Government Slammed By Experts For Repeated Failings on Data Used For Lockdown
Professor Carl Heneghan and Dr Tom Jefferson from the Oxford Centre for Evidence-Based Medicine have penned a searing piece in the Telegraph excoriating the Government’s abysmal failures in presenting clear, honest, reliable data to justify its decisions.
The data failures in this pandemic have been considerable: continually they have overestimated the numbers going to die, mis-categorised COVID-19 deaths, exaggerated the impact on hospitals, and missed some 16,000 cases because of an Excel blunder.
Perhaps even worse, these failings do not come to light because of Government transparency – but rather when painstaking analysis, eagle eyes, and sometimes even the simplest of questions are enough to expose major faults.
Tellingly, the errors and misrepresentations only ever skew in one direction.
This week has seen death estimates invalidated; statements on case numbers from the chief medical officer to the Science Technology committee requiring “clarification to avoid any misinterpretation”; and significant errors in medium term projections that seemingly do not affect interpretations.
To understand and interpret the current Covid-19 data is proving nigh on impossible. The publication and presentation of data is confusing, and at times it is unsound.
The methods and data underlying the models used to generate “scenarios based on assumptions” are inscrutable and decisions taken on their basis are unaccountable. While the fog of a pandemic – with events taking place in real time – can justify or at least excuse some of these mistakes, nothing can justify the lack of transparency and humility.
Former Prime Minister Theresa May stated this week that: “For many people, it looks as if the figures are chosen to support the policy rather than the policy being based on the figures.”
The growing number of errors seem to occur in only one direction (the worst case scenario) which underpins the point.
Worth reading in full.
Stop Press: The UK Statistics Authority, the OSR, has given the Government a firm wrist slap.
In the context of the pandemic there are three things which governments should consistently do to support transparency:
– where data are used publicly, the sources of these data or the data themselves should be published alongside any press briefing and associated slides to allow people to understand their strengths and limitations
– where models are referred to publicly, particularly to inform significant policy decisions, the model outputs, methodologies and key assumptions should be published at the same time
– where key decisions are justified by reference to statistics or management information, the underlying data should be made availableWhen data and associated information are made available it should be done in an orderly way, and in a way that is equally accessible to all.
It is clear that those working on the pandemic face significant pressures. But full transparency is vital to public understanding and public confidence in statistics and those who use them.
Stop Press 2: The Government has been forced to reissue key charts used to justify the second lockdown after admitting projected fatalities were overstated. The Telegraph has the details.
Official projections which pushed the country into a second lockdown have been quietly revised to no longer suggest deaths could soon overtake those at the peak of the first wave, The Telegraph has learned.
Graphs presented at a televised Downing Street press conference on Saturday suggested that the UK would see up to 1,500 Covid deaths a day by early December, far beyond the numbers seen in the first wave.
But documents released by Government show that the figures were far too high and have been “amended after an error was found”. The forecast has been revised, reducing the upper end of the scale to around 1,000 deaths a day by December 8th – on a par with the peak of the pandemic in April.
Students Tear Down Hated Fence in Manchester
That’s a bit more like it. Students at Manchester University last night tore down a nasty metal fence that had been erected to confine them to their halls of residence. MailOnline has more.
Furious students last night ripped down a metal fence erected around their halls on the first day of England’s new coronavirus lockdown.
Crowds of undergraduates at Manchester University trampled on the barrier and set off flares in the Fallowfield area of the city.
Pictures showed tradesmen putting up the huge blockade for the four-week shutdown as scores of residents claimed it would have had a “devastating” impact on their mental health.
Joe Hindley, 19, a first-year maths student, said: “We’ve just been really frustrated. There’s no benefit we can see to them being up.”
He added: “They’ve said something about it increasing our safety but from what we can see it’s a complete waste of money.”
One student, who asked to remain unnamed, told MailOnline: “The consensus amongst the student population is that this is incredibly dehumanising.”
Another added the university had relayed “absolutely no information” about the fencing and that they only told students at 3pm Thursday.
Vice-Chancellor Professor Dame Nancy Rothwell last night apologised for the “concern and distress” and said it was meant to protect students from non-university visitors but would be removed today.
Okay, it’s not exactly a Berlin Wall moment. But still. Glad to see that some people in Britain are mad as hell and aren’t going to take it any more.
Worth reading in full.
Vitamin D: Did a Prescribing Ban in Care Homes Contribute to Fatalities?
We’re publishing today an important piece of original research by a dietitian and Lockdown Sceptics reader on the ongoing scandal of depriving our most vulnerable citizens of life-saving Vitamin D. She writes:
Vitamin D, contrary to popular thought, is not a vitamin. It is an inflammation-regulating steroid hormone involved in many of the body’s essential processes.1 Leaked NHS internal guidance, issued in June 2020, states that “evidence supports a causal role in Vitamin D status and COVID-19 outcomes”, and urges clinicians to “monitor, report and treat”.2
Meanwhile, a NICE rapid evidence review also published in June, states “there is no evidence to support taking vitamin D supplements to specifically prevent or treat COVID‑19.” However, it does re-enforce its September 2018 advice that at-risk groups should take a 10µg supplement all year round.3
Rewind to March 2018: the ‘world’s biggest quango’ NHS England, released new guidance not to issue Vitamin D and many other commonly available over-the-counter (OTC) medicines on prescription, which was intended to save NHS costs by promoting patient self-care.4
Vulnerable elderly care home residents, many of whom lack mental capacity, are unable to obtain Vitamin D without a prescription, as Care and Quality Commission (CQC) regulations prevent tablets being given by care staff without GP Guidance.5
This logistical deadlock has not been resolved, and Vitamin D deficiency has long been known to be widespread in care homes.6 Over 19,000 care home residents in England have died with COVID-19, representing at least 36% of all COVID-19 fatalities in England and Wales.7 8
In her conclusion she does not hold back.
The combination of loneliness, lockdown, and denial of a cheap and evidence-based treatment amounts to an abysmal failure of the most vulnerable members of our society. As we are locked down again, and the economy left to likely ruin, why is this safe, well-evidenced and ridiculously cheap treatment being ignored? This has to stop now. NHS England must review their position, and allow for and actively promote prescribing to those who cannot buy Vitamin D. If this Government really cared, instead of ‘stay home, protect the NHS, save lives’, they would stay ‘stay sane, take vitamin D, you could survive’.
Read it in full here.
Stop Press: Find a comprehensive summary of clinical and scientific studies on Vitamin D and COVID-19 on the excellent COVID-19 Studies website here. Also HCQ, Zinc and other treatments.
What’s Really Going On In The NHS
Yesterday, Shelley Tasker – a healthcare assistant at Treliske hospital in Cornwall – featured in a viral Facebook video showing her telling members of the public outside Truro Cathedral what is really going on behind closed doors in NHS hospitals. She announced:
Today I am publicly resigning OK? I am wearing this uniform sadly for the last time. I absolutely loved my job, those of you who have been following what’s going on, we’ve done tasks, we’ve organised protests, I’ve had a lot of flack.
We’re at the point now it’s all coming back to me. I’ve had an email from work last night asking me what’s going on, people are reporting me and unfortunately I can’t lie any more.
I did something really bad. I took a screenshot on Friday which shows the figures of how many people are in Treliske hospital with Covid and I shared it, because this should be public information.
Lots of people have to start speaking out, there’s lot of doctors and nurses who have come forward. They’re all on restrictive duties, they’re all seeing solicitors etc. I’ve decided there’s no point, I have gone against the rules of the NHS and have shared confidential information that people need to see.
The Mail has more details.
“We no longer have health care, we can’t see dentists. I can tell you now when I was working at the height of the pandemic I had no work for three weeks because there were no patients. We have a particular Covid ward. None of the wards were overflowing with Covid patients and they’re not now.”
She went on to claim that the flu and Covid cases are now recorded as “the same thing” on death certificates.
In response to cheers from the crowd, she continues: “I can tell you on Friday in Treliske there were three people in with Covid. No extra deaths, three – and that covers Treliske, West Cornwall and Hayle hospital.”
“The total deaths from these three hospitals in seven months, is 76 people – that’s about 10 people a month over the last seven months, and we have locked down.”
NHS figures show that 67 people died from COVID-19 at Treliske hospital between March and September, and official data seems to back up her point – there were just four people with the virus receiving care at the Royal Cornwall Hospitals NHS Trust on October 29th.
Speaking exclusively to FEMAIL about the figures the Government are presenting to the public, Shelley claimed: “It’s all lies. We’ve closed all of Cornwall down for three people in hospital. They haven’t even died – they’ve supposedly got COVID. How many people are going to die because of this? There’s a massive agenda going on here and people need to start realising.”
Stop Press: The Mail produced this graph which shows how small a proportion of hospitals beds Covid patients account for – never more than 30% even at the height in April.
Meanwhile, KCL’s Tim Spector says his ZOE Covid survey app shows the second peak has already passed. It’s day two of Lockdown 2 and the Government’s case has completely unravelled.
Three-Tier Lockdowns Make No Difference, Data Shows
We keep hearing that the three-tier system is working and explains why infections have been slowing and falling around the country. But what’s the evidence for this? A Lockdown Sceptics reader takes a closer look.
Chris Whitty and others have claimed that the restrictions have had an impact on helping curtail the spread. They clearly feel that non-essential shopping and restaurant/bar activity is at the heart of controlling the spread as it is the main difference between a Tier 3 level restriction and the current nationwide Lockdown.
In the graph I plot the Google Mobility data for “retail and recreation” for four cities and I’d say it raises some serious question marks about that assumption.
(As a quick aside, Google Mobility data tracks the difference in frequency and time spent in certain places for anyone with an Android phone who hasn’t turned off their location privacy sharing. This is a lot of people – Android is around 70% share of the mobile market. It is expressed as a percentage change versus the baseline i.e. the normal levels pre-Covid. There are multiple classifications like parks, residences and workplaces but we’re looking in particular at retail and recreation which includes restaurants and bars etc.)
The cities chosen are Manchester, Liverpool, Bristol and London – picked because they have differing levels of Covid infection rates. Their mobility figure rises from the spring lockdown low of -80% all the way up to -10% in Liverpool, for instance, at the end of August. The cities all start to slope back down as Eat Out to Help Out expires and the summer ends.
What seems apparent to me is that the Government restrictions (marked with the arrows) had very little impact on underlying activity in retail and recreation, despite what may have been said. Ultimately the positive test rate has plateaued or flat lined of its own accord.
This, to my mind, suggests that retail and recreation, which has currently been locked down, seems to have very little correlation with whether cases are rising or falling, placing serious questions over the most recent restrictions, which particularly target and harm the sector.
The absence of any discernible change in retail and recreation mobility when major restrictions like the Rule of 6 came in speaks against the efficacy of the measures. While we can see an impact on mobility data in, say, Manchester when it moved to Tier 3 on October 23rd, this had little to do with infections in the city slowing and flatlining, as we saw that happening weeks earlier before the end of September. Likewise we can see the impact on mobility data when Liverpool moved into Tier 3 on October 14th, but infections had stopped rising a week earlier.
Those who claim the three-tier system is responsible for slowing or declining infections need to produce evidence for that, as the data does not appear to be on their side.
Postcard From the Isle of Wight
We’ve received a postcard from the Isle of Wight from Lockdown Sceptics reader A.R. Norman.
One of the particular joys of living in our island corner of England is the sight of sailing boats out on the Solent – occasionally those menacing black-winged speed yachts hurtling at unfeasible velocity in their bid for Americas Cup glory, occasionally too the square or gaff rigs of large classic yachts, but many more of the brightly billowing spinnakers of the various racing boats vying for silver over the treacherous tides to the north, east and west of Cowes. Most of all, though, is the delight inspired by the sight of those earnest little dinghies sailed by youngsters in their thousands during the summer months.
But not this year. Cowes week was cancelled and now, with this second lockdown, 2021 is in the balance. As for the smaller sailing organisations, like our local club, though past stewards built up a cash reserve to keep us afloat during the economic downturns that trouble the finance committee from time to time, the club’s viability is now seriously threatened. No doubt it will survive, but it is unlikely to do so in its present form. For why? In a way the answer is obvious: it’s the economy, stupid. But there is another, more troubling answer, of which the economy is only part.
Worth reading in full.
Round-Up
- “Covid is nowhere near as dangerous as our pathological obsession with abolishing risk” – Excellent piece from Sherelle Jacobs in the Telegraph on the challenges lockdown sceptics face in winning the argument
- “The hard questions that must be asked about forecasts, numbers, data and treatments” – John Redwood on why he cannot support a second lockdown
- “SAGE would recommend a guillotine to cure a headache” – Sean Walsh is unimpressed with Government scientists in the Article
- “Lockdown sceptics must be aware of the inevitable third lockdown” – Luke Perry in Bournbrook looks ahead to what’s in store after the current shutdown
- “Furlough scheme extended to end of MARCH 2021 paying up to 80% of workers’ wages at ‘£30bn cost’ announces Rishi Sunak” – Here’s Rishi laying the groundwork for future lockdowns, in the Sun
- “Coronavirus pandemic is ‘fundamentally over in the UK‘” – Watch Dr Mike Yeadon speaking to Julia Hartley-Brewer on talkRADIO
- “Julia Hartley-Brewer: Why I No Longer Back Lockdown” – And watch Julia Hartley-Brewer talk to Darren Grimes on Reasoned
- “The Bank of England’s terrifying economic projections” – Robert Peston in the Spectator on the dreadful new BoE forecast of an 11% UK economic contraction in 2020
- “Sadly, it’s a complete myth that Britain can’t afford further lockdowns” – Matthew Lynn in the Telegraph with the unhappy observation that there are few constraints on how much money the British Government can print. Welcome to Argentina
- “Compulsory vaccination – the next step for COVID-19?” – Good post by Rosalind English on the UK Human Rights Blog on why the recently touted compulsory vaccination proposals would be unlikely to get past our human rights safeguards
- “London’s second wave of coronavirus is SLOWING: Official data shows infections are falling in 19 of 32 boroughs as even Sadiq Khan says ‘initial signs’ show the outbreak is beginning to tail off” – From the Mail. The move to Tier 2 is credited, but in fact London “cases” plateaued from October 21st, too soon to be attributed to the move to Tier 2 on October 16th
- “A Tale of Two Prescriptions” – Omar S. Khan in Medium on the two choices for how to deal with Covid and how we picked the wrong one
- “Flu away: Scientists baffled at disappearance of influenza… but is it really gone, or just masked by COVID-19?” – Science journalist Peter Andrews in RT explores the possibilities, and pokes holes in the dubious explanation that it’s all down to social distancing, which became the orthodoxy suspiciously quickly
- “Lockdown lunacy has reached a new low with the tale of the woman arrested for ‘rescuing’ her mother” – Judith Woods on fine sceptical form in the Telegraph
- “The NHS ‘may well have been the single biggest problem over Covid’” – Charles Moore appears on the Telegraph‘s Planet Normal podcast with Allison Pearson and Liam Halligan
- “Bounced into a second lockdown he didn’t want, is Boris Johnson still in charge of No 10?” – Fraser Nelson asks a good question in the Telegraph
Theme Tunes Suggested by Readers
Two today: “The Road to Nowhere” by Talking Heads and “Ain’t got a clue” by the Lurkers.
Love in the Time of Covid
We have created some Lockdown Sceptics Forums, including a dating forum called “Love in a Covid Climate” that has attracted a bit of attention. We have a team of moderators in place to remove spam and deal with the trolls, but sometimes it takes a little while so please bear with us. You have to register to use the Forums, but that should just be a one-time thing. Any problems, email the Lockdown Sceptics webmaster Ian Rons here.
Sharing stories: Some of you have asked how to link to particular stories on Lockdown Sceptics. The answer used to be to first click on “Latest News”, then click on the links that came up beside the headline of each story. But we’ve changed that so the link now comes up beside the headline whether you’ve clicked on “Latest News” or you’re just on the Lockdown Sceptics home page. Please do share the stories with your friends and on social media.
“Mask Exempt” Lanyards
We’ve created a one-stop shop down here for people who want to buy (or make) a “Mask Exempt” lanyard/card. You can print out and laminate a fairly standard one for free here and it has the advantage of not explicitly claiming you have a disability. But if you have no qualms about that (or you are disabled), you can buy a lanyard from Amazon saying you do have a disability/medical exemption here (takes a while to arrive). The Government has instructions on how to download an official “Mask Exempt” notice to put on your phone here. You can get a “Hidden Disability” tag from ebay here and an “exempt” card with lanyard for just £1.99 from Etsy here. And, finally, if you feel obliged to wear a mask but want to signal your disapproval of having to do so, you can get a “sexy world” mask with the Swedish flag on it here.
Don’t forget to sign the petition on the UK Government’s petitions website calling for an end to mandatory face masks in shops here.
A reader has started a website that contains some useful guidance about how you can claim legal exemption.
And here’s an excellent piece about the ineffectiveness of masks by a Roger W. Koops, who has a doctorate in organic chemistry.
Mask Censorship: The Swiss Doctor has translated the article in a Danish newspaper about the suppressed Danish mask study. Largest RCT on the effectiveness of masks ever carried out. Rejected by three top scientific journals so far.
The Great Barrington Declaration
The Great Barrington Declaration, a petition started by Professor Martin Kulldorff, Professor Sunetra Gupta and Professor Jay Bhattacharya calling for a strategy of “Focused Protection” (protect the elderly and the vulnerable and let everyone else get on with life), was launched last month and the lockdown zealots have been doing their best to discredit it. If you Googled it a week after launch, the top hits were three smear pieces from the Guardian, including: “Herd immunity letter signed by fake experts including ‘Dr Johnny Bananas’.” (Freddie Sayers at UnHerd warned us about this hit job the day before it appeared.) On the bright side, Google UK has stopped shadow banning it, so the actual Declaration now tops the search results – and Toby’s Spectator piece about the attempt to suppress it is among the top hits – although discussion of it has been censored by Reddit. The reason the zealots hate it, of course, is that it gives the lie to their claim that “the science” only supports their strategy. These three scientists are every bit as eminent – more eminent – than the pro-lockdown fanatics so expect no let up in the attacks. (Wikipedia has also done a smear job.)
You can find it here. Please sign it. Now well over 600,000 signatures.
Update: Prof Sunetra Gupta has penned a defence of the GBD for the AIER. Find it here.
Update 2: Many of the signatories of the Great Barrington Declaration are involved with new UK anti-lockdown campaign Recovery. Find out more and join here.
Judicial Reviews Against the Government
There are now so many JRs being brought against the Government and its ministers, we thought we’d include them all in one place down here.
First, there’s the Simon Dolan case. You can see all the latest updates and contribute to that cause here.
Then there’s the Robin Tilbrook case. You can read about that and contribute here.
Then there’s John’s Campaign which is focused specifically on care homes. Find out more about that here.
There’s the GoodLawProject’s Judicial Review of the Government’s award of lucrative PPE contracts to various private companies. You can find out more about that here and contribute to the crowdfunder here.
The Night Time Industries Association has instructed lawyers to JR any further restrictions on restaurants, pubs and bars.
Christian Concern is JR-ing the Government over its insistence on closing churches during the lockdowns. Read about it here.
And last but not least there’s the Free Speech Union‘s challenge to Ofcom over its ‘coronavirus guidance’. You can read about that and make a donation here.
Samaritans
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First! Lost our election, but first to comment. Small consolation, but I’ll take it.
If you’re talking about the US, it’s not lost yet.
I’m not particularly hopeful, though. And I live in WA state- not as bad as UK or even close, but all of the masked faces are starting to take a toll. 10 months ago I said we’d never go for it. This is America, even in Washington. I am absolutely shocked by my fellow citizens… That doesn’t breed hope, but maybe I’m just grumpy today.
If the masks went it would be such a relief to so many. I’ve been issued the ‘parents must wear masks’ from the kids school.
How about No
They’ve had one case of a +PCR
I would tell the school to shove their mask rule jumped up windbags
Ask them to send evidence that long term wearing of masks does no harm. If they cannot (which they cannot), do NOT let your children wear masks and do not wear masks yourself as the sight of them is HUGELY damaging to children (they do not know the subliminal trauma they are experiencing when they see masked faces and are burying their trauma!)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eJuj0rx-48&feature=emb_logo
Ivor Cummins on the figures.
at 26mins it seems that from week 40 every positive test is counted as a case even if tis the same person being tested!
So as the ONS is paying people to be tested weekly for 4 weeks this means 4 times the cases (positive test results) hence their predictions of exponential numbers
“And I live in WA state”
Is Biden going to rename that Floyd State?
I doubt Biden will complete his first term if he were to win
Surprised Inslee hasn’t already done that.
Fun fact: King county was already renamed once, from “king,” (after an important local figure), to “king,” now named after Martin Luther King Jr, who has absolutely no connection whatsoever to Washington State.
The election has been won by the Democrats using voter fraud. The thing is, the Republicans know what these weasels are capable of and did nothing about it. It makes them complicit in their own downfall and because they’ve done nothing about the voting fraud they may never win another election.
The Repuplicans knew all about voter fraud in 2000.
Exactly. The Undemocratics have been spellng out for weeks exactly what they were going to do.
What I don’t get is why Americans don’t protest any of this. There are protests all over Europe but we just comply here.
It’s insane. I’m sitting in Bellevue WA right now waiting for my wife at the Dr. I’d say it’s 100% mask compliance. No questions asked.
They are I can see it happening in the UK soon
Well over here the Orcs are in charge
I still wouldn’t count out Trump just yet he can still pull it off
Commiserations. It’s been a dreadful spectacle seeing the shenanigans over there. No wonder Biden barely came out of his basement. They knew the fix was in, and campaigning was unnecessary.
Remember, remember, the 5th of November
Lockdown, treason and plot.
Until 1859 celebrating the official government conspiracy theory was legally enforced.
I am going to be the buzzkill- first poster(well maybe not now though it hardly matters) and am always annoyed by the thought that being the first poster merits anything. Our situation is too grave to be caring about these things. Now, please stop with the entire virus narrative- what we are witnessing are mass crimes and what we saw in March/April was mass euthanasia that was done in order to create the dead bodies for the orchestrated scheme to completely alter the current social order. These governments know full well that “Covid” is being used as cover for crashing the economies in the Western world. There is not now and never has been a “pandemic”- that is all Kabuki theater to disguise the reality of rapid economic decline brought on by the Ponzi Schemes of financial institutions over the past few decades. The US (and much of the Western world) is in economic free fall. This was occurring long before Covid Mania was engineered but now it is moving with much greater velocity. The collapse started in 2008 and attempts to salvage this Leviathan have been failures only delaying the inevitable. Fast forward to 2019 and the crisis began… Read more »
Great post. I’ll put it on my website (unless you object).
No objection.
We should all copy it to those, that are still resistant to reason and fact. If it does nothing else, it may cause a few of of them to feel a little uncomfortable and then who knows where that may lead.
Beat you to the first post, bam!
I think you are too cynical. I was a criminal defense lawyer for several years… Any conspiracy with more than one person is destined to fail.
Was it C.S. Lewis who said this? “Stop pretending that there are not also forces on the side of good.”
Or something like that. I’ve been depressed tonight as well, but it’s about time to snap out of it.
Logical fallacy, argument from incredulity.
Are you saying that the Kennedy assassination was not a conspiracy? And depending on your view 911 was a conspiracy of gargantuan proportions whoever you think may have been responsible.
What about the moon landings or the Gulf of Tonkin, Vietnam war?
The Kennedy assassination was not a conspiracy.
the House of Representatives Select Committee on Assassinations begs to differ with you.
It’s called disagreeing. People used to do it quite a lot.
Stating your opinion as though it’s objective truth is not disagreeing. A disagreement needs discussion first.
I agree as I see the majority of posts on social media follow this format.
Whoops, I didn’t spot your post, before replying in similar vein.
And openly!
But only when there was something to disagree about. You can’t prove a negative, so at best it’s only your opinion and a minority one at that.
Don’t know where to begin with such a comment. Can I assume you have either not researched this or misinformed?
Because the evidence to contrary is absolutely huge. Even against all that you actually believe that LHO with a bolt action Mannlicher Carcano somehow pulled it off that is still a conspiracy because of his links, background and associates.
As mentioned even the House Assassinations committee were forced to accept that view in 1977.
As long as you don’t use Oliver stone as a research aid. The movie was a lot of fantasy. Maybe the killing wasn’t just LHO, but it wasn’t the movie version either.
The movie provided some interesting links and touchstones but there is a huge well of material out there by a large range of sources that delve into much greater detail. The movie largely draws on the work of Jim Marrs Crossfire but there is so much more some still being uncovered by researchers.
For such a topic its impossible even to get a consensus from those who provide it but so much of went on, the links, associates and evidence of those whose involvement is only tangential, are wide and varied.
We will never uncover the true details but as others have said whatever and whoever was responsible including Oswald, the evidence of conspiracy is overwhelming and irrefutable.
And GHW Busch couldn’t remember where he was on 20 November 1963. And what about Bobby. And what about ML King. All part of the process destroying popular movements and entrenching the oligarchy.
Totally agree
Absolutely.
Yes, Annie is swimming against a fast flowing tide. She will likely drown.
sweet jesus. really? really?! even their own government accept it… google: United States House Select Committee on Assassinations
American government needs clearing out of traitors like the British government foes
Agreed…they openly killed him because he did not want to go to Vietnam nd fucked up the Cubans in the bay of Pigs. No conspiracy=y, the Cia and Army openly took him out..Btw Oswald was such a bad shot apparently he would not be able to make that shot if he tried 100 times over .
Oh dear me.
No, what I mean is that conspiracies come out, not that they don’t ever happen. I was being hyperbolic, but the more people involved, the more likely it will come out.
Case-in-point. If year’s presidential election is thoroughly investigated, and there was widespread fraud, I think it will be discovered.
Thanks for the clarification Ryan.
Trouble is these things may ‘come out’ as you say but then they are reduced to ‘conspiracy theories’ which is enough of a pejorative to scare most people away – that is the point. And by their nature are hard to penetrate and really understand for those interested.
I think its clear that some very dodgy things are happening with regards the count in the election but depending on how long that takes to really uncover the narrative will simply be reduced to ‘bad losing’ or ‘conspiracy theory’ by the media. It is already happening here and by such a narrative it actually facilitates it. So for most they won’t really believe beyond what the msm say.
I think you’re right. Unless it is thoroughly revealed and actually reported. At some point the public may turn on the press… Little better than Pravda at this point. I wonder if America as a whole still retains enough of our roots to still have that tipping point.
Sure hope so.
Yep I agree. Always saw America as the last bastion of freedom. Not so sure these days though…
Unless it uncovers a fundamental systemic corruption deemed ‘too big to fail’. The vertical self-preservation of a fear directed and fear protecting narrative IS the blind conspiracy to NOT see and NOT know what your life (as you currently accept it) depends upon NOT seeing. If you step out of line you are penalised. If you persist, you are invalidated, neutralised, or excommunicated. This is so obvious as to be the definer of what we can think, say, see and share in. It is fear-driven private self-interest under narrative masking justifications. The corporate (and conspiratorial) practice uses masking of agenda in multiple ‘fronts’ as both perception management and hiding or masking money trails – and most of the financial system now is the underbelly – not the surface. Freedom of association for key points of influence makes networks that can be leveraged to specific outcomes at key moments under their own ‘masking justifications’. And so there is no need or call for conspiring to any single narrative intent, but merely to exert incentivised pressure in any and all systems to nudge and frame it in thought and regulations that render the society, institution of corporation less resilient to being corrupted… Read more »
The Americans got a well deserved hiding in vietnam I don’t dislike them before my time at least Mr Wilson kept Britain out of it imagine if Blair Cameron or Johnson were PM back in the 60’s
I’m sure at one point in the campaign Biden said Trump killed Kennedy.
It depends upon how much money there is and whose hands it is in. Essentially they have an unlimited supply and the people have zilch. About the only thing that can stop this destruction of our society is the application of Common Law.
I’m neither depressed nor cynical.
I never enter into either of those conditions.
It’s fairly obvious this is the plan. Covid is a great cover up for the economic collapse that was imminent anyway…you can’t prop up a Fiat currency forever with Qantitative Easing. Rishi will continue QE until March, to make sure more S&M businesses collapse (easy pickings for large companies) and people get used to a universal credit type income. They want to remove independence, and create reliance on big business and the state = Control. Once conditions are right the “Not so Great Reset” can begin.
Only one problem. More people are waking up, and will not go quietly. I’m convinced that the criminals behind this will be exposed and sent to jail. It’s just a matter of time.
It is just a matter if time. That’s why we need a ‘passion of patience’.
The government and its supporting gangsters are living right on the San Andreas fault. The rocks are locked ( down), but there’s a limit to how much stress they can take.
They must be feeling the tremors…they are panicking and exposing their hand, which is why Control is so important. I’m actually wondering if the lockdown was also about stopping the ever growing public unrest and demonstrations…
Beware Carroll Quigley Tragedy and Hope:
The purpose was not to destroy, dominate, or take over but was really threefold: (1) to keep informed about the thinking of Left-wing or liberal groups; (2) to provide them with a mouthpiece so that they could ‘blow off steam,’ and (3) to have a final veto on their publicity and possibly on their actions, if they ever went ‘radical.’
Sounds like an accurate description, but what is this case you refer to please? I’ve never heard of it.
“I’m actually wondering if the lockdown was also about stopping the ever growing public unrest and demonstration”
Well yes, that was one of its fundamental aims. The lockdowns, testing and other restrictions are also part of getting us to accept the idea of being injected with one or another of Bill Gates’s depopulator vaccines. Once vaccinated we will be finished and so the vaccines must be resisted, as if your life depended on it, which of course it does. It should really go without saying, that you should never volunteer to be tested for Covid-19.
Oh dear, disagreeing again. It needs a passion of action. They hold the cash, the guns and too many corrupted institutions. Who can stop them with most of the population effectively enslaved by fear?
You really do give up too easily. That’s what they want. Hope and a positive attitude are the key.
I said a Passion of Action is needed. Read what I say!
Did you not read my other posts? I say over and over again to people here to get organized, get into small groups, take on a task that needs doing, and work at it all day and every day.
They hold the power and are acting fast and we are sitting around telling one another to be patient and get some popcorn. No!!!!!!
Get out there and get to work.
Not here, baby! We love our guns. There’s one not 8 inches from me right now (in a quick-access safe… It’s 11:21 pm over here so I’m about to go to sleep).
I have a catapult and a 30 year old air rifle in a quick access cupboard.
Of course I sincerely hope that they will be in jail. But by what mechanism? What power or authority?
There are many lawsuits being filed all over the world. Unless the judiciary have been compromised this easily proven unlawful behaviour will soon be exposed. What sets a precedent in one country will apply to the next.
There’s a huge amount of compromise already. We know that from many appalling decisions in the climate change scam.
What’s worse is that when the climate realists have won in the courts, nothing changes. They simply ignore it.
These legal actions won’t achieve anything without widespread and mass popular support from the public. That’s why the deluge of propaganda continues.
FFS listen to me.
Get out on the streets and talk to people, try to persuade them, put up posters, put round leaflets, do everything you can and stop leaving it to other people to carry all the responsibility.
I intend to place a placard at our local war memorial, apologising to the fallen for the way the populace is kow-towing to the grotesque whims of a few unconscionably rich individuals.
Would be nice. But populations support this shit. Go into a grocery store and count the masks. That’s ignorant fear and blind trust in government. It’s not hauling King John up the hill by the scruff of his neck and forcing him to sign the magna carts…
Carta… Not carts.
Look at the students pulling the fence down in Manchester. They all had masks on
I’d have worn one too in those circumstances….who wants to be recognised when they don’t have to be? Its difficult to take action against someone you can’t recognise
I don’t want them jailed, I want them dispatched.
Brilliant post Allen Thanks
It burns in silence behind a veil of willful blindness. Both isolated and detached from the physical presence of one another, and nature herself, we are in freefall. Remains of relationships in piles of invisible ashes.
Had to look up ‘deliquesce’. Good word. Good post, too albeit depressing beyond words.
‘Physical is dangerous, digital is safe. Humans are lethal, technology is benign. Masks assist in dehumanising the human body. The conditioning for avoidance of human intimacy. Children learning not to touch. Nature is both separate and zoonotic – stay home, stay safe. ‘
Unfortunately I see this more and more in my job. People based in offices who are terrified of the outside world unless it has been manicured and manipulated. I find more and more that these people are looking askance at anyone who likes being outside, or doing any thing physical or manual. Its the real world verses the fake…fake is winning.
I see more of us oldies out in the countryside walking , gardening, getting mucky in the weather, now that’s all good for the immune system,and the spirit.
“Each day we are becoming a creature of splendid glory or one of unthinkable horror.” -C. S. Lewis
I don’t find much glory in myself. I trust that God will give me a little, for free (that’s the meaning of grace). .But I utterly reject the forces that want to turn me into a creature of unspeakable horror.
Hell is the place where people wear face nappies for eternity. Heaven is the place where you see God face to face, and know even as you are known.
Hell’s adumbration is the supermarket.
Heaven’s adumbration is your smile.
Agreed!
There will be no u-turn. They’re in too deep.
Reading down today’s devastating roll of critiques, the government shouldn’t last another hour.
But they will. I see that the equally despicable May creature wants to get back into #10. Better start writing to the 1922 Committee now to put a stop to that. Never forget, remember her treachery.
Who shall we support? John Redwood?
Nigel Farage.
Annie, only in terms of gathering momentum against lockdown, not candidates. Last time was too weird, the withdrawal of candidates. And the campaign was abysmal, I should know.
He tried to do the right thing to avoid splitting the vote and letting Corbin in. I doubt he’d play ball again.
I’d like to think that you are right… But can’t agree. Every debate I’ve had with people involved concludes that it was either an appalling mistake, or worse.
Too many stories from ukip days as well.
I can vouch the recruitment process for candidates to stand was dire – poorly executed and very unprofessional, it appeared no selection process was done as all communication was automated and you booked your 15 minute slot for an ‘interview’ online. Inspite of requests, they were not forthcoming with any other policies than Brexit, I was also not particularly happy providing copies of passport etc during the online application process – where was the assurance of data safeguards. Anyway, needless to say I declined an interview; if the recruiting process is dubious, does this not reflect on the institution, and how could I support, with conviction on the street, a party that appeared to have only one policy.
I can vouch for that too. I never actually received a decision after my interview and was left to assume I hadn’t made the cut.
I also campaigned in Wales and to say that the local organisation was poor would be an understatement. A shame, since you are left wondering what could have been achieved by a professionally run outfit.
In retrospect it was an appalling mistake, but I also saw where Brexit Party and Tory party candidates in one constituency had just under 30% of the votes each, i.e. nearly 60%, but Labour won the seat with 31%. That’s what Farage didn’t want to happen. The Tories wouldn’t play ball and do a deal. They won, but had the BXP not stood down, we could have ended up with neither, and either Corbyn supported by the SNP, or a hung parliament.
It was a bad but understandable choice.
RUBBISH!!! Yes the Consocialist majority would have been less, but they would still have won and would have been much more likely to behave.
In any case, even Dustbyn would not have been worse than Bozo & Co.
I am not, and never have been, a Conservative. But the Conservative party, with new leadership and direction, are probably our only hope at the next election. The fringe parties that will inevitably pop up, will only split the Conservative vote and hand Labour the election on a plate. Kier Starmer in charge of this country would be like jumping out of a small frying pan into an enormous fire.
https://www.remove-the-tory-government.org
The conservatives will never change
The whole LibLabConSNP need consigning to history
That sort of thinking got us here.The Conservative party needs to be destroyed and labour with it.
If we are allowed to vote again the choice will be between freedom and slavery.
Both major parties are signed up to the slavery agenda
I absolutely agree with you: the board should be wiped clean.
But when it comes time for me to vote in a general election (if there ever is one again), I will have to think carefully about tactical voting.
It makes me sick not to be able to vote my conscience, but if I need to vote Conservative to keep Kier Stalin out of office, I will.
There’s not much point voting for a minority party, only to let a dictator in.
I’m not sure that actually makes a lot of sense.
Let’s play the counter-factual: Labour wins in 2019 thanks to a split vote Tory/TBP. On Brexit, Labour would be in, but with Corbyn at the helm, and no possibility of claiming the election had been a vote for Remain. It would have been a mess – not so dissimilar from the present situation. On wider issues, the split in the Labour Party would have made them impotent. When the Covid came, the Tories would probably have opposed Labour, rather than egged them on into lockdown – in fact, the Covid situation would have been much better for that reason.
Instead, we have a Tory Party aping Labour, and a Labour ‘opposition’ apparently calling the shots. It would have been better for TBP to stand and fight hard, and for us to vote with our consciences.
agree !!
You make some valid points about how things might have been different now. My worry is for the future.
I feel that something fundamental has changed in politics, that something has snapped in this country, that there is a very real possibility of totalitarianism.
Corona-fear has been a runaway success for the authorities. Couple that with climate-fear, and I feel that a government under Starmer could easily convince the sheep into accepting an eco-health-technology dictatorship that once written into law and protected by willing supplicants would be impossible to overturn without a great deal of bloodshed.
I am heartened by reports of people pushing back against the lockdown, but it don’t believe that will translate to a rejection of the corona lie. They don’t want lockdown, but when they’re let out of their cages they’ll still wear their sodding masks.
Dunno. Maybe I’m just losing it. I hope so.
Thanks for this, Mabel Cow.
I think the Tories have shown that in government they will just ape Labour. They are not opposing Starmer now – they are doing what he tells them. At least in opposition they might actually oppose rather than execute Starmer’s policies.
No one not even the creep Starmer could be worse than this Bozo government which works directly to Bill Gate’s vaccine agenda. After saying that, I could never ever vote Labour, which was really killed off by Blair and has now been put to rest by the utterly stupid Starmer.
But a third party with enough public support will scare the bejesus out of the Tories. If Farage’s Reform Party win big in the local elections, the Tories might be scared enough to change tack.
They’ll also set the entire establishment on them to undermine them, and there’ll be a media blitz to discredit them.
I agree that in an ideal world both Cons and Lab would be totally destroyed, but this is not going to happen. The new parties will take votes from the Cons and the Labour party will win. The turkeys will vote for christmas and you know it.
If Labour gets in, under Starmer, they will be signing up to the great reset in a flash!
True in this case it will be for a whole range of issues related to the reset as Corona in its current form would not be an issue by the time Starmer came to power.
As a caretaker to get us over this either he or IDS would fit the bill. It can’t be long term though, the Conservative party has had it and those who showed integrity this week would do well very soon to jump ship to one of the newer parties.
Agree, Redwood or IDS.
Redwood has been a good local MP for me – Had a few conversations with him – he talks rationally – I personally disagree with him about Brexit – but he is a decent intelligent man
Redwood should of become Premier back in 1990 when Thatcher resigned instead We got the god awful major
Major was utterly ghastly and still is…an establishment politician if ever there was one. Edwina Currie must have been very ambitious to want to shag that creature.
John Redwood did not stand in 1990. He stood against Major at a later date in 1995. The 1990 election was between Hurd, Heseltine and Major.
He should have been leader years ago but Iain Duncan Smith got the job instead.
Bring back IDS, never thought we’d be wishing for that.
Benjamine Netanyahu with Evil Pritti at the helm. Why rock the boat?
This government needs running out of office so does the Labour party I mercifully vote SDP
Labour doesn’t matter, it is the Bozo government that is deliberately running the country into the ground and doing it on behalf of depopulator Bill Gates and the manic Klaus Schwab. We are so utterly fucked.
While I am a great admirer of John Redwood, his achilles heel is his unflinching loyalty to the Conservative Party – to the point of Stockholm Syndrome.
Seems a nice guy but not PM material? Charles Walker put in a great speech. But I think of him as a Mayist and I never want to go back to the May era.
Agree. We are being manipulated and played by a vast media/gov machine that has access to enormous quantities of information, and effectively infinite money and resources.
All those people who have not been watching the intrigues from the Conservative Party ever since the Brexit vote, I implore you to listen to those of us who have. If the ‘red wall’ had done so they would never have voted for them in December.
TMay’s speech critical of lockdown was another sly deceitful trick. She’s a past master at pretending to be doing one thing while actually doing another.
Johnson being now tarnished, they are lining up May to go back in by her false and shallow trick. Speaking against it and not voting against it. In fact, if I recall correctly, she didn’t vote, so her handlers will have a free hand in portraying her either for or against lockdown.
She’ll do the ‘heavy heart’ thing and shed tears to perfection… Then lock us up and force test us and force vaccinate, the lot.
If they have any advantage from access to such quantities of information why is it that most of what we have been saying for many many months is still proving to be true.
Some LS readers are clearly technically qualified in various fields but most of us rely on gut instinct, observable reality and life experiences.
I’m not sure if we are understanding one another or talking at cross purposes.
But we here read most of what they are up to, but not all of it.
I meant that we understood what the virus was (not a big deal), how it would play out (minor second Wave or seasonal return) and what their reaction would be (lockdown 2 to cover up their mistakes).
It was also predicted that masks were a ploy to get us to accept the vaccine though in my case it was said in jest.
Not sure they want to put May back in. There are many waiting in the sidelines desperate to ‘lead’ the country especially Gove
and Jeremy Hunt- essentially he has been briefing against the govt in some recent interviews-although his record as Health sec in reducing NHS capacity may count against him
Never Gove bigger liar than Johnson
Agree Gove is probably next in line although Rishi is tipped to be. He probably knew the deal before the election and didn’t think Boris would go for it.
Interesting theory that makes sense.
What has happened this year, those who saw the signs, simply were unable to accept that it really would happen.
A warning now to us as regards the rest of this shiiteshow, forced vaccination, ‘health passports’ , supply chain disruption and all. Get out and debrainwash the sheepie, now! Posters, leaflets, talk, etc etc
Gove ushered in the May era…can’t forgive him for that.
There are too much money to go around
Just as wicked as Johnson, but more competent. Not Gove.
They have to be sacked. Who ever provided them a model 33% out even using their doom parameters is seriously in the wrong job.
From Will’s story above:
I wonder how the government will spin this one.
I guess Professor Spector will be the next scientist to be rubbished by Handjob at the dispatch box.
Same smears same lies same story that the real climate scientists have been enduring for decades. Shame nobody paid any attention to their plight, and still are not….
Yes well done them. More please!
Repulsive university authorities claiming that the fences were to keep the nasties out, rather than prison fences keeping the student-slaves in.
Liars, tyrants, devils.
Totally agree but they are also weak and back down as soon as vigorously challenged. We should all learn something from that.
Too right! No pussy footing around politely with the virtue signallers and zealots, but give them a stream of passionate truth!
In the past 48 hours I have recieved my 2nd and 3rd text reminders to take the ‘normal’ flu jab from my GP Surgery.
In previous years I have had only one such text.
Furthermore I am no longer expected to get a bus to a trading estate with a lengthy walk to the cattle market (or a £7.00 each way taxi); the flu jabbing station is now the church hall directly across the road from the Surgery.
They must be really desperate to get their flu jab bonus and create their covid vaccine database.
No Thanks.
But flu is gone this year thanks to magic masks! Definitely no need for a vaccine.
It’s simpler than that. Flu and Covid are now the same thing.
I know :). Sarcasm fail! The RT article in the links today is good on this
So we should be demanding our rights them Johnson will pay dearly
Oddly enough, I’ve so far not had my usual letter about the flu vaccine. I generally have it but as I’m stuck in this year there seems little point.
If they have your mobile number they will text you. Otherwise, or if you don’t have mobile, you have to chase them up, seems they don’t send out letters. I had mine this week (but in the surgery car park!). I have had it for several years now and it seemed sensible – no side effects as of yet. As for COVID jabs that is a completely different matter and I would be reluctant.
Update.
Alex Belfied YouTube reports that the BMA have emailed all GP Surgeries to prepare for a covid vaccination programme starting 1st December.
Curiouser and curiouser given that lockdown 2 is set to finish the day after.
Untested and unsafe, beware the speed of the agenda against us! Not a time for patience but for the highest sense of urgency.
Wake up, Sceptics, or it will be too late.
I don’t want to be able to say to you, “I told you so !”
We all know that Rosie, let’s see what happens to the eager hoards who take it in the hope of being made free.
BMA need investigated for their actions Vaccines take years as well to prepare
https://www.bmj.com/content/368/bmj.m626/rr
THAT is a good reason NOT to take flu jabs. Pass it around.
“South Korean authorities stick to flu vaccine plan after deaths rise to 48”
“[Singapore] MOH advises temporarily ceasing use of 2 flu vaccines after deaths in South Korea”
Thanks GK. Emailed it to my doctors surgery, along with the Anna Brees video interviews with Dr Mike Yeadon and with Graham Hutchinson.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCi9eHpvhK9fYnqALwPX4MNQ
Have previously also sent them a copy of the Dr Bhakdi book Corona – false alarm?, and the GB Declaration.
I think it is good to keep your doctors informed – because Public Health England, the BMA and NICE clearly won’t if it doesn’t suit their agenda.
Perhaps I should also send them some material on Vitamin D?
Same here, even if I’ve refused the flu jab for more years than I can remember and have always indicated why (no proof that it works, never had the flu and hence don’t feel the need to mess with my immune system), my GP has ‘proposed’ a flu jab every single time I was in touch for something entirely unrelated. Last time I was told there wasn’t enough in stock to serve all comers anyway, so I was relieved they at least didn’t repeat that bs about doing it ‘to protect the weak’ – doesn’t bode well though that despite all studies showing higher sensitivity to coronaviruses following the flu jab, the general populace is still clamoring to have it in droves.
Me, too. They won’t do my blood tests which were previously ‘vital’ for cancer, though! They get paid extra for administering vaccinations. As someone who had their health ruined by a BCG jab I was forced to have whilst working for the NHS, I would urge everyone to refuse these specially targeted vaccines.
The Fraser Nelson piece in the DT (paywalled) is interesting for a couple of things he says: His [Boris] overruled officials did not give up, and kept coming back with memos pointing to a second wave, which – at its peak – would be four times larger than the first. He had no one to ask for a second opinion, no “red-team” of epidemiologists to ask how plausible this scenario would be. He’s got a whole load of people he could have called; Heneghan, Gupta, Michael Levitt, and more… Bloody hell, he could have called us here at LS; we’d have told him the doomsters’ forecasts were rubbish. 😉 One of the questions that must be asked is: why is he not able to call anyone else? He’s the Prime Minister, FFS! Who’s stopping him? The 2nd thing that Nelson says that really annoys me is this – he says: The Prime Minister will have cause to be aggrieved. “That regional approach was showing signs of working,” he moaned to Parliament a few days ago. “It’s still showing signs of working.” Quite so. Daily infections in Liverpool have almost halved from their peak last month.In Nottingham, they are down by… Read more »
It’s a nonsense ring-fenced viewpoint based on the official narrative that this is necessary or a series of cock-ups. It isn’t. It’s a Davos coup d’etat and Boris (and his father) is aware of that. What do you think PMs and MPs and wealthy folks and groups do in Davos? Why bother meeting if it is just a talking shop?
Yeah, I’m getting fed up hearing from people saying it’s all a cock-up, or it’s just incompetence.
Davos is where Prime Ministers and Presidents go to receive their instructions.
All our Premiers need to be forbidden from participating in Davis, UN WHO IMF it’s not just the EU that infringes on Nations it’s the outfits mentioned
Chaos – agree. I think Stanley Johnson’s globalist influence is key here.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Johnson_(writer)
A former employee of the World Bank and the European Commission, he has written books on environmental and population issues.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Books-Stanley-Johnson/s?rh=n%
http://tapnewswire.com/2020/09/ultimate-proof-covid-19-was-planned-to-usher-in-the-new-world-order/
(20. ‘Scenario For The Future’
This renown researcher refers to a famous document by the Rockefeller Foundation in which everything we see happening now is literally predicted in great detail: the global pandemic, the lock-downs, the collapse of the economy and the imposing of authoritarian control.
It’s all described with terrifying accuracy… ten years before it happened!)
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1241163/nigel-farage-lbc-news-boris-johnson-family-huawei-ban-5g-network-china
A question: is the MSM (and Toby) deliberately pivoting towards an ‘incompetence’ narrative, to deflect people away from investigating the great reset agenda, which had been gaining traction?
Also to stop people noticing the plans for mass vaccination to start on 1st December?
Is the aim now to get people focused on and het up about the misuse of stats and being in lockdown so that they do not have time to organise anti-vaccination protests before the programme gets approved and is put into action?
Maybe the government do not really care if this lockdown is not followed, because they are busy planning the ‘surprise’ compulsory mass vaccinations to start at the beginning of December – which will allow them to lift the lockdown in time for Christmas?
Agree. Fraser/the Spectator is nervous or plain ignorant when faced with data. Though excellent with political gossip and insight. They did publish Dr John Lee and trying to show some stats now, but it’s all partial / caveated and always “balanced” by some propaganda article from a government shill.
Oh, Alcina, that is sooooooo spot on!
I have commented on here a couple of times about Fraser, especially about his ‘politeness’ and , in my opinion, his unwillingness to say anything ‘too’ bad about Boris and his crew. I suspect he doesn’t want to lose the exclusives he gets for the Speccy.
Managed dissent, that’s all it is.
He’s a mixture but overall, IMO, heavily compromised.
The PM doesn’t have causes to be aggrieved, he has cause to be ashamed.
Supposing the word to be in his vocabulary.
LOL! You got me. 😉
Johnson out now wake up 1922 committee wake up Britain
Government spin.Part of the I don’t want to lock you up as I’m a libertarian sort of guy.
The original lockdown was a political decision despite sage advice.
They are just bending the data to suit a political agenda.
Johnson was never leadership material it’s time for him to go take the odious Hancock with Him
Yes, both very good points. First, the government has only itself to blame for having only bad advice. They chose the advisers and stuck with them despite their failure to stand up to the browbeating in March that drove them off the formerly sensible response and into supporting radical policy proposals that should have been unacceptable on principle to any conservative and traditionalist leader.
Second, the tendency for political types like Nelson to seek to “compromise” on regional tier lockdowns needs to be scotched before it gets too strong a grip. The graph posted above the line today shows that the regional tiers probably had as little effect as the original lockdown and for similar reasons – the spread had already peaked in most cases before the measures were enacted.
https://www.getborisout.com
Dec 13, 2019 — Boris Johnson is a bouncy British Brexit bounder
Dec 13, 2020 — Boris Kemal is a Davos stooge man-child tyrant
Guys, worth a listen:
Daily Telegraph Planet Normal podcast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=305NOK6IhQs
Even if you don’t want to listen to it all, please listen between 8m30s and 17m10s.
Allison Pearson and Liam Halligan have a nice insider exclusive on the fake figures coming out from the NHS about Liverpool hospitals, and the fake modelling SAGE/PHE/the NHS is using to drive their agenda; they also out Simon Stevens for the liar he is by quoting the same fake figures on the BBC.
Thanks, 18 minutes well spent.
Backs up the brave healthcare assistant in Toby’s piece from Risky Treliske* and what I know to be the case at my local main regional hospital.
*locals longterm nickname.
Their podcasts get better every time
I was delighted to see the student revolt against that ridiculous fence. I was starting to despair at the young, having spotted so many of them wearing masks outside with obvious pride. The young couple next door (regularly seen jogging with masks) have now holed themselves up in their flat and only emerge for Deliveroo.
As far as the university is concerned, they made a momentously stupid decision to erect that wall. Many people in positions of power are Dangerous Idiots.
When I elected Boris and the team I thought they would lead the UK towards an exciting future, creating a libertarian version of Singapore.
But they’ve turned out to be Dangerous Idiots too.
A lesson I’ve learned is such broad belief on a politician to deliver some kind of ideological landscape is not advised. PMs, unless a ground up populist one, cannot have the kid of power to do that. He or she is simply a product of a polticial machine which involves horse trading galore. He has to pay the piper.
So don’t ever trust them. At best I vote on the basis of a single stand out issue.
I never trusted BoZo or Corbyn thank God for the SDP I have a political home to go to
I just dont get what motivates young people like your ones next door. They fill me with dread of the future when they are completely in charge. I just dont remember such attitudes being around when I was that age. They are like young foggies that make us oldies look like the rebellious ones. They are so right on and sanctimonious and so proud of their altruism. They dont see the wider picture though…that those attitudes of craven submission are going to wreck the capitalist economy which provides them with their goodies and any idea of a free civilised society.
Agree, it baffles me too. Perhaps because their parents mollycoddled them too much? When I was a kid I could go anywhere, it was pretty safe, and I’d just go home after playing with siblings and friends in the nearby parks and area. I think parental fear may have affected this generation – fear of germs, predators, etc etc. and they just aren’t as tough as we were growing up.
I do think thats very true. I like watching the 1970 film ‘The Railway Children’ as it reminds me of my childhood in the late 1960s….. as I also grew up next to a busy railway west of Manchester. We were very free from quite a young age and just used to have fun with friends all day especially in the summer holidays. No being ferried around in Mum’s taxi…..hardly anyone had a car on the small council estate I grew up on,,,, and no adult supervised ‘sleepovers’. You leaned about risk and personal responsibility in a way children just dont now. Its no surprise they end up fearful adults who do not value freedom as they have never really had it.
I have to say if you didn’t realise i had a go at you in the post above where you were slagging socialists. but on this post i totally agree .I have never been a person to look back with rose tinted spectacles on the past but the truth is this crisis has made me realise just how much freedom we have lost and not just from covid but over the past 50 years . You only have to look at kids today ,they have all the gadgets in the world but they still look so bored and lonely . I hope if and when we do fight our way out of this (and i believe we will ) we don’t just stop and say job done but fight on to make a society for everyone ,where we can feel a sense of belonging and rediscover that feeling of being at home once again .
Yes very much agree on that wat though I was not slagging socialists off at all…..I was one for many years. I was just stating that there is no such thing as ‘socialism’ as a different economic system to ‘capitalism’ which does not descend into the kind of authoritarianism seen in every one of the ‘socialist’ societies seen so far. Its fine to have social democratic reforms within capitalism as in Scandanavia but thats as far as it should ever go. I have no problem with such reforms. Hope that clarifies it wat …….now we can get on with rescuing freedom!
He only does u-turns when he’s pointing in the right direction.
Or rather, Witless and Unbalanced turn him round on his little wheels.
Last lockdown I was pretty much in solitary confinement(apart from my cats) for 10 weeks as my helpers abandoned me.(I’m disabled). This time my cleaning lady/helper has promised to stick by me.She’s a fellow sceptic. Her company and support is much appreciated as is a clean house
After watching the opera Boris Godunov about a wicked Tsar, I’ve decided to henceforth call our PM Boris Badonov!
Plenty of people in my area had fireworks last night- good for them!
Well said. We are indeed living during the Time of Troubles.
There’s a new TV ad doing the rounds. It features Ian Wright schilling for Facebook Portal. In the ad, Wright is at home at Christmas with 2 of his kids and his wife. On top of the TV in the livingroom is a camera which is streaming video to, what I assume to be, two relatives sitting in their livingroom. The website that accompanies this device explains “Start some new Christmas traditions. Even when you’re far apart.” In clear terms, the technocracy are generously and benignly providing us – at a cost – the technology and means to remain apart at Christmas. Graciously the Facebook Portal offering comes in shapes and sizes to meet anyone’s needs, including a lovely little photo frame-sized camera and screen device. Part of the marketing blurb explains that this device will allows us to put on “AR (augmented reality) masks”. There’s that word again. All while allowing us to “worker smarter from home”. The technocracy are enablers of the lockdown. Advocates for social isolation. Proponents for alone-ness while providing the means to make this bearable. “What are you complaining about? You can see granny on the telly! Look, she’s wearing an AR mask, how funny.” Read… Read more »
Christmas will not be done that way.
Period.
I agree,a small 2/3 week break in lockdown and back in we go.On and off until Spring.The extension of furlough confirms it.
Those fuckers have truly lost the plot if they think this will ever be accepted.
This will be over long before Christmas.
It’s fkn finished pal …
Quicker you get used to that idea, the quicker it’ll happen.
I agree. The idea this lockdown is anything like the first is ridiculous .People are already taking no notice and it’s only day 2 . Johnson will have a simply choice after Brexit is finally sorted at the end of December and that is change course or be deposed .No one wants to move before hand as whatever happens over Brexit will be firmly on Johnson’s head and we all know that whatever the outcome there will always be disappointed people,so let him take the can . Johnson knows he’s finished and this is simply the thrashing around of a dying creature, our job now is to keep up the pressure against lockdown in whatever way each of us choose and help to put the sickly beast (Johnson) out of it’s misery. Our next task once he is removed is to make sure no one in power ever even dreams of treating the people of our country in this way again and we must force that message down the throats of any future government
Lockdown 2 isn’t being obeyed anything like as much as the first one was. Any attempt at a Lockdown 3 will be even more ignored.
Are shops and other businesses and meeting places staying open then? It’s one thing people not staying at home, but if the only place to go is work, then haven’t the government still ‘won’?
When he is finished lets hope he gets hunted down for crimes against humanity.
I agree 💯 the mood is turning against Johnson
Not having a telly and not buying newspapers makes me largely immune to this sort of nonsense.
I do get exposed to offensive advertising on YouTube but can click it off after 4 seconds.
Today I was attacked by Boots the chemist trying to show me that their first priority was my ‘safety’ and that of their bemasked staff.
Me too. No unsubscribe option so I emailed back to tell them to unsubscribe me from their shite
Hi Karen, run an ad blocker or even use TOR = no more intrusive ads and much more privacy etc.
Arnie.
Laptops already do watch us. The little camera keeps resetting itself back on. Cover with tape if you don’t want to be watched.
Agree. Send to Toby as well
So tell them to fuck off and go have Christmas.
Get rid of Alexa. Simple. You don’t have to play along.
Yes, wrap it up in shiny plastic, make it look good and the masses will happily give away their privacy and freedoms. I have a friend who worked for NATO (cyber security) and she said she wouldn’t have one of these devices within two miles of her.
They can stick Facebook portal where the sun don’t shine
Fuck that.
I agree Mrs S.
My family and All relatives have already said that Christmas will be the same as normal.
Excellent. These signals are dropped into our view and deserve exactly the kind of vigilance and scrutiny you’ve given it.
Wright is a bankrupt shill and all part of the pantomime, just like his mate lineker and every other collaborator.
Still, the narrative stinks of the long term plan to keep everyone locked in their prison. A jolly jape it is not
Evil BASTARDS
Have I got to give up Google Portaloo too now? Ffs is there no depths these people will plumb?.. 😉
Note the ‘diversity’ in the casting too…
Adverts showing whites only confirm white supremacy apparently. If whites appear this must be in the form of a mixed race family…..someone I know in advertising actually told me this recently.
Doesn’t surprise me – many years ago I did some TV and film acting, and one assistant director told me that the BBC had a rule that in every scene of their dramas there had to be at least one visible ethnic face (however unrealistic).
And when working on Casualty one day, a white director stopped filming because she decided the intensive care nurse in a scene should be black. The poor white extra who had been booked to be that ‘nurse’ (and who was one of the regular background artists) was sent off the set and the agency was called to try and urgently bring in a black ‘nurse’ instead…
Disgusting social engineering. I am sure they do the same the other way round in Nigeria…..not.
Oh how I long to see Whitty and Vallance squirm in front of an inquiry chaired by Lord Sumption, forensically taken apart by a panel consisting of the likes of Heneghan, Gupta and Yeadon. How I long to see that mauling signal the end of their careers, the crushing of their reputations and hopefully provide the foundations for future criminal prosecution. One can only dream.
Their Davos/IMF/WEF/Gavi handles won’t allow that to happen.
It’ll happen. Either at Nuremberg or elsewhere.
See all my comments below. Nothing will happen without popular support.
It’s down to us to create that popular support, one person by one person.
Before they test, vaccinate, and injur us all.
Me too. Unfortunately I suspect they’ll end up in the House of Lords.
If nobody is fired it is a sign that Whitty and Vallence are useful because they produce dodgy data, not despite it.
NEW POLITICAL PARTY dieBasis
https://diebasis-partei.de
theBasis demands with regard to the current corona measures:
That is great news. Pressure and question
Britain needs a system like Germany’s we certainly should stop tolerating our outdated class system We need a written constitution and federal republic
BBC R4 News 7am
Report on Manchester students tearing down fence given second billing each side given a fair hearing.
A fair hearing! In the Beeb? Sure you didn’t dream it?
I am appalled (though not surprised) to read this heart-breaking news this morning. Please can it be mentioned on LS tomorrow? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-54827702 Here are the first few sentences of the article: There was an alarming 20% rise in babies being killed or harmed during the first lockdown, Ofsted’s chief inspector Amanda Spielman has revealed. Sixty four babies were deliberately harmed in England – eight of whom died. Some 40% of the 300 incidents reported involved infants, up a fifth on 2019. Ms Spielman believes a “toxic mix” of isolation, poverty and mental illness caused the March to October spike. Health staff and social workers were hampered by Covid restrictions. And many regular visits could not take place, while others were carried out remotely, using the telephone or video links. When schools were closed in March children’s charities and teachers expressed fears that children at risk would be left even more vulnerable under lockdown. This was part of the reason schools stayed open to vulnerable children. Ms Spielman will tell a conference of local authority leaders on Friday: “Of course, babies can’t tell an adult if there’s a problem. “Often, abuse is only uncovered when there’s a critical injury, or it’s… Read more »
One of my neighbours is a pediatrician and she was saying exactly this back in the summer 😢 Yet more lockdowns ordered.
Boris doesn’t factor in negative impacts on children – as we know from his private life.
Yes, absolutely horrific. And remember that liar Whitty claimed all such negatives would be “on the Covid side” not the Lockdown side under his perverse logic…I say logic but the effer couldn’t even be arsed to explain his reasoning.
Confirmed by a paediatrician from one of London’s largest teaching hospitals I spoke with.
This horrible and another collateral damage as a result of this catastrophic lockdown.
Sadly I don’t think the government, their advisors and the lockdown zealots will care.
It’s all part of the covidhoax plan, the Great Reset Cull.
That’s terrible; sadly there are other appalling consequences for children of all ages. One pretty uncomfortable example I was made aware of are the thousands of children who have dropped out of school and are now the main source of income for unemployed families by working for county lines drug gangs.
The Government needs holding accountable for what they are doing
And this was entirely predictable. Indeed, predicted.
I’m no Biden fan but Trump is not a force for good, despite his covid scepticism.
Commentator yesterday arguing that the US results actually the best combination for the Republicans. Control of the House, majority on the Supreme Court, only a narrow defeat by Trump who did far better than predicted, a democratic candidate who could barely beat him, but unpredictable and often destructive/damaging Trump out of the White House.
I’m not a fan of Biden either but I feel Trump is a bad man utterly devoid of morality and empathy.
Just like the rest of them then lol
I’d say the same about our leading politicians.
Britain cannot pass judgement on other countries when what We have lumbered ourself with such a dickhead like BoZo
He’s one of the few presidents that hasn’t started a war
And has actually done the opposite, brokering peace!
I used to think that until I started questioning from where I formed this opinion – the mainstream media. So I started following him myself, and the true picture is very different to that which we are told by the media. Yes, he’s arrogant, and I wouldn’t have him round for dinner, but he’s got to have a huge ego not to be sunk by all the vitriol and oppobrium heaped upon him from every quarter. My eyes have been opened.
We do not control the house. We control the Senate. And I half agree… If Biden really won, it wouldn’t be the end of the world. But if the left can pull off massive fraud, that is extremely dangerous… So it is absolutely necessary that this be punished, and hard, if true.
I am Trump curious, I strangely admire some aspects of his character – his perseverance, his independence and his humour – but stoking a “stab in the back” narrative is totally despicable, they never end well. I know that 100 million postal votes makes a mockery of an election, it is impossible to know if it is fair or not, but have some humility, get the country through it without stoking up raging gangs.
I suppose there’s an argument to be made about surrendering to injustice in order to avoid disorder, but it’s clear Trump and many around him are not the types to make that choice.
The people opposed to him, though, will not stop pushing until they are effectively resisted, though, so perhaps it’s more a case of having it out now versus appeasement?
There must be a better system of deciding the president of the most powerful country in the world than they currently have. Just look at the last 2 elections – Rock or Hard Place both times.
So, how many wars has damaging Trump started – as opposed to Creepy Joe?
Does Toby, or anybody else, keep a definitive list of those people in the public sphere who have stood up and been counted? The list, if you will, of those who you would want beside you in the trenches? The wheat, sorted from the chaff? I’ll start:
Peter Hitchens
Van Morrison
Neil Oliver (the Scottish historian who does ‘Coast’)
Richard Madeley
David Hockney (wrote a letter to the Torygraph right at the start of all of this)
Allison Pearson
Liam Halligan
Georgio Agamben
Bernard-Henri Levy
Mike Yeadon
James Delingpole
Devina McCall (I think)
Who else?
Good morning David
OffGuardian (along with P Hitchens) called it right from the start. So did Charlotte Gracias. Neil Clark followed suit in the early spring after initially backing the wrong horse. Medialens still continue to avoid the reality in front of their eyes – a real kick in the gut for many people, myself included.
Appreciate you may be looking for more well-known voices though!
Best regards
Simon
Anthony Narula
Right Said Fred
Denise Welch
Kirstie Allsopp
Will Carling
And she expresses herself in a calm and knowledgeable way.
Noel Gallagher
I think Matt le Tissier is a skeptic
Yes, and Peter Ebdon
The Corrs
Ian Brown
The Gallagher brothers
Lord Sumption
Carol McGiffin, Denise Welch, Will Carling, Van Morrison,
Peter ebdon
Vernon Coleman
Right said fred
Denise Welch, Kirsty Allsopp
Anna Brees
Me!
Also Mike Levitt and, most importantly of all:
ANDERS TEGGART
Simon Dolan
Richie Allen. His radio show is well worth a listen and he’s had many fellow sceptics on.
Richie is pisht off with the endless coronabollax, nearly chucked it in. but is soldiering on with a bit less etc.. for sanity!
“It was meant to protect students from non university visitors”
The Russians said something similar after erecting the Berlin Wall! What’s next, watch towers and guns? Students can learn from history now and start digging the tunnels.
Ha ha so after hundreds of years, students now suddenly needs protection from visitors….
You’re right. The DDR government’s official name for it was the “anti-fascist protection wall” https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifaschistischer_Schutzwall
Yeah that’s right, she’s full of shit and not to be trusted.
The BBC reports that:
“Denmark will cull all its mink – as many as 17 million – after a mutated form of coronavirus that can spread to humans was found on mink farms.
“But cases are spreading fast in Denmark – 207 mink farms in Jutland are affected – and at least five cases of the new virus strain were found. Twelve people had become infected, the authorities said.
“a government report […] said the mutated virus had been found to weaken the body’s ability to form antibodies, potentially making the current vaccines under development for Covid-19 ineffective.”
It is becoming increasingly difficult to process what is happening.
This doesn’t really make any sense – is this a mutated form of SARS-CoV-2 which has somehow gone from humans to mink and back again, or an entirely new coronavirus? Wtf is going on?
New angle to start more fear porn
I totally agree, it’s just fearmongering rubbish which is why it makes absolutely no sense.
Like everything since March then really
I cannot agree with the comments about this. This new development can in the end be advantageous for lockdown sceptics and covid vaccine sceptics. Posted several links yesterday which outline this. The C-19 infection spread to minks and in them there was a mutation of the virus which then was transmitted back to humans. There was no indication of more severe illness amongst the 12 persons so far affected in Jutland. The concern is that antibodies to the spike protein had been changed which could indicate that the current vaccines could already be useless if this strain spreads.This is bad news for Big Pharma if it happens. The Danish government’s now culling of 17 million minks and sending special team to track and trace for the infected will not stop any spread as shown before as contact tracing is useless. The ease which human-animal-human infection occurs with C-19 just shows that it is impossible to stop the virus. It is going to be endemic with us like our other coronaviruses. We want the house of cards (the whole idiotic pandemic response) to fall and this might help it.
I’ll bet they wanted to get rid of minks anyway. Are they considered a pest there?
The sustainable world group are all mad, they will tear down the world to achieve the world they think they want, unless they are stopped.
Covid is a massive cover for the insane green agenda,which itself was a scam to enslave us all.
Yes but like the screaming spoilt children they are it won’t be what they wanted & so the cycle will endlessly repeat with many, many, deaths.
What’s not to like?
Spread of mutated coronavirus in Danish mink ‘hits all the scary buttons,’ but fears may be overblown
Interesting especially as there is currently no proof that Covid-19 exists (the virus has not been ‘spliced’). Eagerly await proof of exactly what it is.
It’s flu and pneumonia with a groovy new Halloween name…
Just did a quick domain check… fearpornhub.com is taken. Bummer, could have been a moneymaker
If a paw paw and a banana can test positive for Covid 19, I’m sure a mink can
How long before there are demands for the culling of dogs and cats? Absolutely nothing would surprise me anymore.
My faith in the young people of Manchester has been totally restored. Surely it’s time that we all started to tear down the fences this idiot Government have erected around our lives. Hopefully our future leaders will be drawn from groups like we’ve seen tearing down the fence.
Excellent, any more of this nonsense, I would suggest you all go to your family homes refuse to pay fees and put claims in for misrepresentation. The prospectus did not promise you all this bull—-.
Given the coverage given in the MSM today can’t see Lockdown 2 lasting. If Boris and government won’t end, the public will tear down the barriers. Three cheers and more for the students in Manchester and the protests in London last night. Hopefully we will see more in the coming days.
Delighted to see the students finally taking some action and showing their frustration.
This nonsense cannot go on much longer covid19 I believe was downgraded in March at the height of this, well done to the Students in Manchester if there is going to be any fightback at this useless Government and opposition Labor party get the Young on side https://www.saveourrights.uk
As an alumni of Manchester University well done to the students for fighting back and shame on Dame Nancy Rothwell for her weasel words. They never cared about students’ welfare and its time for them to understand that students also need emotional and psychological support from them too. They’re simply no cash cows.
The time has come for the Conservative party to remove Johnson as leader get rid of Hancock also, ditch Witty vallance Ferguson and stupid SAGE at the same time, for the love of God repeal the covid19 act 2020
The time to ensure a decent future was the 2010 general election. People did not grasp the opportunity and we are consequently set on a course that is unalterable.
He should but like since March they will avoid admitting they’re wrong unfortunately.