGE would like to be stricter and so cause even more mental anguish.

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Ann
Ann
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Even so, you’d think they’d have noticed that the original shutdown is now long past and it’s today’s Armageddon they need to do something about.

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maggie may
maggie may
5 years ago
Reply to  Ann

I think there are about 100 people in total in SAGE. Not surprising if they don’t all share the views of the ones that are seen on the BBC Robert Dingwall is a sociologist and has written sceptical articles and he is a member of SAGE. Mike Yeadon has more information in his recent article that was featured on LS

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Caroline Watson
Caroline Watson
5 years ago
Reply to  Ann

But their number one remedy is Universal Basic Handout!

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Helen
Helen
5 years ago

BRI Bavaria and Germany

Germany Marcu Söder Minister president Bavaria
From Söders facebook Feb 2020

Chinas vice president is welcomed to Munich. China is Bavaria’s most important trade partner for building of our business performance with 1,500 companies with trade contracts. WE need not only stable relationship with one another but also reliable framework conditions for German companies as an important component of our economic performance

 www.sfe.org.uk/news/china-s-belt-and-road-initiative/

In Europe, Germany is now the most important export market and the most important supplier country for China. The People’s Republic is both a partner and competitor of Germany and Bavaria. This calls for a balanced, strategic approach to shaping economic relations. We must work worldwide for open markets and equal economic treatment and advocate that the opportunities offered by German-Chinese economic relations can be realized fairly and in a future-oriented manner. This study explains the framework conditions for economic relations between China and Bavaria and Germany, analyzes data on developments in recent years and discusses the opportunities and risks of both countries.
Bertram Brossardt July 21, 2020

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Adam
Adam
5 years ago
Reply to  Helen

Ah Munich from fascism now to Communism

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Ann
Ann
5 years ago

Ten alleged Covideaths in Wales yesterday.
Total population only around 3 million Soon there’ll be nobody left alive.

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CGL
CGL
5 years ago
Reply to  Ann

You’ll have the whole country to yourself and Sceptics will have a promised land!

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Mark
Mark
5 years ago
Reply to  Ann

Don’t worry.

Drakeford and his mates will be just fine.

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Ann
Ann
5 years ago
Reply to  Mark

So shall I.
I will live to dance on their graves, with clogs on.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
5 years ago

Dave Cullen @ computing forever YouTube great new vid today.

‘Possible Leaked Roadmap for Next Phase of the Agenda’

Well worth 20 minutes of your time, perhaps someone more skilled than I could post the link (posting with Android so don’t know how).

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Barney McGrew
Barney McGrew
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

I will go and make a coffee and settle down to watch it…

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mj
mj
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Here is the link

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karenovirus
karenovirus
5 years ago
Reply to  mj

thank you mjr

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miahoneybee
miahoneybee
5 years ago
Reply to  mj

Thank you..its been passed on to all I know sceptics and non sceptic friends if only to plant the seed of thought..😉

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karenovirus
karenovirus
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Yeah, should have put a trigger warning !

Congrats for seeing it through.

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Helen
Helen
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Yes LS99 exactly my reaction too..

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karenovirus
karenovirus
5 years ago
Reply to  Helen

Best to know thine enemy and their plans

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Jonathan Smith
Jonathan Smith
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

That was a massive caveat at the beginning. “No idea if this is true or not… but here goes anyway…” Forfeit assets for total debt relief? That’s not debt relief! LMAO. Paranoid conspiracy nonsense. About as plausible as The Protocols of the Elders of Zion.

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Barney McGrew
Barney McGrew
5 years ago
Reply to  Jonathan Smith

What if the deal is something like you get to keep the asset but can’t pass it on when you die? I am open to the idea that under cover of the Covid ’emergency’ and the destruction of the economy (hard not to conclude that is happening), the government might be able to justify such a radical measure.

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JohnB
JohnB
5 years ago
Reply to  Jonathan Smith

Given the current state of our society, what do you find implausible about the Protocols ? (Apart from their authorship, naturally).

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Ewan Duffy
Ewan Duffy
5 years ago
Reply to  Jonathan Smith

What about those of us with assets but no debt (happy to declare that I am in that category)?

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BeBopRockSteady
BeBopRockSteady
5 years ago
Reply to  Ewan Duffy

Same. No debt.

I think that leaked memo is the stuff of nightmares but best left to others to pursue. The authenticity is not credible for now.

Cashless society is coming however.

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PastImperfect
PastImperfect
5 years ago
Reply to  BeBopRockSteady

Cashless society is the same as total control.

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Anonymous
Anonymous
5 years ago
Reply to  BeBopRockSteady

Go read United Nations Agenda 21… or the Great Reset by Klaus Schwab. Credible enough for you?

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JohnB
JohnB
5 years ago
Reply to  Ewan Duffy

What about those of us with assets but no debt … ?

Me too. They’ll shoot us.

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RichardJames
RichardJames
5 years ago
Reply to  JohnB

Completely incorrect; they’ll bring in negative interest rates to steal your savings a little at a time, then follow it up with a “wealth tax” and much lower exemptions on inheritance tax. Also possibly a capital gains tax and VAT on investment gold (although that won’t work, as the coins will simply and rapidly become the “new cash”.

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VeryLittleHelps
VeryLittleHelps
5 years ago
Reply to  Jonathan Smith

Whether or not this document is genuine, the core message is not far from the truth. It is no conspiracy that the UN’s Agenda 2030 and the World Economic Forum, are trying to put us on a roadmap to a future were we no longer own anything. They want us to rent everything from the big corporations, just look at Welcome to 2030. I own nothing, have no privacy, and life has never been better.
The only question is are they just taking advantage of the situation to forward their goals or are they controlling it.

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PastImperfect
PastImperfect
5 years ago
Reply to  VeryLittleHelps

Controlling it.

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VeryLittleHelps
VeryLittleHelps
5 years ago
Reply to  PastImperfect

This is my gut feeling too. Prepare to call me a nutcase, but I believe the whole situation was manufactured, with the help of China. The hows I don’t know the whys are pretty obvious now. There I said it, but I cannot prove it so these thoughts are merely conjecture. Whether I am right or not, we have to fight this “new normal” as hard as we can. However at the moment I am not seeing a high chance of victory.

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PastImperfect
PastImperfect
5 years ago
Reply to  VeryLittleHelps

Judy Mikovitz was outspoken about the outcome of this dystopia soon after the C-19 pandemic was declared ( and then ‘undeclared’ almost immediately).

Covid-19 is not a disease of significance. However, it is an Event of great existential consequence.

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charleyfarley
charleyfarley
5 years ago
Reply to  VeryLittleHelps

I agree, Rich. Even if large number of people could come together to fight this – by no means a foregone conclusion – how could we succeed if TPTB are determined to bring it in? It would/will require a powerful political movement.

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Kevin 2
Kevin 2
5 years ago
Reply to  Jonathan Smith

Your comment would have seemed apposite a month ago.
What about in a month from now?

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Anonymous
Anonymous
5 years ago
Reply to  Jonathan Smith

You’re a bit slow, aren’t you? Or just extremely lazy,

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ConstantBees
ConstantBees
5 years ago
Reply to  Jonathan Smith

I’ve watched a number of his videos. Usually he gets to a point that seems so far-fetched that I bail without watching the whole thing.

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VeryLittleHelps
VeryLittleHelps
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Dave Cullens YouTube channel has been going for years, it was just a video game and film review channel with a lot of subscribers. He has always torn apart really woke films, so his channel was always a bit political. But unlike Icke et al Daves channel never touched on any kind of conspiracy, until the corona came along. He has probably lost subscribers as a result of his views, so it is good to remember he is not doing this for self glorification or to make money (being as most of his recent videos have probably been demonetized).

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PastImperfect
PastImperfect
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

https://www.bitchute.com/video/zbk5nLf5TwLA/?fbclid=IwAR24KUjCRJsU8y6jfe2SuflNRw0IiRqZgu-KinTFObqtDTfA4RkLVXMzAO4

Pastor seems to understand.

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PastImperfect
PastImperfect
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Another version

https://www.bitchute.com/video/lKCTkLJbtT4/?fbclid=IwAR3a190xOI21KIOISR23EZMq4wqAZKQrZ-EVLKyJSiiZUdiECZn6qWfoGX8

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Helen
Helen
5 years ago

F.A.Z.: Time of Death and World Time – October 14, 2020 Geert Mak on the consequences of state corona measures – “revolutions are in the air”. Contrary to political assertions, the erosion of democracy in fast motion is – and this is Mak’s remarkable approach – not a temporary phenomenon, but the threat of a permanent state of affairs. In a recent epilogue of his “Great Expectations” published by Settlers, Dutch essayist Geert Mak has warned of the long-term effects of the crisis on open society. According to Mak, the world is facing a new age of global repression, reports the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung (F.A.Z.) (Mainstream news) “Several states will not give up the rules and measures with which they control their populations so quickly, history teaches us”, the newspaper Mak quotes. Referring to the Hungarian-American historian John Lukacs, who died last year, Mak even believes, that “the end of five centuries of bourgeois culture is possible, because in his opinion there are many indications that a future ‘with less prosperity, less freedom and less openness’ lies ahead for us all. Editor’s opinion: Mak points to a trend that can be observed globally. Western countries, in particular, are leveraging their… Read more »

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wendyk
wendyk
5 years ago

https://unherd.com/2020/10/how-cancel-culture-captured-campus/ This article is well worth reading, as it considers the seemingly unstoppable encroachment of woke dogma . Its conclusions are alarming and confirm my suspicion that Woke rejection of dissent and common sense has infected- deliberate choice of word- the establishment’s disastrous lockdown strategies. Deaths of the very old and frail have essentially been weaponised, as the emotional manipulation of the gullible and compliant public continues apace. So the left/ lib bias in the MSM produces ad hominem attacks on eminent scientists and medics who support the GBD and continues to label dissenters as callous and irresponsible. Professor Heneghan observes, quite correctly, that the UK’s population is growing and ageing., and the death rate rises accordingly. I’m no spring chicken, but I’m not in any sense vulnerable; I’ve got a Living Will and a DNR card; my choice, my considered decision. The wholesale devastation and wilful destruction of lives and livelihoods, general well being and hopes for the future, enthusiastically imposed by financially secure politicians , seemingly ad infinitum now ,threatens to dismantle any semblance of representative democracy for the future. Informed consent, so crucial has been denied ; informed dissent has been suppressed, aided by the blatant double… Read more »

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karenovirus
karenovirus
5 years ago
Reply to  wendyk

See Alex Belfield YouTube
‘Wow reality check’ posted today.

Kemi Badenoch MP gives critical theory & blm a good kicking in the Commons.

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peter
peter
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Good on her, BLM dragged race relations back to the stone age.

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Al Pipp
Al Pipp
5 years ago
Reply to  wendyk

Well said. The boomers in the 1945-55 group are due to die around 2025. Actuary told me to invest in funeral parlours. Actuaries are so excited because this the removal of final salary pensioners which are a real drag to our public sector and blue chip companies. I know a 90yr old that went to University and PHD and retired at 55 on final salary pension and has been retired longer than his working life. Lazy spoilt generation. Actuaries are waiting

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wendyk
wendyk
5 years ago
Reply to  Al Pipp

Actually I’m one, but a relatively poor one,who got my first Saturday job aged 15,as our father could no longer afford pocket money.

At university as a very mature student, I had to work in the holidays to make ends meet, while my mainly middle class young colleagues went home.

However, I do agree with you, not least because of the no-questions-asked winter fuel payments and free bus passes which are dished out to all, regardless of income and assets.

I haven’t got a final salary pension either, having had a lengthy period of ill health, but I fully acknowledge the protections and comparative security which we, as a group, receive,and which will be denied to the young.

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Jakehadlee
Jakehadlee
5 years ago
Reply to  wendyk

I try to be optimistic- I think the whole “woke” movement is over-playing it’s hand. It’s got strength at the moment because most people don’t realise what they are doing.

But rather like the Labour movement and the unions in the 70s, they aren’t quite smart enough to see where they are taking things and the backlash will be savage.

Not that what came as backlash for the unions was much better than they were, but all the same they have never recovered and I suspect wokeness will be the same.

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Caroline Watson
Caroline Watson
5 years ago
Reply to  Jakehadlee

The tide is certainly turning on the ‘gender’ bollocks. Liz Truss has refused to amend the GRA to allow ‘gender’ self ID (it should be abolished altogether), the BBC has disengaged from the child abuse organisation Mermaids, and schools have been told to stop teaching children that, if they like certain toys and clothes, they must ‘really’ be the other sex.
I even filled in a civil service survey the other day that asked, ‘What sex are you?’, although it was followed by a load of ‘gender’ rubbish that I ignored. Last year it was ‘Which sex were you assigned at birth?’ Some progress, though they’re still bombarding us with the BLM stuff.

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T inthecentre
T inthecentre
5 years ago
Reply to  Caroline Watson

I’m hoping BLM will peter out just like every other virtue signalling craze. Kemi Badenoch did a great job in the commons laying into it and their critical race theory.

https://www.rt.com/op-ed/504168-black-british-mp-racism/

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Tim Bidie
Tim Bidie
5 years ago

My feedback on GOV.UK ‘Coronavirus in the UK’ page Dear Sir, My feedback on your Coronavirus in the UK page is as follows: 1. A positive PCR test is not a case. 2. Because a positive PCR test is not a case, not necessarily at all infectious, R numbers are impossible to calculate 3. ONS state: ‘This table includes provisional counts of the number of deaths registered in England and Wales, by age, sex and region, in the latest weeks for which data are available. Includes the most up-to-date figures available for deaths involving the coronavirus (COVID-19).’ ‘Involving’ is not the same as ’caused by’. Are your covid 19 death figures ‘involving’ or ’caused by’? 4. Your rise in positive PCR tests and covid 19 deaths is not showing up in either weekly or monthly ONS overall all cause mortality which has been plumb normal for the time of year since the end of May 2020. That is because: ‘….most data for all countries is in agreement with our interpretation, namely, PCR positives do not correlate to deaths in the future and are therefore meaningless, on their own, to interpret the spread of the virus in terms of potential deaths.’ … Read more »

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Ann
Ann
5 years ago
Reply to  Tim Bidie

Dear Sir
You are a person with a brain.
This government only deals in zombies without a brain.
Go away.
Yrs fauthfully
The government.

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Cranmer
Cranmer
5 years ago
Reply to  Tim Bidie

Dear Tim
Hows yourself? We are in receipt at this current moment in time of your email letter communication and in due course shortly will be passing it on to colleagues in our Rapid Customer Actions Response Team who will be replying back to you in due course shortly within approved regulatory timeframes. We at UK Government value your feedback and are striving towards achieving fairness and diversity for all within a Covid-safe environment.
Yours
Karen Clipboards
UK Gov Customer Feedback Liaison Teams Managing Leader (Diversity and Inclusion Section).

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Tom Atkinson
Tom Atkinson
5 years ago

Hi Toby,

Re Google hiding the Great Barrington Declaration:

Stop using Google as your search engine. A couple of years ago, I switched to DuckDuckGo.com as my search engine because, even then, Google was starting to become “unreliable”.

Having used it for a couple of years, I can attest that there is nothing it doesn’t have in its database that Google has. You’re not missing anything, in other words.

The big difference is that DuckDuckGo does not censor, like Google does. Search for “Great Barrington Declaration” and it comes up as the FIRST link.

In fact these are the links that are returned, in order:

  1. The link to the GBD page;
  2. The link to the Wikipedia page on the GBD;
  3. A link to a HITC news article about the GBD;
  4. and onwards, links to other news stories about the GBD.

Stop using Google. You will not miss it!

Best regards and keep up the good work!

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Steve-Devon
Steve-Devon
5 years ago
Reply to  Tom Atkinson

I rather think that as my computer is a chromebook I am rather stuck with google?

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kenadams
kenadams
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

No you can change it. Right click in the search bar and in the options/setting functions somewhere you can change the default search engine to whatever you want.

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
5 years ago
Reply to  kenadams

And its easy to do as well.

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Basics
Basics
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

Go to settings in your browser and see. Using Chrome you are able to make duckduckgo the default browser.

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VeryLittleHelps
VeryLittleHelps
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

just go to duckduckgo.com and type search directly into webpage. Works on any browser on every system. Unfortunately I have a feeling that duckduckgo might be doing a bit of censoring as well. I usually search using dogpile as well just to make sure (dogpile.com).

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jb12
jb12
5 years ago
Reply to  Tom Atkinson

The point is that the general public who have heard of it and want to find out more will use Google.

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
5 years ago
Reply to  Tom Atkinson

Unfortunately Google is what people know. I only stumbled upon Duck Duck Go because I was getting fed up with Google’s unreliability.

That said, one has no choice when it comes to a phone as its using Google.

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Sarigan
Sarigan
5 years ago
Reply to  Bart Simpson

I use brave browser and duck and go on my phone

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Nessimmersion
Nessimmersion
5 years ago
Reply to  Bart Simpson

DDG is also available as an app for your phone.
Similarly you can use Brave browser, again an installable App.
I use both as alternatives.
One of Braves limitations is it will only let you read posts like this, i have to use firefox to comment?

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Arkansas
Arkansas
5 years ago
Reply to  Nessimmersion

You can change the Brave settings for a particular website by clicking the lion icon and, for example, toggling whether scripts are disabled/enabled. I’m commenting using Brave right now.

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Nessimmersion
Nessimmersion
5 years ago
Reply to  Arkansas

Thank you

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
5 years ago
Reply to  Nessimmersion

That’s a good idea – will check it out.

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MiriamW-sometimes-AlanG
MiriamW-sometimes-AlanG
5 years ago
Reply to  Tom Atkinson

DuckDuckGo is better than Google but a search returns 5 anti-GBD links in the top 8. Wikipedia has been got at so they are anti as well. MW

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Steve Hayes
Steve Hayes
5 years ago

At the Coronavirus Daily Update on 10 April 2020, Matt Hancock, the Health Secretary, stated that the government had not made any attempt to assess how many people would die as a result of the government’s lockdown measures. This was an admission that the government had adopted a irrational, irresponsible and incompetent approach to policy-making. I expected to hear howls of anger, but all I heard, apart from me complaining, was silence.

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Adam
Adam
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve Hayes

While Johnson is a clown Hancock is truly a awful human being with the IQ of a nail and the personality of a Weed

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Chris John
Chris John
5 years ago
Reply to  Adam

Knotweed

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Ann
Ann
5 years ago
Reply to  Chris John

Yes. Useless, inedible, disgusting and rampant.
But you can kill it with Roundup.

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MiriamW-sometimes-AlanG
MiriamW-sometimes-AlanG
5 years ago
Reply to  Ann

True! Unfortunately, he’s been genetically modified and so therefore he’s ‘Roundup Ready’. MW

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PastImperfect
PastImperfect
5 years ago
Reply to  Ann

Roundup? Not in my garden.

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Cheezilla
Cheezilla
5 years ago
Reply to  Adam

Weeds are much nicer!

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Mark
Mark
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve Hayes

And no risk assessment every carried out on his mask mandate either.

Given that you can hardly have a new light switch without having a formal risk assessment, that alone should be a massive red flag.

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Basileus
Basileus
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve Hayes

To quote from Dad’s Army, ‘His name will go on the list’.

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Ann
Ann
5 years ago
Reply to  Basileus

Don’t tell him yours, Basileus.

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Cranmer
Cranmer
5 years ago
Reply to  Basileus

I vant my chips nice und crispy.

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James Bertram
James Bertram
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve Hayes

However, Vallance stated that there was a government report in April (end of?) that 200,000 could die as a result of the Lockdown measures.
So Hancock was, once again, lying.

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Steve Hayes
Steve Hayes
5 years ago
Reply to  James Bertram

The report was dated 8 April, but it did not appear until either Valance or Whitty mentioned it to a House of Commons Select Committee in May. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/initial-estimates-of-excess-deaths-from-covid-19-8-april-2020

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charleyfarley
charleyfarley
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve Hayes

Steve, I sincerely hope that his statement will form part of the evidence against him one day – perhaps before the International Criminal Court.

I won’t hold my breath though.

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Tim Bidie
Tim Bidie
5 years ago

Re ‘Excellent letter by Brian Cattle, an epidemiologist turned airline pilot’ above

Link not working

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John ballard
John ballard
5 years ago

Wow. Immense update today. Why can’t the muppets in government and opposition read this.

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Ann
Ann
5 years ago
Reply to  John ballard

Because they’re muppets.
Keep up, Kermit!

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BeBopRockSteady
BeBopRockSteady
5 years ago
Reply to  John ballard

I thought the same. So much good stuff. More hopeful today.

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Ceriain
Ceriain
5 years ago
Reply to  John ballard

You can bet your bottom dollar that they are.

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Mark
Mark
5 years ago

Covid ICU admissions up, pneumonia and flu down eh?

Surely they are not rebranding them as Covid, so as to keep the crisis and the fear going, so they can bring in their “New Normal”, are they….?

Or does Covid now cure these two respiratory illnesses? It seems it can tell the time, differentiate between people who are on-duty and off-duty and standing and sitting in pubs, so perhaps it is a miracle cure as well.

One thing is certain. They are not going to admit that Covid or not, deaths are just where you would expect them to be in a normal year. That would never do.

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Janice21
Janice21
5 years ago
Reply to  Mark

We all know that on here but whats so annoying is most of the masked population aren’t questioning this data!
Although it’s not fully flu season here yet, the figures will be interesting to look at in the coming months to see just how clever Covid is at being able to drastically minimise seasonal flu and pneumonia.

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Mark
Mark
5 years ago
Reply to  Janice21

“most of the masked population aren’t questioning this data!”

Sadly no. All the propaganda since March seems to have first fried, then sealed their brains against all alternative views.

But then that’s not surprising, as fear inhibits rational thought.

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Basileus
Basileus
5 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Well if say 80% of tests are false positive and many true positives (if they exist) are symptomless, surely it stands to reason that other respiratory infections will be branded as covid. So figures for ‘flu etc go down

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karenovirus
karenovirus
5 years ago
Reply to  Mark

ONS has already said it would no longer be providing separate figures for flu and Covid.
They just don’t care if we know they are taking the piss.

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matt
matt
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

They’re still separating the figures, just reporting them both in the same file.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
5 years ago
Reply to  matt

Thanks, must have misunderstood

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MiriamW-sometimes-AlanG
MiriamW-sometimes-AlanG
5 years ago
Reply to  matt

Unfortunately, that doesn’t stop them being lumped together when they are reported to the public. Who’s going to bother to check the file? MW

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Peter Thompson
Peter Thompson
5 years ago

Went to my Covid ” safe ” barber…and being a Covid disciple the ritual gets even more kafkaesque each visit. there is the obligatory filling in of the T and T form, hand washing etc and this visit was ended with the request to put my cash into a bowl of diluted dettol .

The conversation in these dark times instead of holidays and weather tends to be dominated with the ” virus” . He told me that his GP surgery was ” excellent ” because they were dolling out the flu jabs without the patient having to go into the building. Apparently the nurse in a haz mat suit leans out the window as they walk by.

The problem is that 8 months of insanity like we have experienced is enough to brainwash unreasoning people into believimng that the future is indeed one where what you might consider a Dr Who set is the norm.

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Lockdown_Lunacy
Lockdown_Lunacy
5 years ago
Reply to  Peter Thompson

Time to find a new barber.

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calchas
calchas
5 years ago
Reply to  Lockdown_Lunacy

…and make sure the present one knows why you are taking your custom elsewhere.

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Sarigan
Sarigan
5 years ago
Reply to  Peter Thompson

Turkish barbers seem to be mask free zones. All local to me are.

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Cheezilla
Cheezilla
5 years ago
Reply to  Sarigan

Yes. My son uses a Turkish barber. All perfectly old normal plus a great haircut and beardtrim.

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
5 years ago
Reply to  Peter Thompson

I get the feeling that your barber is setting himself up to go out of business.

The hairdressers in my area are pretty much ghost towns either people are staying away from them and are doing hairdressing themselves or have found less dystopian ones.

There are also increasingly a number of hairdressers going out of business as the novelty of going to a hairdresser after months of lockdown has worn off.

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thinkaboutit
thinkaboutit
5 years ago
Reply to  Bart Simpson

I changed my hairdresser of many years because of the ridiculous covid claptrap which included getting my temperature taken.
I found someone local who observes good hygiene without expecting me or her to dress like a serial killer. I do wonder about the previous hairdresser, as you say we were all desperate for a haircut before but who wants to go through all that rigmarole for a haircut.

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
5 years ago
Reply to  thinkaboutit

I stopped going to my hairdresser because they required a muzzle and that my hair should be wet. Given that its a tube ride away with numerous stops, my hair would be dry by the time I got there.

I don’t want them to go bust particularly as they’re good and their prices are competitive but given their insane measures maybe they should.

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thinkaboutit
thinkaboutit
5 years ago
Reply to  Bart Simpson

The rules are insane. Hot soapy water will wash Covid away ( why do they think we were told to wash our hands?).

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
5 years ago
Reply to  thinkaboutit

Agree. My hairdresser always washed her hands between clients and so why all these insane measures?

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calchas
calchas
5 years ago
Reply to  Bart Simpson

Yes, they should go bust.

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Londo Mollari
Londo Mollari
5 years ago
Reply to  Bart Simpson

There are mobile ones (usually for the ladies) who were doing their job even during the first part of the lockdown. I don’t think anyone got ill, but I don’t know for sure.

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
5 years ago
Reply to  Londo Mollari

Have not seen one in my area but have seen a mobile pet grooming service.

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wendyk
wendyk
5 years ago
Reply to  Londo Mollari

I’ve just found one;she’s excellent ,doesn’t overcharge but does insist on wearing her mask in the home.

She’s quite happy to accept my bare faced presence though and is actually better than the Covid gauleiter whom I used to visit.

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JohnB
JohnB
5 years ago
Reply to  Peter Thompson

this visit was ended with the request to put my cash into a bowl of diluted dettol.

I’d have been tempted to stick my £10 note in there as a quick as poss. Followed by ‘Oh, sorry’. 🙂

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Cheezilla
Cheezilla
5 years ago
Reply to  JohnB

Maybe that’s why notes are now made of plastic?

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VeryLittleHelps
VeryLittleHelps
5 years ago
Reply to  Peter Thompson

I have got quite good at cutting my own hair. 🙂

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PastImperfect
PastImperfect
5 years ago

A must view:

https://www.facebook.com/HighWireTalk/videos/438847850415518

(CGL posted the link yesterday, but it is too good to miss and it might be inspirational.)

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Londo Mollari
Londo Mollari
5 years ago
Reply to  PastImperfect

This is on Bitchute also.

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PastImperfect
PastImperfect
5 years ago
Reply to  Londo Mollari

Thanks. The expert guests destroy mask nonsense and tell how they made Michigan free again. Del shows how CO2 levels quickly rise with masks.

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Stuart
Stuart
5 years ago

Drakeford and his cabal of national socialists in the “Senedd” have demonstrated that here is one “devolved assembly” that should be terminated without delay.

Perhaps someone could interest Cummings in the project.

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Mark
Mark
5 years ago
Reply to  Stuart

I’m afraid they are doing pretty much what he wants. So you might have a long wait.

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Nick Rose
Nick Rose
5 years ago
Reply to  Stuart

Just vote for a party who wants to abolish it. Ukip had this platform a few years ago.

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Adam
Adam
5 years ago

The dummy version of BoZo would do a better job than the fat idiot real thing, We can’t let these fools remain in office https://www.remove-the-tory-government.org

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Ann
Ann
5 years ago

Foolishly, I looked at the comments on the Western Telegraph‘s all-back-to-jail story.

Oh vomit vomit. Lock us down harder, dob in your neighbour, why are children still allowed to go to school, waaah waaah waah.

The reason, of course, as I know from experience, is that any sceptical comment is immediately deleted, leaving the impression that Pembrokeshire is entirely populated by zombies.
I think the other Welsh local papers are the same?

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Nick Rose
Nick Rose
5 years ago
Reply to  Ann

Very likely. And not only are sceptical comments deleted, but certain parties actually working for the government are probably adding a lot of comments. Click on username and find out when they registered. If it was any later than 1st March, they might be far from local…

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Londo Mollari
Londo Mollari
5 years ago
Reply to  Ann

Walesonline (Western mail) comments are pro-lockdown, but even there I sense a much more sceptical tone of late. If you go on Walesonline’s Facebook page there is much more of a critical air. Real people generally using their real names. Of course, I can’t rule out the Govt trolling with “Don’t kill your granny” messages.

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Anonymous
Anonymous
5 years ago
Reply to  Ann

Don’t forget the 77th Brigade.

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Mel
Mel
5 years ago

Why is London Tier 2?

https://coronavirus-staging.data.gov.uk/details/deaths?areaType=region&areaName=London

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matt
matt
5 years ago
Reply to  Mel

Because Khan

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Mel
Mel
5 years ago
Reply to  matt

But why is nobody asking the questions!!

London appears to have herd immunity.

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matt
matt
5 years ago
Reply to  Mel

Fascinating, isn’t it? The argument for going into tier 2 in the first place wasn’t remotely convincing, even if you believe that Covid is an existential threat and yet, nobody questioned it at the time and nobody’s questioning it now. I do think that part of it is probably a Westminster political response to the complaint that the north was being punished arbitrarily because the tories don’t care about the north.

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Mel
Mel
5 years ago
Reply to  matt

What annoys me is the responses coming from the likes of Andy Burnham and Dan Jarvis in Sheffield. If they were looking hard enough there is the smoking gun for why we shouldn’t be getting locked down – deaths won’t go up and up, because look at London. Burnham in particular has got the platform to do it.

Head. Bang. On. Desk.

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matt
matt
5 years ago
Reply to  Mel

Burnham has been especially irritating. As you say, if his aim was to avoid tier 3 for Manchester, then all of the evidence and the numbers were there for him to argue against it (plateaued/falling +ve tests, lack of pressure on hospitals, tiny death rates), but basically he just wanted cash. Bung me a hundred million and you can lock up my city. Pretty revolting.

Khan’s motivation has more to do with publicity, I think. He can’t stand that the ‘crisis’ might be over in London because it takes away his platform of righteous concern.

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peyrole
peyrole
5 years ago
Reply to  matt

Like everyone he runs scared of the media. I cringed listening to the questions he faced yesterday. He would have been hung out to dry if he had merely questioned ‘the law’. Of course they all know the numbers, he has had Heneghan advising, but their political futures are dead if they question the dogma because of the media.
So much of this is because of unrelenting media pressure.
I remain convinced that when the 5 November and its outcome is known the media pressure will start to ease and there will be more ability for alternative policies to be followed. This is run from the US.

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
5 years ago
Reply to  Mel

Because Khan is an idiot. He knows that he’s been rumbled about his failure to deal with knife crime, housing and transport.

It’s the disease of “wanting to be seen to be doing something”

Not content with turning the City of London into a ghost town, he’s doing the same for the West End.

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Albie
Albie
5 years ago

Are journos slowly waking up to the fact that the fall out from lockdown is a far bigger story than Covid ever should have been?

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steve_w
steve_w
5 years ago
Reply to  Albie

it was always going to come, just later than I hoped

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Albie
Albie
5 years ago
Reply to  steve_w

Thinking about it, if I was a young journo wanting to make a name for myself there is plenty to get my teeth into. The only issue is long articles in the broadsheets (online too) won’t appeal to the masses. The only questioning voice on the BBC is Deborah Cohen hidden away on Newsnight. It used to be said the Daily Mail set the news agenda. Not any more. It’s the BBC. While they still report statistics without giving any context it’s futile to hope for the current situation to change.

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OKUK
OKUK
5 years ago
Reply to  Albie

You’re right about Deborah Cohen. An honourable exception asking meaningful questions. The rest of the BBC , just about everyone, is fully signed up to the hokum, no doubt feeling – correctly – that their careers depend on doing so.

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Londo Mollari
Londo Mollari
5 years ago
Reply to  Albie

How about “Tory Nazi lockdown death toll holocaust horror” as a tabloid headline? Or, In Wales, “Labour Nazi . . etc”

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PastImperfect
PastImperfect
5 years ago
Reply to  Albie

“if I was a young journo wanting to make a name for myself there is plenty to get my teeth into.”

But the fat controllers won’t allow it to be printed or broadcast.

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
5 years ago
Reply to  Albie

Yep. And are a few months behind us.

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Janice21
Janice21
5 years ago

Just wanted to shout out to Janeintheminefield and say I hope you’re ok today x

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Mike C
Mike C
5 years ago

Just caught Toby’s most recent podcast, only one complaint.

Can I suggest that we should now be calling Boris ‘our CURRENT Prime Minister’. It’s surely impossible that he will survive a well planned leadership challenge in 2021? Once the MSN start to speak up again they’ll destroy him.

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Will
Will
5 years ago
Reply to  Mike C

Unless he bails because it isn’t quite the jolly japes and games of wiff waff that he thought it was going to be, he will be stuck with it until the public enquiry. After that he will be vulnerable to a leadership challenge.

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Poppy
Poppy
5 years ago
Reply to  Mike C

Someone made an interesting comment on here yesterday that after Brexit, he will be in a much weaker position because he will be disposable. He was elected in December 2019 on one single mandate – to get Brexit done.

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Cheezilla
Cheezilla
5 years ago
Reply to  Poppy

And to level the North….
That’s what the bulldozer stunt was about.

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DanClarke
DanClarke
5 years ago
Reply to  Mike C

Wonder who would want the job, they all sound as bad as each other

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Ann
Ann
5 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

I want Awkward Git.

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GiftWrappedKittyCat
GiftWrappedKittyCat
5 years ago
Reply to  Ann

Seconded.

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richmond
richmond
5 years ago
Reply to  Mike C

So what if he does go? We had Cameron. He went. Did that help? No, we got May. Then she went. But then we got Johnson. So if he goes, then who’s next? Who cares?

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Julian
Julian
5 years ago
Reply to  richmond

Whoever it is won’t be much cop, but if it’s someone who has not been front and centre in the lies, they will have the room needed to gradually return us to normality.

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CGL
CGL
5 years ago
Reply to  Mike C

If he makes it to the point he can resign it will be like being jilted before you get your chance to get in there first. I want him to feel the wrath, not walk away and say he made the decision to go.

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Cecil B
Cecil B
5 years ago
Reply to  Mike C

I prefer dictator, pig dictator if you want, but definitely dictator

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Binra
Binra
5 years ago
Reply to  Mike C

Why assume that a political farce continues under technocratic controls vertically directed and locally enforced?
Once all the structures are in place there is no need to pretend in parliament as anything but rubber stamping financial-corporate edicts while fronting it out as crises actors.

The systemic and broad spectrum plan to destroy the systemic evils of a human ‘normal’ mind, identity or worldview, is itself the reiteration of the thing it hates and seeks to eradicate.
“To arrive at our starting place and know it for the first time…)

This self-destruction operates as if a war on the human ‘virus’ -as our cancelling and replacement.

There is of course another way that undoes evil, rather than engages within its frame.

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