Government Agrees Plan to ‘Save Christmas’
At a COBR meeting yesterday afternoon chaired by Michael Gove, the UK Government agreed plans with the First Ministers of the devolved nations to allow up to three households to gather over the five-day period between the 23rd and 27th of December. People will be able to travel freely across all areas of the UK, with an extra day of leeway at either end afforded to anyone wishing to travel in and out of Northern Ireland, to allow for the added journey time. The announcement comes after days of speculation in the media about the fate of the Christmas festivities.
The temporary relaxation of restrictions came with several caveats, as the Times reports:
Michael Gove, the Cabinet Office minister, agreed the exemption with the First Ministers of Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland at a COBR meeting this afternoon, saying the Christmas rules “will offer hope for families and friends who have made many sacrifices over this difficult year”.
Mr Gove conceded that “the Christmas period this year will not be normal” but said that “families and friends will now have the option to meet up in a limited and cautious way across the UK should they wish”.
Family meetings will be limited to private homes and outdoor spaces, with people still expected to be banned from seeing others in pubs and restaurants across most of England.
The move means that people will effectively be forming a temporary ‘support bubble’ in which social distancing is not required, meaning that relatives will legally be allowed to hug each other. The easing of measures does not extend to the New Year, a particular disappointment for residents of Scotland where Hogmanay can be a more significant celebration than Christmas.
The Guardian has more from the leaders of the four devolved nations:
Scotland’s First Minister Nicola Sturgeon warned that there was a risk inherent in any relaxation of the restrictions and asked everyone to consider very carefully whether the opportunity to mix for a few days is necessary.
She said: “We know that for some, contact with friends and family is crucial during this time as isolation and loneliness can hit people especially hard over the Christmas period. The ‘bubble’ approach aims to reduce this impact.”
Sturgeon’s comments seemed to tacitly admit of the mental health toll her restrictions had wrought. The Welsh Premier also remarked on the new plans:
The Plaid Cymru leader, Adam Price, said the plans were “sensible”, adding: “However, it’s crucial we don’t lose the hard-gotten gains of the last few months for the sake of a few days. Flexibility shouldn’t mean a free for all. Sadly, this will not be Christmas as normal and people must know that any relaxation also comes with risks.”
Not exactly tidings of comfort and joy.
The announcement comes as the Prime Minister faces a significant rebellion from his back benchers over the new restrictions. The Telegraph has more:
Boris Johnson’s new “toughened” tier system risks reigniting the North-South divide, Tory MPs have warned, amid a mounting rebellion over the latest lockdown measures.
Conservative WhatsApp groups have been lighting up with “fury” and “anger” over the post-lockdown plan, according to one senior Tory who said: “The idea seems to be to move everybody up, Tier 2 becomes a shady Tier 3, Tier 3 is lockdown. Tier 1 is all but abolished.
“There’s fury and anger at Boris Johnson on the backbenches about this. He doesn’t seem to care about the economic impact all of this is having. There’s going to be a major revolt.”
London MPs are pushing for the capital to be placed into Tier 1 because of the city’s economic significance but this risks angering Conservatives in “Red Wall” seats facing an “inevitable” return to Tier 2 and 3.
Sir Iain Duncan Smith was among those calling to spare the capital city the worst of the constraints, on account of the city’s huge economic importance.
Former Conservative leader Sir Iain Duncan Smith is calling for London to be placed in Tier 1 along with fellow London MPs including Bob Blackman.
Sir Iain, the MP for Chingford and Woodford Green, said: “London is critical to the UK’s economy. Just the West End represents 4% of GDP and it is completely dead.
“The cavalier way we are treating the capital city is astonishing.”
Worth reading in full.
Stop Press: The Wall Street Journal details how other European countries are intending to navigate the Christmas minefield.
No End to Social Distancing Until Over-50s Get Jab
Health Secretary Matt Hancock said in a joint session with the Health and Social Care Committee and the Science and Technology Committee yesterday that social distancing measures will not end until either everyone over 50 has been ‘offered’ a COVID-19 vaccination, or enough have taken it to bring the ‘R’ number below one, and predicted that normality might begin to resume by Easter. Laura Donnelly, Health Editor at The Telegraph has more:
The Health Secretary said he hoped the most damaging restrictions could be lifted by Easter, but said that depended on everyone on the first 10 groups of the vaccine priority list having been offered the jab by then.
He told a joint session of the Health and Social Care Committee and the Science and Technology Committee: “After Easter, we think we will be getting back to normal.
“But those damaging social distancing interventions that have down sides, whether economic or social in terms of our well-being. I should hope that we can lift those after Easter if these two vaccines are approved by the regulator, which of course is an independent decision for the MHRA [Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency].”
While speculation has run rampant on social media about whether Covid vaccinations would be mandatory, whether explicitly or implicitly, and the implications of that for civil liberties, Hancock’s comments appeared to suggest he is charting another course:
The Health Secretary said there would be a shift to an emphasis on “personal responsibility” rather than social distancing after Easter once vaccines have reached the most vulnerable people.
He said the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation (JCVI) advised that this meant reaching point 10 on its 11 point list – which would mean everyone over 50 would have been offered the jab, and added: “Once you have protected, or given the opportunity to protect older people, then obviously the public health rationale, particularly for strict and damaging measures, is reduced.”
This subtle change in tone might prove a small consolation for ardent anti-vaxxers, though only those without travel ambitions. As we reported in yesterday’s Lockdown Sceptics, Qantas has already declared a vaccination certificate will be a necessary condition of international travel and other airlines will likely follow suit.
Another concern is that Matt Hancock also told the same Committee that he anticipated mass testing to remain in place after the pandemic’s over. The Mail has more.
He told MPs on the Health and Social Care Committee that he would like to see an “if in doubt, get a test” approach become the norm for anyone with flu-like symptoms.
For too long Britons’ natural instincts have been to ‘soldier on’ and go to the office even when they are unwell, which doesn’t happen in other countries, he suggested.
But Mr Hancock claimed the COVID-19 crisis had highlighted how problematic this behaviour can be for older, vulnerable employees, adding that it was “going to have to change”.
He said: “Why in Britain do we think it’s acceptable to soldier on and go into work if you have flu symptoms or a runny nose, thus making your colleagues ill? I think that’s something that is going to have to change.”
He added: “I want to have a change in the British way of doing things where “if in doubt, get a test” doesn’t just refer to coronavirus but refers to any illness that you might have.
“If you have, in future, flu-like symptoms, you should get a test for it and find out what’s wrong with you, and if you need to stay at home to protect others, then you should stay at home.”
Alarming.
Stop Press: Transport Secretary Grant Shapps revealed while speaking on LBC that Matt Hancock overruled officials and bought more than three times the planned number of doses of the Oxford AstraZenica vaccine. Could be embarrassing if it turns out to be a dud. Laura Donnelly in The Telegraph has more.
Stop Press 2: Parliamentary Sketchwriter Michael Deacon offers Matt Hancock a crumb of sympathy in The Telegraph, observing that the Health Secretary is beginning to show a few signs of wear and tear after having spent so long answering questions recently. The heart bleeds!
20 Questions to Ask Your MP
Regular Lockdown Sceptics contributor Dr Claire Craig FRCPath, along with Dr Jonathan Engler, has kindly written this list of killer questions for readers to send to their MPs:
- Why are SARS-CoV-2 antibody levels flat or dropping across all age groups since May if the pandemic is still going?
- What percentage of the population is assumed to have had prior immunity to SARS-CoV-2 in the SAGE forecasting models?
- Why do 50% of household members not catch SARS-CoV-2 from infected persons with whom they live?
- Why have Japan and South Korea not had any serious outbreak if the human species has no prior immunity to SARS-CoV-2?
- What percentage of the population of the UK is assumed to be immune to COVID-19 (including prior immunity) as of this date?
- What percentage of those diagnosed with COVID-19 since July have developed antibodies to COVID-19, confirming the diagnosis?
- If 90%+ (SAGE Minutes: 21/09/20) of the population is still susceptible to SARS-CoV-2, why did the virus case numbers and deaths not double every 3-4 days throughout June, July and August, and indeed throughout the Autumn?
- Why have positive test results rocketed while numbers of symptomatic patients in the community and NHS triage data show they have flatlined since mid-September?
- Why are acute respiratory admissions through Accident & Emergency significantly below the normal for the time of year if the pandemic is still raging?
- Why are total hospital admissions, ITU occupancy and hospital oxygen consumption at or below normal levels for the time of year?
- What percentage of deaths labelled as being due to COVID-19 have had the diagnosis confirmed at post-mortem since July?
- Why are the regions of the country that have had excess deaths not the same regions that have supposed COVID-19 deaths, unlike in spring?
- Why has Liverpool testing by the Army failed to find COVID-19 in the community when they are supposedly at the centre of the alleged “second wave”?
- How is a 0.22% rate of diagnosed infection in the public in Liverpool to be reconciled with the ONS prediction of 2.3% infection rates in Liverpool on 11th November based on PCR testing?
- Why are much quicker lateral flow tests not being prioritised for hospital admissions to prevent the standard 24-48 hour delay with PCR results and ensure that those who are positive can be isolated to prevent hospital spread?
- Why aren’t all staff being tested by the lateral flow test to prevent the staffing crisis being caused by false positive PCR results?
- Do positive PCR tests for asymptomatic and symptomatic NHS staff, or anyone else, which result in them being required to self-isolate have confirmatory re-tests performed?
- Why is the country in lockdown when there are no excess hospital admissions, no excess intensive care bed use and no excess death rates (by date of occurrence) in the midst of an allegedly out of control, raging pandemic?
- Why are we in lockdown when the Government’s own Operation Cygnus pandemic plan stated that lockdown could only delay deaths by a few weeks at most?
- What evidence is there that lockdown has prevented more deaths than it has caused?
Dr Craig adds:
SAGE believes over 90% of the UK population are still susceptible to COVID-19 (Sage Minutes: September 21st). There is now a large body of evidence (eg BMJ: September 17th) that 30-50% of the population had prior immunity to the SARS-CoV-2 virus because of its similarities to some types of common cold.
Rishi Sunak’s New Deal
Chancellor Rishi Sunak is due to reveal a New Deal-like package later today worth an eye-watering total of £4.3 billion in an attempt to fend off predictions by the Office for Budget Responsibility of unemployment almost doubling by next summer. The OBR also suggests that by the end of the year the economy will have endured a 10% contraction, the worst in 300 years. The Telegraph reports:
Mr Sunak’s decision to find billions of pounds for jobs support in Wednesday’s Spending Review will be seen as an acknowledgement that the unemployment crisis has a long way to go.
The Chancellor will pledge to “create and support” hundreds of thousands of jobs through tens of billions of pounds of investment in infrastructure, including roads, houses, railways and cycle lanes.
A £2.9 billion Restart scheme will help the long-term unemployed to find jobs by giving them “intensive, tailored” support to meet their individual circumstances. Another £1.4 billion will be allocated to Job Centres, helping the short-term unemployed back into work.
Mr Sunak will also extend the apprenticeship hiring incentive — which pays employers £2,000 for every new apprentice they hire – to the end of March, when the new tier system of Covid restrictions will end. The jobs schemes will effectively replace the furlough scheme, which finishes on March 31st.
Stop Press: Douglas Murray has written a piece in The Daily Mail taking a very dim view of the Government’s reckless attitude to the public finances.
SAGE: PCR False Positive and Negative Rates Unknown in June
A reader has drawn our attention to a paper by the Government Office for Science (GOS), released by Minister for Social Care Helen Whately in response to a question on November 18th, entitled “Impact of false-positives and false-negatives in the UK’s COVID-19 RT-PCR testing programme” by Carl Mayers and Kate Baker on June 3rd. He writes:
It shows:
1. They didn’t know the false positive/negative rate on June 3rd.
2. Estimates from previous studies on similar tests put it at 0.8% to 4%.
3. Yet when they discuss tests on May 31st they use an assumed false positive rate of 0.4%. (Why should they assume half of the lowest figure on the previous study range?) Assuming a false positive rate of 0.8%, over half of the 1,570 tests on May 31st were false positives. If one assumes a median rate of 2.3% they may all have been
4. They recommend (reasonably) that external quality assessments be carried out – this begs a follow up question in Parliament as to what the results of these have been.
The paper is worth reading in full.
Part 2 of Dr Roger Hodkinson’s Analysis of the Crisis
Yesterday, we published the first part of Dr Roger Hodkinson’s coruscating analysis of the pandemic, entitled “Who Failed and Why?“. Today we’re publishing the second part, entitled “How to Prepare for the Next Big One“. Here’s an extract from the section called “the Experts”:
The current heads of the CDC, FDA, and NIAID should also be removed from office and replaced by non-partisan experts approved by the US Congress. Pragmatism should be the prime quality for the appointments, and there is still lots of that around. Academic/medical credentials are required of course, but should not be the only factor in the search.
Dr. Fauci in particular has vacillated on matters of substance with his nightly hand-wringing in the media. He also insisted on a formal double-blind trial for hydroxychloroquine (a drug with initial successes in France and an outstanding safety record) while thousands of people were dying! That opinion was classic for an academic, but in this crisis he was totally out of his league – or gone “wobbly” as Maggie Thatcher would have said. He also dressed up absurd modelling predictions by saying that they “could happen”, which of course the general public read as likely to happen – significantly ratcheting up public anxiety.
The FDA was similarly culpable for denying immediate use of hydroxychloroquine, actually intimidating very capable infectious disease specialists until they boldly decided to ignore the edict en masse.
Worth reading in full.
Conversation With a Nurse
A reader has written in to describe her recent experience in an English hospital. NHS staff are prohibited from speaking to the press or posting on social media so we’ve omitted mention of the location in case the staff member in question could be identified.
I got damaged by a horse late yesterday afternoon and had to be driven to A&E. I was wearing my mask-exempt hidden disabilities lanyard (which I am genuinely entitled to) but the receptionists asked if I wouldn’t like to wear a mask anyway to protect myself in the hospital environment. There were three receptionists in close proximity, no distance between their chairs and the middle one, who was talking to me, only had hers over her mouth not her nose.
In the waiting area, I was the only non-masked person. They seemed to be quite busy. There was a prisoner there, handcuffed and chained to an officer, both bearded with token efforts at mask wearing but neither were challenged about their ill-fitting efforts.
When I got to triage, I had a most interesting conversation with the nurse. She said they still were not particularly busy and she was very concerned about the increases in certain types of cases. Domestic abuse was the example she gave, and subsequently when I was waiting for X-ray, an extremely distressed and beaten-up woman appeared, who was telling the paramedic how frightened she was that the “guy who did this might have decided to finish the job” if the emergency services had not been so quick.
The triage nurse went on to tell me that the first lockdown had been “lovely from a work point of view, nothing to do and lots of free food”. Apparently, if they were on shift and rang for a pizza, the companies just delivered to the hospital for free. She particularly mentioned Domino’s. The nurse said that this region had never been in any danger of being overwhelmed, and was now beginning to worry that there would be a backlash against ‘Protecting the NHS’ when they could clearly cope and the lockdowns continue to lose people their jobs, etc.
This hospital did appear to be letting companions in to wait with elderly patients, which I believe is better than many other places.
Stop Press: Fiona Hamilton has a piece in The Times describing how the court system is so overwhelmed that domestic abuse victims are being advised to take civil action rather than make criminal prosecutions, while court delays are growing so long that some complainants are attempting suicide.
Have We Been Given a Day Off Lockdown by Mistake?
A retired statistician has written in to say that he thinks the Government may have got its sums wrong.
The Health Protection (Coronavirus, Restrictions) (England) (No 4) Regulations 2020 at paragraph 1(2) state: “These Regulations come into force on 5th November 2020” and the accompanying information box says “Reg. 1 in force at 5.11.2020.”
Paragraph 23 (1) says: “These Regulations expire at the end of the period of 28 days beginning with the day on which they come into force”, with the same accompanying information box.”
Now, you may recall that we were told at the time that the new lockdown came into force at 00.01 GMT on Thursday 5th November.
So one would therefore assume that the end of the period of 28 days would be midnight on Wednesday 2nd December so the new rules would come into force at 00.01 GMT on Thursday 3rd December after 28 complete days have elapsed.
Yet the guidance published on Gov.uk regarding the new “Tiers” system states: “The new rules will come into effect from the beginning of Wednesday 2nd December.” Boris Johnson’s statement to the House of Commons said the same thing.
So, either we are being given a day off for good behaviour or somebody in Whitehall can’t count!
Defiant Yorkshire Salon Racks Up £27k Fine
An heroic hairdresser in Oakenshaw near Bradford in West Yorkshire – Sinead Quinn – has defied orders to close her salon by the local council and racked up a series of fines amounting to an eye-popping £27,000. BBC News has more.
Sinead Quinn was working at Quinn Blakey Hairdressers in Oakenshaw, Bradford, on Saturday when Kirklees Council officers issued a £4,000 fine.
The council found the salon open again on Monday and Tuesday and issued two further £10,000 fines. It had £1,000 and £2,000 fines for previous breaches.
Ms Quinn said on Instagram she did not consent to or accept the fines.
The salon owner posted videos on the social networking site which show her talking to council officials and police, saying she had not broken any laws.
On the video, she is heard saying: “I don’t consent to any fines, so it will just be returned to sender.”
She had also displayed a poster on the salon door which refers to Magna Carta, and says the shop is “under the jurisdiction of common law”.
At the time of writing we have not been able to locate a crowdfunding page for the freedom-loving Yorkshire woman, but we will link to one in a subsequent update if such a thing exists. If anyone knows of one, please contact us here.
Round-Up
- “‘It’s disgraceful and un-British’: Tory MP Sir Charles Walker rages at police as they bundle spread-eagled elderly woman into a van during peaceful ‘anti-lockdown’ protest outside Parliament” – Furious MP witnesses heavy-handed policing outside parliament, reports The Daily Mail
- “Number 10 cherry-picked ‘spurious’ Covid data to justify England’s second lockdown and may have intended to frighten the public, top Cambridge statistician claims” – SAGE scientist Dr David Spiegelhalter blasts panic-mongering by Government
- “Don’t blame Covid for economic devastation” – Phil Mullan in spiked with a thorough debunking of the case for lockdowns
- “Pandemic Villains: Allianz Global Investors” – Matt Taibi writes about how the insurance giant has dealt with its investors during Covid in the first of a continuing series
- “The New (Pathologized) Totalitarianism” – C.J. Hopkins in Consent Factory on the dystopian ‘New Normal’
- “Censoring anti-vaxxers will only reduce trust and encourage conspiracy theories” – John Macdonald in CAPX making a good case against censorship
- “Elon Musk is the world’s 2nd-richest person, surpassing Bill Gates, as Tesla’s market cap tops $500 billion” – Shalini Nagarajan in Business Insider reports on the shift in the billionaires league-table. The world’s richest lockdown sceptic is closing fast on Jeff Bezos
- “We must resist the future being planned for us” – A rallying cry from Matt Fahey in Conservative Woman
- “More Salem than Thanksgiving” – Another comprehensive takedown of lockdown lunacy from across the pond, by Heather Mac Donald in Spectator USA
- “Rules for tiers ‘will kill off the pub trade‘” – Grim tidings for vintners, as reported by Callum Jones in The Times
- Ivor Cummins’ latest video shows sinister address to Irish school kids – Even Ivor claims to be “blown away by this one”
- “Quillette Podcast 124: Shelby Steele, Senior Fellow at Stanford University’s Hoover Institution, on ‘What Killed Michael Brown?’” – Author Shelby Steele speaks to Quillette’s Jonathan Kay about white guilt, the “poetic truth” of Ferguson, the dead end of racial grievances and the creative process of working with his son Eli
- “Peter Hitchens urges people to ‘stop swallowing this garbage’ on Covid restrictions” – This week’s exchange between Peter Hitchens and Mike Graham on talkRADIO is worth a listen
- “Moderna’s chief scientist says its vaccine prevents coronavirus from making people sick – but the shot may NOT stop you from spreading the virus” – The Daily Mail‘s US Health Editor Natalie Rahhal on the Moderna vaccine
- “Coronavirus UK: Just 97 fined for not wearing a mask in four months” – The Daily Mail reports how the draconian fines have been far from widely enforced
Theme Tunes Suggested by Readers
Two today: “I Shall Be Released” by Bob Dylan and “Tiers [sic] of a Clown” by Smokey Robinson and The Miracles.
Love in the Time of Covid
We have created some Lockdown Sceptics Forums, including a dating forum called “Love in a Covid Climate” that has attracted a bit of attention. We have a team of moderators in place to remove spam and deal with the trolls, but sometimes it takes a little while so please bear with us. You have to register to use the Forums, but that should just be a one-time thing. Any problems, email the Lockdown Sceptics webmaster Ian Rons here.
Sharing Stories
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Woke Gobbledegook
We’ve decided to create a permanent slot down here for woke gobbledegook. Today we have the news that staff at the publisher Penguin Random House held an “emotional” meeting to express their dismay at the decision of the company to publish Canadian Professor Jordan Peterson’s upcoming book Beyond Order: 12 More Rules for Life.
VICE reports:
Four Penguin Random House Canada employees, who did not want to be named due to concerns over their employment, said the company held a town hall meeting about the book Monday, during which executives defended the decision to publish Peterson while employees cited their concerns about platforming someone who is popular in far-right circles.
“He is an icon of hate speech and transphobia and the fact that he’s an icon of white supremacy, regardless of the content of his book, I’m not proud to work for a company that publishes him,” a junior employee who is a member of the LGBTQ community and who attended the town hall told VICE World News.
Another employee said “people were crying in the meeting about how Jordan Peterson has affected their lives”. They said one co-worker discussed how Peterson had radicalized their father and another talked about how publishing the book will negatively affect their non-binary friend.
Douglas Murray took to Twitter and commented:
Any such ‘tearful’ staff should be fired immediately and their jobs advertised the next day. If you don’t understand free speech you’ve no right pretending to work in a publishing house. Penguin Random House Canada should “Reagan airport worker” the lot of them.
“Mask Exempt” Lanyards
We’ve created a one-stop shop down here for people who want to buy (or make) a “Mask Exempt” lanyard/card. You can print out and laminate a fairly standard one for free here and it has the advantage of not explicitly claiming you have a disability. But if you have no qualms about that (or you are disabled), you can buy a lanyard from Amazon saying you do have a disability/medical exemption here (takes a while to arrive). The Government has instructions on how to download an official “Mask Exempt” notice to put on your phone here. You can get a “Hidden Disability” tag from ebay here and an “exempt” card with lanyard for just £1.99 from Etsy here. And, finally, if you feel obliged to wear a mask but want to signal your disapproval of having to do so, you can get a “sexy world” mask with the Swedish flag on it here.
Don’t forget to sign the petition on the UK Government’s petitions website calling for an end to mandatory face masks in shops here.
A reader has started a website that contains some useful guidance about how you can claim legal exemption.
If you’re a shop owner and you want to let your customers know you want be insisting on face masks or asking them what their reasons for exemption are, you can download a friendly sign to stick in your window here.
And here’s an excellent piece about the ineffectiveness of masks by a Roger W. Koops, who has a doctorate in organic chemistry.
Stop Press: The Welsh Government has instructed schoolchildren to wear masks at all times, even outdoors.
The Great Barrington Declaration
The Great Barrington Declaration, a petition started by Professor Martin Kulldorff, Professor Sunetra Gupta and Professor Jay Bhattacharya calling for a strategy of “Focused Protection” (protect the elderly and the vulnerable and let everyone else get on with life), was launched last month and the lockdown zealots have been doing their best to discredit it ever since. If you Googled it a week after launch, the top hits were three smear pieces from the Guardian, including: “Herd immunity letter signed by fake experts including ‘Dr Johnny Bananas’.” (Freddie Sayers at UnHerd warned us about this the day before it appeared.) On the bright side, Google UK has stopped shadow banning it, so the actual Declaration now tops the search results – and my Spectator piece about the attempt to suppress it is among the top hits – although discussion of it has been censored by Reddit. The reason the zealots hate it, of course, is that it gives the lie to their claim that “the science” only supports their strategy. These three scientists are every bit as eminent – more eminent – than the pro-lockdown fanatics so expect no let up in the attacks. (Wikipedia has also done a smear job.)
You can find it here. Please sign it. Now approaching 700,000 signatures.
Update: The authors of the GDB have expanded the FAQs to deal with some of the arguments and smears that have been made against their proposal. Worth reading in full.
Update 2: Many of the signatories of the Great Barrington Declaration are involved with new UK anti-lockdown campaign Recovery. Find out more and join here.
Update 3: You can watch Sunetra Gupta set out the case for “Focused Protection” here and Jay Bhattacharya make it here.
Update 4: The three GBD authors plus Prof Carl Heneghan of CEBM have launched a new website collateralglobal.org, “a global repository for research into the collateral effects of the COVID-19 lockdown measures”.
Judicial Reviews Against the Government
There are now so many JRs being brought against the Government and its ministers, we thought we’d include them all in one place down here.
First, there’s the Simon Dolan case. You can see all the latest updates and contribute to that cause here.
Then there’s the Robin Tilbrook case. You can read about that and contribute here.
Then there’s John’s Campaign which is focused specifically on care homes. Find out more about that here.
There’s the GoodLawProject’s Judicial Review of the Government’s award of lucrative PPE contracts to various private companies. You can find out more about that here and contribute to the crowdfunder here.
The Night Time Industries Association has instructed lawyers to JR any further restrictions on restaurants, pubs and bars.
And last but not least there’s the Free Speech Union‘s challenge to Ofcom over its ‘coronavirus guidance’. You can read about that and make a donation here.
Samaritans
If you are struggling to cope, please call Samaritans for free on 116 123 (UK and ROI), email jo@samaritans.org or visit the Samaritans website to find details of your nearest branch. Samaritans is available round the clock, every single day of the year, providing a safe place for anyone struggling to cope, whoever they are, however they feel, whatever life has done to them.
Quotation Corner
It’s easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.
Mark Twain
Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, one by one.
Charles Mackay
They who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.
Benjamin Franklin
To do evil a human being must first of all believe that what he’s doing is good, or else that it’s a well-considered act in conformity with natural law. Fortunately, it is in the nature of the human being to seek a justification for his actions…
Ideology – that is what gives the evildoing its long-sought justification and gives the evildoer the necessary steadfastness and determination.
Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
No lesson seems to be so deeply inculcated by the experience of life as that you never should trust experts. If you believe the doctors, nothing is wholesome: if you believe the theologians, nothing is innocent: if you believe the soldiers, nothing is safe. They all require to have their strong wine diluted by a very large admixture of insipid common sense.
Robert Gascoyne-Cecil, 3rd Marquess of Salisbury
Nothing would be more fatal than for the Government of States to get into the hands of experts. Expert knowledge is limited knowledge and the unlimited ignorance of the plain man, who knows where it hurts, is a safer guide than any rigorous direction of a specialist.
Sir Winston Churchill
If it disagrees with experiment, it’s wrong. In that simple statement is the key to science.
Richard Feynman
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
C.S. Lewis
The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants.
Albert Camus
We’ve arranged a global civilization in which most crucial elements profoundly depend on science and technology. We have also arranged things so that almost no one understands science and technology. This is a prescription for disaster. We might get away with it for a while, but sooner or later this combustible mixture of ignorance and power is going to blow up in our faces.
Carl Sagan
Political language – and with variations this is true of all political parties, from Conservatives to Anarchists – is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind.
George Orwell
The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane.
Marcus Aurelius
Necessity is the plea for every restriction of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.
William Pitt the Younger
Shameless Begging Bit
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And Finally…
Excellent YouTube video from the comedian and satirist WhatsHerFace. This one’s called: “Welcome to THE GREAT RESET.”
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I think I’m first! Can’t sleep’
Baa!
Quite helpful, but, really, Moomin probably needs to count more than one sheep to reach the Land of Nod!
Me neither.
I’m not sure reading this helps my insomnia! When will this madness ever end?
No. Also, how can the vackseeen (as Bojo pronounced it, no doubt after hopping himself up on Hollywood movies) reduce the R rate if it is not claimed that it grants immunity? Unless the R rate is in effect a made up number.
Exactly what I’ve been wondering.
The r-rate is in effect a made up number. It’s a kinda observational value which is kinda useful to describe it’s behaviour in a populous (but isn’t an intrinsic property of the virus as such). In theory if you new the infection state of every one in the country you can determine its value. Since that is basically impossible the r-rate has to be inferred from some empirical data (testing) as an input to their epidemiological models, which the basically run backwards to get a r-rate….in short depends totally on their models and we know how good they have been.
The R number is exactly that: https://www.gov.uk/guidance/the-r-number-in-the-uk#how-are-r-and-growth-rates-estimated “The UK estimates of R and growth rate are averages over very different epidemiological situations and should be regarded as a guide to the general trend rather than a description of the epidemic state. Given the increasingly localised approach to managing the epidemic, particularly between nations, UK level estimates are less meaningful than previously. It is SAGE’s expert view, however, that this week’s estimates are reliable. Individual modelling groups use a range of data to estimate growth rates and R values. Different modelling groups use different data sources to estimate these values using mathematical models that simulate the spread of infections. Some may even use all these sources of information to adjust their models to better reflect the real-world situation. There is uncertainty in all these data sources so estimates can vary between different models, so we do not rely on just one model; evidence from several models is considered, discussed, combined, and the growth rate and R are then presented as ranges. The most likely true values are somewhere within the ranges. The growth rate and R are estimated by several independent modelling groups based in universities and Public Health England (PHE).… Read more »
Check out this video of Bill Gates telling the CIA about his Mind Control Vaccine::
https://www.bitchute.com/video/Msu5mIJFSBCq/
pass it on. This is not a joke or a hoax, everybody need to know.
Why is my post ‘waiting aproval’ when everybody elses comments go straight in? My comment is not a joke or a hoax, it is deadly serious and as many people as possible should be made aware of it. I have recieved ‘Lockdown Sceptic’ in my email ever since it started so I am no stranger.
I am sick and tired of counting sheep when out and about.
When I need to count them to help me sleep I cannot.
Top of the mornin’ to all
Temporary restrictions lifted, with major caveats, just for Christmas?? Since when did you begin negotiating and bargaining for your basic liberties?! This is batshit crazy. You don’t need “protests,” you need outright rebellion!
We all just need to carry on as best we can with our normal lives. If the sheep want to abide rules, regulations etc. let them
Absolutely right. I don’t care a baa if every single sheeple stays quavering and whimpering in bed until it dies. Indeed, they have no life worth living, so when they die it will make no difference.
Survival of the fittest/Natural selection:Bring it on!!!
They are dead already.
harsh, but fair
Exactly, its our life and we should live it the way we think best for ourselves. If the zombies want to cower and hide let them.
It’s about saving lockdown by retreating from what would otherwise be a humiliating collapse over Christmas. Bojo is giving ‘permission’ for what people would have done anyway, thus avoiding any admission of defeat.
Clearly they do fancy their chances of winning the great battle of New Year’s Eve, unfortunately. Perhaps the regime believes it can regain the appearance of legitimacy for lockdown by opposing itself to a tiny minority of irresponsible drunks, letting the country down in its great unifying struggle against the rona. Hail Johnson!
Police are alway out in force on New Year’s eve, no skin of their noses if they are stopping parties in private home or pubs, bars & restaurants.
New Years Eve in my drinking days was very much a Scottish thing.
Perhaps best left to them to win that one against sturgeon.
Do the BBC still do a 6 hour borathon with any old comedians and third rate singers who they can stick in kilt ?
You leave Moira Anderson out of this
I don’t suppose she or Andy Stewart would cut the mustard nowadays. It’ll be some woke rubbish.
Yes – there has been nothing watchable since Clive James gave up on doing his New Year countdown take on events of the year!
Perheps Mizz Sturgeon’ll do her Jimmy Krankie impression for ye on Hogmanay. Oh hang on, she already is…
All this done by the Weasel Gove. Since when did the devolved nations dictate what should happen in England. You can drive a horse and carriage through these ridiculous regulations. No definition of how big a household can be or the size of studio flat or a mansion where they get together. All unenforceable tosh which the Police have said they don’t have the time to enforce. Very few will obey.
Agreed although I do wonder if the cancellation of Hogmany was a rare defeat for the Lochdown monster of the ‘Ikea Parliament’?
Why don’t they just call Gove “First Minister of England?”. Would make it clearer to the other 3 where they sit in the packing order.
Gove and Tories have always been contemptible bastards
Protests can work. As LS reader theanalyst posted late yesterday
“Gym owners got angry and won concessions very easily. Open in all 3 tiers”.
Likewise a regional chain of 5 garden centres/plant nurseries refused to close on the grounds that Tesco up the road were selling shrubs so why couldn’t they ?
Despite Council threats of enforced closure and police threats against customers they stayed open throughout lockdown and beyond.
Like gyms, Garden Centres are now classed as essential.
Time pubs and restaurants did the same.
Great article in Spiked about how the great and the good despise wet boozers noting how regulations specifically favour the gastropub of which they approve.
Tim Martin of Weatherspoons has come out full on sceptic, even though in the long run his firm is likely to benefit from the demise of smaller pubs.
He has published his monthly magazine online which I downloaded yesterday.
Perhaps someone more skilled than I could post the link for those that missed it.
https://www.jdwetherspoon.com/news/2020/11/wetherspoon-news-do-lockdowns-work
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Bloody well done Tim Martin and Wetherspoons. If only more companies would do this, the sheeple would soon be changing herds.
I’ve started reading the magazine – its a collection of articles by Lord Sumption, Prof Yeadon, Prof Gupta and others that have been previously published in different newspapers but are now found in one periodical.
Tim Martin is also a Leaver and you had the spectacle of remainers on Twitter calling for the boycott of his pubs. Won’t be surprised if the lockdown zealots will do the same now.
Presumably lockdown zealots boycotting Spoons will have little effect since they will be avid shielders.
One hopes so. Many of them I suspect are pub snobs as well and see Spoons as beneath them.
Lockdown zealots will hardly risk visiting pubs. The good news is that the vaccines will get them first.
I’m not sure what to think about him as I’m a remainer and sceptic!
Tim Martin won’t be benefitting that much. The earlier restrictions on pubs has meant that myself and a few of my regular drinking partners had already stopped visiting them, prior to the latest nonsensical lockdown. We are not the only ones who have found hostelries were now rather unpleasant places.
The government just doesn’t like pubs, mainly because people can talk to each other and sensible ideas can spread much quicker than a fake respiratory infection. If pub owners don’t soon start flexing their muscles, most pubs and many hotels will be staying shut permanently. Well done Tim Martin.
This idiocy about „essential“ businesses😡. EVERY business is essential to the ones getting their paycheck from it. Every business is essential for the functioning of a normal society. Not THIS dystopian nightmare they’re trying to push.
We carry protest signs when we go to our local pub on Friday night. Just in case our globalist puppet governor decides to limit capacity again. Because PROTESTS are ok at 100% capacity 🙄
I am very much of this opinion. If the large chains/breweries refused to close what could they actually do to force them to?
Agree. Its been odd how there’s been the lack of push back from pubs and restaurants.
Like I’ve always said, remain open and no restrictions. If fined and harassed, refuse to pay and cry foul. Demand that it go to court.
If they all did this, the police and courts will be tied up not knowing what to do. That should keep them busy for the next 50,000 years.
” Time pubs and restaurants did the same”
100% agree, if they pushback they’ll win.
We should all push back, no masks, no tests and absolutely no vaccines.
It is as alexandra solzhenitsyn said. They can only do to you what you let them. Problem lies in finding enough people to resist.
Alexandra? Sister of the writer?
Lockdown and restrictions are in fact one big twisting of the arm by Pharma, the banks and tech industries. ‘Accept indefinite vaccines and immunity passports and we let you go’.. We’re being held hostage
“Take this planet to Cuba”
Even if it wasn’t what the spaffing Johnson was planning back in March, that is exactly what he (and his equivalents everywhere) have delivered.
If you don’t do anything about it then you will become a hostage.
Mine and the British People’s civil liberties are not the plaything of Government and it’s tamed opposition parties in Parliament stop putting up with this Ladies and Gentlemen the population of Great Britain and indeed the world population need to remove their Governments and reinstate accountability
The government has dictated that I can’t meet friends or family, go on a date, meet a romantic partner, dance… I wonder what life is like in North Korea. Is it better?
Can’t be worse.
NK streets always look clean on videos.
Working a Night shift in another miserable care home.It’s pointless Im refusing any further testing and letting my mask slip.Nurses are a disgrace and complicit by their silence let’s see how silent they remain when the Vaccine rolls out.
Working conditions currently dictate buying into this shit.Its bit like walking up in a Psych unit and feigning madness just to survive.A few are able to critically think.Though last Sat before I walked out of my shift a young Nurse said to me she can’t wait for the vaccine! I guess that’s Eugenics/Darwinism in action bye bye birdy.
Stay strong! Well done for refusing tests that remove your basic rights. When you’re going through hell, keep going. We’re all behind you!
Sadly the majority of nurses are incapable of any kind of independent critical thinking and can only follow orders. It’s the main reason I left the profession as I couldn’t cope with working among people who were inherently stupid. I work in a non nursing role in adult social care where fortunately having a test isn’t mandatory or at least not yet.
Problem is I’m a Psychiatric Nurse of 33 years and have a low tolerance for bullshit.When I started out I was intimidated by my colleagues knowledge and intelligence.Today most Nurses are as thick and mostly untasty as a Richmond sausage.
Wonderful to know there is one of us working in the First Circle of Hell. You are precious! Stick with it, we’re rootin’ for you.
As an over-50 (age as well as IQ-wise) there’s no way I ma taking the jab so I guess a lot of people are going to be angry at me for preventing a return to normality. Both they and Boris can f*** off.
“My immune system and yours are 99.7% effective against covid, why would you risk that against an untested vaccine that only claims 90% and which, in the case of Pfizer, doesn’t even prevent infection ?” Works well with waverers.
Correction. From main text, seems the Moderna ‘vaccine’ does not prevent infection either.
They are already spinning the Vaccine as a civic duty to protect others.Why does that sound familiar?
So the vaccinated get the infection but don’t suffer too much so they can still wander around acting as super spreaders. Now that sounds like a plan.
I shall just tell people I’ve had it. I’m not wasting my energy on arguing. I will tell them that I was very unwell and had to go to hospital and nearly died, though, as my reaction to it was so bad and that I’m still suffering from side effects. That might make them think a bit.
I will also be refusing the vaccine. I guess I’ll receive an invitation by letter from my GPs surgery. Will be returning any correspondence unopened and marked No Longer At This Address. I wish there was a way of de registering with my GP as I’m sick if all the health screening invitations you receive once you reach a certain age.
I’ve just had a letter telling me to get my seasonal flu injection. If this incarceration is meant to stop a similar flu, what is the point?
Vaccines were always coming and that was clear from very early on. These liability free vaccines will at best be simply dangerous, but much more rational to assume that they will be intentionally genocidal.
The police have had many small victories during the last nine months
Egged on by politicised senior officers they have beaten up and detained across the land
As Bomber Harris once opined ‘ They have sown the wind……….. ‘
Most sceptic protesters are dressed as though they are taking the dog for a walk.
Easy pickings for the police compared to tackling the armoured and helmeted louts from XR and the like.
If it had been BLM the Police would have either ran away or gone down on one knee like the cowards they are. If it had of been XR they would have had a good old dance. How those officers can look at themselves in the mirror is anyone’s guess. Totalitarian sscum.
I love the way that David Lister of Red Dwarf fame says scum.
Your are right, Bomber Harris did quote that, but the original quotation is from the prophet Hosea:
For they sow the wind,
and they shall reap the whirlwind. Hos 8:7
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and ignored by MSM and BBC . However last night Newsnight featured the sad case of a lady pulled from a car and assaulted by police . Spot the difference and try and guess the reason for the BBC interest
I think it’s also because is was witnessed by a LS MP who then went into the house demanding answers from the chancellor and Gestapo.
that’s not the one i was referencing .. i dont think the lady lockdown protester got that much MSM exposure anyway. The lady featured on Newsnight and previously on the BBC web was not lockdown related and was a lady of colour.
so the case that occured just outside Parliament, witnessed by dozens of passersby, all over numerous YouTube channels and brought to the attention of the Deputy Speaker is ignored ?
I work for the police as a civilian and in theory the police should be impartial upholders of the law. The danger is governments can use the police as a weapon against people they don’t like and it is felt Thatcher did this with the miners. I don’t like the way the government has used the police as a personal gestapo against anti lockdown protests. If the police continue to be used this way I see things turning ugly and they could be retaliation against the police. On youtube comments people have talked about finding out where officers live and teaching them a lesson. Someone pointed out the killing of PC Keith Blackelock in the 1980s and if things carry on like this, something similar could happen again. I feel a powder keg is being created. The government takes a hands off policing approach to protests which involve groups the government supports or is indifferent to such as BLM or ER but heavy handed policing when it comes to groups the government opposes which is going to create resentment. The police might get a more robust response at protests in future if they attack and arrest protestors.
Hmmm, has anyone given some thought on a class action suit against the government if they plan to lock us down until March 2021? Maybe bases on the QALY, I think it’s £35000? For every single person?
Yes, I have pondered that Chris, but am I right in saying that you can’t have a class action in the UK? Maybe a private criminal prosecution would work. I think if you can establish one successful case then others could bring their own suits under the new caselaw. But I am not a lawyer and others may have a clearer understanding.
Perhaps using civil law? Restraint of trade?
I would gladly contribute to any fund to take action against the Govt.
We now possibly have a vaccine, so everything will be OK. Everyone will take it apart from a few anti-vaxxers and ‘deniers’ like we see on these pages. But you must remember that this virus is a danger without parallel which the governments of the world have seen fit to shut down the economies and normal social interaction, and even stop children going to school, to avoid. 39% of the British public know that over 3 million people have died here alone. This vaccine will only be 70/90/95% effective. Take the best figure, that means that 1 in 20 (or so we are told ) can still die of COVID – that’s another 3 million people in the UK (or as many see it up to 10 million). The government are responsible for all those deaths from this nasty virus – they let everybody out but there are still people dying after a positive test within 28 days – the lockdown sceptic ‘extremists’ will say that this is just viral material from the vaccines but we know these people are ‘deniers’ and the government this time are listening to them. They even tried to decrease the sensitivity of the testing… Read more »
Hugging will be LEGAL!?!?!
This is insane.
Hugging is NEVER illegal.
HUGGING IS A HUMAN RIGHT!
HUGGING IS HUMAN
Suggesting ministers decide whether you can hug someone is preposterous. Barbaric!
I
EMRACE
THE
HUMAN
RACE!
Write that all over town.
About a week ago on the Today Programme the presenter and The Expert were discussing appropriate behaviour at a multigenerational Xmas lunch.
Spacing out furniture to aid social distancing and open windows for ventilation were agreed.
The conversation then went down the route of banning singing, . . . talking loudly . . .blazing rows . . . before they realised how ridiculous they sounded.
The whole thing is ridiculous. And dangerous. It is a vital part of normal human interaction that viruses are passed around the population to ensure that the viruses weaken and our immune systems strengthen. Everyone gets colds and fluid over Christmas. It’s vital that we do. This madness is literally going to kill people.
Open windows for ventilation is now becoming the cause of school children catching colds. Can you imagine what that will do to elderly people especially?
And not to mention the food going cold quickly to the point that it could be inedible?
Utter misery to be terribly cold for extended periods of time. Impossible to function properly. Don’t forget colds are from viruses though- you don’t get them from draughts or being cold.
I used to have a colleague who kept windows open for “fresh air” or so she says. One of the windows was directly next to me and as a result of her mania, I developed a cold which I couldn’t shift for 6 months.
Why open the window? Isn’t that where the virus is? That’s surely why we have been locked inside our safe houses for a year? Oh no don’t tell me! The virus will keep the spirit of christmas in its heart and will be on a break. Bah Humbug!!
Hanging out with Scrooge.
She was almost certainly menopausal, was permanently hot and suffered from intense claustrophobia. I did that in the office too and have every sympathy with her. All public buildings are far too hot.
Fortunately for me, and my colleagues, I am now working in my own well ventilated and underheated home!
That’s possible but she should have asked us if we’re OK with opening the windows then closing them afterwards. It wasn’t just me who complained about it.
I am supposed to do this. I generally don’t, because the noise from the playground is worse than the cold (break times are taken in shifts because of bubbles, which means they last 2-3x as long). At least modern schools have those ‘safety’ windows that hardly open; never thought I’d be glad of that.
I can’t do transparencies in my graphics package very well, it’s a bit old, so can anybody do a covid secure xmass lunch image like in the style of the Bisto Family with all the participants wearing space bubble helmets?
The Bubble Heads
That would be funny.
I’m going to, but I’m not sure how many members of the human race still linger amongst the zombies.
Except spell it with a B 🙂
Mandy Dick says after the pandemic is over he intends to use track an trace to combat athletes foot
Athletes are particularly vulnerable to having feet, and should self-isolate until the end of Time.
AND WHAT ABOUT ATHLETE’S FOOT???
or athletes’ foot?
I kind of have a crush on that hairdresser. How many times have I told you guys that you need to get some knights together, drag johnson (et. al.) Up a mountain, and make ’em sign another magna carta!
She’s my new girlcrush
The penny dropping yet?
This has nothing to do with C19 anymore.
Much like how the ‘war on…drugs/crime/terrorism’ was there to ‘save us’ C19 will be used in the same way and just like the other ‘wars’ the only thing that will be accomplished is a massive reduction in our God given freedoms and liberties…oh and a hefty tax bill for it, not to mention regular untested ‘vaccines’ that will do nothing to end C19 as it is already here to stay.
The actions of these governments and their supporters are literally stealing from and killing us with their actions.
War on drugs, war on terror, war on covid, war on humanity. Big business for some.
100% agree with you. It never did. CV-19 is the Trojan horse. IMO all these “measures” are just a series of tactics that they will keep rolling out to gradually create totalitarianism. Some might meet resistance but each time they get away with it, they will carry on. it will kill people, bankrupt others and allow them to control those that are left. And the scary thing is that so many people no only don’t realise it, but some even come out in support of it, thinking that the government are trying to save lives. See my post at about 9am UK time for a rather incoherent theory on the whole thing
Did you see the James Delingpole interview with Patrick Wood. Holy crap, I did not realise how deep this shit goes. Frightening
Sorry I don’t know how to put a link in
i assume you mean this one from yesterday
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtuIWPl7of0
well worth a watch.
Thanks, saved for later.
If a Covid Marshall accosts you ask him or her for their legal qualifications. If they are not then tell you can tell them that they have committed a criminal offense and could face up to seven years in prison.
This from Suzy G and Mark Windows, 11/19/2020 on the Republic Broadcasting Network. Beware, there are four or more ad breaks and each one lasts about 4 minutes. Adjust according to taste.
We have to go to war on masks. Replace that hideous slogan “wearing is caring” with the more accurate WEARING IS SCARING and WEARING IS SCARRING SHOW YOUR FACE TO SAVE THE HUMAN RACE! Masks are EXTREMELY dangerous! We need urgent action on this. An open letter by more than 4700 psychologists has outlined the dangers. On masks they say: Some authors state that up to 93% of all human communication is non-verbal, which is key in relation to learning and interacting, and to people who are deaf or hard of hearing who depend on lip-reading. Impairing non-verbal communication by blocking facial expressions may have short and long-term implications for children’s developmental milestones, emotion regulation and the development of secure relationships – moderated by the amount of more typical interaction a child gets in absence of mask wearing/distancing. The distressing effects of only two minutes of interaction with an expressionless face (not dissimilar to a masked face) on an infant, can be seen in the video footage of the well-known still-face experiment. Covering of the face can lead to a sense of anonymity and social isolation, to changes in social dynamics, such as distrust and aggression38, and to reduced awareness… Read more »
The Health Protection (Coronavirus, Wearing of Face Coverings in a Relevant Place) (England) Regulations 2020 Have a 6 month review clause and must come before parliament in January for re-consideration. Like much of the dubious lock-down rules they are a statutory instrument made under the Public Health Acr 1984. It would need a lawyer to comment fully on this but to my mind this Act was never intended to be used in this way. It appears to be more to do possibly detaining someone who has a serious infection e.g. TB and is in danger of spreading it to others. Even then to use this Act you need to demonstrate a serious and imminent threat, even at the present time I do not feel there is sufficient evidence of a serious and imminent threat but I rather suspect the ‘Tiers Lockdown’ stuff will get passed this week. But maybe there is time to clarify the legal position and really push to prevent the renewal of the face mask regs when they come up for review in January. The fact that so few prosecutions have happened under these regs is anotherr reason to ask why they are needed at all. Just… Read more »
You should look up House of Lords Constitution Committee online and click on “implications of restrictions made during covid 19” (or words to that effect). There are two televised sessions. FASCINATING watching. Almost all strongly agree that Public Health Act was WRONG way to make new legislation. Should have used Civil Contingencies Act. And the only reason they can think of as to WHY government used PHA and not CCA is that the CCA is subject to closer parliamentary scrutiny, more vulnerable to judicial review and HAS to be renewed every 30 days.
There was a SAFER way to do this. Ask why they didn’t choose that way? Because No. 1 priority for these people is ALWAYS protect their own backs. They don’t care how many lives they destroy in the process.
Only cretins could possibly think they are needed. Many outwardly compliant wearers know they aren’t, except to save you from a fine. That’s obvious from the way they snatch them off and stuff thrm in their pockets the instant they come out of a shop.
The Pope, by the way, is a cretin.This condition now appears to be essential for those in high ecclesiastical office.
I am not a lawyer and have struggled to fathom the legal side of all this as far as England is concerned and have no idea how the Welsh regs are drafted? Are the Welsh regs made under a Welsh version of the Public Health Act?
My younger daughter lives in Cardiff (works for the ONS) and we need to sort out visits as soon a Uberfuhrer Johnsons lockdown changes on the 2nd. We live in N Devon and I was planning a boat people type trip across the Bristol; Channel but my wife feels there are a few drawbacks to this scheme!
The Welsh regs are similar to the English ones except that they are very cagey about what constitutes an exemption. Welsh gov. online has the details. I can’t bear to look at them again.
I’ve never been challenged, except by the foul rector of the Covidian church that I no longer frequent.
The Disability Discrimination Act and other legislation protecting those with hidden disabilities apply in full.
Never worn a mask and as yet have never been challenged.
Annie, I feel the same. The welsh exemption wording is HORRIFIC. I had to close the page. I would not feel safe visiting Wales now. I would know how to claim exemption, you still – by law – only have to say “I have a reasonable excuse”, but who knows what powers police THINK they have!
You don’t have to say anything to anybody.
You may recall that after a couple of months it was announced that all prosecutions under lockdown regs had been cancelled because
‘Arrests had been made under regs only applicable in Wales’.
The idea that several different Police forces would make the same simple mistake is inconceivable, more likely prosecutors realised the prosecution were unlawful.
The 1984 Act was intended to be used against the like of Typhoid Mary, not to impose regulations on healthy people still less whole populations.
Being ‘unarrested’ is a thing. It happened to me 30 years ago when I was unarrested into the care of my then flatmate following an alcoholic incident, probably initially arrested for my own safety.
I can only think that the duty Sergeant in the Liverpool cases decided the protesters actions were not arrestable.
Just remember that being “unarrested” is not legally possible. If you are released, you have been arrested. If the reason for the arrest was inadequate, then the arrest was unlawful and therefore you can take out a civil action against the filth.
There is no such thing as de-arresting someone. You were either lawfully or unlawfully arrested. Without a lawful arrest, there is a potential penalty; you must make a civil claim. Hurt them where it counts. They cannot get out of being sued by “dearresting” someone. This is a con, designed to make people think that they can’t sue if they are “dearrested”.
We could do with someone in the legal profession taking this mask business up. A crowd fund or similar would easily cover the cost
There needs to be a study to check the safety of wearing face masks for long periods. Another Danish study
I don’t believe they’re safe when worn for long periods. How can it be healthy to reduce oxygen intake and to rebreathe expelled breath?
I can’t believe such an important question is not being asked by those who claim to care about health
I remember my dentist saying that their effectivity is only for around 10 minutes and when my colleagues were first given disposable masks they were told to change them every 4 hours but no-one did.
During one of our briefings as well I did ask if there was a risk assessment on wearing them but I was told by management that they didn’t know.
Agreed. The massive flaw in the Danish study was them being given endless supplies of new masks. As if that’s what everyone does.
Could we find x people (probably have to be in Sweden) who have never worn a mask. Then another x people who have done so throughout. Both sign to confirm this and that they have gone about their normal business in an urban area. Then a full medical on each.
Can’t remember the exact paper, but it is only a matter of a few minutes or less that your O2 and CO2 levels are compromised.
I posted of a neighbour with COPD.
His clinician Saturated (maximised) his oxygen/blood levels.
95-100 is the usual range.
90 is getting on first dysphoria(?).
His was 90 when maximised.
The clinician told him to wear a mask, under supervision, for ten minutes after which it was down to 85.
My friend is 83 with COPD.
Before I was able to tell her that she was mask exempt, she’d thought she had to wear one when she went out. Both times she did, she ended up in hospital.
Indeed CO2 levels decrease, your body adjust but that leads to brain damage – massive increase in dementia in the future. If children wear that for longe periods of time, the damage to the brain will result in them never being able to reach full potential PLUS all the damage to their immune system, organs etc
The first place masks were compulsory was in shops. Virtually everybody in shops now muzzles up. Yet despite that,supermarkets are the greatest single source of transmission. Go figure, as they say.
Mask wearing does not reduce the transmission of airborne respiratory infections and that is the proper science. The paid for pro mask “science” that has surfaced from the bottom of the barrel since last March is science of the junk variety.
Are there any good posters regarding masks? Too many wearing in my locality and people are getting used to them..
I would print out the masks section of the Psychology Counts letter (signed by 4700 psychologists):
https://www.psychologycounts.com/
Also… don’t look at people in masks. Look to the side and say, “Sorry, I can’t look directly at you as I find the sight of a masked face too disturbing.”
Putting children in masks is child abuse. Covering their faces is criminal. Who will stand up for their rights. They are victims of a disgusting political game.
When bemuzzled people walk by me on the pavement away from shopping and other ‘compulsory’ areas, I just stare right at the muzzle until they’ve completely gone past.
Sometimes extra action is deserved. Someone pointedly muzzled up when they were about 10 feet ahead of me today which annoyed me enough to pipe up with “You know, that won’t actually do you any good” as they sheepishly shuffled past
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This one is pro mask
It is ? I thought it was calling people who wear them clowns.
Look again!
I love this.
Brilliant!
Here’s a fun little game I’d recommend to all fellow sceptics: next time you’re in a shop (sans mask, as I’m sure you are) and some masked shop assistant starts talking to you, ask them to remove their ‘face covering’ as you’re hard of hearing and need to be able to lip read. It’s a reasonable request and failure to comply will show them to be heartless swine.
The manner in which they comply will tell you much: those who unmask with evident relief are potential converts to our cause; those who react as if you’ve just asked them to throw themselves on a live grenade are lost causes.
Join HANDS, uncover your FACE, share your SPACE
I like it!
Mask wearing is enforced by the wearer.
article39.org.uk: COURT OF APPEAL RULES EDUCATION SECRETARY ACTED UNLAWFULLY IN REMOVING SAFEGUARDS FOR CHILDREN IN CARE.
https://article39.org.uk/2020/11/24/court-of-appeal-rules-education-secretary-acted-unlawfully-in-removing-safeguards-for-children-in-care/
Yes it is! PEOPLE HAVE ALWAYS DIED! They die every day. Especially people who are in extremely poor health. The vast majority of those people would have died from their conditions after catching ANY cold or flu virus. People who have seemed healthy have also died of complications from colds and flus because they weren’t actually as healthy as they seemed.
There is NO VACCINE AGAINST DEATH!
Oh I like that!! (You should edit and tell people to click on link for answer… I didn’t see link)
But they’re working on it.
Ever wonder why the vaccine will be here for Easter?
Because it’s a seasonal virus that no one should fear. Unless you are very old in which case this just a new addition.
Please watch the short excerpt.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cZZ6HK92REM
The Fascist murderers have responded to a cancer care petition:
“The NHS is working to restore cancer services as quickly as possible. Cancer Alliances have been allocated £153m to continue delivering treatment in a Covid safe way.”
Now, how much did they say they were allocating to the Moonshot?
If you like bullshit, you can enjoy the full monty here:
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/552734?reveal_response=yes
Yes.
Sentenced to an agonising death to keep bedwetting zombies safe from Covid.
Murdering bastards.
I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again: I think talk of ‘bedwetting zombies’ and the like is, at best, ‘unhelpful’.
When this was discussed a while ago, people thought Toby et al above the line should desist. But that those of us commenting btl were ok.
No rational person seeks or rejects ‘help’ because of one poster’s choice of phrase.
Thanks for the lesson in semantics. I chose the word ‘unhelpful’ as I thought it the kindest way of getting at what I was getting at, not because I don’t know about the meaning and usage of the word ‘help’. You mention reason (as in ‘rational’), and you also talk in terms of ‘us commenting btl’. Well, maybe part of my problem is that I think a lot of people on here are no longer being rational or reasonable in what they say/write. And (also) that LS has become somewhat cliquey (with someone like me, who dips in and out of LS as and when she has a few mins, entirely unaware of what “people thought” about referring to others as ‘bedwetting zombies’, ‘morons’, etc.).
It helps me.
Unfortunately for the likes of Wancock, no other illnesses matter now except for Covid. And unfortunately the zombies agree with him.
Why is the phrase ‘stay safe’ beginning to sound like ‘Heil Hitler’?
You can’t meet friends, family. We’ve cancelled your appointments. You’re not allowed to protest. No breathing fresh air. Every death and bad thing in the world is blamed on selfish people wanting to live their lives. No you can’t purchase those things, sorry. We’re going to force small businesses to collapse. No pubs or cafés – sorry. No one’s allowed in your home. Stop living.. But stay safe!
We should all be working on how to STAY SAFE from these crazies.
No, but Wancock wants people to be mass tested for the common cold for ever, to keep.us all safe.
Doesn’t matter if we are all working at home or have lost jobs.
I think they have just discovered that testing is a goldmine. So the more, the merrier.
Just as well really as There were 640,370 live births in England and Wales in 2019, got to make room for them somehow!
So the headline of the DM today is a condemnation by a SAGE scientist of the government xmas plan to allow families to meet.
What really gets me is how SAGE feels so empowered in recent months that any time their “advice” is not taken they now run to the press and essentially whistleblow, in an attempt to force the issue their way.
Surely this latest should be a clear cut case of overstepping a remit and breaching confidentiality. As such, individuals such as this, let alone the whole lot of them, should be fired.
The most evil part of the brainwashing was “act as if you’ve got it”. PURE EVIL. People without symptoms DO NOT spread viruses. If you have the herpes virus you cannot give it to someone unless you have an active cold sore. Same with any cold/flu virus. If you are coughing and sneezing, you stay at home. If not, you go out. Common sense! “Asymptomatic case” is an oxymoron!
Not if your symptoms have been suppressed by the Pfizer or Moderna vaccine thus turning you into asymptomatic carrier if infected.
Why do all the SAGE members have such shitty web cams and slow internet connections? Every time they’re seen they’re peering dolefully down at their £300 Chromebook’s webcam, sat in a room full of books.
Do they go to special “How to Stage Your Call with BBC News” classes?
It’s the beauty of doing everything ‘virtually’, a free pass to talk nonesense, these people would never normally be given a voice. Virtual meetings and interviews give them a platform, who knows whether they are reading from a script, my bet is that they are and have probably been well briefed beforehand.
All a pantomime.
This hadn’t occurred to me, but you are absolutely right.
That’s a good point. The Two Ronnies of Doom are guilty of precisely what you’ve said. One of them constantly has the light shining atop his head.
A bad connection gives you more time to think about what to say and to formulate your answer.
The books thing is such an obvious thing. Also, a whiteboard with lots of important daily tasks in the background helps to make you look tremendously productive
I am unable to work in my profession at the moment.had an idea for a new career. Zoom call consultant.
It’s all just wank virtue signalling. All their fave books are hidden from sight….
Like Mein Kampf?!
Mao’s little red book.
Paul Pot the singer?!
These are not the type of people you would like to spend an afternoon with. I would be certain they are all of a single personality type, and victims of group think. Remember every time they open their mouth in the media it is for the money. More fear = more funding. Nuremberg. That’s the one word that they need to hear. Science without compassion takes you where ?
Auschwitz.
Did the DM challenge their viewpoint, you know, journalism? Or did they let them spout their idiotic bullshit? What happened to advisors advise and the rest of the time STFU!
Todays author Conor Chaplin tells of the victims of domestic abuse being advised to take Civil Action against their abusers such are the delays in the legal system caused by lockdown.
This allows me to correct the typo error I made yesterday.
Magistrate Courts had a backlog of 500,000 cases in August, this has now been reduced to 490,000.
So it has taken 3 months to knock off just 10,000 such Court cases.
This from BBC R4 The Long View which compared the current situation with the last time the legal system ground to a halt.
1666 after the 1665 Plague and subsequent Great Fire of London.
Yet they had no problem slapping huge fines on that Yorkshire hairdresser …
But will it ever get to Court if she does not pay ?
Hahaha does anyone believe that the ‘vaccine’ won’t, in any way, be made compulsory by other means?
There is no vaccine certificates as of yet to travel, many will follow Quantas’ lead and want them. This will, hopefully, negatively effect them and the countries they fly between.
My belief is that restaurants etc will also uptake similar requirements and that will spell a death knell for them.
Make sure to punish companies that ‘require’ said certificate. The fight for freedom begins.
Someone did make the point yesterday that, if Qantas does enforce vaccination certificates – then they have put themselves in the position that anyone who only has a vaccine because Qantas forced them to (on pain of not letting them fly) could possibly lay themselves open to being sued for any vaccine injuries. That argument, of course, could be taken further – eg any employer that forces a member of staff to have a vaccine on pain of getting sacked if they don’t might also be up for getting sued by a member of staff that has consequent vaccine injuries (cue for unions having to do an about-face on their current attitudes and head off to court and state their member wouldn’t have had the vaccine and resultant injury if their employer hadnt forced them to do so).
Oh that is a very smart line to take across the board. Seeing as global governments basically indemnified the entire medical industry against malpractice!
They didn’t indemnify Qantas
You don’t even have to “have” issues, you can perceive you have and call it stress. Remember the mind can have devastating effects on the body. It’s also a reason why attitude can be a big factor in overcoming disease.
I think that’s also why Ticketmaster did such a quick U turn and passed the buck onto the individual venues. They’re not only afraid of their revenue plummeting (as many people have contacted them directly or left messages on their social media accounts of their intention to boycott) but also the possibility that they could be taken to court by a ticket holder who has the vaccine to be able to attend a gig but then ends up with bad side effects.
Of course that’s not the end of the matter as the ball is now in the court of individual venues like the O2 but they should be careful about mandating vaccines as a condition of entry as they’re the ones who could be sued instead.
Ha ha, ask your employer for their vaccine risk assessment if they do insist.
The SMEs, or whoever is left, will be bribed to adopt it. They will.
I shouldn’t be surprised really but in the comments supporting Qantas on social media, people are talking as if the vaccines will stop transmission of the virus, despite the manufacturers saying it won’t. Effectively, they’re making a Lemsip cocktail mandatory and many people are lapping it up.
Exactly as I only gave reopened restaurants and gastro pubs 1 chance with QR codes.
If they went contrary to Govt advice and said ‘no QR no entry’ I left and will not be going back, ever.
Boycott the restos and cafés and hope that the staff rebel against their bosses.
There has been no report about the age structure in the seasonal wave. But looking to Sweden’s deaths in the current seasonal wave deaths, they seem to be even more skewed to the extreme elderly.
Of the total 6500 deaths so far(about 600 so far in the current seasonal wave)
26% 90 years and older41% 80-90 years21% 70-80 yearsThat is a staggering 88 % over 70 and there are still persons comparing this to Spanish flu! (incl. Fauci)Don’t have the figures straight ahead of the April wave but deaths above 90 seemed to have increased.Include.in the definition of a pandemicis should be excess death.There has been no pandemic in Sweden in persons below 70.
The ONS stats show that for England & Wales, The first week of November saw 84% of recorded Covid deaths were over 70. So that basically we have frail elderly people dying of a respiratory disease in the winter time, which as I recall is pretty much what happens every winter?
Add to that, millions of years of influenza being with us and sudddenly it disappears? Okay, that’s totally logical.
The only pandemic I see is Rebranding
Local BBC news last year and every year: “winter bed crisis, lets interview the Chief Executive… blah blah.. boring”
This year: “We’ve had exclusive access to the ward, here’s some dying people, lots of machines and beds people in masks and how exciting…”
Isn’t it funny in August there were no photos of empty wards and nurses doing dance routines on tick rock and asking the question where has the virus gone. My God it’s so hard being a journalist.
Here in my NHS ward of 300,000 it is 93% over 65. 30% over 80.
They don’t break it down to individual ages.
Ivor Cummins always points out that in Irelands first wave was primarily made up of the very elderly but also, looking at ICU deaths, many were too moribund even to get ICU treatment. Haven’t seen a similar analysis for the UK but it does point to the importance of pre existing conditions, which is 2.1 co morbidities on average
ICNARC are the body that report on ICUs and their reports are easy to understand. I read the spring report for Wales and thought: “Oh there you are then, it was never that bad. Now the facts are in, we’ll surely return to normal”.
Still waiting…
The dry tinder it missed first time ?
I am a private tutor. One of my tutees is currently finishing her second period of isolation, having been sent home from school because someone in her ‘bubble’ tested positive. This term she has so far missed four weeks of schooling for this reason and does not receive proper educational provision at home. It’s only her GCSE year though so it’s not really important, is it? Another tutee has told me how low her friends are feeling. They are telling her they are ‘not okay’. She is struggling with motivation and is becoming tired and unproductive. I don’t know what advice to give her because I am feeling exactly the same way. Doing a small task each day takes a monumental effort. Although I have a keen interest in psychology, I’m not sure about what is happening psychologically here. I feel the government is so protected in its own bubble that they are now so far removed from how their measures are having a detrimental effect on the ordinary lives of everyday people. It’s time they took a reality check and come to their senses. I hate to think what the long-term impact on the health of the nation will… Read more »
25 years to life imprisonment is more appropriate imo.
Public execution is more to my taste tbh but I understand that’s going too far for many.
I’m with you. Temporary reinstatement of the death penalty for Wancock, Johnson, Raab, Gove and the whole of SAGE… for starters…
We can reopen Tower Hill for that purpose.
Northumberland Nomad letting the criminals get away with murder, literally.
I don’t think they care. Tyrants can only tyrannise if they are indifferent to the sufferings of their victims.
I don’t know if it helps, but I think of learning as an end in itself, and I always did, even when beset with exams. It’s a precious gift that can never be lost or taken away.When you teach somebody, you are enriching them. When you learn something, you are being enriched. And the more you learn, the more you are armoured against the mind-control of tyrants, because learning means thinking.
See the daily quotes Annie, it’s worse because they have deluded themselves into thinking it is all for our own good.
My view is that PCR tests are being used as a weapon against healthy asymptomatic people and that self isolation for two weeks is also being used as a weapon of psychological torture. All dressed up as public health policy.
Solitary confinement is normally used as a punishment for prisoners in prisons. Not for innocent people who have no health issues
‘We’re testing healthy people and declaring them unwell whilst refusing to treat actual sick people’
The UN actually banned solitary confinement as a method of torture. It’s too extreme.
Well, it didn’t work, did it? Dear U.N., actions speak louder than words.
Feeling unmotivated to perform small routine tasks and failing to take enjoyment from things that normally give you pleasure are two classical, mild signs of clinical depression. Try to get help, and above all, remember this site! It’s keeping me going.
I agree. It’s taken my two hours to get my head space together sufficiently to start work. I can’t be arsed to go out on my bike and still less arsed to complete the component machining for a job that I have going on at home.
Suzi G – actionspeak.info because actions speak louder than words.
It’s criminal what they’re doing to everyone especially children and young people. They have at most 50-70 years to go in this planet and I shudder to think what emotional and mental scars they will be carrying around for all that time.
Awful should be shouted from the rooftops “I’M NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE”
I know myself motivation for my own job can be at a real low due to all of this. God help those children
I must be very lucky in that very few of the kids I teach exhibit these issues, although there have been hints. I do my best to bring some joy to their lives and give them something that’s going to enrich them against all the crap that they’ve had forced on them. Zero tolerance for the do-gooding wealthy mummies braying for the schools to be shut again.
That’s great to hear, please do keep it up.
A reason why school holidays and life in general lasts forever for the young is that they are always processing new and interesting things whereas for the elderly it is mostly the same old same old barely worth remembering.
Not like that now for the young with no social or extra curricular activity.
Hi Coronamoana, here’s my advice. Don’t get low, get mad.
These young people have a lot of power and leverage but they aren’t using it. They can find like-minded friends and take to social media. They can make short clips and videos and learn a lot of skills while they do so.
Take for example the stupid idea that wind instruments spread the virus, they can get hold of one and make a video of trying to blow out a candle with one.
Art, music mini animations – there are many young people speaking out to give them a role model. Take a look at the video atl today about the great reset. See what Naomi Seibt gets up to … be inspired and learn German at the same time (though she does a lot in English as well)
Good advice Rosie.
I am also a private tutor…maths mainly A Level I too find many pupils are at home self isolating because someone they dont even know had a positive PCR test. Why are people having tests when they are not ill and also have zero chance of dying from the disease…its profoundly anti social on others…I feel like telling some parents they are utterly stupid and are playing their part in wrecking theirs and other children’s education.
I also agree…pretty much all my pupils look utterly miserable but are so intimated by the ‘dont kill granny’ emotional blackmail that they feel unable to say so.
When I hear someone say the young people are being selfish I really find it hard not to punch them in the face. I find that attitude utterly despicable. These are people who enjoyed their own young lives in the 1960s but seek to ruin the young lives of the present young generation. I am 61 but would never expect the young to emasculate their own lives to save me. If I feel vulnerable (which I don’t in the least), its up to me to look after myself not expect others to do it for me. All this ‘do it for others’ stuff is just pass the sick bag for me.
Very important points and well highlighted. Massive problems for these poor kids, it sooooo bad.
“meaning that relatives will legally be allowed to hug each other”
Absolutely absurd that this is a reality.
Beat me to it, how can anyone read that and think the statement is perfectly acceptable and you know what there will be people who will follow the rules and not touch another human being or loved one ever again.
An old English hand signal is an appropriate response
I could think of a few places to direct the arrows too.
Hugging is human
A hug is an essential act of love
This is CRAZY TOWN. It’s like HIV phobia on steroids.
Bring Princess Diana back to life. She changed the world by hugging an AIDS patient and not dying!
Imagine how that would play out in Court, in the unlikely event of it getting there.
You are guilty of attempting to hug your mother, I recommend the full penalty of law!
Some people think this is perfectly reasonable, presumably those with no moral compass.
When are we going to be legally allowed to flame thrower the people who have inflicted the ‘no hugs’ rule on people? Just for the record I hug everyone so stuff it.
A lot of people can’t afford not to soldier on. Anyone self employed or on zero hour contracts for example. No sick pay at all for them.
For me if I don’t go in to work would mean a whole shift potentially not being covered and a lot of groceries not getting delivered. Perhaps one of the other drivers could cover the shift but no one would be happy if it was happening all the time because someone had a sniffle…
In Hancock’s mini-world, people who work go to offices to work. He doesn’t understand about the rest, the greater part of the economy. I tend to agree with him on the office side, people who used to come to work looking like death but being martyrs were kind of irritating, especially when they gave their germs to everyone else. But he has no conception of how most people carry out their day to day jobs.
But in the real world if you take time off for the flu you would be told about your attendance and given a disciplinary warning letter.
In the real world if you have flu chances are you wouldn’t be able to get out of bed far enough to even think about going to work.
If you have actually (and more likely) got a cold then as far as I am concerned you should be free to go to work if you feel well enough, but you shouldn’t if you don’t. The notion that it is of any significant consequence whether other people catch it from you or not is absurd.
Including if you work for the government.
I think that I would change employer if that happened to me. Unless your attendance was already poor time off for illness does not justify a written warning or even a verbal warning.
It is missing the point to talk about “antivaxxers”: people who have concerns about these matters are not ideologues, they are people who vaccinated and are aware of risk – and they are being gaslighted. It should be obvious.
What will happen if and when people are harmed by these new vaccine products: the government will deny it, those reporting anything will be characterised as “antivaxxers” and safety will be vindicated. This has been going on since the inception of the NHS: if you don’t want to be an “antivaxxer” you don’t say anything, but “vaccine safety” is an artefact of this brutal system – it is about social repression not about science.
How long before damaged offspring might appear?
We have been hugging family and friends since the end of April and are still alive. We do not need the government to tell us when and who we can hug particularly when consenting adults are involved. No one we know has the virus.
Another satire video from the featured presenter for your amusement: https://twitter.com/epigwhisp/status/1331105675036901377
It’s a good one !
Welcome to The People’s Republic of Great Britain.
https://conworld.fandom.com/wiki/Great_Britain
An interesting but possible outcome.
Pushback in New York.
“OUR FREEDOM DOES NOT END WHERE YOUR FEAR BEGINS”
https://youtu.be/xAwbH3__KzU
Best quote ever!
Great.
Destroying children’s lives – severely compromising their physical and mental health forever – because of political war games. Doing it for VOTES. No other reason. It’s vile!
Mandatory masks in welsh schools even outside!!
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/education/pupils-staff-welsh-secondary-schools-19328640.amp#click=https://t.co/npSvZ7adyq
Parents should be marching up and down outside with home made banners saying “Let our children breathe”
Use some emotional blackmail on the b*stars.
Parents shouldn’t even dream of sending their kids to anywhere that mandates masks. Makes them complicit in child abuse.
I agree in theory but so many parents have no choice, no other option… they have to send their child to school so they can work. It is the government that MUST ban masks on children. Smoking is less dangerous for them ffs!!
It’s very hard, not easy at all.
Keep job and have your kids abused, or lose job and protect your kids.