PCR Test Lab Chaos Exposed by Children’s Magazine
A feature in children’s science magazine How It Works has inadvertently shone a light on the wholly inadequate standards in the Milton Keynes PCR testing “megalab” in the spring. Among the accidental revelations of the interview with two lab workers, Beth and Ben, is that the quality control was so poor that the error rate was estimated to be around 30%.
A Lockdown Sceptics reader has summarised the key points (all points are his unless they’ve been put in quotation marks).
1) Long 12 hour shifts with inadequate breaks.
2) Adverse regimental discipline of time management that gravitated into bullying.
3) No Health and Safety training for a BSL2 facility as well as no induction in biohazards and the biology of contagion with a focus on SARS-CoV-2.
4) New starters rushed into a BSL2/3 environment in the absence of scrutiny of CVs/clinical assessment by an occupational health physician (e.g. personnel of unknown health/immunisation status/no determination of Hepatitis B immunisation status/no suggestion of or opportunity for Hepatitis B Vaccination).
5) Haphazard on-the-job-training by individuals with unknown expertise.
6) Recruitment of personnel with no proper assessment even of the most rudimentary skills for a biosecure laboratory.
7) PCR test error rate ~30%. Beth says: “I don’t know the percentage error at the moment, but when I was there I think it was a 30% error rate. That’s fairly high, but you have to remember that, in normal science, you do everything at least three times, whereas there you have one go at it. I do PCR tests a lot, and the threshold would usually be pretty high. But, in this circumstance it was low (i.e., high Cts) because they wanted to account for any detection of the virus. There are a lot of factors that can influence a test and I think when you do a test you should take it with a pinch of salt. You should definitely question a negative result if you know you have symptoms.” With high Cts to pick up any viral fragments you should also question a positive result, even with retesting.
What does this mean for the people working in the COVID-19 lab? Well, after each rack of 94 sample tubes have been processed, these tubes still containing unactivated biohazardous material (and now potentially contaminating the outside surface of almost every tube) are transferred in a plastic bag with a knot tied in it to a four degrees C cold room. Then, when a spurious COVID-19 test result comes back flagged by a biomedical scientist (safely cocooned in a positive-pressure room where the PCR machines inhabit), those at the sharp end have to go into the cold room and open up the plastic bags to fish around for the biosample tubes that need to be re-tested.
According to Beth this occurred 30% of the time – 30 out of every 100 samples. To venture into the cold room to perform this function is a really dangerous operation as the sealed plastic bags are like mini humidifying chambers, so when the bags are opened the aerosolised contents are released into the enclosed environment of the cold room. Therefore, air in the room over time will become contaminated with increasing concentrations of these aerosols, making just entry into this cold room very risky even if you don’t open any bags.
8) “Threshold for detection was low (i.e., high Cts) as they wanted to account for the detection of any virus.” This means the detection of signals in the samples being defined as positive when in fact they could be artefactual or due to cross-contamination between samples, or even picking up contaminants in the facility environment including personnel i.e., false positives.
9) Beth says: “There was no PPE a lot of the time when we were all together… There was less focus on social distance (and safety)” (and more focus on productivity). “I was surprised how little thinking I was required to do. I remember thinking ‘what if I don’t know enough?’ and ‘what if I’m completely out of my depth? But we just had to use manpower.”
This is completely unacceptable to put anybody in a situation where their instincts tell them they are operating in a very dangerous environment, but they are forced to carry on by people with little concern for the safety of their employees.
10) Ben says: “The application said that you would need a lot of experience, but I met one person who started who was a college student, and she didn’t even know how to pipette. That’s no insult to her, because I didn’t know how to pipette when I was a college student, but you don’t expect college students to be in a diagnostic laboratory working on the coronavirus. It was startling.”
This is a clear demonstration of the high incompetence of the UK Biocentre, Oxford University and the recruiters – REED. What these organisations have done is recruit individuals with no experience/qualifications whatsoever and have thrown them into a very dangerous setting, namely handling and processing biosamples containing potentially highly infectious dangerous contagion.
Read the full interview here.
Dr Mike Yeadon discusses the shortcomings of the PCR testing megalabs and their contribution to the false positive pseudo-epidemic for Lockdown Sceptics here.
When will the rest of the media catch on to this scandal?
Scotland Cancels Exams Again – Recovery Scotland Responds
A new group has been set up, Recovery Scotland (website not yet live), which will be lobbying for balance and a return to normal for Scotland. It’s an offshoot of Time For Recovery in England and is a collection of legal and scientific experts and local politicians. Led by Christine Padgham, the group has issued a statement responding to the Scottish Government’s announcement Tuesday that the 2021 exams will be cancelled.
We at Recovery Scotland were dismayed to hear of the Highers and Advanced Highers being cancelled for 2021, as well as the National 5s.
The Government has justified its actions on the basis of the disruption it itself has inflicted upon school children this year. Disruption to learning could easily be reduced by improving testing strategy and protocol, which would address the issues of the generation of false positives from this test – which is undoubtedly resulting in many being identified as infected and infectious with Covid when they are not.
Mr Swinney said yesterday he did not want pupils’ futures blighted through no fault of their own. We could not agree more.
This being the second year of exams being cancelled in Scotland, there can be no doubt our children’s futures are being blighted by the government for a virus which, according to the Scottish Government’s own data, poses virtually no risk to them.
“It is safe. It is fair,” Mr Swinney said of cancelling exams. We fail to see how blighting the future of our children is safe, nor how it is fair to put them at such disadvantage when there is almost zero Covid risk to them individually or as a group.
Follow Recovery Scotland on Twitter: @T4RecoveryAlba.
Stop Press: Stephen Daisley agrees, writing in the Spectator, that “There’s nothing ‘fair’ about the SNP cancelling exams“.
School Forces Children to Eat Mashed Potato With Hands – Because Covid
In the latest loony rule to emanate from Covid world, a primary school has forced its pupils to eat meals with their hands after knives and forks were banned. Metro has the details.
Pupils at Edgar Stammers Primary Academy in Walsall are having lunch delivered to their classrooms to ensure they do not mix with children from other bubbles during the coronavirus pandemic. The school has also stopped issuing pupils with knives, forks and even plates over fears of spreading the virus. Hot and cold lunches are dropped off to each class in ‘grab bags’ and children are told to wash their hands before and after eating. However parents were unhappy to discover youngsters were expected to eat “a small amount of mash served in a Yorkshire pudding” without cutlery.
One father was not impressed.
We’ve been telling our son to keep his hands away from his mouth because of coronavirus and now the school tell him to eat with his fingers. It’s utterly ridiculous. Have the school not heard of dishwashers?
The Academy Trust CEO, Professor Michelle Shaw, commented:
We have ensured that we keep our children safe by limiting the use of hard utensils which may spread the virus, and continue to monitor the situation following all available guidance. We cannot transport plates, hot food and utensils around schools safely, as some have steps, nor can we keep that food at the required temperatures to serve it. Therefore we have chosen to provide brown bag, picnic lunches in classrooms. These consist of healthy choices, devised with our caterers. We have risk assessed all of our Covid practices using an external health and safety specialist company and our practices are robust.
Yet all the other schools seem to manage. This is off-the-charts insanity. Yet another example of a head teacher enthusiastically aligning themselves with the authorities for self-important, vainglorious reasons.
Stop Press: A reader writes to tell us that the supposedly open schools nearby to him have sent most of their children home.
Have a look at this local grammar school’s latest news. All year groups closed except Year 11. This is the second local secondary school I’ve read about which is mostly closed. How on Earth can the government square this with their claim to have kept schools open?
Completely unsustainable, you’d have thought – but luckily with so many parents furloughed or made redundant, they are on hand to help their kids self-educate at home. Who can fault the government’s brilliant joined-up thinking after all?
Swedes Warned to “Stay in Bubble” – But Still No Excess Deaths
The Swedish Government has recommended citizens to avoid socialising outside their family over Christmas in anticipation of a Covid spike over the festive period. The Local SE reports.
“Stay in your bubble,” Public Health Agency director Johan Carlson urged people as he and the Swedish government presented new coronavirus guidelines for Christmas.
Sweden’s ban on public gatherings of more than eight people will remain in place through the Christmas holidays, and Prime Minister Stefan Löfven reiterated that eight is also meant to set the standard for all social gatherings.
“Avoid new contacts, meet as few people as you can and meet them as little as you can. Meet them briefly and keep a distance. And preferably meet them outside. Avoid travelling by train and bus,” said Löfven.
However, the country remains much lighter touch than elsewhere, with very few measures enforceable in law and no mask mandate.
Carlson urged people to stay in their current bubble of social contacts if possible. But he said that if people have to travel, and if they think it is necessary to for example meet their parents or grandparents, they should try to travel responsibly, by for example travelling in the same care or use public transport with bookable seats.
“But of course both adults and children have a need to go home to their parents. Middle-aged parents want to go home to grandma, who has perhaps been sitting home alone all of this year. And then you have to make preparations,” he said, adding that people should then take extra care to follow all the social distancing recommendations around ten days or so before they see anyone outside of their usual social bubble.
Lockdown Sceptics reported yesterday that Sweden has seen almost zero excess deaths for 2019-20 (July to July), with just a tiny 1% increase in mortality among the over 80s but below average mortality in other age groups. In the autumn so far, despite the surge in Covid “cases” and deaths the latest EuroMOMO figures show no excess mortality.
Meanwhile Germany has reported its highest daily death figure so far: 568 compared with a peak of 510 in April (Germany was not strongly affected in spring). “Cases” have also jumped despite a lockdown-lite since early November that closed bars, restaurants, gyms and cinemas and (through guidance) limited social contact to two households meeting outdoors. Surging cases, record deaths – you’d be forgiven for thinking Germans are dying in unprecedented numbers. Yet in the German states of Berlin and Hesse at least (the only two for which EuroMOMO has data) there is no excess mortality at all to the end of November.
More evidence of a pseudo-epidemic?
A Pharmacist Writes…
Pharmacist and Lockdown Sceptics reader Dr Rachel Airley has alerted us to what may be a fatal flaw in the Government’s plan to involve pharmacists in delivering the Covid vaccination programme.
We’ve looked into providing the AstraZeneca jab when it arrives but as per usual it’s a typical (Han)cock up. We understand the logistical issues with the Pfizer vaccine but we would be perfectly placed to provide the Oxford vaccine if and probably, when, it finally gets approved.
Instead of allowing all pharmacies to provide the jab in the style of our hugely successful flu jab campaign, they are putting totally unworkable criteria on us which means that most community pharmacies will be excluded.
The criteria mean that community pharmacies would have to provide at least 1,000 jabs a week as a 12-hours-a-day, 7-days-a-week service alongside the normal NHS pharmacy contract. That’s five minutes per jab alongside all other services! There would have to be additional funding for a second pharmacist or suitably trained pharmacy technician and probably an additional support staff member. Of course, this won’t be happening. Without these unworkable criteria, the approximately 13,000 community pharmacies in the UK could make real headway in the timely vaccination of the vulnerable. However, these ridiculous criteria mean that all but the largest city centre corporates will be able to provide the staff, space and throughput to do this.
Just why? It’s not just a slap in the face for pharmacists who have continued to see patients face-to-face throughout the pandemic as well as supporting the shielded, but to patients, who will now not be able to have the all-important accessibility that vaccination at a pharmacy provides. This has proven to be so efficient with the flu jab. No one understand the logistics of procurement, storage and administration of medicines like a pharmacist, it’s what we are trained to do. So just why have they done this?
Does anyone feel another letter to their MP coming on?
GMC Pressures Doctors to Have Vaccine
A concerned doctor has written to us about the new vaccine guidance received from the General Medical Council.
My wife was circulated this info from the GMC – which strongly seems to imply a moral duty of doctors to be vaccinated to prevent spreading coronavirus to vulnerable patients. The wrong implication is that you have to prove very clearly why you shouldn’t have the vaccine, and even then you will be causing a lot of problems for colleagues and patients.
Since a) there is as yet no evidence whatsoever that vaccination prevents transmission and b) the whole point of vaccination is surely to protect those vulnerable patients in the first place, why such need for fit, working doctors – who will all be in much younger age groups than the elderly and vulnerable – to be vaccinated to protect anyone other than themselves if they wish to do so.
Will vaccination soon be required for registration with the GMC? Given that a recent poll suggested 40% of doctors wouldn’t want to take the vaccine, I suspect there will be an even bigger rush for the exit from the NHS.
Hold Your Local Authority to Account Over Lockdown
Lockdown Sceptics reader Philip, who runs Unlock Surrey, has written to tell us about an effective way of taking action on a local level. Over to him.
I would like to alert my fellow sceptics to another possible front and forum in which to air our grievances, especially now that we are under a “local” lockdown regime. Local authorities on the county council and city council level across England have been given additional powers and responsibilities such as closing non-compliant businesses and venues without recourse and handing out fines. They also have to find the money to fund vastly greater levels of expenditure, from disseminating propaganda and deploying additional lockdown enforcement and compliance squads in local police forces, to mass testing programmes and even paying people to self-isolate. We can expect mass vaccination programmes to be added to these in the coming months.
In many cases a new committee is supposed to oversee these activities, often called the Local Outbreak Engagement Board (LOEB). According to the webpage of my county’s LOEB (Surrey County Council) it was “established to provide political ownership, public-facing engagement and communication for outbreak response”, as “each Upper Tier local authority is expected to develop Local Outbreak Control plans by the end of June. Local Outbreak Control Plans are designed to clarify how local government works with the national Test and Trace service, so that the whole local system is geared up to contain the virus.”
Anyone who has ever tried to complain to a council about something will be aware that they are not the most responsive of bodies. However, a great many of their meetings have been moved online – meaning that it has never been so convenient to hold these people to account. Unlike PMQs or opportunities to submit a question to a cabinet minister, not many people know about or care to engage with these local bodies making it possible to pack the allotted time for questions and petitions with scepticism which the officials must respond to. Petitions require numbers of signatures on the order of hundreds, not hundreds of thousands, so more can be produced with far less effort. The constitutional norm is usually for the questioner, should they wish to (virtually) attend the meeting, to have the right of reply and ask follow-up questions. Of course this does not guarantee a useful response, but if we take a page out of YouGov’s book for instance a carefully phrased question can back anyone into a corner and cause embarrassment!
If nothing else these local arms of government oppression should be made aware that there is a real opposition out there, that people are motivated, getting organised and paying attention. We ought to pressure local government to intervene on behalf of the people it is supposed to represent. Central government should be made to answer why it will not properly justify or explain its methods even to the people who are supposed to carry them out. If nothing else, the general public ought to have an opportunity to watch the videos of these meetings and see who is ruling over them so disastrously without remorse or repentance.
The Surrey LOEB had taken no questions from the public at all for several months until its latest meeting in November. Thanks to the efforts of Unlock Surrey, a support group and activist organisation (using the term loosely!) for sceptics, it had more questions to answer than it can address in a single meeting. All any interested reader has to do to accomplish the same is go to the “Democratic services” or “Meetings” or “Committees” section of their local Council website and find either the LOEB or in absence of one the public health committee, where they should be able to find the details of the next meeting and how to submit a question. Readers who wish to find out more about holding their local authorities to account are welcome to contact Unlock Surrey and we may be able to point them in the right direction. All Lockdown Sceptics in and around Surrey are of course welcome to join!
A few illustrative examples of webpages for these committees across the country are: Surrey, Cornwall, Portsmouth, Isle of Wight, Devon, Bedford, Oxfordshire and Newcastle.
They Lied
A poem by Lockdown Sceptics reader Mike Smelt.
They lied about their modelling
They lied about the deaths.
They lied about immunity
They lied about the meds.
They lied about PPE contracts
They lied about shutting schools.
They lied about pathology
They lied about the rules.
They lied about effects on cancer
They lied about Vitamin D.
They lied about track and trace
They lied about its fee.
They lied about susceptibility
They lied about asymptomatic spread.
They lied about false positives
They lied about hospital beds.
They lied about the cases
They lied about the second wave.
They lied about hospitality
They lied about how to behave.
They lied about the testing
They lied about the forecasts.
They lied about conflicts of interest
They lied about the masks.
They lied about the care homes
They lied about data seen.
They lied about absolutely everything
Now they want us to trust them with the vaccine.
One in Five UK Adults Do Not Think Covid Vaccines Are Safe
A new poll from Opinium reveals the high levels of uncertainty and distrust among Brits when it comes to the Covid vaccines. Hardly a surprise when they’ve been developed and approved in lightning-fast time.
Younger generations are most likely to be opposed, with over a quarter (27%) of those age under 45 thinking an approved Covid vaccine is unlikely to be safe, compared to just 14% of those aged 45-64, and 7% of those aged 65 or above. Young men are also more likely to be opposed, with 32% of men aged 18-44 saying they do not think an approved vaccine would be safe. Young women are more likely to have more general concerns, with 36% of women aged 18-44 feeling uneasy about the vaccine – partly a result we can probably assume of the uncertainties around the effect on pregnancy and fertility.
Round-up
- “UK regulators warn people with history of ‘significant’ allergic reactions not to have Pfizer/BioNTech jab” – Report from Sky News that two nurses (who suffer with allergies) have experienced an allergic reaction to the vaccine on the first day, prompting an immediate reaction restricting who should have it
- “What the Lancet study tells us about the Oxford vaccine” – Ross Clark in the Spectator digs into the findings and is not hugely impressed
- “‘We Hadn’t Really Thought Through the Economic Impacts’ ~ Melinda Gates” – Shocking confession from the philanthropist discussed by Jeffrey A. Tucker in AIER
- “YouTube to Delete Content Alleging Presidential Election Fraud” – More Big Tech censorship, despite the ongoing legal action, in the Epoch Times
- “Covid used as pretext to curtail civil rights around the world, finds report” – Guardian story on a report from civil rights group Civicus Monitor that will come as no surprise to lockdown sceptics
- “CRUCIAL Viral Update Dec 7th – Europe and USA Explained!” – Watch the latest from sceptic legend Ivor Cummins
- “Yes, the Covid rules are crazy aren’t they, Kay Burley?” – Allison Pearson on the latest Covidian hypocrisy in the Telegraph
- “NJ’s Murphy Complains Non-Compliance With COVID Contact Tracers Hits 74%” – Tyler Durden in Zero Hedge on the familiar non-compliance woes of contact tracing in New Jersey
- “New York lawmakers introduce bill to make COVID-19 vaccine MANDATORY. What about ‘my body, my choice’, critics wonder” – No indication yet of support from the Governor, but the highlighted clash with the standard abortion slogan beloved of New York lawmakers is striking
- “Now wokeness can make you sick” – Peter Franklin in UnHerd on some Covid-related gobbledegook from Cornell University
- “Revising the figures is easy. Repairing the damage done by lockdown is not” – Michael Curzon in Bournbrook on the damage wrought by the Government’s dodgy data
- “PREVENTING COVID-19: Dr. Pierre Kory Pushes for Approval of Ivermectin Treatment For Covid-19” – Fox News interview with the medic featured in yesterday’s update for testifying before the US Senate about under-rated therapeutics for COVID-19
- “Vaccine Documents from the UK Medical Freedom Alliance” – Useful templates and resources for medics and others for ensuring rights are upheld and consent respected during the vaccine programmes
Theme Tunes Suggested by Readers
Two today: “Planet Hell” by Nightwish and “I want to be free” by Toyah.
Love in the Time of Covid
We have created some Lockdown Sceptics Forums, including a dating forum called “Love in a Covid Climate” that has attracted a bit of attention. We have a team of moderators in place to remove spam and deal with the trolls, but sometimes it takes a little while so please bear with us. You have to register to use the Forums, but that should just be a one-time thing. Any problems, email the Lockdown Sceptics webmaster Ian Rons here.
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Woke Gobbledegook
We’ve decided to create a permanent slot down here for woke gobbledegook. Today, some good news. Cambridge University’s academic staff have successfully rebuffed the vice-chancellor’s attempt to impose a woke code of censorship on the University.
A vote on free speech at Cambridge University has strongly rejected guidelines requiring opinions to be “respectful” – after warnings this could limit freedom of expression. Instead the policy on free speech will support “tolerance” of differing views.
The proposed rules would have required staff, students and visiting speakers to remain “respectful” of the views and “identities” of others. But there were claims this would block controversial ideas and debates.
The university’s governing body, the Regent House, has voted by a big majority in support of amendments from those worried about a threat to academic freedom, introducing a commitment to “tolerance” rather than “respect”. The revised wording on free speech ensures the right to express “controversial or unpopular opinions within the law, without fear of intolerance or discrimination”.
The guidelines, adopted after the vote, will expect “staff, students and visitors to be tolerant of the differing opinions of others”. There is also an assertion of the need to hear from outside speakers, even if controversial, as long as they remain within the law.
Let’s hope this draws a line under the questionable decisions and double standards from Cambridge in recent years. 162 voted for the vice-chancellor’s “respect” proposal; 1316 voted for the “tolerance” alternative. Quite a victory. Congrats to Arif Ahmed, the leader of the resistance and member of the Free Speech Union’s Advisory Counsel.
“Mask Exempt” Lanyards
We’ve created a one-stop shop down here for people who want to buy (or make) a “Mask Exempt” lanyard/card. You can print out and laminate a fairly standard one for free here and it has the advantage of not explicitly claiming you have a disability. But if you have no qualms about that (or you are disabled), you can buy a lanyard from Amazon saying you do have a disability/medical exemption here (takes a while to arrive). The Government has instructions on how to download an official “Mask Exempt” notice to put on your phone here. You can get a “Hidden Disability” tag from ebay here and an “exempt” card with lanyard for just £1.99 from Etsy here. And, finally, if you feel obliged to wear a mask but want to signal your disapproval of having to do so, you can get a “sexy world” mask with the Swedish flag on it here.
Don’t forget to sign the petition on the UK Government’s petitions website calling for an end to mandatory face masks in shops here.
A reader has started a website that contains some useful guidance about how you can claim legal exemption.
If you’re a shop owner and you want to let your customers know you will not be insisting on face masks or asking them what their reasons for exemption are, you can download a friendly sign to stick in your window here.
And here’s an excellent piece about the ineffectiveness of masks by a Roger W. Koops, who has a doctorate in organic chemistry. See also the Swiss Doctor’s thorough review of the scientific evidence here.
Stop Press: Whose bright idea was it to put Santa in a big plastic bubble?
Wrong on so many levels.
The Great Barrington Declaration
The Great Barrington Declaration, a petition started by Professor Martin Kulldorff, Professor Sunetra Gupta and Professor Jay Bhattacharya calling for a strategy of “Focused Protection” (protect the elderly and the vulnerable and let everyone else get on with life), was launched in October and the lockdown zealots have been doing their best to discredit it ever since. If you googled it a week after launch, the top hits were three smear pieces from the Guardian, including: “Herd immunity letter signed by fake experts including ‘Dr Johnny Bananas’.” (Freddie Sayers at UnHerd warned us about this the day before it appeared.) On the bright side, Google UK has stopped shadow banning it, so the actual Declaration now tops the search results – and Toby’s Spectator piece about the attempt to suppress it is among the top hits – although discussion of it has been censored by Reddit. The reason the zealots hate it, of course, is that it gives the lie to their claim that “the science” only supports their strategy. These three scientists are every bit as eminent – more eminent – than the pro-lockdown fanatics so expect no let up in the attacks. (Wikipedia has also done a smear job.)
You can find it here. Please sign it. Now well over 700,000 signatures.
Update: The authors of the GDB have expanded the FAQs to deal with some of the arguments and smears that have been made against their proposal. Worth reading in full.
Update 2: Many of the signatories of the Great Barrington Declaration are involved with new UK anti-lockdown campaign Recovery. Find out more and join here.
Update 3: You can watch Sunetra Gupta set out the case for “Focused Protection” here and Jay Bhattacharya make it here.
Update 4: The three GBD authors plus Prof Carl Heneghan of CEBM have launched a new website collateralglobal.org, “a global repository for research into the collateral effects of the COVID-19 lockdown measures”. Follow Collateral Global on Twitter here.
Judicial Reviews Against the Government
There are now so many JRs being brought against the Government and its ministers, we thought we’d include them all in one place down here.
First, there’s the Simon Dolan case. You can see all the latest updates and contribute to that cause here.
Then there’s the Robin Tilbrook case. You can read about that and contribute here.
Then there’s John’s Campaign which is focused specifically on care homes. Find out more about that here.
There’s the GoodLawProject’s Judicial Review of the Government’s award of lucrative PPE contracts to various private companies. You can find out more about that here and contribute to the crowdfunder here.
The Night Time Industries Association has instructed lawyers to JR any further restrictions on restaurants, pubs and bars.
And last but not least there’s the Free Speech Union‘s challenge to Ofcom over its ‘coronavirus guidance’. You can read about that and make a donation here.
Samaritans
If you are struggling to cope, please call Samaritans for free on 116 123 (UK and ROI), email jo@samaritans.org or visit the Samaritans website to find details of your nearest branch. Samaritans is available round the clock, every single day of the year, providing a safe place for anyone struggling to cope, whoever they are, however they feel, whatever life has done to them.
Quotation Corner
We know they are lying. They know they are lying, They know that we know they are lying. We know that they know that we know they are lying. And still they continue to lie.
Alexander Solzhenitsyn
It’s easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.
Mark Twain
Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, one by one.
Charles Mackay
They who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.
Benjamin Franklin
To do evil a human being must first of all believe that what he’s doing is good, or else that it’s a well-considered act in conformity with natural law. Fortunately, it is in the nature of the human being to seek a justification for his actions…
Ideology – that is what gives the evildoing its long-sought justification and gives the evildoer the necessary steadfastness and determination.
Alexander Solzhenitsyn
No lesson seems to be so deeply inculcated by the experience of life as that you never should trust experts. If you believe the doctors, nothing is wholesome: if you believe the theologians, nothing is innocent: if you believe the soldiers, nothing is safe. They all require to have their strong wine diluted by a very large admixture of insipid common sense.
Robert Gascoyne-Cecil, 3rd Marquess of Salisbury
Nothing would be more fatal than for the Government of States to get into the hands of experts. Expert knowledge is limited knowledge and the unlimited ignorance of the plain man, who knows where it hurts, is a safer guide than any rigorous direction of a specialist.
Sir Winston Churchill
If it disagrees with experiment, it’s wrong. In that simple statement is the key to science.
Richard Feynman
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
C.S. Lewis
The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants.
Albert Camus
We’ve arranged a global civilization in which most crucial elements profoundly depend on science and technology. We have also arranged things so that almost no one understands science and technology. This is a prescription for disaster. We might get away with it for a while, but sooner or later this combustible mixture of ignorance and power is going to blow up in our faces.
Carl Sagan
Political language – and with variations this is true of all political parties, from Conservatives to Anarchists – is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind.
George Orwell
The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane.
Marcus Aurelius
Necessity is the plea for every restriction of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.
William Pitt the Younger
If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.
Joseph Goebbels (attributed)
The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary.
H.L. Mencken
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Vallance admits The 10pm Curfew Did NOTHING | Carl Vernon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hphFofIu2y4
Dear UKUK
Kay Burley’s Coronavirus Suspension Proves Hypocrisy of Media Elite
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpW4GDidIq8
MP (who voted for lockdown) tells Andre Walker that they all know Coronavirus is nonsense
Damn! Hit the post and McGrew knocked in the rebound. 😉
Nice try!
Dea Ten
Why Small Businesses Should Stay Closed Forever!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_O9ltm_Gml0
Every true word here is said in jest
Two movies/books with a similar theme that I have referenced before are Minority Report and Logan’s Run. There are many parallels with our reality but it is the aspect of “gamekeeper turned poacher” or “hunter becomes the hunted” that I want to focus on here. In both stories the main protagonist falls foul of the system that they have been employed to police. In Minority Report John Anderton is a police captain in the precrime division and in Logan’s Run, Logan is a Sandman tasked with terminating Runners (people who do not wish their lives to be ended prematurely as the system demands). Anderton ends up on the run for a crime he is yet to commit and Logan is turned into a runner as part of an undercover operation the system has given to him. Both become enemies of the people they used to work with, people they would have once called friends. I don’t want to get too deep into this, but I’m sure some people can relate. The reason why this particular chain of thought came to me was due to the recent scandal of Kay Burley and friends out celebrating her 60th birthday. The Sun has… Read more »
People who think Big Gov or Big Pharma personally care for them are the least intelligent people on Earth.
And therein lies the rub, many people still think that the state has their best interests at heart when its patently not true.
Hear hear and I speak as a former public servant (also son of a (retired) civil servant and grandson of a (deceased) civil servant).
For many years my mantra has been: the state is not your friend.
And though the validity of that statement has been borne out time and again by events, including this year’s utter shitshow, the vast majority do not see it. I guess, for most, thinking for yourself is too onerous, so far it’s better to simply trust what the Inner Party (the MSM, government and academy) tells you.
I wouldn’t mind, if the laziness and complicity of the sheeple, had consequences for them alone. But, alas, those of us who are able to think suffer just as much if not more. And on that rather depressing note I think it’s time for a glass of wine. Chin chin.
Big Tech, Big Food…
and just wait for Big (Cheaper) Energy to be supplanted by Big (much more expensive) Energy.
none of them care for the plebs they despise, but need
They don’t need that many of us and they certainly don’t want any of us. Now where does that leave us?
The fact that they don’t need us should tell you what they really think about us. Not much. We can be replaced, by robots.
So far, all elites have needed masses as slaves/consumers/tax payers. The robot replacement prospect may be real. I don’t know enough about the scenarios and various hypotheses to endorse or contest. You may well be right Richard
A similar theme is explored in a more contemporary setting in the Will Smith film Enemy Of The State.
A high flying lawyer falls foul of rogue elements of the State who cancel him digitally so no credit cards and no phone as his wife, employer and friends desert him.
That’s exactly what Big Tech are trying to do: unperson you if you offend their PC ideology. They take down your videos, demonetise you, shut down your sites, remove your books from sale, stop you using PayPal accounts…while letting others attack and misrepresent you mercilessly, so destroying your standing in society, losing you friends, your job and if you are unlucky making you a target for violence. If this goes on we’ll get to the point where people have their bank accounts closed, supermarkets won’t serve people , food outlets won’t deliver to you, you will be banned from all pubs . ..
The future’s not bright and it’s not orange…it’s dimly lit and totally shit.
Yes but if we keep fighting the big gov we can win in the end. You might think you cannot do anything to stop it but writing to your MP every day will help to give him reason to put your point and then MPs will eventually decide must help if they want to keep their jobs. I know it’s hard and even my family does not want to get involved and I cannot discuss anything with them or send them information as they will not read it.
Ha ! LOL The stupid majority SUPPORT the lockdowns and the social credit system and wokeness.
Writing to one’s MP’s recently graduated Oxbridge intern is a complete waste of time! Just try and find a niche in this shitty world that is upon us.
In Burley’s case it is more about Karma,she has made a career out of ripping people to pieces for transgressions like she made. Rita Ora did the same, apologised and moved on,shes wealthy and can afford the fine so shes paid the tariff so is clear.. Burley gets paid for doing the dirty on people and throwing it in their faces for the paid audience. Its not really like the film. Bunter Boulton is probably not her friend and may have an axe to grind with her.
I don’t know the personal relationships between these people. If I was being cynical I’d think there are some people at Sky who probably welcome the possibility of key positions becoming available.
The warning is that those who call for rules/restrictions/punishments against others should be aware that they are not given a free pass just because they are the ones calling for them.
For example, people who call for “punishment” of those who don’t vaccinate think that they are safe because they would choose to vaccinate. But they likely don’t realise that the punishments would still apply to them if they were ever to change their mind, which of course they wouldn’t be able to.
All those soft questions at the press conferences didn’t save Beth Rigby.
It’s good for so called journalists to realise they are expendable.Now they might start doing their job properly and hold the government to account for the insane way of life they have imposed on us.
If you really want to depress yourself – go a step further, film-wise. Technocracy leads to “Snowpiercer” and, eventually, of course, “Soylent Green” (set, presciently, in 2022). Mind you, the bemasked sheeple are probably only good for fertiliser. I tell them that if annoyed. They just look puzzled.
Tell them that when you see them at the garden centre and point at a bag of fertilizer.
Very thought-provoking post. This is the way of things nowadays, anyone who offends the self-styled “righteous” isn’t just reprimanded, they’re liable to lose their job and not be allowed to get another one – the punishment never ends.
Also Fahrenheit 451?
Yes, and Logan’s Run had Jenny Agutter in it , which is a bonus.
There will be no children left to worry about.
On the other hand, if you were bent on world domination but wanted to make people think you were just a well-meaning-but-slightly-bumbling philanthropist you would say that wouldn’t you..? 🙂
“When will the rest of the media catch on to this huge scandal?”
Doesn’t matter. The real question is when will they start reporting it?
And the answer is never.
Excellent examples from US right now (Bidens/CCP).
Yeap, that is the sad reality.
You are probably right. The capture of the media has been an on-going process since the 1950s, and has reached near total fulfilment.
Is that an actual Opinium graphic, or is it an LS graphic just showing the results?
Either way, I don’t like being labelled an anti-vaxxer, because it’s one thing I’m not. I’m sure many other here will feel the same.
If it is an LS graphic, can I urge Toby and Will to change it.
My thoughts exactly.
I’m very happy to have been vaccinated against polio and had the BCG jab.
I note that 65+ men are the least wary of the Pfizer jab, is that possibly for the same reason.
Anyone know if, or when, they stopped routine polio and BCG vaccinations ?
I’m just past forty. We had the BCG in year 9 (3rd year of secondary school)
polio still happens (infant vaccination program). BCG was stopped in the 90s or early 00s, due to reduced prevalence. I think high risk groups still advised to get it.
They have never stopped. A recent outbreak of paralysis in India was traced back to the Gates´s GABI vaccine campaign. I believe almost 490,000 children were paralysed. Don´t google it but look it up in PubMed. I can provide a link but not till I get home this evening.
Interestingly, I looked up the WHO site on TB and BCG. Paragraph 3 states that the BCG does not prevent TB but is meant to reduce secondary effects of the disease…..
Tuberculosis is caused by what?
It’s caused by a mycobacterium. It’s notoriously difficult to treat and required long periods of isolation with, I believe, a 3 – pronged antibiotic treatment. It was eradicated in The UK in the 60s but crept back with increased travel. In a TB outbreak I would wear a face mask as it definitely is spread by coughing, as opposed to Covid and ‘flu……
The main source of TB used to be infected milk. My grandfather died of TB caught from his cows, as did my other grandmother’s brother, possibly from drinking their milk. We have had a TB testing and eradication programme on dairy farms since the 1950s. Anyone who read the early James Herriot books will remember that TB testing was one of his staple tasks.
GAVI. This from June, 2020.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/04/bill-gates-backed-vaccine-alliance-looks-to-raise-7point4-billion.html
and more…
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=gages+gavi&ia=web
Yes. The point is risk assessment – and IMNSHO, accepting a vaccine after 9 months ‘testing’ is accepting a stupid degree of risk.
We should certainly not bang the ‘anti-vaxxer’ drum. Totally counter-productive.
I am an anti-vaxxer, anthropomorphic climate-change denier, and anti-christ..
We never went to the moon. I have no idea who was flying the planes on 911 but the THREE skyscrapers that collapsed into their own footprint were all demolished with explosives. And I expect the American election was seriously compromised.
I’m proud to not have group-think. Proud to not be a sheep. Proud to not blindly swallow the shit spewed out daily by governments and their media mouthpieces. Blessed that I see truth.
Epstein didn’t kill himself. Nor did David Kelly. Nor likely did Ghislane Maxwell’s dad. I am an anti-vaxxer.
Brother, 911 was absolutely controlled demo.
In any good quality video you can see the cutter charges going off in sequence down the side of each tower.
As a chartered engineer (40+ years) I disagree. Fire explains it adequately if you understand building structures, steel’s response to temperature and Euler (buckling).
Pompous twat. I am also an engineer. Red brick BEng Hons. No steel framed skyscraper has ever completely fallen due to fire or aircraft impact. The heat and energy simply isn’t there. If you want to disagree with the thousands of engineers who disagree with you. Fine. If you want to side with the government and their agencies e.g. media. Fine. I expect you believe in man-made climate change. I wouldn’t want you working on any product or structure near me.
MA, MICE me, you need to read reports by proper engineers. I was watching it on TV live and was amazed at the speed of failure so I took the time to educate myself about the details of the structure and fire proofing.
you need to go fuck yourself.
At least you haven’t accused me of being AH yet.
Are you still here? Engineer my arse.
obviously the recruiters of the 77th Brigade don’t have “literacy and politeness” as qualifications LOL
I’ve noticed that, Eliza. Either they are educationally under par and therefore have limited ability to debate/use language to make their point, or they deliberately play down that aspect of communication by throwing around poorly constructed insults. They also use phrases like ‘you need to sort yourself out’, a lot. Pathetic way to earn a crust, in any case. 🙂
Can’t argue? Poor logic? Try name calling. It works sometimes.
What do the ‘proper engineers’ have to say about building 7? The one that collapsed without being hit but an aeroplane and the one NIST deemed not worthy of inclusion in the official report?
He means the Architects for 9/11 truth. What do these people with all those qualifications know?
Not much about structures I’m afraid, that’s why they rely on the humble engineer to make their fancy schemes stand up.
Remember how the Millenium ‘wobbly’ Bridge was Foster’s brilliant creation before opening and rapidly became Arup’s problem (which they fixed) once it started moving under synchronised pedestrians (who sychronised themselves to the motion increasing the problem)?
Conspiracy theorists have long claimed that explosives downed World Trade Center 7, north of the Twin Towers. The long-awaited report from the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) conclusively rebuts those claims. Fire alone brought down the building, the report concludes, pointing to thermal expansion of key structural members as the culprit. The report also raises concerns that other large buildings might be more vulnerable to fire-induced structural failure than previously thought.
By Arianne Cohen (Popular Mechanics, plenty of others available)
Aug 1, 2017
https://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/design/a3524/4278874/
The NIST report didn’t discuss Building 7. NIST also refused to release details of the methodology of how its computer graphics showed the ‘falling into footprints’. I’m not an engineer, but THREE skyscrapers falling into their own footprints, one of which wasn’t hit by an airplane doesn’t seem possible to me. I also seem to remember (I could be wrong) that there were large insurance policies taken out on the buildings.
DavidC
The Warren Report also said LHO was responsible for Kennedy’s murder. As you are using the pejorative ‘conspiracy theorist’ term above I will end the conversation as you obviously are not looking at this objectively.
I just notice you have a link to popular mechanics? The CIA funded house magazine? Thanks that’s cheered me up.
I watched one documentary that said that the structural integrity of the twin towers had been compromised during its construction, making it potentially susceptible to collapse in extreme conditions like intense heat generated by fire and chemicals mixing.
Well, I’m. not an engineer, but I know a logical fallacy when I see one. A statement like this can only ever be a summary of what has happened in the world: it’s not an a priori truth. If you accept, as most people do, that a steel-framed skyscraper did fall as a result of an aircraft impact and consequent fire, then the statement in question is simply not a correct summary of what has happened in the world.
What about the steel framed skyscraper that fell that wasn’t hit by an aeroplane?
Indeed, if it fell as a result of fire, that would also be an example that refuted the general proposition. Mind you, I’m not claiming to know whether it did or not, just commenting on the logic, or lack of it, in the original discussion.
https://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/design/a3524/4278874/
Popular mechanics? Lol
This comment is itself a logical fallacy. What most people accept or not has no bearing on the truth. This is an appeal to populism and forms no basis or refutation or argument against the original point.
This logical fallacy is further compound by a circular logic saying that if in fact most people do accept that an airliner felled a skyscraper then this is sufficient to render the original point incorrect.
Well, I’d say it has something to do with the truth, although it is not determinative. I’m saying that if you accept that a steel-framed skyscraper was felled by an aircraft then it is a fallacy to also accept that no skyscraper has ever been felled by an aircraft.
You complained of using logical fallacies butd are employing them yourself.
The truth is objective regardless of what most people think. If you accept that a skyscraper was felled by an aircraft unless you can either prove it or have definitive evidence it is not a fallacy to retain an open mind to other possibilities. That would the objective pov.
As far as I know, no other steeled skyscraper has had a jet airliner flown into it at speed. So I think we know who’s being prattisb here.
Stay away from Natural History Museum, Selfridges, Harrods and lots of beautiful medieval country churches would be good advice in that case.
Nigel, please watch this video, you’re obviously one of the brainwashed…
https://youtu.be/6fsvwnRVVyY
Beautiful Railway Bridge of the Silv’ry Tay!
Alas! I am very sorry to say
You are going to compare a badly built 19th century bridge with a steel framed skyscraper? The mind boggles. Well. Yours does.
I used to look at the reused ‘High Girders’ as I cycled to work. One of my favourite so bad it’s good poems.
An interesting forensic case particularly the part played by beaumont egg. Did lead to Forth Railway Bridge so not all bad. Which brings us back to Hitchcock and LOEB, spooky!
For the stronger we our houses do build,
The less chance we have of being killed.
As also a Chartered Engineer, though not in mechanical/civil areas, I think we are dismissing Nigel too quickly. I think we were all amazed at the speed of the 911 collapses but it is not that unrealistic when you have fire, impact damage and weight factors. What it has to do with Covid and our infamous PCR test I am not sure.
https://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/design/a3524/4278874/
Yep, there were accelerants in the building (think of all the plastics) that raised the temperature enough to melt metal. ..the molten metal can be seen dripping down in video.
It’s not necessary to melt the steel, only to raise its temperature until it yields. The floors of the towers were concrete on metal deck supported on very long span light trusses and not robust enough to cope with damage from such a large aircraft (unlike the Empire State that survived a Mitchell bomber impact between 78th and 80th floors). Office design loads are low, not much more than domestic (in practice usually lower), the lighter you can get the floors the higher you can go. Impact damage and burning kerosene made the trusses yield. The trusses restrained the columns against buckling. Lose one floor and the factor of safety of the columns above and below is one quarter what it was so the columns fail (some already damaged by the impact and fire) and you’re in trouble.
No disrespect to Architects but if they knew much about structural design there would be no work for engineers.
Yeah, line, it’s a good thing we never went to the moon, because it’s made if green cheese and any attempt to tell you different is a conspiracy.
Gimme strength.
Aha.. what 12, 13 successful missions and forty years later no-one has gone back since? Alas this lie, this conspiracy has a shelf-life. In 50 years time when we still haven’t gone back, people are going to be more questioning. Then again, the digital effects now possible mean they can lie about a Mars mission.
Give you strength? I’d rather give you nothing.
I’ll take it.
His piles are playing up this morning, by the sound of it. I’ve heard they can make one awfully tetchy. 😉
Useful references:
1 Miss Anne Elk and her theory. Which is hers. https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2oh8ia
2 A 100% non-fictional documentary on faking Mars landings.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capricorn_One
Lovely Cheese Gromit!
Well apparently somebody recorded over all their data, so they do not know how to. You know what NASA means right, Never A Straight …Lying fucks
There were, in total, 17 Apollo missions not 12 or 13, only six of which landed on the lunar surface, the last being Apollo 17 which was 48 years ago. And, as for why we haven’t gone back…well, we have. We’ve sent numerous robotic probes and rovers – it’s far cheaper than sending people.
And, in reality, that’s what killed off Apollo – simple economic concerns. It was the same with the space shuttle – there are cheaper ways of getting people and materials into space and to the ISS.
I think that is known as a strawman…
Oh hello….do we say welcome to the 77th Brigade – or no?
BTW – out of interest – what salary/hours/etc do you all have?
The wages of sin is death but the hours are good.
I read somewhere that this site was going to be targeted by them. Looks like that’s the case.
What about the Lizards?! Here’s a helpful picture:
https://thelesabre.com/41463/features/conspiracy-corner-lizard-people/
Oh Wow! So David Icke was right all along!
Excuse me butting in…but what exactly has any of this got to do with why we are here on this site….please take your row over architecture elsewhere
I thought we were here to discuss how a elite cabal of rich powerful interests were seeking to use a false flag event to re-order the world to their liking? What is happening now as a result of a false pandemic is tried and trusted formula that also happened as a result of 911.
Perhaps though some ‘conspiracies’ are more acceptable than others – or perhaps it is all just incompetence?
Exactly – a total waste of f.ing space and time.
Exactly – I don’t mind a bit of off-topic stuff and sometimes do it myself (waffling on about Classic FM yesterday), but these lengthy exchanges are a waste of space here.
One correction, I think we did go to the Moon but a lot later. The first one was deffintly faked and filmed by Stanley Kubrick. Everything else, pretty spot on.
Then there is BUILDING 7. That was explosively demolished. The Canadian engineering students ran a study for 10 years trying to simulate the collapse with modelling and the only conclusion they could come up with as to why the building collapsed, it was NOT hit by any planes, was that it was explosively demolished. We also have Mayor Juliani saying he got a call from the fire department saying they were going to “Pull it”.
And the BBC announced that building 7 had collapsed 20 minutes before it did actually “collapse”.
Yer
apart from all that. Trust in the official 911 fairytale.
Suckers
https://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/design/a3524/4278874/
popular mechanics eh? lol
OK, so glad you cleared that up for me.
“Proud to not blindly swallow the shit spewed out daily by governments and their media mouthpieces.”
… but shit from other sources is OK!
Hello – Is that 77th Brigade speaking?
Haven’t the Chinese found the Covid on the moon ?
Covid Man. Sung by Elton John.
Yes.
It doesn´t matter. Anyone who opposes them and not accept universal vaccination for whatever reason, will be labelled an anti-vaxxer. You are obviously a danger to the community and will be made to suffer if you raise your head above the parapet.
Like Cool Hand Luke.
Captain 357 here, nothing significant to report.
If you want your freedom back, just be free.
Out through the night
An’ the whispering breezes
To the place where they keep
The Imaginary Diseases
https://youtu.be/HrmtAQvmfN8
Another blood-boiling use of terminology on here…”anti-vaxxers”. This site must absolutely stop using the languague of the oppressors. I am beginning to wonder if this place is a trap and simply a charade purporting to oppose lockdowns and in reality is a survellance tool to identify those who shall be dealt with first when the time comes. Get your act together authors.
I visited Opiniums website and, while not locating that survey found the pastel blue and pink endemic throughout so it is probably their graphic rather than Wills.
Yes, it’s so easy to categorise oneself according to the classifications devised by others. If you had never heard of “anti-vaxxers” as a pre-defined group, you would operate in a rational continuum between trusting the genuine scientists and doctors who had gone before, and distrusting the politically-motivated vaccines commissioned by psychopaths who blatantly fiddle Covid statistics, trust PCR tests and think Neil Ferguson is the greatest.
Instead, there is now a force field around certain topics that makes them off-limits, simply because we fear classifying ourselves as “conspiracy theorists”. If someone had devised this as a system, you’d have to hand it to them that it’s quite clever.
‘Blatantly fiddle Covid statistics’.
Local Live (mirror group news) still at it.
Yesterday’s lead article was ‘5 new Covid cases in County’. Turns out to be from five random dates going back to mid November.
Today’s lead ‘5 Covid deaths at city hospital’
Turns out to be the total of deaths over the past 4 days in which 1, 1, 1 and 2 people sadlidied with/of Covid.
💯 👏🏼 This ⬆️
Yes, the people writing for Lockdown Sceptics must understand how the term has been weaponised by Big Pharma. In many parts of society you would be a social outcast and on mumsnet they would happily ships you off to a concentration camp.
Basically if you delay having one vaccine you are now a so called ‘anti-vaxxer’ all because of a sinister government agenda.
It’s similar to the use of the terms “racist” and “fascist” to close down debate on various topics.
Mumsnet is possibly the most unhealthily-anxious website I’ve ever seen.
Are there any yummy mummies on there though?
Pro choice and informed decision
Our oppressors are anti-human. And that’s a fact Jack.
No Vaccine necessary. Ivermectin stops SARS-Cov2 in its tracks, no transmission, no disease. https://www.bitchute.com/video/s1nPYDj7KBEQ/
Get vitamin D. Go outside.
I understand the vaccine is like the flu jab 95% remain well but as Van Tam stated recently “we don’t know how many can become infected. When I heard this I thought what’s he saying, that I could become infected after being vaccinated? Then I thought this covid vaccine is like the flu vaccine if you become infected your unlikely to become severely ill or die. Then I thought to myself do I really need the vaccine after all I am under 70 and have no health problems so how do I gain. I then looked at how many of us are uninfected, and discovered that more than 99% population are covid free. So you could say the lockdown is more effective than the vaccine, but as we all know lockdown have not only economic but also health and social consequences. I also believe lockdown has also prolonged the pandemic, Dr Mike Yeadon and Ivor Cummins constantly tell us that it ended June/ July. And I agree it should have if we had followed what we’ve done in all past pandemics. So where does the vaccine come into all this, as Dr Mike Yeadon says 30% have prior immunity and… Read more »
The makers of the vaccine do not claim that it prevents infection. They only claim that it reduces the severity of the infection.
Some people will react badly to the vaccine and die. Is it still worth it?
Hello,
please re -read my message the point I am making is as you say the vaccine won’t prevent infections only the severity. This is why I say yes to vaccines but NO to mass vaccination which could lead to harm and deaths. At the end of the day people want to know what is the chance of dying from covid. My chance of death from covid is very low so I won’t bother but if I was elderly or had heart disease then I would consider it. As I work in the nhs every year I am offered the flu vaccine this year I didn’t bother as I’ve been taking vitamin D. But normally I have it and I’ve never had any problem in fact I always wonder did I actually get it. A free people should not be forced or denied a vaccine because of people on either side saying what is good for them.
I was like you – vaccinations were a tiny part of my course work at uni and I never gave them a thought until the Wakefield affair in the eighties. Even then I was abroad and it got no coverage so my children were vaccinated (late). Then I started to inform myself after having a severe dose of ‘flu in 2019. What I found was astonishing. For instance, ‘flu vaccine has not reduced pneumonia or influenza mortality in the USA. You are 65% more likely to contract respiratory illnesses after the vaccine. Flu vaccine does not reduce demand on hospitals. The Jan 2020 US Pentagon Study found that the flu shot increases the risk from corona viruses by 36%. Repeat flu vaccines increase the likelihood of vaccine failure. These are from studies available on “PubMed” – the biggest medical library in the world from the “National institute of Health”. Easier than reading medical journals if you are prepared to sleep with the devil is to look up “Children’s Health Defense”. Bobby Kennedy says he’s not anti vaccine, he’s pro health. There is a wealth of verifiable material on that website. Vaccines emphatically do not protect the vulnerable. In some years… Read more »
There’s hopeful signs – but the same rigour needs to be applied as we do to mask, lockdown and vaccine evidence. Otherwise we’re just having a mud-fight
Good old Guardian bringing up the rear.
I notice they don’t include the UK among the countries that have sinned.
I should have thought we belonged in the ‘closed’ category. Particularly Wales, which becomes literally ‘closed’ whenever Dungford and his border goons can arrange it.
Does teetotal Dungpile realise that a total alcohol ban would mean an end of him ? Welsh government have denied it apparently and we all know what that means.
To put an end. to Dungford I’d willingly drink ditchwater.
I don’t know about the Welsh, but as an English person I consider banning pubs unBritish.
The Welsh Left has always had a Puritan streak. As Harold Wilson said, the Labour Party owes more to Methodism than Marx.
Mark Carney is giving the Reith Lectures this year.
Yesterday he was outlining how Newton lost a fortune in the South Seas Bubble.
That boom clearly made no sense as did many things Mr Carney witnessed during his career.
“If things appear to make no sense it’s because they make no sense; don’t invest, run!”
Lockdown as a reaction to the Covid makes no sense . . .
God protect us from woke Canadians. Cambridge U. Vice-Chancellor is another.
Also an illustration of how a towering genius can at the same time be a naive and gullible fool. We have all been marvelling at the idiocy of the ‘intelligent’ Covizombies we all know.
We have no Newtons now. But I wonder what the late Stephen Hawking – a ‘vulnerable’ person if ever there was one – would have made of the curfent bollox.
I’ve posted before that I claim no expertise in cosmology but I never thought much of Hawking’s opinions outside of his specialist field.
Me neither. He was as entitled to put forward opinions on a wide range of matters as we all are, but there was always the implication that because he was a Professor of Mathematics his views on absolutely anything should be accorded an especial reverence.
Sheldon Cooper couldn’t tie his shoelace..
Goes to show that intelligence and genuis doesn’t mean that they’re immune from gullibility. I always like to use my in-laws as an example – experts in their field but believe in the existence of the Magic Money Tree & couldn’t run a lemonade stand even if their lives depended on it,
He initially made a killing. But then when so many friends were investing he got carried away by the mania and ended up losing much more.
Aaaarrrgghhhh!!!
I’m glad there’s a group called Recovery Scotland trying to help schoolchildren but this frustrates me:
“Disruption to learning could easily be reduced by improving testing strategy and protocol, which would address the issues of the generation of false positives from this test – which is undoubtedly resulting in many being identified as infected and infectious with Covid when they are not.”
Disruption can be ended today by STOPPING THE WHOLE STUPID CIRCUS!!!!!!
Stop playing the enemy’s game.
None of this is right, moral or necessary. It needs to end. Now.
Not be tweaked or improved. Ended. Now. Forever.
Even if they found a cold – let people get back to their lives. Scrap lockdowns, restrictions, Covid laws etc.. Demand old normal
LOEB! The apparatchiks are really taking the piss now.
Nathan Freudenthal Leopold Jr. and Richard Albert Loeb, usually referred to collectively as Leopold and Loeb, were two wealthy students at the University of Chicago who in May 1924 kidnapped and murdered 14-year-old Bobby Franks in Chicago.
Perhaps they’re Hitchcock fans?
Patrick Hamilton’s play “Rope” and Hitchcock’s film of it are based on that murder. Maybe you knew that already!
I see the MSM are keeping their own rule breaking very quiet, hardly a peep from them.
Kay Burley “should be held to account” after breaking Covid rules.
The Sky News presenter reportedly celebrated her 60th birthday party with a group of ten colleagues, with four group members ending up at her London home.
Another case of one rule for them and another for us.
It’s in the Sun, see post by Nobody2020 above and Alison Pearson gave her a mauling in the Telegraph, todays roundup.
The haughty hypocrisy of these “slebs” is annoying but the thing that bothers me most is their grovelling apologies when they inevitably get caught out. Is the restriction breaker super-injunction next?!
What I’d really like them to do is say “yes I had a massive party. We drank, we sang, we danced, we ate finger food rather than substantial meals, I ended up going home with the sexy waiter and it was all bloody good fun. F all your stupid rules”.
Agree. But their advertising sponsors would then cut off the cash. It pays to grovel.
I agree that people usually have short memories and will forgive the slebs for their indiscretions but I’m not so sure on covid mania…it’s shoved down our throats 24/7 and everyone has endured some level of sacrifice to the alter of the Beloved NHS. Could be the end of her career?
According to The Sun, two people at the Burley celebrations have signed non disclosures.
Exactly, they should come out as full sceptics if that’s what they actually think. But annie makes a good point about the sponsors.
And she was one of the worst offenders of this shit show. Not as bad as Piers Morgan but equally complicit as well. To be honest, I felt a degree of schadenfreude when I heard about it.
The cynic in me sees this as a stitch up job, I don’t give a toss what she does but the ‘one rule for me…’ annoys me the most, They know it’s all crap they just haven’t got the guts to tell us we are being conned.
I will never forget Kay Burleys “travel” slots during peak-lockdown when she would go to an outside broadcaster in a tourist hot-spot, like Venice, or Las Vegas, or the pyramids in Egypt and then ask the on-location person what was going on where they were.
“Well Kay, it’s empty, there is nobody here!”
Kay would then cackle manically, hahah so funny, there are no tourists at all!
Kay Burley should be prosecuted for crimes against humanity.
Lots of fuss in the top article above about the conditions in which ‘dangerous’ samples are being kept, and how they are being handled by inexperienced numpties.
So how many of these numpties have themselves tested positive, fallen ill, or sadlidied as a result of working in this awful, dangerous, perilous, lethal, highly contagious environment? I think we should be told.
Very few at all I would imagine have succumbed to the symptomless pox. However, I am genuinely concerned about all the genuine nasties that these poor people might be breathing in. There’s a reason that we have v clever noses hair filters and I really wouldn’t want to breathe in the contents of someone else’s. Bit like snacking on a strangers hoover filter.
I’d put money on it being absolutely none.
When we visited Nigeria a few years ago we were taken aback to see how the whole country seems to run on a system of road-blocks. Some were just about local disputes and anyone not local was waved through, others were more intimidating with gun toting military, para military or police officials, these seemed to be a trial of importance and status. I remember being astonished when at one road-block our daughter-in-law got out of the car and bawled out 2 intimidating machine gun toting paramilitaries, the boss man in the hut decided she could be trouble and gave the men the nod and they backed off , waved us through and wished us a good day. A system based on trials of strength and will and intimidation, how different to the UK we thought! Then this virus hoo-haa started and the UK police seem to have been to the Nigerian school of policing. There was a report yesterday of the Police threatening someone with a £10,000 fine unless he turned off his Christmas lights. As I understand it the Police cannot fine you, only a court can do that, what they are doing is issuing you with a fixed… Read more »
What was wring with his lights?
They were quite dramatic and he had put them up to raise money for mental health charities, they were so good they attracted a crowd which the police deemed to be against virus regs and so they threatened him with a FPN unless he turned them off.
I doubt if ‘inciting others to break Covid regs’ is either a civil or criminal offence.
Piers Corbyn got off his FPNs and – whatever our views on the ethics/legalities – he must have been the most flagrant breacher going!
I’m no expert either but I think it’s still criminal not civil dispute. (That’s not to say that the law isn’t being used in ways it wasn’t intended to be and that it’s all bs anyway without parliamentary scrutiny). I think you’re taking more about summons vs indictment (or could be thought of as charges heard in Magistrates vs Crown court).
Can still be arrested for either, although from what I’ve heard from the protests a lot of these are utter bs too ie. being arrested for BOP or some silly corona offence but then later conveniently de-arrested so that there’s no paperwork trail. So all’s that’s happened is you’ve been removed and deposited elsewhere aka kidnap.
The bottom line is that no one should be accepting/paying a FPN and should be opting to have their case heard in front of a Magistrate with a solicitor. I doubt that the CPS will EVER opt to prosecute ANY of these. They struggle to even prosecute rapists.
I stand to be corrected but a report I saw was that the public were entering his garden to see the lights so were going against the numbers rules bollox. Presumably if they had congregated individually in the street the police couldn’t use that excuse.
I lived there for three years and back up your observations. I was travelling in a convoy with the US Rangers to meet someone at the local airport, a lot of brand new Toyota Landcruisers – high value items. The area boys armed with baseball bats stopped us and beckoned to pull over to the side of the road. The sergeant next to me leaned back in his seat and showed them his pistol, salutes all round and smiles and we were on or way.Power is a loaded gun.
Local press indicating that Redcar & Cleveland Council is biting at the bit to trial lateral flow testing, but it won’t be on the scale of Liverpool. However if you get a positive lateral flow test you need a highly accurate PCR test to confirm the infection, go figure that one. I wonder why negatives don’t need testing with PCR as well, would be a real shame for the madness to stop!
So many great choices:
Safe vaxxer
Vaccine aware
Vaccine cautious
Select vaxxer
Moderate vaxxer
Conservative vaxxer
Consent-only vaxxer
Can we STOP this derogatory “anti-vaxxer” lumping together of anyone who isn’t drooling and panting with excitement about being injected with a barely-tested potentially ineffective, clearly highly allergenic solution that has been completely mis-sold as a “vaccine” (since it does not guarantee immunity). It is offensive both to all who fall into the above categories AND the genuine anti-vaxxers who are being horrifically smeared by MSM and government.
Please!
It’s like calling all those with genuine, well-researched theories as to what the hell has GONE WRONG in the world “conspiracy theorists”.
I highly recommend this essay by the extraordinary Charles Eisenstein. Long but worth absorbing everything word… we ignore his warnings at our peril! He also explains how many of us have found ourselves in a strange and unfamiliar political lane because those we thought we identified with have turned into brainwashed zombies…
https://charleseisenstein.org/essays/from-qanons-dark-mirror-hope/
He says:
“The crisis in sense, meaning and identity doesn’t just push people into cults and conspiracy theories, it also makes mainstream belief systems more cult-like.”
Read it. It’s brilliant!
They can call me what they want. Genuinely don’t mind.
And that’s fine and dandy – some of us don’t feel the same. Each to his own
Read it.
The crisis is not one of ‘sense, meaning and identity’, but a financial and economic crisis, which has produced gradually declining living standards in the West since 2000 to 2008, and which is about to tip over into collapse, which is why we are seeing this anticipatory power grab, which will fail in its attempt to control those huge economic forces.
‘Proponent of evidence-based medicine and informed consent’ does it for me.
Of course that means I’m not enthused by lots of medical interventions which don’t have an adequate evidence base, of which quite a few just happen to be vaccines…
But you could add many others such as statins, anti-depressants, any opioids, checkpoint inhibitors for cancer treatment etc etc.
For those who wanted it earlier on in the week here is the video of the momentous quote from CMO Chris Whitty on the 21st July 2020:
“If you look at the R, and the behaviours, quite a lot of the change that led to the R going below one occurred well before, or to some extent before, the 23rd, when the full lockdown started.”
Here is a link to a video I had made for me by parliamentlivetv of the relevant section of the committee hearing:
https://1drv.ms/v/s!Agv7JEO8MngCiSmT-rY5ChSI9LV-
It’s 23 MB so too big too e-mail.
You can download it yourself on their website – set the start time at 10:58:00 and end time as 11:01 – their instructions are easy to follow.
‘lockdownistas’…..you’ve coined a useful new word there!
In terms of the latest diatribe from Vallance, can’t these loons simply be dismissed for unprofessional conduct?
They are “Advisors” to the government, paid by us.
They should not have a platform at all to voice their own beliefs.
I refute their guidance like I refute their made up weekly recommended units of alcohol.
As Thatcher said advisors advise, ministers decide though of course for that you actually need a leader who can make a decision. The fact that members of Sage are constantly given star status in the press and actively brief against Government should be a fast track out of a job, unless it is all part of the dark arts.
Sir Patrick Vaccine-Shares has his dividends to think of
It is all BARBARIC! The elderly physically isolated, with no face of a loved one to see and no arms around them… BARBARIC! Children driven to daily tears as they are made to freeze in icy cold classrooms… BARBARIC! Perfectly healthy students locked up for 14 days in substandard accommodation without decent food… BARBARIC! Women forced to face devastating miscarriages, bleeding and in excruciating pain, ALONE in hospital without a partner by their side… BARBARIC! People hospitalised with fatally severe cases of COPD and pneumonia forced to DIE ALONE… BARBARIC! Families unable to say a final goodbye to their loved ones who are dying alone in hospital… BARBARIC! Stroke sufferers dying alone at home because no one was there to call for help… BARBARIC! Vulnerable people (elderly, low-level NHS staff, care home workers) bullied and cajoled into being vaccinated with an under-tested vaccine against a virus they would have caught by now if they were ever going to get it, at risk of allergic reaction and other complications, and without any recourse if they are harmed by it… BARBARIC! Children locked up with abusive carers because they’ve fallen off the radar and social services are virtually nonexistent… BARBARIC Victims of… Read more »
Yarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!
I am going out to kill kittens!
Bastards!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pretty much exactly how I feel. And I think until we rise up in numbers the barbarism will get worse. You said it: we’re at war. Who with? Those who accept this and do not feel that what is being done to us is barbaric.
Absolutely right. I spent Tuesday night on FaceTime with my father who had suddenly lost his wife of nearly 60 years while she was in a hospice for respite care (not my mother -he was a bad lad!). It broke my heart to sit 200 miles away and see a 90 year old man crying. He is having tests for bowel cancer and says he probably won’t have treatment and might never see me again. He will because, as soon as he’s had the vaccine, I shall be down there (he thinks it will protect him and, at his age, that’s what matters!). Meanwhile, he has to get through the funeral and Christmas without me. I am in tier 3, would probably be stopped on the A1, and there’s nowhere open to stay when I get there. As you say, barbaric.
oh man I had to save that. That was awesome.
Delivered a load of covid tests I’d collected from various pharmacies (stored in black bags in plastic bins where they get put by the home testers) earlier on in the week to a “lab”.
The “lab” was part of a building on an industrial estate, rang the bell, shutter door opened onto a dirty warehouse receiving area, unmasked, unPPE’d young woman takes the plastic bags without a word, closes shutter door.
While getting ready to leave 2 more drivers arrive, exactly the same happens, looking in from a distance there was nothing lab like about the place inside or out except the sign with the company’s name on it.
All very strange, like a speakeasy in reverse.
Very very sleezy and shady isn’t it?
Troubling article by Ms Jacobs in The Telegraph today.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/12/10/lockdown-sceptics-risk-total-failure-unless-drastic-change-strategy/
Starts:
Lockdown-sceptics have reached the toughest moment in the war against the Covidarian state. We are losing. We are exhausted. But we are also confused. For some, suspicion towards the problem has morphed into suspicion towards the solutions.
Those of us who just want it all to end, meanwhile, oscillate wildly between desperation to swallow the Christmas fairytale of vaccines liberating us within weeks and – as tighter measures loom – feelings of outraged humbug.
In other words, the opposition has become a hot mess …
Ends:
We also shouldn’t be so quick to dismiss the likes of vaccine passports to enter restaurants. Trading our data in order to access a private service is merely the Facebook business model. At the very least, we should attempt a Sunsteinian cost-benefit analysis of such suggestions. Many lockdown-sceptics who want life to go back to normal will have limited patience for such long-term, left-field thinking. But our defeats to date have been so resounding that it’s time not just for urgent action, but urgent soul-seeking too.
Looks as if Economic Collapse remains our best hope. God help us all.
“Trading our data in order to access a private service is merely the Facebook business model.”
Aye, and I don’t do that Facebook shite either.
Being injected with goop to be allowed to exist as a normal human is not a line I will cross.
It’s a symbolic thing for me: I don’t fear the goop, I fear the society we will create when everyone agrees that their body can be violated because some oily prick politician says so.
I would make one exception to my rule: I would submit to the goop if it was the only thing standing between me and leaving this country forever.
First, however, I’d need to find somewhere worth going to. It would be a bit tragic to run away to Tanzania just to die of typhoid three months later.
You might get the East African Face Eating Virus as well. Much worse than covid.
Comments are not in favour -one such comment “Sherelle – have you just completed your obligatory retraining course in journalism at the Ministry of Truth?”
This is what I have been saying for months now, see my old posts if you do not believe me. WE ARE NOT WINNING in any shape of form. We are like 1945 German Army hoping for a miracle while surrounded on all sides by the Soviets, Americans, British, French..This started as fringe resistance, now we are the enemy of the 99% of the population in in their eyes. Crazy no-mask wearing, anti vaxxer scumbags who want to kill granny, let it rip , believe in this nonsense heard immunity and are now endangering their future in every shape or form. We have no high profile members or speak person, zero. Forget Toby and Delingpole, some 3rd rate celebrities’ from women’s talk shows. Nobody knows who these people are..Well almost nobody. Imagine Prince William saying stop this nonsense with the Lockdowns..The MSM would explode and they would not be able to dismiss the future King of Britain as a crazy crackpot. It will never, ever happen but just imagine.. We are losing every day more and more and all we can do is to have each other back.The war is lost but we fight on like those Japanese soldiers in… Read more »
I do agree. But remember we are against the MSM. Even Donald Trump, supposedly the most powerful man in the world has been bought down by their lies. To use your war analogy we are the resistance. The resistance did not beat the Nazi’s but they never stopped letting them know they were not conquered. That is our job, acts of defiance, underground meetings, leaflet drops. Short of popping a cap into the pig tyrant it’s all we have.
A thought I’ve had: perhaps the reason why there is so little popular pushback against this lunacy is because at the end of the day, it’s still quite easy to ignore restrictions and quietly get on with life. I see so many cars on the road where I am; where are they all going? So many people in town; if they were truly scared, would they be out at all?
Although lockdowns and restrictions have a ruinous impact on society as a whole and their long-term consequences won’t properly manifest for some years, I believe that individuals are fundamentally selfish and don’t care because it doesn’t really affect them on a personal level. They either ignore the rules; don’t have much of a life so nothing much has changed; or the thrill of virtue signalling and being the star of their own sci-fi disaster film is more important to them than their own family or jobs.
Thoughts?
Most people are outwardly a bedwetter but inwardly sceptics?
I know quite a few that are tetering between the two. They nappy themselves because they believe that not to do so means an instant firing squad. They can’t bring themselves to believe that Covvie is not dangerous, because they’ve been told so many lies that truth doesn’t exist for them any more.
Yes I suspect that as well, especially with the masks. People disagree with them but just go along with it for a quiet life and to not break the law, despite either not realising or ignoring the wider impact ignorance and compliance will have on society as a whole.
The day mandatory masking ends, it is all over.
This cannot happen soon enough.
BASTARDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I agree with your main analysis above. As for the masks, like many on this site I hate the sight of the masked masses, and some of them do look miserable and zombie-like. But conversely I often see and hear two or three masked people chatting casually as if there was nothing unusual about it. I hate the normalisation of mask wearing but not everyone wearing it has become a zombie.
Belief in the hoax is much more fragile than we think on here.
People tend to go along to get along, and the truth is that many people stilll think they have a lot to lose by sticking their necks out in a situation where because of isolation one things one is possibly alone in one’s opinion. Many of them do have a lot to lose – still.
I am expecting things to remain quiet until the end of winter, with people remaining in hibernation mode. As things warm up in April and May we could be facing far more civil disturbance, depending on economic developments.
Whatever the timing, as public finances deteriorate and standards of living (the critical factor) fall, more and more people will have less and less to lose.
Ultimately, I believe nothing will hinder public fury.
A special celebrity version of Strictly in February will ensure harmonious docility amonst the sheeple. Don’t worry.
I see a lot of this with young people I know – with their masked selfies and going out and about with their muzzles. Posting about being kind and kindness on one hand then on the other berating people who have different views to them and those who can’t and won’t wear masks as selfish.
Whoever said that this is a pandemic for the social media age is right and it allows people to show off that they’re “doing their bit” on a wider stage through their Facebook, Twitter & Instagram accounts.
Have said this from the start. This is a pandemic for the Blue Peter classes.
Indeed. I know someone who has been showing off all the muzzles she’s been making from her sewing machine & saying that she’s going to give them away as gifts!
Most people don’t go to pubs, most people don’t eat out, go to the theatre, cinema, gym or tattoo parlour.
Only minority use libraries or swimming pools; most people working from home are comfortable with it and most retail can be replaced with online shopping.
True Poppy, I saw no difference between lockdown and tier 2 in terms of movement. More shops were open this time and life was normal for most folks. I think it will be more relevant in summer if this crap is still going on and people want to go abroad. I have heard most people ignore the testing positive and just get on with their lives.
Is it now a shared sort of religion? All the believers take part in meaningless rituals to obtain some safety or protection from death, and see unbelievers as heretics?
Normally just a lurker here. I live on the west coast of the USA (AKA crazy land). Lockdowns on the west coast have been pretty strict, mandatory masks etc… One of the reasons why people go along with it IS because it’s not effecting them. They are privileged to be able to work from home or continue to work at their office, buy food pay rent etc… So really these lock downs are just an inconvenience. Big deal, they can’t eat out, go to a movie or hang out with friends. In their minds it will end in another year or so and things will go back to normal. Now blue collar Steve or single mom Tina have both lost their jobs. They are unable to get unemployment because our system is so broken that people who filed in March still haven’t been paid. They can’t pay their rent, utilities or even food. So now they spend a good part of their day standing in a food bank line. These people will be buried in debt for years after this is over. This is truly the elephant in the room NO ONE wants to talk about, the working poors and… Read more »
all my friends inn california are followers of the new religion . masks etc . so glad you’re not from fellow american lurker
Unfriend them then.
they are not annoying though and otherwise nice ,whereas my 2 best friends[ not there] are very annoying about it will wait to see if they will desert their newfound religion . will try to ge t them to, hasn’t worked so far so for now not speaking much at all. the feeling is mutual am sure
so for now they are ‘ un friended ‘ mutual decision am sure
I agree. Most people are now largely ignoring it or, at least, making their own accommodations, which they justify; ‘It’s only my daughter’s boyfriend’, etc.
Morning all, this rambling piece could go in any direction and as I’m not brain of Britain I might get a few things wrong. I’ve been reflecting partly on the back of the Monday edition of UK Column showing the deeply sad and distressing video of the lady trying to visit her elderly mother in a care home, the lady was wheeled to the window, visibly distressed and confused. The daughter was demanding to be let in to see her mother, of course she was refused, the lady became agitated and in response the care worker lowered the blinds and wheeled her mother away. A disgusting way to treat any human being which brought a tear to my eye, what would I of done? I tell myself would of smashed the door down, but who knows. I’ve also been reflecting on the some of the great data presented by some of you and Ivor Cummings as well as some of the debate and comments. IMO the data is not reliable, it clearly shows a peak in April and then some ripples. On face value the pandemic is over. Just how reliable is the data though, we know the PCR test… Read more »
Well said. And in the words of Vernon Coleman:
DISTRUST THE GOVERNMENT
AVOID MASS MEDIA
FIGHT THE LIES
A great meditation.
Yes, stay strong, and remind people what Normal is like. Turning whole countries into concentration camps is not normal. Deleting faces is not normal. Torturing old people is not normal.
You ARE strong, Stefarm, and you’ll stay that way.
The Solzhenitsyn quote is also apt
‘We know they are lying to us, they know we know they are lying . . . Yet still they lie’.
I’m reminded of that time when 30 year old illegal migrants were claiming to be 16 year old children. We could see how old they were and yet the government, BBC and migrant charities continued to refer to them as children. It became a scandal but the government had a ready response. They put up screens so we could no longer see how old they were. Sorted!
Great post dr stefarm coleman!
Remember, ‘just seeing the picture of Sturgeon and Swinney on the front page hiding behind their masks makes me sick’, is a perfectly normal response. A wisp of brightness is coming from the utter collapse of sturgeon’s regime – yesterday husband murrell even put the boot in – they tiny evil Bute House cabal are living wretched stressed lives on borrowed time.
Sticky Nurgeon is the personification of EVIL in that picture with her little bastard tartan face nappy.
What an absolute fucker “she” is.
💯%
Anyone work in an office and dislike your bedwetter colleagues? There is a solution.
Just download the T&T app, state you’ve got symptoms and take your phone into work. They get pinged and told to work from home, everyone is happy.
Apparently, we are the ones that have to do ‘soul-searching’, not the perpetrators
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/12/10/lockdown-sceptics-risk-total-failure-unless-drastic-change-strategy/
I search my soul daily and find inexhaustible supplies of defiance.
LOL and there was me leading a full and healthy life, seeing people, going where I want when I want. Not talking up mandatory vaccinations or gulags. Being ethical.
Little did I know I’ve been doing it wrong!
I don’t get this. It seems to be advocating total surrender. If you argue for vaccine passports to enter restaurants and shops that’s effectively lockdown for the unvaccinated. If you agree to this you going along with the pro-lockdown argument.
I’ve seen a couple of ‘leisure industry’ experts giving interviews where they take a totally different line, they were of the opinion that pubs/restaurants will not require proof as it’s akin to them cutting their own throats after the year from hell.
Plus there are already pdf files circulating of the vaccination cards, people will simply print them on card,fill in some numbers and dates and slip them in their purse or wallet. There is no central database (or excel spreadsheet LOL) big enough to handle the level of inquiry needed.
Give the Government 3 weeks to vaccinate a large enough number of coffin dodgers and they’ll be clamouring to return to normal. They want a way out and now they’ve got it, they can now blame scientists and their vaccine if things don’t go their way.
I hope you are right it is quite convincing. Although I suspect they may still drag it all out a few months longer. Can’t be too careful!
The battle won’t be won though as the article hints it could be masks on and social distancing every winter from now on to combat COVID-20, wombat flu or whatever. Again I don’t think surrendering the point on vaccine passports really helps to counter the arguments that will be made for this.
Where can we get a fake vaxx card, please post a link. Excel can only handle 16k file size as we know
To start this missive I’ve not seen any news from Tuesday to this morning and as I’m taking a day off today (driving 1200 miles in 3 days after 1600 last week is taking it’s toll on my old bones) I’m catching up. Had a good catch up with Mrs Awkward and son over a late supper yesterday (may post about here adventure to Telford later, she’s getting really radical) but the conversation got round to that first vaccine “volunteer”. Wife and son had a few issues with the whole thing which were (if I remember them all): if the vials were stored at minus 70 how were they being handled without gloves? why was there no signs of condensation on the vials? why were some vials glass and some cheap squeeze plastic? why did the shot cut away before they showed the actual injection taking place fully but only showed the stab into the arm and initial little squeeze of the needle? Never a full injection. Why was she reported a s going to hospital for a “check-up” and who just happened to be first in line then get reported as being an in-patient who returned to the ward?… Read more »
Very, very good questions.
She was supposed to be turning 91 next week.
An investigation would start with Margaret Keenan’s birth certificate.
Good questions, it’s all a con, a swizz, a mcguffin, taking the piss. It’s laughable.
Do we really think if there was a man killing virus on the loose the media would be taking puctures. Crap.
Reminded me of somebody winning the lottery or being the millionth customer in Bejam.
The vaccine is frozen and transported at -70, it is then defrosted and can be stored in a normal drugs fridge for up to 5 days. However, plastic bottles are used for saline and sterile water for injection, all liquid drugs for injection are in glass vials.
There was an error on the part of the nurse, which suggests the video was not of the actual injection.
At no point did she verify the patient’s name and date of birth to verify identity. If the patient was an inpatient then that would be checked against a wristband.
At no point was the patient asked if she had any allergies
At no point was the patient’s medical history mentioned.
Finally there was no prescription card visible, which would be required to be signed by the nurse and the second checker, particularly if the patient was an inpatient. As far as I can remember the same protocol applies to outpatients.
The Pfizer vaccine is stored and transported at minus 70° but you couldn’t administer it at that. It’s ‘warmed’ to 2°-5°C first. It will lose stability if kept at this temperature for a long time, hence administration protocol dictates the acceptable number of times the fridge can be opened.
Foreign nurses and surnames – no idea what point you’re making.
The point is the name with it’s overtones and connotations.
Why not more common names in use in the UK line Julia Smith?
If it is all a put up job as part of the agenda these connotation and symbolism it represents is very important as it gives clues to those in the know nod nod wink wink.
Sorry AG, I’ve been putting words into your mouth! Apologies.
I think AG maybe was referencing the 2 ‘nurses’ who cared for Boris when he was hospitalised. They were non UK and disappeared from view after he was discharged.
Thanks for the info, learned something new today.
The warmed and diluted vials should be kept between 2 and 25 degrees C and must be discarded after six hours (page 4 of the guidance for healthcare professionals).
Maybe it was staged for the cameras, but it doesn’t need extraordinary explanation. Maybe the actual vaccine already administered according to the usual protocols prior to the filmed event… This is pretty common practice worked out by the PR people and media companies. Lots of us have ‘re-enacted’ things specifically for the media. You know those massive fund raising cheques people are pictured with? They’re not real cheques.
Besides, would you want to do it in real time with the possibility of an anaphylaxis? Course not.
Like those 2 nurses on Tuesday who needed the epipen to recover when they went into shock after eating jabbed?
The few times I’ve had to film medical procedures, we’ve mostly done it in real time and followed the action. However, other stuff around it, particularly taking patient details and certain protocols that need to be followed, are frequently staged, so as to communicate “competence”.
Who the hell knows what was in the vial though?
Margaret Keenan = Keen Nan
Further to my post below about the legal side of this I have just seen a twitter trail about a group of people who were fined for an illegal gathering during the first lock-down.
https://twitter.com/kirkkorner/status/1336771217416736771
They did not pay the FPN and so were fined by a magistrate under the Single Justice Procedure. From the paperwork it looks like they could have requested a full court hearing, although every time you elect to go one step further you risk a bigger fine. It is no wonder that faced with that sort of legal complexity and with no legal aid available, most people take the easy option of accepting the fixed penalty notice.
This has been the first time in my lifetime that I ever recall seeing Public Health measures being imposed by legal diktact, to my mind it is unprecedented, unwarranted and goes against every aspect of living living in the so called ‘Mother of the Free’ and yet most people seemed to have accepted these legal controls without a second thought!
If they had the party and broke the rules they should stand up and tell them to get tae fuck they won’t be paying any fine and they won’t be moving. If they want to take them to jail they’ll have to carry them. When they get there refuse to move, to eat to do anything. Piss and shit right where they are standing. Do not pay any fines and fight back. We have no choice any more
Not me, I’m taking mine to court
They will rue the day they ever heard my name
Hi, Steve. The enforcement of vaccines is not new. Most of the English speaking world, Japan and most of Europe had enforcement of the smallpox vaccine in the 19th century. Fines and imprisonment were common. What changed attitudes very slowly (over 40 years!) was the smallpox pandemic of 1872 which had a huge death rate even among populations where up to 95% had been vaccinated. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if we are faced with the same measures in the near future – Big Pharma and its lackeys in the press will see to that.