What Has SAGE Got to Hide?

Fraser Nelson, the editor of the Spectator, has written a piece for the magazine explaining his decision to publish the leaked, classified projections from SAGE that appear to be driving Government policy and panic going into winter.
The secrecy is odd. In classic pandemic theory, governments are supposed to keep the public informed at every stage about what they know and don’t know. The risk is that a lack of transparency erodes confidence in ministers, and creates space for misinformation. The other risk is that if government is relying on modelling, much depends on the accuracy of the modelling. If it’s not scrutinised, mistakes are more likely to go uncorrected. More fundamentally, if people are being deprived of their liberty, they deserve to know why.
That’s why the Spectator is publishing a document which the government has not until now acknowledged the existence of: the ‘reasonable worst-case scenario’ for this coming winter. The document is on our website and makes for grim reading: 85,000 dead from a new Covid wave, about a third more than have died so far. It envisages 356,000 heading for hospital. Deaths are expected to peak at a lower rate than the first wave — but what is very different, this time, is the duration. The second wave is expected to get steadily worse until March.
The problem is that no one is challenging this thinking. The secrecy prevents scientists and other observers from checking the working. But even within Government there does not appear to be a culture of subjecting SAGE reports to robust scrutiny.
But some in the Department of Health are scarred by Sage advice from the first wave and think that any modelling that looks more than two weeks into the future has vast error margins. Health officials were told on March 1st that 90,000 ventilator beds could be needed for Covid patients — use peaked at 3,300 beds. Later advice — dated March 17th — suggested 138,000 beds, 40 times the peak figure. At one stage, the NHS was told to prepare for two million Covid patients needing hospital care — ten times more than the eventual figure.
The big question is whether these assumptions are, as Sage says, ‘reasonable’. And if not, who is likely to say so? The Sage scenario assumes 66% of people with Covid showing symptoms: the last UK sample put this figure at 33%. It assumes an ‘infection fatality ratio’ of 0.7%: a World Health Organisation paper recently put the average estimate at 0.3%. There is no ‘red team’ of experts in No. 10 challenging the assumptions; and there can be no debate about them in public when they are being kept secret.
Worth reading in full.
Britain’s Top GP: “Protect the NHS” Was Unhelpful

As Lockdown Sceptics and others have been pointing out since April, the infamous Government lockdown slogan that they’re still using today deterred people from seeking urgent and necessary medical attention. The Telegraph has more.
Professor Martin Marshall, the chairman of the Royal College of General Practitioners, said family doctors are dealing with a 30% rise in referrals, such as for scans, after the Government’s messaging kept patients away from surgeries during the first wave of the pandemic.
Prof Martial said colleagues were increasingly likely to encounter patients with cancerous growths and warned of the risks of virtual consultations after face-to-face appointments fell from approximately 75% to just 10% at the start of the pandemic.
In July, Matt Hancock, the Health Secretary, said that in the future all consultations should be virtual unless there was a “compelling reason” for them not to be.
But Prof Martial said on Thursday that in many cases speaking to patients over the phone or by video hindered diagnosis and accused Mr Hancock of “overplaying his hand” when it came to the benefits of technology.
Face-to-face appointments have increased since the end of the first wave, recovering to 56% of all consultations in September, according to NHS figures released on Thursday. The data also showed that surgeries saw 1.5 million more same-day appointments in the month compared to September last year.
However, previous figures have indicated that the number of urgent two-week referrals – the crucial NHS pathway that should get patients suspected of having cancer to a specialist within a fortnight – was down by at least 70% during the height of the pandemic.
Worth reading in full.
Police Have No Power to Ruin Christmas

Retired police officer and Lockdown Sceptics reader Graham Low has written in to say that even in Covid Britain police have no lawful power to enter your home to spoil your Christmas.
Following West Midlands PCC David Jamieson’s ridiculous statement about family gatherings at Christmas, I’ve researched what power they actually have to enter private homes to enforce the “rule of six” or whatever ludicrous regulation will be in force on Christmas Day depending on your postcode and, guess what, as far as I can work out the answer is none.
The best I could find was on the College Of Policing website:
Entry into property
– Police need a warrant before they can enter and search premises.
– However, the Coronavirus Act 2020 has provisions within it to cover the power of entry in certain exceptional circumstances.
– Schedule 21 of the Coronavirus Act allows an officer to enter a property where they have reasonable grounds to suspect that a person within is potentially infectious, and they need to direct or remove the person for screening and assessment.
– Officers must be sure it is both necessary and proportionate to enter a property on these grounds. They must confer with a public health officer unless it is not practicable to do so due to exceptional circumstances.There are certainly no Police and Criminal Evidence (PACE) powers which could conceivably apply. Police can’t possibly obtain warrants for every address they are called to by a Coronastasi snitch and, unless your guests are having major coughing fits, they can’t possibly have reasonable grounds under Schedule 21 either. So my advice is politely to stand your ground, provide your personal details such as name, address and date of birth and refuse to let them in.
If Covid is Doubling Every Nine Days Why Are “Cases” Almost Flat?

Scientists at Imperial College London have said that according to their survey the coronavirus epidemic is currently rising fast in the UK. The Medical Xpress has the details.
According to results from a large, ongoing study into the COVID-19 epidemic in England, scientists estimated that there are about 96,000 new cases every day and that the outbreak is doubling in size every nine days.
“The rate of growth we’re seeing is really quite rapid,” said Steven Riley, a professor of infectious disease dynamics at Imperial College London, one of the leaders of the study funded by the Department of Health.
Yet the reality on the ground is that daily positive tests by specimen date have not risen since October 19th, 11 days ago. Where is the “doubling”? The rolling average hasn’t doubled since the start of the month.

Meanwhile, the Sun reports that the coronavirus is now spreading fastest in the south of England. Which mainly goes to show how much it has already slowed down in the north. In Manchester, Liverpool, Newcastle and other major cities it has dipped and plateaued, having slowed down before any of the new restrictions came in. Here’s the graph for Manchester:

And for Liverpool, another big city in the supposedly out-of-control North West:

This is clearly not a runaway epidemic that demands an extreme response. It is in fact a pretty normal October.
Stop Press: The Mail asks what’s going on when Imperial can say there are 100,000 daily cases doubling every nine days and Cambridge can say it’s 55,000 doubling every 17 days. Which one is “The Science”? It’ll make Hancock’s head explode.
50,000 Excess Winter Deaths – Remember 2018? Thought Not

A reader has sent in a link to a newspaper report from 2018 when the NHS had a crisis that nobody remembers and there were almost as many excess deaths as in the past year (which is 55,092 as of October 16th, according to the ONS).
The flu vaccine’s failure to protect against some of the key strains of the infection contributed to more than 50,000 “extra” deaths in England and Wales last winter, according to data from the Office of National Statistics.
It was the worst winter on record for more than 40 years, with the 1975-76 season being the last time deaths climbed so high above the expected levels.
The NHS was rocked by a record winter crisis in early 2018, with a massive rise in flu cases and sub-zero temperatures triggered by the Beast from the East storm, which added further to death rates.
Despite protecting against the potentially serious “Aussie flu”, officials said in January that the vaccine which had been widely used was not effective against some of the more prevalent strains of the virus affecting the UK.
The impact on death rates was apparent as early as March, when experts warned the government must “urgently investigate” a spike of 10,000 deaths in the first weeks of 2018.
But the ONS data, spanning December to March, shows that this trend continued to rise.
It’s almost as though an epidemic of respiratory illness that kills tens of thousands of vulnerable people is a regular (if tragic) event. Note this occurred despite the existence of a vaccine. But since the public health officials running the show surely know all this, how are they getting away with their irresponsible alarmism?
Stop Press: Professor Carl Heneghan has retweeted an excellent graph from VoidSurf1 putting excess deaths in the US in 2020 into historical context.
Convergent Opportunism

After Toby’s conversion yesterday to the idea that lockdowns might be the result of an unconscious conspiracy, right on cue Time magazine runs a special on the “Great Reset”, apparently unaware that this phrase is much beloved by conspiracy theorists. This is the Davos World Economic Forum’s latest repackaging of its utopian statist ideas. The magazine explains:
The COVID-19 pandemic has provided a unique opportunity to think about the kind of future we want. TIME partnered with the World Economic Forum to ask leading thinkers to share ideas for how to transform the way we live and work.
The treasury of articles includes:
- “A Better Economy Is Possible. But We Need to Reimagine Capitalism to Do It”
- “Europe Has Big Plans for a Green New Deal. Poland’s Coal Country Isn’t So Sure”
- “If Corporations Really Want to Address Racial Inequality, Here Are nine Things That Actually Make a Difference”
- “Redesign Capitalism to Incorporate Social Value”
- “‘It’s the Right Thing to Do.’ Walmart CEO Doug McMillon Says It’s Time to Reinvent Capitalism Post-Coronavirus”
- “The Climate is Breaking Down. Architect Bjarke Ingels Has a Masterplan for That”
- A quadruple helping of Harry and Meghan headed :“‘This Is a Global Crisis.’ Prince Harry and Meghan, the Duke and Duchess of Sussex, Discuss the State of the Digital World” and including “Prince Harry and Meghan, the Duke and Duchess of Sussex, Discuss Misinformation With Silicon Valley’s Biggest Critics”
- And the inevitable slippery grinner himself: “Tony Blair: I’ve Always Been an Optimist. But for the First Time Ever I’m Troubled About the Future”
As one Lockdown Sceptics reader commented: “It’s not a conspiracy theory when they’re telling you what they’re doing.”
Seems to me there’s an awful lot of people out there with a little finger on some lever of power who have no intention of letting this crisis go to waste. They’re doing pretty well out of all this chaos, thank you very much. There is, as Dr Mike Yeadon puts it, a lot of convergent opportunism in evidence.
Stop Press: James Delingpole gives the Great Reset conspiracy theory a thorough airing on Sky News Australia here.
Jeremy Hunt: Little Evidence Having Covid Gives You Immunity

A reader has forwarded to us the scientifically dubious reply she received from Jeremy Hunt MP, who chairs the Health and Social Care Select Committee, after she drew his attention to Mike Yeadon’s podcast with James Delingpole.
Thank you for your reply. I am aware of Dr Yeaden’s [sic] views and I’m afraid it is not a case of them being suppressed but that the scientific consensus doesn’t agree with him. In actual fact we don’t know that having had COVID-19 gives you immunity, there is little evidence at the moment that it does. And so pursuing a herd immunity strategy, when we don’t know you get immunity, seems very dangerous to me. We would end up with many lives lost for no gain.
You are right to highlight the issue with false positives although some of the numbers on this have been manipulated to appear far worse than they are. This issue can be overcome with a confirmatory test for those who are positive and the technology behind testing is getting better and better. Increasing testing to the whole community wouldn’t lead to more restrictions it would reduce the need for them. That is the whole point of a mass testing programme. Only those who have tested positive and had a confirmatory second test would need to isolate. The rest of us would be free to go about our lives in as normal a way as possible.
Having been Health Secretary and now Chair of the Health and Social Care Select Committee I have spent a great deal of time looking into these issues and therefore do know what is going on. In a democracy we are entitled to disagree with each other but we ought to do so on the basis of fact. The fact is we may never get a vaccine, and we may never develop herd immunity. I think we therefore need to prepare to deal with this virus, that has already killed more than 40,000 of our fellow citizens, through a programme of mass, community testing. I am though very happy to debate that point as we all still have much to learn about the virus itself.
Best wishes,
Jeremy
Little evidence having had Covid gives you immunity? Except for the almost complete absence of reinfection. Professor Sunetra Gutpta explains how immunity to coronaviruses works here. But Prof J Hunt FRCPath obviously knows better.
Hunt’s reply was forwarded to Dr Mike Yeaden Yeadon who discusses it in an interview with ex-BBC journalist Anna Brees here. Well worth a listen.
France’s Impending National Lockdown Causes Mass Exodus

There’s a lesson here for Boris. President Macron’s imposition of a national lockdown in France, beginning today, caused tens of thousands of Parisians to flee the city, preferring to spend their period under house arrest in the country. People crowded into railway stations and traffic out of the capital was backed up for hundreds of miles in scenes reminiscent of a disaster movie. The Mail has more.
Tens of thousands of Parisians last night caused massive traffic jams in a desperate attempt to flee the French capital ahead of the start of Emmanuel Macron’s new national shutdown.
Video posted to Twitter shows huge numbers of Parisians attempting a mass exodus out of the city in a bid to avoid the 9pm curfew and the start of the second lockdown from midnight.
The night air was filled with the sound of blaring car horns while social media users estimated that Parisians had created ‘hundreds of miles’ of gridlock to escape to their second homes in the country.
Revellers also seized the opportunity to spend one last night with friends and family last night before bars and restaurants are closed as the French government plunges the country back into lockdown.
Meanwhile French people emptied supermarkets in a repeat of the panic-buying that swept Europe in March as Parisians and other city dwellers prepared for a month in confinement.
Shoppers stocked up on pasta and toilet roll while people queued outside hairdressers for a final trim. Office workers in the capital’s business district hauled their equipment to cars and trains in preparation for WFH.
Emmanuel Macron’s draconian measures are due to be enforced until at least December 1, with people required to carry documents justifying their reason for leaving home that will be subject to police checks.
Worth reading in full.
Far From the Covid Crowd

A Lockdown Sceptics reader who owns a luxurious guest house in the Welsh hills is offering special deals to fellow sceptics. Here is her promotional blurb.
Fancy a few nights in a lockdown sceptics B&B? For those tired of fellow hotel guests leaping against corridor walls on passing, an early supporter and contributor to the site has created a sanctuary for those seeking a little fun and R n’ R among like-minded folk. The Far From the Covid Crowd B&B has been morphed from a holiday home to a luxurious bed and breakfast-come-boutique hotel as the Government continues to persecute owners of properties sleeping more than six. Guests can enjoy a house-party feel at the stylish Jacobean farmhouse in the rolling hills of the Welsh border with others who question the mindless and nonsensical ongoing narrative. Weekend breaks can be two and three nights from the Friday and cost around £250 per person, inclusive of a four-course dinner and cocktails on the Saturday evening. There’s great music on a Sonos system, a pool and snooker table, roaring fires, a jacuzzi suite, good eateries/boozers nearby (it’s one mile from English border!) and delightful walks. Visit the website here or find me on Twitter at Far From the Covid Crowd B&B. Bedwetters not welcome and some weekends will be aimed at singles (more info in the Love in a Covid Climate forum). Launch weekend is 13th November.
Round-Up
- “Hysteria and rushed laws ‘more harmful than Covid’, say campaigners” – The launch of new group sceptic group Recovery, reported yesterday in Lockdown Sceptics, gets some decent coverage in the Guardian and also in the Mail. Recovery’s website is here, you can follow Recovery on Twitter here and donate to the GoFundMe page here.
- “Britain’s Covid response is utterly mad – here are 10 reasons why” – Great piece by early sceptic Dr John Lee in the Telegraph
- “Battle for Labour’s soul as Jeremy Corbyn is suspended” – Toby’s ‘Tories For Corbyn’ campaign, designed to wreck the Labour Party by propelling Corbyn to victor in 2015, is the gift that keeps on giving
- “Why are we continuing to ignore the Swede smell of Covid success?” – Good piece from Dan Wootton in the Sun highlighting Sweden’s success and tapping into the new sceptical mood
- “It’s time for an alternative to lockdown” – Stanford Professor of Medicine and GBD co-author Jay Bhattacharya sets out the other road in the Spectator
- “‘I’ve not held the love of my life since March’: Why isn’t Robert allowed to see his wife?” – Allison Pearson in the Telegraph writes an open letter to Helen Whately, the Social Care Minister, to highlight the personal tragedies of Government lockdown policy
- “Anti-lockdown protests continue across Europe as governments impose further lockdowns and business closures to fight the surge of coronavirus infections” – Photos and report from the Mail
- “Lockdown: Worth It?” – Maddy Ross in the Oxford Student delivers a healthy dose of scepticism
- “Second Covid lockdown is NOT the answer – independent expert blasts SAGE” – The Sun goes to CEBM’s Professor Carl Heneghan to counter the panic coming from the Government scientists
- “Covid vaccine ‘likely to be imperfect’ and may not prevent infection, head of UK task force warns” – Kate Bingham engages in some pitch-rolling, lowering expectations as far as she can, in the Telegraph
- “The longer the UK delays lockdown, the longer it will last” – Devi Sridhar is back backing lockdowns in this interview in the New Statesman after a brief spell favouring some incomprehensible alternative
- “West Yorkshire set for tough Tier 3 rules as swathes of England move to Tier 2” – Unfortunately, it seems the Government is listening to such crazy talk, from Sky
- “You don’t have to be a Covid denier to think a second lockdown is a terrible mistake” – Andrew Lilico on fine sceptical form in the Telegraph
- “The correlation between weekly excess deaths and Covid deaths by region, then and now” – Two new graphs from Christopher Bowyer in Hector Drummond Magazine analysing regional differences in England which indicate the current rise in excess deaths is not being driven by Covid
- “The Real Normal Podcast: Vaccines” – Latest episode of the sceptics’ podcast has arrived
- “Maybe we got our measurements wrong” – New video from Dr Clare Craig explaining the key insights from her recent Lockdown Sceptics paper on how we are over-counting Covid deaths
- “A second lockdown would pitch the economy into full-blown depression” – Jeremy Warner on strong form in the Telegraph
- Letter to Lord Grabiner – The Free Speech Union has written to the Master of Clare College, Cambridge, urging him to make it clear that Kevin Price, the college porter being mobbed by woke students for refusing to affirm that “transwomen are women”, will not face disciplinary action
Love in the Time of Covid

We have created some Lockdown Sceptics Forums, including a dating forum called “Love in a Covid Climate” that has attracted a bit of attention. We have a team of moderators in place to remove spam and deal with the trolls, but sometimes it takes a little while so please bear with us. You have to register to use the Forums, but that should just be a one-time thing. Any problems, email the Lockdown Sceptics webmaster Ian Rons here.
Sharing stories: Some of you have asked how to link to particular stories on Lockdown Sceptics. The answer used to be to first click on “Latest News”, then click on the links that came up beside the headline of each story. But we’ve changed that so the link now comes up beside the headline whether you’ve clicked on “Latest News” or you’re just on the Lockdown Sceptics home page. Please do share the stories with your friends and on social media.
Woke Gobbledegook

We’ve decided to create a permanent slot down here for woke gobbledegook. Today, it’s Scottish Justice Secretary Humza Yousaf declaring that yes, he really does want to criminalise private conversations in the home. Breitbart has the details.
Despite reports last month that the proposed law would be ‘watered down’, so that authorities would still require evidence of intent to offend in order to secure a conviction, Mr Yousaf, of the leftist separatist Scottish National Party (SNP) wants the law to have the power to invade people’s private homes, according to the Times.
Yousaf said there would not be a “dwelling defence” — such as in the 1986 Public Order Act which outlaws abusive, threatening, or insulting words if uttered in your own home — so that discussions at a dinner table could land a Scotsman in court for hate speech.
“Are we comfortable giving a defence to somebody whose behaviour is threatening or abusive, which is intentionally stirring up hatred against, for example, Muslims? Are we saying that that is justified because that is in the home?… If your intention was to stir up hatred against Jews… then I think that deserves criminal sanction,” Mr Yousaf told Members of the Scottish Parliament.
In reaction to Wednesday’s Times report, Mr Yousaf doubled down on his position, saying: “If you invite ten mates round and it can be proven beyond reasonable doubt that you intentionally stirred up hatred against Jews, why should this not be prosecuted? It would if you did so down the pub but not in your house?”
Head of the Free Speech Union Toby Young warned that this type of censorship might occur south of the border, saying on Wednesday in response to the report: “The Law Commission of England and Wales is proposing to change the law so exactly the same thing applies here.”
Concerns have been raised over the effect the Scottish law will have on freedom of speech, including on comedy, with Yousaf saying he wants the rules to be applicable the theatre directors and journalists, too.
The Free Speech Union has already submitted evidence to the Scottish Justice Committee and is planning on launching a campaign to prevent the proposed new Scottish hate crime laws – which look inevitable at this point – being extended to England and Wales.
Stop Press: If you want to signal your opposition to all this nonsense – as well as lockdown nonsense – you could do worse than buy a “Stay Sane” badge. You can get a pack of three for £3 at Itsy.
“Mask Exempt” Lanyards

We’ve created a one-stop shop down here for people who want to buy (or make) a “Mask Exempt” lanyard/card. You can print out and laminate a fairly standard one for free here and it has the advantage of not explicitly claiming you have a disability. But if you have no qualms about that (or you are disabled), you can buy a lanyard from Amazon saying you do have a disability/medical exemption here (takes a while to arrive). The Government has instructions on how to download an official “Mask Exempt” notice to put on your phone here. You can get a “Hidden Disability” tag from ebay here and an “exempt” card with lanyard for just £1.99 from Etsy here. And, finally, if you feel obliged to wear a mask but want to signal your disapproval of having to do so, you can get a “sexy world” mask with the Swedish flag on it here.
Don’t forget to sign the petition on the UK Government’s petitions website calling for an end to mandatory face masks in shops here.
A reader has started a website that contains some useful guidance about how you can claim legal exemption.
And here’s an excellent piece about the ineffectiveness of masks by a Roger W. Koops, who has a doctorate in organic chemistry.
Stop Press: The Swiss Doctor has translated the article in a Danish newspaper about the suppressed Danish mask study. Largest RCT on the effectiveness of masks ever carried out. Rejected by three top scientific journals so far.
The Great Barrington Declaration

The Great Barrington Declaration, a petition started by Professor Martin Kulldorff, Professor Sunetra Gupta and Professor Jay Bhattacharya calling for a strategy of “Focused Protection” (protect the elderly and the vulnerable and let everyone else get on with life), was launched last week and the lockdown zealots have been doing their best to discredit it. If you Googled it last week, the top hits were three smear pieces from the Guardian, including: “Herd immunity letter signed by fake experts including ‘Dr Johnny Bananas’.” (Freddie Sayers at UnHerd warned us about this hit job the day before it appeared.) On the bright side, Google UK has stopped shadow banning it, so the actual Declaration now tops the search results – and this Spectator piece about the attempt to suppress it is among the top hits – although discussion of it has been censored by Reddit. The reason the zealots hate it, of course, is that it gives the lie to their claim that “the science” only supports their strategy. These three scientists are every bit as eminent – more eminent – than the pro-lockdown fanatics so expect no let up in the attacks. (Wikipedia has also done a smear job.)
You can find it here. Please sign it. Now well over 600,000 signatures.
Update: The authors of the GDB have expanded the FAQs to deal with some of the arguments and smears that have been made against their proposal. Worth reading in full.
Judicial Reviews Against the Government

There are now so many JRs being brought against the Government and its ministers, we thought we’d include them all in one place down here.
First, there’s the Simon Dolan case. You can see all the latest updates and contribute to that cause here.
Then there’s the Robin Tilbrook case. You can read about that and contribute here.
Then there’s John’s Campaign which is focused specifically on care homes. Find out more about that here.
There’s the GoodLawProject’s Judicial Review of the Government’s award of lucrative PPE contracts to various private companies. You can find out more about that here and contribute to the crowdfunder here.
The Night Time Industries Association has instructed lawyers to JR any further restrictions on restaurants, pubs and bars.
Christian Concern is JR-ing the Welsh Government over its insistence on closing churches during the “circuit breaker”. See its letter-before-action here and an article about it here.
And last but not least there’s the Free Speech Union‘s challenge to Ofcom over its ‘coronavirus guidance’. You can read about that and make a donation here.
Samaritans

If you are struggling to cope, please call Samaritans for free on 116 123 (UK and ROI), email jo@samaritans.org or visit the Samaritans website to find details of your nearest branch. Samaritans is available round the clock, every single day of the year, providing a safe place for anyone struggling to cope, whoever they are, however they feel, whatever life has done to them.
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And Finally…

In Toby’s latest Spectator column he highlights the woeful lack of neutrality at the world’s largest encyclopaedia, Wikipedia. He should know. As he says, his own entry is a collection of smears that are kept in place by a ferocious phalanx of woke editors.
According to a recent article by two academics in the Critic, Wikipedia has a strong left-wing bias — which might explain why the page about me reads as if it’s been written by Owen Jones. In addition to referring to me as ‘far right’, it says I’m guilty of composing ‘misogynistic’ and ‘homophobic’ tweets, points out I’m in Jeffrey Epstein’s ‘little black book’, accuses me of being a drug dealer and says my unfavourable view of the government’s handling of the pandemic ‘contrasts with scientific recommendations for lockdown policy in the UK’. All of these claims are at least as contentious as the ‘eugenicist’ allegation, but I know from friends who have tried to set the record straight that they are immediately overruled by editors who then faithfully restore the smears.
Worth reading in full.









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What’s going on? Look here
Empty Test Centres All Over 🇬🇧 HDTV Video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLmOWWcjRTg
Why are these places empty? Here’s some video from all over the U.K…
It’s been on my mind a lot recently – how do we know that all these figures being presented to us – ”cases” – are even genuine? This is a perfect way to manipulate us, to terrify still further the Terminally Terrified. Forget ”false positives” – just the numbers of tests seem to be unimaginably high. I’ve never seen queues either.
As I’ve mentioned before, and Toby had a section on here where people are getting back positive results for tests they’ve not had, or where they’ve swabbed something other than themselves.
I was invited to get tested by Ipsos Mori and the ONS. If I agreed to be tested weekly for the first four weeks and then monthly for 11 months after that I would receive £50 for the first test and then £25 thereafter.
My question is if I were to test positive the first and 2nd week would that count as two ‘cases’ or one? and so on??
Another hting is that to those students and those who’s jobs ahve been destroyed the money is attaractive. However if everyone refused to get tested then we maybe could get back to work?
IIRC if these tests are done by the same laboratory then it should only count as one case as they SHOULD remove duplicates, more significantly, each test would be counted.
If the tests are done by different laboratories then there could be multiple cases.
Looking at this video you can’t help but wonder… not just some false positive cases but some made up cases too maybe?
It’s been censored. Surprise surprise!
Alex Belfield had it in one of his videos, available an hour ago, but now vanished…
don’t know if it’s the same one/s but same thing on instagram all over the north and south england weird
Aha!! Just went back to the video. It’s been removed for the usual ”violation” reason.
Now THERE’s a surprise.
This video has been removed for violating Youtubes terms of service. The ones they will not publish, and invoke to suit their needs. Have you seen their TV advert, it made me swear a lot.
Who’s that turd mark zuckerberg to censor anything,
It is not the time to hide behind our politeness. IT IS TIME FOR THE TELEGRAPH & SPECATATO TO FIGHT FOR OUR FREEDOM
Empty Test Centres All Over 🇬🇧 HDTV Video
https://www.bitchute.com/video/13rgEeLjPR8Z/
Why are these places empty? Here’s some video from all over the U.K…
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By the way this video was TAKEN DOWN by You Tube
Sir John Oldcastle wrote:
“This video has been removed for violating YouTube terms of service”
There’s a surprise. Nothing that opposes their actions is allowed.
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BY THE WAY
Last 4 days official Covid related deaths going down – 367 -310- 280 – 274
Still up and running on BitChute. Thank you for sharing this!
That one quickly fell victim to Google/YouTube’s “fact-checking”! For whatever reason, someone’s pretty sensitive to this sort of revelation. (A close friend of mine reported that he’s driven past the test centre in Redcar five times in the past week and saw no sign of activity.) To add insult to injury, the Times today reports that the army will be called in to man these deserted facilities!
that’ll be when they start to put us in the camps then
Now removed but lucky I saw it before it was. He intends to put up more and more. I hope he does and its seen by more and more until its inevitably removed. If there is nothing to hide then why the hasty removal of anything against the rona propoganda. I think the words crush the opposition comes to mind. The goverment are pressing ahead with the planned agenda regardless and do not seem in the least bit bothered of any criticism. Methinks all protests are planned for too. Where are all these police coming from in such numbers?yes you could only ever find them in McDonalds or costa but not on that scale 😉😉😁
Where are Carl Heneghan, Ivor Cummins and Mike Yeadon? Have they been got at? We need them now more than ever.
What makes you think they have been got at? AFAIK all three have been extraordinarily active.
From Anna Brees yesterday – Dr Mike Yeadon Former CSO & VP Allergy Respiratory Research Pfizer Global R&D 29th Oct 2020
He explains there are no excess deaths – the pandemic is over – the PCR test aren’t accurate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5y51GICqL9E
Brilliant interview! I’ve share it as much as possible. (I don’t ”do” social media!)
I wouldn’t be surprised if that were removed too, along with the Alex Belfield one.
Heneghan in the Sun as linked in the roundup.
All regularly posting on Twitter/YouTube. Michael Yeadon joining Recovery Group.
I think they all deserve a long holiday
Not yet.
Ivor is in touch with a group of a few hundred Irish doctors trying to state a case for his analysis to government
I do wonder what they are actually doing though?
Ivor Cummins was on Richie Allens show a couple of days ago.
Great interview with Dr Mike Yeadon yesterday with Anna Brees on Youtube. In summary: there have been NO excess deaths from all respiratory illnesses for 4 months now. Many tests are false positives, this would go away in 3 weeks if people stopped rushing for a test. This so called Pandemic was over by the end of Summer. What we have now is a FRAUD. 99.74% of people do not need a vaccine because this is a mild illness for them. https://www.youtube.com/embed/S9vj4UVwnvU
No one’s rushing for a test at many of the testing centres. According to (censored) video footage, they’re all empty.
I’ve been wondering if these figures are not simply made up.
To add to the mentions of current work by Heneghan and Yeadon,here’s Cummins’ latest, from yesterday;
Oct 29th Crucial Viral Update: European Focus BUT Principles Universal!
They’re all still hard at it.
Ivor Cummins just presented a very interesting video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tq3AaceihtI&t=727s
We all need to work all day long as well, doing all that we can in whatever way we can. Best to team up into little groups and networks of friends.
i agree strongly that we need to act in whatever ways we can
Still about and on this site in fact. Anna Brees and Michael re J. Hunt (sic). They have not been got at, censored yes. Anyway it’s not down to them, but all of us. Join Recovery, make those donations, write to MP’s, work at pulling us all together, make your voice heard best you can. Above all keep caring and patient. This is now a pseudo-epidemic and we need to keep asking why? At the heart of this is the PCR test, so do not get tested is a good place to start.
i haven’t come across a brees, micael etc nor the Recovery thing i just get addiction groups when i search for that ?
They should be advising the Government not Witty vallance or ferguson
Third.
Why cant anyone in the government or media realise that Track and Trace will never work no matter how much money you throw at it. The reason is that a decent percentage of the population either don’t want to isolate, cant afford to isolate or don’t want to cause their friends/family to isolate.
On the positive side for us, I see the reduction in contacts traced as an indication that more and more people think this virus is bullshit.
Alex Belfied YouTube just put up a 3 minute compilation of empty testing stations.
I watched a Twitter video yesterday of empty testing stations staffed by people who didn’t like being filmed and refused to answer any questions.
Nice work for the Security Guards.
Why? Because they are making so much money they dont want to stop the gravy train.
and i think it’s so very important to understand how much money/power/control this is giving to some people/agencies/etc it’s not just stupidity etc that is needing to be dealt with
Track and trace is the rolling out of a control system and has little to do with a virus.
The other issue with track and trace is that people use fake details and fake mobile numbers, no one seems to talk about this.
…and long may the fakery continue! I have now learnt my phone number off by heart with the last few digits swapped to make it meaningless. The “app” doesn’t seem possible to download on my old mobile, for some reason.
I heard a rumour that MPs are visiting a lot of hospitality venues all over the country. MW
sensible
The war against the human immune system We are currently witnessing a war against the human immune system. It is a war on three fronts. 1. Discredit. In the most recent estimate (by the WHO no less), about 10% of the world population has been infected with the new coronavirus. That is 780 million people. And at the current count 1.2 million people have died from it. That means that in 99.9% of cases the human immune system has dealt with this new coronavirus. And yet, governments and health “experts” around the world claim that the only thing that can save us from this virus is a vaccine. They don’t just claim it, they have reorganised the entire world on that basis. The human immune system is being discredited when it is actually doing all the work and saving practically all of us. 2. Suppression. Not happy with just discrediting our immune systems, governments around the world are taking measures that suppress it. The best thing for our immune systems is low levels of stress, lots of fresh air, sunlight for vitamin D, exercise and good nutrition. What are governments doing? Creating anxiety and panic, forcing people to cover their faces… Read more »
Wow – a brilliant post!
Our immune systems have evolved over billion years. They are honed to near perfection.
Sadly no one believes this anymore.
I do, it’s why I spent so much time in the sunshine when out and about as a key worker during lockdown.
Donald agreed with what my mum (SR Nurse) told me decades ago.
Actually many do believe that.
However, those paid off parties, working to further the Bill Gates vaccine agenda, will of course never be able to see it. This includes the corrupt UK government, Big Pharma, academia, SAGE and the mainstream media.
For a remarkably frank appraisal of flu vaccines see the BMJ link below. God knows how harmful, and likely intentionally so, the Covid-19 vaccines will be.
https://www.bmj.com/content/368/bmj.m626/rr
I always thought a Vaccine stopped you getting a Virus. I only found out since researching all this Covid nonesense that the so called flu vaccine, does not stop you getting flu.
and gives a 35% greater chance of getting coronaviruses
Great stuff. I would add the following – and there is hard science to back it up: we now dwell in a smog of electromagnetic radiation, from mobile phones, cell towers, wi-fi, bluetooth, wireless keyboards, etc., etc. and this adversely affects, principally, calcium metabolism at the cellular level, with consequent weakening of the immune system.
Moreover, white corpuscles are generated in bone marrow in a few localised areas, principally the pelvis, but also the skull. Both of these are typically exposed to intense local radiation from mobile phones, either from the phone being carried in the pocket or when it is applied to the ear.
This is where the 5G ‘conspiracy theorists’ do in fact have a point. Not only will 5G towers be everywhere in the urban environment, but there will be, literally, thousands of 5G satellites in orbit overhead. Even people like me, who eschew wif-fi and carry no phone, will not be able to escape this new and much more dangerous form of pulsed EMF. So yes, our immune system is under attack on that front too.
‘5G opponents‘, Simon. No need to do the bad guys’ job for them.
No you need to engage your critical faculties and avoid falling into the trap of the false dichotomy. Things are not either right-or-wrong. Not either good-or-bad.
There can be a mixture, and other things as well.
Look at the actual facts and don’t reject/accept the whole as a bloc!
Correctly describing people as ‘opponents’ falls into exactly which right/wrong trap, Rosie ?
You need to catch up on basic facts.
So people tell me. So instead of cryptic bollocks, what exactly do you mean Rowan ?
You must have sat at the back of the classroom and were unable to keep up, poor thing.
Fuck off. As you seem to be unable to explain yourself.
Gotcha.
I think you were saying that we should not call opponents of 5G conspiracy theorists and by doing so we are helping the “bad guys”. If so you have been misunderstood.
I know little about the possible harms of the radiated energy of 5G, but oppose the level of surveillance this tech would allow.
Some of us may have got JohnB all wrong and behind his brusque manner there may be a heart of pure gold.
If you were capable of expressing what exactly you’ve ‘got’, we’d all be a lot wiser.
Ta Rich, figured something had gone astray. I was indeed attempting to communicate what you said.
Goodness only knows what Rowan’s been imbibing.
many 1000’s of papers here on the harms of man made pulsed microwave radaition
http://www.bioinitiative.org
there are lots of studies here about the adverse effects of microwave radiation exposure.
http://www.bioinitiative.org
Great post
70 billion high energy neutrinos pass through every square cm of you every second, I think we should be worried too. Why stop at radio waves?
Life has been dealing with neutrinos, which are totally natural, since time immemorial. Virtually all neutrinos simply pass through ourselves and have no measurable effect. Besides there’s no practical way of shielding our bodies from neutrinos. Neutrinos are simply a straw man and serve only to deflect attention away from the godawful menace of manmade 5G.
The only long wavelength photonic radiation which bothers me is that which has been modulated to carry messages between government bodies. The ONLY way 5G can hurt you is if the cops use it to communicate about how to hunt you down.
P.S. I have hilarious anecdotes about bed-wetters who realised that neutrinos get created by some manmade acitivities too, and the PR representative on the phone who assured those bed-wetters than “I’ve been in touch with our engineers and yes we do make neutrinos as a byproduct, but I assure you that none we make ever get out”
lots of studies whoning harm and covered up by the lying media as always
http://www.bioinitiative.org
Brilliant writing. Excellent to see thy enemy and to have their method of attavk spelled out so clearly.
2. Supression. Fought by relaxing, switching off. Immersing in other things. Chaneling anger not holding onto it, allow bursts of anger or days but don’t live with it relentlessly. Birds know nothing of what 2020 is or what it means as do many other parts of our world.
Great post Stewart.
Exceptional reasoning! Thank you! I have said from day one of lockdown, “this cannot be about a virus as everything they are telling people to do weekend the immune system”… a month later I realised it WAS an intentional attack on the human immune system. Next came the hideous brainwashing that scientists were “close to finding a vaccine”. Why? FOLLOW THE MONEY!
How about the French government leaving schools open during the new confinement but insisting that primary school children from the age of six onwards must wear masks? I repeat, children aged six in masks all day. It was bad enough when it was from age eleven. The French government is destroying children’s mental and physical health. Children’s immune systems will never develop properly.
It actually challenges the definition of a human, when one grows up under such unhuman circumstances.
Why do French parents go along with it?
The French have a funny relationship with medicine and public services in general. I was dating a French girl whilst at university and she told me that if you go to the doctor, the doctor is pretty much obliged in the patient’s expectation to give you some medicine whether your ailment is real or not. She was also critical of me not trusting the state.
The same reason that the great bulk of the UK population submitted to senseless and humiliating government diktats. This is all going to end very badly.
Get the kids out of school. Home educate them. Save their brain cells and mental health.
and in Germany a few children ahve dropped dead from having to wear masks all day
I’ve just asked my brother in Angers whether this is really being followed.
This link is powerful re the damage masks do to childrens’ development.:
https://www.sott.net/article/442455-German-Neurologist-Warns-Against-Wearing-Facemasks-Oxygen-Deprivation-Causes-Permanent-Neurological-Damage
They did it with food. GM food is a route to patent natural systems.
The human body is just seen as the next logical step.
How’s that working out for HIV?
The answer is, we have no idea. No idea about the number of people who were infected with HIV and fought it off.
hiv was pre runner for covid.
read up on it.
hiv does not cause aids – is not infectious, has multiple mutating ‘definitions’.
but your belief is your fear reacted to as real and locked in by masking defences.
I don’t expect your belief, but invite your curiosity.
great yesssssssssssssss
One is not allowed to have a functional, self-protecting immune system, when one can buy an equivalent from a pharmaceutical company and line its shareholders’ pockets (including MPs’, doctors’ and scientists’).
Hello,
for some time I’ve been asking as anyone done any studies on the affects of lockdown on the human body. But your piece shows clearly the war governments are waging against our immunity. As I understand we have many layers of immunity T-cell is like a door man who throws out any intruders to your home before they have any chance of causing any damage. Your last line of defence is antibodies which if overwhelmed can lead to your deaths. This is why the elderly and people with impaired immunity are given flu jabs every winter to boost their antibodies. As you correctly point out if we don’t nurture our immunity we make ourselves vulnerable to every bug going and the fear government is creating is simply shredding out immunity.Lastly I would like to say great piece.
Spot on!
You can even win an award out of this shit.
Reported by the scummy Edinburgh Rag paper.
https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/coronavirus-scotland-professor-jason-leitch-19190906
Srridhar was gifted an awared yesterday. Services to science I kid you not. Makes tge reckoning easier. Those who have done the bidding get awards. Question what service has sridhar achieved? Apart from being one of The Untrusables.
Being a Priestess of The Science.
Unbelievable. The woman doesn’t even have an undergrad in science, it’s all basically public policy and public health sociology. Not knocking sociology, but it definitely doesn’t make her a scientist.
Can he get back to doing fillings now
“If Covid is Doubling Every Nine Days Why Are “Cases” Almost Flat?”
Questions like this make me despair.
The author is assuming that the laws of arithmetic pre-covid still apply.
When they said that everything would change, they meant everything..
….even the laws of arithmetic.
Because they’re making them up. It’s best to ignore them and Carry On Living Your Life.
Was Babs Windsor in that one?
Charles Hawtry played cummings
https://youtu.be/gVrm6Qc6neM
The laugh of sombody who has just sealed the deal to steal all of the lead off the church roof.
Someone techy should superimpose that over Wancock’s speeches!
The Hitler film downfall has good parodies maybe there should a parody where Hitler realises Johnson and Hancock are more incompetent then he was
You would be right, but they are just not going to let us get on with life. In fact, they think that most of us have already long enough already and they intend to do something about that.
Positive tests aren’t playing ball, therefore they’ve moved onto the magic case-making machines i.e. models.
You’ve got to admire the creative thinking, that’s being put into maintaining the gargantuan Covid scam. The psychopaths behind it are clearly intent on carrying out their dirty business to the bitter end and without a very large measure of determined resistance we are finished.
2 + 2 = 5
You been talking to that O’Brien bloke again? 😉
Hospital admissions are doubling. Based on the ONS data one can estimate that between 1-3% of infections seek hospital for symptoms. Of those admitted, about 1/6 die a week later. Deaths are also doubling at the same rate as admissions from a lower baseline. Forget the headline cases data, it is far too confounded to be of use in decision making.
Arithmetic still works, but sadly it’s currently geometric not arithmetic progressions.
The fact that deaths have been below the five year average for four straight months seems to have escaped the attention of 77th Brigade Maybe you’ll catch up eventually.
Week 42 mortality was higher than any previous week in the past 11 years, Expect the same on Tuesday for Week 43.
But you haven’t adjusted for the extra 6 million people in the country over those 11 years, have you?
Why not?
Hospital mortality was below the five year average for week 42. You don’t mention that.
Why not?
Only 6.4% of deaths in week 42 ‘involved’ covid 19. You don’t mention that.
Why not?
My apologies. Mark Twain refers.
77th Brigade don’t do reality, pushing Government fairy tales is their only role. Poor buggers.
Cherry picking is a 77th Brigade speciality. However excess mortality this year, such as it is, has been caused by the lockdowns and of course the disgraceful refusal by hospitals to do the job that they get paid for.
but no one is dying from pneumonia nor flu!
I follow the laws of real arithmetic, not arithmetic modified to suit the preferences of lockdownists (or of Australian pryministers, an older story, search it). The time for obedience is over, the only way now is for everyone to live normally, and show this government that we care as little about their diktats as we do about the silly cough.
From STAT News:
“It may be time to reset expectations on when we’ll get a Covid-19 vaccine
Pauses in clinical trials to investigate potential safety issues, a slower-than-expected rate of infections among participants in at least one of the trials, and signals that an expert panel advising the Food and Drug Administration may not be comfortable recommending use of vaccines on very limited safety and efficacy data appear to be adding up to a slippage in the estimates of when vaccine will be ready to be deployed.”
https://www.statnews.com/2020/10/29/it-may-be-time-to-reset-expectations-on-when-well-get-a-covid-19-vaccine/
An effective vaccination would bring this to an end.
Not happening!
I’ve been saying this for a while. ‘They’ don’t want a vaccine because it would enable the world to go back to normal. I’m beginning to think more and more that ‘the vaccine’ was just a carrot to get people to accept the ‘new normal’ as a temporary measure.
Looking at the previous vaccines (there isn’t one) for SARS there is no reason to think the pharma labs can just magic one or several up.
Thinking about the behaviour of governments to pre buy the vaccines with obscene amounts of money is a good way to cement in a national belief in a vaccine. They started producing befire trials began too.
You may be onto sometbing Cranmer.
The vaccine is coming and the world is never going back to normal unless we push back.
The vaccine is key to the new system of surveillance they are building.Vaccine tied to digital /health passport.Sounds like regular boosters as well.No vaccine no passport no normal life.That is the future and they are quite open about it.
The race is on between the waking up of enough people and the vaccine being available.
A vaccine that reduces morbidity and hospital admissions would be of huge benefit. It may not provide sterile immunity from infection, but presence of some antibodies may serve as an antiviral that lower the rate of progression to COVID19 disease and, subsequently reduce mortality. We shall see.
Morbidity is a fraction of a percent – and you have to be at death’s door to die of it!
Indeed, but a fraction of a percent of a very large number is still a very large number. An IFR of only 0.2% is 14M additional global deaths.
Even the 0.2% is based on very dodgy statistics.
isn’t the death rate 0.06% ?
Maybe it would be useful even if it couldn’t stop the spread, but that doesn’t mean we have to cower in wait for such a vaccine before restoring normality. Normality needs to be brought back now, if they can even get a vaccine working well enough to that, then we can see if it helps mitigate what is already an endemic disease.
Makes sense actually – perfect excuse to dole out millions to their mates in pharma with a sly wink that all they need to do is look busy for months and then hand-wringing come next spring when it turns out that the alchemists have sadly failed to create the fabled silver bullet.
I think the vaccine is just another trojan horse for the surveillance agenda.
Britain is in crucial need of a written constitution that guarentees sovereignty our rights and limits government power and decentralization
And in need of a public willing to enforce this constitution for themselves.
It will also be a weapon of mass depopulation.
they are making an mRNA vaccine to change your genes. With it will come the health passport, eventually to morph into the chip.
That “Reset” word again…
And how can you scream “second wave” and say not enough infections for even rushed vax testing?
I found this passage in the article linked under “may not be comfortable”:
It’s worth bearing in mind that RCTs show no benefit of mask-wearing, and that we’re being forced to cover our faces based on “crummy observational data”.
The trials to date have shown that the Covid-19 vaccines are indeed very dangerous. If they tried to inflict them on the public right now, then people would be dropping like flies and the mass vaccination programs would rapidly come to grinding halt. Clearly they need to reformulate these witches brew vaccines so that people will last out at least a few months before keeling over. This is the real purpose of the current trials and the reason for the delays. You really have to feel sorry for Bill Gates and Big Pharma, as global genocide by vaccination was never going to be as easy as some people might think.
was that after the volunteer died in the Brazilian trial?
The statistics for covid obviously make no sense, just as production statistics in the Soviet Union made no sense.
This is because neither of them has to make sense.
In both cases the point is that the people just get with the program.
Toby we need an Uprising. This drive to impose their will on us must be roundly rebuffed.
The answer to the headline is ‘Their Guilt’
Tier 3 restrictions in force in my area from today. Sons football club posted that only 1 parent allowed to spectate, track and trace on entering and also we have to wear face masks to enter premises, walk to the pitch side find a spot, take mask off and if we move elsewhere the face mask is to be put back on!
how bloody ridiculous – we’re stood outside FGS!
I despair, I really do. Each morning I wake up thinking I’m going to have a good day and not be to depressed about it all but then something else is thrown at me and I go deeper into depression.
Wake me up when it’s all over 😥😥
It makes no sense because they’re making it up.
no sense whatsoever.
This is a strong sign. We know what usual life confusions feel like. We recognise with our gut when there is a contrivance. It not making sense it a sure sign something is contrived.
Same, they never want this to end now.
Keep strong say no, hopefully more parents will follow
we will use our exemption, definitely. I’m not to confident other parents will follow.
I hope you will be pleasantly surprised maybe not this week but in time
Let’s hope so.
Don’t think about the outcome. Just set the example as often as you can. The rest is up to them.
Yep, needs ignoring, if only to prove you’re not morons. 🙂
I have developed a severe mask phobia (partly from being aggressively intimidated by a masked policeman on the train) but also because it is confusing trying to understand people whose lips you can’t see move. I grew up amongst Muslim women who covered their faces. It was no easier then to understand. You can’t fully comprehend someone who is speaking when you look at their eyes but see no lips move. I never wear masks obviously but I’ve gone one step further. I now look at the ground and say, “I don’t mean to be rude but I cannot look at your face in a mask when you are trying to speak to me, could you please remove it or find someone who can speak to me without a mask on.” Almost EVERYONE immediately (and often gratefully) removes their mask – as they are allowed to do by law.
Very good tactic – thanks CNC.
Thanks – I had a pre-existing phobia, possibly from suddenly and unexpectedly encountering a group of such people at a young age when I’d not even heard of it. The confusion and distress on the faces of the children, unable to distinguish which black image was their own mother stays with me yet, nearly 40 years ago.
…I was already petty vulnerable to such a phobia – one needs to be able to see the whole face to assess what a person will do next, if you are safe or not.
I’m far less polite than you – ‘I can’t tell a word you’re saying with that bloody face nappy on!’
Awesome tactic. Good for you for sticking to your guns too!
Excellent suggestion. Thanks a lot!!!
There is no law requiring you to download track and trace. Also no law re mask. I continue to refuse when asked to do these things and have encountered no problems.
https://www.laworfiction.com/2020/09/face-covering-some-pretend-law/
Exempt. That’s all you need to say. Son is exempt.
Carry in your pocket the guidance printed clearly saying exemptions apply and no need to explain why. A lanyard if you need. Avoid confrontation or let them think this is about having The Masks Debate. Just tell them politely that this is about the guidance they are supposedly following.
We are all looking for something practical to do, to push back. This is a prime opportunity to do that. Do it calmly and in full knowledge that they are legally out of step, and that you are standing up for your son. Feel proud and empowered
I warmly agree. Compulsory masking is bizarre and wrong, symbolically unbearable. When not at work (I bear in mind a contributor’s post yesterday, talking about his sense that he must comply in order to keep his job), we can ALL refuse to be masked.
Print Out & Post?
I try my best not to mock solo people in masks in cars. I know it’s tempting but they have been subjected to the most intense and appalling barrage of brainwashing. I think the way forward has to be rooted in compassion for all. That’s what I’m asking for.
Two schools of thought on that
a) Do not mock the afflicted, (unfortunately means they win and are never challenged)
b) Ridicule is one of the most potent weapons against dictators. Ridicule is better if it shames some of the Covidians into not wearing a muzzle as ” people will laugh at me “
Compassion for the servile will not change them. Compliance with psychopathic government edicts will quite literally be the death of us all
Sometiems I wonder if mockery could help break the brainwashing, though finding some way to get them to laugh with you rather than be laughed at would be much more effective and desirable.
I took a bus journey this morning and was cheered to see that a couple of people were unmasked throughout and a further third pulled their masks off when seated. A small step but a few weeks ago compliance was 100%. The driver wasn’t bothered, he got off at one point to speak to someone inside a shop, I watched through the window, he didn’t put a mask on throughout. The resistance is starting (and we are tier 3 from Monday).
Break their silly rules, and get other parents to unite with you in doing so. The busy-bodies will back down. The media (sh1tb4gs at the BBC excepted) is screaming in favour of scepticism this time.
same here. Can’t you talk to the other parents and refuse to wear the masks? What happend if you’re exempt?
Ffs Will, it’s their term, from countless nwo-type documents over the past few years.
This government must fall and sage needs disbanding now https://www.remove-the-tory-government.org
As a lifelong anti-troy I never thought I’d have to say this, but we also need to be disbanding Labour, The SNP, The Lib Dems… and pretty much every other political party with sitting MPs right now. All of them, with the exception of a very small number of decent MPs scattered across several parties, have been complicit in the recent crimes against humanity.
Nothing mentioned on furlough ending today. Or is it that the replacement scheme is good enough to keep those moving from furlough ticking over?
Modelling outcomes are not evidence, as every scientifically literate person knows. Yet, Patrick Valance, the government’s senior scientific advisor, said, “the modelling, that’s the data we are looking at”. This was broadcast live.
He’s a proven liar, not having sued Yeadon. Amazed he still has any standing whatsoever.
In my scientific education, modelling and data were different things. The latter was used to guide, improve and validate (or not) the former. Has the Chief Scientific Adviser forgotten his education?
Vallance has repeatedly said things that he must know are false. He is not the only one. Fauci, for example, claims that the only way to immunity is by vaccine, which seems to be set to be the new official “science”. Apparently, “the science” is whatever suits at any particular moment.
He’s clearly been paid to forget it.
The vast majority of analyses, including statistical tests, involve some form of model – even a T-test makes underlying assumption. The challenge is whether a model is appropriate for the purposes, be it estimation or prediction. Fitting a linear regression is modelling. fitting a linear regression to log(admissions) is modelling. Extrapolation based on a model always comes with caveats.
The MODEL is not the F***ing DATA! The Territory is not the F***ing Map! How the hell are those supposed experts to be educated, they clearly weren’t first time around.
they’re bought and paid for
he has shares in GSK and worked for them until 3 years ago. Thats all he remembers
I believe there are not national numbers avaiable for suicides. Yesterday Francis Hoar Retweeted
“London Ambulance Service
·
28 Oct
Sadly, the number of suicide and attempted suicide incidents we attend are increasing.
Our crews now attend an average of 37 suicides or attempted suicides per day, compared to 22 in 2019 and 17 five years ago”
There are 400 comments about the tweet
https://twitter.com/Ldn_Ambulance/status/1321566876732952581?s=20
I believe this is as important as the increase in child head trauma that Great Ormond Street said was up 1500% on their previous 5 year average during this Spring.
I have in recent days been speaking to some people I know regarding public transport. All with IQs well above average, all grown adults, professional people, with the ability and means to access information and process it, all to a greater or lesser degree politically engaged, all in pretty good health and not in any at risk category, with varying attitudes to risk within what I would consider a normal range. But they are all, some more, some less, worried about using public transport – but happy to go out to eat, visit people, go to shops, theatre etc. So what has happened to them? I think they have never thought much about their own mortality, or if they have it has not seemed very real to them. They probably expected to live to a ripe old age and for death to approach slowly, via cancer or something. Suddenly they have been reminded that everyone dies, and that some people can catch an infectious disease without warning a die quickly. It’s an unpleasant thought, and somehow the way they banish it is not with reason or courage but by saying to themselves “I am reducing my risk by avoiding public… Read more »
The Science is now basically the state religion.
State Juju.
Indeed. Trouble is that real science, which will not pretend every problem can be solved to everyone’s satisfaction, has been replaced by pseudoscience, which is doing a crap job at holding society together. I am not religious and am under no illusions that organised religion was always a force for good, but there was more cohesion arguably.
It’s certainly succeeded in generating mass belief. We are an odd minority now.
Yes except that society is quite divided and people are frightened
The worst of all possible worlds
The same believers are living a miserable existence though. Each knows that governments are never to be trusted, they knew a year ago that these politicians are the very scum of the earth. Yet their switch has been flipped and they are left with no option to believe in the leaders. They are unhappy souls indeed.
I’d argue that real science has been replaced by egregious propaganda.
Yeah pseudo-science.
I’ve never been religious.
Except it isn’t science.
True, but these things do not matter. Laziness, naivety, and government mind control tactics outweigh them.
Though I do think many people’s ability to ‘process information’ is overrated and does not transfer well from one area (e.g. specialism) to another (e.g. public arena malfeasance).
Indeed, but I think their normal mechanisms even when they generally work well are thrown off by fear of death. I worry about death a lot too, but by the grace of God managed to move on from that by looking at the facts and deciding to live my life.
I just unfriended someone on my blog who was furious German churches are being kept open and saying the worshippers deserve to be locked in and die of covid! I gave her a piece of my mind then deleted her,
Good for you. Non-life should be more greatly feared then death.
Whenever my wife says she is worried about something, I ask “Will that help ?”. Sometimes I even escape getting a slap.
Might I hazard a guess that most of these friends are comfortably WFH ?
Yes, I am sure that helps. WFH on full pay, business not affected by crisis (yet).
The lockdown supporters typicaly work for the state, not for businesses.
I avoid public transport nowadays not because of the virus, but because of the mask mandate. Always liked a big train or bus than a small car to travel. Not anymore 🙁
Yup, have bought a car for same reason.
I have been car free for over 7 years, but am considering buying one, also because of the mask crap.
I haven’t been on a bus since March. I’ve been on trains a few times a month, doing my “loose scarf thing” when I get on but generally finding a quiet seat where I can let it slip, and/or doing some eating and drinking for most of the journey.
I think you are asking specifically about public transport: why will these people go to restaurants, shops, private houses, but not use buses and trains? I think it’s something to do with bodily boundaries and psychical threat. Trains, particularly, are places where we behave almost as if at home – reading, eating, relaxing, often falling asleep, going to the loo, ‘making ourselves comfortable.’ They are almost like hotels, in terms of how we behave in them. But in a hotel we expect the room to show ostentatious signs of having been sanitized before it is offered to us – everything should be fresh and new and changed. The message is: Your body can relax here – all traces of the previous occupant have been expunged. In restaurants, we also expect a freshly cleaned table; and it’s a less intimate space, as it never involves sleeping. In private houses, we are relying on our friends’ good hygiene – plus we are likely to be less phobic about coming into real or symbolic contact with their bodies, because they aren’t strangers to us. So people who have been seriously persuaded of the omnipresent threat of contamination by a deadly pathogen are likely… Read more »
Yes, I think there is something in that – close proximity of endless waves of strangers, especially in and around London. It seems to me like it could be symbolic – a deal with fate – I will avoid trains and tubes and buses, but do other things, and I will be OK. Not much based on the actual threat level, just a psychological device to help them cope.
My aunt who is 71 smokes at least 10 cigs a day, has coah beginning and not the slightest bit afraid of lung cancer but paranoidly scared sh.tless of covid.. The reason she is very afraid is that she “won’t be able to breath” …I don’t know if she really even thinks for one second on how people with lung cancer pass away.. and covid death rate is much lower than lung cancer even in her age group.this kind of corrupt and lost logic is the result of mass msm hypnotisation. These people are lost forever and they are the majorty consisting of not only average people but also people with high education etc… I hate the MSM endlessly.
Ace.
Great stuff. One to sing around the dinner table all alone on xmas day! (that is for anyone who takes notice of our fascist dictator).
I work in a school a few miles from Oxford. I received an email from the head today which said,
“South Oxfordshire remains in Tier 1 for now but we are mindful that a number of colleagues live in Oxford and that as a school community we have regular interactions with the City. For these reasons we are going to recommend that staff and students wear face masks when moving around the school in communal, indoor areas where social distancing is challenging from Monday 2nd November and make it a requirement from Wednesday 4th November. Students and staff with certain medical conditions will be exceptions to this rule and we will support any students who do not have a face mask.”
I know the law for public transport and shops but what recourse do I have when it’s your employer telling you you must wear a mask?
Have they done a risk assessment?
Will they be liable for problems poven to be caused by mask-wearing?
Are they insured for any possible liabilities?
Teir one is still oppression. Don’t allow anyone to be missing that point. Don’t let any one this normalize. Masks are still not normal nor will they ever be – even for the gingham matched fashionistas it is all abnormal.
I will meet who I like it is no business of this rogue government of chaos or the clueless uniform goons the police
Tell the pillock you can’t wear a mask for health reasons. These reasons are personal & confidential and you expect that to be respected. You may think that line undermines the adoption of a principled position to some extent but that is only in your own mind; you can still share your views and give voice to your opposition to the policy! (If push were to come to shove your health problem is about mask-induced ‘low mood’ which, you fear, may well translate into full-blown depression).
Good luck! AG
Mask Dikats Meanwhile, legally unenforceable demands that people wear face masks at work are becoming increasingly common and should be dealt with in a simple administrative process, using the common law to establish the indisputable facts, which I am in process of drafting a detailed template for. However, in simple terms, if you are threatened with the sack for refusing to wear a mask, you need to send your employer a Notice of Conditional Acceptance, promising to wear a mask if they provide you with the following: 1. Evidence that masks prevent infection. 2. Evidence that masks don’t cause oxygen deprivation which can lead to seizures. 3. Evidence that breathing in your own carbon dioxide does not cause bacterial infections and respiratory disorders. 4. Evidence that wearing masks does not cause stress and anxiety. 5. Evidence that wearing masks prevented the spread of the Spanish Flu. 6. Evidence that dismissal for not wearing a mask at work would not represent a material breach of the Equality Act, which entitles you to claim compensation for discrimination, as well as unfair dismissal. 7. Evidence that the government lurgy has ever been proven to exist. 8. Evidence that the Coronavirus Act and the… Read more »
Good, please keep us updated, I was asking for a pro forma letter of unlimited liability to be signed by the employer a while back.
My take is that SAGE are relying on Imperial modelling worst case. When it proves wrong they will round on Ferguson.
I believe it was proved wrong in about July (when compared to the original Fergsuon paper we should have had about 6 lockdown and releases by now). I expect they tweaked the model to prove the restrictions from July 4 onwards had a greater effect. The current rise is too slow to assume that only 10% of people had it in the first wave
When this current ripple tops out and excess deaths look like a normal winter I expect them to throw Ferguson under a bus.
KCL Covid tracker has about 2.5 million people symptomatic in the peak of the first wave. Add in the 80% asymptomatics gives 10 million. Through the peak this would give about half the country exposed in the first wave. We are close to herd immunity and this second ripple is just mopping up some places that lockdown did affect (furthest from London).
Your retired police officer is wrong.
The Constabulary can enter any private home at any time for any reason whatsoever, disclosed or undisclosed, valid or invalid, fabricated or plausible, lawful or unlawful.
Resistance to this intrusion or invasion, passive or otherwise, is not to be advised. There is a continuum to state violence and you will lose.
“An Englishman’s home is his castle” is well-worn propaganda, more untrue today than it has ever been.
An Englishman’s home is his prison.
They can, if they are willing to use illegal force.
Resistance will depend on the circumstances, and does not necessarily mean one expects to ‘win’.
It’s yet another thing we have to work out for ourselves – modern phone video cameras help to keep them in line.
So what are warrants for?
Please can you have a look at the forum Hat Man – I’ve asked about Berkshire Sceptics – shout out for you specifically.
Wrong, only if they have warrant or if they reasonably believe an arrestable offence is taking place or that someone is on the premises who is subject to an arrest warrant.
Unless they are Gene Hunt
They don’t need a warrant in Gulag Wales.
I expect they do really Annie but are just being a bunch of hunts.
The crooks in this government have legalised spies committing any crime they like when in service of the state, state to the copper that you are such a spy and hence can do anything necessary to block his entry into the vital government infrastructure in which more than 6 people are holding a clandestine meeting of national importance.
What is the email address to send Toby info?
lockdownsceptics@gmail.com
Ta
https://www.independent.ie/news/grim-toll-of-covid-19-on-our-workforce-ireland-hit-hard-by-job-losses-and-lay-offs-39684833.html
TLDR 6% of the Irish workforce lost their job due to lockdown measures.
In addition, from the article:
“Ireland had the joint highest rate in the EU with Greece with 27pc of the Irish labour force experiencing either temporary lay-offs or reduced working time.”
Wow. Another mockdown sure makes a lot of sense …..
Good news. Simon Dolan is back on Twitter. This is the 2nd day of the court case. Looks as if the case even made the DM: Lawyers fo tycoon challenging lockdown blast ‘onerous’ restrictions
“involves a wholesale challenge to some of the most onerous restriction to personal liberty’ imposed since the time of Oliver Cromwell and the English Protectorate in the mid-1600s, ‘if not ever’
https://twitter.com/simondolan/status/1322111120765845504
Also in the times:
Simon Dolan: Coronavirus lockdown restrictions were unlawful, …..
“Mr Dolan is arguing in a judicial review that the UK’s lockdown rules were among “the most onerous restriction to personal liberty” in almost four centuries”
https://twitter.com/simondolan/status/1322110604614795265
He’s doing great work but I wouldn’t get any hopes up.
Let’s have lots of mass testing. Let’s have the false positives. Get that denominator up as high as we can. Because that pushes the fatality rate down.
On Monday, the Vuelta tested approximately seven hundred people. There was not a single positive result. I wonder how the race organisers solved the false positive problem. Any ideas?
Threw them away?
If only. They only work on the tests, they call it cases. The more cases the more lockdowns
But then they’ll panicmonger using the “case” numbers again.
If you lock people in their homes and ban them from touching a good range of other human beings (thus preventing them from exposure to enough bacteria and viral particles to keep their immune systems working properly) and force them to cover their faces all day, preventing their own bodies from releasing bacterial and viral particles as they breathe out, then you’re going to have a very, VERY unhealthy population succumbing to viruses (of the human corona variety and all others) and dropping like flies this winter. You can call it “covid”, “corona” or the good old-fashioned name of “cold”. Same difference. If you hijack normal biological needs and processes, you kill people. I think ministers are now fully aware of the facts and terrified of the repercussions when it is finally revealed that their actions directly cost the livelihoods and lives of so many. I think they will do ANYTHING to save their skins. That’s the motivation behind the madness, behind the criminally cruel nonsense destroying so many lives.
They deliberately want us unhealthy. Drive up the dodgy numbers to keep it all going.
Day 2 of our hearing at the Court of Appeal gets underway at 10.30am
I pray that we will see justice, however knowing this country is becoming more like a Banana Republic every day I doubt it. Nevertheless we must never give up nor give in!
… without the bananas
Bananas ALWAYS test positive.
Fast going bananas
Matt Hancock’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/MattHancock?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
It’s a hoot, complete with cute dogs, sniffing out the nasty virus, tales of doom from ICL, and heroic Hancock, saving us all. It is an epic for our times.
The sooner that idiot disappears from our lives the better. I cannot decide if he is the ‘useful idiot’ managed by the puppeteers to drive their Agenda forwards or if he’s a madnan drunk on power.
He is just a standard careerist politician. PPE, post-grad Economics, Bank of England, worked as an advisor for Osbourne, elected as an MP, quickly became a minister, subsequently promoted to the Cabinet. In all this, he has always followed the party line, changing only when the party line changed. If Boris Johnson had been anti-lockdown, you can be sure that Hancock would have been. When the official narrative changes, you can be sure Hancock will change his tune.
Spot on, Steve.
Both!
His first tweet there is to distract from the fact that more and more people are beginning to realise this whole thing is a scam. Let’s talk about more hospitals, nurses, cops instead.
Second is a retweet of Whitty retweeting about the (for me anyway) now discredited ONS’s latest Covid numbers. ONS is supposed to/used to produce numbers/statistics based on raw facts. Now we get bullshit like “our modelling this”, “our modelling that”, “we estimate” “modelling suggests”.
And that prick Hunt in the letter to his constituent talks about ‘facts. What a complete prick!
Whole things a sham!
“The modelling, that’s the data we are looking at.”
Patrick Vallance
With cases rising exponentially, it’s vital we take action to save lives & protect our NHS. Our localised approach is slowing the rate of growth, but everyone has a part to play in defeating Covid.
Look at this from Tim Spector
https://youtu.be/q-SwbhDIdxY
“Stay safe”
Jesus wept!