Government Confirms No Coercion For Vaccine
The debate in Parliament triggered by the petition to prevent any restrictions on those who refuse a COVID-19 vaccination, which was signed by over 300,000 people and which we encouraged Lockdown Sceptics readers to write to their MP about, was held on Monday.
Government Minister Nadhim Zahawi supported the petition and the question was agreed by the MPs present. Steve Baker led the argument in support.
Some people argue that property rights should be so strong that property owners should be allowed to serve whoever they wish, but that is not the approach we take in an enlightened and modern civilised society. I am afraid the argument touches on some very difficult issues. For example, we do not allow people to say that they will not have same-sex couples in their bed and breakfast. We will not allow discrimination against the range of protected characteristics.
I can see that Ministers might face a temptation to say, “Let’s allow the acceleration of the roll-out of the vaccine by turning a blind eye to property owners insisting on people being vaccinated before staying in their bed and breakfast, or whatever it might be.” I can see that some Ministers might argue, on the basis of property rights, that shop owners, hotel owners and so on ought to have the choice – I understand the argument, because I am a classical liberal and I think about property rights—but I have to say to the Minister, who I am sure understands the argument, that we cross a Rubicon if we say that it is possible to discriminate against people on the basis of their health status. That would be a very sad and wrong basis on which to go forward as a country, even though I can understand that in the face of this disease, with all that that implies, there is pressure on Ministers, officials, members of the public and businesses – we all know what the costs are. It would be very easy to make an ethical mistake, which we could regret for a very long time.
For those two reasons – because it is not an effective thing to do, and because it is morally wrong to discriminate against people on the basis of their choice not to take a vaccine – I will stand with the petitioners in asking the Government to prevent any restrictions being placed on people who refuse to have any potential COVID-19 vaccine.
Nadhim Zahawi was clear in the debate that the Government opposed coercion and vaccine passports. This followed an initial mis-step last month when he suggested that vaccine passports might be in the pipeline. He told MPs:
Mandating vaccinations is discriminatory and completely wrong, and, like [Steve Baker MP] and others, I urge businesses listening to this debate to not even think about that. I will explain in further detail why that is the wrong thing to do. I put on record my thanks to Professor Karol Sikora, who has many hundreds of thousands of followers, who quoted me and said I eloquently dealt with the issue. We have absolutely no plans for vaccine passporting.
Secondly, cards that were issued after people got their first COVID-19 vaccination have been mentioned on social media. Among other details, they contain the date of their second vaccination. That record does not constitute a so-called vaccine passport. It does mean anyone is immune. As we know, the vaccine is given as two injections, 21 days apart. The second dose is the booster dose. I am sure hon. Members will forgive me for repeating the message that patients must return as instructed for their second dose. Without the second dose, the vaccine will not be effective. That is a really important message, and I am grateful to all hon. Members who are repeating that to their constituents.
Thirdly, on completion of both vaccinations, patients will be issued with a vaccine record card, much as they are for other vaccination programmes, so there is nothing different in the way we are dealing with this vaccine. Again, that does not constitute a so-called vaccine passport; nor can it be used as a form of identification. That would be absolutely wrong. Colleagues will appreciate that the careful and accurate recording of vaccination status is an important part of a public health effort. It supports patient safety during probably the largest and most challenging vaccination programme in British history.
Elliot Coburn MP, who moved the motion, concluded the debate:
My hon. Friend [Steve Baker] put the case for the petitioners very well indeed. We do not want, and will not see, as the Minister has confirmed, restrictions put in place, certainly not mandated by the UK Government – or indeed the Scottish Government, as [Patricia Gibson] has confirmed. I hope that businesses and other organisations are watching and hearing that message. To repeat what we have all said, I urge everyone to get the vaccine when their time comes. They should ask questions if they have concerns, and should listen to the people who have the knowledge. Let us beat this thing and get back to normal.
All those LS readers who signed the petition and wrote to their MP, take a bow.
Stop Press: Andrew J. Green in Conservative Woman has outlined his concerns about the rushed Pfizer vaccine, drawing on the work of Dr Mike Yeadon and Dr Wolfgang Wodarg among others. While to my mind a safe and effective vaccine would be welcome as a way to bring this self-inflicted disaster to a close (despite the dangerous precedent it sets for future similar outbreaks), important questions remain about the vaccines currently being approved and rolled out in double time. Andrew summarises them well:
1. Adverse effects from the injection which the trials identified as “very common” were pain at injection site (more than 80% of participants); fatigue (more than 60%); headache (more than 50%), joint pain (more than 20%), muscle pain (more than 30%); chills (more than 30%); fever (more than 10%). These “were usually mild or moderate in intensity and resolved within a few days”. Based on looking at many vaccine SPC documents, these percentages of adverse effects are alarmingly high. If “moderate” in intensity, most of them would require time off work for potentially several days. None of them can honestly be dismissed as minor symptoms.
2. No drug interaction studies have been undertaken (although, actually, this is the norm with almost all pharmaceutical drugs). But with a traditional, viral-based vaccine, past experience will probably give researchers an idea of possible interactions whereas, in this case, we have absolutely no idea of even what type of drugs might interact unfavourably.
3. No animal reproductive or development toxicity tests been carried out, so we have no clue as to potential problems with reproduction or foetal development.
4. Safety of the vaccine during pregnancy has not been determined, which is why Section 4.6 states: “For women of childbearing age, pregnancy should be excluded before vaccination. In addition, women of childbearing age should be advised to avoid pregnancy for at least two months after their second dose.”
5. It is not known whether the vaccine is excreted in human milk, which is why Section 4.6 also states that it “should not be used during breast-feeding”.
6. Section 4.6 also states, under the heading “Fertility”, that “It is unknown whether COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine BNT162b2 has an impact on fertility.”
Worth reading in full.
The Pfizer Vaccine’s Side Effects
Today we’re publishing another piece by Neville Hodgkinson, the former medical and science correspondent for the Daily Mail and Sunday Times, this time about the side effects of the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine. It starts with a fairly alarming description by a care home nurse of the side effects she experienced after getting the jab – aches and paint, fever, malaise, depression – and goes on to discuss the findings of Professor Eric Caumes, the French infectious disease specialist (15.8% of 18 to 55 year-olds had a fever of 38 degrees or higher within seven days, 45% had to take medication for fever or pain, 55% had headaches and 62% were tired). Hodgkinson continues:
Contrary to what NHS propaganda would have us believe, in no way has the jab been shown to be “life-saving”. In fact, as the business magazine Forbes reported last September, current trials seem designed by the manufacturers “to prove their vaccines work, even if the measured effects are minimal”. None has been shown to offer anything like full protection.
Claims of a “95% success rate” refer to the fact that far fewer patients in the vaccinated group – just eight, out of 21,720 – went on to test positive for Covid, compared with 162 out of 21,728 given a placebo injection, a simple saline solution. This outcome says nothing about the vaccine’s ability to save lives, nor to prevent infection.
Even the apparent success in reducing COVID-19 diagnoses may be illusory. The investigators relied on trial participants themselves to report symptoms that they thought might be caused by the disease, and that then led on to their being tested for the virus. Since side-effects were so common among the vaccinees, it would be obvious to many that they had received the jab itself, making them less likely to go for a Covid test than those in the placebo group.
And since the testing regime used is in any case notoriously unreliable as a diagnostic tool, throwing up many false positives, this difference could account for at least some of the “95% success rate” claimed.
Hodgkinson isn’t an anti-vaxxer and, like us at Lockdown Sceptics, he’s hoping the vaccines will work well enough to end this catastrophic period in human history. But as he says, such optimism shouldn’t blind us to the facts.
Worth reading in full.
The Nonsense of “Cases”
With the tier changes for England being agreed yesterday and set to be announced today (with the exception of London and some nearby areas, which have already been placed in Tier 3), I decided to look up how my area was faring. I live in Warwick District, which was right at the bottom of the Tier 3 metrics on December 2nd, so I looked up on the ZOE app how we were doing now, and was mightily encouraged (the ZOE app estimates are based on reported symptoms as well as PCR testing so avoid some of the pitfalls of false positives).
Only 429 symptomatic cases in the whole district (population ~142,500), clear downward trajectory, looking good. Then I spotted the Telegraph had a postcode tool to find out how your area is faring on the Government’s metrics. This is what came out for Warwick.
Blimey. Cases up nearly 82%. I went to the graph on the Government dashboard.
Sure enough, a totally different shape to the ZOE data in recent weeks. That’s the wonder of PCR and of not controlling for test numbers (notice the Telegraph tool shows the positivity rate headed down). Yet we’re told “case” numbers are a major part of the equation for tiers and all the scientific advisers, politicians and pundits go on about them like they’re telling you something meaningful about the epidemic. Ludicrous.
How’s London doing today? According to ZOE, symptomatic infections in the 20s, 40s and 50s age brackets, which were previously rising, stayed flat for a second day (though there was an increase in the under 20s). Still no sign of that out-of-control epidemic that might warrant laying waste to the hospitality trade.
Spotlight on Germany
After an easy ride in the spring with no excess deaths at all (and widely praised for its handling of the crisis), Covid finally arrived with full force in Germany in November. The Swiss Doctor takes a look at why.
Germany was only slightly affected by the first corona wave in spring and did not register any [excess] annual mortality until November. In fact, a hardly noticed heat wave in August claimed as many human lives as the first corona wave.
Why did Germany, in contrast to most of its neighbouring countries, largely escape the spring wave? The new coronavirus is likely to have arrived in Germany a little later and the first measures were taken a little earlier. In addition, the first chains of infection are likely to have been interrupted a little more quickly and the nursing homes were protected a little better than elsewhere.
Until the summer, Germany had a record low antibody seroprevalence of less than 2% (with the exception of a few local hotspots such as Gangelt). However, the risk of a second and stronger wave of infections from autumn was very high. This increase could neither be prevented by the ineffective masks nor by a “partial lockdown” in November.
Incredibly, Germany, which is now in a strict lockdown until at least mid-January, is still on track for below average mortality in 2020, though the current Covid wave will likely break early next year and cause a spike in 2021 unless vaccination can attenuate it. What the country urgently needs, says the Swiss Doctor, is a protocol for life-saving early treatment.
A concept for outpatient prophylaxis and early treatment of risk groups with which hospitalizations and deaths can be reduced by up to 80% according to international studies does not yet exist in Germany. Targeted protection of risk groups is also rarely attempted – with a few notable exceptions such as the city of Tübingen (more on this).
Worth reading in full.
Stop Press: The Swiss Doctor also has a short piece comparing the Great Barrington Declaration (GBD) with the John Snow Memorandum (JSM). The writer has no kind words for the JSM:
The JSM named three supposed models: Japan, Vietnam and New Zealand. But the JSM failed to mention that all of these had implemented early border controls, two are islands, and two never did any mass PCR testing. They could thus not be models for Western nations.
This is why the JSM had to fail: it proposed ineffective measures and neglected the protection of high-risk groups.
However, he agrees with the JSM’s criticism of the GBD that “focused protection” is nearly impossible in high-incidence environments. The real answer, he argues, is proper, evidence-based treatment.
What both the GBD and the JSM failed to mention is the critical importance of prophylaxis and early treatment for the protection of high-risk groups. By now, dozens of studies have shown that early treatment can reduce hospitalizations and deaths even in nursing homes by up to 90%.
Absent early border controls – which among Western countries only Norway and Finland plus a few islands have been able to implement – and highly disruptive measures like total lockdowns, early and prophylactic treatment of high-risk groups is really the only effective measure available to date.
Unfortunately, it is also the one measure most resisted by Western health authorities.
To be fair to the GBD, it’s hard to know how successful focused protection could be as no one has troubled themselves to properly attempt it. But the lack of official support for proven effective treatments is indeed a travesty and a tragedy that persists even now.
When is a Covid Death Not a Covid Death?
Following on from Professor David Livermore’s incisive piece yesterday asking how much inflation there is in Covid death statistics, a reader has sent us a Freedom of Information response he received from NISRA, the Northern Ireland statistics agency.
Among other things it tells us that in NI Covid deaths registered as “due to” and not just “with” Covid make up 62% of the total (807/1,301), whereas in England and Wales (E&W) up to August 31st that same figure is 92.1% (48,168/52,327, see ONS here). 62% vs 92.1% is a huge difference in what are supposed to be the same thing (proportion of deaths with Covid that are due to Covid) and it requires an explanation.
Guy de la Bédoyère estimated that around 35-40% of the E&W ‘Covid deaths’ are really deaths that would have occurred anyhow, making the 62% more plausible than the 92.1%, though still a little high. Yesterday Prof Livermore cited a Swedish review of cases which reduced 122 death certificates recording Covid as ‘cause’ of death to 15% of the number (18 or 19 deaths).
Are doctors being encouraged to put Covid as the direct cause of death more often than might necessarily be warranted? That’s one possible consequence of the way the following guidance from the BMA might be applied:
In those cases where the doctor is confident on medical grounds that a particular cause of death is likely then that should be entered on the MCCD. COVID-19 is an acceptable direct or underlying cause of death for the purposes of completing the MCCD, even without the results of a positive test, and it is important that likely COVID-19 deaths are reported as such via the registrar.
This requires deeper investigation.
Stop Press: Watch Jamie Jenkins, former head of health analysis at the ONS, criticising the data handling throughout the pandemic with Mike Graham on talkRADIO.
Stop Press 2: Ontario in Canada is even counting suicide victims as COVID-19 fatalities, reports True North.
Santa Covid Ad Pulled
Good news. The atrocious NHS advert we reported on last week and encouraged readers to complain about that showed Father Christmas catching Covid and being given oxygen before being nursed back to health has been pulled. A number of readers who took our advice to complain to the Advertising Standards Authority have sent us the response they received yesterday afternoon.
Thank you for contacting the Advertising Standards Authority (ASA) with your concerns about the recent video for the Association of NHS Charities t/a NHS Charities Together, which featured a ‘Santa’ character as a patient in hospital.
We’ve received a number of complaints about this video from individuals who were similarly concerned that it was inappropriate and insensitive in the current climate and potentially harmful to children. We noted that many complainants may have seen press articles about the video and believed that it had appeared as an ad on television. However, immediately after receiving the complaints we contacted the advertisers, who confirmed that it had not appeared on television or in any paid-for space, but instead had only appeared on the charity’s own website and social media pages. Since being made aware of the complaints, the charity has also confirmed that they have now removed the video in question from all platforms, including their own website and YouTube.
Tom Cruise: Action Man or Chin-Wobbler?
Tom Cruise doesn’t like it when people get too close. The Telegraph has more.
Tom Cruise yelled at crew members on the set of Mission: Impossible 7 after he saw them breaking coronavirus rules, according to a report.
The Hollywood star spotted staff standing within two metres of each other on set and launched into a rant, according to the Sun.
He shouted: “If I see you doing it again, you’re f—ing gone.”
A source close to the production told Reuters the tape was authentic. Cruise’s representative declined to comment.
Cruise shouted at the crew:
They’re back there in Hollywood making movies right now because of us. We are creating thousands of jobs, you motherf—ers. I’m on the phone with every f—ing studio at night, insurance companies, producers, and they’re looking at us and using us to make their movies. That’s it. No apologies. You can tell it to the people that are losing their f—ing homes because our industry is shut down. It’s not going to put food on their table or pay for their college education. That’s what I sleep with every night – the future of this f—ing industry. Do you understand what I want? Do you understand the responsibility that you have? So I’m sorry, I am beyond your apologies. I have told you, and now I want it, and if you don’t do it, you’re out. We are not shutting this f—ing movie down! Is it understood? If I see it again, you’re f—ing gone.
A deserved winner of this week’s chin-wobbling gong.
Hypocrite of the Week
Lockdown fanatic Tobias Ellwood MP attended a “Christmas dinner” for 27 people at a private members club on Tuesday night, but has denied breaking any rules. Julia Hartley-Brewer cheekily asks if he’s the same Tobias Ellwood who five days earlier appeared on her show to say we should cancel Christmas because the pandemic is “a dangerous and enduring emergency”.
Indeed, the very same.
In an increasingly crowded field, Tobias Ellwood pips the rest to win Hypocrite of the Week.
Round-up
- “If only the Government’s new-found respect for personal choice could be expected to last beyond Christmas” – Patrick O’Flynn in the Telegraph is not hopeful that Boris’s flash of liberal spirit will not shortly be smothered by the public health establishment to which he has been largely captive since March
- “Top scientific advisers rake in £400k” – Chris Whitty and Patrick Vallance are on up to £200,000 salaries, earning a fortune during the pandemic and appearing on the list of best-paid civil servants for the first time, reports the Mail
- “Jerry Bengtson Wears Face Mask During Football Match To Protect His Family” – First footballer to don an oxygen-obstructing muzzle during a match, making him a close runner-up for chin-wobbler of the week
- “Coordinated Repression of Early Treatment of COVID-19 Explained” – Covexit article on the “Trusted News Initiative”, an organisation in which “major news and global tech organisations” work together “to stop the spread of disinformation where it poses risk of real-world harm”. TNI consists of: AP, AFP, BBC, CBC/Radio-Canada, European Broadcasting Union (EBU), Facebook, Financial Times, First Draft, Google/YouTube, The Hindu, Microsoft, Reuters, Reuters Institute for the Study of Journalism, Twitter, and The Washington Post. Trusted by whom, exactly?
- “After Weeks Of Holier Than Thou Howling, The ‘Thanksgiving Surge’ Is A No Show” – One of the arguments deployed by the Christmas break opponents in the UK is that Thanksgiving in the US and Canada caused a surge of infections. In fact, as Brianna Lyman in the Daily Caller reports, it’s a complete myth
- “Last night before lockdown in London” – Some snaps in Reuters of young people still trying to live their lives despite the Government’s best efforts to stop them. What detestable villains
- “Cuomo, Whitmer, Newsom Are Worse Than Wrong: Coronavirus Update XLIV” – Latest data-rich update from US statistician William M. Briggs pointing out that deaths always increase in the winter and peak in January
- “COVID-19: politicisation, “corruption,” and suppression of science” – Nice sceptical letter to the BMJ by Eshani M King of Evidence Based Research in Immunology and Health
- “Will putting London into Tier 3 cripple the economy?” – Dr John Lee talks to JHB on talkRADIO. Also GP Dr Laurence Gerlis lays into the media and Government scientists over lockdowns
- “Ivermectin letter templates to send to your GP” – An enterprising reader has made available a couple of template letters so you can easily ask your GP to prescribe Ivermectin for you as prophylaxis against Covid. Find them here
Theme Tunes Suggested by Readers
Two today: “Last Train To London” by Electric Light Orchestra and “Inoculated City” by The Clash.
Love in the Time of Covid
We have created some Lockdown Sceptics Forums, including a dating forum called “Love in a Covid Climate” that has attracted a bit of attention. We have a team of moderators in place to remove spam and deal with the trolls, but sometimes it takes a little while so please bear with us. You have to register to use the Forums, but that should just be a one-time thing. Any problems, email the Lockdown Sceptics webmaster Ian Rons here.
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Woke Gobbledegook
We’ve decided to create a permanent slot down here for woke gobbledegook. Today, we bring you the San Francisco school district that is renaming Abraham Lincoln High School as the legendary former president didn’t show “black lives mattered to him”. Apparently, starting a civil war to end slavery wasn’t enough. The Mail has the story.
The president, who is often held up as an American hero for abolishing slavery, is just one of 44 historical figures soon to have their names scratched off schools within the San Francisco Unified School District.
Other names include George Washington, Herbert Hoover and Senator Dianne Feinstein, whose name will be stripped from the Dianne Feinstein Elementary School for allowing the Confederate flag to fly outside City Hall back in 1984 when she was mayor.
Lincoln’s sins relate primarily to his treatment of Native Americans.
“Abraham Lincoln is not seen as much of a hero at all among many American Indian Nations and Native peoples of the United States, as the majority of his policies proved to be detrimental to them,” the committee meeting notes state.
Almost no figure who held office in the past, even the recent past, is deemed pure enough by this inquisition.
All eight presidents whose names currently adorn schools in the district will soon be erased.
The decision to remove many of these is less controversial than Lincoln’s, however.
Herbert Hoover Middle School is to be renamed over the namesake’s role in redlining – the segregation of black families – when he was Secretary of Commerce.
And Roosevelt Middle School faces a rebranding over President Theodore Roosevelt’s opposition to civil rights and black suffrage.
Modern figures haven’t been spared from the cut either.
Feinstein, who was Mayor of San Francisco from 1978 to 1988 and has since served as a Democrat California Senator since 1992, will have her name removed from Dianne Feinstein Elementary because she allowed the Confederate flag to fly in front of San Francisco City Hall.
During her time as mayor, she also oversaw the eviction of the Filipino neighbourhood Manilatown and “allowed police dogs to attack Filipino veteran elders”, the committee ruled.
Welcome to Year Zero.
Stop Press: Premier League footballers have been asked if they want to stop taking the knee by the PFA as the backlash in the stands to woke virtue signalling mounts, the Mail reports.
Stop Press 2: Liz Truss is due to give a speech at the Centre For Policy studies today in which she will hit out at identity politics and unconscious bias training. The Telegraph‘s Lucy Fisher has more. Go Liz!
“Mask Exempt” Lanyards
We’ve created a one-stop shop down here for people who want to buy (or make) a “Mask Exempt” lanyard/card. You can print out and laminate a fairly standard one for free here and it has the advantage of not explicitly claiming you have a disability. But if you have no qualms about that (or you are disabled), you can buy a lanyard from Amazon saying you do have a disability/medical exemption here (takes a while to arrive). The Government has instructions on how to download an official “Mask Exempt” notice to put on your phone here. You can get a “Hidden Disability” tag from ebay here and an “exempt” card with lanyard for just £1.99 from Etsy here. And, finally, if you feel obliged to wear a mask but want to signal your disapproval of having to do so, you can get a “sexy world” mask with the Swedish flag on it here.
Don’t forget to sign the petition on the UK Government’s petitions website calling for an end to mandatory face masks in shops here.
A reader has started a website that contains some useful guidance about how you can claim legal exemption.
If you’re a shop owner and you want to let your customers know you will not be insisting on face masks or asking them what their reasons for exemption are, you can download a friendly sign to stick in your window here.
And here’s an excellent piece about the ineffectiveness of masks by a Roger W. Koops, who has a doctorate in organic chemistry. See also the Swiss Doctor’s thorough review of the scientific evidence here.
Stop Press: A new study has found that wearing a used mask could be more dangerous than not wearing one at all. From the New York Post:
A new three-layer surgical mask is 65% efficient in filtering particles in the air – but when used, that number drops to 25%, according to the study published Tuesday in the Physics of Fluids.
Researchers from the University of Massachusetts Lowell and California Baptist University say that masks slow down airflow, making people more susceptible to breathing in particles – and a dirty face mask can’t effectively filter out the tiniest of droplets.
And of course surgical masks offer no significant protection even when new.
The Great Barrington Declaration
The Great Barrington Declaration, a petition started by Professor Martin Kulldorff, Professor Sunetra Gupta and Professor Jay Bhattacharya calling for a strategy of “Focused Protection” (protect the elderly and the vulnerable and let everyone else get on with life), was launched in October and the lockdown zealots have been doing their best to discredit it ever since. If you googled it a week after launch, the top hits were three smear pieces from the Guardian, including: “Herd immunity letter signed by fake experts including ‘Dr Johnny Bananas’.” (Freddie Sayers at UnHerd warned us about this the day before it appeared.) On the bright side, Google UK has stopped shadow banning it, so the actual Declaration now tops the search results – and Toby’s Spectator piece about the attempt to suppress it is among the top hits – although discussion of it has been censored by Reddit. The reason the zealots hate it, of course, is that it gives the lie to their claim that “the science” only supports their strategy. These three scientists are every bit as eminent – more eminent – than the pro-lockdown fanatics so expect no let up in the attacks. (Wikipedia has also done a smear job.)
You can find it here. Please sign it. Now over three quarters of a million signatures.
Update: The authors of the GDB have expanded the FAQs to deal with some of the arguments and smears that have been made against their proposal. Worth reading in full.
Update 2: Many of the signatories of the Great Barrington Declaration are involved with new UK anti-lockdown campaign Recovery. Find out more and join here.
Update 3: You can watch Sunetra Gupta set out the case for “Focused Protection” here and Jay Bhattacharya make it here.
Update 4: The three GBD authors plus Prof Carl Heneghan of CEBM have launched a new website collateralglobal.org, “a global repository for research into the collateral effects of the COVID-19 lockdown measures”. Follow Collateral Global on Twitter here.
Judicial Reviews Against the Government
There are now so many JRs being brought against the Government and its ministers, we thought we’d include them all in one place down here.
First, there’s the Simon Dolan case. You can see all the latest updates and contribute to that cause here. Alas, he’s now reached the end of the road, with the Supreme Court’s refusal to hear his appeal. Dolan has no regrets. “We forced SAGE to produce its minutes, got the Government to concede it had not lawfully shut schools, and lit the fire on scrutinizing data and information,” he says. “We also believe our findings and evidence, while not considered properly by the judges, will be of use in the inevitable public inquires which will follow and will help history judge the PM, Matt Hancock and their advisers in the light that they deserve.”
Then there’s the Robin Tilbrook case. You can read about that and contribute here.
Then there’s John’s Campaign which is focused specifically on care homes. Find out more about that here.
There’s the GoodLawProject’s Judicial Review of the Government’s award of lucrative PPE contracts to various private companies. You can find out more about that here and contribute to the crowdfunder here.
The Night Time Industries Association has instructed lawyers to JR any further restrictions on restaurants, pubs and bars.
And last but not least there’s the Free Speech Union‘s challenge to Ofcom over its ‘coronavirus guidance’. A High Court judge refused permission for the FSU’s judicial review last week, but the FSU may appeal the decision. Check here for updates.
Samaritans
If you are struggling to cope, please call Samaritans for free on 116 123 (UK and ROI), email jo@samaritans.org or visit the Samaritans website to find details of your nearest branch. Samaritans is available round the clock, every single day of the year, providing a safe place for anyone struggling to cope, whoever they are, however they feel, whatever life has done to them.
Quotation Corner
We know they are lying. They know they are lying, They know that we know they are lying. We know that they know that we know they are lying. And still they continue to lie.
Alexander Solzhenitsyn
It’s easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.
Mark Twain
Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, one by one.
Charles Mackay
They who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.
Benjamin Franklin
To do evil a human being must first of all believe that what he’s doing is good, or else that it’s a well-considered act in conformity with natural law. Fortunately, it is in the nature of the human being to seek a justification for his actions…
Ideology – that is what gives the evildoing its long-sought justification and gives the evildoer the necessary steadfastness and determination.
Alexander Solzhenitsyn
No lesson seems to be so deeply inculcated by the experience of life as that you never should trust experts. If you believe the doctors, nothing is wholesome: if you believe the theologians, nothing is innocent: if you believe the soldiers, nothing is safe. They all require to have their strong wine diluted by a very large admixture of insipid common sense.
Robert Gascoyne-Cecil, 3rd Marquess of Salisbury
Nothing would be more fatal than for the Government of States to get into the hands of experts. Expert knowledge is limited knowledge and the unlimited ignorance of the plain man, who knows where it hurts, is a safer guide than any rigorous direction of a specialist.
Sir Winston Churchill
If it disagrees with experiment, it’s wrong. In that simple statement is the key to science.
Richard Feynman
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
C.S. Lewis
The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants.
Albert Camus
We’ve arranged a global civilization in which most crucial elements profoundly depend on science and technology. We have also arranged things so that almost no one understands science and technology. This is a prescription for disaster. We might get away with it for a while, but sooner or later this combustible mixture of ignorance and power is going to blow up in our faces.
Carl Sagan
Political language – and with variations this is true of all political parties, from Conservatives to Anarchists – is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind.
George Orwell
The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane.
Marcus Aurelius
Necessity is the plea for every restriction of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.
William Pitt the Younger
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Joseph Goebbels (attributed)
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H.L. Mencken
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Tom Cruise, who doesn’t believe that postpartum depression exists, and who doesn’t think doctors should prescribe medication at all….
Nonetheless believes that… Oh, wait, of course he doesn’t. He just needs people to comply with the Governor’s nonsense rules because hollywood stars like himself have thus far been exempted from complete shutdowns.
There were specific warnings that westing masks like that by the untrained was itself dangerous.
Has valves too concentrating his foul shouty miasma in two streams directed at his victims. Bad plan to piss off the crew I would have thought especially when you do your own stunts.
Does he really do his own stunts?
Yes, he really is a stunt.
cunning in his stunts
Based on the first picture here, I think we can call him Tommy Two-Masks: Tom Cruise ‘has another rant on the Mission: Impossible set with five crew members QUITTING’ | Daily Mail Online
defo a homeowner
South Park nailed it
Hormonal issues no doubt with the aging ‘actor’!
In fairness to Cruise, he didn’t claim at any point in his rant that anything to do with lockdowns or masks or social distancing actually makes sense. It’s clear that his concern is 100% about jobs, the economy, people’s livelihoods not just for himself and his own crew but all other film crews too.
I was ready to roll my eyes when I read the headline but when I read the actual content of what I said, I found myself in agreement with him.
Cruise probably knows standing less than 2m apart isn’t dangerous in a medical sense, but he’s acutely aware it’s dangerous in a political sense and is correctly reminding the staff that they could end up giving politicians an excuse to wreck that part of the economy too, for everyone.
You don’t really get more sceptical than me and my old man, but I don’t often come on here any more, because it’s generally the same old sh1t every single day, and mostly drivel at that now.
It’s easy to disparage Cruise; his weird religion and consequent strange beliefs. To be fair, however, Cruise never mentions them; it’s always the interviewers and the commentariat.
I wonder just how many jobs Cruise is and has been responsible for over the years. Probably many thousands. And you don’t get much more bedwetty than the film industry: everything’s run by the insurers. Cruise is doing what he can to keep the show on the road, and not just his show; as he says, the eyes of the entire industry are on them.
We don’t know what his beliefs about c-19 are. Not much, given his choice of mask, I would hazard.
Still, it’s given me an idea for taking my mind off this cr4p for the next few nights. I shall go and watch all the MI films, in order.
Agree on both points. On the former,this website is well past its sell-by date and devoid of any fresh ideas or info. Most sensible people are ignoring the lockdown and have moved on to discussing the dangers of the EXPERIMENTAL vaccine. On the latter, Cruise remains the foremost entertainer of his generation. Sticking to what he’s good at and keeping his views, political, religious or otherwise, to himself. His films always pack out cinemas worldwide and I for one do not begrudge him a penny of his multi-millions.
Bye bye, both. We have duly noted the contrast between your original, inspirational, life-enhancing posts and those of everybody else.
Why are his jobs more important than the thousands of others that Newsome has single-handedly driven out of existence? Because Hollywood is big-money Democrat? Movies are somehow “essential?”
Because it’s all a farce. No business is non-essential. That’s not how the economy works. But while democrat would-be dictators are exercising arbitrary powers to destroy countless lives, there will always be favors for their friends.
‘His’ jobs aren’t ‘more’ important’. All jobs are important. But he’s responsible for those jobs related to his production. It’s his production company that’s responsible. And he was quite clear: the success or otherwise of his production will inform whether Hollywood will go ahead with many other projects during these stupid times.
And I assume that many of the jobs on Cruise’s production are held by British people, as he’s filming here.
That was how I read it – though that ridiculous mask doesn’t encourage his being taken seriously.
“I FEEL THE NEED
THE NEED
FOR A FACE NAPPY!”
errr
or was that that other Holy Wood Short Arse
Tom Cruise with his glow white teeth, who looks like a plastic Ken doll that’s been left too close to the fire
Worth noticing that the abominable Mr. Cruise is wearing what my son and I have labeled a ‘gashole’ mask. We apply that name to the wearers therof as well, who invariably tell you that they wear them to protect others.
Got rather a lot of gasholes, them things. Aren’t those snotrags (still my preferred moniker) rather unhygienic?
So have we got our rights back then? I’ve not seen the news today, been breaking the rules this evening (probably). We had some people round in (what had been) a tier three area, whatever they are, no face coverings or anything. It went on rather late. I’ve given up trying to follow the whole farce. Did any area actually move to a lower tier, or even out of tiers altogether, or have the mutants put the frighteners on the authorities?
To be announced later today as I understand. Probably either on the Today Programme or Jeremy Vines show.
I prefer to use the correct technical descriptor (“filthy face rag”) though “pathogen-pooling device” is also acceptable.
Chiflu is gashole.
In the limited circumstances where I’ve had to wear a mask (e.g. on planes) I use one of those. Though admittedly not one quite as intense-looking as that! But only because you can remove bits from the ‘filter’ and essentially make yourself a hidden hole for easy breathing.
Covid-19 is a religion. They take it on faith, rather than direct experience. (TV & News) They listen to preachers of its gospel (Scientists & Politicians) They wear garments to signal their belief. (Masks) They perform rituals to signal their belief. (Social distancing) The moment of the virus is over- that siren song is gone- now it is about total control. The mask is the symbol of obedience and acceptance of your subservience to your master. Some food for thought on masks: Facemasks and SARS-CoV-2 case fatality rate Effect of mask mandates The mask mandates have increased the risk of dying by 3.4 in Germany and by ~11 in Kansas counties with mask mandates. The explanation for this is probably that virions that are breezed or coughed out in droplets are stopped in the facemask tissue, and after (quick [8]) evaporation of the droplets, pure virions are reinhaled from a very short distance when breathing in. For further reference, I refer to this as the ‘foegen effect’ as I could not find this effect described earlier. By the ‘foegen effect’ the virions are not only spreading to other areas (like the olfactory nerve, causing loss of smell) but also (because… Read more »
Mask mandate also coincided with very unusual summer inflection (up) in fatal C-19 infections in UK.
C’mon… masks work wonderfully!
Excellent! Thank you. MW and AG
All these graphs have upward trajectories – maybe we need the masks after all (sarcasm)
Fantastic gif!
DavidC
As Annie would remind you the cult of Covid also demands Anointing by Sanitizer at every opportunity.
The Holy Gunk does not, of course, kill viruses.It does, however, kill weaker bacteria, leaving the stronger bacteria to multiply with vertiginous rapidity and mutate with even more rapidity.Help yourself to superbugs.
My office proudly exhibits a large bottle Anti Bacterial gunk even though I pointed out that phoney corony is a virus and not a bacteria.
I rarely visit the office.
And the Holy Gunk also causes damage to the skin.
Had a colleague who was whining that the gunk was damaging her skin and nails. To which I replied: “Stop sanitising and use soap and water!”
It’s not rocket science.
I have a technique called faking it, I press the handle on the holy gunk, but then move my shoulder down so it looks like I am pressing the plunger lower then rub my dry hands together. Forgive me father for I have sinned…..
I’ve done that too then rub my hands ostentatiously.
Watch out for the sneaky sanitisers which don’t have a plunger but detect your hand moving underneath and automatically squirt.
That one was my favourite. It made a wheezy sort of sound.
Those handles must be laden with that deadly virus. Best avoided
Maybe the Holy Gunk was killing bacteria that was trying to kill the virus? These people are not medical experts, they are charlatans.
Covid-19 Holy Water.
The COVID-19 Bible also includes that “You must believe in the existence of a new virus, even without evidence of that”!
so this one is also a ritual of the Cult!
The Covid Thought Police.
Wonderful. Germany has just started giving away FFP2/N95 masks for people with underlying health conditions.
At the same time the politicians moan that too many are dying.
And ICUs are overwhelmed due to a lack of beds (cost cutting over the last few years) and staff shortage (cost cutting, stress and stupid rules).
Do they really think we still believe it is to protect and save lives?
Define “we”…
Look let’s cut to the chase here. Thousands of elderly people were murdered by State policies that were implemented as part of the government’s response to the Covid hysteria that those government bodies created. There needs to be full scale investigations launched and wholesale prosecutions. Check country after country and what you see is that the average age of those who died from this virus is around 80 years old. That tells you right away there never has been a pandemic. The vast majority of those elderly were nursing home/care center patients. The figures there are around 55-60% of the total death count- likely higher as the figures have been fudged by counting certain deaths as hospital deaths if they came from nursing homes but died in the hospital. And why so many died from nursing homes in such a short period of time? Because of those policy changes not due to some unique, other-worldly “killer virus.” We would have the same concentrated death ratio from nursing homes nearly every season if the policies put in place this year were implemented permanently. All of this is resulting in what we are now seeing as rather low death counts in country… Read more »
It’d better not be like Hillsborough, with a slap on the wrist for one or two people after thirty years.
Incarceration of the well and vaccines are the plan to avoid even a political slap on the wrist as TY has pointed out. Any amount of collateral damage is justified for that end.
At least the seekers after justice didn’t give up, even after thirty years. We mustn’t either. Innocent blood calls for vengeance.
My uptick thing is counting double again!
Well they’ve declared war on the world this time, not just Liverpool supporters. Let’s see what we can do!
It’s not counting double. It just means you clicked on it at the same time as other people. I just up-ticked Annie and it went from 3 – 6. Magic! MW
It isn’t chance, it’s Annie’s Great Resit and nothing to do with the upticks.
“Lessons have been learned.”
The government treachery, that has been seen all the way through the fake Covid pandemic, is far far worse than what happened at Hillsborough, bad as that was. With the Covid fiasco we are talking about the premeditated and cold blooded murder of around 40,000 old folks in “care” and “nursing” homes. Only apologists for Johnson and his government of cronies would say any differently. Not only murder, but treason as it appears, more than “highly likely” that the UK government has been working throughout to further the aims of an external agenda, which is aimed at impoverishing, weakening and in time eliminating great swathes of the British population. The latest act of criminality, is the unleashing of the hardly tested, liability free Pfizer vaccine on a bewildered and largely uninformed public. This vaccine already has several important caveats viz, it not known whether it reduces infection transmission, it should not be used by pregnant women or those intending to become pregnant, and it may cause permanent female infertility. Now we are told it is not to be administered to people with known allergies. Only time will tell, how many more “side effects” will come to light and how many… Read more »
I’m beginning to give more thought to how much of the nonsense is coming from the old eugenics crowd, last known as Transhumanism* (though this is denied on Wiki).
Transhumanism = Beyond Human with the aid of technology.
There are two strains
1. Positive. Applying technology to improve the human body (DNA altering vaccines?), exoskeletons, brain implants and the like.
Also selective breeding as practised by the nazis who encouraged blond haired blue eyed types to procreate with abandon giving little attention to age or partner status.
The parentless offspring became the property of the state to be raised as good little nazis.
2. Negative. Weeding out of the physically or mentally ‘degenerate’ by selective use of harmful medication or the removal of healthcare altogether. This could be achieved by a cull of the vulnerable elderly either by a novel disease or an untested vaccine.
Closing down the NHS would cause the deaths of numerous people with inherited conditions thus leading to a ‘healthier’ breeding stock.
Surely our leaders are not that evil ?
*not to be confused with Transhumance which is something entirely different.
Wales doesn’t do transhumanism. It does do subhumanism.
We’ve spent several weeks in Wales every year for the ten years or so. We won’t be going again.
It’s an ironical truth that NHS successes (and yes, there have been many in the past) have led to a huge proliferation of elderly and chronically ill people dependent on daily cocktails of drugs, and ‘living’ on and on to become mindless husks.
Most people would say that is better than the alternative. I really am not sure.
One thing is certain: culling all those expensively maintained, frail old people is really saving the government money, And they are being murdered by loneliness, neglect and despair for their own good, to keep them safe. Clever, that. Like Seamus Heaney’s poem about drowning kittens: isn’t it better for them now, the scraggy wee shits?
Mmm… well Annie, I am 72 and still healthy and active. Your post is very thought-provoking but also rather chilling…
There’s life and there’s living.
Healthy and active is great. Alzheimers is pretty crappy from any perspective – and there’s a lot of it about.
I’m nearly 68 and still fit and active. I watched helplessly as my Mum went downhill from her mid 50s. She was overweight, drank too much, ate crap and became increasingly inactive. She quickly developed all the usual ‘middle-age’ ailments and consequently spent her last 20 years on a cocktail of drugs and finally developed vascular dementia. She had no life to speak of from her mid 70s until she eventually keeled over at 88. Frankly it was a relief. I wrote her eulogy and it was healing. Remembering my Mum as the lively, funny woman she had been restored her to me in a sense. I don’t find Annie’s post chilling, Ken, just realistic. The growing fear of death in our society and the inevitable alienation from the realities of our own mortality have reached their culmination in the current hysteria. Now, no death from anything can be tolerated – how many times do people wail ‘people have DIED’ if you dare express the mildest scepticism? This dependence on drugs to delay death at all costs has induced the susceptibility of so many people to be brainwashed and will guarantee queues for the vaccine. (Also I agree with Annie’s… Read more »
That’s great.,I hope we will both be healthy and active at 102. But if you’ve been in the dementia wing of a care home, even a good one, you’ll know that there are fates worse than death.
The possibility of developing Alzheimer’s is the reason I’d refuse vaccines that would render my life a mere existence should I be unlucky enough to succumb to this dreadful illness. I really fear this desire to keep prolong life at all costs if treatment exists for something.
As long as we remember that it is modern medicine that has a achieved that, not the NHS on its own.
Indeed if you look at Scandinavian life expectancy, the NHS performs significantly worse, which isn’t a huge surprise.
Fair point. Life at the moment is pretty awful, but life before modern medicine was generally brutish and short.And if you remember dentistry even50 years ago … well, ok, lockdown took us back to that, but we have known better.
As I’ve said before, people have been brainwashed into watching the brave soldiers of the NHS on TV programmes such as 24 hours in A&E, docs in a helicopter, docs in a boat, paramedics in an ambulance. Same goes for fly on the wall police and border force programmes.
We have been slowly indoctrinated into believing they are super human, are there to save us and they know best and not to question.
It has been an easy transition into standing outside clapping for them and hanging on their every word.
The level of brainwashing is frightening. People twittering on various forums about pre-Covid TV shows and how “scary” everything is (you know, people, interacting, being close and a bit grubby etc) and how could we ever have accepted that as “normal”? I could weep.
These people really do want a permanent ‘new normal’. Maybe we should create a country just for them…anyone can go there who wants to live like that. Sounds like it will be a busy place.
If only Australia was still uninhabited……
Or maybe we can send them to Mars.
Come down any time you like Bart, too late we are inhabited. (I’ve been out bush!) Take you out on the Manly ferry, as I did today, absolutely marvellous. City of Sydney heaving. Lobsters cheap, cheap, as China doesn’t want them any more. Wine aplenty, etc. etc. Slight hiccup at northern end of northern beaches, everyone is hysterical, carrying on about locking us down, (17 cases and Gladys will be clawing her face off). I’m going to wander down the beach and check out the seal that has been swimming in.
I have an Aussie passport too… (once I trapse up to London to lodge it at the High Commission which is going to be a nasty ordeal in Jan). Don’t like the look of what’s happening in Vic mind, although WA is where I lived for 7 odd years and which I will gravitate back to once this charade is over. Will it ever be over?
Will it ever be over?
Not if they can possibly help it.
Australia has been inhabited for a very long time.
Remember, the 77th brigade will be leading the attacks.
Via facebook and twitter, what brave boys and girls.
I stay away from the NHS as much as possible. We’ve an old lady in my Village who knows things and helps with all sorts including child birth. I’ll trust her over some twat who works for the NHS.
My mum trained as a nurse in London during WW2 and was overjoyed to get nationalised but by the time she took early retirement had become entirely disillusioned.
Ask her how many births she has been involved in.
I have only been to see a doctor three times in my adult life (I am 62) and these visits were a waste of time. I want to die of natural causes not ‘the cure’.
I’m like you, rose. I’m 63 and can count on one hand the number of times I’ve been to a GP since childhood. One reason was that my parents didn’t believe in unnecessarily bothering doctors so we were brought up with the philosophy that you only went to a doctor if you were dying …and even then you had to think about it! Yes, we had ailments and accidents but we got over them without professional intervention. My parents were stoic people. The only times that they genuinely needed serious medical help led to death through medical negligence (failure to diagnose) for my father. And, in the case of my mother, negligent hospital treatment led to the last five years of her life being spent bedbound and suffering from hospital acquired morphine-induced dementia. So I don’t have any faith in the medical profession. Strangely, though, an acquaintance of mine goes to his GP every fortnight (I’m not exaggerating) for all sorts of minor issues, always different and nothing that a day or two’s rest wouldn’t resolve. He was encouraged to do this by his mother since childhood. He has no serious ailments. But he is treated like royalty and constantly… Read more »
Absolutely agree with this. I’m a bit younger but have also hardly ever seen my GP and see doctors as something to be avoided. I’ve also rejected any if the so called health screening tests and particularly resent the ones where you are automatically opted in. The an appointment has been made for you letter makes me seethe. I’m sure if I’d agreed to any of these tests something. would have been flagged up leading to more tests and unnecessary treatment for something that wouldn’t have ever been a problem.
I have friends who have every test going and they seem to relish being perpetual patients.
Don’t volunteer for any medical product tests no matter how much money you are offered. I see posters everywhere in the metro and on the buses from pharmaceutical companies showing smiling actors virtue signalling that they have helped medical science to develop new life-saving drugs. Bullshit!
I don’t want to die of natural causes, I’d rather pick my time and drift off. But to live naturally until that point
Or make all those TikTok videos….
I can hear Mutant Matt proposing the Covid final solution, already.
I propose a final solution for Mutant Matt.
Wasn’t HIV the first trial of this policy, I remember reading a long time ago some expert suggesting it was designed to “thin out the non white population and sexual deviants”. His words not mine I stress. If it ever was true, then I suggest it hasn’t worked as he expected. Why should any similar experiment ever work?
Yep… Going to quote myself to save time!
No novelty there… The Fraud & Scam “HTLV-III/LAV – GRID” (later rebranded “HIV”/AIDS only due to gay sensitivity issues) is a TRILLION DOLLARS INDUSTRY.
This current Fraud & Scam “SARS-CoV-2″/”COVID-19” will beat that old scheme by many TRILLIONS.
In the end the REALITY remains the same,
MONEY IS GOD, and they will use all sort of fakery to have plenty of GOD in their wallets… No matter if we’re a religious zealot or a roadrunner seeking truth.
That XX century event was the first attempt to try to CONTROL the Herd via a “global pandemic”… Since THEY didn’t had the WWW and “smart”phones at the time the power of SPREADING FEAR AND PROPAGANDA was very little so the operation failed the goal of control, but was, and still is very successful in generating HUGE PROFITS… Trillions of profits.
Just imagine that each moron labelled “HIV+” has to ingest pills for the rest of his/her lifetime, and perform test, and go to appointments and so on!
OPERATION COVIDIUS, is a success in all fronts.
So in short, we’re fucked.
BIG pHARMA
Always… It provides very good lives and fortunes to many millions of scoundrels, so no wonder they follow the Orders of the Owners!
I remember being terrified by the horrific AIDS adverts, totally fell for it. Now when I am struggling to understand how people are falling for the covid propaganda I remember how gullible I once was. But 17 is an impressionable age and there was no counter narrative on social media.
There was no social media… That’s one of the major factors for the failure of that fake viral pandemic.
When money talks, people die.
Some people dispute HIV itself, describing events as Pharma opportunism. I have no opinion on such a can of worms
“HIV” is just a brand… But if today it’s already of no purpose to say the same about recent brand “SARS-CoV-2” forget “HIV”!
We learn by our mistakes ……
Clearly WE DO NOT!
We stopped using Guillotines…
Kate Sheramani, ‘natural nurse in a toxic world’ would seem to be of similar mind and has been pilloried on line, so she must he been doing something right.
Kate Sheramani, the thinking person’s person.
Well said. They’re so arrogant and have now acquired the status of a State Religion that even the Royals have to kowtow to them. Had to admit that video of the Cambridges together with the nomenklatura enjoying a night out in the theatre and their kids getting gifts left a nasty taste in the mouth for me. Would have rather cleaners, bin men, delivery drivers and supermarket workers and their families were given this treat not the NHS.
Samuel Wormald circa 1926?
Transhumanism, as described in the Winter Oak article ‘The Great Fascist Reset’ seems too far fetched.
Transhumanism is being prepared by Transgenderism… Just relax and enjoy the shit show.
Schwab talks about transhumanism in his WEF speech.
Uncle Bill’s father was a eugenicist.
Schwab looks Transhuman.
He is also closely resembles the Bugblatter Beast:
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Yep Jack Nic’s character in that film has been on my mind for a long time now all through this fiasco. I watched it when I was a teen and it left a nasty feeling inside then. I guess it made me buck against authority since I was a wee nipper, which is a healthy response to such state sanctioned intervention.
I saw One flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest in 1975 when it came out, and still have it on DVD. My girlfriend was in hospital last January to be checked out for a bruised knee. She was in for a week all told, having picked up a bug the place. The arrogance, coldness and bureaucratic mindset of the staff in there has made me resolve to have as little as possible to do with the NHS in future. I’ve met plenty of Nurse Ratched types, and some arrogant pricks of young doctors, and very occasionally, a genuine healing personality.
Eugenics didn’t go away, but uses name magic to front in other ways. What do you think Bio Genetic Security (Control) entails? Evil works through those who cling to the mask of virtue. They are not evil, but fear and hate of evil gives power to the mask as for ‘protection’ this runs the protection racket. If you get this it goes down to the roots of what we call consciousness. The error is externalising fears – which then condition the mind that tries to fight, eradicate or deny and control them externally. The thought we accept gives rise to the way we see our life, our world , each other. Likewise to above, the attempt to deny and suppress thoughts, gives them power over us. Whatever we accept and live from as true, goes forth and multiplies. In Orwellian terms a doublethink of conflicted thought – that Jesus calls a house divided – seeks to mask as a narrative unity that is self-contradictory and therefore self-destructive. So as our own free willingness in our own timing, we can stop ‘breeding’ thoughts or ways of thinking that are self-destructive, and become more discerning of the word and thought that truly… Read more »
Excellent post.
In Greece, there was a sharp lockdown in the spring and practically nobody died. The right-wing government duly took credit. Then in the autumn deaths started to rise, coinciding with the normal colder and wetter weather, and another lockdown was declared. The cases and more importantly deaths look like they are starting to go down but this is after five weeks of nearly everything being closed down and only the police moving around freely in the small hours. My guess is the uptick is because the first lockdown meant no “low hanging fruit” were gathered but that just left more for the autumn. If, as I suspect, Covid is related to climate and the flu season, the fact that Greece is hot and sunny for about eight months of the year would explain a great deal.
And who exactly is going to “investigate” that?!
Same with the Liverpool Care Pathway
DON’T.GET.ME. STARTED. ON. THAT. SUBJECT. PLEASE.
Sweden 1918 Spanish flu 99% of all deaths below 65
Sweden 2020 C-19 90% of all deaths over 70
‘Bat me to it’, excellent!
LD
CANDACE OWENS : USE YOUR BRAINS PEOPLE !!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mF2EFGfB2U
Candace Owens gives her two cents on current affairs with you know what…
Yes … a previous vaccine made her ill
Did Tiny Tim die with or from covid? Or was his death covid related?
Did he ever have a PCR test? and if he did was it a false positive?
Was his death certificate forged by Mrs Shipman the care home manager?
Did the Crachits really have bat soup starter for Christmas lunch?
Was there a vegan option?
Suppose we will never know, as they burnt the poor sods body
Did he even die? Or was it all made up by the Chinese?
He choked on a bah humbug.
That Andrew Green article is SO brilliant and SO chilling, I have picked up the entire text and copied it to a document in case “they” manage to delete it. Brave man. Hero of our time. I keep saying, you can be pro or anti vaccines in general but please don’t be pro injecting unsuspecting vulnerable people with an experimental drug that could alter their genetic code! First they temporarily dehumanise people with mandatory masks, next they permanently dehumanise people with a genetically modifying drug. A chilling new poignancy has been given to my war cry… STAY HUMAN! (I said it to a particularly covidious member of staff in WH Smith’s yesterday… it felt good!)
Cease and desist papers served on Christian Drosten by Dr. Reiner Füllmich Green Mango GmbH, represented by Nils Roth v. Prof Dr. Christian Drosten Dear Professor Drosten, We hereby indicate that Green Mango GmbH, Bülowstrasse 56, 10783 Berlin, represented by the managing director, Mr. Nils Roth, has commissioned us to represent its interests on the basis of the enclosed power of attorney. Our client has suffered and continues to suffer significant harm as a result of the grossly disproportionate measures imposed to contain the COVID-19 pandemic without an evidence-based foundation. You are personally responsible for this harm because, as one of the individuals who intervened significantly and decisively in the policy deliberations, you intentionally alleged, and continue to allege, false facts and – also intentionally – concealed, and continue to conceal, material facts. In the name of and on behalf of our client, we claim that you should rectify your erroneous contribution to policy advice in connection with the COVID 19 crisis and compensate our client for the damage already incurred. {17 pages of argument} Our client expressly reserves the right to assert claims that exceed this initially demanded amount. In addition, we request that you correct the following statements… Read more »
The whole truth about the lockdown.
Savour that phrase.
Nuremberg looms.
It would be nice to target individuals in the UK Government for their part in this Covid-19 farce. Prime candidates would be Wancock, Whitless & Unbalanced. Although I very much suspect any such action would be denied by the Courts, as Simon Dolan discovered.
PCR CLAIMS. ..
Evidenceagainst the use of PCR tests to drive government directives
The legal case against the government will be based on the following facts. Increased PCR Testing was the main metric to justify further lockdowns throughout the UK
Coronavirus case numbers have consistently been based on PCR tests. Large increases in the number of tests carried out led to large increases in cases. This did not correlate with hospital admissions. Case increases were solely used to justify further lockdowns, whilst ignoring the actual real-time clinical and hospital data. Models based on PCR tests were immediately mathematically proven to be highly implausible and yet the lockdown measures remained in place. In addition, out-of-date death data was used to model future scenarios. When these models were proven to be highly inaccurate, lockdown measures remained in place.
More here…….
https://pcrclaims.co.uk/evidence.php
That might explain this:
https://www.who.int/news/item/14-12-2020-who-information-notice-for-ivd-users
… the probability that a person who has a positive result (SARS-CoV-2 detected) is truly infected with SARS-CoV-2 decreases as positivity rate decreases, irrespective of the assay specificity. Therefore, healthcare providers are encouraged to take into consideration testing results along with clinical signs and symptoms, confirmed status of any contacts, etc.
Advice on action to be taken by users:
Hopefully Fuellmich will establish a compelling precedence.
Reiner is a total Honey Badger! Brilliant stuff.
Yes, he’s emerging as one of the true heroes of the Western World in all this.
Does any one know how he’s funding it?
via https://corona-ausschuss.de/dokumente/
Corona Ausschuss have received donations towards months of investigation work
Normal practice is that anyone joining class action pays a fee
Thanks. He seems like a man on a mission – we need more like him.
Does that explain Drosten’s statement here? Backpedalling?
https://twitter.com/LGcommaI/status/1338954407610871808?fbclid=IwAR1mAILBmMGiedKcvjJrdEzn5qlIzZq7sC5t1G3nY2vAq93AToSgLb9ivQk
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Not directly Cheez, this YT video was recorded some time ago.. I don’t know exactly when perhaps after 1st lockdown. He has back peddled on a few things but people have short memories ..
15th December?
Reiner Fuellmich’s a hero
I hope he has bodyguards and protection. Big Pharma is a mafia
From the Roundup
‘Thanksgiving surge is a no show’.
At least three times on yesterday’s Today Programme the presenter used such phrases as
‘we all know what happened after Thanksgiving in America’
when trying to prod the interviewee into guilting people into not taking advantage of relaxed rules over Xmas or even cancelling them altogether.
On a lighter note in the later Jeremy Vine show talking about safe family gatherings he asked his guest
“Would shuffling a couple of seats down the table be any good if someone starts coughing ?”
And
“Are there any masks that you can wear while eating?”
Taking the piss surely ?
It’s hard to tell but I do wonder if he is sometimes being sarcastic!
https://www.aier.org/article/the-decimal-point-that-blew-up-the-world/
One of the best articles from AIER.
That is dynamite and Fauci will be held to account sooner or later
yeah, just like tony blair
This is indeed a brilliant article. This is a crazy world that it is written by an economist and not by a public health expert. What happened with Public Health since the swine flu pandemic 2009? That time in Mexico, where the first cases were detected, we also had preliminary a CFR for swine flu from Mexican hospitals at 1-3 %. But Public Health handled it better that time explaining CFR and no apocalyptic predictions on the scale used this time. What happened during these intervening 11 years? Bill Gates, the megalomaniac or Doctor Mabuse, choose your epithet, bought enormous influence in the major public health actors.
As the meme says, “I understood that reference”, but only because I took a course on early European cinema at university…
Smartphones
It used to take effort to get on the internet in 2008
Great article!!
To your friends and family who get the mRNA “vaccine” say, “Congrats on becoming one of the first genetically modified human beings!” I think some people will genuinely take it as a compliment. I think this battle is lost. But we are still in the war. STAY HUMAN!
Suggest they go full Robocop next.
Waking up in Gulag Wales, under the heel of a pathological liar and sadist. Amidst a horde of subhumans who want nothing better than to be stomped on by a raving psychopath.
Three million faceless, gutless, brainless, spineless, grovelling, muzzled masochists.
But I still know that sanity is not statistical and I am the sane one.
I suppose a holiday in Wales this year is out?
There were plenty of maskless in my usual North Wales getaway, away from the north coast tourist trail when I went in September. Who knows now?
Come and be welcome. You ca stay with us in Pembs. No charge for LSs.!
I still have my 20P brief history of Pembroke Castle that I bought when I visited Pembrokeshire just before Christmas 1976. Cromwell was a ##$%! These days Boris and co have taken his place.
In the caravan park near me we’ve got about half a dozen camper vans and caravans parked up, despite it being mid-winter. I presume these are hardened walkers drawn by the proximity to the Offa’s Dyke Path and the Ceiriog Trail. And being so close to the English border, there’s only a short hop for a decent lunch in a Shropshire pub.
Tell me about it – as I live here too now. I’m single/living on my own and expecting round a friend for dinner on Boxing Day. Now, knowing she’s due to go to what she makes plain she regards as her best friend here on Christmas Day and that she’s rather an abider by rules – I am currently feeling nervous she’ll try ringing up and saying she “has to” cancel the meal with me – and blow me. Still working out exactly what way to respond that doesn’t amount to verbally slaughtering her on the spot if she does that – which hopefully she realises and so won’t do so…
“Its funny. I was going to say the same thing to you. I have to assume that you’re a disease vector too.”
‘Nationalism’ for short
If you click on the link to the Tubingen info, you will actually see that they were doing exactly what the GBD recommended and that therefore, it is indeed possible and does work. A bit odd to put these stories so close together and not recognize or articulate this.
“not enough evidence vitamin D prevents covid” – the usual suspects.
So, did the cases used for evidence take 7000 IU of vitamin D per day, just to make sure? (and good quality stuff). And did they combine it with vitamin K – say 90 micrograms per day? And did they also take 3000 mg/day of vitamin C, in divided doses? Did they take 400mg/day of Magnesium in citrate, malate, chelate or chloride forms? 20mg of zinc? 100 micrograms of selenium? Was the advice of the Orthomolecular Medicine News Service sought? Was it? Was it really? We deserve to know.
But of course, I forgot, there’s more money in vaccines and drugs.
Sorry, but this story really was a red rag for me.
Where’s the evidence that Pfizer snake oil ‘prevents’ Covid?
I take 10000 IU’s a day and i feel good just like James Brown said i would
Great questions!!
They do not want people to be healthy therefore the trial was rigged
https://vitamindwiki.com/Clinical+trials+are+proving+that+Vitamin+D+fights+COVID-19+in+hospitals
Same with HCQ and the “toxic” scare stories
Literelly anything these fiends say- the exact opposite is normally the truth
The chin-wobbler of the week surely were and are A. LIM Kim and her caddy.
It’s absolutely disgusting to watch sports events and reporting on TV these days- and Westwood and Fitzpatrick weren’t that much better either.
A pure mask propaganda show that is in 99% of the broadcast cases/incidences medically absolutely pointless, even if they could make any difference at all.
Which they can’t, of course.
To the contrary, as the recent Kansas counties analysis demonstrated.
https://reitschuster.de/post/studie-erhoehen-die-masken-die-sterblichkeit/
Westwood did not go to the majors because it was not safe. Twat. Do you think they gave a more deadly strain than we have in Europe.
Jules, have you got my December 28th statement ready yet? I’m off to Cornwall tomorrow for 10 days.
Yes Mr Hancock, it’s on your desk.
“Well I hope you all enjoyed yourselves over Christmas as I did.
We the government trusted you to use your own judgement to keep safe. The Prime Minister warned you that ‘3 families for 5 days’ was an absolute maximum and not a target.
The Chief Medical Officer implored you to continue to keep your distance even while indoors.
Sadly you have let us down and abused our trust.
PHE are now predicting a catastrophic rise in deaths where Covid19 is mentioned on the death certificate so, with a heavy heart, we have no alternative but to place the entire country into tier 4 effective midnight tonight, details available on Twitter and Facebook.”
Very good Jules, what are the details?
We haven’t made them up yet Mr. Hancock, Merry Christmas Sir.
A Covidian journo at the DT harps praise on Tom Cruise and frames and diffamate us sceptics as Covidiots, again.
I can understand his economic concerns and the responsibility he carries here. I can also understand that with regard to F1, PGA etc– they have no choice but to follow the rules, like most other businesses.
But I can’t understand or accept their overzealous, pointless rules and enforcement and their virtue propaganda broadcasting in that regard.
And it becomes totally ridiculous and hypocritical when I see Mr. Cruise with his Darth Vader mask with two valves, which render that mask completely useless anyway.
So I wake up today to the news that apparently my home town of Brighton is being mentioned as likely to be pushed into tier 3 today, just as families begin their Christmas holidays from school.
This is seemingly despite having 6 people in ICU across its hospitals in the area.
It was only two days that local press here was celebrating low numbers.
This is all too much to deal with.
i’m in the plague region of bristol and in tier 3 – cases reduced significantly but i doubt the tier will be reduced to 2 and therefore keep us eternally imprisoned.
I suspect they will never reduce the tiers and only increase by stealth the areas until the entire country is locked up under tier 3 for the majority of next year!! I hate to be pessimistic but this seems the likelyhood with this regime!
That does indeed seem to be the case. Tiers are the opposite of mens’ willies….they only go up and never come down.
Change agents run your town council.
MASSIVE NEWS FROM GERMANY. The class action lawsuit against Prof. Christian Drosten (Charité) based on criminal use of his fake PCR test has now started. Learn about it here and please spread this good news. https://twitter.com/howardsteen4/status/1339282976320991233?s=21
Here’s wishing them every success.
By golly, a win against Drosten would get our own PCR liars indulging in some involuntary defecation.
“Involuntary defecation”.
I’m stealing that!
mee too, crikey you’re an eloquent individual Annie
Send them shiploads of replacment undies.
Or boxes of Depends.
I wonder how much Drosten trusts his body guards?
Now hear this:
World Health Organization urges families to wear face masks and socially distance at Christmas to prevent deadly January coronavirus peak
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9059365/World-Health-Organization-urges-families-wear-face-masks-Christmas-togethers.html?ito=social-twitter_mailonline
I just burst out laughing, knowing the Welsh morons will do it.
The other evening the local wildlife group had a committee meeting, a real people gathering in the church hall meeting, As we went in one craggy old forestry guy said i suppose we have to wear these pulling out something that looked like it had last been used to wipe his chainsaw, he looked at me maskless and stuffed it back in his pocket and it was never seen again, 3 others followed suit, so the meeting was majority maskless. The last time I went shopping a lot of people seem to have given up wearing their mask over their nose so that they could breath more easily, which indicated they were playing the game without being all that convinced. I think there are quite a lot of people who could be convinced to abandon them. The English face mask regs come up for review in January (I do not know about the Welsh ones?). I think we need to push for everyone to make their 2021 new year resolution to abandon face masks and learn to be a free thinking human again. Since we decided to inject some new impetus into the English face mask petition it has jumped… Read more »
What if they live in a tiny house in the valleys? More like 2 inches social distancing there.
The W.H.O. can’t make up its mind. Masks, no masks. Poor dears. Must be bipolar.
BBC says no evidence for Vit D.
It’s just willful ignorance now.
“Covid and vitamin D: ‘Not enough evidence’ for treatment”
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-55333063
Not enough evidence for a cheap, plentiful and proven supplement which looks likely to have major benefits and zero downsides. Meanwhile all hail the expensive experimental “vaccine” with no long-term testing, (known) side effects that are for most people worse than symptoms, and for which the manufacturers do not know whether it prevents transmission or fertility.
when you put it like that line me up for the shot. I like risky behaviour and a shot of the goo sounds like the man with the bottle of liquid acid asking if you want one drop or two. I take 10000 IU of vitamin D very day but for it to work at it’s best you need to combine it with tobacco. Stay away from booze though.
I don’t smoke.
Can I take extra D to counteract the boooze?
People should be taking Vitamin D during the winter months anyway. It has some benefits but virtually no downsides so what is there to lose?
Anything opposite of what the BBC says is the truth. Vitamin D has always been recommended during the autumn and winter months. There is a reason why.
The PHE trail was rigged. They used the RDA of 400IU vitamin D3 per day – it is well known that it is too low to make any difference. Why then did they use it?
https://vitamindwiki.com/Clinical+trials+are+proving+that+Vitamin+D+fights+COVID-19+in+hospitals
https://vitamindwiki.com
Rhetorical question?
Where was the evidence to support forcing us all to wear face wrappings??
Wow! The BBC actually sickens me
Robin Monotti Graziadei on Twitter has devoted a lot of time and energy into investigating Vitamin D. I trust him – not the BBC
So why is the NHS recommending it – albeit in paltry doses?
Oh …… !
8 PEOPLE DIE, GOVERNMENT CANCEL CHRISTMAS – A TYPICAL DAY IN LONDON.
Can the government really be that stupid ?
26 Hospital deaths in London with positive COVID tests for December 10 (last day reliable information available- fairly typical day): source ONS. Typically 74% of COVID deaths in hospital, so estimated total deaths with positive tests = 35.
718 ‘excess’ deaths in week 49. Weekly deaths for England and Wales for week 49 2020 per ONS: 12,303. Average for previous 5 years: 10,695.
Adjust for population of over 70s (UK figures) 10,695 x 7.712m/ 7.119m = 11,585, so excess deaths for week 718. 7,712,000 is current estimated over 70s population, 7,119,000 is average for last 5 years.
However per Worldometer 2,968 died in week 49 after positive COVID test, so estimated excess deaths from COVID are 718/2968 x 35 = 8 people
Meanwhile, 1,499 Emergency Department attendances cancelled. ( Source: EDSSS Bulletin (publishing.service.gov.uk) Emergency Department attendances week 49 2019: 186,455, week 49 2020: 122,327. Difference per day: 9,161, for London 9,161 x 9m/55m = 1,499).
If this is responsible for fewer than 8 deaths, we may as well shut the NHS !!
We have shut the NHS, haven’t we?
Yes , back in March.
In need of caffeine I popped into an unfamiliar country pub yesterday although it was not obviously open.
While parking I spot two people in the gazebo so it’s looking good. I opened the door marked ‘entrance only’ to be confronted by a masked woman who said in a hostile way
“You alright then ?”
Waving my credit card I told her I would like a coffee.
“Have you got the Track’n’Trace App ?”
No, but you can have my email
“You’ve got to send a text message to this number (sign just inside the door) saying who you are and it’s only you”.
But I’ll be staying outside I explained
“You still got to text them”.
I made my excuses and left. Has anyone else come across texting Track’n’Trace before ? Presumably it is to get around the 70% of people said not to answer ‘unknown number’ calls.
Businesses that insist on this nonsense deserve to stay shut.
Agree. If you are stupid there is no hope
I wonder how much pressure is being put on franchisees / landlords by the Pub companies? to comply with such regulations – If they are they are forced to behave in stupid ways then this compounds the misery for a sector in catastrophic peril
And go out of business.
Is that even a thing?
That pub deserves to go bust.
All our restaurants in essex just ask for your name and phone number. We always give our name as A Johnson and a fake number.
Ditto.
That A Johnson certainly gets around the country.
He has a phone number in every town too.
Yes…a pub in Dulwich , The Bishop uses this. Last time I was there for a Sunday roast they wanted this so I did it..The waitress was really apologetic and it later turned out that her and her boyfriend are sceptics but she doesn’t have a choice..Btw, I never do that with any other places, the ”NHS app” that was linked on this site a while ago is a very good option.
Some businesses have their own system and will only forward the information if they have a “case”.
Could you not send it to a different number?
Since side-effects were so common among the vaccinees, it would be obvious to many that they had received the jab itself… I hadn’t even thought of that! That if a treatment and placebo produce wildly different physical results in the patient, then it’s hardly a blind study. Whether the subject makes the above assumption or not, the fact that the two group’s behaviour after the vaccination may differ as a result of the side effects means that the test is surely invalidated..? Neville Hodgkinson continues: … making them less likely to go for a Covid test than those in the placebo group. And since the testing regime used is in any case notoriously unreliable as a diagnostic tool, throwing up many false positives, this difference could account for at least some of the “95% success rate” claimed. Possibly, but it never crossed my mind that the confirmation of ‘cases’ was down to whether the person had chosen to go for a test themselves; I assumed that Pfizer were themselves doing regular testing. If so, an explanation for the ‘effectiveness’ could still be due to the fact that the people with the physical side effects simply changed their behaviour, staying in… Read more »
Apparently some of the trial participants “unblinded” themselves by independently getting antibody tests to see whether they’d got the vaccine or the placebo – see this Reddit thread:
https://www.reddit.com/r/CoronavirusMa/comments/ilyzun/pfizer_vaccine_trials/
If people suspected or knew that they’d had the vaccine they might indeed have been less likely to report symptoms.
ha ha so much for a proper blind trial
Or conversely, knowing they had received the vaccine, not placebo, they engaged in more contacts and were exposed to more opportunities for infection due to risk compensation…
In either event, the fact that vaccinated subjects were 20x less likely to report a symptomatic infections, and none developed serious COVID diseases is an impressive and robust finding.
Are you being serious? I don’t like to invoke the troll accusation, but we’re supposed to be talking about science, not comedy. You are openly stating that an experiment is so flawed that there are several possible explanations for an effect in addition to the one the experimenters would like you to think it is. Surely this is the sort of thing an eleven-year old would understand invalidates an experiment.
No, I was merely commenting than an accidentally unblinded study could lead to multiple differing consequences. What’s so odd about that? Google risk compensation.I don’t actually think the experiment is flawed, personally because the magnitude of effect is just so large. That is not the case for the Danish mask study, where modest mask wearing effects might easily be negated by more/closer contacts. The effect was 15% not 95%.
Notice in Kidderminster branch of Next: When using our sanitizer, please make sure that you rub your hands until they are dry, as ”
wet” sanitizer can stain clothing and we will not be held responsible, etc”.
Alternatively: Stick your sanitizer, etc.
Don’t blame you. The charity shop walkout thing I did was a very small “individual” type charity shop (not part of a chain) here in Cardigan – when the two old biddies running it demanded very forcefully that I put on sanitiser as soon as I walked in the door and wouldnt take “No” for an answer. Cue for me saying “Lose the money I might have spent then – I’m leaving” and proceed to do so.
Little victories!
Gober
Pyle.
I’ve boycotted charity shops because they’ve been the worst. You know its really bad when the big chains treat their customers better.
Have not bought anything from them and ain’t donating either. Any clothes I want to give away, I’ve given them to M&S and H&M both of who have drop off boxes in their shops.
Yes -just about every charity shop has the no mask no entry , 1 person in entire shop signs.
I walked past an Oxfam shop recently and laughed like a drain when I saw the sign “Only X number allowed in the shop” and people were giving it a wide berth.
Was sorely tempted to make funny faces at the staff.
Great.
I used to frequent charity shops at least 4x per week. However never been back since they hysterically insisted on their sanitizer, masks and stupid one way systems that actually forces people to be closer to each other. Now happily buying from eBay.
Also no more donations to charity shops – either use the collection bins or chuck stuff in the rubbish bin – so much for recycling or saving the earth….
I might have to do that with non-clothing such as books and DVDs.
Would rather give my clothes to H&M because they do recycle the fabrics into new clothes.
I have seen a few of those signs…its clear that they are selling very little with their ‘in your face’ regulations you face the moment you step in the door. A lot only allow 1 person in as well and you are not allowed to touch anything.
I’ve seen visitors who sanitise their hands every time they see a sanitising point at where I work. It can get bad and I find myself recoiling at the smell.
the alcohol based hand gel was removed from hospitals when it was discovered that alcoholics were taking cupfuls adding orange juice then drinking it.
If you’re using hand sanitiser you should rub your hands together until the gel has dried. The hand sanitiser also destroys the natural oils which are part of the barrier section of the innate immune system.
I sometimes got light headed, seemingly out of nowhere, at work, until I realised I had just filled up the spray bottle of sanitzier a few minutes before. the light headedness lasted up to 10 minutes!
Bit off subject but before the batflu when you would go to the gym it always had that people working out smell. It always gave you a bit of a buzz to know that you were there to work out. Now it smells like a sodding hospital. Every weight you pick up is slippery with cleaner and when you lay on a bench and start your exercise, you inhale all the fumes of the antibac they spray on the base and it makes my eyes water.
Ours is all antisocial distancing. Every other tradmill/crosstrainer is closed down. All the benches are in 2m square taped off areas. The lockers are shut down, the loos and showers are locked. You are not supposed to ask someone to spot you. Apparently it’s ok to be stuck under the Bench Press but not for two of you to touch the same bar! It’s not the gyms fault they felt they had to do something to be open. It’s only a small local gym and they cannot be making a living now. Gyms getting more and more empty and they have the additional cost of the blue paper towels and antibacterial spray.
Shame not to support an independent but you should find another. It’s good to spend time in a place where the sane are the majority.
I’ve seen that a lot. Even more disgusting is when they finish eating where rather than wipe their hands with the napkins then go to the loo to wash their hands, they use the gunk instead. It doesn’t enter into their thick skulls that the alcohol is just masking the texture and smell of what they’ve eaten and that the gunk is just there leaving a coat of film on their hands.
What was the name of the experiment with the dogs who started salivating at the sound of a bell?
Same with using sanitzier. People do not even think about it.
Pavlova ?
Ivan Pavlov
I hardly ever buy new cloths. I pretty much only shopped in charity shops. After mandatory face nappy day I haven’t bothered with them. Until all the covid bollocks is gone I won’t be using them again.
Likewise for all other shops too. Same for pubs and restaurants and takeaway, public transport, everything.
Yes I used to enjoy the charity shops especially in a new town but not been in one since March. Every shop seems to have a sign saying ‘no more donations’ so i suspect they are selling heehaw as the scots say.
I do think the news from Parliament about mandatory vaccination is extremely positive. It is a further sign that the government is, finally, starting to make decisions on a basis other than raw populism.
I agree, but… it still leaves a loophole for a testing-based health passport.
There is wiggle room there but it shows there is a bit of a change in the mood music. There is no way Johnson is going to fiddle about too much with the tiers. Whilst we all know that that is ridiculous and, if we stopped testing in the morning the whole business would be over, the government has got to take baby steps to wean the fearful off their fix. As a Munster rugby supporter and a Somerset cricket supporter, I am more aware than most that it is the hope that kills you, but we have had nearly a week of the government starting to show a bit of sense.
It was never going to be mandatory, not at first.To announce something like that when only 100,000 people have been vaccinated would be stupid.
The coercion will be piecemeal.Airline travel will be first,most destinations already require a negative test before you arrive.Certain occupations next.Once you get to a majority of the population then the screw will turn.
This is a week where London was forced into tier 3 and Wales announced a 3rd lockdown.The theatre over the easing of the restrictions was just that;they are giving us a concession they cannot enforce.
I see no cause for optimism,this only ends when enough people say it does.
Typical ambiguous political fuckery…
“We have absolutely no plans for vaccine passporting.”
Is that ever or yet?
“We” might very well mean it but it’s bloody useless if every other country does have such plans.
Making it mandatory would just wake too many peeps up far too soon.
How far do you reckon you could throw them? Not as far as my fucking pitchfork – that you can take to the bank.
This supposed Covid spike in Germany… It’s happening at the same time as the usual winter respiratory viruses, and there may well be a dry tinder effect happening as well – unlike us, they managed not to kill off their most vulnerable earlier in the year.
I don’t have any faith in PCR testing; I don’t have any faith in the certification of cause of death; I don’t have any faith in the people who compile the statistics. And most of all, I refute the whole logic of shutting down an economy in response to a line on a graph – that has been doing the same thing every year for millennia, but unseen until this year.
I agree but “look at Germany” has been a mantra of the “lock down earlier” crowd. Point out their current situation and that, particularly stupid, argument is exposed.
It’s a recurring issue for anyone who substitutes ‘data’ in lieu of rational argument.
Back in March, many on our side of the argument were saying that while ‘Covid deaths’ were supposedly going through the roof, all-causes mortality would not be in excess, thus showing that it was just an artefact of testing and misattribution. They were caught out by an apparent spike in all-causes mortality. What they had failed to anticipate was that the craziness of government policy, and the lockdown itself, would cause a rupture in the usual keeping-alive of old people in hospitals. It only takes a small change to produce a noticeable, nonlinear spike in deaths in such circumstances, even if the actual total of lost weeks or months is low (and virtually zero in QALYs).
When you argue over data, you are playing the fascists’ game, on their territory.
But there is never any context to their data. What was it like last winter? What has happened over the past 10 winters? Lies, damn lies and statistics! Good to see that smug Merkle bitch taken down a peg though.
Anything that pushes Sweden (and perhaps UK if we switch to LF testing) down the deaths “league table” is fine by me. Two can play the death mis-attribution game.
What does one peg matter in the grand scheme of things to her .
The embers are glowing somewhere deep down inside this particular bitch.
Do not believe anything that they tell you. Nothing!
I’m sure the scientists on here will explain this to us in layman’s language. I thought that the government had sent something similar to laboratories in the U.K. on October 28th ie a positive test, particularly at a higher number of cycles, needs to be seen in context with clinical symptoms.
https://www.who.int/news/item/14-12-2020-who-information-notice-for-ivd-users
Simon Dolan #KBF (@simondolan) Tweeted: “the distinction between background noise and actual presence of the target virus is difficult to ascertain”
The PCR tests which have been used to shut down and destroy economies are not fit for purpose.
@TiceRichard
@MattHancock https://t.co/9WojF3SWZu
https://twitter.com/simondolan/status/1339453216665313280?s=20
I can barely articulate how much of a complete and utter wanker Tom Cruise is. That motherfucker has a fucking large gold medal for valour presented to him by the very stupid cult of Scientologists. “Valour”, how can such a fucking poison dwarf like him who fronts a giant scam that has to be the dumbest religion ever invented get a medal for valour? You may think flying donkeys and virgin births to be utterly stupid but these cunts, holy fucking shit. I truly wish Tom Cruise a mischief, i hope the little fucker goes bald. As far as the faggots in Hollywood go, these people are scum. They are all child fuckers, all of them. See all your big stars, they rape kids. Just watch them at the Oscars where they give a standing ovation for the child anal rapist who drugged his victim. It sends a shiver down my spine to know that these cunts openly praise rapists like him and the total fucking mongs that go to the movies don’t give a fuck. It’s the clown world. Trump says lets stop wars and he’s a racist and a bigot and Obama says lets drop drone bombs and… Read more »
On fire this morning biker.
What kind of bike do you race?
Motocross. I’ve a 80’s Two Stroke Honda CR 500 and a Two Stoke KX 250. Plus a number of road bikes. Off road racing and trail riding are my thing. I live in a place where within ten minutes i can be in the hills unmolested by the kind of wanker who wants to stop people like me riding bikes over the hills
My husband used to do enduro racing and wants back at it. He has a 4 stroke Honda as well but it’s a 400 I believe. Off roading is his paradise, he did the Carpathian mountains in Romania a few years back and the blue mountains in jamacia. he tries to take off to a few forests nearby where no one can report him.We’ve toured a bit around europe on his armstrong MT500. I just ride a wee SR125 Yamaha.
I ride a 125 sometimes too, i’ve a Yamaha wr 125 x supermoto and it’s a lot of fun. Wales is good for tiding in the hills, i’ve done a few trips down there over the years.
Terrible that we have never been to Wales but hoping for a trip there next summer.
What kind of music does your band play?
I’ve imagined you doing cover versions from Daydream Nation, with you standing in as Kim Gordon (‘Fuck you, are you for sale? Does fuck you sound simple enough?’
Respect, brother.
U Ok hun? 😂😂
(Joke – before you come get me!)
I’m plenty old enough to be a granny, though thank God I’m not one, so don’t have to watch my grandchildren being tortured.
The only thing I want saving from is Dungford’s Stalinist psychopathic tyranny.
And I am busy saving myself, though any assistance is of course welcome.
You have my best wishes Annie. It’s small comfort to know there are people all over our island speaking out against this. It may well make all the difference.
Stick at it, stay angry! You are a tonic – and a pretty strong one.
If we ever meet him Biker, hold my coat….
Nailed it with every word.
Well said Biker!!!
Right on!
LGcommaI (@LGcommaI) Tweeted: Dr. #Drosten: “We are now losing public trust. Certainly.
.. Because the disease is not existing! [sic] It’s not there.
.. Even though the incidence goes up, the fatalities don’t go up. There are no dead people.” https://t.co/yeB1QO3eXc
https://twitter.com/LGcommaI/status/1338954407610871808?s=20
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Bear in mind, as pointed out by another poster yesterday, that this video was from the summer.
Sorry, didn’t see it had been posted yesterday.