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by Will Jones
26 November 2020 3:09 AM

Lockdown 3.0 Set to Continue to Summer 2021

Despite all the vaccine optimism and the promise of a relaxation of the rules over Christmas, the dreadful financial forecasts by the OBR yesterday came with some underlying assumptions that appear to foresee restrictions continuing until summer 2021. Guido Fawkes has done the digging.

The Chancellor, in his statement today, used the forecasts from the OBR’s “central scenario” when it comes to Covid complications. So Guido took a look at those underlying assumptions. The OBR assumes, presumably with good reason given how closely it works with the Treasury, widespread deployment of a vaccine by the middle of 2021, not by the Spring, with a high to medium level of restrictions until then. The differences in implied borrowing, growth, and scarring are stark.

The “upside” scenario the Government is clearly not confident of taking place, involves restrictions “broadly equivalent” to October 2020’s tiers 1 and 2. The Government’s modelled upside is the previous tiered system. Meanwhile the “central scenario” expects the whole country to be between tiers 2 and 3 right through until “mid 2021“. No household mixing until June…

As Boris stated earlier this week, his post-lockdown plan is for a “new, stronger and more sustainable tiers framework on December 2nd”, styled as “tougher than in October” – reinforcing the Government’s view that we will find ourselves in the OBR’s “central scenario” where things “may vary regionally and temporally”, however are still predominantly repressive, until the start of summer. Guido can only hope the forecasters are once again wrong.

Read it here.

Hospitals Still Not Protecting Patients From Covid

Professor Carl Heneghan from the Oxford Centre for Evidence-Based Medicine has warned that UK hospitals are still failing to prevent the spread of the virus among patients. It comes after outbreaks in cancer wards in Edinburgh’s Western General and Glasgow’s Queen Elizabeth University Hospital left a number of patients dead. The Scottish Sun has the story.

The Oxford University expert spoke out as he said levels of ward-acquired infections in Scotland during the ongoing second wave were a “really serious issue”.

It came as it emerged planned ops, including cancer surgery, have had to be axed in Greater Glasgow and Clyde due to pandemic pressures – and more than 100,000 Scots are waiting on key diagnostic tests.

Prof Heneghan said: “Community admissions are coming down but we are seeing this ongoing problem of hospital- acquired infections. It is a big issue now, as it was in the first wave. Staff are becoming infected and then go back and forward betw­een areas in hospitals. We urgently need to get on top. It’s particularly important as we go into winter, where we’ll have Covid hospital-acquired infections, and potentially other infections like respiratory syncytial virus and influenza in hospitals.

“Where we’ve seen problems, it’s often mixing non-Covid patients and Covid patients, and staff taking the virus between areas. What we need is completely separate entrances, separate staff working on these wards, and the staff need to be quarantined when they’ve been working. No mixing. The PPE reduces your risk but not to zero. The more times you see patients who are symptomatic, the more you are at risk.”

Prof Heneghan said old-style community  hospitals – many of which have shut – could have been used for Covid patients to stop disruption at larger health facilities.

He added: “If we look to places like Germany, they have nearly three times as many beds as we’ve got, and they have many more smaller facilities in the community. That allows Covid patients to be put in those facilities and centralised hospitals to keep running.”

In a nod to the Louisa Jordan field hospital at Glasgow’s SEC campus – which hasn’t treated any Covid patients – he said: “If it was a problem to use Nightingale hospitals or staff them, why  procure and pay for them when you could have been thinking about smaller facilities to separate patients?”

The newspaper notes that the number of patients catching Covid in Scottish hospitals doubled in a week during October to 189 as the virus spread to non-Covid wards.

How tragic that we have spent so much money and imposed so many restrictions on the healthy in experimental and often vain efforts to contain this virus, yet have failed to take the basic steps necessary to protect the vulnerable, such as keeping infectious patients separate from other vulnerable patients.

Worth reading in full.

Oxford Vaccine Red Flags

Hilda Bastian in Wired has looked in detail at the AstraZeneca trial and is extremely unimpressed, arguing the vaccine “isn’t up to snuff”.

Presumably, neither of the two trials from which they combined data could have provided a clear answer on the vaccine’s efficacy on its own. To make things worse, Oxford-AstraZeneca reported only the results for certain subgroups of people within each one. (For perspective on this: The two subgroups chosen leave out perhaps half the people in the Brazilian trial.) Meanwhile, one of their key claims is that giving half a dose of the vaccine on the first injection, followed by a standard dose on the second one, led to better outcomes – but neither of these trials had been designed to test this hypothesis. In fact, it’s since emerged that the half-dose/full-dose option started out as a mistake, and one that was only caught when some people in the study didn’t have the usual high rate of adverse effects.

The problems are legion.

There are other problems, too. In the press release, Oxford-AstraZeneca reports that two of the dosing regimens “demonstrated efficacy.” Presumably, none of the others did, but they didn’t give specifics. Of the only two regimens they reported, one (the mistaken first half-dose, followed by a full dose at least a month later) came in at 90%, and the other (two standard doses at least a month apart) achieved only 62% efficacy. You’ll see reports that the vaccine had 70% efficacy, on average; but that’s un-knowable, because we only have numbers on these two regimens, as opposed to everyone in the trials – and how they arrived at those percentages isn’t explained. As far as we know, some of this analysis could hinge on data from just a few sick people. That means the findings could be a coincidence, or they could be biased by other factors. For example, it has since been revealed that the people who received an initial half-dose – and for whom the vaccine was said to have 90% efficacy – included no one over the age of 55. That was not the case for the standard-dosing group, however, where the reported efficacy was 62%. This demographic difference could be more important than the change to the size of the first dose.

That’s not the end of the problems. Overall, the Oxford-AstraZeneca trials appear to include relatively few participants over the age of 55, even though this group is especially vulnerable to COVID-19. (People over 55 were not originally eligible to join the Brazilian trial at all.) Compare that to BNT-Pfizer’s trial, where 41% of the volunteers were over 55. The Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine also seems to produce relatively high rates of adverse events. If you want to dig further into this vaccine’s story and issues, I’ve laid out a more detailed rundown of the Oxford-AstraZeneca trials and sources here.

The Oxford vaccine is a more traditional type of vaccine so the lower efficacy and stronger side-effects are more in line with what was originally expected. The concerns do call into question though how political any UK decision to approve the vaccine will be, as well as how many will agree to have it and how far the Government will deem it sufficiently protective to bring the emergency to a close. The Pfizer and Moderna RNA vaccines appear to be more effective (if more expensive and logistically challenging), but we don’t yet know for how long or if they will prevent serious illness or transmission. There are also questions of long-term safety.

Even if a vaccine does enable this crisis to come to an end in the next six months, there is still the problem of what happens next time. We can’t go through this every time a new flu-like pandemic gets going.

Stop Press: A new peer-reviewed article has appeared in Annals of Internal Medicine, “Ethical and Scientific Considerations Regarding the Early Approval and Deployment of a COVID-19 Vaccine“, questioning the ethical basis of the current Covid vaccine trials. Is this the kind of anti-vaxx messaging that Keir Starmer wants banned?

FIVE Places That Prove Lockdowns Aren’t Needed

UK positive tests reported

The foundational myth of 2020’s dangerous new cult of lockdownism is that without severe restrictions on the freedom and movement of the general population COVID-19 will afflict and kill hundreds of thousands of people. That is the only claim that could plausibly justify such extreme infringements of our liberty with all the extraordinary costs and harms that come with them. Disturbingly, its sole basis appears to be a belief in the epidemiological modelling by Imperial College and others which purports to show that this calamity is likely, or at least a reasonable worst case scenario.

Many have pointed out that the Government’s own surveys show that the UK R rate fell below 1 before the recent national lockdown, though this hasn’t stopped the Government claiming it was the lockdown wot done it.

This is far from the only evidence that lockdowns are not necessary for COVID-19 epidemics to slow and decline. Below are the latest graphs from Worldometer for five places (two countries and three US states) which have not imposed a lockdown or many restrictions at all on a national, state or local level this autumn. While most of them have seen a busy autumn in intensive care, hospitals have not been overwhelmed and are operating within normal seasonal bounds. In all of them the epidemic is now (in terms of positive test results) either in decline or plateauing.

Assuming these slowing and declining trends continue, these data will become solid proof that lockdowns and other extreme restrictions on the general population are not necessary to “control” COVID-19 outbreaks, even in winter, and therefore cannot be justified as a matter of proportionate public health policy.

Stop Press: Prof Carl Heneghan has warned that as “cases” plummet, the data the Government will use as the base of its announcement today about which areas will be in which tiers will be out of date by December 2nd.

Scientist Demands Retraction of Original PCR Study

Dr Pieter Borger

A reader writes with news about a challenge being issued by a Dutch scientist to the original paper which underpins the supposed scientific validity of the Covid PCR test.

Today, Dutch scientist sceptic Pieter Borger has issued a paper to journals for publication demanding retraction of the paper with the origin of our PCR test. The original paper was submitted January 21st, and published  January 23rd – the fastest peer review ever! Keep in mind that the virus was only DNA sequenced on January 7th. That paper apparently is the origin of all PCR tests in Europe. Borger says it is dodgy science and should be retracted.

These are his charges from an earlier unofficial publication (translation courtesy of Google translate):

1. Use is made of non-specific primers and probes. This can be established because the letters with which the primer is indicated are not fully stated. This gives the researcher the opportunity to further specify which primer he will eventually use. The researcher may enter the letters left blank himself.

2. The probes must be specific to detect the gene. In the January 2020 article, one probe is said to be specific for the SARS-CoV-2 virus. The other probe is common to SARS-CoV viruses. With the group of scientists I work with, we have determined that in reality those probes are the same. Whether those probes are both specific for SARS-CoV-2 or whether they are both more general for SARS-CoV viruses, I don’t know. This test is bad design for this reason alone.

3. I have explained the importance of a correct primer concentration above. We have found that these concentrations are in many cases four to five times too high.

4. There are six primers in total. We found that the GC content was significantly too low for three primers; the correct GC content should be, as I have explained above, between 40% and 60%. Two of the six primers tested were found to have a GC content of 28% and a 34%. This also means that the PCR test is a bad design.

5. Based on the article from January 2020, I investigated which annealing temperature is used in this PCR test. I have explained to you that within a primer pair the temperature difference may be one or at most two degrees. In this test, the temperature difference in one of the important genes turns out to be about 10 degrees in reality.

I have the impression that RIVM itself has also established that something is wrong here and that this was the reason for RIVM to change the protocol and for that reason removed one gene from the test, namely this gene.

6. Insufficient parts of the virus are detected to determine whether one is indeed dealing with the SARS-CoV-2 virus (corona). I am referring to my imagery from above with regard to the auto parts. With the SARS-CoV-2 virus (corona) it is important to examine the entire RNA strand. Otherwise you will not know whether you are dealing with the whole strand or just some fragments.

7. The coronavirus PCR test has no negative control. The aim is therefore not to rule out the possibility that other coronaviruses have been detected.

8. In the PCR test described in the January 2020 protocol, a number of cycles of 45 is assumed. However, it is not indicated at which number of cycles the test should be read as positive or negative. I would like to point out that at 35 cycles you detect almost no infectious virus anymore. Then you will understand that increasing by more than 35 makes no sense anymore. The test does not indicate when you should start reading and that is a major defect in the test. RIVM first used 30 multiplications as a starting point. You cannot just increase the number of cycles to 35 as the RIVM has done. Then you change the rules during the game. Cycles of between 30 and 35 are also a grey area. Again, after 35 cycles, there is no more infectious virus. This applies to 97% of the cases. This has been scientifically proven.

9. The aforementioned January 2020 publication also shows that the test also gives false positive results. Because the result was negative with retesting. This means that you should always re-test if the test is positive. I do not know if this also happens in practice. I do know, for example, that top athletes in case of a positive test often have themselves re-tested and the test then regularly turns out negative. If I tested positive myself, I would insist that I be retested. If that re-test also turned out positive, I would demand a third test. Only if that third test also turned out positive, then I would like to assume that I have indeed tested positive (aside: that does not mean that I am infected with the virus). Only then will you have reduced the uncertainty about the reliability of the result to minimal proportions.

10. My last but by no means least point of criticism is that the article describing the PCR COVID-19 test is not peer reviewed. Why I think this I have explained above. I find that very bad because the test is used for diagnostics.

He adds: “Incidentally, I also notice that two of the authors of this article are also part of the editorial board. In itself there is nothing wrong with that, but it is an extra reason to be careful with the placement of the article.“

I presume the actual scientific retraction demand, when we see it, will be more precisely formulated.

This seems like an important developing story, that no doubt will be ignored/censored elsewhere.

“China Is Trolling Us”

Lockdown Sceptics regular contributor Dr Clare Craig has written a scathing Twitter thread about the peer-reviewed study in Nature purporting to show that Wuhan had no infectious virus left at all in May. She calls foul on this highly implausible finding, placing the study alongside the earlier ones from China from which came the asymptomatic transmission myth that has been so effective at shutting down Western societies.

China is trolling us with this and Nature should be embarrassed at having published it. It claims 10 million people were tested in the last two weeks of May in Wuhan. That’s over 700k tests a day. I do not believe that – do you? It then claims that not a single Covid case was found, i.e., Covid disease with symptoms capable of spread – weeks after all the drama. I do not believe that – do you? The ultimate trolling is that what they are claiming to report is a 0.003% false positive rate (all their ‘cases’ were asymptomatic, no viral culture and no transmission). I do not even believe that. It is a total fabrication. What’s the point of peer review if it lets something like this into Nature? Scientists have to start looking more critically at the politics. The studies showing asymptomatic spread were almost all Chinese too with non-Chinese studies observing no spread.

Read it here.

A Vivisection of the Idiocy

We are publishing today Part 3 of Dr Roger Hodkinson’s analysis of the Covid lunacy, written back in the summer but published for the first time on Lockdown Sceptics. Find Part 1 here and Part 2 here. From the introduction:

In this Part Three I intend to dismember limb-by-limb virtually every intervention that has been so forcibly foisted on us, using a combination of (largely) common sense and (some) medical knowledge. If my rant seems excessive to sensitive eyes, I urge you to hold your venom until the end, and then compare the utterly indefensible arbitrary measures with the untimely and unnecessary deaths for so many of our loved ones, and the totally unwarranted devastation of the global economy with hundreds of millions (that’s MILLIONS by the way) of people now out of work and facing a highly uncertain future. The manipulated scale of the threat and the inestimable consequences of the so-called ‘control’ measures begs for a vivisection as the beast is still alive. So here it is.

Well worth reading in full.

We hope to publish Part 4 – “The Autopsy” – in a couple of weeks.

Wanted: National Alliance Against Lockdown

The National Alliance Against Lockdown

Kathy Gyngell, editor of the Conservative Woman, has penned an impassioned plea for some properly financed, concerted opposition to the increasingly totalitarian approach of the Government to the pandemic.

It’s crazy. There are several anti-lockdown groups and many brilliantly outspoken critics of lockdown – scientists, businessmen, lawyers and commentators – out there. They include Lord Sumption, Peter Hitchens, Karol Sikora, Carl Heneghan, Luke Johnson, Toby Young and Simon Dolan, to name but a few.

Add to them the 70 MPs of the Covid Recovery Group, led by Graham Brady, Mark Harper and Steve Baker. And also the millions, some 30% of the public, that successive polls show haven’t been roped into the Save Our NHS lockdown mantras.   

Yet despite this evidence of potential dissent, the case against lockdown has had no traction politically – none. Despite the Daily Mail alone of the MSM taking up the cause.

Why? Because beyond following each other on Twitter, publishing and endorsing each other in a new online industry, there’s been no serious or adequately financed, co-ordinated opposition to the Government’s authoritarian diktats. Not that I can see, anyway.

Is it then surprising that however cogent – legally, scientifically and morally – their case is, that these disparate and fragmented groups and individuals have failed to change the conforming mainstream media’s reporting narrative?

Or that, eight months after Britain was turned to the dark side, they’ve failed to prevent a seemingly beleaguered Boris Johnson from entrenching himself in his bunker as the nation’s Big Brother, against whom there is no rising up?

Or, indeed, that we now find ourselves listening to the Prime Minister’s latest and (in true Orwellian style) ever-changing social rules, which he tells us we must endure in the name of this spectral disease through to next October? With every newspaper co-operatively giving its columns over to dutiful explanations of ‘what they mean’ to an already subjugated and compliant public.

Is it surprising that we watch helplessly as Covid-free normality recedes further across the horizon? Or to find that, in this period of restriction, our ‘liberty’ and economic activity is to be conditional on following whatever the latest set of arbitrary rules and/or compliance with vaccination or testing, is chosen for us? 

Kathy goes on to outline nine key points that need to be pressed home to policymakers by this hoped-for alliance, including “how the public have been frightened and misled into supporting lockdown in the deliberate fostering of a climate of fear and hysteria” and “how the populist ‘Save our NHS’ Covid priority policy was misjudged and mismanaged, leaving millions of patients untreated and at risk of illness and death from all other conditions and diseases”.

Worth reading in full.

And any public-spirited philanthropists feeling moved to come to their country’s aid at this time of Government-induced peril, do get in touch.

Round-Up

  • “Economically catastrophic lockdown policies must be brought to an end as soon as possible” – Andrew Lilico speaks sense in the Telegraph. As does Allister Heath
  • “For Greater Manchester, the latest government announcements could be the end of the traditional British pub” – Greater Manchester’s night time economy adviser Sacha Lord writes in the Independent that he is “more fearful than ever about the impact these ill-thought-through moves are having on our society”
  • “We cannot afford to lockdown until a vaccine comes” – William Parker in Bournbrook on why the progress on vaccines should not mean a delay to lifting restrictions
  • “Predictive performance of international COVID-19 mortality forecasting models” – Study from Yale that reveals quite how poor the Imperial College modelling has been in its predictive success – worst of the lot
  • “COVID-19 pandemic is a crisis of democracy” – Perceptive article from George Dance
  • “Covid Wisdom From Ireland: No Blarney Here!” – Omar S. Khan summarises the excellent recent report from the Irish doctors challenging lockdown orthodoxy and adds in some insights from elsewhere
  • “What NO ONE is Saying About The Lockdowns” – Powerful new video (with transcript) from James Corbett on the deadly folly of lockdowns
  • “Covid restrictions show what we’re really like” – Joanna Williams in the Times on the snobbery and hypocrisy that lie behind the love of lockdowns among so many metropolitan “liberals”
  • “Scams led California to send Covid jobless benefits to Scott Peterson, death row inmates” – Report in the LA Times showing once again the extent to which public pandemic schemes are open to fraud
  • “Late rush for coronavirus PPE cost £10 billion extra” – The National Audit Office has totted up the premium the UK paid for being ill-prepared, in the Times. And a lot of it was useless
  • “Macron’s Covid war goes from bad to worse” – Jonathan Miller in the Spectator on the risible record of the president who in August promised there would be no second lockdown
  • “Open Letter From UK Medical Freedom Alliance to the MHRA” – Well-argued letter from the recently established libertarian medical organisation that, among other things, flags up the risks of rushed-out Covid vaccines
  • “Older viewers turning away from BBC” – The Times reports on the annual Ofcom report on the national broadcaster, which finds only 54% of adults believe the BBC provides impartial news
  • “COVID-19 vaccine – is the hype justified?” – Latest post from former NHS Consultant Clinical Psychologist Dr Gary Sidley on his Coronababble blog
  • “What the Covid Vaccine Hype Fails to Mention” – Associate Professor of Medicine Dr Gilbert Berdine urges caution on the Mises Institute blog
  • “The Feminist Case for Opposing Lockdowns” – Naomi Bridges argues the Government is behaving like an abusive partner
  • “COVID-19 antibody surveys underestimate infections: study” – New US CDC study finds the same thing as all the others, in the Medical Xpress
  • “Prevent any restrictions on those who refuse a COVID-19 vaccination” – Sign the petition on the Parliament website, over a quarter of a million so far
  • “The Covid Chronicles” – Support the kickstarter for Ivor Cummins’ documentary project that will “provide an entertaining, evidence based ‘time capsule’ for the COVID-19 pandemic of 2020”
  • “Do lockdowns work?” – Pub chain J D Wetherspoon has produced a 23 page online edition of Wetherspoon News, its pub magazine, with articles from leading academics, doctors and other commentators, highlighting serious flaws in the Government’s reaction to coronavirus

Theme Tunes Suggested by Readers

Just one today: “Fings Ain’t Wot They Used T’Be” by Max Bygraves.

Love in the Time of Covid

We have created some Lockdown Sceptics Forums, including a dating forum called “Love in a Covid Climate” that has attracted a bit of attention. We have a team of moderators in place to remove spam and deal with the trolls, but sometimes it takes a little while so please bear with us. You have to register to use the Forums, but that should just be a one-time thing. Any problems, email the Lockdown Sceptics webmaster Ian Rons here.

Sharing Stories

Some of you have asked how to link to particular stories on Lockdown Sceptics so you can share it. To do that, click on the headline of a particular story and a link symbol will appear on the right-hand side of the headline. Click on the link and the URL of your page will switch to the URL of that particular story. You can then copy that URL and either email it to your friends or post it on social media. Please do share the stories.

Social Media Accounts

You can follow Lockdown Sceptics on our social media accounts which are updated throughout the day. To follow us on Facebook, click here; to follow us on Twitter, click here; to follow us on Instagram, click here; to follow us on Parler, click here; and to follow us on MeWe, click here.

Woke Gobbledegook

We’ve decided to create a permanent slot down here for woke gobbledegook. Today, new guidance from Universities UK stating that vice-chancellors and other senior university leaders “should be given anti-racist training on ‘white privilege'”. From the Telegraph:

Institutions must “go beyond” unconscious bias training when it comes to tackling racial harassment on campus, according to new advice from Universities UK (UUK).

University chiefs, staff and students all need to be taught about “racism, racial harassment and microaggressions and white privilege” through training that is drawn up specially form an anti-racism perspective, the guidance says.

UUK, an organisation which represents vice-chancellors, has published recommendations for senior leaders to eradicate racial harassment at universities.

It comes after a report by the Equality and Human Rights Commission last year found that there was an “alarmingly high rate” of racial harassment on university campuses.

Nearly a quarter of ethnic minority students said they had experienced racial harassment at UK universities, according to the watchdog’s report which concluded that many universities are unaware of the scale of the problem and are overconfident in their ability to respond to it.

The guidance, from the advisory group set up by UUK, calls on senior leaders and governing bodies to acknowledge issues that exist in their universities and acknowledge that higher education “perpetuates institutional racism”.

Universities are also told to review their curricula to ensure that they are teaching students in a way that is “diverse and inclusive”.

The guidance notes that “curricula that are based on Eurocentric, typically white voices will perpetuate existing inequalities”. It adds that teaching courses from such a perspective is “unlikely to reflect the experience or viewpoints of many members of the student and staff body”.

UUK cited a report published last year by the National Union of Students which claimed that a lack of a “sense of belonging” may contribute to the black, Asian and minority ethnic students performing less well academically.

Perhaps UUK would like to explain why “white” children in UK state schools are the least likely racial group to go to university? Where’s the “white privilege” there? And one would have thought that European universities would be entitled to teach their own academic and literary traditions. Are European institutions no longer to be allowed to sustain a distinctive intellectual culture? Is that not why people from all over the world come to study in them?

Stop Press: Seems like a good time to recap this excellent piece from Quillette back in February: “The Misguided Moral Panic About Racism in British Universities” by Wanjiru Njoya and Doug Stokes. As they point out, the notion that British unis are hotbeds of racism is completely bonkers. They are among the least racist institutions in the world.

“Mask Exempt” Lanyards

We’ve created a one-stop shop down here for people who want to buy (or make) a “Mask Exempt” lanyard/card. You can print out and laminate a fairly standard one for free here and it has the advantage of not explicitly claiming you have a disability. But if you have no qualms about that (or you are disabled), you can buy a lanyard from Amazon saying you do have a disability/medical exemption here (takes a while to arrive). The Government has instructions on how to download an official “Mask Exempt” notice to put on your phone here. You can get a “Hidden Disability” tag from ebay here and an “exempt” card with lanyard for just £1.99 from Etsy here. And, finally, if you feel obliged to wear a mask but want to signal your disapproval of having to do so, you can get a “sexy world” mask with the Swedish flag on it here.

Don’t forget to sign the petition on the UK Government’s petitions website calling for an end to mandatory face masks in shops here.

A reader has started a website that contains some useful guidance about how you can claim legal exemption.

If you’re a shop owner and you want to let your customers know you want be insisting on face masks or asking them what their reasons for exemption are, you can download a friendly sign to stick in your window here.

And here’s an excellent piece about the ineffectiveness of masks by a Roger W. Koops, who has a doctorate in organic chemistry.

Stop Press: A famous doctor who demanded a mandatory mask law has been snapped partying maskless on a boat surrounded by bikini-clad women in the latest instance of hypocrisy from one of our self-appointed moral guardians. Mikhail Varshavski (pictured in the blue cap below), known as “Dr Mike” online and dubbed the world’s “hottest doctor”, was celebrating his 31st birthday in flagrant breach of the very rules he has been insisting on for everyone else.

Read the full story in Summit News.

The Great Barrington Declaration

Professor Martin Kulldorff, Professor Sunetra Gupta and Professor Jay Bhattacharya

The Great Barrington Declaration, a petition started by Professor Martin Kulldorff, Professor Sunetra Gupta and Professor Jay Bhattacharya calling for a strategy of “Focused Protection” (protect the elderly and the vulnerable and let everyone else get on with life), was launched last month and the lockdown zealots have been doing their best to discredit it ever since. If you Googled it a week after launch, the top hits were three smear pieces from the Guardian, including: “Herd immunity letter signed by fake experts including ‘Dr Johnny Bananas’.” (Freddie Sayers at UnHerd warned us about this the day before it appeared.) On the bright side, Google UK has stopped shadow banning it, so the actual Declaration now tops the search results – and my Spectator piece about the attempt to suppress it is among the top hits – although discussion of it has been censored by Reddit. The reason the zealots hate it, of course, is that it gives the lie to their claim that “the science” only supports their strategy. These three scientists are every bit as eminent – more eminent – than the pro-lockdown fanatics so expect no let up in the attacks. (Wikipedia has also done a smear job.)

You can find it here. Please sign it. Now over 700,000 signatures.

Update: The authors of the GDB have expanded the FAQs to deal with some of the arguments and smears that have been made against their proposal. Worth reading in full.

Update 2: Many of the signatories of the Great Barrington Declaration are involved with new UK anti-lockdown campaign Recovery. Find out more and join here.

Update 3: You can watch Sunetra Gupta set out the case for “Focused Protection” here and Jay Bhattacharya make it here.

Update 4: The three GBD authors plus Prof Carl Heneghan of CEBM have launched a new website collateralglobal.org, “a global repository for research into the collateral effects of the COVID-19 lockdown measures”.

Judicial Reviews Against the Government

There are now so many JRs being brought against the Government and its ministers, we thought we’d include them all in one place down here.

First, there’s the Simon Dolan case. You can see all the latest updates and contribute to that cause here.

Then there’s the Robin Tilbrook case. You can read about that and contribute here.

Then there’s John’s Campaign which is focused specifically on care homes. Find out more about that here.

There’s the GoodLawProject’s Judicial Review of the Government’s award of lucrative PPE contracts to various private companies. You can find out more about that here and contribute to the crowdfunder here.

The Night Time Industries Association has instructed lawyers to JR any further restrictions on restaurants, pubs and bars.

And last but not least there’s the Free Speech Union‘s challenge to Ofcom over its ‘coronavirus guidance’. You can read about that and make a donation here.

Samaritans

If you are struggling to cope, please call Samaritans for free on 116 123 (UK and ROI), email jo@samaritans.org or visit the Samaritans website to find details of your nearest branch. Samaritans is available round the clock, every single day of the year, providing a safe place for anyone struggling to cope, whoever they are, however they feel, whatever life has done to them.

Quotation Corner

It’s easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.

Mark Twain

Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, one by one.

Charles Mackay

They who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

Benjamin Franklin

To do evil a human being must first of all believe that what he’s doing is good, or else that it’s a well-considered act in conformity with natural law. Fortunately, it is in the nature of the human being to seek a justification for his actions…

Ideology – that is what gives the evildoing its long-sought justification and gives the evildoer the necessary steadfastness and determination.

Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

No lesson seems to be so deeply inculcated by the experience of life as that you never should trust experts. If you believe the doctors, nothing is wholesome: if you believe the theologians, nothing is innocent: if you believe the soldiers, nothing is safe. They all require to have their strong wine diluted by a very large admixture of insipid common sense.

Robert Gascoyne-Cecil, 3rd Marquess of Salisbury

Nothing would be more fatal than for the Government of States to get into the hands of experts. Expert knowledge is limited knowledge and the unlimited ignorance of the plain man, who knows where it hurts, is a safer guide than any rigorous direction of a specialist.

Sir Winston Churchill

If it disagrees with experiment, it’s wrong. In that simple statement is the key to science.

Richard Feynman

Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

C.S. Lewis

The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants.

Albert Camus

We’ve arranged a global civilization in which most crucial elements profoundly depend on science and technology. We have also arranged things so that almost no one understands science and technology. This is a prescription for disaster. We might get away with it for a while, but sooner or later this combustible mixture of ignorance and power is going to blow up in our faces.

Carl Sagan

Political language – and with variations this is true of all political parties, from Conservatives to Anarchists – is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind.

George Orwell

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane.

Marcus Aurelius

Necessity is the plea for every restriction of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.

William Pitt the Younger

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Cristi.Neagu
Cristi.Neagu
5 years ago

I’d like to suggest “Iron Hand” by Dire Straits as a theme song. It’s about the Battle of Orgreave during the miner strikes in the ’80s. It’s about the legalised violence and sheer abuse of power shown by police forces towards protesters. Towards the people. I thought it’s fitting, considering the current behaviour of the police towards people.
https://youtu.be/1oHfnggzIaA

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l835
l835
5 years ago
Reply to  Cristi.Neagu

Let’s not forget the BBC edited footage to show the miners charging the police first, when in reality it was the police who made the first mother way round

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Cristi.Neagu
Cristi.Neagu
5 years ago
Reply to  l835

Not sure how anyone can honestly believe a state funded network can be impartial.

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Cristi.Neagu
Cristi.Neagu
5 years ago
Reply to  l835

It is all standard practice these days. Produce fake news, filled with lies and manipulation, and then later claim that it was a mistake and “we apologise for any inconvenience”. But by that point the damage is done. The narrative you wanted to uphold passed, the public were deceived, and no one bothers looking at the amendments.
Sometimes i wish that the press be held legally responsible for deliberately publishing demonstrable lies and inaccuracies. The media has a lot of power and a lot of freedom, but freedom and power must come with responsibilities, and one such responsibility has to be to not deceive or lie to the public.

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Kf99
Kf99
5 years ago
Reply to  Cristi.Neagu

Excellent. Ashamed to say the subject of the song never occurred to me. A Lockdown sceptics anthem…

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Nigel Sherratt
Nigel Sherratt
5 years ago
Reply to  Cristi.Neagu

If only Arthur were in charge of the People’s Republic he would know what to do.

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Nigel Sherratt
Nigel Sherratt
5 years ago
Reply to  Cristi.Neagu

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2BryPAxJdc

BBCFNC some surprises here, all is not as BBC, Guardian, Michael Mansfield would have you believe.

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Adam
Adam
5 years ago
Reply to  Nigel Sherratt

Mansfield is one of the good guys so is Johnathan Sumption hates the establishment and Royalty bullshit

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Caroline Watson
Caroline Watson
5 years ago
Reply to  Cristi.Neagu

Brilliant. In those days the working class left would have led the protests, together with students. Since then, the destruction of the traditional industries, followed by the state dependence created by the Blair years has neutralised the working class, and students are more interested in their ‘identities’.
It is that dependence on the state, and the rise of identity politics as a narcissistic distraction, that has paved the way for the current compliance of most of the population.

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Cristi.Neagu
Cristi.Neagu
5 years ago
Reply to  Caroline Watson

Well, it’s still the left that organizes protests and riots, as we can see from the US. But the greatest trick of the ruling classes was to fool the left in rioting for them rather than against them. It probably has to do with the fact that the left is no longer working class.

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Kf99
Kf99
5 years ago
Reply to  Cristi.Neagu

Indeed and first spotted during the anti-brexit protests. As someone memorably said “I remember when the youth protested against the establishment – now they protest in favour of it”

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GCarty80
GCarty80
5 years ago
Reply to  Kf99

And the billionaire newspaper barons who propagandized the public to vote for Brexit are somehow not “the establishment”?

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Cristi.Neagu
Cristi.Neagu
5 years ago
Reply to  GCarty80

Not entirely sure, to be honest, but i don’t think so. I don’t think Brexit was something the establishment wanted, and that’s very apparent from how it was sabotaged at every step.

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Binra
Binra
5 years ago
Reply to  Cristi.Neagu

Sabotaged at every step is what I see as ‘managed’.
Start of with a brand name and then control the opposition,
Hedge your bets both ways. Fear and division – like dolphins working the shoal. Now the feeding frenzy.

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Hill Street Bluez
Hill Street Bluez
5 years ago
Reply to  GCarty80

A fair point to make. Many people on here would subscribe to the idea of the MSM influencing the masses especially in relation to Covid. Would point out though that the government and the television news people were rabid remainers and propagandised accordingly… and that the present pro lockdown propaganda dwarfs the puny efforts of both leave and remain

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Hill Street Bluez
Hill Street Bluez
5 years ago
Reply to  Hill Street Bluez

Although some people believe that leavers are gullible… remainers and pro lockdown fanatics are wise and wonderful human beings…😂

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George L
George L
5 years ago
Reply to  Caroline Watson

Excellent reply.. as someone in my late 60s I’ve been thinking about exactly the things you’ve mentioned..

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Nigel Sherratt
Nigel Sherratt
5 years ago
Reply to  Cristi.Neagu

David Wilkie taxi driver 9/7/1949 – 30/11/1984. Lest we forget. I womder if Arthur has forgotten him as he sits in his swanky Barbican flat (bought for £1million, half price, using Thatcher’s right to buy policy although it isn’t his only home, still cheaper than having to pay the rent as he was finally forced to).

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karenovirus
karenovirus
5 years ago

Good Morning Judy.

BBC Radio spent yesterday sneering at Rishi Sunak as the cost of the Deadly Pandemic began to emerge, all of their news and programme presenters used variations of

‘told you so it’s all your fault and now there’s gonna be tax rises and cutbacks !’

As though they had not enthusiastically supported lockdown from the start and beyond.
One or two even figured out what has been predicted here at LS for months. That the debt incurred by lockdown will take generations to repay.

On a brighter note the audience for Question Time has slumped to 600,000, its lowest ever.

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annie
annie
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

One day the BBC will come round to the idea that lockdown was the wrong policy right from the start. Probably too late to do any good, but it will.

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annie
annie
5 years ago
Reply to  annie

Too right they will.

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Barney McGrew
Barney McGrew
5 years ago
Reply to  annie

I don’t think they will. The narrative is always going to be that the lockdowns would have worked if only the troublesome people had obeyed the ‘rules’ properly. If only the authorities had clamped down sooner on ‘dangerous misinformation’ etc.

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Edward
Edward
5 years ago
Reply to  Barney McGrew

I agree with you, Barney. Myths become established in the mainstream media and the myth here will be as you say, plus lockdown should have been earlier and harsher.

Incidentally, are Pugh, Pugh, Cuthbert, Dibble and Grubb also lockdown sceptics?

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Aslangeo
Aslangeo
5 years ago
Reply to  annie

Arrogant organisations find it very difficult to admit that they were wrong and the mental gymnastics and cognitive dissonance will continue for a very long time despite mounting evidence. Eventually the truth is admitted and previous views quietly buried, and everyone was a member of the French Resistance.

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JohnB
JohnB
5 years ago
Reply to  Aslangeo

Agree with this, except for the assumption that they were wrong. They played their scripted part in the ‘great’ reset.

They might well change their tune in the future, but what they say then will probably be lies as well.

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BeBopRockSteady
BeBopRockSteady
5 years ago
Reply to  annie

I know that has to happen but the games they’ll play to wring their hands of the complicity will be excruciating. Scenario 1: PCR is decalred a fraud and the casedemic is fully revealed. The BBC News are up in arms. “How could they do this?” Always aware that there had been cases building and cases won and they never once chose to shine a light on it.

Last night the local ‘investigative’ journalism programme Spotlight, went into the local T and T system. They had zero depth. It was all based on the assumption that lockdowns are needed unless we throw more money at T and T to bring ‘cases’ down.

Half an hour of my life, wasted.

It concluded its investigation with a couple min rant from Prof Scally who warned us all, again, that this was the plague and lockdowns were necessary. The harder the better.

In case you don’t remember Scally here he is.

https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/maajid-nawaz/epidemiologist-on-cost-of-second-lockdown-coronavirus/

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

This is another nail in the coffin of the BBC. They together with their colleagues in the MSM have pushed for the lockdown and growing restrictions with their hysterical coverage, fake stats, fake footage and fake data.

So when Sunak announces pay freezes in the public sector as well as cuts and possible tax raids, what did they expect?

There’s no such thing as a free lunch but the morons in the Beeb would never understand that as they’ve been swimming in freebies for years, even decades now.

The virus is now gone but the social, economic, psychological costs will be with us for years, decades and with the psychological perhaps they will be with us for life.

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Julian
Julian
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

The BBC are pro lockdown but they hate the Tories. Any move by the government to get back to normal will be slaughtered by the BBC, but equally any economic distress will be the government’s fault for not locking down sooner, not doing T&T better, not investing more in the NHS in previous years, not printing more money, not taxing the rich enough etc etc.

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Mark
Mark
5 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Well we could grasp that and see the inevitable results coming from a mile off. How come the big brains in Downing St thought they could somehow ride the tiger without getting eaten in the end?

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Julian
Julian
5 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Good question. Hubris? Maybe they were going to mount some token attacks on the BBC but now realise they need them.

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GCarty80
GCarty80
5 years ago
Reply to  Mark

The SS were called a “protection squadron” because they were originally set up as Hitler’s personal bodyguard.

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Jo Dominich
Jo Dominich
5 years ago
Reply to  Julian

It’seems not just the BBC is it though? I TV C4 and C5 are just as bad not to mention the MSN with the exception of the DM. The massive scale of the propaganda and manufactured hysteria would have made Stalin proud.

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JohnB
JohnB
5 years ago
Reply to  Jo Dominich

The DM were just as bad as the others back from Feb to May. Their more recent shift to lockdown scepticism seems to me to be just another part of the plan.

Worth remembering that there was only Hitchens in the msm speaking honestly back in the spring.

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Liam
Liam
5 years ago
Reply to  JohnB

Hitch must get fed up of being the lone voice in the wilderness. On WMD in Iraq, the rush to war in Libya and Syria, now this.

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Mark
Mark
5 years ago
Reply to  JohnB

“The DM were just as bad as the others back from Feb to May. Their more recent shift to lockdown scepticism seems to me to be just another part of the plan.” That is simply incorrect. I well recall the DM as being just about the only place publishing at least the occasional bit of scepticism, albeit amidst plenty of the establishment stuff, back even in April. They really were different and categorically better than the rest of the “msm”, barring the Telegraph and Spectator. Here, for instance, they are publishing Carl Heneghan – at that time seriously subversive stuff – on 20th April, and what’s more under a headline calling him “leading expert”. This doesn’t seem remarkable now, but it really was back in April! UK announces 449 more coronavirus deaths – the fewest for a fortnight as leading expert argues Britain’s crisis peaked BEFORE lockdown and claims fatality rate could be as low as 0.1% NHS England said a further 429 people have died in its hospitals – just 85 of those died yesterday, April 19  Oxford University Professor Carl Heneghan said the UK’s outbreak peaked back in March He said data showed this but ministers had ‘lost… Read more »

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JohnB
JohnB
5 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Fair enough. I guess that was the earliest one you could find though ? 🙂

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Mark
Mark
5 years ago
Reply to  JohnB

Didn’t look very hard – that one’s saved in my “covid references” folder.

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Julian
Julian
5 years ago
Reply to  Jo Dominich

They have all bought into the narrative though are probably not all as anti-Tory as the BBC (probably with the exception of C4, which is state media).

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Steph
Steph
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

I hope that some economists are right and that with the right policies we can grow our way out of much of the debt. The problem being the small likelihood of having a government that would implement the right policies rather than unimaginative tax hikes and damaging green restrictions.
Of course, we can’t grow our way out of the damage to people’s health and some small businesses will never recover.

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richard riewer
richard riewer
5 years ago
Reply to  Steph

The alternative build back better. We can do better than them.

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flyingjohn
flyingjohn
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

I never, ever, ever, listen or watch the BBC. Consequently I don’t get as mad and depressed as people who do……….

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DomW
DomW
5 years ago
Reply to  flyingjohn

Not a blanket ban here but no BBC news, current arrairs, chat show or any other broadcast which promotes/validates coronamania is allowed air-time

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Jamie
Jamie
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

So many are switching off the news because it’s non-stop Covid propaganda. Sue Cook, ex BBC presenter, said she can’t bear the BBC anymore

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microdave
microdave
5 years ago
Reply to  Jamie

I only put it on for the weather (which is just another “forecast” anyway). If I’m feeling really brave I’ll scan through the Red Button news (Ceefax to oldies like me!). At least this gives me the opportunity to ignore anything clearly fake…

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Cheezilla
Cheezilla
5 years ago
Reply to  microdave

You still have a tv licence?
You can get the weather online free – and more quickly, any time to suit.

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crimsonpirate
crimsonpirate
5 years ago
Reply to  microdave

you mention the weather-Piers Corbyn claims he was banned from bidding to take over the Weather forecast from the Met office

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karenovirus
karenovirus
5 years ago

“Hospitals Still Not Protecting Patients From Covid.”
It is surely unbelievable that health authorities have still not learned the lessons of the past when infectious diseases were defeated by Isolating them with Isolation Hospitals.
As was said here months ago the Nightingales should have been built with this in mind but that would have required them to be single story to avoid lifts and staircases.

No doubt the Isolation Protocols taught to my SRN* mum in the 1940s exist only in dusty paper files not accessible to spreadsheets and algorithms.

*State Registered Nurse.

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Natalie
Natalie
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Yes, being a nurse and ward sister from the 80s to the 90s I can identify with your comments. Cleaners were part of the team, a vested interest in the whole patient outcome and valued as such. Once ousted and contract cleaners used, obviously there was no longer any vested interest in doing a good job, just come in, do the minimum and out. As a ward sister, nothing got past me, and as you mentioned any post op wound infections were thoroughly investigated, though they were rare, now it seems to be the norm. Equally with pressure sores – they were rightfully seen as negligence and a result of poor nursing care, and therefore not seen on properly run wards.

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wendyk
wendyk
5 years ago
Reply to  Natalie

I witnessed the privatisation of the cleaning services in the late 90s when working at a hospital in Bath: all the NHS cleaners left, not wishing to find themselves working for Securicor.

Agency cleaners replaced the professionals with the dire results which you describe.

I also attempted to persuade ward staff to open windows, to allow for crucial ventilation, without success.

My late Mum was a VAD in WW2, and told me of the hours spent cleaning and disinfecting every area.

Finally, the old style nightingale wards had large windows ,which could be opened at the top by means of window poles. This was done regularly many years ago when I was in my early 20s and working as an auxiliary in a Manchester teaching hospital.

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Cheezilla
Cheezilla
5 years ago
Reply to  Natalie

The cleaners would chat to the patients too, which meant social contact for the patients and extra eyes to monitor their wellbeing.

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annie
annie
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

My poor dad died in 2011 (on the ghastly Liverpool path, for which we will never, never, never forgive the NHS) in a side alcove to a surgical ward in Addenbrooke’s. There was a bottle of hand sanitiser mounted by the door, but it was empty. Despite our repeated requests for it to be refilled, it never was.

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Steph
Steph
5 years ago
Reply to  annie

The Liverpool pathway – how dreadful. And in Addies, one of our “world beating” teaching hospitals. It makes me so angry. I’m very sorry he and your family went through that.

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annie
annie
5 years ago
Reply to  Steph

Oh yes, they can beat the world in ‘teaching’ and ‘research’. But they are world crap at mopping the floor.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Good rant.
My mums first rule of nursing was

‘Make sure the drains are clean and if they are not clean them yourself’

When I told her in the 1990s that hospitals were disposing of their direct labour maintenance crews in favour of contractors she predicted hospital disease immediately.

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annie
annie
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

And as for ‘clean them yourself’… nurses are graduates, they won’t stoop to lowly things like mopping floors. I remember my dad being in a ward whose floor was so dirty that your feet stuck to it as you tried to walk. And he was diabetic, and they let him walk about in open-toed sandals, then discharged him with a virulent infection that turned his feet and calves swollen and black.

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Jamie
Jamie
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

‘Protecting from Covid’ = denying freedom to live

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annie
annie
5 years ago
Reply to  Jamie

‘Staying safe’ – not living

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Llamasaurus Rex
Llamasaurus Rex
5 years ago
Reply to  annie

‘Be kind’ – be an absolute arse who preaches, projects, spews bile and wants to censure, hating all those you disagree with.

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wendyk
wendyk
5 years ago
Reply to  Llamasaurus Rex

Stopping the spread : cessation of respiration-death. It would save the Covidists a lot of bother wouldn’t it?

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SweetBabyCheeses
SweetBabyCheeses
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Is it desirable or even possible that we “defeat” covid in the same way that the original isolation hospitals defeated things like cholera, typhoid, smallpox, measles and Scarlett fever?
I know it’s a novel virus hence why it’s a pandemic, but if it was possible to run hospitals in this way then wouldn’t we have separate wards for flu and non-flu patients?
I believe that hospitals are doing all the they can to prevent the nosocomial spread, it’s just that they recognise that there’s limits to that in order to keep the hospital going for other patients too!
Nightingale hospitals are a different matter though…it seems they were originally intended to be ventilator death factories. A real shame that they have never been put to an alternative use.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
5 years ago
Reply to  SweetBabyCheeses

Quite so, we won’t and don’t need to Defeat covid but hospitals should still be able to prevent cross infection as they learned to do in the past.
My mum went in for a hip replacement in her late 70s coming out 2 months later having been given Hospital Disease as a direct result of NHS practices.

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JohnB
JohnB
5 years ago
Reply to  SweetBabyCheeses

…it seems they were originally intended to be ventilator death factories.

Or were they originally intended to be just a massive PR operation ?

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Binra
Binra
5 years ago
Reply to  JohnB

There is unlimited funding for props – but that doesn’t mean the mind capture is intended for entertainment.
Its all a PR operation of deceit under whatever fronts and is more deeply laid than people think.

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

This doesn’t surprise me. A few years’ ago, I was buying some make up at a department store for an upcoming job interview. The make up artist who assisted me was a former nurse and we got chatting. When I asked her why she left, she replied that standards were slipping and the move to make nursing a degree subject, it wasn’t the same profession she trained for as she observed.

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Steph
Steph
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Rants are entirely justified in the circumstances, Judy.
I recall a short stay in hospital in the 70s when everything had a reassuring and distinctive clean smell. The hospital in which my mother had several stays at the end of her life 2019 – 2020 smelt mostly of various bodily fluids. It cannot possibly have been clean.

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Steph
Steph
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

I’ve just made an almost identical post. We can’t both have been imagining it.

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PastImperfect
PastImperfect
5 years ago
Reply to  Steph

Me too.

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PWL
PWL
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Hospitals still not protecting patients from the sasquatch either. Why oh why haven’t they learned the lessons of the past, damn them!

This is the problem, right here. This readership thinks “Covid” (no one ever uses the correct name, not many people know what they’re talking about) is infectious.

Covid-19 In A Nutshell

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Binra
Binra
5 years ago
Reply to  PWL

Thinking can be infectious. The power of thought is recognised by those who leverage disproportionate wealth to control narratives by ‘post truth’ manipulations. Awakened responsibility can recognise contradictory incongruence and weaponised provocation to emotionally reactive investment. But once invested, the identity operates to protect its investment and does not readily withdraw such defence to honestly question its interpretation of reality. More so when social pressures demonise and vilify critical awareness under moral crusade. The protection of a core narrative for control over a century or more is a massive funding of invested identity and like the banks – deemed too big to fail question. The anthropomorphising of microbiology is the projection of a psychopathy to ‘pathogen’ by which poisons, and toxic exposure – along with key deficiencies operate a progressive and sustained undermining of the body’s natural healing, regenerating and rebalancing. The anti-biotic mindset is unaware of the communication and support that the microbiome is and does. “It may shock you to know that all the world’s bacteria have access to a single gene pool, which has provided an immense resource for adaptation, manifesting an array of breathtaking combinations and re-combinations for three billion years! Any bacterium—at any time—has the… Read more »

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Cheezilla
Cheezilla
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

1996: My Mum was moved to a sideroom because she was being barrier-nursed after chemo.
There was a huge dustball under the bed!

We were supposed to don a plastic apron before entering. The aprons were dumped on a chair outside her room, which would often disappear at visiting time.

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Dorian_Hawkmoon
Dorian_Hawkmoon
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Project 2000 (degrees and abolition of SENs and auxiliaries) did for nursing.
Outsourcing did the rest. (20 yrs nursing.)

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wendyk
wendyk
5 years ago

Brief anecdote from ‘ The Progressive Collective of Saor Alba’:
a quick dash to local supermarket yesterday, later than my usual time.
Busy, but once again, mine was the only bare face to be seen.
The zombification of the locals is almost complete: they stare blankly at my open face, or shuffle past, eyes down.
This is so utterly depressing and dehumanising that I no longer bother to try and make eye contact, other than to greet and show my lanyard to the friendly security guards.
Even the pharmacists at our local chemist are less friendly than before and no longer smile, although they know me well.
Dystopia and anomie are now dominant.

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annie
annie
5 years ago
Reply to  wendyk

Sounds as if the Turdgeon has almost achieved her aim: a Scotland without human beings.
Are the remoter areas – the Highlands, islands, etc. – just as bad?

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wendyk
wendyk
5 years ago
Reply to  annie

I don’t know Annie; I suspect that the Shetlands and Orkneys are less enthused-as they want to secede from Sturgeon-land, but my area is confined to Tier 4,with no visible resistance.

It is unbelievably depressing.

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annie
annie
5 years ago
Reply to  wendyk

My in-laws used to live not too far from the Campsie Hills. Do you ever get out there? It was lovely for walking, and Turdgeon can’t blight the countryside, surely?

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wendyk
wendyk
5 years ago
Reply to  annie

I haven’t been there yet Annie, but the Sturgeon’s writ runs large here, so I guess many country areas are also under heavy manners.

However, Dumfries and Galloway has not voted for an SNP person to date, so there is some hope, and it is a largely rural area.

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annie
annie
5 years ago
Reply to  wendyk

We had a lovely holiday in D andG once. It’s wild and wonderful.
Have you read The Thirty-Nine Steps? It has a wonderful evocation of that area.

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wendyk
wendyk
5 years ago
Reply to  annie

Another favourite of mine; I know we share a love of M R James’s wonderful stories as well.

I think we should share more book recommendations to help keep people’s spirits up.

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David Grimbleby
David Grimbleby
5 years ago
Reply to  wendyk

Yes , but leave the light on when you read .. ‘Oh Whistle and I’ll come to You’ and the film by Jonathon Miller is terrifying..Algernon Blackwoods supernatural tales are good. But the master at great humorous writing is PG Woodhouse, great escapism.. needed!

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wendyk
wendyk
5 years ago
Reply to  David Grimbleby

I’ve got a treasured old book of Algernon Blackwood’s tales, and I love the Jonathan Miller film; a classic.

For helpless laughter, I recommend Don Martin’s cartoons for Mad magazine.

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annie
annie
5 years ago
Reply to  David Grimbleby

The most horrific M R James story has to be ‘Count Magnus’ – definitely not one to be read alone on a dark and stormy night.
For a magnificent evocation of the Suffolk coast, try ‘A warning to the curious’. And for the Dorset (?) countryside, ‘A view from a hill’. The ghosts are just a bonus!

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Suze Burtenshaw
Suze Burtenshaw
5 years ago
Reply to  wendyk

Good Morning, Wendy. I had my usual check out of Shetland webcams a couple of weeks ago and was bitterly disappointed to see a couple of people scuttling across the Market Square wearing masks. This is the land of horizontal washing ie it is so windy! Masks being worn in those conditions? Really?! I was so sad at that because I thought, like you, they would have no truck with la Sturgeon’s diktats. Oh well….

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wendyk
wendyk
5 years ago
Reply to  Suze Burtenshaw

O what a disappointment! I’d hoped that good sense would prevail there.

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GiftWrappedKittyCat
GiftWrappedKittyCat
5 years ago
Reply to  annie

Turdgeon! You’ve made my day Annie, that’s what she will be known as to me from now on. Thanks 😂

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annie
annie
5 years ago
Reply to  GiftWrappedKittyCat

Somebody else yesterday invented it!

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Cheezilla
Cheezilla
5 years ago
Reply to  annie

I spotted it in the comments in one of the newspapers. Can’t remember which but it’s a definitely a keeper.

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microdave
microdave
5 years ago
Reply to  annie

The Turdgeon

Brilliant!

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Steph
Steph
5 years ago
Reply to  wendyk

You gave me a new word (to me) to look up. I love it when that happens.

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richard riewer
richard riewer
5 years ago
Reply to  Steph

HRH Nicola Turdgeon.

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Allen
Allen
5 years ago

Press conference in Spain with the participation of hundreds of professionals from around the world, “Truth Doctors”, who denounced that Covid-19 is a false pandemic created for political purposes. They urged doctors, the media and political authorities to stop the operation, spread the truth. Data, figures, analysis and reflections were presented that show the incoherent and harmfulness of the measures that are being applied worldwide around Covid-19. https://youtu.be/McQ7v9kKLxk   “This is a world dictatorship with a sanitary excuse,” was stressed at the end of the meeting. Doctors agreed that: 1. Coronavirus victims did not outnumber last year’s seasonal flu deaths. 2. Figures were exaggerated by altering medical protocols. 3. The confinement of the healthy and the forced use of masks have no scientific basis. 4. The disease known as Covid-19 does not have a single infectious pattern, but a combination of them. That the politicians stop the nonsense of the crown and spread the truth instead of false propaganda and that the doctors and the media tell the truth despite the orders of their superiors. Basically the financial sector hit max and has blown, happened September 2019. Covid19 was/is being used to cover this up. Corporations of the world and their owners… Read more »

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Cristi.Neagu
Cristi.Neagu
5 years ago
Reply to  Allen

We are f…….d if we accept this.

And… you really think these people set all this plan in motion if it all hinged on us accepting it or not? Nah, my friend. I think we’re way past that. Saying ‘no’ is not enough to stop this.

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annie
annie
5 years ago
Reply to  Cristi.Neagu

Doing no is what’s needed.

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6097 Smith W
6097 Smith W
5 years ago
Reply to  annie

It starts with no

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Basileus
Basileus
5 years ago
Reply to  6097 Smith W

.. and continues with doing.

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Jamie
Jamie
5 years ago
Reply to  Allen

I still don’t know anyone who’s had the virus. I wonder if I’m dreaming all of this

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Alan P
Alan P
5 years ago
Reply to  Jamie

my Sister had a loss of sense of taste and smell, felt a bit grotty. Took a PCR test, got a positive. She’s in her 50’s and suffers with asthma (mask exempt). But said, either this virus isn’t as bad as people make out, or I don’t have it!

SIL (64) works in a care home and has a test each week. Got a positive a few months back. Isolated few a few weeks. Now back working. Mild symptoms. Still can’t smell or taste, but recovering slowly.

I think that the above examples are true for 99% of the “cases” in the country.

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richard riewer
richard riewer
5 years ago
Reply to  Alan P

Covid-19 was a test. They will ratchet it up next time around. We need to create a global movement to close down all Bio Labs. These people cannot be trusted.

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Steph
Steph
5 years ago
Reply to  Jamie

It’s real but the overreaction is criminal. I have 2 relatives who caught it in a clinical setting and it was a very nasty flu like illness which took quite a while to recover from.
Interestingly neither of them infected the people they lived closely with. Would that be what we normal people call immunity?

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Thomas_E
Thomas_E
5 years ago
Reply to  Jamie

I do …my nan who is 93, she recovered in 2 days in and 3 days later she was back in the shops. So deadly!

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Mel
Mel
5 years ago
Reply to  Jamie

A couple of close friends postive tested this monday. She asked for the test (!) because she lost her sense of taste and smell. He’s had pretty much no symptoms at all. Despite government blaming hospitality, they didnt catch it in a pub as the pubs are shut, and were definitely negative 9 days before, when they were both tested as he needed an operation on an injured knee. Since he’s laid up with a pot on and she’s working from home, where do we think they acquired it?

Anyone?

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annie
annie
5 years ago
Reply to  Mel

He got it in hospital, for a cert.

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DoubtingDave
DoubtingDave
5 years ago

I would recommend The Delingpod, podcast with guest Patrick M Wood. (episode 130)

If a few non believers listen to this they may wake up thinking they are having a nightmare.

The all important link, this is on Apple:

https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-delingpod-the-james-delingpole-podcast/id1449753062?i=1000500028161

Last edited 5 years ago by DoubtingDave
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Disbelief
Disbelief
5 years ago
Reply to  DoubtingDave

The works of A C Sutton mentioned by Wood are also to be highly recommended for those trying to understand the bigger picture.

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richard riewer
richard riewer
5 years ago
Reply to  Disbelief

https://bolenreport.com/saul-alinskys-12-rules-radicals/
Rules for Radicals. Highly recommended by Mark Windows. He suggests using these rules to counter the globablist agenda.

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Jez Hewitt
Jez Hewitt
5 years ago
Reply to  DoubtingDave

I almost crashed the car listening to this on my way to see my mum last night. She said I looked a bit shell shocked and stressed. She wasn’t wrong.

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zubin
zubin
5 years ago
Reply to  DoubtingDave

This is long and absolutely brilliant and puts into historical perspective the whole reset. Our PM almost certainly has been knobbled.

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Mark H
Mark H
5 years ago

I’ve been into Glasgow’s city centre probably 3 times in total since March. Before then I’d visit the west part of Sauchiehall Street, and the Pitt Street area, at least once a week as I’d drive to an erstwhile client’s premises. This part of Sauchiehall Street, perhaps the busiest street in Glasgow (Glaswegians use the phrase “it’s like Sauchiehall Street in here!” to refer to something being busy), has a stretch of restaurants, clubs and bars that on a weekend are absolutely rammed. Visit this part of the street on a Saturday night and you’ll struggle to walk along the pavement, such is the strength of its nighttime economy. During the day office workers would play avoid the student as they milled back and forth between their office blocks and the cafes and coffee shops. I counted maybe 3 people walking the pavements. Almost every other business premises is boarded up or shuttered. Graffiti covering the laminate boards. One part on the north side of the street has a 300 yard stretch which houses the Garage night club, Campus Bar and the O2 ABC, the latter being an art deco cinema repurposed as an iconic concert venue. Now this stretch… Read more »

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annie
annie
5 years ago
Reply to  Mark H

So Glasgow has been self-blitzing? No surprises there, considering that the whole of Scotland clearly has a death wish.
What you say reminds me of Daphne du Maurier’s description of a place during the Black Death which ‘suggest[ed] the abandonment of all hope, the aftertaste of atomic doom’. (In The House of the Strand.)

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Rowan
Rowan
5 years ago
Reply to  annie

Not just Scotland.

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John Smith
John Smith
5 years ago
Reply to  Mark H

Glasgow city centre is being systematically destroyed and this process was begun before covid.

One thinks back to the many suspicious fires in Sauchiehall street over the last 5 years or so.

The world famous Rennie Mackintosh designed Art school has been torched twice for goodness sake.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
5 years ago
Reply to  John Smith

I don’t suppose sturgeon has any great liking for central Glasgow nightlife.

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Stefarm
Stefarm
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Or life in general!

As a resident of Scotland for the past 2.5 years I’ve had many a good night in Glasgow and seen some great bands at the garage, king Tut’s, barrowlands and st Luke’s.

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arfurmo
arfurmo
5 years ago
Reply to  Mark H

So why the “Thank you St Nicola for keeping us safe”? Is it the hated English money keeping things going?

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Kf99
Kf99
5 years ago
Reply to  arfurmo

Because she has that folksy way at the lectern. It’s the only explanation. It seems only George Galloway is prepared to take her on from what we used to call “the left”

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Two-Six
Two-Six
5 years ago
Reply to  Kf99

Galloway is a fully indoctrinated covid cultist. Such a shame, the guy has zero credibility any more. Just another fool.

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Laurence
Laurence
5 years ago

2020 has not been a particularly bad year for deaths, even including COVID.

When you adjust for an increasing and ageing population, 2020 has the third highest death rate of the last 8 years, doesn’t even make the top quartile, including all the actual COVID and supposed COVID deaths.

Year Deaths to week 46 Population over 70 Adjusted deaths ‘Excess’ deaths
2013 447,560 6,387,380 540,435 -10,507
2014 437,965 6,562,247 514,756 15,172
2015 471,878 6,694,487 543,664 -13,736
2016 462,180 6,850,786 520,338 9,590
2017 468,964 7,139,865 506,599 23,329
2018 480,256 7,356,660 503,319 26,409
2019 463,931 7,556,978 473,500 56,428
2020 529,928 7,712,846 529,928 0

AVERAGE 470,334 7,032,650 516,962 13,336

The adjusted death rate is simply the deaths to week 46 adjusted for the population over 70 in 2020 compared to the year in question (around 80% of deaths are over 70). 2013 and 2015 had a higher death rate. All figures from the ONS and relate to England and Wales (deaths) and England (population).

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Steve Martindale
Steve Martindale
5 years ago
Reply to  Laurence

This virus hoo-haa has shown up our societies blinkered unrealistic view of death. Currently 84% of Covid deaths are people aged over 70. It is not heartless or callous to regard the death of people over 70 differently than deaths under 70, it is realistic. At the moment we have frail eldely people dying in winter time of a respiratory disease……….. situation normal much as every year since records began. Yet we continue in panic and hysteria and there is, as noted in todays newsletter, no organised concerted opposition. All the politicians, even the so-called rebels, seem bewitched by the panic stricken, covid fearing public. And the answer to all this? unfortunately I have no idea?

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SweetBabyCheeses
SweetBabyCheeses
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve Martindale

Ah but every death is a “tragedy”! Says the 2nd biggest arms dealer in the world our beloved Gov, makes me sick.

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annie
annie
5 years ago
Reply to  SweetBabyCheeses

Lives that don’t have votes don’t matter.

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richard riewer
richard riewer
5 years ago
Reply to  annie

Even lives that voted don’t matter.

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richard riewer
richard riewer
5 years ago
Reply to  SweetBabyCheeses

Billions wasted.

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richard riewer
richard riewer
5 years ago
Reply to  richard riewer

The Common Good? Appearances can be deceiving.

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Will
Will
5 years ago
Reply to  Laurence

Thank you Laurence. Information copied for another day.

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Old Bill
Old Bill
5 years ago
Reply to  Laurence

Christ!

If 529,928 7,712,846 529,928 people have died this year no wonder my posts don’t get many upvotes these days.

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Laurence
Laurence
5 years ago

2020 has not been a particularly bad year for deaths, even including COVID.

hopefully numbers are a bit clearer now

2013 447,560 6,387,380 540,435 -10,507
2014 437,965 6,562,247 514,756 15,172
2015 471,878 6,694,487 543,664 -13,736
2016 462,180 6,850,786 520,338 9,590
2017 468,964 7,139,865 506,599 23,329
2018 480,256 7,356,660 503,319 26,409
2019 463,931 7,556,978 473,500 56,428
2020 529,928 7,712,846 529,928 0
AVERAGE 470,334 7,032,650 516,962 13,336

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Niborxof
Niborxof
5 years ago
Reply to  Laurence

Dear Laurence, are these deaths to date ie until Nov or deaths in the year?

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Laurence
Laurence
5 years ago
Reply to  Niborxof

all are deaths to week 46 of the year shown

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Aslangeo
Aslangeo
5 years ago
Reply to  Laurence

Charted it up for you laurence

wk46_comparison.PNG
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Laurence
Laurence
5 years ago
Reply to  Aslangeo

That’s great thanks, for future reference, how do you attach a chart or table to a post ?

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karenovirus
karenovirus
5 years ago

Agreed, all the tier nonsense is just to distract us with who can do what with whom and where and when they have to stop doing it

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Rowan
Rowan
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

It’s also a very effective form of divide and rule. Complaining about tiers is like asking a thug to kick you in the goolies just a little bit less hard.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
5 years ago

Local roundup.

1.Tesco Metro was closed for a few days for refurbishment. It now has no sanitizer station or footprints and arrows on the floor but has enhanced plastic screens around the manned and unmanned tills.
I said to the cashier that the place looks different every day. She replied

“Yes, we are trying to get back to normal now”.

2. Annual Flu Vaccine, after 6 text reminders and one unanswered phone call, yesterday I recieved my first ever letter from my GP Surgery, presumably doing the same. It remains unopened.

3. The teens at my local College remain devoid of facemasks on the street and continue to utterly ignore social distancing when crowding public spaces before, in between and after classes.
A single complaint about this finally arrived on Local Live online from a student who declares
‘ I don’t go out in the evening because I’ve been exposed enough just by going to College’

Johnny No Mates I expect. Happily The College mounted a robust defence of its current practices.

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Suze Burtenshaw
Suze Burtenshaw
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

I received a text from my gp surgery in October asking me to make an appointment for a flu jab – I was given the option to respond with ‘Decline’ which I took. On Saturday I received a letter urging me to make an appointment for a flu jab. The rest of the letter was devoted to telling me how, if only I’d download an app, they wouldn’t have to waste money sending out letters. If only they paid attention to their text responses, they could have saved themselves even more, I thought. Also, did I realise how much it cost them if I didn’t keep my appointment? That would be the appointment I hadn’t made and wasn’t going to make, then. I’m wondering when the next lot of nhs nonsense will be plopping onto my doormat.

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Stefarm
Stefarm
5 years ago
Reply to  Suze Burtenshaw

Interesting bit on UK column yesterday about these letters being issued. Was it signed by an actual person, if so might be worth googling their name to see what it throws up (quite literally).

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Suze Burtenshaw
Suze Burtenshaw
5 years ago
Reply to  Stefarm

I don’t believe it was a ‘proper’ signature but I didn’t pay that much attention, to be honest. It’s now been recycled.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
5 years ago
Reply to  Suze Burtenshaw

The bit about each missed appointment costing the NHS £160.00 ! is on the front of the envelope. Their own records will show that I have never taken up their offer of a flu vaccine and have said No thanks verbally at least twice.

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Sam Vimes
Sam Vimes
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Each missed cancer diagnosis costs someone their life.

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Suze Burtenshaw
Suze Burtenshaw
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

The nhs is inept and poorly organised, to put it mildly. What ticked me off most about the text and letter was their ability/willingness to contact me when it involved the flu jab for which they will be paid, but in the early part of house arrest 1 I tried to contact them re. repeat prescriptions (bp tablets) but was completely unable to. Funny that. Our local chemist was a star and was happy to fulfill the prescription anyway.

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The Filthy Engineer
The Filthy Engineer
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Ah yes. The old NHS missed appointment costs fallacy. My GP surgery has a notice up about weekly/monthly missed appointments and it riles me every time I see it.

From my experience it’s very much a one way street as far as the NHS is concerned. Turn up one minute late to an appointment at my GP surgery and you will find your appointment cancelled off the system despite the fact that you know they are/will be running “late”. This can be contrasted with having turned up on time and then actually being seen an hour later than your booked appointment time.

Somehow the NHS expect me to bear the cost of that for missed billable time to a client.

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DoubtingDave
DoubtingDave
5 years ago
Reply to  The Filthy Engineer

Some years ago Mrs Doubting was referred to an independently run (Virgin Health?) unit near to The QMC in Nottingham, her appointment was at a weird time something like 09:23, she turned up in plenty of time, 23 minutes past arrived a nurse took Mrs Doubting for the tests to be carried out and by 10:00 she was out of the building and on a tram back into the city centre.

Move to more recent times and Mrs Doubting had to go back to the same unit, now back being run under direct NHS control. Shambles waiting around more staff stood around in the unit for a couple of hours etc.

When a private company has its name on the door why can things be so different?

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The Filthy Engineer
The Filthy Engineer
5 years ago
Reply to  DoubtingDave

I have observed the same. Private appointments with physio and osteopath all run to time. I wonder whether it has something to do with the implicit contract that you have with them and the fact that money is exchanged for services immediately that sharpens the mind to the business at hand?

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Cheezilla
Cheezilla
5 years ago
Reply to  The Filthy Engineer

Private = accountable.

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ConstantBees
ConstantBees
5 years ago
Reply to  The Filthy Engineer

Not that I feel like defending the NHS these days, but I will say that my experience with private sector medicine in the US had the same pointless, long waits as you get here. The difference is after you’ve waited for an hour past your appointment time, you still have to pay the bill when you leave. At least here there’s no payment at the point of service.

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davews
davews
5 years ago
Reply to  Suze Burtenshaw

I agree with most of the views on here but I guess like some others there are a few things said that I feel uncomfortable with. Deliberately removing covid posters for instance where although the intention is well meant it verges on petty theft. The other is the opposition to the annual flu jab. Unlike the new Covid jabs which have been largely untested and an uncertain effectiveness, the normal flu jab programme has been running for many years, has very few side effects, and at least some effectiveness. I have had that jab myself for quite some years and had no qualms at booking an appointment for it this year – even though having it in the surgery car park showed the stupidness of the NHS approach. Others clearly have different views but be that so. As for the Covid one I will probably decline when and if I am offered it and say I will reconsider in six months when a little more is known and maybe (or maybe not) the paranoia has abated a bit.

Please don’t down vote this post, all views are welcome on this excellent forum.

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Charlie Blue
Charlie Blue
5 years ago
Reply to  davews

I think many objections are about the way flu vaccines are suddenly being pushed so hard. I had one this year and have for about 15 years since I was very poorly with flu complications. That’s my choice and others should be free to make theirs. I am I uneasy, to put it mildly, about the trend towards undermining choice and sovereignty over one’s own body and I think the flu campaign feeds into that for me.

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Steph
Steph
5 years ago
Reply to  davews

My husband has the flu jab every year and I have had it in recent years and paid for my son to have it also.
However, why do we need the flu jab this year? My husband is virtually a prisoner in his work from home office. Son and I go out occasionally but all socialising is verboten.
All jabs carry a risk, even the well tested ones. The flu vaccine has to change every year and some years the side effects are worse than others and some years it completely misses the mark and is ineffective. So it’s a health cost benefit analysis that we should all be able to make for ourselves. I’m certainly not taking it so the pushy GP can get a tick in a box and a payment for it.

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RichardJames
RichardJames
5 years ago
Reply to  Steph

“…so the pushy GP can get a tick in a box and a payment for it.”

Exactly so. And that’s all they care about. They can go fuck themselves. I am not going to suffer the side-effects and illness (even if it’s temporary) just to put more money in their till, and to increase the drug company’s profits which the UK pays for. The laughably-named “flu jab” is not free.

Last edited 5 years ago by RichardJames
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karenovirus
karenovirus
5 years ago
Reply to  davews

Taking the annual flu jab is a personal choice, as should be the Covid vaccine.
I don’t take it because despite being supposedly vulnerable I have never had flu and I put that down to the large number of people I am in contact with due to my occupation.
When I retire I might change my mind especially now the government have destroyed any chances of social interaction.

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Suze Burtenshaw
Suze Burtenshaw
5 years ago
Reply to  davews

Dave, I agree with you re. differing views. Personally, I’ve had my flu jab for the last few years but decided against it this year because I had a nasty autoimmune reaction after a jab. I felt a little reluctant about the jab once I found out surgeries are paid for everyone who takes it. Don’t ask me why, it just didn’t sit well with me. But I agree with karenovirus that it should be personal choice.
As to the C19 jab, well, if the government hadn’t indemnified drug companies against any possible legal action resulting from side effects, I might have considered having it. I think they shot themselves in the foot with that decision as it will put a lot of people off.

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David Grimbleby
David Grimbleby
5 years ago
Reply to  Suze Burtenshaw

I thought Flu had disappeared this year? It’s all ‘ The Covid’ innit?

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JohnB
JohnB
5 years ago
Reply to  davews

Petty theft my arse. Was the ww2 resistance in France blowing up bridges criminal damage ?

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Cheshirecatslave
Cheshirecatslave
5 years ago
Reply to  davews

I feel much the same.

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ConstantBees
ConstantBees
5 years ago
Reply to  davews

I used to get the flu jab regularly when I lived in the US. I also used to get sick far more often than I do now. I don’t remember when I stopped getting the jab – probably when I came to live in the UK permanently around 1999, but I still just do not get sick. Every so often I feel a bit off, have a cup of lemon ginger tea. I take a nap if that doesn’t help. When I wake up, I feel fine. So based on more than a decade’s experience, I don’t need the flu jab and I wish they’d stop asking me to have it. But I also have taken Vitamin D every winter for donkeys years which may or may not have something to do with it.

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Cheezilla
Cheezilla
5 years ago
Reply to  davews

Deliberately removing covid posters for instance where although the intention is well meant it verges on petty theft.

What about the deliberate theft of our democratic rights and freedoms?

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annie
annie
5 years ago
Reply to  davews

I’m nit voting you down, but I am disagreeing. Ugly, fear-mongering Covid notices pollute my town and countryside and I shall go on removing them whenever and wherever I can.
Other people often remove my anti-Covidian stickers. Should I accuse them of petty theft?

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Borisbullshit
Borisbullshit
5 years ago
Reply to  annie

Its not petty theft it is removing the outward expression of a tyrannical society. Who gives a shit about theft in that context? I remove everything I possibly can and dump it in the bin where everyone can see it. Mind you I would prefer to ram it up Johnson’s backside sharp end first.

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ConstantBees
ConstantBees
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

I got three of those flu jab letters, the latest one yesterday. It went straight into the compost bin, so no way to see the signature now. I changed my mobile number on my GPs website, so if they’ve texted me again, it went into the bit bucket. I have to admit that I want nothing whatsoever to do with the NHS ever again.

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Barney McGrew
Barney McGrew
5 years ago

My initial reaction to Carl Heneghan talking about hospital transmission of Covid is to be sceptical. What is the evidence for these ‘cases’? Are they based on the same PCR test that he rubbishes elsewhere? And the resulting ‘Covid deaths’? Are they as reliable as the PHE’s ‘Covid deaths’ he exposed earlier this year?

For me, the stats are rotten, through and through, whether they make the government look good or bad. Where the stats show a hospital acquired ‘Covid’ ‘case’, I see a most-likely asymptomless positive PCR test result, and for every ‘Covid death’ in hospital I see an elderly person with co-morbidities who was probably going to die of something anyway. If it looks like they had a respiratory infection, it was probably some sort of influenza.

Heneghan shouldn’t ‘play their game’.

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Stefarm
Stefarm
5 years ago
Reply to  Barney McGrew

Ditto and I was just going to post a similar message.

What really is going on in the NHS? I and the vast majority of people on this site are pretty confident the PCR test is virtually useless so what are these people dying of, MRSA infection, neglect, pneumonia, are the hospitals filthy cluttered up with empty pizza boxes, bad hygiene, no ventilation?

It’s true that people can’t die of old age anymore, but why? What is the real agenda (apart from reset, agenda 30 etc etc).

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SweetBabyCheeses
SweetBabyCheeses
5 years ago
Reply to  Barney McGrew

I’m glad you said this better than I! I’m a bit surprised at CH’s comments. It’s hard to be skeptical until you question everything from the start. The testing, the cases, the asymptomatic transmission, the masks, the deaths. Once you get sucked into accepting all that it’s hard to win the debate.

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p02099003
p02099003
5 years ago
Reply to  SweetBabyCheeses

This is what is happening in Leicester according to the local paper:

https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/news/leicester-news/health-boss-says-leicesters-hospitals-4736939
https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/news/leicester-news/leicesters-hospitals-hit-highest-number-4714908.amp
https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/news/leicester-news/more-40-covid-deaths-added-4735766

What really, really gets me is that the hospital doesn’t seem to be reporting these cases through the notifiable disease process, which is where they should be reported.

I have just submitted the following FOI request:
Please could you provide the following information:
Since 1st January 2020 until 26th November 2020 how many notifications under the Public Health (Control of Disease) Act 1984 and the Health Protection (Notification) Regulations 2010 have been submitted by UHL medical staff?

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Richard
Richard
5 years ago

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/watch-live-pennsylvania-legislature-giuliani-hold-public-hearing-2020-election.

Unlikely the MSM will be covering this ! In one clip the court actually bursts out laughing at the ridiculousness of the vote rigging for Biden. There is a separate good point made – after this hearing Biden now has to prove the cheating didn’t take place – the burden of proof has shifted. There is still a long way to go but Trump can still win this

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Barney McGrew
Barney McGrew
5 years ago
Reply to  Richard

I am tempted to agree with ‘WhatsHerFace’ (as linked to in yesterday’s LS news) where, in the moments when she finds herself going full ‘conspiracy’, she suspects that the aim is for Trump to win in order to provoke the nice, gentle, progressive leftists into burning down America. All the easier to then justify and implement a ‘reset’…

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Margaret
Margaret
5 years ago

Chatting to the cashier in M&S yesterday, she was clearly fed up of the lockdown. Aha, I thought, chance for a conversion to scepticism.

Sadly no, her elderly parents live in the North East and she wasn’t planning to visit them this Christmas in case it put them at risk. She would wait until next year once the vaccine had been brought in.

i hadn’t the heart to tell her that at 85, her father might not be here next year as, who knows, might not any of us. Better strike while the iron’s hot.

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annie
annie
5 years ago
Reply to  Margaret

Yes, have all the elderly people, and their relatives, who have resolved to spend a miserable solitary Christmas paused to consider that it might be an idea to live a little while they still can?

They must be thinking like Cottard in La Peste, who was convinced that you could only suffer from one affliction at a time. I.e. if you are at risk from Covid, you are safe from death from anything else.

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Steve-Devon
Steve-Devon
5 years ago
Reply to  Margaret

It reminds me of a cartoon I saw once, 2 miserable bored old men sitting in a care home, one says to the other ‘ good job we gave up the booze, the cigarettes, the fast cars and the wild times or we would have missed all this’!

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bluemoon
bluemoon
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

Two men sitting at a bar, one says to the other, The problem with living a longer life is that all the extra years come at the end.

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Sarigan
Sarigan
5 years ago
Reply to  bluemoon

Not living longer, just dying longer

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Caroline Watson
Caroline Watson
5 years ago
Reply to  Margaret

I was planning to drive down to my very elderly parents’ town, stay in an hotel, and take them out for lunch in a restaurant. They are too old to cope with visitors or cooking large meals and I find their bathroom habits (door never closed, and the neurotic cleaner hasn’t been since March) and the constant television hard to cope with. This solution works all round and, in normal years, enables me to spend time with friends without being debriefed like a teenager on which unsuitable boys were there!
This year, staying somewhere else and having lunch in a restaurant would have been infinitely more hygienic and pleasant than squeezing into their rather foetid, overheated house. But, it will not be ‘allowed’. Add to that the carnage on the roads, filled with unserviced cars and people who haven’t driven any distance for months and have knackered their eyes staring at screens for most of that time, and I shall be staying at home with the cat!!

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ConstantBees
ConstantBees
5 years ago
Reply to  Margaret

I think some older people still struggle to accept their own mortality. I say that as someone in their 60s. But I’ve had to deal with death on several occasions, having had cancer as well as an attempt on my life years ago. It can be hard to look at death head on, so I can’t blame people if they tell themselves they’ll do something next year instead. While I enjoy plans and ideas for the future, I’m very aware that I could be dead tomorrow.

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annie
annie
5 years ago
Reply to  ConstantBees

So could any of us, from the day-old baby to the centenarian.
To stop living because one day you will most certainly die is the grossest folly one can possibly commit.

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G.Fawkes
G.Fawkes
5 years ago
Reply to  ConstantBees

Stoic philosophy and Nio Zen made me face the prospect of death often, meditate upon it, think of every aspect of it. It would be common today to think this unhealthy or morbid, but it is honestly realistic. Besides, not only does facing it head on relieve the anxiety of death, it makes you more appreciative of not yet being dead. It is actually a very healthy practice, grounded in reason.

“Death can not be evil, or Socrates would have thought it so” – Lucius Annaeus Seneca.

“To fear death, gentlemen, is no other than to think oneself wise when one is not, to think one knows what one does not know. No one knows whether death may not be the greatest of all blessings for a man, yet men fear it as if they knew that it is the greatest of evils.” – Socrates (Apology, Plato)

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theanalyst
theanalyst
5 years ago

These three chaps were stuck in Italy for 61 days and could not get a negative PCR test. They kept testing positive for all 61 days. Only a change in Italian law allowed them to come home. Clear evidence PCR tests and cases are false. If they were in the UK and being tested weekly, they would have enabled reporting of 24 new so called cases or infections over the same time period, according to current methodology. I think I got that right.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8846875/Three-British-friends-stuck-quarantine-Italy-61-DAYS-finally-leave.html

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Jamie
Jamie
5 years ago
Reply to  theanalyst

Sue Cook’s pinned tweet hits the nail on the head. If the PCR test had never been invented we’d be living our normal lives by now

https://twitter.com/SueC00K/status/1317384055474761728?s=20

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Steph
Steph
5 years ago
Reply to  Jamie

Sadly PCR is a wonderful scientific invention high jacked to be used in a manner it never was intended. I think PCR will always be unfairly tainted once this is over.

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Dodderydude
Dodderydude
5 years ago
Reply to  Jamie

As Dr Mike Yeadon has repeatedly said: If we stopped testing, masks and social distancing with immediate effect we could all be back to normal immediately with no adverse effects. (I would add to that the need for mainstream media to cease with their disingenuous scaremongering.)

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SweetBabyCheeses
SweetBabyCheeses
5 years ago
Reply to  theanalyst

Yes this was disgusting. But I thought they were girls so maybe there was more than one incident of this? Pre-covid this would’ve been a gross violation of some kind of international law and the foreign secretary would’ve been straight to the embassy to demand the release of the political hostages. Now it’s like oh well nevermind.

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Sarigan
Sarigan
5 years ago
Reply to  SweetBabyCheeses

There were 3 girls stuck in Sicily who kept getting positive tests in the summer I think.

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Bella
Bella
5 years ago
Reply to  theanalyst

One of the lads in the article said: ‘I don’t even have the words to explain how it feels just to know that we can go home, do normal things, see our family, see our friends and have a normal life again rather than being stuck here.’ Normal, normal, normal. Sure he’s been in Italy and not planet Zog? Little do they

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John Ballard
John Ballard
5 years ago

Just never ending. I haven’t listened to conspiracy theories about phone masts and 5g or any other stuff up until now. I just put our response down to a wet, useless, weak, social media led bunch of halfwit MPs. But….. what is going on? When professors and highly qualified people’s views are quashed, YouTube and Facebook are taking down any posts that dispute the need for these crazy actions, there has to be more to this than just gross stupidity in government? I am in Cornwall, been on this site since day one pretty much. We haven’t had a wave yet! I do not believe we are alone, I do believe many other parts of the country have cases on a par with flu or just a winter virus. Why are we ruining the country? I am lucky and still working but my firm has made people redundant. They would all be still working if it wasn’t for this farce. How are employers supposed to run a business with every government message saying to work from home? How do you effectively run sales teams when you never see them!!!??? It’s just a joke. Now before we even get to the… Read more »

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Jamie
Jamie
5 years ago
Reply to  John Ballard

You said it perfectly. I’m thinking the same. I’m sorry about your father

If politicians care about our country and freedom then they must start working to free us from the tyranny of lockdowns so that we can return to the old normal

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James007
James007
5 years ago
Reply to  Jamie

Absolutely! What you describe as the ‘old normal’ is the way humans are supposed to be. We are supposed to be with each other.
We have never endured ‘virtual’ contact for so long.

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
5 years ago
Reply to  John Ballard

Well said. We’re in the process of doing compulsory redundancies too and hardly anyone bar me and a few other people are awake to the fact that there will be no reudndancies voluntary or compulsory if it wasn’t for lockdown and restrictions. What part of that do people not understand?

Very sorry to hear about your dad.

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SweetBabyCheeses
SweetBabyCheeses
5 years ago
Reply to  John Ballard

This edition of newsletter has made me finally start to see a bigger picture of this supposed Great Reset. China are orchestrating the entire thing. I’m not saying they made it in a lab (although I think they may have had it in from bats and then leaked it), but they’re definitely pulling strings and not just trolling us.

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Chicot
Chicot
5 years ago
Reply to  SweetBabyCheeses

One thing that has not been explained is the very dubious videos from China of people just dropping dead in the streets. Unless China had a very different version of the virus, people with Covid don’t go from being well enough to be out and about one moment, to dropping dead the next. Who faked those videos and why?

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richard riewer
richard riewer
5 years ago
Reply to  SweetBabyCheeses

They got it from Dr. Fauci.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
5 years ago
Reply to  John Ballard

Likewise I went on a journey from being worried about a medieval pestilence to being concerned about government over caution then wondering why lockdown was going on forever, bankrupting companies, individuals and nearly the State itself.

Some sort of politicing was clearly the only answer.

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James007
James007
5 years ago
Reply to  John Ballard

Sorry about your father. I hope you will be able to see him and not be impeded by all this.
I am also lucky. I am working, started a new job three weeks ago. I am underperforming and a bit depressed. I dont seem to have adjusted well to working in isolation, having not physically met any colleagues. Others seem to be managing it fine.
I have managed to get permission to work from the office, but it is empty.
It was a huge blow to see the tiers announced, and to think we will have to endure this even longer.

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Wayne Keogh
Wayne Keogh
5 years ago
Reply to  John Ballard

Maybe its time to start taking the so called conspiracy theorists seriously (a term created by the elites to ridicule anyone with an alternate view), there’s no smoke without fire, global freedom is teetering on the edge of a very high cliff.

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Hopeful
Hopeful
5 years ago
Reply to  John Ballard

Best wishes to your Dad. As to what’s really going on. I remember posting stuff here months ago about there being a bigger picture we all need to look at. No matter that I got dismissed, that was then and this is now. It’s great that increasing numbers of people are realising it’s not incompetence and self-interest driving this thing. Not so great is the anger and frustration when it comes to determining the actions we can take to stop what is now a massive crime against humanity. Saw a post earlier about the various groups and individuals all battling to end the farce and, therefore, all the wrongs and evils emanating from it. The post highlighted the lack of a singular focus and identity. This lack rendering the respective efforts powerless and ineffective against the government/globalist narrative. Made me think that what we the opposition have now is all of the components of the fantastic human body. We have all the organs, the nervous system and all the other systems. We have the bones. We are, however, lacking the vital structure that holds, connects and supports everything. We don’t have a spine giving shape, structure and strength to the… Read more »

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sam
sam
5 years ago
Reply to  Hopeful

we need an S.O.E. we need a churchill, and best wishes too to your dad

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Jamie
Jamie
5 years ago

Lockdowns are worse than the ‘virus’

If lockdown isn’t going to end until summer 2021 then we know it’s not about a virus, but it’s about something else. I’m very scared

The destruction of the economy and every economy around the world is either a coincidence or deliberately planned. Is it the Great Reset? Who is the Great Reset for?

Do politicians think it’s OK to destroy millions of innocent people’s lives? To treat them like prisoners when they’ve committed no crime?

This is so wrong. The UK is not free

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Barney McGrew
Barney McGrew
5 years ago
Reply to  Jamie

To me, it seems that if Boris Johnson had found himself in the position of being PM at the moment when a killer pandemic struck, given the choice to either struggle through or to impose economy-destroying measures, and he took the latter course, then he should be a near-broken man. All his political dreams have come to nothing; he has presided over the destruction of real people’s lives; he has had to cause people’s deaths; he has had to assume the role of authoritarian big-state politician he always despised. He, personally, has had to ruin the country. He should be leaping upon every bit of good news about the virus from respected scientists and praising it to the skies to give himself a reason to get the country back to normal. But what do we find? He is cheerful as he maintains the lockdowns. He makes little quips and jokes and plays on words. He uses other people’s stupid slogans (‘Build back better’) knowing that this sets alarm bells ringing in people’s minds. He drops Green New Deal-style policies into his twitter feed. And he gets his goons to rubbish the Great Barrington Declaration even though everyone knows that Hancock… Read more »

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Two-Six
Two-Six
5 years ago
Reply to  Barney McGrew

Boris must comply or it’s no bank “loans” credits for UK PLC. He is also a narcissistic liar who will say and do anything to keep his black mailers at bay as he has more skeletons in his cupboard than a guy who runs a ghost train.

His cabinet are Fascists. Corrupt to the core. The Tories, the global fascist dictatorship has been built-up over the last 20 years is now in operation in the UK.

The age of global fascist totalitarianism is now.

Boris is just a tool. They will use him until he wears out and is useless then they will throw him into the pig iron bin to be melted down for scrap.

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RichardJames
RichardJames
5 years ago
Reply to  Two-Six

This is what happened to Belarus. Their president was told, in no uncertain terms, to “lock down or it’s no loans”. He didn’t need much, so he went to Putin and asked for the same amount, which he got.

He then turned round to The Cabal and told them to GFT, and then turned to his people and advised them (with all his vast medical knowledge and skills in biology and chemistry) “Drink more vodka!”

It worked better than the shit that came out of Whitty’s mouth.

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Old Bill
Old Bill
5 years ago
Reply to  Barney McGrew

Boris is just a brainless puppet. Find out who is pulling the strings and you might have an inkling of why this is happening.
BTW Don’t tell me it is Bill Gates, that is bigger bollox than coranavirus itself.

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flyingjohn
flyingjohn
5 years ago
Reply to  Old Bill

Soros and the WEF i.e. the 3% elite, aka the NWO.

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JohnB
JohnB
5 years ago
Reply to  flyingjohn

0.03% more like. No way they make up 3% of the population.

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Jo
Jo
5 years ago
Reply to  flyingjohn

The Technocrats.

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theanalyst
theanalyst
5 years ago
Reply to  Jamie

Lockdowns are the killer.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13298627/doctors-miss-mums-killer-cancer-zoom-covid/

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annie
annie
5 years ago
Reply to  Jamie

Sheeples want lockdowns.
Sheeples are the majority.
Politicians get elected if they please the majority.
That’s totalitarian democracy for you.

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sam
sam
5 years ago
Reply to  annie

so true , exactly what i think. thank goodness for sanity here thank you annie all your greatcommnents ,

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RichardJames
RichardJames
5 years ago
Reply to  annie

The tyranny of the majority. I won’t bore you with the details, but this has affected me all my adult life, so I understand completely.

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Borisbullshit
Borisbullshit
5 years ago
Reply to  annie

I always wondered what the ‘tyranny of the majority’ meant…now I know!

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flyingjohn
flyingjohn
5 years ago
Reply to  Jamie

Who is the Great Reset for? The elite, the 3%, the Davos crowd, the NWO. It is NOT for us pleb citizens.

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JohnB
JohnB
5 years ago
Reply to  flyingjohn

Where the ff does your 3% come from, fj ?

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Rowan
Rowan
5 years ago
Reply to  flyingjohn

It is for us, we are the ones who they want to reset. Vaccines are their Great Reset not so secret weapon.

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leggy
leggy
5 years ago
Reply to  Jamie

Anyone who now believes this ends in summer 2021 after the non-stop lies and propaganda we’ve been subject to is naive in the extreme.

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nottingham69
nottingham69
5 years ago

Nothing from Potato Head Sunak on cutting Public Sector waste, in his interview rounds today I predict.

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Jamie
Jamie
5 years ago

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Freecumbria
Freecumbria
5 years ago

Like the open letter from UK Medical Freedom Alliance to the MHRA in the links to today’s update. One quote I liked was from the spokesperson from Astra Zeneca

“This is a unique situation where we as a company simply cannot take the risk if in … four years the vaccine is showing side effects”

But they are quite happy for the public taking that vaccine to take that long term risk for little if any gain and presumably not to be warned of that risk because it’s anti-vax?

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SilentP
SilentP
5 years ago
Reply to  Freecumbria

Probably too late now – Ferguson is spelled with a double ‘s’ near the start of the letter.
This will be picked on by people challenging it’s credibility

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annie
annie
5 years ago
Reply to  SilentP

Perhaps Pantsdown predicted the spelling of his own name incorrectly and exaggerated the number of s’s by 100%.

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Freecumbria
Freecumbria
5 years ago
Reply to  annie

Would it not need to be need to be Fergusssssssssssson based on his Swedish prediction?

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SilentP
SilentP
5 years ago
Reply to  SilentP

My credibility – it was my spell checker that changed its to it’s!

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Barney McGrew
Barney McGrew
5 years ago

Or they know that money will cease to have any meaning in a few months’ time…

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NickR
NickR
5 years ago

Liverpool, it was all down to the mass testing?
Joe Ashton, Mayor of Liverpool on R4 this morning claiming the reduction in Liverpool was down to Tier 3 & mass testing.
Take a look at the chart….. I don’t think so!

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Julian
Julian
5 years ago
Reply to  NickR

I’ve never seen anyone who goes on about testing explain how it affects the spread of the virus

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jb12
jb12
5 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Presumably anyone testing positive then hides in their house thus prohibiting any spread.

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NickR
NickR
5 years ago
Reply to  Julian

You’re right it’s nonsense. At any point in the summer we had 10,000s of people kicking about with the virus, pubs open, beaches open, shops open. The things that kick it off are clearly seasonal factors not behavioural factors.
The Government can control behaviour but that doesn’t control the virus spread.

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Sam Vimes
Sam Vimes
5 years ago
Reply to  NickR

They really would go on TV and say “Cases came down after tier 3 was introduced, and came down further still when LD2 was brought in. The graph shows this, our plan is working.”
The saddest thing is that the plebs would swallow that whole.

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Two-Six
Two-Six
5 years ago
Reply to  Sam Vimes

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Basileus
Basileus
5 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Simple: it is how you fatten turkeys for Christmas – by weighing them.

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PompeyJunglist
PompeyJunglist
5 years ago

Would it not have been equitable for Sunak to announce a 20% public sector pay cut for a period of 12 months?

After all, we’re all in this together right?

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
5 years ago
Reply to  PompeyJunglist

You would have thought but its all a lie. As many of us have pointed out, many of the public sector workers and those who live in posh parts of cities and the shires are living it up during lockdown.

Hence why they don’t want lockdown to end why they don’t like Sunak’s announcement, they don’t want the gravy train to end.

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p02099003
p02099003
5 years ago
Reply to  Bart Simpson

The problem is what constitutes a public sector worker?
Technically I am not as I am employed by a CIC, but we are working for the NHS and I pay into the NHS pension but I am not on agenda for change and my salary is set by my employer.
My daughter works for the civil service and so is a public sector worker.

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
5 years ago
Reply to  p02099003

Agree it is a problem.

However the MPs, senior civil servants and those in local government should start the ball rolling – give themselves a massive pay cut and for the MPs a ban on claiming expenses and foregoing their pensions when they leave.

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Stephanos
Stephanos
5 years ago
Reply to  Bart Simpson

I have challenged my MP on THREE different occasions to propose a pay cut of 20% similar to the pay cut they have imposed on the productive and useful private sector; on NO occasion has he responded to this point, The bloated, incompetent and inefficient public sector has of course, been completely unaffected.
Also, and this is something that public sector jobsworths choose to ignore, the pensions (entirely stolen from the private sector) for such jobsworths continue to accumulate exactly as before but private pensions will suffer from a lack of contributions; something that is not visible now but will be in the future.

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
5 years ago
Reply to  Stephanos

It’s funny how they can’t see the woods from the trees but I suspect that’s what we get from people who don’t have a clue about how money is made.

With regards to pensions, I’ve just voted in favour of my workplace to reduce their contributions to mine. My reasoning is that I would rather keep my job and have something if only a little to save up every month than lose my job. Pensions now are meaningless anyway and when I finally get to cash them I suspect they will be nothing but loose change.

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Tom Blackburn
Tom Blackburn
5 years ago

The Guardian: Hancock’s former neighbour won Covid test kit work after WhatsApp message.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/26/matt-hancock-former-neighbour-won-covid-test-kit-contract-after-whatsapp-message

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mikewaite
mikewaite
5 years ago
Reply to  Tom Blackburn

Not only does this story smell of crony – corruption , but the products themselves are suspect if what is written in the Guardian report is true:
-“New to the industry, Bourne has certainly displayed ingenuity. He initially did not have the “clean rooms” required for manufacturing medical products and so commissioned a series of inflatable rooms.
He also paid a manufacturer of bouncy castles and blimps to make him a specially commissioned inflatable structure to unpack and decontaminate incoming supplies, which his lawyers described as a room that was intended to be “comparatively contamination-free” but “not medical-grade sterile”.
They said their client’s decision to turn to the bouncy castle company showed “creative and lateral thinking in a time of crisis”.
It remains unclear precisely how, with no prior experience in the field, and without the pre-existing facilities in produce medical supplies, Bourne came to provide millions of test tubes via two distributors with pre-existing deals with the DHSC.”-

“Comparatively contamination free”? And these test kits provide the data on which Govt policy is made and economies and people’s livelihoods destroyed.

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Lyra Silvertongue
Lyra Silvertongue
5 years ago
Reply to  Tom Blackburn

No way would I cheerlead for the Graun these days – but a scroll down the front page gives a distinct sense of being a lot closer to our position than previously. Lots of headlines about the economic impact of lockdown, cronyism, etc. I know it’s still very much a lockdownist angle but can’t help wondering if they have seen which way the wind is blowing and are now gently setting up to be able to say ‘well, of course we warned you about the devastation this was going to cause, no self respecting leftist could ever condone the lockdown, could they?’

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
5 years ago

So yesterday I had a training session & meeting afterwards online and what happened is another example of what we’re still up against: Early afternoon session was about communicating with muzzles. The organisers did some exercises where we had to decipher what they were saying behind their muzzles. Whilst they made an effort by trying to simulate thick foreign accents and such, I thought it was a cop out as it doesn’t really match in our real life experience – we’ve been trained to communicate in a clear manner so even if they were muzzled I could still pick up at least 75% of what they’re saying however if it was a genuine visitor, it goes down to under 10%, less that 5% if it was someone with a thick regional or foreign accent. Then we had a Q&A and one of my colleagues whined about people constantly removing their muzzles or lowering them down. I pointed out that people do struggle to breathe in them and from the look on my other colleagues’ faces, I could tell that didn’t go down well until I was rescued by two of the managers who reiterated that we are not to approach… Read more »

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Biker
Biker
5 years ago
Reply to  Bart Simpson

you should have got a mask, taken out a lighter and burned it in front of them.

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
5 years ago
Reply to  Biker

Good one. I don’t think they would have gotten that either.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
5 years ago
Reply to  Biker

Welcome back Biker, you’ve been missed.

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Novidnineteen
Novidnineteen
5 years ago

Bloody Germans threatening to close ski resorts.

Where I am I can treat the Government’s rules as they have treated my letters, as a very minor inconvenience. Skiing is my treat in winter. I’m off before they fuck it up again.

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arfurmo
arfurmo
5 years ago
Reply to  Novidnineteen

Not much of a treat . Unless you can drive there you face being muzzled on plane (tricky to claim exemption on many airlines) , muzzled on the transfer to resort, muzzled in bars with no music, hotels and gondolas. What amazes me is that hard core skiers/boarders who will take a managed risk on skiing off piste are so worried about being on a ski bus even with face nappies.

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penelope pitstop
penelope pitstop
5 years ago
Reply to  Novidnineteen

go to austria – I read they are keeping their ski resorts open in december. Though they are under pressure from the EU and Italy i think to close.
Another bad ski season and how many of the operators/industry will survive…

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Ewan Duffy
Ewan Duffy
5 years ago

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/private-homes-still-hotspot-for-covid-19-infection-39793204.html

TLDR COVID19 ‘case’* outbreaks are now primarily in homes in Ireland. Which is why we need to lockdown and confine people to homes. 🙁

* Standard LS caveat – cases are not infections.

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Recusant
Recusant
5 years ago
Reply to  Ewan Duffy

From no hard border to don’t leave your house. What a pathetic self-serving bunch of hypocrites the Irish government are.

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Saved To Death
Saved To Death
5 years ago
Reply to  Ewan Duffy

This narrative is meant to lead to the justification for invading peoples homes ‘testing’ them and splitting up families. In particular they want to start separating children from their families.

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Liewe
Liewe
5 years ago
Reply to  Ewan Duffy

Clearly we need to ban private homes. Everyone should live on the pavement until a vaccine is available for those who haven’t died of exposure…

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Richard
Richard
5 years ago

https://mobile.twitter.com/jsolomonReports/status/1331844817723252736

Supreme Court in the US waking up at last just overturned COVID restrictions on religious gatherings / services

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mhcp
mhcp
5 years ago

We have added more debt than in the 2008 Financial Crisis. This was always about saving sovereign debt markets i.e. government debt. As has been discussed here before, the 2019 Repo crashes, followed by the 1 trillion injection over the New Year by the Fed had put a lot of institutions on notice.

The difference is that a lot of smaller business owners learned from the last crisis. A lot of bigger businesses didn’t. I suspect a financial crash would leave many smaller businesses intact or at least surviving for longer.

And that’s the last thing anyone in financial power wants.

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Biker
Biker
5 years ago

Got to laugh at the shock that peer Review is total bollocks. Science is like religion and it’s believers these days are puritans. Fuck the lockdown, don’t do a single thing these fuckers say, do everything you can to fuck the system up. The government is the problem. The things they do are the problem. Democracy is a terrible idea. We now live in a world where even when you vote for an old Etonian we get some green woke cunt hell bent on destroying our lives. And look how we see all the Great British public just cave in like the fucking cowards they are. Theres no hope with Hitchens and all the others, like Toby i’m afraid, because they don’t call for mass disobedience. What will it take for Toby, Hitchens and the rest of them to get together and call for total disobedience to this green new world they are forcing on us with this bullshit virus. It will be too late to do anything. We need mass protests, non payment of taxes, non compliance with the stupid cunts who’s only abilities is to work some government job. The whole system needs to burn to the fucking… Read more »

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Londo Mollari
Londo Mollari
5 years ago
Reply to  Biker

If Toby and Peter Hitchens called for mass civil disobedience, what do you think would happen?

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Fingerache Philip.
Fingerache Philip.
5 years ago
Reply to  Londo Mollari

Civil war?

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Recusant
Recusant
5 years ago
Reply to  Londo Mollari

Nothing.

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Rowan
Rowan
5 years ago
Reply to  Recusant

Lord Sumption has already told us that the government’s coronavirus restrictions are very likely illegal and probably would not stand up to due process. On top of that the restrictions are clearly immoral and so should be ignored in their entirety.

Do not wear masks, never get tested and make sure you never risk life and limb by being vaccinated, with one or another of Bill Gate’s or anybody else’s special depopulating brews. These are the darkest of times and without widespread and firm resistance things will only get much worse. In short, it is clear that the government wants nearly all of us dead and soon at that.

Last edited 5 years ago by Rowan
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Biker
Biker
5 years ago
Reply to  Londo Mollari

I expect others to join them. I expect Talk Radio to organise on air, i expect people to put it on the line. If you don’t then you’re not helping and are just blowing wind up my ass. It takes one man to lead us out the desert and into the promised land. Now i don’t expect a spineless tosser like Toby Young to stand up and be counted because he’s got too much to lose, same goes for Hitichens but if they did stand up it would mean a hell of a lot. They’re gonna lose it all anyway and hedging your bets won’t achieve anything except their own destruction. Make no mistake these green woke cunts are coming for you. They gonna ration energy, this is how they are going to get you compliant. They’ve got us locked up, announced their banning gas boilers, and cars and air travel. You will be forced at gun point to take their vaccine, if you’ve assets they’re gonna take them. Stand up now before it’s to late. Off course no one will, but like Churchill telling them about Hitler and they didn’t want to listen, well i’m fucking Churchill and i’m… Read more »

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Jakehadlee
Jakehadlee
5 years ago
Reply to  Biker

I mean, you’re not Churchill though. But I feel your anger. More people should be angry, and the angry people should be angrier. This is only going to end one way unfortunately, debate is already won and nothing has changed so options narrow. We’ve all seen what kind of things focused minds on debating other issues over the last 20 years and it will eventually come to that over this, if the deception continues. It’s inevitable, unfortunately

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Biker
Biker
5 years ago
Reply to  Jakehadlee

I am just a man, a rare commodity these days, so yes i am Churchill if i want to be. I can be anything i want. I don’t know a bout you but i don’t give two fucks if i live or die but i do care about living free while i still breathe. I’m not even angry, you wouldn’t like me if i was angry.

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richard riewer
richard riewer
5 years ago
Reply to  Biker

How about President Elect?

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Rowan
Rowan
5 years ago
Reply to  Jakehadlee

Your opening sentence ruins the rest of your post.

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Borisbullshit
Borisbullshit
5 years ago
Reply to  Jakehadlee

I find people dont like it if I get angry….that seems to be unfashionable these days. Even my partner does not like it and I’m not sure she would be on my side if I got into a brawl with some covid nazi in a shop. I am sure that will happen one day but there will only be one winner in that one!

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Jamie
Jamie
5 years ago
Reply to  Biker

It’s true. I’m convinced the Gov’t, or the Covid Cabal (for want of a better description) wants us dead

Some can see what’s happening and they’re shouting warnings but no one’s listening

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Rowan
Rowan
5 years ago
Reply to  Jamie

Oh yes, they really do want us dead and that’s been clear from nearly day one of this long planned and fake pandemic. Johnson and his government of mental pygmies have signed on to the Gates and Schwab vision of a massively depopulated future for the planet. No doubt, they will have been well rewarded for their utmost treachery.

The “Great Reset” and “sustainability” are simply code for the coming mass global genocide. The Covid-19 vaccines are their not too secret weapon and only the very naive will be bearing their arms for these toxic concoctions. Once vaccinated the remainder of their days will be spent battling pain and illness, culminating in a welcome death.

Last edited 5 years ago by Rowan
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Thomas_E
Thomas_E
5 years ago
Reply to  Biker

I agree with you on this and your previous post a 100%. I have been saying something similar of months now. What is required is action, civil disobedience on a massive scale and if need be full out rebellion. I’m behind you all the way as a very smart man once said : Give me liberty , or give me death!

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Rowan
Rowan
5 years ago
Reply to  Londo Mollari

We’ll be waiting a long time to find out.

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Bruce Reynolds
Bruce Reynolds
5 years ago
Reply to  Biker

Great post agree with everything you say..

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Biker
Biker
5 years ago
Reply to  Bruce Reynolds

Thanks and i appreciate your work on the Great Train Robbery.

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Bruce Reynolds
Bruce Reynolds
5 years ago
Reply to  Biker

Thank you sir I will pass your appreciation on to my friend Ronnie I could not have done it without him..
Keep the comments coming Biker Fucking ace..

Last edited 5 years ago by Bruce Reynolds
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jb12
jb12
5 years ago
Reply to  Biker

You really showed those masked shoppers!

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Biker
Biker
5 years ago
Reply to  jb12

fuck your patronising post pal

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jb12
jb12
5 years ago
Reply to  Biker

Well, you are having a go at people like Toby Young and Rosie while doing absolutely nothing yourself. So yes, fuck my post if it makes you feel better.

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Rowan
Rowan
5 years ago
Reply to  Biker

I would strongly suggest that jb12 is a 77th Brigade operative.

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tonyspurs
tonyspurs
5 years ago
Reply to  Biker

“For my part i call mask wearers out when i’m in shops, i’ll say to them as i’m looking at the cabbages, the only difference between you and that cabbage is the cabbage isn’t wearing a mask”

Fucking hell brutal and true fantastic quote Biker

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Thomas_E
Thomas_E
5 years ago
Reply to  tonyspurs

I call out masked people when we walk outside, but now my wife has become very angry at me 🙂

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Rowan
Rowan
5 years ago
Reply to  Thomas_E

It’s time to stand up for yourself, there’s not too much time left.

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ConstantBees
ConstantBees
5 years ago
Reply to  Thomas_E

I crossed the road today and found myself level with a masked zombie heading in my direction. Found myself saying “childish idiot” out loud as I got near him. He ignored me and kept on walking, don’t know if he even heard me although my American voice tends to be rather distinctive. Of course, I live alone so I have no partner to upset.

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Borisbullshit
Borisbullshit
5 years ago
Reply to  Thomas_E

Yes I do too sometimes especially if they are young virtue signalling twats. I sound the horn on solo diver mask wearers and point to my head lol.

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David Grimbleby
David Grimbleby
5 years ago
Reply to  tonyspurs

Great to have right good rant with all the energy ,but where do all the people live in this mask etc, hell? Me and my wife go everywhere all the shops, big, small post orifice ignore any if any comments of which there are none, just ignore the bollox, once again no prediction of the ‘ future ‘ is ever right how the fuck can it be? a time machine hasn’t been invented yet.. go Biker!. and no at 50 your life isn’t almost over…These little grey souless fuckers will never win. And Toby and Hitchens have done a sterling job, so direct your ire elsewhere.

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Rowan
Rowan
5 years ago
Reply to  David Grimbleby

Toby and Peter Hitchens are clearly products of the establishment and so we should be grateful for what they have done so far. The real work is now up to the rest of us and we can start tomorrow. Don’t social distance, never wear a mask and never get tested. Most importantly don’t allow yourself, or your charges to be vaccinated, unless you want them to face a painful terminal illness. The fake Covid-19 pandemic has always been all about vaccines and the vaccines are all about depopulation.

Last edited 5 years ago by Rowan
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TyRade
TyRade
5 years ago
Reply to  Biker

oh welcome back!

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A Heretic
A Heretic
5 years ago
Reply to  Biker

In this case it probably is bollocks but peer review is not what people think it is – ie it does not mean the theory you’re putting forward is proven as so many seem to think.

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Borisbullshit
Borisbullshit
5 years ago
Reply to  Biker

Have to say I agree with that….I would not condemn any form of resistance now….things have gone too far for politeness. Some wimps on here even criticise Annie for ripping down obnoxious covid notices…more power to her scissors! The filth only really take on people they think they can beat…give them some real resistance and they run away or get down on one knee. So many have now been selected for their race and sex rather than effectiveness in the job anyway…and its a copper that told me that recently!

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BTLnewbie
BTLnewbie
5 years ago
Reply to  Biker

Thought we’d lost you Biker – thank God you’re back!
Many of us are quieter disciples doing what we can in our own small way. It may not be your way, but we’re moving towards the same end.

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