Is the Pfizer Vaccine a Breakthrough?

Much relief could be heard yesterday with the announcement from Pfizer that its vaccine is “more than 90% effective in preventing COVID-19”. The press release explains: “The case split between vaccinated individuals and those who received the placebo indicates a vaccine efficacy rate above 90%, at seven days after the second dose.”
But is it all it seems?
Ross Clark in the Spectator sounds a note of caution.
The Pfizer/BioNTech trial began in July, and has involved 43,538 volunteers, half of whom were given the vaccine and half of whom received a placebo. The committee issued its report when 94 of those participants had developed COVID-19 with at least one symptom. What we don’t yet know is how many of the 94 who were infected had been given the vaccine and how many were given the placebo – a vaccine can either stop you getting a virus or can mitigate the symptoms once you have it. Nor do we know how long the effect of this vaccine will last. All we know so far is that the vaccine was found to be effective 28 days after the second of the two doses.
Nor do we yet have much information on possible side-effects among the group given the vaccine. Earlier stages of the trial revealed some side-effects such as fatigue, headache and chills, but no information has yet been released on how widespread these effects were in the larger group. The fact that the trial is still ongoing, and has not been halted as the Oxford/Astra Zeneca trial briefly was in the summer, suggests that no serious illness has been traced to the vaccine.
Although Ross says in the Telegraph that an effective vaccine might be enough to save Boris’s premiership.
How soon will it be available if approved? Ross in the Spectator again:
Ben Osborn, Pfizer’s managing director in the UK said in July that there were 40 million doses sitting in a Belgian warehouse ready to be sent to Britain. That would be enough to treat 20 million people, given that the vaccine requires two doses. Last week, Paul Duffy, Vice President of Pfizer Global Supply, said that there is “very minimal” chance of the vaccine being distributed this year, even if it is approved this month. Distribution is more likely in the first half of next year, he said.
No 10 gave it a cautious welcome.
Speaking this lunchtime, the Prime Minister’s spokesman called the results “promising” but warned “there are no guarantees”. With limited information available in terms of the full results from the trial so far, they went on to say: “We will know if the vaccine is both safe and effective once the safety data is published, it’s only then that licensing authorities can consider it.”
Barry Norris of Argonaut Capital Partners – an expert on the biotech sector – told Lockdown Sceptics:
As we had expected, the Pfizer/BioNTech trial delivered a positive efficacy result.
There were two surprising elements: The timing of the announcement and the claim of 90% efficacy.
There are 44,000 people in the trial with half in the placebo. They were supposed to read out after just 32 cases in total. It was thought that the trial hadn’t yet read out because they hadn’t yet had enough infections. The trial actually read out after 94 cases, so they delayed it on purpose apparently as a result of “discussions with the FDA”. This smells like they didn’t want to announce it pre-Presidential election in case the ‘good news’ helped the incumbent. Trump must be fuming.
They claim 90% efficacy. What in practice does that mean? When they say efficacy they don’t give us the exact numbers but you should assume around 85 out of the 94 symptomatic cases were in the control group that received the placebo and just nine in the treatment group which received the vaccine. They simply measured symptomatic infection: are you a symptomatic sufferer of COVID-19 or not? They didn’t measure severity. Nearly all the volunteers in the trials are also all healthy adults, under 55 years old. There is no data for the old and already sick, although they will say at 90% efficacy in healthy adults it has a decent chance of working on them too.
It is important to note that the trial does not measure the vaccine’s ability to stop virus transmission between humans which is the supposed rationale for lockdown. The manufacturers and their cheerleaders will say it’s still a lockdown-buster because its failure to interrupt transmission doesn’t matter if the virus doesn’t develop into the disease. But that depends on whether it works for the vulnerable which we don’t know yet.
In terms of timing, they are suggesting mass vaccinations in time for the 2021/2022 coronavirus season which suggests at least another six months of virus suppression policies, including lockdowns.
One final consideration: the Pfizer vaccine won’t work against the ‘mink virus’ or plenty of other strains.
But let’s not be too churlish. If it really is 90% effective, protects the weak as well as the strong, has no major side effects and turns out to be as effective against other strains – all big ifs – it may help to calm everybody down. As Charles Mackay said in Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds, “Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.”
Stop Press: According to the Times, BioNTech founders Ozlem Tureci and Ugur Sahin, a German-Turkish couple, may see their personal fortune reach £3 billion.
Stop Press 2: Sarah Knapton in the Telegraph reports there are fears that, even if an effective vaccine becomes available, many people will refuse it because they feel it has been rushed out in just a few months. The Royal Society is so concerned about uptake that it is calling for anti-vaxxers to be prosecuted if they spread misinformation about the dangers.
More on the Leaked NHS Slide Deck

I asked my doctor friend to take a look at the NHS England slide deck that was leaked to me yesterday. He found the smoking gun that I missed: the overall impression it gives is that the NHS is coping perfectly well with the ‘second wave’, has considerable spare capacity and isn’t anywhere close to being overwhelmed. Why is that significant? Because it was presented to NHS managers on November 2nd, so could have been shown to MPs before the Lockdown 2.0 vote on November 4th. But instead MPs were presented with a completely different data set that gave the opposite impression. In other words, the Government and its scientific advisors knew the NHS was coping perfectly well with rising Covid infections and deliberately misled MPs.
Yesterday Toby wrote an article referring to a leaked set of briefing slides presented to NHS senior managers on November 2nd.
The deck is full of data up to November 1st in relation to the overall activity and capacity within NHS regions. Toby focused yesterday on the extremely high level of absence by NHS staff in the North of England (37%) as a result of a combination of positive Covid tests and being forced to self-isolate due to a Test and Trace contact or having to look after a child sent home from school. For comparison, the normal NHS staff absence rate is approximately 3%.
I have now had a look through the remainder of the information.
The first thing that jumps out is that, with the exception of the North West and North East, the rest of the NHS looked fine as of November 1st – nowhere near capacity and not stressed for this time of year. I have split the information up into separate headings for ease of comprehension.
ICU Capacity:
The North West and North East had needed to reduce the provision of elective surgery by about 50% to manage a Covid surge, but there were still 146 available ICU beds in the North West on November 1st with total ICU bed occupancy running at 78%. A similar picture was reported across the country, with 290 vacant ICU beds in London, 278 vacant in the South East and 296 beds available in the Midlands. So essentially sufficient spare ICU beds to cope with a doubling of Covid critical care numbers while still running routine services in most regions (assuming sufficient staff availability).
Tellingly, the oxygen demands from trusts across England was slightly lower than normal pre-Covid levels – 276 MT compared with 281 MT pre-Covid. For comparison, at the height of the spring oxygen utilisation by Trusts peaked at 431 MT. This is a good surrogate marker of respiratory disease intensity as patients on CPAP masks and mechanical ventilation consume a lot of oxygen.
Total inpatient burden:
The total Covid positive inpatients in England were reported as 8,806 (remember this does not necessarily mean all these patients are suffering from Covid – just that they have tested positive). There were approximately 130-140,000 inpatient beds in Hospitals in England – 6.5% Covid positive bed occupancy across the whole NHS, peaking at 12% in the North.
COVID infections in the community:
The R rate was estimated at 1.1-1.3. The general graph trends were flat lining.
Nightingale Hospitals:
Manchester set to re-open for convalescent patients. Other Northern Nightingales on standby. Kit and equipment fully stocked.
Regional reports:
All regional authorities reported that they were managing with no critical capacity problems anticipated in the coming 72 hrs. The North West and North East were the worst affected, but in both regions, Covid stress on beds and ICU occupancy had fallen in the previous 72 hrs. There were plenty of spare beds available. London region remarked that “capacity remains robust” and they were looking at releasing hospital staff to participate in community vaccination programmes. The remaining regions reported no significant risks or capacity problems with bed occupancy rates. We have been told since the middle of September that London was “two weeks behind the North West” and the second wave would arrive soon – no convincing sign of it on November 1st.
Staff absences:
As Toby reported yesterday, staff absences seemed to be the critical issue in the North West, North East and the Midlands and are flagged up as risks by regional reporting. It isn’t clear from these slides if all of absentees had actually had a positive Covid test or if they were shielding for another reason. It is interesting that staff absence in the South East was much lower – Hampshire Hospitals reported 1% Covid positive tests among their staff. Absence rates in London peaked at about 18% in the Spring surge and are currently running at approximately 8%, compared to 37% in the North East. How might we explain these discrepancies?
The North of England has recently been experiencing a wave of Covid similar to that which hit London in the spring. I know from a separate source that Covid antibody titres measured in hospital staff in the North West have doubled in the last couple of months (suggesting that a large number of staff have been exposed to the virus, even if they remained asymptomatic).
Further, Test and Trace protocols, which were not active in the spring, now force staff to isolate if they have come into contact with a Covid patient – and there are a lot of those in hospitals. It is possible that some of the difference is a testing artefact – i.e., there might be a lower rate of false positives in Hampshire due to more rigorous laboratory protocols than in the North of England. But if 37% of nurses in the North of England really did have COVID-19 on November 1st then a measurable number of them should by now be ill enough to be admitted to hospital for a few days and noticed in the figures. Anecdotally, I have been informed that a large number of those absences are not due to staff directly testing positive, but as a result of Test and Trace contact tracing – essentially the law of unintended consequences.
I don’t know why these slides were leaked. My guess is that the whistleblower was disturbed by the stark contrast between the alarming public briefings last week and the reassuring information provided to NHS professionals at the same time.
I imagine senior advisors to the Government will argue that if calamity strikes, it would be too late to implement lockdown constraints as it takes two weeks for societal interventions to take effect. So better safe than sorry. But if we accept that argument, then the country is destined to be incarcerated indefinitely for fear of the sky falling in.
In any event, there was clearly a lot of spare capacity still in the system as of November 1st – the vast majority of the NHS was still doing a full schedule of elective activity and we still had spare ICU beds available – a lot more than usual at this time of year.
I was concerned to read in the Sunday Times that Chris Hopson, the Chief executive of NHS Providers, had said: “You can’t stop someone having a heart attack or a stroke… but you can control the volume of COVID-19 patients by using lockdowns to reduce the infection rate… the NHS will certainly be arguing that the Government should be very cautious about coming out of lockdown.”
Does this mean that the NHS now regards societal lockdowns as a legitimate routine medical intervention? Perhaps to be deployed whenever it finds itself incapable of meeting performance targets? Mr Hopson must have missed the WHO guidance about lockdowns being an emergency measure of last resort.
I wonder if those slides were shown to Conservative MPs before last week’s vote? Or even to the Prime Minister? If they had been, would we now be in Lockdown 2.0?
My reading of the information on the slide deck is that as of November 1st the NHS at shop floor level was doing a good job of handling a difficult situation. There was no cause for panic and that the tiered approach seemed to be working pretty well. We don’t know what has happened in the last week of course – maybe things have taken a dramatic turn for the worse – or for the better. With luck, someone will eventually let us know.
Finally, I was greatly encouraged to read the excellent interview with Professor Whitty in the British Medical Journal this week. He makes a good case for his position and states: “I’m very much in favour of transparency in all areas. I do believe that transparency, wherever possible is a good thing.” He goes on to explain that the difficult decisions that policy makers are faced with are all about balance. I found his commentary very reassuring.
I’m hoping that we can now look forward to a balanced public debate on the health downsides of lockdowns versus their benefits and the wider societal implications of the compulsory curtailment of civil rights by unconstrained executive fiat. Perhaps the NHS will be so kind as to include Lockdown Sceptics on the distribution list for the next slide deck so Toby and Will can make the information available to the public, consistent with the spirit of open and transparent governance.
How Will Students Get Home For Christmas?

Are students going to be confined in their halls of residence over Christmas – particularly if the second lockdown hasn’t been lifted by then? Hopefully not, reports the Telegraph. Camilla Turner, the paper’s Education Editor, reveals secret Government plans to roll out mass testing at universities.
The Prime Minister said on Monday that official guidance will shortly be issued on how universities should manage the mass movement of students at the end of term in a way that does not risk spreading the virus around the country.
The Telegraph can reveal that the Government’s strategy involves setting up large scale asymptomatic testing programmes at universities so that students with a negative test result can safely travel home.
Michelle Donelan, the universities minister, has written to Vice-Chancellors asking whether they would be prepared to take part in the scheme.
University leaders have been told that they need to register their interest in the scheme and place their order for testing kits by the end of this week. They would then have until the end of the month to prepare test sites and get them ready for operation.
The “pre-end-of-term testing” would take place between November 30 and December 6, according to a timeline prepared by NHS Test and Trace and sent out to Vice-Chancellors.
University leaders were told that one of the key objectives is to “test asymptomatic students before the end of this term” so that they can make “informed decisions regarding their return home for Christmas, minimising the risk of spreading the virus to vulnerable people at their destination”.
The plans are understood to have been warmly received by Vice-Chancellors, who previously rejected proposals from ministers that would see them force students to self-isolate for a fortnight before the end of term.
Reading this, I couldn’t help wondering what would become of those students who test positive. Will they be forced to remain in their cubicles in largely empty buildings while the rest of the country celebrates?
Worth reading in full.
Professor Tim Spector: “Infections Falling”
Tim Spector, Professor of Genetic Epidemiology at King’s College London and Chief Researcher for the Covid Symptom Study, appeared on Julia Hartley Brewer’s talkRADIO show yesterday morning to explain why he thinks cases are beginning to decline, the R value across the country is 1 and in some parts of the country below 1 and why he’d bet money on the daily death totals starting to fall shortly.
Cummings Clashes With Whitty

The Covid self-isolation period is expected to be cut from two weeks to 10 days after a row involving Prof Chris Whitty and Dominic Cummings, who had been pushing for a more drastic change, according to the Guardian.
The reduced quarantine time is to be made possible by increasing the use of rapid tests – for which the UK Government has paid more than £500m, despite the fact that some are not designed to test people without symptoms.
It comes amid growing concerns about compliance, with only 11% of people abiding fully by the current two-week self-isolation rule, according to research by King’s College London in September.
Under the new proposals, people are expected to be allowed to stop self-isolating on the 10th day after coming into contact with an infected person, following a negative test, in the hope this will improve compliance. But if they test positive on that date, they will be asked to continue self-isolating for a further eight days.
The planned change is a compromise hammered out at No 10 after Whitty, England’s Chief Medical Officer, rejected proposals instigated by Cummings, the prime minister’s most senior aide, for a more dramatic cut in the quarantine period, according to a source with knowledge of the discussions. Downing Street did not deny the claims.
According to the source, Whitty discovered on Tuesday last week that a press release had been drafted to use the rapid tests to halve self-isolation to seven days, with the eventual goal of scrapping the self-isolation period entirely by offering tests to people as soon as they are notified of a contact with an infected person.
Whitty is said to have been implacably opposed on public health grounds, arguing that the incubation period for the virus was too long to allow immediate testing and the rapid tests would fail to detect every infected person.
The proposal to test after eight days, with permission to leave the house on the 10th day, was “cooked up” as a compromise, to placate Cummings, the source said.
Worth reading in full.
Viva L’Espagna

A reader thinks he’s found a loophole in the new regulations that enables him to make unlimited trips to Spain.
I thought you might be interested in my long weekend in Spain. I believe I may have exploited a loophole in the legislation…
I travelled to Spain on Friday (during lockdown 2.0) via Liverpool Airport. I was able to fly with no questions asked whatsoever. Had I been asked why I was travelling, my answer would have been that I was visiting Spain to view a property which is for sale. This seems to be allowed under Part 2 of the Coronavirus restrictions, which say you can leave your house to view a property you’re interested in purchasing. There doesn’t seem to be anything saying that the property has to be in the UK.
It seems to be widely understood that you can only fly abroad for work purposes, but I can’t see anything in the rules which explicitly says this. Either way, my work could be as a prospective Spanish property developer!
The 14-day isolation period is obviously restrictive when I return, but there is an exception (section 9) which allows me to leave the house during the isolation period to travel out of England. So I plan to isolate until Friday and then go back to Spain to view another property over the weekend :-).
I may be wrong about the above. I’m no legal expert, but it certainly seems worth giving it a go to escape the madness and have a few beers and nice lunches on the beaches in Spain.
Stop Press: Lottie Gross in the Telegraph says there’s nothing to stop people flying abroad at Heathrow – no one asked her if she was travelling for “business reasons” when she headed off to Gibraltar. As far as she can tell, there’s no enforcement of the rules whatsoever.
A Legal Caveat
A lawyer has sent me some words of caution about flouting the lockdown rules. Best not to be too cavalier about it, he says, or take it for granted that the rules are unenforceable in the courts.
This is the second day where the daily update has given the impression that the current lockdown rules (The Health Protection (Coronavirus, Restrictions) (England) (No. 4) Regulations) are unenforceable in some way or another.
While the SI is ambiguous in parts and while I am sure the CPS are not particularly keen to use it to prosecute, I think one should be careful about giving readers the impression that any excuse for breaking the regs would be legally acceptable.
As with any law, tantalising loopholes appear due to the way the various parts of the statute are structured. Will and I have had exchanges about the feasibility of communal worship where it forms part of a broadcast service and I have been asked separately about whether there is a way to keep a stables open for private lessons. In both cases one can stretch to finding a way to make it ‘legal’, but in both cases I am quite sure that the intention of the law is not to allow it. Courts are supposed to interpret statute to give effect to the intention of Parliament, so intention of law can matter where the words are ambiguous.
Notwithstanding that loopholes can be found, the basic structure of the SI is that no person can be outside the place they are living without reasonable excuse. It’s true that this is not defined as such, but we are told that:
“the circumstances in which a person has a reasonable excuse include where one of the exceptions set out in regulation 6 applies”
Reg 6 goes on to list the various exceptions, many of which are quite wide, and some of which are quite narrow. We aren’t told if “include” means that the list of exceptions in reg 6 is comprehensive or if there could be other reasonable excuses. If the list is comprehensive (as I suspect is the intention) then other ‘reasonable’ excuses would not give one legal permission to depart from one’s house.
Assuming the list is not comprehensive, we also aren’t told if the “reasonable excuse” is subjective or objective. An objective standard of “reasonableness” would tend to be higher/less permissive than a subjective one, although not always.
So while I agree that there’s room to challenge lots of the restrictions, and I personally would like to see people doing so, people have to appreciate that they might end up losing the argument if it gets as far as court.
Thanks as always for the hard and frankly amazing work.
NCIS: New Orleans: Pro-Masking Propaganda

A reader is unimpressed by the new season of NCIS: New Orleans.
Just watched the first episode of the new season of NCIS: New Orleans and a more blatant message that COVID-19 is the new plague couldn’t be put forward. Within the first two minutes the lead character had masked up in the street despite there being no one else around. Within five minutes he was quoting Boris’s “hands face space” – and this is an American show! Numerous times mask-wearing was portrayed as if it was compulsory with nearly every character wearing one. Is this what we’re up against now, television shows being used to promote how dangerous this virus is without any question? No mention of how unproven any of the science or data behind mask wearing is.
Liverpool Council Officer’s Rude Email

Ros Maidment, a retired paediatrician and member of UsForThem, emailed Steve Reddy, Liverpool Council’s Director of Children’s Services, on Sunday to express her concern about a number of letters which had gone out to parents on Friday from Liverpool schools, including primaries, informing them that their kids were going to be given a rapid Covid test on Monday. Like the Broadgreen International School, these schools don’t appear to grasp that informed consent is required before a school can carry out a medical procedure on a child – which means the parent has to opt in. The school cannot take a failure to opt out as tantamount to consent. In her email to Mr Reddy, Ros politely called this a “misunderstanding”.
“Sorry if this sounds confrontational but it really is a matter of urgency, given the testing in schools is due to start tomorrow,” she wrote.
This was the reply she received from Mr Reddy:
Dear Ros,
The only “misunderstanding” would be you thinking we are taking any notice of your emails.
You have apologised in your emails for sounding confrontational, so let me do the same.
Tomorrow morning I will request the council ICT team to put a block on so we won’t receive them anymore, it’s not great use of our time, we’ve got work to do.
Take care, stay safe and well.
Best wishes,
Steve
What a charmer!
Stop Press: Almost as rude has been the response of various professors of public health at Liverpool University involved in the mass testing programme to the queries of Allyson Pollock, Professor of Public Health at Newcastle University, who has some well-founded reservations about the £100 billion + “Moonshot”. You can read Allyson’s exchanges with the tetchy boffins on her website.
Stop Press: Read this excellent letter in the BMJ by Angela E. Raffle, a distinguished public health consultant, about the risks of rolling out a mass screening programme without adequate preparation.
Christmas Shop in Ipswich Stays Open by Selling Toilet Paper

An enterprising shop manager in Ipswich has managed to get around lockdown restrictions and remain open by adding some “essential” items to his shop’s shelves. Neighbouring traders, who’ve slavishly complied with the guidance, are incandescent. The East Anglian Daily Times has more.
“Furious” traders have complained that a temporary Christmas shop is staying open in Ipswich during lockdown – despite its owners saying they are selling essential items.
All non-essential stores have been ordered to close as part of the second national shutdown, which began last week.
However, certain stores selling essential items – such as food – are allowed to remain open.
The store in Tavern Street predominantly sells Christmas cards, wrapping paper and toys and gadgets – but also has a small stock of canned goods, toilet roll and cleaning items.
According to the shop’s manager, this allows them to stay open as an essential store.
The manager said: “We took the shop on in August, we’ve got a contract with the landlord that we can sell essential goods.
“We are selling essential items, so we are no different to other shops in Ipswich like B&M or Wilkos.
“If you go into those shops, they have got a load of Christmas stuff as well.
“We have got paperwork from the landlord from when we got it and we can sell essential goods, Christmas, novelty and gadgets.
“We’ve got food, disinfectants and PPE, so no different to Wilkos or B&M.”
Staff from Ipswich Borough Council visited the shop on Monday, November 9th but are yet to make a decision on the store’s future.
The shop’s manager is hereby crowned Sceptic of the Week.
London Calling

In this week’s episode of London Calling, James Delingpole and I talk about vaccines, Trump’s cold dead hands, Biden’s pro-mask fanaticism and my hunt for a new helper on Lockdown Sceptics (see job ad below). The thing James is riding in the above picture is supposed to be an opinion poll (or something) because, according to James, Trump identified him as “Britain’s best pollster” in a Tweet on Sunday afternoon, even though James isn’t a pollster. Seems like wishful thinking to me. Listen to the podcast here and subscribe on iTunes here.
Stop Press: My friend Michael Wolff has written an insightful piece about Trump and what’s likely to be going through his mind, as well as that of his family and closest advisors, for the Daily Mail. Michael’s written two books about the Trump Presidency that are flat-out hilarious. Highly recommended.
Thank the MPs Who Voted Against Lockdown 2.0
A reader has provided a helpful list of all 39 MPs who voted against the second lockdown and their email addresses so you can write to thank them.
Adam Afriyie – adam.afriyie.mp@parliament.uk
Peter Bone – bonep@parliament.uk
Sir Graham Brady – altsale@parliament.uk
Steve Brine – steve.brine.mp@parliament.uk
Christopher Chope – chopec@parliament.uk
Philip Davies – daviesp@parliament.uk
Jonathan Djanogly – jonathan.djanogly.mp@parliament.uk
Jackie Doyle-Price – Jackie.doyleprice.mp@parliament.uk
Richard Drax – Richard.drax.mp@parliament.uk
Sir Iain Duncan Smith – iain.duncansmith@parliament.uk
Marcus Fysh – marcus.fysh.mp@parliament.uk
Chris Green – chris.green.mp@parliament.uk
James Grundy – james.grundy.mp@parliament.uk
Mark Harper – mark.harper.mp@parliament.uk
Gordon Henderson – gordon.henderson.mp@parliament.uk
David Jones – katharine.huggins@parliament.uk
Tim Loughton – loughtont@parliament.uk
Craig Mackinlay – craig.mackinlay.mp@parliament.uk
Stephen Mcpartland – Stephen@stephenmcpartland.co.uk
Esther Mcvey – esther.mcvey.mp@parliament.uk
Huw Merriman – huw.merriman.mp@parliament.uk
Anne Marie Morris – annemarie.morris.mp@parliament.uk
Sir Mike Penning – mike.penning.mp@parliament.uk
John Redwood – john.redwood.mp@parliament.uk
Andrew Rosindell – andrew.rosindell.mp@parliament.uk
Henry Smith – henry.smith.mp@parliament.uk
Sir Desmond Swayne – swayned@parliament.uk
Sir Charles Walker – charles.walker.mp@parliament.uk
Craig Whittaker – craig.whittaker.mp@parliament.uk
William Wragg – william@williamwragg.org.uk
Julian Lewis – julian.lewis@parliament.uk
Paul Girvan – paul.girvan.mp@parliament.uk
Carla Lockhart – carla.lockhart.mp@parliament.uk
Ian Paisley – ian.paisley.mp@parliament.uk
Sammy Wilson – barronj@parliament.uk
Sir Robert Syms – symsmp.office@parliament.uk
Derek Thomas – derek.thomas.mp@parliament.uk
Phillip Hollobone – philip.hollobone.mp@parliament.uk
Steve Baker – steve.baker.mp@parliament.uk
Postcard From Sicily

We’ve received a postcard from a reader who’d just got back from Sicily with his wife. Sounds alright – provided you ignore the pointless red tape while travelling. Here’s an extract:
Masks stayed on, for two hours of waiting at the terminal and for the three hours’ duration of the flight. It was the first time I had been obliged to wear a mask for this length of time. The psychological effect is disturbing. It makes you feel cut off, hampered in your ability to make yourself heard, disempowered. And of course it is more difficult to hear what other people are saying to you – especially in a foreign language. Given that the WHO did not advise mask-wearing for months, and only grudgingly conceded that masks might be a good thing (while pointing out that there was no scientific evidence for it), one can only wonder whether this sense of disempowerment is precisely the effect that governments wish to achieve. My own mask has a printed text on it: MASKS ARE DEHUMANISING, DEGRADING AND INEFFECTIVE.
Worth reading in full.
Round-Up
- “As the case for lockdown crumbles, No 10 doesn’t seem to grasp the damage it has done” – Andrew Lilico in the Telegraph regrets that the Government lacks the stomach for the impact assessment the country so urgently needs
- “Does lockdown prevent covid deaths?” – Sebastian Rushworth MD discusses the Lancet study that seems to show lockdowns have little impact on Covid mortality
- “SAGE conflicts of interest” – Dr Zoe Harcombe PhD discusses the shortcomings of SAGE, including the fact that many of its members have a vested interest in seeing vaccines being rolled out
- “Pupils forget how to spell after months out of school” – School and nursery closures have led to children regressing in basic learning and social skills, with some toddlers back in nappies and primary school pupils forgetting how to spell, Ofsted has warned.
- “Hope of quarantine-free travel after city-wide trial, says Shapps” – According to the Times, the rapid testing being trialed in Liverpool could be used to cut quarantine times in half
- “Biden urges caution despite worldwide excitement at Pfizer vaccine” – As the world celebrated Pfizer’s breakthrough, Biden unveiled his plans for mandatory outdoor masking in every state
- “Free at last! Welsh revellers hit the town” – Welsh party-goers went out for the first time in 17 days last night to celebrate the end of the ‘fire break’ lockdown
- “Oxford’s coronavirus vaccine results could be available within weeks” – Sarah Knapton in the Telegraph says the Oxford team may be ready to release results of its trials soon
- “UK vaccine taskforce chief Kate Bingham expected to quit” – According to the Guardian, the beleaguered Vaccine Taskforce Chief is about to resign after a succession of scandals
- “Peter Hitchens: ‘In 1776 America declared independence and they are jolly well entitled to it’” – Peter Hitchens on his regular slot with Mike Graham on talkRADIO
- “‘Boris Johnson subcontracted to Whitty and Vallance’” – David Mellor fleshes out his thesis in the Mail on Sunday with Dan Wootton
- “‘Lockdowns don’t work’ Former Head of Diseases, Public Health Wales Dr Roland Salmon” – Anna Brees interviews Dr Roland Salmon, who has little time for lockdowns
- “The Covid Cult” – Another talk from Thomas E. Woods Jr. Scathing
- “Call to give Scottish care home residents vitamin D” – The average care home resident in Scotland has less vitamin D than is required for normal bodily functioning, according to the Times
- “Doctors raise questions over Stormont restrictions policy” – A group of doctors in Northern Ireland have raised questions over Stormont Covid restrictions and warned that policies are being formulated on the back of modelling that has “repeatedly been proven to be incorrect”
- “Patients pay an unforgivable price for ‘saving the NHS’” – Kate Andrews in the Telegraph says the NHS has started cancelling surgeries for serious conditions again
- “If the models were wrong, why are we in lockdown?” – Allison Pearson and Liam Halligan ask the obvious question on their Planet Normal podcast
- “Sweden’s ‘Dry Tinder’ Accounts for Many COVID-19-deaths” – Jonas Harvey on the the AIER blog says the reason Sweden had a higher Covid death toll than neighbouring countries is because it had two mild flu seasons on the trot, meaning many vulnerable souls who normally would have died of the flu survived to April 2020 and, then, sadly died from COVID-19 instead
- The Zero Covid Campaign – A group of hard leftists and militant trade unionists have launched the “Zero Covid” campaign, arguing for even stricter, more draconian lockdowns until the virus has been completely eliminated – which, now that it’s endemic, is impossible, obviously. Given that it’s the most disadvantaged who suffer during lockdowns, and their’s will go on forever, the Left’s ongoing support for this bonkers strategy is a head-scratcher
- “High prevalence of pre-existing serological cross-reactivity against SARS-CoV-2 in sub-Sahara Africa” – Important new paper in the International Journal of Infectious Diseases showing that exposure to other coronaviruses may induce cross-reactive antibodies against SARS-CoV-2 in sub-Sahara Africa
Theme Tunes Suggested by Readers
Just one today: “The Coronavirus Song” performed by an unknown due in an Irish bar. Lockdown Sceptics readers will enjoy this one.
Love in the Time of Covid

We have created some Lockdown Sceptics Forums, including a dating forum called “Love in a Covid Climate” that has attracted a bit of attention. We have a team of moderators in place to remove spam and deal with the trolls, but sometimes it takes a little while so please bear with us. You have to register to use the Forums, but that should just be a one-time thing. Any problems, email the Lockdown Sceptics webmaster Ian Rons here.
Sharing stories: Some of you have asked how to link to particular stories on Lockdown Sceptics. The answer used to be to first click on “Latest News”, then click on the links that came up beside the headline of each story. But we’ve changed that so the link now comes up beside the headline whether you’ve clicked on “Latest News” or you’re just on the Lockdown Sceptics home page. Please do share the stories with your friends and on social media.
Woke Gobbledegook

We’ve decided to create a permanent slot down here for woke gobbledegook. Today, I’m highlighting a Harvard University advertisement for an Associate University Librarian for Antiracism.
The Harvard Library seeks a collaborative, strategic, and results-oriented leader for the newly created position of Associate University Librarian for Antiracism.
The ideal candidate for this position will have a broad vision for the role of antiracism in shaping the future of research libraries and achieving institutional excellence, as well as a strong track record in managing change, building and supporting initiatives that promote equity, diversity, inclusion, and belonging, and a sophisticated understanding of anti-racism philosophy and resources. With strong support of the library’s senior leadership, the AUL for Antiracism will help synthesize, integrate and further catalyze the library’s equity, diversity, inclusion, belonging, and antiracism efforts across all aspects of the library’s mission…
Responsibilities
Reporting to the Vice President (VP) for the Harvard Library and University Librarian and Roy E. Larsen Librarian for the Faculty of Arts and Sciences, the Associate University Librarian (AUL) for Antiracism is a collaborative leader whose primary focus is the development of the Harvard Library as an exemplary antiracist research library. The AUL serves as an active member of the VP’s senior team, sharing in responsibility for library-wide planning and resource allocation, and providing vision and advice on organizational development, diversity and social justice matters, communication strategies, and crisis management. The AUL engages as a thought-leader with colleagues across the Harvard Library and faculty, students and staff across the university in advancing strategies for an inclusive library climate and all aspects of equity, diversity, inclusion, belonging and antiracism in the library’s workforce, services, collections and spaces. This includes developing and implementing measurable goals and metrics, and using data, research and evidence-based practice to identify and change systems, structures, policies, practices and individual behaviors that perpetuate systemic racism. The AUL’s direct reports are individuals on the library’s new antiracism team, which will include librarians with roles such as collection development and research services as well as the Harvard Library Human Resources team’s diversity specialist. The AUL builds collaborative relationships with diversity leaders across the university and represents the library on related university councils, and coordinates library responses to emerging local, national, or global events that affect the experience of students, faculty and/or staff from historically marginalized groups and populations.
You have until December 13th to apply.
Stop Press: More nonsense from Harvard.
“Mask Exempt” Lanyards

We’ve created a one-stop shop down here for people who want to buy (or make) a “Mask Exempt” lanyard/card. You can print out and laminate a fairly standard one for free here and it has the advantage of not explicitly claiming you have a disability. But if you have no qualms about that (or you are disabled), you can buy a lanyard from Amazon saying you do have a disability/medical exemption here (takes a while to arrive). The Government has instructions on how to download an official “Mask Exempt” notice to put on your phone here. You can get a “Hidden Disability” tag from ebay here and an “exempt” card with lanyard for just £1.99 from Etsy here. And, finally, if you feel obliged to wear a mask but want to signal your disapproval of having to do so, you can get a “sexy world” mask with the Swedish flag on it here.
Don’t forget to sign the petition on the UK Government’s petitions website calling for an end to mandatory face masks in shops here.
A reader has started a website that contains some useful guidance about how you can claim legal exemption.
And here’s an excellent piece about the ineffectiveness of masks by a Roger W. Koops, who has a doctorate in organic chemistry.
Mask Censorship: The Swiss Doctor has translated the article in a Danish newspaper about the suppressed Danish mask study. Largest RCT on the effectiveness of masks ever carried out. Rejected by three top scientific journals so far.
The Great Barrington Declaration

The Great Barrington Declaration, a petition started by Professor Martin Kulldorff, Professor Sunetra Gupta and Professor Jay Bhattacharya calling for a strategy of “Focused Protection” (protect the elderly and the vulnerable and let everyone else get on with life), was launched last month and the lockdown zealots have been doing their best to discredit it ever since. If you Googled it a week after launch, the top hits were three smear pieces from the Guardian, including: “Herd immunity letter signed by fake experts including ‘Dr Johnny Bananas’.” (Freddie Sayers at UnHerd warned us about this the day before it appeared.) On the bright side, Google UK has stopped shadow banning it, so the actual Declaration now tops the search results – and my Spectator piece about the attempt to suppress it is among the top hits – although discussion of it has been censored by Reddit. The reason the zealots hate it, of course, is that it gives the lie to their claim that “the science” only supports their strategy. These three scientists are every bit as eminent – more eminent – than the pro-lockdown fanatics, so expect no let up in the attacks. (Wikipedia has also done a smear job.)
You can find it here. Please sign it. Now over 650,000 signatures.
Update: The authors of the GDB have expanded the FAQs to deal with some of the arguments and smears that have been made against their proposal. Worth reading in full.
Update 2: Many of the signatories of the Great Barrington Declaration are involved with new UK anti-lockdown campaign Recovery. Find out more and join here.
Update 3: You can watch Sunetra Gupta set out the case for “Focused Protection” here and Jay Bhattacharya make it here.
Judicial Reviews Against the Government

There are now so many JRs being brought against the Government and its ministers, we thought we’d include them all in one place down here.
First, there’s the Simon Dolan case. You can see all the latest updates and contribute to that cause here.
Then there’s the Robin Tilbrook case. You can read about that and contribute here.
Then there’s John’s Campaign which is focused specifically on care homes. Find out more about that here.
There’s the GoodLawProject’s Judicial Review of the Government’s award of lucrative PPE contracts to various private companies. You can find out more about that here and contribute to the crowdfunder here.
The Night Time Industries Association has instructed lawyers to JR any further restrictions on restaurants, pubs and bars.
Christian Concern is JR-ing the Government over its insistence on closing churches during the lockdowns. Read about it here.
And last but not least there’s the Free Speech Union‘s challenge to Ofcom over its ‘coronavirus guidance’. You can read about that and make a donation here.
Samaritans

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And Finally…
This routine from comedian the late George Carlin about our neurotic fear of germs is right on the money. Incredibly, it was recorded in 1999.
Stop Press: James Herriot makes exactly the same point as Carlin in All Creatures Great and Small. He writes about a knacker’s yard, where the family recycled dead livestock into soap and glue…
There were eight young Mallocks and they had spent their lifetimes playing among tuberculous lungs and a vast spectrum of bacteria from Salmonella to Anthrax. They were the healthiest children in the district.










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A list of FBEL’s Covid-19 articles – and brief comments regarding continuation of coronahoax
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At the risk of being down-voted for being off topic (come on, consign me to Mabel Cow’s hall of shame!), what is the current position re the American election? What sources, you who know, can we consult to get behind the BBC/equivalent narrative?
Biden won
That’s numberwang!
Bookies are not so confident. Odds on Trump being next president just dropped from 16/1 to 10/1.
Not yet he hasn’t. The votes are still being counted, and none have yet been certified.
The media might have made the announcement, and the Biden camp might have claimed victory, but the media don’t decide who’s won, and Biden might yet be defeated. He might have won. He might not. My money’s on the latter, ie the Democrats cheated, but he could end up as president if it can’t be turned around legally.
William Barr has authorised DOJ to investigate possible election fraud. Expect lots of Democrat squealing. Just for the record, Gore got 37 days to challenge Bush.
Ah yes, and general reporting has picked up senior official resigning in protest at being asked to do his job. Principled, apparently.
Good. They should. Electoral fraud, along with financial corruption of the type we see with the Bidens has always been part of the American political but now the stakes are too big to let it pass. Lyndsey Graham is right when he says that if they let the Dems win off the back of fraud there will never be another GOP President.
I sit on the representative body of a particular sport at county level. During competitions we have a clear appeals process whereby if one team accuses another of cheating, it will be duly investigated. We don’t just say ‘you’re a sore loser, get over it!’ to the complainant, like the media seems to be doing with Trump.
How can it be off topic to discuss issues Toby himself discusses on the blog?
Not going to accept the judgement of self-appointed topic police on this, I’m afraid.
Especially as the result will affect us all.
Biden said in his speech that he wants all Americans to wear masks. As he wears one outside this is scary. As a possible ‘head of the free world’ his Covid agenda is absolutely relevant to all of us.
Newsmax seems prepared to air count or voting irregularities. Just google on Newsmax.
Mike Adams (naturalnews.com, brighteon.com) gives the Trump side.
Jon Rappoport (nomorefakenews.com) is consistently excellent.
The US msm is akin the bbc I’m afraid.
The election is not decided until the electors (the Electoral College) cast their votes, and that does not happen until January. By the way, the electors (strange as it sounds) are not delegates; they can cast their votes as they see fit.
I trust the above is sufficiently non-BBC enough.
I also believe the state senates can nominate and direct the electors?
I use this site as a ticker type guide to counter the BBC wokepedo narrative:
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/breaking-exclusive-system-glitch-also-uncovered-wisconsin-reversal-19032-votes-removes-lead-joe-biden/
I adopt the methods of historians: the critical analysis and evaluation of primary sources in preference to received opinion.
Check out Tim Pool, Steve Turley, Steve Crowder, Glenn Beck on YouTube.
Scott Adams is pretty good on this. His case for Democrat fraud being a nailed-on certainty is this:
(a) Most Democrats believe that Trump is literally Hitler
(b) If you had a chance to remove Hitler from power, but it involved cheating or fraud, you’d do it, wouldn’t you?
It only needs a small proportion of wokesters/Democrats/Leftists to act on this noble impulse and it will have happened.
P.S. Weirdly, TDS exists in this sceptics’ forum – an oxymoron!
I find Scott Adams (the Dilbert guy) very insightful. He has a daily podcast/YouTube.
This site if fairly mainstream Republican.
https://thefederalist.com/
This one is more partisan, but did forecast the result fairly accurately (as opposed to msm), and has good links to people trying to uncover fraud.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/
Another site that predicted the result pretty well is
https://21stcenturywire.com/2020-election-edge/
Site is linked to UK Column. Post-election coverage also good.
I would especially recommend this interview with lawyer Robert Barnes , who has himself been involved in election campaigns and also has a fascinating historical overview of ‘stolen elections’. You can miss out first four or five minutes, but don’t be discouraged.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ux0Qn2gc_ko
by Viva Frei
Biden Projected Winner – Elections 2020 Part Deux – Viva & Barnes Law for the People
Lawyers condemn the massive violations of law and order by Corona measures Published on November 7, 2020 by VG. CORONA TRANSITION In an open letter, the “Lawyers for Enlightenment” doubt the constitutionality of measures such as quarantine and compulsory masks for the entire population. In an open letter, the German organization “Anwälte für Aufklärung” points out massive violations of the law by the politically ordered corona measures. Corona Transition publishes excerpts below. You can download the entire letter as a PDF file or have it read aloud in a video. “We are a group of lawyers and are very concerned about our constitutional state. When we were admitted to the bar, we swore to uphold the constitutional order and conscientiously fulfill the duties of a lawyer. We therefore feel an urgent obligation to point out the gross unconstitutionality of the Corona measures and to call on politicians and the courts to reconsider the rights and values of our Basic Law. […] Epidemic of national importance without sound scientific justification Since March 2020, we have been experiencing the most massive restrictions on fundamental rights since the Federal Republic of Germany came into existence. The reason for this is the SARS-Cov2 virus,… Read more »
Pretty much like our Public Health Act 1984
[…] Unconstitutionality of the Corona measures The Corona Ordinances issued by the state governments almost every week are unconstitutional; the second lockdown since November 2, 2020 is grossly unconstitutional and violates fundamental rights. This is because the state governments are expressly not authorized to impose such massive restrictions on fundamental rights. The Infection Protection Act alone does not provide a sufficient legal basis for nationwide measures. Furthermore, due to the separation of powers, such far-reaching measures are generally subject to the so-called parliamentary reservation. This means that the legislator itself (i.e. the Bundestag or the state parliaments) would have to pass corresponding laws and not the governments may act on the basis of ordinances. However, the Basic Law also imposes considerable limits in this respect and prohibits the paralysis of society and the economy both nationally and regionally. For even in the event of war, which is not the case here, the Basic Law should not be suspended as fundamentally as we are experiencing for the first time, Article 115 a ff. of the Basic Law. Also the Bundestag may therefore not decide such measures! » (20 min) Source: Open letter of the lawyers for clarification from 5.11.2020 – 5… Read more »
Like Toby and James Delingpole (London Calling), I have a severe case of “Boris Derangement Syndrome”.
A year ago, I thought there was something magical about him. His wit, common sense, and ambition to steer the UK into an exciting, entrepreneurial future was infectious. He was someone we could relate to. Someone normal, with a fabulous sense of humour, who could stand up to EU bullies, poke fun at convention, and generally make life more fun.
I can’t even look at him now, I never watch the news, I don’t watch any of his announcements. Hell hath no fury as a former fan scorned.
As James Delingpole said, he truly is a ‘failed’ Prime Minister. 🙁
I hear you, can’t watch him, my blood would boil too much. Had such high hopes at the start of the year. All gone. My in-laws encouraged me to watch his Party Conference Speech ‘Old Boris is back’ they said….which I found shocking since he’s had us locked up (Manchester) since the end of July (and I’ve been an LS since the start of March). Any way I broke my promise to myself and watched it. Absolutely aghast…..all that Churchill/baffoonery that had been so appealing to Get Brexit Done was now chunnering on about wind and 2030…..like ‘Do you know what you’ve done to us the last 7 months? What happened to liberty?’
I think he’s just a dead man walking now, like a hostage sent out to read a script. So sad…..for us.
I’m starting to understand why so called Remainers saw him as a complete buffoon. Now that the veil is lifted…
Boris was always an unprincipled buffoon and he only jumped on the Brexit bandwagon as way of getting himself to the top of the greasy pole.
It’s proving to be rather greasier than he thought. Mind you, the same could be said of him.
I might be wrong here, but I think in his biography of Churchill, Johnson claims Churchill latched on to anti-appeasement as a way of getting in to power. And others, as does Rowan above, have speculated that Johnson saw Brexit as his pass in to power.
Well, he’s not principled in his private life why should we expect it in his public life?
Quite.
Hello,
I believe when Churchill got re-elected in 1951 the first thing he would tell new MPs is don’t trust bankers. This is because in 1925 he was chancellor and the bankers instructed him to put the UK back on the gold standard. This led to the general strike and the UK going into recession. Churchill lost his job and went into the political wilderness until he re-surface in the thirties before WWII. I believe Boris is out of his depth when it comes to covid and would do himself and the country a great service if he consulted more widely.
I don’t have to like the driver to get on the bus going where I want to go. Same with politics…..guess I was just naive to believe Boris now that we’re hijacked and on our way to gawd knows where.
i hope he slides down that greasy pole quickly!
Oh yes please.
I always thought the ‘boris is a buffoon’ thing was just from bitter lefties who didn’t understand it was all part of the act and that underneath he was a highly intelligent, capable man (he was, after all, a King’s Scholar at Eton, won a scholarship to Oxford and has written quite a lot of indepth historical books). I still think that leftie verdict was largely motivated by snobbery and jealousy. But it’s become clear that although he may be intelligent, he seems to have little or no regard for traditional English common-law freedoms, which is highly worrying.
I always thought the buffoonery was an act to conceal his shallowness.
Being unable to mask out global monopoly cartel agenda, I can only see Boris as groomed for his part. Within the agenda, it is impossible to lie to the outsiders, for they are unable to face the truth and must needs be fed whatever stories or noble lies operate their programming. I have seen it openly stated that USA never interferes with anyone else’s elections because the USA is the protector of Democracy. This signature is characteristic. The underlying ‘truth’ may perhaps be expressed as ‘do you want to eat, or be meat?’. H.G Wells wrote the Time Machine to this effect. That ‘eating’ doesn’t have to be literal isn’t the point, The matrix used the metaphor of human batteries as energy supply to a machine ‘intelligence’. the level of life at which predatory domination operates is the physical identification in permanent activation of fight-flight mode – also known as the reptilian brain – and very close to the idea of ‘pscho-pathy’ – for it can use the social aspect to mask in and manipulate by. I don’t try to weave sanity into an insane script – but if I had to imagine a basis to explain why and how… Read more »
Very interesting analysis Binra…
I keep reading it over but I’m still not sure exactly what you mean.
Do you mean that you think that some cabal (nation or group) has the politicians of all western governments forced into a position of fear while bribing them to do their bidding. Although it appears from the outside that they are either corrupt (profiteering from covid contracts etc) or incompetent..
If I am right about your analysis then what do you think they are afraid of and how do you think this could be pulled off in practical terms?
I totally agree with you … its impossible to lie. etc.. and that it will always be conjecture ..we will never ever know the truth.
He might be intellectually ‘intelligent’ but he lacks common sense and is ungrounded.
Was,is and will always be an opportunist liar.
Yep pretty much my feeling…except I suppose I retain a certain fascination as to what’s going through his mind as he steers the ship of state on to the rocks.
Same here. Why is he doing it, and how does he cope with the knowledge that he is ruining his own children’s, relatives’ and friends’ lives, too?
We tend to forget this is a global phenomenon. Why are any of them doing it?
Perhaps they are all destined to inhabit the magic bubble after the culling is complete and the self-styled elite have the remainder of the population slaving for them until they reach 45 years of age when the DNR hammer kicks in.
How old do you have to be to know that you can never trust a politician. I voted leave, but always thought that Boris was a lying brain-dead twat. I have not been disappointed.
Sam Harris in a recent podcast seems to have only now had the revelation that many people voted for Trump not because they like him or respect him, but that he is the only thing that can
stoppostpone the forces of wokeness and, ultimately, communism from prevailing in their country.Trump just might fit that description, but Boris doesn’t and never will.
I never vote but if I was an American this would have been my first foray into the booth, and Trump would have been my pick. I see the other choice as ushering in the destruction of the USA…and a Trump win would have had lefties fainting in the street and a collective wailing cry would have been audible coast to coast. Darn I really wanted wokies losing their minds again!
Boris played his part of the brexit psyop.
‘Brexit’ masked as a bid for regaining a sense of freedom and sovereignty in our own decision making but never had any such intent – but rather to draw it out to be cancelled, eradicated, or immunised against.
The intent is to undermine and destroy society as the basis for remaking a new one – with the new toolset that Boris was mouthpieced to announce on his first speech to the UN.
The narratives are sideshow to the actual rollout of regulatory instruments and structures that will make the lockdown and masking, conditional to human existence, along with removal of any checks or balances against being discarded, experimented on or enslaved.
Snap.
I always knew he was calculating and that he could equally have backed Remain if he’d thought it would get him to the top job. But on the other hand I thought – naively it seems – he truly understood the value of liberty, the chain of history and our marvellous dynamic culture. I also thought he understood that not to be optimistic is to suffer a kind of death in life. It seems I was totally wrong about him.
Boris is a paradox (same as a pair of geese but it can swim): a complete arse with no bottom.
I have him nailed on as a copper bottomed arse.
Geese can swim. 🙂
Of course they do, just a bit of Dublin humour, but Boris.. 😉
Haven’t been to Dublin for decades – apologies.
I’ve never been, but I am reliably informed that it’s a dump.
I can’t understand how you could ever have thought that this man was a serious politician.
Crisis actors get the job these days. The casting manager puts out the image that is optimal for its part to play. Image operates subliminally. An Internet of data is profiled to select the strategies by which to play the crowd. By the time we recognise the ruse – they are several steps ahead – because we think it can make sense or be understood, and they use that to play our themes back to us.
A terror tactic in dirty wars is to hide explosives and a trip to a detonator in a toy, a teddy bear or some fluffy haired funny man. Appearances can be deceits.
exactly my sentiments also – cannot watch or listen to him at all – he’s so ingratiating patronising and can just see through the bumbling baffoonery – it’s embarrassing to have him as our PM.
Last year, you would have dismissed something like this as nonsense (as you might even would still):
A brief history of recent elections leading to the collective stupidity of 2017: a gibbering imbecility about to be repeated
What I don’t understand is how the people I know who would openly denigrate Boris, and label him as a self serving, arrogant, liar, cheater etc etc. seem to be the people who have most warmly embraced lockdown rules and regulations. I liked Boris, voted for him, but now I see him how these others did. Does this mean they have all changed their minds and decided he should be trusted after all?
I never understood why people didn’t see Johnson for what he is: uncaring, dishonest, slippery, and basically full of shit. While I’m a Brexit supporter I never had any illusions that he’s a thoroughly dodgy person.
Our City council have put up the usual Xmas street decorations in the city centre ready for the big day which commences Late Night Christmas Shopping on the last Thursday in November 🤔.
My smaller high street shops are mostly independents and each has a permanent metal sconce at first floor level set at 45 degrees in which to place a modest 🎄Christmas tree🎄 with a few multicoloured lightbulbs which look a lot more Xmasy than Councils stark shiney❄ white ones.❄
I doubt if many will bother this year.
Oh yes but they used the tower of the medieval Parish Church to string up the priest in the English Civil War.
Hang the Politburo from the Christmas tree! Now that really would be a festive decoration.
Not-so-Strange Fruit??
A strange and bitter crop.
Yesterday another reader posted an incoherent, rabid article by the Daily Mail about the government’s drive to tackle anti-vaxxer propaganda spread online by
anyone concerned about a rushed vaccinethe Russians . It makes a little more sense in the context of today’s vaccine news.I thought it worth reposting a couple of exerpts here –
A government source told the Times: ‘GCHQ has been told to take out antivaxers online and on social media. There are ways they have used (sic) to monitor and disrupt terrorist propaganda…
As well as the new GCHQ drive, a secretive army unit specialising in information warfare is also thought to be involved in countering fake narratives about the coronavirus.
General Sir Nick Carter, the chief of the defence staff, has confirmed that the 77 Brigade is ‘helping to quash rumours about misinformation but also to counter disinformation’
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8927865/GCHQ-spies-launch-cyber-counter-attack-against-anti-vaccine-propaganda-spread-Russia.html
A very similar article appeared in The Times. These people are running the country?
I suspect that ‘misinformation’ will be anything that contradicts the official line, even if it’s true
Daily Mail commenters not buying it.
Overwhelmingly sceptical about covid/lockdown, the vaccine and that the Russians are trying to manipulate us.
Yes the Russian narrative really is getting very tired.
That narrative always stank.
They sound like a broken record every time they pull out the Russia card.
Mind you even in the mid to late 19th century they also pulled the Russia card (apart from the French one) constantly especially when it came to India so there seems to be nothing new here.
Yes, at least they are predictable, it makes it easy to spot their manoeuvres.
That’s MI6 for you!
I thought this was a great quotable comment in the DM:
Imagine a virus so deadly, you need a test to see if you have it. Imagine a vaccine so safe and effective you have to threaten and force people to take it. Imagine a product so safe that the manufacturers have to be exempt from prosecution for all the harm their product will cause?
Yes I posted that same comment here yesterday.
Yes indeed, the utterly corrupt UK government is now trying to foist an unneeded and hardly tested experimental vaccine on healthy people. Vaccines tend not to work on the old and the sick, so that is another no no. The government in its benign wisdom wants to limit debate on this half-arsed project by employing the Army’s 77th Brigade, which knows less about vaccines than my big toe. Behind the Pfizer vaccine you will find the usual suspect, that is the eugenicist and depopulation enthusiast, Bill Gates who has backed every Covid vaccine that’s going, so he just can’t lose. Those who will volunteer for any of these ultra dodgy Covid-19 vaccines must have a lot of empty space between their ears. You could hardly make this stuff up.
Being told what to think at our own expense. No mention of the Chinese though?
“These people are running the country?”
Just remove the question mark.
UK Column did a section on it:
https://www.ukcolumn.org/ukcolumn-news/uk-column-news-9th-november-2020
No double standards please
Top of the list for the vaccine are the elderly in care homes
This is somewhat at odds with how this group was treated in March when they were sacrificed in their thousands to save the NHS
So come on, let’s save the NHS and vaccinate all the NHS staff first
Obviously any NHS staff member who refuses to save the NHS by declining to be vaccinated would have their contract terminated
Why not start with our politicians since they are so keen on it ?
They have sacrificed so much for us already. The least we can do is allow them to take it first.
Why do you think Boris jumped out to say it was still very very early days. They don’t want to take it either.
Agree, they would never take the risk.
You go first. No, you go first. No, thank you.
All except the ones who voted against the second lockdown. Now that *would* be just.
On second thoughts I retract that. Nobody should be compelled.
They will be given saline.
Almost certainly.
Then it should be done by an “anti-vaxxer” who has double-checked that its not just saline first.
Yes it should, but it won’t.
Insofar as vaccines are ‘safe and effective’, they are vastly more so for those with robust and resilient health. It may have been that most of those assigned to dying of ‘covid’ succumbed at end of life to complications arising from respiratory disease – COMPOUNDED by isolating, masked and inadequate or misguided treatment – that included denial of the most basic human right to the company of their family or loved ones. About 90% of the first wave of deaths in UK / Ireland were patients deemed too frail to transport to ICU. If vaccinating for flu in the very old has huge health benefit – beyond mere assertion and belief, how would we know? There are those who see the vaccine as saviour, and others see it as a trojan horse that undermines immune function under the promise to boost your weakness. The Vaccine market bubble may or may not produce anything beyond research owned by its funders in the biotech field and the means to leverage biosecurity status along with carbon footprints, and no doubt social credit for compliance. “Why in all this time have you NOT reported anyone for breach of the rules on which our collective… Read more »
Yes – enforce the disease under optimised conditions so as to then have immunity.
Very many of the aristocratic class or wealthy who paid for this prophylactic also paid with their lives.
Napoleon took minute doses of poison as a precautionary to boost against being poisoned. Mercury being named as one. This practice was not uncommon and the cumulative effects of neurotoxins wasn’t appreciate – or in the case of treatments for herpes/syphilis was considered the lesser evil.
While people believe in the saving toxin as the lesser evil, they will assign its symptoms to the greater evil they think they are combatting or being protected against.
If goodness were guaranteed, we would not need even an ideal government.
But then freedom would not exist and the Good would be as meaningless as a robotic compliance.
Love is key.
It was only about 10 days ago that the headlines were that the best that could be attained with a vaccine was to reduce some symptoms in some people however it would be ineffective for the elderly. And yet here we are now with a ground breaking 90% effective vaccine a matter of days later (and straight after US election). Hmm. And since when has there ever been an effective vaccine for a respiratory virus? The flu, between 15-50% at most. Sit back and watch, how long will it be before there are adverse side effects I wonder?
Stinks, doesn’t it? Waffle from dePiffle.
Your first sentence sums up exactly what this vaccine achieves. The trial involved circa 50k participants, roughly half given the 2 dose vaccine and the rest placebo. Of these 94 received a positive PCR result PLUS at least one symptom. (Note the figures for just positive PCR are not forthcoming despite the fact that we are lead to believe that asymptomatics can pass it on.) Of the 94 only 9 had received the vaccine 85 a placebo. As far as I can see it has not been disclosed whether anyone died/was seriously/moderately ill so it is possible/probable that everyone had mild symptoms only. So the conclusion must be that they had reduced the chance of a mild symptom eg headache by 90% from 85 to 9.
Assuming that the risk of infection was equal in both groups. Lots of other variables, after all.
If half of the 43,538 received the placebo and only 85 developed sysmptoms then 99.6% of those that took the placebo didn’t develop symptoms. I might take my chances with the salty water rather than the vaccine at this stage! Timing of the press release astonishing.
There’s no reason to take the vaccine, it won’t work on the old and the young have no need of it.
does anyone know what pfizer used as placebo one of the tricks they use is to use another vaccine or one of the adjuvants such as aluminium. the man in brazil who died on another trial had received a placebo as far as i know but that was not saline, it was the meningococcal vaccine.
It will be another vaccine as you say and yes that is not a true placebo.
As long as the sheep believe it works and it brings an end to the bloody muzzles and the ghastly ‘social distancing’ it will be good enough for me.
A vaccine is just a monetised version of lockdown.
If Covid goes away on its own, hey presto, the vaccine works.
If Covid doesn’t go away, oh dear, it’s mutated, and we need another vaccine.
Repeat ad infinitum.
Please no. I keep on saying my son was an ICU doctor throughout all of the first (only) wave. He worked damned hard and at the start I was terrified for him. He seems to be immune. His wife, also a doctor, was not and caught Covid-19. She took quite some time to recover and he still did not catch it from her. I don’t see why they should be punished now by being guinea pigs for this vaccine. I won’t take it, you won’t take it and neither should they.
Yes I agree. It’s as nasty as the people saying civil servants and any public sector workers should be forced to have it. Some people on here as as blinded by MSM as anyone else – being a skeptic and being a public sector worker are by no means mutually exclusive!
How about we just let people choose if they want it or not? It doesn’t really matter which demographics you choose to start with because the most important thing is it will give us HERD IMMUNITY. I would suggest that the best places to start though would be areas of the country that have so far been untouched eg Cornwall as they will have the lowest levels of natural immunity in the population.
Thank you. It must be entirely voluntary. I read enough elsewhere of people desperate to get to the head of the queue for the vaccine. All information must be presented clearly and truthfully and if they want to go ahead then let them.
Let’s face it, it could be a totally safe (in as much as any pharmaceutical intervention can be) and moderately effective vaccine. We just don’t know yet so fully informed consent is the order of the day.
I read other fora including a frequent flyer one where almost nobody sees any possible downside at all. They just want to get back up in the air. Let the make that choice.
100%, Steph. Not a single wrong word in your post, so I won’t repeat any of of it.
What I will add is: most importantly, no-one’s job should depend on them having to take it, EVER.
I sincerely hope not, Teresa. 🙁
You will have to take it as they want rid of you and your co-workers. The rest of us will also be bullied, blackmailed or mandated into baring our arms. We live in the very worst of times.
Yes. Surely at the centre of medical ethics is the idea of autonomy. We “respect patients’ autonomy by giving them the information needed to understand the risks and benefits of a proposed intervention, as well as the reasonable alternatives (including no intervention), so that they may make independent decisions” (Sedig, 2016).
They don’t necessarily have to force anyone to take the vaccine. Just as nobody is forced to use a credit card, bank account or a passport, but it makes life very difficult if you don’t have those things.
Yes they will bully and blackmail, before they try to mandate the vaccine, which of course they eventually will.
If the vaccine is totally safe then the Covid-19 plandemic will have been a monumental failure.
Some people on here as as blinded by MSM as anyone else
Yes.
Not happy about your Cornwall idea though. The virus has never really done much down here in Devon and Cornwall, perhaps because we may have some of the highest levels immunity in the population.
I actually think it spread in the West Country this time last year.
Yes, that’s the interesting question. A bit later around us in SW Devon – the TJN family, and friends around us, had classic covid symptoms Christmas-New Year, lasting into January.
Either the virus doesn’t like the sea/moor air or we’ve had it, or both.
Where I am, in south Devon, our ‘infection rates’ are currently twice as high as the UK average. No corresponding rise in death rates, though. Yet.
Our local director of public health was obliged, when the first person to die for four months with a covid positive test was announced, to explain that this had been a very old lady who had been receiving end-of-life care.
One of the university cities? That might explain the infection rates. Outside of Plymouth/Exeter/Torbay it wasn’t too bad here last time I looked – that’s on +ve pcrs.
If people are afraid of the vaccine, which they ought to be, they shouldn’t wish it on others, excluding the government of course.
I agree that trying to make this a public vs private issue is not a helpful approach, just as making it a left-right issue is not helpful.
The trouble with accepting a vaccine, even if it is safe, is that it validates the idea that covid is an exceptional event, medically speaking, leaving the door open for further rounds of madness in the future
Totally agree! A lot of these people are still working to keep services going; they are just doing their jobs, like lots of others are trying to do, and should never be thrown in with the “just following orders” lot.
I’m very disappointed to hear anyone say, “such and such a lot should be made to take it first”, as a punishment.
“It’s as nasty as the people saying civil servants and any public sector workers should be forced to have it.”
When you work for the system, you are the system and compliance begins at home. I am a former public servant.
Public servants should just say no, but most of them won’t and they will then be dead meat.
Quite right – especially the bit about us supposed to be the ones who are enlightened following the facts. I distresses me to see these pages sometimes/frequently wandering from these principles
The best place to start is not bother at all. The vaccine is clearly highly experimental, hardly tested and is not needed by 99.7% of the population. Oh I forgot to mention that it will likely be intentionally harmful.
If doctors won’t take it then why on earth should the rest of us.Just say no, loudly.
I don’t think its double standards…its the same standards. The old and infirm are once again expendable. They provide a good cohort of the population on which you can roll out mass trials and if anything negative were to happen (on a small scale at least) they can just point at the old codger and blame any side effects or even their untimely death on their existing conditions!! Genius!
Obviously this would be disastrous if granny keeled over immediately after the jab, but a couple of weeks later who’s really going to check? They didn’t really bother checking COVID deaths so they certainly aren’t going to waste time checking death by lethal injection?
I wont be having the vaccine by choice or if threatened at work but I like so many others cannot afford to lose my job. Healthcare professionals should have the choice with no penalties for refusing.
Has anyone seen Klaus Schwab’s twitter account ? He of the WEF and The Great Reset.
Some choice gems:
We are currently liaising with UK government ministers. We are advising them, in the light of an unprecedented pandemic, to implement legislation to arrest & prosecute those that celebrate Christmas
The #COVID19 pandemic has gifted the global population with a great opportunity to #BuildBackBetter
“The abolition of marriage & the family is central to the fundamental transformation necessary to implement a just society.” – Karl Marx
The latest scientific research suggests that #COVID19 can be super-spread via flowers, small shrubs and certain cacti.
Don’t send flowers to granny. Don’t kill granny.
Due to mandatory social restrictions, single people are finding it more difficult than ever to meet each other. As the global population is currently not #sustainable and birth rates need to fall, this can be viewed as a very positive outcome of the #Covid_19 pandemic.
Is he serious or is he just trolling us ?
the underscore klaus_schwab account is the real Klaus.. the other is a satirical troll…
The one I mention has an underscore @_Klaus_Schwab but could be a satire yes. I just can’t be sure of anything anymore, when real life has become a farce… …
It’s not that satirical.
Yes I have , I’m pretty sure it’s a fake account , it is funny in a dark way
The funniest things are usually based on fact.
Yes , I think the best response to this man is to laugh at him.
I’d just like to see Roger Moore blow him up along with his underground base.
Surely killing granny is a critical step on the path to the abolition of the family…
They haven’t thought that one through have they ?
Indoctrinating her grandchildren has already begun years ago.
“Pfizer’s data is yet to be peer-reviewed or published in a medical journal but the drugmaker said it would do so once it has results from the entire trial.”
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8930445/Joe-Biden-pleads-Americans-wear-mask-despite-vaccine-breakthrough.html
So does peer review constitute a scientific gold standard, or doesn’t it?
Time to publish the Danish nappy study.
Pfizer study not peer reviewed (and not even complete): never mind, shove the stuff into people anyway.
Danish nappy study not peer reviewed: obviously wrong result, no proof, shove the rags on to people’s faces anyway.
Remember cold fusion? The miracle cure for all the world’s energy ills. Vanished like a snowflake in the Sahara when other scientists tried to replicate the results.
Follow The Arseholes.
I guess it depends on if the peers receive grants from the same place?
You get the governments and the peers you pay for.
Here in the US I don’t see how the advent of a vaccine will enable the batflu catastrophists of Main Street to give it a rest. If the vaccine only ameliorates symptoms, rather than conferring immunity or preventing infection, these people will never be able to accept that they can get sick and expect it to be a minor event. They will be running around in masks until the day they die. If the vaccine prevents symptoms but does not mean that you are not infected, I will spend the rest of my life hearing about how we have to ‘shield the vulnerable’ by wearing masks and yadda yadda. Batflu hysterics are so deeply implicated in this pseudo-emergency that they now have no way out except by means of a deus ex machina who tells that they have done well and may now cease to worry. But why would anyone do that, when these nutters are so manipulable? As for Joe’s mask mandate, he can jack it up his ass. There is no evidence that masks work and he knows it. Wearing a mask outside has no public health value; it is purely a measure of your submission to authority.… Read more »
It is not just the fact that masks are ineffective, they are extremely dangerous. Not being able to see someone’s facial expression automatically triggers the body’s natural alert system putting us in a state of high stress. Stress is greatest killer known to man. Concealing identity around children enables child abduction. Preventing natural air flow stops bacteria from exiting the body and can lead to serious lung conditions. This is COMMON SENSE. People’s common sense instincts have been hijacked by technology.
It also creates problems for the cult of celebrity and physical appearance. How can you sell makeup, toothpaste etc to masked people? How can you have celebrity websites, youtube videos, Love Island etc if everyone’s face is covered?
There’s never a shortage of enhanced boobs thrust in your face from the DM website.
Countries without mask mandates even have no or smaller second waves than those with them.
People don’t handle them correctly, they make them ignore distancing rules, they touch their faces more often, and they breath in their own virus again if they are infected, thereby turning them from a lowly infected uninfectious person into an infectious one.
Masks are indeed dangerous killers.
Of people, freedom and democracy.
And Gessler’s hats, like the Hitler salute was one.
An issue I have with masks is that my glasses steam up from my breath. I have the feeling sometimes the mask is still on me after I take it off.
That tells me you are exempt. And if you can’t get that you’re exempt on the grounds of mental deficiency. AG
Have any of the people who thought Biden so wonderful changed their minds on hearing about the mask mandate?
i wish but i think they’re too brainwashed is a cult . however so happy to have met more wonderful fellow lockdown sceptics today there must be even more of us out there than I’d realized !
That zero covid movement is really going to galvanise the nation:
“National Day of Action Saturday 14 November
11.00 Online rally
14.00 Safe outdoor protests”
The real unsafe factor about outdoor protests is the behaviour of the thugs in uniform. They are clearly as thick as the proverbial planks and their turn will undoubtedly come.
Don’t worry, it’s a fair bet that the thugs in uniform won’t touch the ‘zero covid’ lot. MW
I’d like to start a zero zero-covid advocates movement.
This may seem OT but it is a response to a topic that keeps coming up in these threads, namely, the desire for a written constitution as a better protector of civil liberties. Don’t be so sure that this is true. In the US, the land of the ultimate written constitution, this does not provide as much protection as you might think. Judicial activists take the view that laws should be interpreted in the light of modern mores, which essentially means that laws are whatever the judge says they are today, according to his view of contemporary society. This does not involve any consultation with citizens, nor does it entail any examination of how this new interpretation of the law affects the existing legal code. My state was lauded as being one of the first to legalize gay marriage, but that only happened because a judge suddenly discovered that it had been a constitutional right all along! He was swiftly voted out at the next election, because nobody else saw it that way. Similarly, it is hard to see how abortion and gay marriage are rights discovered in the Constitution. Point being, written constitutions can also be abused. Worse yet,… Read more »
The USA is a mess, yes, although Switzerland’s constitution has been impressively durable; sometimes it works.
Good insight – thanks.
This is why I am against a codified constitution for the UK – it will just enshrine in law for all time the values of the Guardian.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoCYYVmDbMU&t=21s
1:32:07 Is where the magick starts on this WEF video
Yes.. that’s Rishi talking about the Great Reset…
Bashing us over the head with it yet still some ignore it..
Wilfully ignore it.
I sometimes wonder about the motivation behind the chaps who started this website and today’s leading and ever so slightly gushing article about the vaccine only strengthens my suspicion.
Most people including many sceptics still seem to be in awe of Big Pharma and its vaccines. This is usually down to ignorance and years of blatant propaganda. A few hours of serious and open-minded research is usually enough to dispel many of the myths concerning vaccines. Any doubts concerning the safety and effectiveness of current vaccines will increase by an order of magnitude in respect of the rushed and hardly tested Covid-19 vaccine offerings.
Headline in the FT
“Rishi Sunak about to launch first Green Gilts”
(entirely behind paywall).
A gilt is a young female pig that hasn’t yet graduated to being a sow.
Not a good investment, particularly if green.
Buy Pfizer shares, short Pfizer shares, buy Pfizer shares, short Pfizer
Money to be made by the elites
The bill always added to the taxpayers tab
‘Twas on the bridge at midnight……
It’s the rich wot gets the pleasure
It’s the poor wot gets the blame
Ain’t it all the fucking same’
Cecil, you nailed it. Crony capitalists’ (aka Inner Party) “boot stamping on a human face –forever”.
You are no longer allowed an opinion or a choice over your own body. Dissenters will be prosecuted. No vaccine, no right to life. In 100 years (if anything resembling what we know as the human being still exists and the world hasn’t been entirely filled with these hybrid homo-tech, faceless, microchipped versions of human beings, we will look back on all this and this genocide will eclipse the holocaust. Is there any hope or is it game over?!
In 4 billion years when our simulated sun destroys our simulated earth… it will not be simulated humans looking up at the simulated protracted cataclysm unfolding in the simulated heavens…
I have used Thalidomide more than once when trying to make people see sense. The brainwashing has gone deep – and into some of the smartest people I know. It’s so upsetting.
They should show those series of episodes again from Call the Midwife to demonstrate what damage thalidomide did to many people.
The terminator films suggest its game over! I used to think it was mad sci…but there again the first one came out in 1984!
Hello,
In regards to that George Carlin routine it was recorded in 1999 as part of a larger skit called “You are all Diseased!”. Carlin sadly died in 2008. The Youtube video you got it from was uploaded in 2011
Said it before and I’ll keep saying it:Christmas spoils the Winter.
To be honest, I’m not sure that this website is particularly critical of the vaccine agenda (aside from people of those who comment below the line). Or is that exactly what you’re saying?
Unfortunately there are plenty of “skeptics” who uncritically embrace the vaccine agenda precisely because they think it will “calm everyone down”.
I am not sceptical about vaccines as such, though I have never taken the flu jab, but I am sceptical that a rushed untested vaccine can be declared safe.
Just an observation, yesterday I collected my repeat medication for COPD. For the first time I looked at the blurb which included a dozen ‘common side effects’ and ten ‘uncommon’ ones some of which seem quite scary and might have put me off but I have never experienced any of them.
I’m not opposed to vaccines in general either. I think this one is unnecessary for the vast majority and most likely ineffective in those who could theoretically benefit from it. (I don’t care if they want to take it.) My greatest concerns are the possibility that there will be community support for mandatory vaccination and that vaccines will legitimise lockdowns and other authoritarian responses to epidemics.
In a nutshell.
you should try n-acetyl cysteine
This is EXACTLY what my friend says “we need the vaccine as it will calm everyone down”… how about “once they invent the gas chamber it might kill a few people but at least it will calm people down.” So irresponsible! No one is telling the truth. We have been trying to develop a vaccine for the common cold (caused by rhinoviruses and coronaviruses since the 1940s) and it is NOT POSSIBLE. Mostly, it seems, because as soon as you have a potential vaccine for one strain it becomes redundant because coronaviruses mutate too quickly. (Anyone actually watched the matrix – a great metaphor!) Look at this current drama about the Danish minks. Already the virus has mutated. “Shit, what do we do with 40 million doses of a vaccine? Let’s shove it into people anyway!” I am so frightened. The speed with which this nightmare is evolving is terrifying.
Hancock on BBC R4 8am news.
‘It doesn’t matter how effective the vaccine is, if it doesn’t pass safety tests we won’t use it . . . Clinical trials might take weeks but we are in the hands of the scientists’.
‘Starting off with care home residents and care workers then rolling down the age ranges’
Yes he would be happy to use the age care residents as guinea pigs, he has already demonstrated he has no concerns about their welfare.
Hancock has been called to an urgent meeting with his handlers?
Just quoting what he said, seems he’s on to Talk Radio next
His investments are clearly in mass-testing rather than the vaccine, or at least they aren’t in this particular vaccine.
They wont let go if you give in and take their medicine either.
I have had plenty of vaccines too – no pron.
It used to be that an ‘anti-vaxxer’ was someone who was against all or many vaccinations on principle.
Now, it seems that an ‘anti-vaxxer’ is someone, who questions any vaccine at any time anywhere.
So Hancock thinks a little prick will solve the Covid nightmare? Not sure why – as he’s not done a great job so far………
It isn’t about the vaccine. It’s about the “health” passport!
The health passport is just a form of controlling those who are left over, once the vaccines have carried out most of their dirty work. It should be very clear by now just what the Great Reset is all about and that there won’t be a place for most of us in that brave new green world.
i am more against vaccines in general personally, aside from polio or tetnus etc .but am definitely against this vaccine and any vaccine that is forced on people especially the idea that you can’t travel without a vaccine .is a science fiction movie now . that i did’nt buy a ticket for.
Perhaps welcoming a vaccine which may become mandatory will come to be seen as a similar kind of collaboration to wearing a mask outdoors.
Sceptics who embrace the vaccine agenda are only playing at scepticism. These not so sceptical sceptics are likely nothing more than the professional liars who make up the Army’s 77th Brigade.
Don’t give in, don’t take their medicine.
To be fair, he did say “If it really is 90% effective, protects the weak as well as the strong, has no major side effects and turns out to be as effective against other strains – all big ifs – it may help to calm everybody down.”
All big Ifs.
The point is we need people to come to their senses and realise that this virus has been horrendously overblown. If this doesn’t happen, and we just get a vaccine happy ending instead, with no reckoning as to the absurdity and monstrosity of the pandemic response, lockdowns and all the rest are likely to happen again in the future. And imagine what they might do to us if a genuinely dangerous pathogen came along.
Wouldn’t be at all surprised that if this attempt at a vaccine happy ending fails (as previous ones have) a much nastier new pathogen will come along.
Another nastier pathogen is exactly what Bill Gates has warned about. He calls it Pandemic 2 and he should know all about that, shouldn’t he?
They’re working on it this very moment.
Yes, pretty scary thought.
Never forget that video of Gates and his wife talking about ‘they won’t ignore the next one’ or words to that effect… with that evil little smirk on his face.
I think ‘money shot’ might be a more accurate term than ‘happy ending’ in this case.
If its just about ripping us all off, for another vaccine pushers obscene super payday, then we will have gotten away very lightly.
thin end of the trojan wedge.. one vaccine, followed by digital ID, followed by more vaccines.. and later? Sterilisations… augmentations.. experiments.. euthanasia… Logan’s Run.
Remember they keep failing…they will fail again.
Don’t forget the early vaccine deaths of the old and infirm.
It has not been tested on the weak or the old. It has been hardly tested on people 55 or younger. Can they tell us the death rates from Covid-19 in both groups and of course no long term side effects have been tested for. This is just another make Bill Gates even richer scheme and of course his accomplices in governments and academia the world over will also be doing very nicely.
If the current hysteria was caused by the virus instead of the media, our deeply corrupt institutions and government. As this is not the case then any calm will not be a result of the vaccine – it will be the result of a choice somewhere to stop terrorising the people.
To calm everybody down we need a vaccine that is effective against the brainwashing not the the virus and that seems even more unlikley.
He could easily calm everyone down by reducing the cycles for PCR testing to a reasonable level.
They’ll do that in conjunction with vaccine rollout.
The pandemic will have ended immediately just through that, but they will credit the vacccine, of course.
Which makes me hopeful that we’ll all get a placebo anyway.
Anything else would be reckless with regard to getting key workers vaccinated first anyway.
Who would do their jobs, if the vaccine turns out to be a mass killer in a few months time!?
Vaccine = Red Herring
This scare narrative has been so successful that politicians can easily string this vaccine invention out for another two years or more. During this time we will get used to all the restrictions – the dreaded ‘New Normal’.
With big tech clamping down on free speech, increased surveillance, destruction of the economy and the bad health effects of an underperforming NHS, how can we not become demoralised and compliant?
THE VACCINE/CARROT will continue to dangled by those whom it benefits financially until such time as other connected agendas are in place such as Green initiatives and increased reliance on state benefits.
The vaccines will be rolled out sooner rather than later, as they are the centrepiece of the great cull, which is a prerequisite for the Great Reset.
If the vaccine turns out to be a mass killer, which doesn’t seem at all unlikely, they will blame on either a new or mutated virus.
But he can easily “prove” that can’t he? We know the CMO and CSO are good at cherry picking data to support anything.
Do they pick it? I suspect they are handed it from the Nudge Unit, along with their script.
It’s a bit rich to talk of ‘calming us down’ it was the wretched government & Sage that so successfully concocted the fear in the first place & have been stoking it ever since.
The fact that he says “if” is meaningless, as he could hardly say anything else at this stage and we know in our bones that all those conditions will be met by hook or by crook. Being fair to vaccine pushers is akin to inviting Hannibal Lecter round for a spot of lunch. We ought to know better.
Free Speech Union?
Toby is just like TalkRadio.. I’m starting to delete my comments from here.. there is no free speech in this new normal. Delingpole has more integrity than Toby.
Why are you deleting your comments? Have you been censored here?
I don’t trust the site’s motives.
By which you mean you don’t trust TY’s motives? What do you think they are and what evidence do you have for this?
maybe I mean I don’t trust the government not to pursue online dissent at some point in the future.. feel uneasy…
It’s a possibility, and I too feel uneasy, but for now I would think pursuing public dissent is OK and preferable. There are MPs now openly dissenting – in North Korea they would not have done that, because one sign of dissent in private and they would have been for the firing squad.
Things could get very bad, and they are already pretty bad. But we’re not North Korea yet. Neither are we a completely free country, and freedom of speech has been constrained for a while now.
That seems a reasonable concern, but if we all adopt that attitude we are lost.
That crossed my mind several weeks ago.
Go to Mark Windows ‘Windows on the World’.
chaos, don’t delete your comments just because you disagree with the site owner.
Your opinions and thoughts have meaning to US, the commenters. 🙂
It takes one to know one. If you write into a public forum, you are wise to run what you write past your heart, such that you can stand in it. Self censorship in the sense of checking your own thoughts, accepted currency and given witness, is simply being responsible to yourself and therefore to your communication with others. Your freedom to give your witness, feedback or perspective is not dependent of freedom from persecution, or else you are censored by fear rather than aligned in the heart. If you step outside your own identity/worldview, you will have to cross a line that is really within yourself and not ‘out there’ – and this will come up perhaps many times in different moments. I suggest purifying your motives, such that IF there is any comeback, you are in your integrity to meet it. In any case life happens and if you are out of integrity you will suffer the changes through the filtering beliefs of self blame or division. I feel whole in what I write and as such it offers support to wholeness in others – even if it does not support their current worldview. Different people are in… Read more »
A Shot In The Dark – Are Vaccines Really Safe?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93_nkOPoh70&ab_channel=RichardBruce
Safe or unsafe, it doesn’t matter. Just say no. Don’t play their game.
I would like topics to be separated. It makes it easier to share and reference.
This is a blogsite. Not a forum. Doesn’t work that way.
You can post stuff onto the forum if you want to be able to find them later.
So you pegged out because you were reaching for the line? Confusing!
In the dark?
“the Government’s strategy involves setting up large scale asymptomatic testing programmes at universities”
Give me strength…!
They really need to escape now!
Great talk by Tom Woods on the Cult of Covid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcm8Sc8f66o&ab_channel=misesmedia
With regards to the Liverpool situation.
Informed consent is required- absolutely
Parents have to give consent- yes and no
The latter is age dependent.
Years 12 & 13 do NOT need parental consent (Mental Capacity Act confers capacity to make own decisions)
Year 11 those who are 16 do NOT need parental consent (MCA)
The remainder of Year 11 may or may not require parental consent, if they’re Gillick Competent.
Years 7-10 may or may not require parental consent, Gillick Competence
Primary school children MUST have parental consent.
Please note that when I worked in children’s A&E a child over 11 could ask for their parents NOT to be present. However a child presenting without an adult would be a safeguarding issue.
In my personal opinion parental consent should be sought for years 7-11, but definitely not years 12-13.
Yep. Despite the bluster, he is talking shit. This is the basics for any student social worker – knowledge around Parental Responsibility. I think his HCPC number needs to be garnered personally.
I forgot to say that the Children Act defines a child as everyone under 18 years of age.
Pure Green!!!
Andrew Johnson here gives an excellent presentation which tackles the main treasonous and otherwise events of the 2020 scam. Andrew is comprehensive and thorough in his lecture giving many good sources for further investigation.
Andrew uses official documentation clearly cited and presented to tell the story. Excellent. Lockdown Sceptics will be able to actively engage with the presentation recognising many points along the way. There is a section to lay tge foundation from Andrew’s own work at the time of previous scamdemics of 2009 Avian so called Flu.
As the title says it is doubtful if his lecture will remain online for long given the British GCHQ/77/bastards intention to remove online information that is not compatible with the insidious behaviours of Whitty, Valance, Hancock and Jackboot et al.
Download if you can. Share if you can.
https://youtu.be/nsmFTCbnMGY
Andrew’s site is checktheevidence.com if it disappears.
Andrew Johnson is great!.
“The man with the shitty blue fleece”.
What is the best way to download the vid?
Thanks it was fantastic.
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I wouldn’t trust those UK death figures much since they are testing everyone in hospital regardless of what they were admitted for and what symptoms they had. While there was possibly a plausible case for equating the spike of deaths over “average” back in the spring with covid, it is now tenuous. You really need to look at whether deaths right now in the UK are running much above average in recent decades and as far as I know the answer is they are not particularly.
Agree. But the argument is being made on the reported figures. So skewer them with their own hubris
the point of the graph is that masks and lockdowns do not prevent deaths.
In fact. it looks, comparing the UK and Sweden, that lockdowns actually cause deaths.
As for masks causing deaths, I think we should keep an eye on bacterial pneumonia statistics this winter.
Agreed! Give it to February.
I saw a 30+ year old woman on the bus yesterday. She sneezed into her full face mask then raised her left arm and wiped her mask on her sleeve. Blecch!