Lockdown 3.0
Yesterday evening Boris rang in from self-isolation to give his much-awaited briefing on the winter Covid plan. The MailOnline has the details:
Boris Johnson tonight warned against “over-optimism” as he said many areas face going into tougher Tiers after December 2nd than they were in before the blanket lockdown… He braced the public in England for difficult months before the ‘cavalry’ of science comes to the rescue and finally ends the crisis. And he said that although the national lockdown will finish next Wednesday, large sections of the country will still be under harsher measures than before it began on November 5th. Mr Johnson said “things will look and feel very different after Easter, with a vaccine and mass testing”. But he cautioned that the months ahead “will be hard, they will be cold, they include January and February when the NHS is under its greatest pressure”. He added: “Tis the season to be jolly, but it is also the season to be jolly careful, especially with elderly relatives.”
The new tier system is jolly careful indeed. The Telegraph as more on its implications for pubs, shops and services.
For church services
The Prime Minister confirmed on Monday that church services including Christingles and midnight mass will be able to take place in all three tiers. The number of people permitted to attend church together is also set to be determined by the level of restrictions on household mixing.
For hospitality
Pubs and restaurants in tier three areas will be limited to takeaway and delivery services only from next month as part of a tightening of regional restrictions… Diners and pub-goers will be given more time to finish their meals and drinks under the new system. Venues in tiers one and two will have to abide by a new closing time of 11pm, with last orders called at 10pm.
For sport
Outdoor sports such as golf and tennis will restart in all tiers, as will amateur team sports such as Sunday-league football…
For non-essential retail
Christmas shopping will be given the greenlight this year as the Government attempts to give hard-up highstreets across the country a major boost. Non-essential retail, including fashion, toys and gadget stores will reopen their doors when the second lockdown ends on December 2nd.
For socialising
Restrictions on household mixing will stay largely the same. Under the original tiered system, people living in tier one areas were required to comply with the rule of six both indoors and outdoors. However, Government sources suggested last week that tier one could be brought closer in line with tiers two and three due to concerns among scientists that measures in the lowest level are proving ineffective.
Worth reading in full.
The Telegraph has also helpfully whittled it all down to a handy graphic.
It is hard not to refer back Ross Clark’s piece which we flagged in yesteday’s round-up. This is…
a rebadged lockdown. While it will be described as a return to tiers, those tiers will be made tougher and more of us will find ourselves shunted into the top tiers. The result is that most people will be forbidden from mixing with family and friends until Easter – save for a brief truce over Christmas.
It is exactly, in other words, as I predicted. A semi-free Christmas is being used as the thin, dangling carrot which is supposedly going to help us resign ourselves to many months of isolation.
As always, Ross Clark is worth reading in full, if you haven’t already.
Stop Press: The Government is still working with devolved administrations on the plans for a “semi-free Christmas”, but we learnt from Nicola Sturgeon’s daily press conference yesterday that they will not in Scotland include Hogmany. Who would have thought we’d see an SNP First Minister axing a Scottish tradition? Best pass over to Alan Cochrane on this in the Telegraph.
Stop Press 2: MailOnline reports that fans may soon be able to return to stadiums, albeit in limited numbers. Manchester United v PSG will likely be the first match to welcome them back but there could still be rules to be followed on singing, shouting and drinking
Stop Press 3: Worth taking a look at how total deaths in England and Wales in 2020 compare with previous years. Second wave struggling to gather any momentum.
Centre of Evidence-Based Medicine
Lockdowns and Government Restrictions Make no Difference to Mortality Outcomes.
It is timely that in the run-up to the next gear change in the Government’s endless drive to “defeat the virus”, Frontiers in Public Health has published a peer-reviewed study of Covid mortality outcomes.
First the Context
We aimed at characterizing the non-viral parameters that were most associated with death rate.
The Methods
We tested major indices from five domains (demography, public health, economy, politics, environment) and their potential associations with COVID-19 mortality during the first eight months of 2020, through a Principal Component Analysis and a correlation matrix with a Pearson correlation test. Data of all countries, or states in federal countries, showing at least 10 fatality cases, were retrieved from official public sites. For countries that have not yet finished the first epidemic phase, a prospective model has been computed to provide options of death rates evolution.
The Studied Countries
From the 188 countries that have declared at least one case, only those counting a minimum of 10 deaths due to COVID-19 up to the study end point (August 31st 2020) were included. China and the United States were also analysed by states or regions, when each of them reached the 10 deaths threshold.
And the Conclusion (our emphasis)
Countries that already experienced a stagnation or regression of life expectancy, with high income and NCD rates, had the highest price to pay. This burden was not alleviated by more stringent public decisions. Inherent factors have predetermined the COVID-19 mortality: understanding them may improve prevention strategies by increasing population resilience through better physical fitness and immunity.
Worth reading in full.
This study focused on the first eight months of 2020. We doubt that anything from the later months of the year, which saw the rule of six, lockdown 2.0, the first and now the second tier system in the UK alone, will substantially challenge the analysis.
Barry Norris Unimpressed by AstraZeneca Announcement
The fund manager Barry Norris, who’s been tracking the vaccine trials very closely, wasn’t impressed by yesterday’s announcement by AstraZeneca. This is the note he sent to his clients.
We are amazed at the spin on the Astra vaccine. This was always designed as a two equal dose trial – 0.5 followed by 0.5 – and this population group has only achieved 62% efficacy (compared to a claim of 95% for the mRNA vaccines).
Now in breach of trial protocol they tell us there’s an improved “90% efficacy” in a small initial 0.25 dose followed by a bigger 0.5 dose, in an unofficial population sub-set which is probably so small as to be statistically insignificant. Moreover, they claim to have stumbled across this better recipe purely by accident, and somewhat embarrassingly claim this sub-set consisted of the volunteers who were systematically but “accidentally” given a smaller than intended dose, as reported here. (The Guardian has more details on this “accident” here.)
So riddle me this: the main dose trial shows only 62% efficacy in healthy adults (almost certainly less in the old and already sick) but a smaller sub-set shows efficacy with a lower dose? Lower doses usually lower side effects but they don’t usually result in higher efficacy. So there’s something bogus going on.
Moreover, if the vaccine really does work better with a smaller first dose then what does that say about the antibody response? Is the immune system producing antibodies to the second dose after a similarly-sized first dose? Is this why counterintuitively it works better on a small first dose? Does the volunteer develop immunity to the second vaccine after a bigger first dose?
If so, at best this is a one shot and one season vaccine.
At worst, if the first full dose does raise antibodies to the second full dose then you have the potential for auto-immune side effects, meaning that the vaccine ultimately inhibits the natural antibody response to the virus which would be disastrous in otherwise healthy adults.
Based on this data, the FDA is unlikely to approve the Astra vaccine (though undoubtedly the UK Government will) as:
* The trial protocol has been violated to data mine a more positive outcome.
* The duration of the efficacy is questionable.
* The overall efficacy is much lower than peers and it likely won’t work at all in the vulnerable (82 year-olds with comorbidities.) The US has mRNA.
* There’s no claim that it prevents virus transmission.
* They will want to monitor possible auto-immune side effects.
Could it be that UK Government has backed the wrong horse? To date, it has ordered 100 million doses of the AstraZeneca vaccine at a cost of £3 to £4 per dose.
Stop Press: AstraZeneca’s share price has fallen in the US following doubts about the likelihood of it receiving FDA approval.
Stop Press 2: Ross Clark in the Telegraph notes that “A vaccine exit strategy is curiously absent from the PM’s baffling Covid Winter Plan“
Dr Roger Hodkinson Was a Lockdown Sceptic Back in April
Readers will recall the marvellous speech delivered by Dr Roger Hodkinson, ex-Chairman of the Royal College of Physicians and Surgeons Examination Committee in General Pathology in Ottawa and a former Assistant Professor, to some health officials working for the Government of Alberta last week, telling them their strategy was all wrong. It’s now gone from YouTube, of course, but you can still catch it at Bitchute. Worth listening to again (it’s short and punchy).
Some speculated about whether the speech was real or a hoax, but we can confirm it was 100% genuine. Indeed, the Royal College of Physicians and Surgeons has seen fit to issue a statement disassociating itself from Dr Hodkinson in light of his remarks and, for the record, has slavishly regurgitated Covid orthodoxy.
Lockdown Sceptics has made contact with Dr Hodkinson and we are publishing a four-part series by him on the pandemic, with the first part published today. The first three were originally written for the University of Regina School of Public Policy in April and May, but he was told they couldn’t be published unless he toned them down which, naturally, he wasn’t prepared to do. Consequently, they are being published on Lockdown Sceptics for the first time. We will publish parts two and three on Wednesday and Thursday and part four when he’s completed it, which should be in a couple of weeks.
Part one is a scene-setter called “Who Failed and Why?” in which Dr Hodkinson discusses the origins of the virus in China and the disastrous initial reaction by public health authorities. Here is an extract in which he homes in on the WHO:
Statistically speaking, given the probable origin of SARS and COVID-19 in China, the next pandemic is likely to originate there also. That’s a problem. China was secretive about the start of its local COVID-19 epidemic (and still is), wasting valuable weeks before alerting the WHO of its existence which then downplayed its significance for the rest of the world. An early warning system is a vital starting point for effective international response to future pandemics. Clearly, the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) and the WHO cannot be trusted to act any differently in the future.
Furthermore, the (current) head of the WHO, Dr. Tedros Adhanom, is not a physician as have been all his predecessors, and has questionable credentials to effectively lead such a vital international resource at a critical moment in world history. He has, at times, acted as China’s apologist in this whole fiasco, compounding the problem by disseminating China’s misinformation under the imprimatur of the WHO early in the pandemic.
A senior WHO official responsible for the global response to this pandemic, Dr. Michael Ryan, has actually stated that “we may have to enter homes and remove family members” if they are COVID-19 positive – but in a “dignified manner”. It would seem he thinks COVID-19 is as lethal as ebola or smallpox, which it most emphatically is not. Do we want ‘officials’ knocking at our doors in the middle of the night taking away our kids to control future pandemics? I think not, and to attempt such an assault on personal liberty would cause civil revolt. But that was exactly what the WHO recommended!
I believe a personal anecdote is also relevant here. Right in the middle of the SARS epidemic in 2003, I met with the team of WHO officials ‘managing’ the outbreak right in their war room at WHO headquarters in Geneva. There wasn’t a virologist in the room, and of the eight or so people present about half were nurses from obscure African countries doing an obligatory WHO secondment. To say it was a gong show is an understatement. The world was left to its own devices, and so it was initially with COVID-19.
The most rational explanation for the origin of the epidemic in China is not the Wuhan wet food market as the WHO immediately and confidently stated, but rather one of the virology labs in Wuhan doing environmental surveillance of bat corona viruses. There was almost certainly an accidental escape due to poor compliance with laboratory bio-safety procedures for which there have been many examples in China in recent years. COVID-19 was not a genetically engineered virus for use in biological warfare – the corona virus isn’t anywhere near lethal enough for that nefarious use, judging from the number who’ve died in China, unless the entire Chinese population had already been vaccinated against it!
I believe I have made my case that the WHO cannot be trusted, is politically compromised, and is actually incompetent in the discharge of its expected leadership role. But more importantly, the WHO is advocating extreme containment policies that cut to the very heart of personal freedom.
The article continues in the same trenchant, take-no-prisoners tone and is very much worth reading in full.
Vaccination Before Travel
It is happening! Qantas, Australia’s largest airline, is planning to make proof of having had vaccination a condition of travel. From ABC:
Speaking on Channel Nine’s A Current Affair on Monday night, Qantas boss Alan Joyce said he believed it would be a necessity for passengers to be vaccinated once a vaccine is available. And he said the company was looking into the possibility of requiring passengers to have a vaccination passport which would allow them to travel.
“We are looking at changing our terms and conditions, to say for international, that we will ask people to have a vaccination before getting on the aircraft,” Mr Joyce confirmed.
“We think for international visitors coming out, and people leaving the country, we think that’s a necessity.” The Qantas CEO said the company would consider the same requirements for domestic flights.
He said he had talked to the chief executives of other international carriers who were also considering making vaccination mandatory for travel.
A vaccination passport is being touted as a method of proving passengers have been vaccinated.
“What we’re looking at is how you can have a vaccination passport, an electronic version of it that certifies what the vaccine is,” Mr Joyce said.
“There’s a lot of logistics, a lot of technology to make this happen, but the airlines and the government are working on this as we speak.”
Worth reading in full.
Isn’t this is a little rash of Qantas? The big pharmaceutical companies are exempt from liability if a vaccine turns out to have harmful side effects, but not airlines. What if someone only gets vaccinated in order to fly on Qantas and then suffers serious harm? Won’t they be able to sue Qantas? Perhaps the Australian Government, which had to bail out the airline back in April and has probably ordered the CEO to make this announcement, has indemnified it.
They’ve Deprived Us of Our Freedom
A letter printed in the Camden New Journal on the real reason young people go to illegal raves is worth reproducing here in full. Hard to argue with.
Further to your report in March this year various governments decided to close the world down!
Nothing like this had ever happened before, although there had been lots of different viruses over the years. Anyone would think there was a deadly plague.
According to the BBC website, recently there had been 51,766 deaths from COVID-19 in the United Kingdom. But people die all the time.
An alternative heading for your story could have been: “Police drive clubbers to desperation.”
What has actually happened is that in March all venues were closed down and haven’t been allowed to reopen except under lots of restrictions, including social distancing.
Now they’re all closed again. This means there have been no clubs or gigs that people could go to. This is the real reason for the raves in Primrose Hill and on Hampstead Heath.
The police have been rigorously enforcing these regulations by telling venues that they must stay closed and that they will be fined if they open and run proper nights out, but the police ignore any laws they don’t like.
I’m very pleased to hear that there aren’t enough police to do much about these raves. I now plan to go there as soon as possible and join in.
It’s a pity that residents in Primrose Hill claim that they can’t get to sleep. But there are some simple things they can do about this. The obvious solution is just to wear earplugs or earmuffs.
If that doesn’t work then they could just sleep at a different time of the day because it probably doesn’t matter what time of day they sleep, due to the lockdown.
Another solution would be for the police to claim that it’s not their responsibility to stop venues from opening; it’s “a civil matter”, or to use their famous “discretionary powers” to get out of doing it.
As for people like Councillor Pat Callaghan, Holborn and St Pancras MP Sir Keir Starmer, and the Prime Minister Boris Johnson, I think they should all be locked up and deprived of their freedom, because that’s what they’ve been doing to the rest of us.
The first lockdown didn’t achieve anything except depriving people of their normal way of life and this one won’t either.
It’s sad when people die, but the rest of us must get on with our lives. I’m violently opposed to the COVID-19 propaganda and lockdown. I plan to help smash the lockdown by breaking all the restrictions.
I demand my life back. I want it back now!
Paul Brown
The CNJ‘s reports on the rave is available here. (Includes footage.)
More on Protest Pots and Pans
Facts about the pots and pans protest in Denmark and the change in the proposed epidemic law remain hard to verify, as one reader notes:
It is so strange that there is hardly any coverage on main stream news regarding the protests in Denmark. In the Twitter stream there are a few people saying it is not true. Hardly anyone backs up their story with a link to anything official, it all comes back to Twitter and The Local
He has found a story on a local news site, Jyllands-Posten, which does suggest that the story might be true and that the law may be redrafted: (Extracts courtesy of Google Translate)
There has been widespread criticism of the Government’s draft of a new and very far-reaching epidemic law that gives the incumbent Health Minister extensive powers… Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen promised that the Government will look at the bill together with the parliamentary parties. “We will look at the epidemic law again, we take the criticism seriously and a better balance must be found,” she said to the North Jutland radio channel ANR and thus warns of changes in the bill.
Since November 4th, a group of protesters has filled the square in front of Christiansborg with the noise of pots in an attempt to get the politicians’ attention. They want to stop the passage of the epidemic law because they fear that far-reaching powers will be implemented.
The article is available here.
Meanwhile, the idea of a pots-and-pans protest continues to capture our readers’ imagination. We had this in from one yesterday:
Why not go for this on Thursday at 7pm. Get people to flood social media with this protest. Maybe they might sit up and listen like in Denmark
And from another, suggesting an alternative target:
Maybe the pots and pans protest would work better staged outside local and national media stations and offices. Parked vehicles which then sound their horns for two minutes at a designated time would highlight to the purveyors of the scare stories that they cannot have everything their own way. Six o’clock every weekday evening say?
Lockdown: The Right Side of History
YouTuber Kate Wand’s latest video is on the morality of lockdowns, the suffering they cause and the price paid by those who oppose them. It is a reading/visualisation of Stacy Rudin’s article on the American Institute of Economic Research blog.
In the Covid debate, there is a mainstream, “popular” narrative, and a competing, “unpopular” narrative – a “fringe”. The former exploits the common, mediocre desire to be “popular”. Joining the movement is easy. It results in back-pats, validation, and requires no uncomfortable confrontations. This narrative states that it is impossible for humanity to survive the COVID-19 pandemic without a vaccine, lockdowns, and masks, some combination of which will be required into the indefinite future. The narrative supports blaming others for “infecting you” with diseases, rather than encouraging personal responsibility for immune and general health.
Proponents of the competing narrative, on the other hand, must stand up to massive social forces simply to make their arguments, which are not radical: they support a return to classic pandemic management tools, the same ones used by Sweden and other states and countries which did not lock down for COVID-19, which resulted in average mortality for 2020. They do not believe this pandemic warrants a complete overhaul of the economic, social, and educational systems. They believe that every human being should be empowered with truthful information about risk and how to best care for personal health, and to make his or her own choices.
Faced with these competing narratives, we must consider motives and costs. The force of social pressure to conform with the mainstream narrative is large, so we know from the outset that the people willing to argue against it are either insane, or extremely driven, courageous, and strong. It is easy to eliminate the possibility that they are crazy many of them, – such as Elon Musk and the scientists who drafted the Great Barrington Declaration – are giants in their fields. They risk everything, weathering exhausting personal attacks from all sides, in order to battle the crowd.
Both the article and the video are great and very much worth reading in full or watching in full.
Round-Up
- “COVID-19: Merthyr sees 977 mass-tested for coronavirus” – A dramatic headline on BBC Wales leading into a less dramatic story: Only nine were found to be positive
- “Lockdown is part of the grand, green, global design” – says John Mortimer in the Conservative Woman
- “The gloom is lifting, now let’s get going!” – Professor Karol Sikora celebrates the good news about vaccines in the Daily Mail
- “The Left’s obsession with subjectivity” – David Goodhart in UnHerd on the Left’s habit of prioritising lived experience over data and logic
- “We cannot continue to live in this childlike cycle of repeated, damaging lockdowns” – Conservative MP Nus Ghani in the Telegraph, signalling her opposition to further restrictions and demanding a fresh strategy from the Government
- “The greatest scandal of our lifetime” – “Instead of following the science, governments are doing the opposite,” says R. J. Quinn in the American Conservative
- “Conservatism or pragmatism: that is the question” – Watch the inaugural edition of a new podcast Nurtural Disaster with Professors Bo and Ben Winegard discussing the merits of conservatism
- “We’re on the fast track to fascism” – Kathy Gyngell rails against ‘freedom passes’ in the Conservative Woman
- “Buffalo, New York business owners stand up to Cuomo” – Watch as a group of business owners in Buffalo chase out the Sheriff and Health Department officials who tried to shut down a meeting
- “Pay £120 to reduce quarantine to FIVE days” – Another scheme to make travel freedom contingent on a medical test. From MailOnline
- “No more quarantine for travellers returning to North Rhine-Westphalia” – Court in Münster overturns the German state’s quarantine regulation (in German)
- “Doctors ask people vulnerable to Covid to sign ‘do not resuscitate’ orders in bid to ease pressure on Swiss intensive care units” – Grim move that includes people over 60 and those with heart disease or diabetes. From the MailOnline
- “Stanford Condemns Atlas” – Article from John H. Cochrane on the Stanford Faculty Senate’s decision to condemn Scott Atlas, advisor to President Trump. From his blog the Grumpy Economist
- “Shop owner refuses to close over ‘complete injustice’ of Covid rules” – Mike Graham on talkRADIO speaks to Lydia Walker-Cox, a business owner who refuses to shut her shop
- “Laure Perrins returns to the Delingpod” – The co-founder of the Conservative Woman gives it both barrels on the subject of the lockdown
- “Will there be enough Christmas trees this year?” – Possible shortage of Nordmann Fir Christmas trees this year, as imports from Denmark are restricted
- “Was Covid beginning to peak before the second lockdown?” – Matt Ridley examines the data for the Spectator
- “FALSE ALARM: the corona-critic raid was staged” – The video in yesterday’s round-up, showing German sceptic Dr Andreas Noack was in fact an elaborate piece of creativity – fake news – and not helpful. Thanks to a reader for pointing this out
- Twitter thread by Telegraph cartoonist Bob Moran, setting out his opposition to masks using his own cartoons as illustrations
Theme Tunes Suggested by Readers
Two today: “No More Tears (Enough is Enough)” by Donna Summer and Barbra Streisand and “The Great Escape – Main Title Music” by Elmer Bernstein.
Love in the Time of Covid
We have created some Lockdown Sceptics Forums, including a dating forum called “Love in a Covid Climate” that has attracted a bit of attention. We have a team of moderators in place to remove spam and deal with the trolls, but sometimes it takes a little while so please bear with us. You have to register to use the Forums, but that should just be a one-time thing. Any problems, email the Lockdown Sceptics webmaster Ian Rons here.
Sharing Stories
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Woke Gobbledegook
We’ve decided to create a permanent slot down here for woke gobbledegook. Today we bring you an angsty piece from Teen Vogue, written in the aftermath of the elections across the pond: “Biden’s Call for ‘Unity’ doesn’t square with United States History“.
While it might seem that the country is uniquely divided right now, the United Sates is rooted in contradiction and divisiveness. It was founded through the genocide of Indigenous peoples and flourished through the enslavement of Africans. At its core, America’s values are white supremacy and capitalism. That is true no matter who has been in office.
Biden’s call for a “united America” boils down to nationalist propaganda. Americans have never been united and have been kept apart and pitted against one another by the state. From geographic segregation to immigration bans and racist policing, the United States has privileged the lives and security of some residents at the expense of others. Why should people who have been systematically oppressed, and who have struggled against the government for true freedom, be asked to hold hands with their oppressors?
When it looked for a moment on election night that Trump might take crucial swing states, I sunk into despair and fell asleep. When I woke up and it had become clearer that Biden was going to pull through, I didn’t feel excitement or even safety. I felt exhausted. The next four years will be very different from the Trump era, but they will still be a battle.
Read in full here, or if woke gobbledegook leaves you too exhausted to carry on, read this summary in Breitbart.
Stop Press: It is also worth reading about Senator Tom Cotton’s comments on the erasing of the 400th anniversary of the Mayflower’s arrival at Cape Cod. From MEAWW.
“Mask Exempt” Lanyards
We’ve created a one-stop shop down here for people who want to buy (or make) a “Mask Exempt” lanyard/card. You can print out and laminate a fairly standard one for free here and it has the advantage of not explicitly claiming you have a disability. But if you have no qualms about that (or you are disabled), you can buy a lanyard from Amazon saying you do have a disability/medical exemption here (takes a while to arrive). The Government has instructions on how to download an official “Mask Exempt” notice to put on your phone here. You can get a “Hidden Disability” tag from ebay here and an “exempt” card with lanyard for just £1.99 from Etsy here. And, finally, if you feel obliged to wear a mask but want to signal your disapproval of having to do so, you can get a “sexy world” mask with the Swedish flag on it here.
Don’t forget to sign the petition on the UK Government’s petitions website calling for an end to mandatory face masks in shops here.
A reader has started a website that contains some useful guidance about how you can claim legal exemption.
If you’re a shop owner and you want to let your customers know that you will not be insisting on face masks or asking them what their reasons for exemption are, you can download a friendly sign to stick in your window here.
And here’s an excellent piece about the ineffectiveness of masks by a Roger W. Koops, who has a doctorate in organic chemistry.
Stop Press: Telegraph cartoonist Bob Moran has produced an illustrated thread on masks. It’s a must-read
Stop Press: Shakespeare was an anti-masker! A literary reader has sent us this verse from Venus and Adonis:
Long may they kiss each other, for this cure!
Venus and Adonis, 526 – 31
O, never let their crimson liveries wear!
And as they last, their verdure still endure,
To drive infection from the dangerous year!
That the star-gazers, having writ on death,
May say, the plague is banish’d by thy breath.
The Great Barrington Declaration
The Great Barrington Declaration, a petition started by Professor Martin Kulldorff, Professor Sunetra Gupta and Professor Jay Bhattacharya calling for a strategy of “Focused Protection” (protect the elderly and the vulnerable and let everyone else get on with life), was launched last month and the lockdown zealots have been doing their best to discredit it ever since. If you Googled it a week after launch, the top hits were three smear pieces from the Guardian, including: “Herd immunity letter signed by fake experts including ‘Dr Johnny Bananas’.” (Freddie Sayers at UnHerd warned us about this the day before it appeared.) On the bright side, Google UK has stopped shadow banning it, so the actual Declaration now tops the search results – and Toby’s Spectator piece about the attempt to suppress it is among the top hits – although discussion of it has been censored by Reddit. The reason the zealots hate it, of course, is that it gives the lie to their claim that “the science” only supports their strategy. These three scientists are every bit as eminent – more eminent – than the pro-lockdown fanatics so expect no let up in the attacks. (Wikipedia has also done a smear job.)
You can find it here. Please sign it. Now approaching 700,000 signatures.
Update: The authors of the GDB have expanded the FAQs to deal with some of the arguments and smears that have been made against their proposal. Worth reading in full.
Update 2: Many of the signatories of the Great Barrington Declaration are involved with new UK anti-lockdown campaign Recovery. Find out more and join here.
Update 3: You can watch Sunetra Gupta set out the case for “Focused Protection” here and Jay Bhattacharya make it here.
Update 4: The three GBD authors plus Prof Carl Heneghan of CEBM have launched a new website collateralglobal.org, “a global repository for research into the collateral effects of the COVID-19 lockdown measures”.
Judicial Reviews Against the Government
There are now so many JRs being brought against the Government and its ministers, we thought we’d include them all in one place down here.
First, there’s the Simon Dolan case. You can see all the latest updates and contribute to that cause here.
Then there’s the Robin Tilbrook case. You can read about that and contribute here.
Then there’s John’s Campaign which is focused specifically on care homes. Find out more about that here.
There’s the GoodLawProject’s Judicial Review of the Government’s award of lucrative PPE contracts to various private companies. You can find out more about that here and contribute to the crowdfunder here.
The Night Time Industries Association has instructed lawyers to JR any further restrictions on restaurants, pubs and bars.
And last but not least there’s the Free Speech Union‘s challenge to Ofcom over its ‘coronavirus guidance’. You can read about that and make a donation here.
Stop Press: The GoodLawProject has announced that it is filing for Judicial Review over the Government’s recruitment of friends and acquaintances to lead key public health bodies. Read more here.
Samaritans
If you are struggling to cope, please call Samaritans for free on 116 123 (UK and ROI), email jo@samaritans.org or visit the Samaritans website to find details of your nearest branch. Samaritans is available round the clock, every single day of the year, providing a safe place for anyone struggling to cope, whoever they are, however they feel, whatever life has done to them.
Quotation Corner
It’s easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.
Mark Twain
Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, one by one.
Charles Mackay
They who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.
Benjamin Franklin
To do evil a human being must first of all believe that what he’s doing is good, or else that it’s a well-considered act in conformity with natural law. Fortunately, it is in the nature of the human being to seek a justification for his actions…
Ideology – that is what gives the evildoing its long-sought justification and gives the evildoer the necessary steadfastness and determination.
Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
No lesson seems to be so deeply inculcated by the experience of life as that you never should trust experts. If you believe the doctors, nothing is wholesome: if you believe the theologians, nothing is innocent: if you believe the soldiers, nothing is safe. They all require to have their strong wine diluted by a very large admixture of insipid common sense.
Robert Gascoyne-Cecil, 3rd Marquess of Salisbury
Nothing would be more fatal than for the Government of States to get into the hands of experts. Expert knowledge is limited knowledge and the unlimited ignorance of the plain man, who knows where it hurts, is a safer guide than any rigorous direction of a specialist.
Sir Winston Churchill
If it disagrees with experiment, it’s wrong. In that simple statement is the key to science.
Richard Feynman
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
C.S. Lewis
The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants.
Albert Camus
We’ve arranged a global civilization in which most crucial elements profoundly depend on science and technology. We have also arranged things so that almost no one understands science and technology. This is a prescription for disaster. We might get away with it for a while, but sooner or later this combustible mixture of ignorance and power is going to blow up in our faces.
Carl Sagan
Political language – and with variations this is true of all political parties, from Conservatives to Anarchists – is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind.
George Orwell
The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane.
Marcus Aurelius
Necessity is the plea for every restriction of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.
William Pitt the Younger
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Chistingles seems to have been popular in late 19thC Germany, a childs tapered candle.
Resurging around the turn of this century I think as a way of expressing chrissmassy feelings but without the Mass which might sound a bit religious as though people know what Christ Mass means any more than Holy Day.
My local council tried Winterval on us a few years ago but have since returned to Happy Christmas with their holiday street lights.
I seem to remember that it was the Effnick Minorities, supposedly offended by Christmas, who called for its reinstatement?
It was white liberal guilt trippers presuming to speak on behalf of minorities many of whom love Christmas.
See pictures of Dubai airport during the festive season (but perhaps not this year).
I wonder if those white liberal guilt trippers ever get surprised by finding out there are rather a lot of black and brown Christians in the world, including 22 million in India alone, the third largest religion in the country. Probably not.
Yes it seems to have become a cult in its own right. One of the weirdest things about the church is that it will do anything to distract people from worshipping Jesus, its supposed reason for existing – e.g., Mary, saints, Easter bunnies, communion wafers etc. Christingle is just another method for a minister to get out of having to do the really embarrassing stuff like praying.
Because it’s an infantilised version.
It is a lovely service, the only one I used to attend every year. Vicar/Rev. used to sit all the children around him and make it an intimate service.
Here’s how anti-lockdowners are described in the latest Economist, so that you know what the ‘Managerial Class’ is being told. They describe the crowds at the protests in Stroud as an example. This of course also describes Gupta, Battacharya, Kulldorf and all the other GBD people: ‘Cranks and Conservatives’, ‘Big government opposers’, ‘Covid19 deniers’, ‘raging conspiracy theorists’, ‘far right activists’, ‘science deniers’, ‘Piers Corbyn climate change denier’ and ‘adherents to QANON’. Equates the protests with XR and BLM – people who simply need protests to feel important. I guess all the signatories to the GBD are science denying scientists too.
Complete horseshit. Obviously.
They say “big government opposers” like that’s a bad thing…
It will be a bad thing when we succeed in overturning all their power.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lncr2g9XJHU
Led Zeppelin
The days when Rock & Roll ruled your soul.
PCR=PHONY CORONA RESULTS.
Don’t get that.
Correction to your last suggested sentence
‘I guess all the signatories to the GBD are science denying ‘scientists’ too.
No suggestion as to where rational, logical analysers of the facts and data fits in to their list.
I found this in the Guardian, 11th Nov.
While purporting to be antisceptic it nevertheless outlines many of our arguments quite clearly.
I have seen several such articles and they remind me of concentration camp slave workers sabotaging the weapons they were forced to assemble.
That struck a massive chord with me at the time. Lots of hysterical ranting about conspiracy theories and then a calm deconstruction of the argument for muzzles, just tucked away inside!
Having one’s life destroyed by lockdown rules imposed by politicians (who have shares in Pharma and tech companies) is fine apparently. No human rights. Destruction of the economy, civil liberties, life as we knew it
I don’t see why it’s OK for innocent people to kept under house arrest for months and months for asymptomatic ‘cases’
Quote from thought to be from Gandhi
First they Ignore you
Then they Ridicule you
Then they Fight you
Then You Win
Currently we are in the late ridicule – early fight stage (depends on the local situation) – but we will win
Too right we will!
The Roman version with early Christianity
First they outlaw you.
Then they tolerate you.
Then they Celebrate you.
Then you are made compulsory.
We’re used to it. Muck from morons, who cares?
The problem is we have forgotten how to protest. We have all thrown away our torches and pitchforks as we mistakenly believed we lived in a democracy. BLM can get 30,000 to a march and chase the rozzers up the Mall. We end up jumping into bed with Piers gang because we cannot organise anything and end up getting beat up by the TSG. So many people I speak to want to protest but they have no way of knowing when a march or bout of saucepans banging will be going on as the MSM won’t play with us.
They forgot to mention the ‘flat earthers!” And ‘those that believe Elvis lives on the dark side of the moon!’ I borrowed that from the brilliant Mark Windows, whose excellent Windows on the World website and radio shows are full of information, and well worth your time.
In your links, you refer to “Stanford” as “Stamford”. Probably should fix that.
I hope Stamford, too, is against Covviebollox, but I doubt it. It’s a beautiful, prosperous town, but for that very reason likely to be full of
bedwettersthe horizontally inadvertently incontinent.I for one will be ignoring our unsavoury governments childlike yet facist restrictions up to, during and after Christmas.
As an only child Xmas day meant me with mum and dad so no change there.
Aged 14 or 15 I met up with a local mate after The Queens Speech to wander the deserted North London streets until we found an open Turkish cafe which sold us a bottle of red wine to be drunk in the locked shut park.
Late teens and early twenties Xmas late afternoon evening meant twenty or so closest friends only congregating at whoever had the biggest flat at the time, mixture of singletons and couples. Alcohol only, we didn’t do drugs.
I have no doubt that we would do exactly the same this year so a pox on your 3 household Christmas johnson.
Actually we would probably do similar every night if the pub was closed or made miserable by anti-social distancing.
Christmas has always been bloody miserable in my family. Singing in carol services and concerts has always been the only part of it that I enjoyed. I’m quite looking forward to not spending three hours on the A1 to be harangued by my mother while she throws various food items out of the window.
Lol!
You are impressively eloquent for this time in the morning, NN! (stifles yawn and blinks with admiration ).
I can see why you stayed, but Northumbria is the poorer without you.
It’s for mummies and kiddiewinkies, not grown-ups. Probably appeals to Welbybaby as it’s about on his intellectual level.
BTW, did you know that Welbybaby is planning to take a four-month sabbatical? Evidently the strain of being the worst archbishop in the history of the Anglican, and probably the entire Christian, church is getting to him.
It is probably the most challenging spiritual concept that Oberfuhrer Johnson can get his befuddled head around. Did you see him on TV? he looked like the living dead, on his zooom call to Parliament he managed to press the mute button, it was like a zoom call to a demented grandad in a care home. Good to know the Country is in such safe hands!
Uber. Like ubermensch. Overman, not Superman. Which Boring Boris certainly is not.
Tim Stanleý gave Welby a good kicking in the Telegraph yesterday for skiving off in a time of lockdown induced crisis and the CofE for about everything.
Ends with a great piece on travelling through London with a mask. Not scared of the Covid but of the State.
I really don’t know how Welby can call himself a man of God.
He’s just trying to avoid jail – like the previous pope chap.
So the Astra-Zeneca jab works better the lower the dose?
That’s how homeopathy works. Hence the joke about the man who forgot to take his homeopathic remedy and died of an overdose.
So anybody who refuses the A-Z vaccine will presumably get the maximum dose and an instant freedom pass. Whoopee.
We need a good Snake Oil salesman to peddle distilled water as the new wonder vaccine everyone could have a shot be happy and carry on. Maybe a new career opening for Trump?
If life carries on on the trajectory it’s going, I’d rather take the type of dose offered at Dignitas, Switzerland – thank you very much
A future dystopian police state defined by fear, control and poverty. The unvaccinated demonised like Jews in Nazi Germany by a fascistic mainstream media – no thanks
They keep the fact hidden now but both the Queen and her mother (lived to be over 100) always did/do use homeopathic remedies. I consulted a homeopathic practitioner once and found it very helpful – and it had a very definite physical effect. But it was bloody expensive!
The pig dictator is holed up in The Ministry of Truth despite having had the flu and testing negative for the flu
Greater love hath no man
Rutherford and Aaronson were most probably vaporised shortly after Cummings and Cain left
I wanted to hear from the PD yesterday ( no not really I just made that bit up), however it would appear The Princess Nut Nuts is hogging the remote control
Quantas are scum!
This is hardly surprising though. Once a government owns you you are at their mercy. Like the mob.
But this is all a conspiracy though right?
Trips to Australia were once free ( well in one sense anyway)
One-way trips.
No your confusing it with LSD
Except that you were sprayed with DDT on arrival!
Except that you were sprayed with DDT on arrival!
I well remember – back in 1984 – the Quaint Arse (Qantas, geddit!) stewards walking up and down the aisles of the 747, which had just transported me round the world, spraying the cabin with ginormous cans of some sort of insecticide. What a nice way to “greet” people who were intending to spend money in their country. And that was before I got to immigration control…
Most vaccine requirements are set by governments to allow access to their countries, it is not the job of airlines to dictate they are required for travel on their planes (only to check that the passenger has the correct vaccines for entry to their destination country).
Qantas!
Storm the BBC!
There was an orthodox Jewish wedding in Brooklyn on 8 November referred to on this page yesterday. This was not just any wedding but the daughter of the Rebbe (the head of the whole congregation). A fairly unbelievable 7,500 are said to have attended, and even if it wasn’t this many there were a huge number of people. Indoors, no masks, singing. Now this is not the only one. A typically ridiculous response to a typically stupid article in the NYT yesterday referred to a cousin’s chasidic wedding 6 weeks ago. So presumably the death rate from COVID in the areas where these weddings are must be huge ? Although it’s a bit soon for the big one, others go on all the time. Well, in Kensington (NY) and Williamsburg, the centre of Satmar life in NY, the death rate for the last 7 days was 0.1 and 0.2 per 100,000, that’s the equivalent of 9.5 and 19 per day adjusted to the UK population. Can somebody please explain why there are people out there who can’t see community immunity when it’s so blindingly obvious. Boris and his merry bunch of clowns can’t see the evidence even when it hits… Read more »
They can it that doesn’t help The Agenda, does it.
Gov’t diktats are the opposite of what they should be. People with healthy immune systems mixing, getting infected, developing immunity is what used to happen
Freshers Week was a rights of passage for students getting colds and flu. There is a cultural history of sharing infections in communities to develop natural immunity
It used to be meningitis that was the main fear from the sudden mixing at Freshers Week. Now that can be seriously dangerous – but noone got hysterical about it.
Freshers are vaccinated now before heading to uni. One or two died every year at the beginning of term.
Yes. You’re right. Meningitis is deadly. It should be taken seriously
My comment was framed in the context of cold and flu
Do you remember in summer when thousands flocked to the beach and all the muggles were screaming how they should be denied hospital care and how granny will be killed. OMG the horror, the body bags when… oh, two people died. The evidence is overwhelming but totally ignored by handjob and the chuckle brothers. But that’s the problem with a lie to keep it going the lies get bigger and bigger and more stupid.
Bojo is going to sell us down the river on Brexit so he’s hiding in his bunker like the coward he really is. Someone should give him a loaded pistol and tell him to do the right thing!
AFAIK, the New York orthodox community is the core customer base for Dr Zelensky of Zelensky protocol fame that the medical establishment have memory holed, since he proved a successful treatment back in March.
Strength in number.
I am pleased to see half a dozen letters in the Telegraph hostile towards the pub plans. I can only hope, for the sake of the English pub, that MPs manage to get Princess Nut Nut to change her mind on this issue as, by the end of March, there won’t be any pubs left.
I wonder if any Grauniad readers ever crawl out of bed, get out of their wet pyjamas and go to a pub?
I doubt it and the way Guardian readers exist, if they don’t do something, they think it is “wrong” and should, therefore, be banned.
A Macdonalds manager tells me that Deliveroo riders are queuing up at 07.00 to whisk skinny lattes to opulent addresses where they help those comfortably WFH to start their day.
Is there such a thing as a Guardian reader anymore? The publication has betrayed everyone of its principles and I can’t think of anyone who might read it anymore other than lefty members of staff at GCHQ.
Hasn’t the company got a huge trust fund keeping it going as the numbers of readers can’t support the cost of it?
I believe it is subsidised by the profits of Autotrader plus multiple subscriptions from the BBC and academia plus recruitment advertising from the woke ruled* public sector.
*not having a go at Public Sector workers.
Supplemented by Gates.
Thanks PI. Surely everyone should know this by now !
Not here there isn’t. Used to be a supporter, but their coverage of The Virus has been a joke, so no longer. Don’t think they’ll miss me though…as mentioned, they’re sitting pretty in funds.
CCHQ, more like
Very very true Londo. I was a regular reader until the angle grinder episode after the Snowdon reveal.
Monbiot once again revealing his true colours yesterday in shilling for the pharmaceuticals.
Cheers
Simon
I used to read them but stopped because of their obsession with victimhood status and their pathological obsession and dislike of America. At some point I thought they had relocated to the USA.
There still are – tend to live in areas such as Islington, Hampstead, Highgate where they are insulated from the consequences of what they advocate.
At the start of the scamdemic I switched to watching RT. I have suddenly learnt that places exist in the World, that are not the UK, US or France.
I stopped reading it because of its support for ‘gender’ ideology and victimisation of Suzanne Moore, who has now resigned. Then there was Owen Jones and his crawling to the appalling, anti semitic ‘Corbyn project’, and the obsession with BLM, as well as the sanctimonious pontificating of the ghastly Monbiot man.
And don’t forget that the founder of the Manchester Guardian made his money from a cotton plantation run on slave labour!
Something they like to ignore. Oh and they avoid paying their fair share of tax too. As much as I loathe Jeff Bezos, the Graun aren’t exactly clean when it comes to tax as well.
That surely is reason enough for it to change its name – perhaps to The Collaborator – and then defund itself, giving all its money to BLM.
I reckon it’s actually written by Armando Ianucci or someone of similar wit as a very clever parody.
Guardian takeover.
That’s the plan; no pubs. Places where people can meet and discuss things are always forbidden in dictatorships…which is where we are headed.
Er…about air travel and vaccines- let’s not get swept away by the anti-vaxx brigade, please. When I was a lad we lived in Indonesia and Oman and every time we traveled by air back to and from London we had our passports and our yellow vaccination card showing dates of last smallpox, polio and TB vaccinations. This was – and is – completely normal so I don’t see why people are getting in a flap about countries and/or airlines requiring passengers to be vaccinated against Covid19. It’s not the plague but it’s nasty nevertheless. Let’s focus on ending these ludicrous lockdowns and mask wearing. I have been speaking to a lot of people recently about this and sadly most are still completely sunk in the covidthink mindset.
I agree with you about focusing on the lockdowns and mask wearing. However, it’s not “anti-vaxx” to be wary of a rushed vaccine, let alone one (or rather two) that make use of a completely untried technology.
100% agreed. The term “anti-vaxxer” is equivalent to “conpiracy theorist” – it’s aim is to shut down discussion.
What a ludicrous statement. First off, the diseases you named are far more serious that c19. Also, none of them are required for a UK person to fly anywhere.
Quantas were also looking to apply it to internal flights as well as international.
No one is required to show they haven’t got a common cold/flu and those can be deadly, especially in tepid climates.
You wish to focus on lockdowns and masks solely? The vaccinations are an extension of this draconian agenda. So it is all needing fought and conquered. One beats the other.
The vaccine isn’t an extension of the lockdown, it’s the end goal of the lockdown. Crush society sufficiently, it’ll willingly roll up its sleeve and beg to be jabbed.
“…until a vaccine is found…” – the coda since day 1.
“…until a vaccine is found…” – the coda since day 1.
Needs to be rammed home.
Not just one vaccine. Once we have a digital health passport, they can come up with a never-ending series of vaccinations that we “need”.
There were (are?) some countries required a yellow fever vaccination as a precondition to entry, but obviously that’s not most countries. It’s also worth pointing out that the vaccines you get for travel to exotic climes last at least a decade (twenty years for a hep jap if you have a booster) – from what we know of the Covid jab you’d be expected to have it at least annually, which obviously means that any risk is increased.
I assume that Qantas can get away with this policy because they have a strangehold on the Australian market. Without a government mandate, I expect the more competitive markets of Europe and the USA to be warier about following suit.
At least one company is pushing back – https://twitter.com/uktwinds
That’s what we want to see – the free market in action.
Looks like there’s pushback from a number of sources now.
No they are not required any more, and the diseases were more serious, but my point is that it’s not some new conspiracy plot for an airline to require vaccination certificates, it used to be standard procedure – unlike lockdown and mask wearing, which were copied lock stock and barrel from China, a viciously totalitarian communist country beneath its sparkly capitalist sheen.
Was it the airlines or was it the destination countries?
Destination countries I believe.
New for an airline, as opposed to a country, to require them. Unless I’ve missed something.
Smallpox, polio and TB vaccinations: tried, tested and proven to be effective without long term side effects.
COVID-19 vaccination: untried, barely tested and no proof of being effective without long term side effects.
I’m on a very expensive drug that took around 10 years to be brought to market because of the stringent safety protocols on a novel drug. Think of the c19 vaccine as a completely novel drug brought to market in a matter of months! The problem with the ‘vaccine’ definition is that it raises the ‘straw man’ anti vax (conspiracy) label. If the government is, as we know, expecting a ‘high volume’ of adverse drug reactions (ADR’s) from the c19 vaccine (a novel drug), who would take the risk of what might be a serious irreversible drug reaction when you’re over 99% likely to survive an Infection from c19?
Good question. But I think if I was a nurse or a care worker exposed to large numbers of genuinely sick people every day I wouldn’t hesitate to be vaccinated if it offers 90-95% protection. As for the rest of us, as you say, I’d rather take my chances until more is known.
However, we are now 9 months down the line, so if a health worker has been exposed for thisclength of time, I would guess they have pretty much robust immunity to the virus.
Would you mind translating into English ? Not trying to be silly, it is capable of several different interpretations.
Hi John – I was meaning that the ’anti vax’ label is the the ‘straw man’ often used to attack those who have legitimate concerns around a completely novel vaccine which has unusually short testing protocols and is being fast tracked.
This linguistic device which mis-characterises an opponent’s argument and then attacks the mis-characterisation is used all the by politicians and is easy to spot!
A vaccine rushed through in record time tied to a digital/health passport without which you are a second class citizen.I think it’s right to be angry and masks/ lockdowns are measures to push you towards a vaccine.
Not all vaccines are the same and some of the new ones are a very different and new technology compared to any vaccines we have had before. I knew people at school who had had polio and still know adults who had Polio as a child it is a horrible disease and I am glad i was protected by a vaccine but be in no doubt the introduction of the Polio vaccine was not trouble free, there were problems and contaminated batches. Consequently it is entirely reasonable to have a least some caution regarding these new style vaccines that have been rushed through at such a lightning speed.
In the end I may well need a vaccination for international travel but I have no intention of being first in the queue!
Track and trace, lockdowns, masks, quarantines and vaccines all go together. It is unprecedented to need to prove your health status to attend public places, large social events – even work, school possibly. This is different from the old vaccination cards you mention. Technology is now at the forefront of medical surveillance and brings with it valid concerns about privacy and control that were just not possible when you were young.
Oh I totally agree Marialta, demanding vaccination for work, school, or anything within the UK is totally unacceptable.
The South Korean system is based on analysing peoples’ mobile phone records and bank statements to determine who they have been in contact with. Horrific.
I am firmly in the anti vaxx brigade. Taking a totally new technology vaccine, never been tried before and has had no time to be trialled in the population, just a few months..For a disease that everybody has a 98.7% chance of NOT dying from. The need to prove you are not “ill” with a common cold before you can do anything at all.
A vaccine that will not confer immunity or indeed stop interpersonal transmission just reduce the symptoms, probably less well than a paracetamol or some lem-sip.
Fuck off with that.
“A vaccine that will not confer immunity or indeed stop interpersonal transmission just reduce the symptoms” – do you have a source for that information? SIncere question, I am interested to know why you say that.
IIRC, every time vaccine results are published, they never say anything about transmission or immunity. The goal of the vaccine is however, stated – to reduce the severity of symptoms.
I agree with you 100% – I will not take this vaccine – they would have to forcibly hold me down first. The fundamental reason for this is that it is absolutely NOT NEEDED. This so-called ‘dangerous’ virus is nothing of the kind and 99+% have nothing to fear from it, with the vast majority experiencing mild or zero ill effects because they have immune systems capable of efficiently fighting infections. We simply do not need a vaccine, just as we do not need masks, social distancing, repeated hand wiping with alcohol, and all the rest of this horseshit. Enough already!
why the fuck would any sane person want to inject dead babies into themselves?
i’m not a cannibal
That BoB thread is so fantastic, I sent it to a dozen or so friends/family.
It’s one of the best things I’ve seen this year. Superb.
I have put Bob’s cartoons and text into a draft leaflet. You can download the .docx and .pages files here:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/fp5kii5vaa1jw7v/AACGXIRD2mwoarDXLvi4utsca?dl=0
I just watch this video published by Ivor Cummins. It’s inspirational…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyDsjHZHsGc
I’m wondering if there are people here who would like to get together for an online chat to discuss ways in which we could begin to sow seeds of doubt in the general public to turn this mess around. Come up with some guerilla tactics that each of us could carry out wherever we happen to live.
First thing is to obviously talk to those around us, but how do we broach the subject without getting their defenses up. I know I’ve annoyed some of my co-workers with my approach :-).
I’m also thinking things like putting signs up (which will undoubtedly be taken down quickly, but still, we could just as easily replace them) with the real stats, visual images showing lockdown are bollocks etc.
Let’s shift this thing!
Yes please: count me in OP.
And me.
Can you set up a contact email address? A temporary one might be a good idea.
I’m in. Live in south west France. Several French friends are enlightened but most still believe in this lockdown crap. One musician I know is happy to not work for a year because he thinks it means his mother will live to see her grandchildren. He seems to have missed a minor detail of lockdowns there.
Can someone set up a LS zoom call? I’d dial in! Let’s make it regular. Let’s invite people to join and bring their brainwashed friends and family! Maybe hearing articulate, rational people talk about this could help.
I’m in too. BJ has mentioned the spring (6 months) for getting back to normal but to me that means at least a year.
So we do need a long term plan. We surely can’t go on like this for another year. There’s a risk that regulars get stuck on reading 1000+ comments daily and not move on into some other strategy. Many of us are distributing leaflets, stickers, converting as many as we can, but the sum total knowledge of everyone on here is so impressive I think we could develop something online. I like the idea of using Zoom to invite our family and friends, but it would need to be organised carefully.
It’s easy to set up LS, but you need people’s emails in order to invite them.
I’ve joined some open zoom calls. You publish the link then people sign up using an email
I wonder whether you could gather all the online sceptics together to try and expand the pool. Gamers and film reviewers on youtube like the critical drinker have a streamed gathering for about five or six popular guys where they discuss a film or game. This get thousands of hits and shares as each youtuber brings their own audience. Then normally they would sub the youtuber they might not have heard of. Probably cant be held on youtube but bitchute maybe.
Yes please.
sounds good! i’d be interested.
I generally wait for a stranger to start The Conversation, drop a couple of sceptic hints and by and large they already agree.
I believe people think it is socially unacceptable to be a covid or lockdown denier and don’t want to start a conversation with wrongtalk.
“Isn’t the Covid terrible !?”
‘Well there are one or two people dying at the hospital every day. . . which is the same as most years for respiratory conditions’.
“Where did you hear that?”
‘From the governments own website, the ONS’
and away you go. My favourite screenshot at the moment is a graphic showing hospital bed occupancy lower than usual.
I know people making badges/stickers that will identify you as normal (unbrainwashed). Can you imagine the joy of finding and hugging a fellow human being!
Can I get one of these badges? I’m of course prepared to pay!
Half the human population is infected with H-Pylori which causes stomach cancer. Why the Covid Cabal didn’t use that to enslave the world instead, I don’t know
Two thirds have one or other herpes virus in their body… under stress this can lead to shingles, which can be deadly. No herpes vaccine yet. Hmm…
I took Valtrex tablets for about 3 weeks. Powerful stuff. Long, sustained withdrawal symptoms.
I guess because there would be the risk that a vaccine that might actually help reduce death and suffering in the world might be found and that just would not do.
It’s more difficult to pronounce. Doesn’t roll off the tongue.
We need to separate ourselves from the people being labelled conspiracy theorists and anti-vaxxers. If we say:
1. Conspiracy Theories are Harmful
2. Some vaccines are life saving so anti-vaxxers are harmful.
3. Safe vaccines takes years to be proved safe.
4. But we don’t need a vaccine for a virus with a 99.96% survival rate.
5. “Long covid” is exact same symptoms as Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (different name)
6. Look at your face after long term mask wearing and imagine that on your lungs.
7. Suppression of information is dangerous
Etc.
And most crucially, nudging people to start asking what a ‘case’ is. Our lives are being destroyed not for hospitalisations or deaths but for cases, and most asymptomatic
Exactly. Conspiracy theories are not helpful to the cause of those who are sceptical of government policy and believe that the ‘cure’ is more damaging than the disease. The question I ask is whether they know of anyone who has died ‘of’ Covid who didn’t catch it in a hospital or care home or from someone who worked in one. They never do.
“Conspiracy theorist “…is a term coined by Allen Dulles CIA the director in the 1960’s to describe people trying to expose the truth.
That’s a matter of opinion. One begs to differ.
Any evidence that David Icke is an anti-semite yet ?
Go to a lab with a well used mask, analyze it and take a photo of all the germs crawling about. Then send it to all and sundry.
Given that CTs and AVs are virtually 100% aware of and opposed to the current tyranny, and therefore allies, this appears to be doing the bad guys’ job for them.
That Daily Mail article had a good visual which can be used. And that thread from Bob Moran using his cartoons could be good starting points as well.
I have put Bob’s cartoons and text into a draft leaflet. You can download the .docx and .pages files here:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/fp5kii5vaa1jw7v/AACGXIRD2mwoarDXLvi4utsca?dl=0
That’s fantastic. Thanks a lot!!
And me!
Yes, yes, yes indeed. We need several thousand people involved to make a difference, although it could well snowball.
I mentioned yesterday that, since Sunday, the sticker on my car:
STOP
COVID
TYRANNY
NOW
had drawn some interest of passers by and I had been able to school one of them.
Below the slogan I have the UKColumn link.
Perhaps we should not expose our links? Keep everything anonymous.
Yeah..I’m in!
To all who are interested, I’ve set up a google spreadsheet for you to enter your email addres so we can set up an online meeting…
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FTKBIIxSA3gr92shjqnGQQKtaGv2JbsEfPQQZR7H2Xk/edit?usp=sharing
This is an open shared link for the moment, so hopefully it doesn’t get spammed. If anyone can think of a better way to do this, please let me know.
Once there’s a decent list of people, we can figure out a good time to chat that works for most people.
I’m interested. For some reason, people seem to generally believe everything I say, and I’m not even working in a soul destroying sales job. I have some art skills, so inclined to go round putting up my ‘improved’ versions of the nag posters on the streets.
Here’s another one for the ‘lessons learned’ section of the independent public inquiry: ‘One of the lasting images of the first wave of Covid is of the weekly “clap for carers” – that moment of national unity that took place on doorsteps at 20:00 every Thursday night. Health care workers have been very appreciative of public support, but many say they would prefer a proper pay settlement to another round of applause. And Jo Billings, a psychologist from the Covid trauma response working group at University College London, says “the narrative of health care workers being heroes or angels has largely been really unhelpful.” It painted a picture that people do this because they’re special, not because they’re simply doing their job, for which they should be adequately paid and protected. “It’s also been a real barrier to people seeking help with their own problems,” Dr Billings says, “because they feel heroes don’t struggle. An angel doesn’t get PTSD.” https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/explainers-54623919 This country is currently being governed by the NHS, something that has been a long time in the making. The result? An entirely predictable monumental disaster, just like every other massive NHS project. If one thing comes out of this total… Read more »
“by attributing overimportance to praiseworthy actions one may, by implication, be paying indirect but potent homage to the worse side of human nature. For this attitude implies that such actions shine out as rare exceptions, while callousness and apathy are the general rule”
Well…?
– quote from Albert Camus
‘And shall I name one who hath been in our age, and wish him now to live to cure so great a canker? Would God England had a Cromwell: I will say no more.’
Thomas Wilson, Discourse on Usury (1571), p. 182.
Global Public Health, not the NHS.
Quick survey: Do you actually know someone (directly, not a friend of a friend or colleague) who has either been hospitalized with and/or died of Covid-19?
I don’t. And I can only think of one person, who knows someone in Peru whose mother died of it.
No
Brother in law and family caught it, OK now.
Wife’s friend’s son hospitalised: OK now.
No, I only know of a few cases via health and care workers. The only deaths reported by them were falsely attributed to Covid.
I don’t know anyone who’s had it
3 people in hospital (all survived, including one with late stage cancer) and my friend Rob’s 92 year Auntie did die with Covid. Rob was upset at not being able to go to the funeral as he was close to her but philosophical
A few others were moderately ill but not needing hospitalisation
While it is a bad disease, it is in no way worth wrecking society for. We had coped a lot better in the past
Just for context – two friends , a work colleague of over 20 years and a fellow volunteer at a charity , both in their late 50’s / early 60’s died of cancer over the lockdown period (the cancers were not survivable so I am not blaming lockdown in this case) – watching funerals over zoom was pretty shitty
I also know of several folk with postponed operations and other treatments and the teenage son of a mate who has had a mental health crisis (but is pulling through)
Also for context, I don’t know anyone who has had Covid-19 but I have 3 friends, all in their 50s, who are currently being treated for cancer. My husband was also in his 50s when he died from cancer. For someone my age, cancer is a far bigger risk!
Covid-19 is an event that is being ruthlessly exploited.
PFIZER/MODERNA MRNA VACCINE: “YOUR OWN CELLS BECOME THE VIRUS” IMMUNOLOGIST; SIEGE OF HEAVEN READER on Vimeo
This David Halpin pulling no punches 20:30 minutes in, but have not found his web site. I think this may well be his web site. David Halpin (infoaction.org.uk).
No. I now know 2 health workers who have had it. It sounded very unpleasant and quite long lasting but no hospitalisation.
I don’t even know friends of friends who have died but I do know of 3 suicides in that sphere not counting the dreadful stories we read on here.
I had flu in 2018, and felt terrible, but the freedom that came with that time seems like paradise compared to what’s happening now. I wish I could turn the clock back
Jamie, what time of the year did you have the flu?
I ask because my wife and I went down with flu on the 2nd of December that year and we were really Ill, we both lost half a stone and I remember on the 9th of December (my 70th birthday) I struggled to get out of bed and stand up.
Luckily by around the 22nd of that month, we both began to feel a lot better and by Christmas we were OK.
Not at any time did either of us think that it was anything other than the “Flu”.
If ordinary people like us and yourself along with our fellow sceptics know this, why has our government, etc panicked?
My son lives with us. He went to Birmingham motor show last November. Thousands of people from all over the world were there. A couple of weeks later he felt unwell enough to visit the GP. Subsequently, I was under par with headaches (never normally get them) and cough that lasted a month or so. Staying clear of tests.
It was about the same time
Our next door neighbour thinks he had it in April – cough/loss of taste and smell etc.. He is in the vulnerable category so was isolating anyway. Well, sort of. Anyway, on day 8 he was off out shopping, so terrible was his brush with death. So to answer your question – no.
Yes my friend is now a widow. He was 59. I had it in April, just stayed out of hospital thanks to a Covid task force emergency visit, and am not yet recovered. I have no underlying conditions and was a national level racing cyclist.
No.
No
No. And I’ve been going round swabbing people since mid-May.
I heard of someone through a surgeon friend who died of heart complications related cancer but got Covid on the death certificate. Does that count?
Yeah but no but yeah but no as Boris Jo..sorry, Matt Lucas used to say. I would say no.
No. But know of two suicides and one attempted suicide of a 15-year-old. And perfectly healthy people with suicidal thoughts. The point is… covid is nasty, can cause long-term health problems and can be fatal to those with serious underlying health issues. Lockdowns kill randomly… completely healthy people, some at the start of their adult lives. And covid threat will lessen dramatically in severity as time goes on, as every coronavirus and rhinovirus does. Our children and children’s children will be paying for this bullshit (tests, masks, vaccines, plexiglass, mental health issues, etc.) for hundreds of years. You don’t kill a poisonous spider with a nuclear bomb.
A friend’s father died of it. He was 59 with no known underlying conditions, apparently. Although he caught it during lockdown, so that obviously didn’t save him.
My nephew currently has it, caught from his nurse wife who is now better. An asthmatic, although a fit 30 year old, he has an oxygen monitor which has recorded dangerously low levels on a few occasions but he is determined to stay out of hospital.
I am still convinced that I had it myself very early on. A week long fever, preceded by sickness and followed by fatigue and high breathing (I’m a singer so normally breathe very low) No ‘cold’ symptoms at all. As a slightly overweight 60 year old woman, I’m absolutely fine now, though I’d be fitter if the gym was open!
Yes. Father in law and his partner, latter in hospital on oxygen. Both still feeling effects, though on balance getting better over time. They became ill three weeks into LD1, for context.
Covid can be unpleasant. But the government response is in my view both ineffective and disproportionate. It is huge pain for no gain. The rona is a cold virus. It will get through, unless you actually wrap yourself in clingfilm – and even that will save you from the rona only by killing you. The huge pain and destruction caused by lockdown does not help those who have suffered from Covid, which is not to deny that their suffering from Covid is real and significant.
“Government” response was to deny people safe, effective, cheap Hydroxychloroquine treatments.
I had an old friend who was in his 80’s. He died in a nursing home ‘of Covid’ in the spring. So presumably he was part of the first wave.
Even IF 50,000 people died of C-19 in the UK, then that is just one in a thousand. How many people are in regular touch with 1000 others?
Over ten times as many die of something else.
No…but my 93 year old, holocausts survival gran had it..She was tested and everything. She was back on her feet 48 h later and in the shops 72 hours later. So deadly a diseases that an person who survived a concentration camp and is in the last years in her life is back to normal in 72h. She now says to me that this is all bullshit and the government are a bunch of liers
If your grandmother’s story is 100% fact and can be proven, it needs to be heard.
My daughter was not well in Feb, we were away on holiday. She felt hot and had some respiratory problems. Two days off work then back in. Of course that was before we knew about batflu. Other than that know of nobody who has had it.
Think I did in Feb. Persistent cough (rare for me to get a cough), flu like for 3 weeks. Like a nasty flu virus. I am in the vulnerable category, but with much rest and care I got over it.
I think I had it in April, Persistent dry hot cough in the upper chest, a slight temperature, things tasting crap, a bit achy, feeling a tiny bit peaky. It lasted for a few days and the cough stayed for about two weeks. The symptoms were very mild indeed. Almost not noticeable.That’s it.
Ok, late to this party….but, from a good authority at our local health centre, which covers a large part of South Leicestershire, as of a couple of weeks ago, there were no covid 19 patients on the books, and as of this week, the community nursing for the area had no more than 3 active covid19 patients. Can’t speak for the hospitals locally, though!
My cleaning lady’s Uncle died of it.A friend’s sister in law(whom I’ve met twice) was ill with it, but don’t know if she was in hospital.A blog buddy had a mild infection.
No. I don’t know anyone who’s had it
My father died of complications related to cancer treatment during the 1st lockdown, and was diagnosed as Covid positive after over a month in the hospital (ie he caught it there, despite all the insane measures in place including masks, gloves, disinfectant etc.). He spent 2 weeks isolated in the Covid ward but never showed any symptoms, despite being in a very weakened state from his illness. Given that he died shortly afterwards from kidney failure, I can’t imagine he really had Covid as he never experienced any respiratory troubles. So obviously an early ‘false positive’ from the fishy testing scheme.
I know a couple who really had Covid back in March and said it was like a bad flu, but they came out alright without needing to be hospitalized.
All other instances I’ve known of since are dubious ‘positive cases’ with zero symptoms, or at worst those of a classic cold.
No
I do. One of the early cases.
My then friend spent a week in a ski resort on the Italian/Austrian border in March.She was evacuated in the middle of the night along with the other guests when the authorities decided to close the resort.
She,and the rest of her family got sick. Two of them travelled on from Norwich back to Australia while sick. My friend ended up in the Norfolk and Norwich hospital very ill. Released having spent 7 days in hospital.
She is 69 and has no underlying health conditions.
Big article and photo of her looking glam appeared in the EDP shortly after.
She is one of a number of people attempting to bring a class action against the Austrian authorities. She was interviewed for the Times story on this.
As far as I know she is completely recovered.
Though sad to say our friendship has not survived our different stances – my concern for civil liberties offended her.
FACT: Covid will burn itself out sooner or later (government hope that it will be around Easter time).
FACT: Government will claim credit for beating virus by the measures taken, etc.
FACT: The sheep, collaborators and maskateers will believe and accept this.
FACT: WE KNOW THE TRUTH.
If they weren’t using PCR tests the virus would have burnt itself already.
So true, I love Ivor who calls it a casedemic
I know some will be angry enough they will not want to even consider looking at the “COVID-19 Winter Plan” but it has been published. All information, good, bad and indifferent needs to be available for examination by the public. I just skimmed it myself and it seems quite sketchy in details, per usual. As many have said, tier is just another word for lockdown.
Lockdown of millions of innocent, healthy people
Re: the Plan Did you notice that Sweden is omitted from the graph showing European death rates? Fishy?
Page 9
ConstantBees I would like to thank you again for your marvellous phrase
” I am in an abusive relationship with the government.
I have used it twice IRL to great effect.
Double standards. One rule for us, and one rule for politicians and people in powerful positions
Freedom Passes for us – Emma Kenny: ‘You just walked into a dictatorship’
https://twitter.com/emmakennytv/status/1330950106292613120?s=20
Head of WHO decides against having a test post quarantine because he felt fine and didn’t see the need for testing
https://youtu.be/ExXsQA5JpWw
Don’t believe him. Who were the witnesses?
Have we had this already? Apologies if so. There are so many graphs etc and I lose track.
No apology necessary, R. 🙂
Yes, we have had this one, but it’s one of those graphs that can’t be posted enough.
We’re not allowed to get herd immunity the natural way anymore. As we’ve done for hundreds of thousands of years
Instead we have to get it from a vial
Or they’re following orders, the same as every other country
A vile vial.
an evil, live vile vial.
Though it is clear, and has been for months, that getting immunity the natural way is safe (possibly safer) for most of us, while a vaccine is unlikely to work for many in ‘vulnerable’ groups. Hence the logic of the GBD.
It’s almost as if public health isn’t really the agenda.
It should be clear by now, to anyone with a still functioning brain, that the coming Covid-19 vaccines are an essential component of the depopulation agenda, that Bill Gates has been talking about for over ten years. You get vaccinated only at great peril.
To quote Diana West: “The issue is never the issue. The issue is always the Revolution.”
Dear Jamie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyDsjHZHsGc
From Ivor Cummins : “A must watch. I can say no more. You can support the corporate takeover of our society. Or you can support truth in science, and protect our future. The latter protect our society, over the actions of vandals. It is your choice. Make it wisely.”
This is surely one, if not the best video to share widely.
What’s coming in the vial is immunity from life.
The format of the typical service comes from The Children’s Society. Collections taken during Christingle services are normally sent to The Children’s Society. Perhaps there was pressure from the charity?
Which used to be called The Church Of England Children’s Society until they got ashamed of their own name.
A raver speaks:
“It’s a pity that residents in Primrose Hill claim that they can’t get to sleep. But there are some simple things they can do about this. The obvious solution is just to wear earplugs or earmuffs. If that doesn’t work then they could just sleep at a different time of the day because it probably doesn’t matter what time of day they sleep, due to the lockdown.”
That’s really funny. I thought for a moment I was looking at Viz Top Tips.
Indeed. Objects to having his lifestyle restricted, but doesn’t care about others.
I live in Primrose Hill and haven’t been kept awake by raves. However some days ago I was woken up by fireworks at 6.05am! You have always been able to buy your recreational drugs round here and it would seem that this trade has not been affected by the lockdowns. Otherwise life reasonably normal here, plenty of people around, people meeting. Shops that are open busy and very few masks in evidence now. The only other annoyance round here was the Police helicopter flying over Primrose Hill and Regents Park on Sunday morning for nearly an hour checking on crowds. What a spectacular waste of public money when the Police should be catching real criminals.
They could tell them; it’s only earplugs….
or it’s only a pair of earmuffs…
Hypothesis for the apparent contradiction for the AstraZeneca results.
A full dose is given to person A followed by a second full dose, person A develops nasty side effects. Trial halted.
Trial protocol changed to a single dose of vaccine followed by placebo. Minimal side effects reported. 60-70% effective
Person B is given 1/2 dose followed by second full dose. Minimal side effects reported. 90% effective.
They say that this was a serendipitous drug error. If I made a drug error of 50% under dose I don’t think that it would be long before the NMC had a fitness to practice hearing.
Please watch and share.
https://thewhiterose.uk/2020/11/09/the-vaccine-a-great-danger-and-this-is-why/
It doesn’t even matter if it is, or is not, a great danger. It is part of the PLAN and must be rejected.
“Universities remain open”. Lest we forget, this is a BIG FAT LIE. As I am sure most of us know, and some here are sadly enduring directly, universities are not open in any meaningful sense of the word. Teaching is mainly online, access to campuses is severely restricted as it university sports and social life. People in university accommodation are often subject to various forms of harrassment of doubtful legality. Shout it from the rooftops. The government has been given a free pass on this by the media.
Exactly and universities have been complicit in all this. I won’t be surprised if they will be inundated with law suits and court cases after this that will cause them to go bust from the multiple pay outs that they will have to make.
They deserve to go bust and yes from what I have heard they have made little or no effort to offer students a decent experience.
Absent commercial pressure such as some unis breaking ranks, or competition from much cheaper online-only providers, they will continue to treat students on campus as an inconvenience they can do without
They never did. I was an international student at Manchester University and always felt that I was there as a cash cow. Sure they made an effort to show us around and offer us experiences that I would have otherwise overlooked (such as visiting the Manchester United Museum for free) but otherwise they ignored issues such as homesickness and culture shock. The latter especially.
Well said. Apart from what you’ve said, students should also vote with their feet and wallets – boycott and allow the universities to go bust. They deserve everything they will get not only for treating students as an inconvience but also for their attempts to subvert the democratic process, their contempt for ordinary people and for prostituting themselves to unsavoury regimes and big business.
Of all the atrocities, dirty tactics, and nasty things done to people over the past 9 months, this is truly disgusting.
It was a good museum to be fair and I’m someone who’s not into football. I would never have visited it on my own especially being a poor student.
Indeed. I really despise what my university has done, especially the collaboration at every turn, very glad I’m in my last year.
Agree. I’m glad I’m no longer at university.
Same here. I made one mildly anti-lockdown comment on my university alumni facebook page, and got pounced on by some Coronanists (one of whom was a former NUS president, no surprise there, then).
They will be no loss.
The Student’s Union has a role here. They can coordinate mass legal action about reimbursement of fees.
Universities remain disingenuous, thieving, dystopian, tech controlled, inhumane prisons
When I was a chemistry student (long ago, Imperial) mornings were lectures or tutorials , most afternons practical work in the labs.
How do you practice a gravimetric analysis of a nickel iron alloy or a Claisen condensation over Zoom?
Me too! Well Biochemistry. Every afternoon in the lab apart from Wednesdays which was free for sport. How on earth you prepare samples, handle reagents,, study cultures, dissect etc online is beyond me.
Also, how on earth do medical students learn anatomy these days? Some of the older unis still do real dissection which I think is very important. How are this year’s cohort going to learn that?
Not just the sciences. Lots of things you can’t do in the arts and humanities on Zoom – group dancing, choral singing, playing in an orchestra, acting, researching primary historical sources, portrait painting, life drawing…
How people can think that we’re out of lockdown after 2 December baffles me. The government can dress it up how much it likes but its still a lockdown. After all, if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, etc….
The pubs being singled out shouldn’t surprise me. I lived in Scotland for 10 years and saw the various Wile E Coyote type attempts that Holyrood has done to restrict alcohol sales and they’re doing the same here. This is an attempt to destroy whatever social cohesion that pubs offer under the guise of a virus.
As for Qantas demanding their passengers have a vaccine, they must have a death wish surely. First, people will simply vote with their wallet and feets and simply choose an airline that doesn’t have this asinine requirement. Second, what about the possibility of being sued by a passenger who ends up with adverse side effects from the vaccine?
I fully expect most/all airlines and countries to insist on a vaccine. Why wouldn’t they?
Yep. They will be encouraged to do so by government and the courts who will suddenly develop an interest in people falling ill on planes.
The lawyers will have a field day. Imagine the adverts:
“Have you experienced adverse side effects after a vaccine?”
If that’s the case then the entire aviation industry has a death wish and will be complicit in their own demise.
Mass Aviation is finished anyway.It doesn’t fit in with the zero carbon agenda.Quaratines were instituted to bring this about.
That’s what certain vested interests want – air travel only for the privileged while the rest of us make do with Bognor Regis.
Barry Sheerman MP
Labour and Co-operative MP for Huddersfield
@BarrySheerman
All common sense dictates that we maintain tough lockdown measures until these amazing vaccines are available @BBCNews
https://twitter.com/BarrySheerman/status/1330996698064314369
WilMTay #KBF
“We really do need some form of minimum IQ test before you can become an MP”
Neighbouring MP to my own. He is a figure of ridicule saved each election only by the votes of “I’ve always voted Labour because my father did and his father before him” types.
Having a low IQ may be the only qualification for being an MP. There aren’t any others.
Aaah to become an MP the only apparent qualification is that you want to be in politics. Can you imagine the carnage if you applied the same qualifications to becoming a pilot or brain surgeon? Handjob is giving advice to medical experts and berating Barrington declaration experts with absolutely zero qualifications.
I could probably fly a plane in a fairly convincing manner, probably even in the dark, brain surgery doesn’t look THAT hard either. With a few hours on youtube and a bit of googling I am sure I could pick it up the basics.
I wonder what the Sun and other MSM would be saying if Jeremy Corbyn was presiding over this absolute fuck up?
I don’t think IQ tests help I suspect Keir Starmer has a high IQ but I suspect he won’t be able to run a lemonade stand even if his life depended on it.
He can barely get a sentence out.
Send that quote to Mr. Sheerman and every other MP.
Christingle services are becoming ever more popular in churches these days. It uses the visualisation of orange, ribbon, sweets and candles to depict the religious story and Christmas. We have had one for many years at our church, but won’t this year as it is a little hard on Zoom.
It’s funny how The Science could have found that vaccination was required once a week, or it could have found that it just needed to be once every 20 years. But instead, it has found it to be exactly the time period that any totalitarian regime would choose: once or twice a year. Long enough to be practical, but short enough to allow its use ‘tactically’ by the government. Handy, that.