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by Will Jones
20 December 2020 2:08 AM

Boris Cancels Christmas

Lord Protector Boris Johnson contemplates what other filthy frivolities might be putting the populace in harm’s way. (Image: The Week)

Prime Minister Boris Johnson yesterday announced his most humiliating U-turn to date, putting London and the South East into a new “Tier 4” (lockdown in all but name), cancelling the Christmas amnesty for those areas and reducing it to just Christmas Day for the rest of the country. The Telegraph has the details.

Boris Johnson was forced to introduce a new tier with tougher restrictions last night as he warned that a new variant of the virus was spreading “significantly more easily” among the population.

The Prime Minister told the nation: “When the virus changes its method of attack, we must change our methods of defence.”

He placed 18 million people across London, the South East and East of England into new Tier 4 restrictions which closely resemble November’s lockdown.

It came after he received alarming new evidence that a variant strain of COVID-19 – called VUI2020/12/01 – was ripping through areas in Tier 3, where restrictions were failing to control the spread.

For the rest of the country, the five-day window to form a Christmas bubble has been scaled back to just one 24-hour period.

From Sunday, non-essential, gyms, cinemas, hairdressers and bowling alleys will be forced to close for two weeks in Tier 4 areas, with people restricted to meeting one other person from another household in an outdoor public space.

The draconian measures will apply to London, Kent, Buckinghamshire, Berkshire, Surrey, Gosport, Havan, Portsmouth, Rother and Hastings, Bedford, Milton Keynes, Luton, Peterborough, Hertfordshire and Essex.

People under the new highest tier will also be banned from leaving their areas, and will no longer be allowed to meet up in Christmas bubbles of up to three households. The tiers will be reviewed at the end of the month.

For people living in Tier 1, 2 and 3 areas, the five-day window has also been drastically cut back to just Christmas Day.

It means millions of people hoping to visit and stay with friends and family now face having to cancel train tickets, flights and other travel plans.

It comes after Mr Johnson held an emergency Cabinet meeting this morning to sign off the changes, after scientists confirmed that the new strain is spreading more quickly and could be driving the surge in cases in the South East. 

What a kick in the baubles, as the Sun says.

Yet even before the announcement yesterday afternoon scientists were pushing back against the Government’s “new mutant strain” scaremongering. Time For Recovery UK released a statement calling on Matt Hancock to release more details about the strain, which it turns out is not new at all but has been around since at least September.

On Tuesday December 15th, Professor Nick Loman of the COVID-19 Genomics UK (COG UK) consortium, identified the new set of mutations as VUI – 202012/0. He confirmed that it is not new, as COG UK identified it in September, and there is no proof that it is more infectious. As Professor Sharon Peacock, COG Director, pointed out: “We are still dealing with very thin evidence at the moment about this variant.”

Dr Maria van Kerkhove, the technical lead of COVID-19 response and the Head of Emerging Diseases and Zoonosis Unit at WHO, has also confirmed that the strain involved has been circulating for many months, though she referred to it as N501Y.

Recovery is challenging Matt Hancock to answer these key questions:

– Why did he announce this as a new strain on the eve of the tier review when it appears to have been circulating for several months (and may have existed for months more before it was identified)?
– Why has he made headlines with the news that it’s more infectious when the experts who identified the strain say that we don’t have evidence for that yet?
– Will he publish the evidence he has for that so his claims can be independently verified?
– In the words of the Washington Post, “At a news conference Monday evening, neither Hancock nor England’s Chief Medical Officer, Chris Whitty, released enough data to help the public understand the significance of the new variant.” Does he now regret the way that this announcement was handled, given that it has attracted international criticism?
– With millions of lives and livelihoods at stake, does he now consider that the statement he made to Parliament about the ‘new’ strain may have been misleading?
– Does he retain confidence in the Government advisers who briefed him on it?
– With even the experts at the WHO who are responsible for tackling the virus apparently confused by the information that the DHSC has provided over the details of the ‘new’ strain, will he remind his department to prioritise accuracy and the clear communication of the known facts over sensationalist language that makes headlines?

“There is a lot of trivial diversity in the spike protein. Over 20000 variants have been reported,” commented Professor David Livermore, Professor of Medical Microbiology at the University of East Anglia. “What is the hard evidence that this new variant really is so different against this background of great diversity? Apparently VUI202012/0 was first found in September. It’s not clear where it came from or how long it had existed previously. The delay before it expanded doesn’t fit with super-infectiousness. Any variant of SAR COV-19 might expand swiftly because it gets into a part of the country which has had a relatively low prior exposure to SARS-CoV2 – like  Kent or East Anglia – rather than because it has any particular biological advantage. As ever, talk of ‘exponential spread’ is misleading. We have now repeatedly seen that as exposure rises, spread slows.”

Jon Dobinson, Campaign Director of Recovery, commented, “The evidence suggests that Matt Hancock may have needlessly terrified millions of people by giving misleading information about a variant of the virus which has existed for months. With millions of lives and livelihoods at stake, it is imperative that the Government is seen to be carrying out a balanced and responsible public health campaign. This looks like irresponsible scaremongering. It increasingly seems as though Matt Hancock and his advisors are carrying out an all-out marketing campaign for harsh restrictions rather than taking a balanced and proportionate approach. It is now clear that he and the Government have been guilty of hugely damaging errors in tackling this virus. Are they trying to sustain the panic to avoid being held to account for the damage they have done? That would be criminally irresponsible, given the damage that their actions are causing. But it is increasingly hard to interpret their actions in any other way.”

The main evidence the variant transmits more easily appears to be the shape of the recent surge in London and the South East. But other parts of the country have had surges at other times. Why is it assumed this one must be due to a dangerous new variant? Worth recalling that December is always the busiest month for hospital admissions for respiratory disease and yet hospitals are currently quieter this year than last year.

Patrick O’Flynn in the Telegraph notes that the latest announcement fits a familiar pattern: “Isn’t it odd how these big, cataclysmic Covid U-turns always seem to get announced on a Saturday after the press-ganging of the PM by scientific advisers on a Friday?”

Paul Nuki brings, as ever, the voice of the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation global health establishment, arguing, “Boris Johnson had no choice but to tighten restrictions” because “with the R rate above one, hospitals struggling, and a new strain spreading across the South East, the PM’s hands were tied”. Nonsense, of course. But towards the end he inadvertently blurts out a confession.

Almost every year British hospitals fill up in the weeks following Christmas threatening a crisis in the NHS. This is caused by a range of factors – including social care staffing issues – but a large part of it is dictated by Christmas itself and the rules of contagion.

Indeed. So are we going to do this every year now?

Leo McKinstry responds robustly to the latest round of scaremongering.

We have repeatedly heard such alarmist talk throughout the pandemic, and frequently the worst fears have not been realised.  In their notorious press conference in September, used to justify the second lockdown, the Chief Medical Officer Christ Whitty and Chief Scientific Adviser Sir Patrick Vallance warned that there could be 4,000 Covid deaths-a-day in the autumn. Nothing like that total was ever reached. Nor has there been any fulfilment of the continual forecasts about Covid swamping the NHS. In fact analysis published this morning of NHS data shows that hospitals are actually quieter than they were this time last year, while intensive care units have more room.  

It’s the latest in the Government’s spectacularly incompetent handling of the pandemic, says McKinstry.

The shambolic announcement is part of a pattern of inconsistency and incompetence. From the start of the outbreak, the Government’s approach has been riddled with epic contradictions, sudden reversals, gross mismanagement, spectacular waste and incoherent communications. In the autumn, Boris Johnson denounced Sir Keir Starmer for proposing the so-called “circuit-breaker”, then a fortnight later implement one himself. One week Ministers told us it is was our duty, for the sake of the economy, to get back to work. Soon afterwards they said that we should stay at home if possible. Similarly, Mr Johnson’s Government imposed a curfew on pubs, without providing any convincing evidence to support it, just as the bombast about a “world-beating” testing regime has proved shallow.   

So many of the Government’s restrictive policies – including lockdowns, tiers, and compulsory mask-wearing – do not seem to be working. The failure of Tier 3 is not the cue for an alternative, but its elevation into Tier 4. Yet the evidence for the collateral damage caused by these controls is overwhelming – in economic meltdown, poor mental health, chronic loneliness and social anxiety. Only last week, new figures revealed disturbing rises in both unemployment and domestic violence. 

Brendan O’Neill in spiked is similarly unimpressed.

The neo-Cromwellian edict has been issued. The thing that Boris Johnson said would be “inhuman” just a few days ago has now been done. For the first time in centuries people in vast swathes of England – London and the South East – will be forbidden by law from celebrating Christmas together. The Government’s promise of five days’ relief from the stifling, atomising, soul-destroying lockdown of everyday life has been snatched away from us. It’s too risky, the experts say; the disease will spread and cause great harm. You know what else will cause great harm? This cruel, disproportionate cancellation of Christmas; this decree against family festivities and human engagement.

But will people comply? Brendan doesn’t think so.

I’m hearing from so many people that they intend to go ahead with their Christmas plans. Political leaders and the miserabilist media will no doubt brand them “Covidiots”, thoughtless pricks who don’t care about others. On the contrary, it is precisely because they care for others – for their happiness, their social needs, their thirst for human connection – that they will defy this edict and celebrate Christmas. Our politicians may not understand that the purpose of life is to be with and around and there for other people, but millions of us still do. 

The Spectator‘s Isabel Hardman draws attention to the lack of Government accountability in these decisions and the effect this is having on Conservative MPs.

Johnson will not have to face Starmer before the new policy comes into force: the regulations will be published tonight and the Coronavirus Act means Parliament does not need to be recalled to approve them. This will enrage a number of Conservative MPs who are already furious at the way the Government is handling the pandemic and who feel ministers are getting addicted to governing without scrutiny. Mark Harper, Chair of the Covid Recovery Group, has demanded a recall of Parliament, issuing a statement saying: “More immediately, given the three-tier system and the initial Christmas household rules were expressly authorised by the House of Commons, these changes must also be put to a vote in the Commons at the earliest opportunity, even if that means a recall of the House.”

At Lockdown Sceptics we wish the CRG and other conscientious MPs every success in bringing this out-of-control Government to heel.

Stop Press: A reader points out that although Tier 4 is being reported as having become legally enforceable as of midnight last night (Sunday), in fact there is no sign anywhere of a legal instrument, and until that appears Tier 4 rules are wholly advisory and have no legal basis. (You can read the current legal basis for the three-tier system here and it makes no mention of a Tier 4.) This means if the police try to stop you getting on a train you should ask them to specify which law you are breaking.

UPDATE: The new regulations are now published, in effect as of 7am this morning.

Stop Press 2: Boris’s latest flip-flop isn’t playing well in the broadsheets. Camilla Tominey in the Telegraph says he’s been “left with egg nog on his face“, while Tim Shipman in the Sunday Times says “cavalier Boris is now a sad, sober roundhead“.

New “Kent Covid” Variant is Less Deadly, Data Suggest

What follows is a guest post by Anthony J. Brookes, Professor of Genetics at the University of Leicester.

This new variant is most likely just an “asymptomatic variant”, i.e., a strain that causes no or very mild illness. This is exactly what natural selection would throw up and what would have been given a massive advantage when trying to suppress the virus by lockdowns and Test and Trace.

As such, it is likely a good thing, as it will help us achieve herd immunity more quickly, with far less illness. Thereafter, the virus will go away all by itself.

All viruses naturally evolve towards strains that are more transmissible but which cause mild or no disease. By lockdown and Test and Trace we have accelerated that natural process dramatically. One third of detected examples of this strain (or rather its clade) are in Essex, one third in London, and one third elsewhere in the UK. That is not consistent with a new strain with massive transmission advantage arising in one place (such as Essex) and spreading out from there. Hence this first “scary” graph actually proves that the new variant is not the cause of the prevalence increase in the claimed “problem” regions. It had the same percentage representation in three very different regions in early November. Whereas, if it were a new variant with rapid spread advantage it would instead have been ahead in one region and spread to the other regions later on.

In short, the new strain is spreading everywhere, as a background variant that causes no or mild disease, enabled to recently increase its relative abundance on account of lockdown and Test and Trace.

Something else is causing the apparent increase in the claimed “problem” areas. The “surge” in these regions is instead largely an artefact of massively increased testing in those regions – combined with reporting the misleading case rate (i.e., a simple count of detected positives, which consequently doubles if you double the amount of testing undertaken). The proper metric to look at is positivity rate (i.e., the percentage of people tested that got a positive result). And here it all is for Havering, one of the main “problem” regions in London, showing cases increasing with testing, but the positivity rate heading in the opposite direction.   

This final Government “chart of doom”, showing new hospital admissions in the “problem” areas, simply reflects the fact that they have massively increased testing in those parts of the country over the last few weeks – so creating more positives. The “new hospital admissions” measure is simply a count of how many (not what fraction) of new admissions had a positive test within the last 14 days. So it is exactly the same artefact as the case rate artefact. You can see this by comparing the admission curve to the amount of testing done in Havering.

How Deadly is COVID-19?

Stockholm

A new study in the Lancet concludes that COVID-19 is around three times more deadly than flu. This is based on a comparison of in-hospital mortality in France between the 2018-19 flu season and the spring SARS-CoV-2 epidemic. It finds 16.9% (15,104 of 89,530) of Covid patients died vs 5.8% (2,640 of 45,819) of flu patients.

The authors, Professor Lionel Piroth and colleagues, claim the study “highlights the importance of all measures of physical prevention”. But is that so? A disease under three times more deadly than flu would not seem to warrant wrecking the economy for, or demolishing millions of people’s liberties and livelihoods.

And is Covid really three times more deadly than flu? Here are three compelling reasons for thinking the study overestimates the death rate.

First, the in-hospital mortality rate of Covid has already reduced considerably since the spring when there was more uncertainty about how to treat patients and a rush to use ventilators (which often made things worse). It’s also possible hospital admissions were more selective in spring over capacity fears, raising the average severity of Covid illness in hospital and hence the fatality rate. Oddly, Piroth et al do not allow that treatment has improved, claiming that “no treatment has been shown to be effective for the COVID-19 clinical course”. This is a bizarre claim given the large and growing clinical and scientific evidence for the effectiveness of Ivermectin, Vitamin D, HCQ and other treatments.

Second, the flu mortality rate in recent years has been reduced by the annual flu vaccination programme. Without widespread vaccination flu would kill many more, as can be seen from winter mortality before vaccination was common.

Third, and perhaps most tellingly, Sweden had no excess mortality between July 2019 and July 2020, as demonstrated by researchers at the University of Oslo. The excess deaths in the spring epidemic were cancelled out by the mild 2019-20 flu season to leave overall mortality no higher than normal. The only increase was a 1% rise in mortality among the over-80s. If COVID-19 is three times more deadly than flu, how can a country which took only mild precautionary measures end up with deaths no higher than normal? This suggests that the higher estimates for Covid mortality are a result of not taking into account the “dry tinder” or mortality displacement effect of a build-up of the frail elderly population after a mild winter, plus a misclassification of deaths as “due to” COVID-19 when some other cause is primarily responsible.

Sweden, like many other countries, is currently experiencing an autumn surge. However, as elsewhere, its scale is being exaggerated by excessive testing and attention, as Dr Sebastian Rushworth, who is based in Stockholm, explains.

Here in Stockholm, the number of people being treated in hospital for Covid has been stable since late November, with around 800 people being treated simultaneously for Covid in hospitals (in spring around 1,100 people were simultaneously being treated for Covid in Stockholm at the peak).

Since the total number of hospital beds in Stockholm is around 3,850, it should be plain to everyone that the healthcare system has never been close to being overwhelmed, in spite of claims to the contrary in the media. And while it is true that hospitals are currently at 100% capacity, it is false to claim that that situation is in any way unusual. Sweden has among the lowest number of hospital beds per 100,000 population in Europe, and the hospitals are always running at 100% capacity at this time of year.

Despite introducing only light measures compared to other countries, Covid ICU admissions in Sweden have been falling since the end of November.

Excess mortality also began to fall at the end of November – a full week before ICU admissions began to decline.

This scale of mortality hardly seems to warrant closing down a country, which itself causes immense harm. Sadly, as Lockdown Sceptics reported yesterday, the Swedish Government now seems to have decided otherwise and is imposing stronger measures, despite their own example suggesting this is unnecessary.

Sweden is in the odd position of having proved to the world, through its prudent management of the crisis in the spring, that lockdowns aren’t necessary, and has now failed to heed that lesson, along with the rest of the world.

Incidentally, antibodies have been sharply on the rise again in Stockholm, an indication of an active epidemic as immune systems encounter the pathogen and produce the antibodies either for the first time or from T-cell memory (antibodies tend to fade over time when not in use, but the immunity remains in memory T-cells). Dr Sebastian Rushworth again:

One thing that I think is very interesting that has received little mention in the media is that the proportion of people with antibodies has been rising by 2 – 3% every week. In Stockholm, 37% of those tested for antibodies in week 49 were positive (up from 20% six weeks earlier). That suggests that the level of immunity is rising very rapidly in the population, and makes it questionable whether the vaccine will arrive in time to have any meaningful impact on the course of COVID-19 in Sweden, even if people start to get vaccinated shortly after Christmas, as is currently planned.

Stop Press: A recent edition of Julia Hartley-Brewer’s TalkRADIO show was pulled from YouTube because she had claimed that, for healthy people under 70, COVID-19 is less deadly than seasonal influenza. At Lockdown Sceptics, we did a quick fact check and concluded that what Julia had said is true. The most reliable estimate of the Covid IFR for the under-70s appears in Professor John Ioannidis’s recent paper for the World Health Organisation. He looked at 61 studies from around the world that have tried to measure the true prevalence of COVID-19 through serological studies and used that data to calculate the IFR. His estimate is that the IFR for Covid for healthy under-70s is 0.05%, i.e., it kills one in every 2,000 people that catch it. The IFR for seasonal flu is harder to calculate, partly because “flu” is a broad term covering a number of viruses, and partly because its deadliness varies from season to season. But according to Ross Clark in the Spectator, the IFR of the 2016-17 seasonal flu epidemic in the US was between 0.1% and 0.2%.

One of the most comprehensive sources of data is the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) in the US. In the season 2016/17 (the last for which full figures are available, more recent figures being provisional) the CDC estimated 29 million cases of flu across the US, resulting in between 29,000 and 61,000 deaths. That gives an IFR of between 0.1% and 0.2%.

WHO Admits Problem With PCR False Positives

Cartoon in the Christmas issue of the Spectator

The World Health Organisation has issued a medical alert drawing attention to the limitations of PCR tests and reminding users that for clinical diagnosis an examination of symptoms is required.

The probability that a person who has a positive result (SARS-CoV-2 detected) is truly infected with SARS-CoV-2 decreases as positivity rate decreases, irrespective of the assay specificity. Therefore, healthcare providers are encouraged to take into consideration testing results along with clinical signs and symptoms, confirmed status of any contacts, etc.

Users of RT-PCR reagents should read the IFU carefully to determine if manual adjustment of the PCR positivity threshold is necessary to account for any background noise which may lead to a specimen with a high cycle threshold (Ct) value result being interpreted as a positive result.  The design principle of RT-PCR means that for patients with high levels of circulating virus (viral load), relatively few cycles will be needed to detect virus and so the Ct value will be low. Conversely, when specimens return a high Ct value, it means that many cycles were required to detect virus. In some circumstances, the distinction between background noise and actual presence of the target virus is difficult to ascertain. Thus, the IFU will state how to interpret specimens at or near the limit for PCR positivity. In some cases, the IFU will state that the cut-off should be manually adjusted to ensure that specimens with high Ct values are not incorrectly assigned SARS-CoV-2 detected due to background noise.

This is an important admission and shows the work of Dr Mike Yeadon, Dr Clare Craig and others is making an impact. John O’Sullivan in Principia Scientific International has done a good write-up of the statement. He comments:

The UN body is now clearly looking to distance itself from the fatally flawed test as a growing number of lawsuits are processing through the courts exposing the insanity of relying on a test that even the inventor, Professor Kary B. Mullis, said was never designed to diagnose diseases. 

Worth reading in full.

Will it make a difference to how the test is used? We’ll have to wait and see.

A Reminder of What Makes Us Human

A reader has written to tell us about how moved he was at a “Covid” funeral recently.

On Thursday this last week the funeral of a neighbour was held in our village. He was 60 and had battled with leukaemia for 18 months, leaving a wife and two children. The last straw for him was being infected with COVID-19 by another patient in his hospital ward. He discharged himself and came home to die in peace from the leukaemia which he did a few days later. Of course it went down as a Covid death. Why wouldn’t it?

The point is that although the normal 30 maximum only were allowed to the church our village was swamped from one end to the other with dozens and dozens of mourners who had turned up to pay their respects by lining the street. They had all dressed as if they had been allowed to enter the church for the service, many arriving an hour or more early to stand in the cold wind. I stood there with them.

It was a remarkable sight and an honourable pay-off to a popular man. It showed me that the powerful human need to participate in important cultural and social rituals is still there, especially those that sit at the heart of our society and community. That’s in spite of the Government’s misguided belief that we can be denied all these without destroying the essence of what we are and for the sake of one very narrow perception of what life amounts to. 

Lord Gumption Strikes Again

Lord Jonathan Sumption

Former Supreme Court Justice Lord Jonathan Sumption has written a searing piece in the Telegraph pointing out what should be obvious by now, but isn’t to our Government and its blinkered scientific advisers: that lockdowns don’t work.

Looking at Europe and North America, two things occur. The first is that the virus has become endemic. The consensus of epidemiologists is that the vaccine will mitigate its impact but will not suppress it. The second is that the progress of the virus once it becomes endemic is broadly the same in populous countries, regardless of the policies of their governments. There have been savage lockdowns, as in Spain, which put the army on the streets to stop people going out, even for exercise. There have been purely advisory regimes, like Sweden’s.

Between these extremes there has been every possible variant. Some people, like the British, are said to be temperamentally resistant to being told what to do while others, like the Swedes or the Germans, are thought to be naturally compliant. The common factor is that they have failed. The Prime Minister’s extravagant rhetoric (“wrestling the disease to the ground”, etc.) sounds increasingly ridiculous.

Even with a vaccine as our exit route, this ought to make us pause before we start calling for more of a policy that has so demonstrably failed. Logically, there are only two possible explanations for its failure.

One is that the virus is more potent than governments. It may be that even the minimum of human interaction is enough to defeat the policy. In London, infections actually went up in the second lockdown. The other is that, whatever we do, the basic instincts of humanity, which is fundamentally sociable, will reassert themselves.

Governments and laws operate in a human environment. A policy that only works by suppressing our humanity is unlikely to work at all. Life is risky. A policy that seeks to eliminate risk ends up trying to eliminate life. We have to re-examine the whole concept that governments can simply turn social existence on and off at will, treating us as passive instruments of state policy.

This is not just a practical problem. It is a moral problem. What moral right does the state have to expect us to forswear our humanity to achieve its objectives, however admirable?

The central problem is expecting the healthy and low-risk majority to sacrifice so much, in many cases even their lives through missed medical care or suicide, for a vulnerable minority who could, if they wished and with some assistance, shield themselves.

COVID-19 is a serious threat to life and health for certain people: those over 65 and/or with identifiable clinical vulnerabilities.

Encouraging the vulnerable to isolate themselves speaks to their instinct for self-preservation. It goes with the grain of human nature. It is also rational – the onus should surely be on those most at risk to modify their way of life so as to limit that risk.

Ordering the young and healthy to isolate so as to avoid infecting the vulnerable, when the great majority of the vulnerable can keep themselves out of harm’s way if they wish, is not rational, conflicts with every instinct of social animals and defies human nature. Worse than that, it is morally disreputable. If you doubt me, then pause to think about the damage all this is inflicting on the young.

They are at virtually no risk of dying or even becoming seriously ill. “Long Covid” affects a small number and is not mortal. Yet the young and economically active are bearing the brunt of the Government’s measures. They are seeing their careers and job prospects destroyed before their eyes. We will get over COVID-19 eventually. Many of them will never get over the long-term effects of the countermeasures.

Some call this approach selfish. But Lord Sumption is having none of it. “The real selfishness,” he says, “is the selfishness of those who are willing to inflict all of these disasters on other people in the hope of enhancing their own security.”

Worth reading in full.

Liars, Fakers, and the Seductive Texture Of Authoritarianism

Matt Hancock Pinocchio

We’re publishing an original article today by philosopher Sean Walsh who thinks the people running the show in the UK are worse than liars – they’re fakers. Here’s the opening section:

In 1986 the philosopher Harry Frankfurt wrote an article called ‘On Bullshit‘ in which he pointed out that there is an epistemological and therefore morally significant difference between lying and faking. When you lie, he argued, you inadvertently disclose that you have some concern for the truth. To fake, on the other hand, is to reach for whatever bullshit you can spout in service of your desired end.

This lack of concern for truth is what makes the chancer worse than the liar. The faker, having lost any interest in separating the true from the false, will inevitably end up deceiving himself. He has no skin in the game. The liar is at least theoretically capable of being brought to book; the faker is beyond help. His world is fundamentally distorted.

The histrionic response to COVID-19 has shown that we are presided over by a Lockdown Sanhedrin, the High Priests of which are all fakers. These are not dispassionate and objective observers of “the science”, because science, properly done, eschews fakery. They are people trapped in the addiction of authoritarianism. And self-deception is a driver of that pathology. There is a bewildering disparity between the ‘data’ they offer us and the homily they compose from it. When you acquire the habit of lying to yourself you end up not being able to spot when you look ridiculous to other people.

And this is what’s happened.

Worth reading in full.

Nominate Toby For the Contrarian Prize 2021!

The Contrarian Prize trophy

He didn’t ask me to write this. The Contrarian Prize 2021 will be awarded to a figure in British public life who has demonstrated independence, courage, sacrifice and whose ideas have challenged the status quo. Which has Toby Young written all over it. Nominations close on December 31st. Submit nominations (and find out more) here.

You can also watch the the Contrarian Prize lecture – this year an online conversation between Katharine Birbalsingh and Chairman of the judges panel Ali Miraj – here.

Round-up

  • “We need to know how many lives lockdown is destroying” – Mark Harper and Steve Baker of the CRG in the Mail on Sunday once more demand a proper, evidence-based cost-benefit analysis of the extreme measures the Government continues to impose (although worth noting that they didn’t sign off on this version and have directed their followers on Twitter to this version)
  • “Rail chaos as Londoners scramble to leave Tier 4” – The Telegraph reports on the flight from the lockdowns, while Nicola Sturgeon gets the Christmas present she’s always wanted: a policed border with England. Who knew Santa was a Scottish Nat?
  • “Trump tells Boris Johnson ‘cure can’t be worse than problem itself’” – The fundamental point Boris and his advisers have never managed to grasp, in the Telegraph
  • “Lockdowns Do Not Control the Coronavirus: The Evidence” – Handy summary on AIER of 24 studies and articles that demonstrate the lockdown experiments of 2020 have failed
  • “How Belarus Exposes the Lockdown Lie” – Rachel Allen in OffGuardian on the conspicuous absence of apocalypse in Europe’s freest country
  • “Evidence of asymptomatic spread is insufficient to justify mass testing for COVID-19” – Dr Clare Craig and Dr Jonathan Engler’s excellent Lockdown Sceptics piece from yesterday makes an appearance in letter form in the BMJ
  • “COVID-19 ‘dramatically worsened’ lives of migrants and refugees, says WHO” – Surely the Left will start caring now? Then again…
  • “Donald Trump could lift UK travel ban as early as next week” – A somewhat incongruous good news story in the Telegraph
  • “Civil liberties threatened by COVID-19” – James Black in Bournbrook says the right to protest and individual expression are jeopardised when public debate is awash with fearmongering and hysteria
  • “The year the world went mad” – The spiked podcast team reflect on lockdown, the rise of Black Lives Matter, and the prospects for populism in an end-of-year special
  • “Our drastic Covid response reflects the state’s new moral duty to end death” – Janet Daley in the Telegraph gets to the heart of the matter, arguing that perhaps the reason we have “never done this before, is simply that it has never been possible before”
  • “Being bossed around has infantilised us all” – Matthew Parris in the Times penned some premature praise for Boris yesterday morning that was out of date by the afternoon
  • “The Irish Lockdown Illusion” – The Swiss Doctor busts the myth of another supposedly effective lockdown where infections were in fact already declining before measures came in
  • “If face masks really stop Covid, then why are so many of us still catching it?” – Ethan Ennals asks the awkward question in the Mail
  • “Coronavirus South Australia: COVID-19 ‘super strain’ claims rubbished by experts” – The Sydney Morning Herald reports that the claim that New South Wales is being menaced by a “super strain” has already been debunked
  • “Boozing up by 50% since first Covid lockdown” – The Sunday Times reports that we’re all drinking more this year. Doesn’t this fall into ‘Dog Bites Man’ territory?
  • “‘There isn’t a word for how angry I feel’” – The Sunday Telegraph has a nice spread of letters from readers reacting to Boris’s latest U-turn
  • “New York restaurants ban Governor Cuomo: ‘He can eat at some sh*tty roadside diner outside of Albany’” – The Post-Millennial reports on the hatred for the Lockdown Mayor among New York City’s restaurateurs
  • “Merry? No, this year we need an Angry Christmas!” – Peter Hitchens’s latest column in the Mail on Sunday
  • “London protests: 27 arrests as police break up anti-lockdown demonstration” – The TSG was out in force to police a peaceful demonstration in London yesterday, making 27 unnecessary arrests

Leaked image of tier 10 😳 pic.twitter.com/MavC0H1A0y

— Bills-eh (@StokeMatt_) December 19, 2020

Theme Tunes Suggested by Readers

Seven today: “What a Difference a Day Makes” by Dinah Washington, “It’s Freaking Me Out” by Eli Parker, “Free The People” by the Dubliners, “Spreading the disease” by Queensrych, “Christmas is Cancelled” by The Long Blondes, “I Wish It Could Be Christmas Everyday” by Wizzard and “Lonely This Christmas” by Elvis Presley.

A reader commented: “Sadly, Elvis never recorded ‘When will this f**ing insanity end'”. On the plus side, you can listed to Media Bear singing ‘F@uci the Con-Man’ here.

Love in the Time of Covid

We have created some Lockdown Sceptics Forums, including a dating forum called “Love in a Covid Climate” that has attracted a bit of attention. We have a team of moderators in place to remove spam and deal with the trolls, but sometimes it takes a little while so please bear with us. You have to register to use the Forums, but that should just be a one-time thing. Any problems, email the Lockdown Sceptics webmaster Ian Rons here.

Sharing Stories

Some of you have asked how to link to particular stories on Lockdown Sceptics so you can share it. To do that, click on the headline of a particular story and a link symbol will appear on the right-hand side of the headline. Click on the link and the URL of your page will switch to the URL of that particular story. You can then copy that URL and either email it to your friends or post it on social media. Please do share the stories.

Social Media Accounts

You can follow Lockdown Sceptics on our social media accounts which are updated throughout the day. To follow us on Facebook, click here; to follow us on Twitter, click here; to follow us on Instagram, click here; to follow us on Parler, click here; and to follow us on MeWe, click here.

Woke Gobbledegook

We’ve decided to create a permanent slot down here for woke gobbledegook. Today, it’s the turn of the Dalton School, an exclusive fee-paying establishment in New York which is being eaten by its own woke ideology and the activists it breeds. Scott Johnston on the Naked Dollar blog site has the exclusive. The immediate issue the school’s facing is that the staff have refused to reopen on the grounds that reopening during the pandemic is “racist” – something to do with the black and brown teachers having longer commutes than the white teachers and therefore being more likely to catch the virus. But the problems run much deeper than that.

Over one hundred faculty have taken the opportunity to issue a lengthy set of racially-based demands that are breathtaking in their wokeness. Black students have added their own demands. 

These demands, which have been obtained exclusively by the Naked Dollar, go on for eight pages, and have as their underlying assumption that Dalton is systemically racist. Dalton’s teachers are refusing to come back until they are met. Parents are in an uproar, some threatening to remove their children. Major donors are said to be balking. The board, filled with New York movers and shakers, is in turmoil. The Naked Dollar has learned they have contracted an outside consulting firm to advise on handling the crisis.

Here is a sample of the demands:

  • The hiring of twelve (!) full time diversity officers
  • An additional full time employee whose “entire role is to support Black students who come forward with complaints.”
  • Hiring of multiple psychologists with “specialization on the psychological issues affecting ethnic minority populations.”
  • Pay off student debt of incoming black faculty
  • Re-route 50% of all donations to NYC public schools
  • Elimination of AP courses if black students don’t score as high as white
  • Required courses on “Black liberation”
  • Reduced tuition for black students whose photographs appear in school promotional materials
  • Public “anti-racism” statements required from all employees
  • Mandatory “Community and Diversity Days” to be held “throughout the year”
  • Required anti-bias training to be conducted every year for all staff and parent volunteers
  • Mandatory minority representation in (otherwise elective) student leadership roles
  • Mandatory diversity plot lines in school plays
  • Overhaul of entire curriculum to reflect diversity narratives

These won’t come cheap.

The demands for additional staffers alone would add millions of dollars to Dalton’s annual budget. Siphoning off 50% of donations would dry up funding. Eliminating AP classes (referred to as “levelled courses”) would destroy college admissions. It’s not an exaggeration to say these demands, if implemented, would destroy Dalton altogether. According to insiders, much damage has already been done.

What you may not know is that Dalton has long been one of the most progressive schools in the country. They have actively encouraged the sort of thinking that is now biting them in the ass. And the obvious irony is that if Dalton is “systemically racist,” a belief they themselves promote, it is progressives who bear the responsibility.

Once again: go woke, go broke.

Worth reading in full.

“Mask Exempt” Lanyards

We’ve created a one-stop shop down here for people who want to buy (or make) a “Mask Exempt” lanyard/card. You can print out and laminate a fairly standard one for free here and it has the advantage of not explicitly claiming you have a disability. But if you have no qualms about that (or you are disabled), you can buy a lanyard from Amazon saying you do have a disability/medical exemption here (takes a while to arrive). The Government has instructions on how to download an official “Mask Exempt” notice to put on your phone here. You can get a “Hidden Disability” tag from ebay here and an “exempt” card with lanyard for just £1.99 from Etsy here. And, finally, if you feel obliged to wear a mask but want to signal your disapproval of having to do so, you can get a “sexy world” mask with the Swedish flag on it here.

Don’t forget to sign the petition on the UK Government’s petitions website calling for an end to mandatory face masks in shops here.

A reader has started a website that contains some useful guidance about how you can claim legal exemption. Another reader has created an Android app which displays “I am exempt from wearing a face mask” on your phone. Only 99p, and he’s even said he’ll donate half the money to Lockdown Sceptics, so everyone wins.

If you’re a shop owner and you want to let your customers know you will not be insisting on face masks or asking them what their reasons for exemption are, you can download a friendly sign to stick in your window here.

And here’s an excellent piece about the ineffectiveness of masks by a Roger W. Koops, who has a doctorate in organic chemistry. See also the Swiss Doctor’s thorough review of the scientific evidence here.

The Great Barrington Declaration

Professor Martin Kulldorff, Professor Sunetra Gupta and Professor Jay Bhattacharya

The Great Barrington Declaration, a petition started by Professor Martin Kulldorff, Professor Sunetra Gupta and Professor Jay Bhattacharya calling for a strategy of “Focused Protection” (protect the elderly and the vulnerable and let everyone else get on with life), was launched in October and the lockdown zealots have been doing their best to discredit it ever since. If you googled it a week after launch, the top hits were three smear pieces from the Guardian, including: “Herd immunity letter signed by fake experts including ‘Dr Johnny Bananas’.” (Freddie Sayers at UnHerd warned us about this the day before it appeared.) On the bright side, Google UK has stopped shadow banning it, so the actual Declaration now tops the search results – and Toby’s Spectator piece about the attempt to suppress it is among the top hits – although discussion of it has been censored by Reddit. The reason the zealots hate it, of course, is that it gives the lie to their claim that “the science” only supports their strategy. These three scientists are every bit as eminent – more eminent – than the pro-lockdown fanatics so expect no let up in the attacks. (Wikipedia has also done a smear job.)

You can find it here. Please sign it. Now over three quarters of a million signatures.

Update: The authors of the GDB have expanded the FAQs to deal with some of the arguments and smears that have been made against their proposal. Worth reading in full.

Update 2: Many of the signatories of the Great Barrington Declaration are involved with new UK anti-lockdown campaign Recovery. Find out more and join here.

Update 3: You can watch Sunetra Gupta set out the case for “Focused Protection” here and Jay Bhattacharya make it here.

Update 4: The three GBD authors plus Prof Carl Heneghan of CEBM have launched a new website collateralglobal.org, “a global repository for research into the collateral effects of the COVID-19 lockdown measures”. Follow Collateral Global on Twitter here.

Judicial Reviews Against the Government

There are now so many JRs being brought against the Government and its ministers, we thought we’d include them all in one place down here.

First, there’s the Simon Dolan case. You can see all the latest updates and contribute to that cause here. Alas, he’s now reached the end of the road, with the Supreme Court’s refusal to hear his appeal. Dolan has no regrets. “We forced SAGE to produce its minutes, got the Government to concede it had not lawfully shut schools, and lit the fire on scrutinizing data and information,” he says. “We also believe our findings and evidence, while not considered properly by the judges, will be of use in the inevitable public inquires which will follow and will help history judge the PM, Matt Hancock and their advisers in the light that they deserve.”

Then there’s the Robin Tilbrook case. You can read about that and contribute here.

Then there’s John’s Campaign which is focused specifically on care homes. Find out more about that here.

There’s the GoodLawProject’s Judicial Review of the Government’s award of lucrative PPE contracts to various private companies. You can find out more about that here and contribute to the crowdfunder here.

The Night Time Industries Association has instructed lawyers to JR any further restrictions on restaurants, pubs and bars.

And last but not least there’s the Free Speech Union‘s challenge to Ofcom over its ‘coronavirus guidance’. A High Court judge refused permission for the FSU’s judicial review last week and the FSU has decided not to appeal the decision. Check here for more.

Samaritans

If you are struggling to cope, please call Samaritans for free on 116 123 (UK and ROI), email jo@samaritans.org or visit the Samaritans website to find details of your nearest branch. Samaritans is available round the clock, every single day of the year, providing a safe place for anyone struggling to cope, whoever they are, however they feel, whatever life has done to them.

Quotation Corner

We know they are lying. They know they are lying, They know that we know they are lying. We know that they know that we know they are lying. And still they continue to lie.

Alexander Solzhenitsyn

It’s easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.

Mark Twain

Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, one by one.

Charles Mackay

They who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

Benjamin Franklin

To do evil a human being must first of all believe that what he’s doing is good, or else that it’s a well-considered act in conformity with natural law. Fortunately, it is in the nature of the human being to seek a justification for his actions…

Ideology – that is what gives the evildoing its long-sought justification and gives the evildoer the necessary steadfastness and determination.

Alexander Solzhenitsyn

No lesson seems to be so deeply inculcated by the experience of life as that you never should trust experts. If you believe the doctors, nothing is wholesome: if you believe the theologians, nothing is innocent: if you believe the soldiers, nothing is safe. They all require to have their strong wine diluted by a very large admixture of insipid common sense.

Robert Gascoyne-Cecil, 3rd Marquess of Salisbury

Nothing would be more fatal than for the Government of States to get into the hands of experts. Expert knowledge is limited knowledge and the unlimited ignorance of the plain man, who knows where it hurts, is a safer guide than any rigorous direction of a specialist.

Sir Winston Churchill

If it disagrees with experiment, it’s wrong. In that simple statement is the key to science.

Richard Feynman

Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

C.S. Lewis

The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants.

Albert Camus

We’ve arranged a global civilization in which most crucial elements profoundly depend on science and technology. We have also arranged things so that almost no one understands science and technology. This is a prescription for disaster. We might get away with it for a while, but sooner or later this combustible mixture of ignorance and power is going to blow up in our faces.

Carl Sagan

Political language – and with variations this is true of all political parties, from Conservatives to Anarchists – is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind.

George Orwell

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane.

Marcus Aurelius

Necessity is the plea for every restriction of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.

William Pitt the Younger

If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.

Joseph Goebbels (attributed)

The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary.

H.L. Mencken

I have always strenuously supported the right of every man to his own opinion, however different that opinion might be to mine. He who denies to another this right, makes a slave of himself to his present opinion, because he precludes himself the right of changing it.

Thomas Paine

Shameless Begging Bit

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And Finally…

A number of readers have told us they’re really enjoying Eric Clapton and Van Morrison’s new anti-lockdown song “Stand and Deliver”. Listen to it here. You can also hear Van Morrison’s other lockdown songs “No More Lockdown” here, “As I Walked Out” here and “Born To Be Free” here.

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Zoothornrollo
Zoothornrollo
5 years ago

Boom!

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PWL
PWL
5 years ago

Boris doesn’t cancel anything. You choose to comply, or not.

Action To End The Interminable Unlawful Lockdown

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Hugh
Hugh
5 years ago
Reply to  PWL

As Christ Himself would say, “Do not be afraid!”

We shall not be moved.

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Sir Patrick Vaccine
Sir Patrick Vaccine
5 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Heloo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAEF99EqpOA
Are We Being Played?… Lockdown 3 – The Madness Continues
Godfrey Bloom Official

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Sir Patrick Vaccine
Sir Patrick Vaccine
5 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Dear hugh
Matt Hancock Supports the Great Reset | Weekend Podcast #8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wekfstd5hXY

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters

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Will
Will
5 years ago
Reply to  PWL

Unfortunately some of us simply don’t have that option because of the jobs we do and the places we live. If I could ignore all this nonsense I would but it might involve us losing our home and livelihood.

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IanE
IanE
5 years ago
Reply to  Will

And just wait till they bring in the Ministry of Love.

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J4mes
J4mes
5 years ago
Reply to  Will

I’m in the same boat, Will, so at the first sign of this scamdemic (I knew it was a hoax from the beginning) I started branching out, trying to look for alternative employment – ideally self-employment. It’s important to realise this is tyranny and we’re not returning to life as it was before, so we have to quickly adapt.

I’ve started a horticulture course online and am currently building a portfolio for self-employment. Part of the reason I am learning horticulture is because I fear at some point in the future, food may be difficult to obtain while also becoming increasingly expensive.

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Rowan
Rowan
5 years ago
Reply to  Will

If you don’t start to fight back then the system will overwhelm us all, we really have no choice.

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Sir Patrick Vaccine
Sir Patrick Vaccine
5 years ago
Reply to  Will

Met Police Fed Chairman States Tier 4 Rules Are Nonsense & They Won’t Be knocking Doors To Check
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DFGHiNoul8

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Llamasaurus Rex
Llamasaurus Rex
5 years ago
Reply to  Will

solidarity, friend.

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mattghg
mattghg
5 years ago
Reply to  PWL

In this case it takes two parties to agree not to comply. I’m willing to carry on with my Christmas plans but my parents aren’t having it.

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Dorian_Hawkmoon
Dorian_Hawkmoon
5 years ago
Reply to  mattghg

Yes, mattghg. That’s my experience. I’m indifferent to it all but no-one wants to play.

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Rowan
Rowan
5 years ago
Reply to  mattghg

Then they deserve the Christmas they will get.

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richard riewer
richard riewer
5 years ago
Reply to  mattghg

Pelt #10 Downing Street with Easter eggsé

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J4mes
J4mes
5 years ago
Reply to  PWL

Excellent link, thank you.

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Dan Clarke
Dan Clarke
5 years ago
Reply to  PWL

Exactly, I choose, not

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Sir Patrick Vaccine
Sir Patrick Vaccine
5 years ago
Reply to  PWL

Sir Charles Walker Calls Out Matt Hancock On The BBC As The Host Does His Best To Run Damage Control
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-ZHpaGiIBc

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Ovis
Ovis
5 years ago

This is not so different from what many of us wanted – the regime has opposed itself to Christmas. Surely, we thought, that would be the end because everyone will just defy the ‘rules.’

But it doesn’t look like that, because people are falling for the confected complexity of tiers and kafkaesque ‘rules.’ Instead of seeing the simple choice of comply or ignore, people – including on here – are straining their brains at minutiae and technicalities. And that is what all this confected complexity is for. It sucks us in. Clouds the issue. There’s no need or logic, even on its own terms, for the ‘system.’ It’s just smoke on bees. But effective in that function.

Comply or don’t comply. That is all.

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J4mes
J4mes
5 years ago
Reply to  Ovis

I agree whole-heartedly, but to not comply takes more than your own household to revolt. If your family and friends spend their lives watching BBC and Sky News, then you’ve got no choice but to inadvertently comply because you won’t be welcome round at their house (cell) for Christmas.

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Rowan
Rowan
5 years ago
Reply to  J4mes

You’re looking for an excuse and why would anyone want to be in a house full of Covid zealots. Go for a long walk instead.

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J4mes
J4mes
5 years ago
Reply to  Rowan

An excuse for what exactly? Let me try to be clear if I wasnt before: if you’re not welcome round at someone’s house because they’re scared of this phantom virus, you can’t exactly gate crash their home. And no, a walk with them instead is simply ignoring the problem. If this same scenario plays out for everyone in your immediate family and friend circle, how do we respond?

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Yawnyaman
Yawnyaman
5 years ago
Reply to  J4mes

Agreed, this is not easy. Any widespread challenge begins with rule bending rather than breaking, I think

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Rowan
Rowan
5 years ago
Reply to  Ovis

There isn’t really a choice, the system is still coming for you, even if you comply. It is time to say no to senseless restrictions, useless testing and very dodgy vaccines.

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richard riewer
richard riewer
5 years ago
Reply to  Rowan

Dodgy? They are worse than dodgy.

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Rowan
Rowan
5 years ago
Reply to  richard riewer

You have a very good point. Intentionally genocidal, will likely be a much more fitting description.

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charleyfarley
charleyfarley
5 years ago
Reply to  Rowan

I think this is true. The more freedom people give up without a fight the more the government will take. Unless we push back soon in some very effective way we will be heading towards whatever is the modern equivalent of the Gulag.

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Digital Nomad
Digital Nomad
5 years ago
Reply to  Rowan

Experimental vaccine. Not a pedantic correction but a factual one.

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Rowan
Rowan
5 years ago
Reply to  Digital Nomad

Dodgy and experimental are of course, not mutually exclusive. I am though, often a lot more forthright in my description of the highly experimental, liability free, and intentionally lethal Covid-19 vaccines. Dodgy may sometimes be enough, on this knowledgeable site, but clearly that was not the case this time.

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CovidiousAlbion
CovidiousAlbion
5 years ago
Reply to  Digital Nomad

Look up “vaccine” in a dictionary that doesn’t do Newspeak, and you’ll find the Pfizer jab isn’t actually a vaccine. It is, in fact, a genetically-engineered biological agent.

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Ben
Ben
5 years ago
Reply to  Ovis

Some people are afraid of being fined by police. The anxiety pushes people to behave in a way they wouldn’t normally. There is also the Goebbelsian media threatening to name and shame rule breakers

But I know a pro-lockdown family who are breaking the rules at Christmas. They’ve spent money on food and travel arrangements and they might never see an elderly relative again, so they’re taking the chance. They chose humanity over Gov’t inhumanity

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SweetBabyCheeses
SweetBabyCheeses
5 years ago
Reply to  Ben

Being fined by the Police is also a choice. You don’t have to accept a FPN and can instead opt to have your case heard at Magistrates Court. I doubt very much that the CPS will ever prosecute. They were incredibly overworked already.

The best course of action would just be to stay silent. They’d need a lot more to actually arrest you. They’re afraid of wrongful arrest too as it’s humiliating for them if your detention isn’t authorised by the custody sergeant and it’s around £40k compensation for 24 hours of wrongful incarceration.

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RichardJames
RichardJames
5 years ago
Reply to  SweetBabyCheeses

Even an unlawful arrest and search is worth about £3K. You must also push hard for a disciplinary action, if the arresting officer makes any mistakes at all, which they normally do.

Check YouTube for the procedures and advice.

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Ben
Ben
5 years ago
Reply to  SweetBabyCheeses

The Law or Fiction Twitter site is pretty useless. I saw someone asking this same question on it – what if the police stop you? No answer

There’s no clear information and advice. People don’t know their rights or where they stand.

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Rowan
Rowan
5 years ago
Reply to  Ben

The “rules” should be ignored. In the unlikely even that fines will be issued then refuse to accept them and demand the case be heard in court.

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richard riewer
richard riewer
5 years ago
Reply to  Ovis

Do Not Comply. Boris and co can take a hike. Do not feed the Beast.

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Hopeful
Hopeful
5 years ago
Reply to  Ovis

Yes people are being distracted, wasting energy trying to knit cotton wool so to speak, instead of focusing on and sticking to what you point out as being the main issue namely, comply or don’t. There were several comments on here a few weeks ago from people saying how they avoid going to shops and places because of the masks. Some mentioned wearing a mask because they don’t like confrontation, being stared at, or feel too uncomfortable being the lone non-masker. As this tyranny gathers more pace perhaps it’s time even the most timid sceptic stepped up and literally put on a brave face, and actually demonstrated some non-compliance. I’ll save the bother of challenging me on this for from the get-go I have not worn a mask. I’ve been the only bare face in a busy supermarket. I have been challenged all of 3 times. No shouting, no screaming, no police. I have my words ready in my head. I am aged over 70. I will not be told what to do, where to stand, sit and all the rest of the crap. I have read articles and papers on covid and covid related matters. I’ve listened to podcasts,… Read more »

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ColoradoGirl
ColoradoGirl
5 years ago
Reply to  Hopeful

You are a hero!

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Rowan
Rowan
5 years ago
Reply to  ColoradoGirl

I too am on the wrong side of seventy, though it may now be the right side, the way things are going. Like your good self, I have refused to mask up since the very outset of this unscientific and demeaning imposition. Those that wear masks for an easy life are making the situation worse and are encouraging the government to further heights of folly.

Mask compliance in shops is usually high, but I was heartened on Friday evening, when shopping in a local supermarket, as mine was only one of about a dozen bare faces. Smiles were exchanged with several of these uncowed people. Perhaps it was just a blip, but still very welcome, all the same.

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sam
sam
5 years ago
Reply to  Hopeful

i will try again at the store that told me my scarf was too thin [ mesh ]

isntead of ordering food to be delivered i will c all first that original store and say i found one store that will let you shop without a mask if you come inside and they will get it for you and you can pay wiht out wearing a mask at all.. the first place i asked today can i shop here without a mask? said no .

[ i said i w ant to patronise stores where you can shop with out a mask .] fir the 2nd one said yes ! i couldnt believe it ! the first time have tried my new system was jus t today . it s a start i figure .

is true we need to rebel . i will start .i never ever have worn a mask going out for walks even though often i am the only one besides a few so thats been my small rebellion from the very start back in march whatever year it was

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Nobody2021
Nobody2021
5 years ago

Belarus is the control…
How Belarus Exposes the Lockdown Lie
https://off-guardian.org/2020/12/19/how-belarus-exposes-the-lockdown-lie/

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Hugh
Hugh
5 years ago
Reply to  Nobody2021

This has got to form a part of Nuremberg mark II where we will hopefully find out how many of them knew this and chose to ignore it.

Presumably, this means that restrictions on attending sporting events should cease forthwtht, and that total bans on paying spectators in places like London are completely unjustified?

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Nigel Sherratt
Nigel Sherratt
5 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

We sceptics will be the ones on trial once the climate trials finish and the guilty have been dispatched. I won’t make it past that stage. Greta will have the Makarov no doubt. Surely a human rights violation to have the Doom Goblin the last thing one sees.

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Dorian_Hawkmoon
Dorian_Hawkmoon
5 years ago
Reply to  Nigel Sherratt

Certainly a risk if the Woke gains from a covid backlash like in the US, NS. We ain’t seen nothing yet. I don’t think people grasp how much actual acceleration there is happening.

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Rowan
Rowan
5 years ago
Reply to  Dorian_Hawkmoon

I agree that things are extremely serious with the pace now quickening and it looks like they are going for broke. The Covid scam is really about global depopulation, no other explanation begins to make sense.

Worrying about Christmas arrangements, is only meant to distract our attention away from the long predicted cull, which is now looming for us all, as we head into the new year.

Refuse to obey all Covid restrictions, actively protest, do not get tested and most importantly reject all Covid-19 vaccines, the main tool of the coming genocide.

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Dorian_Hawkmoon
Dorian_Hawkmoon
5 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

The Covidberg Trials. I hope to live to see them sat bunched up like in the well known photo. But they are fiendishly skilled at kicking cans down roads. In fact faking, bullying and kicking cans down roads are prety much the core competency set, with added cronyism.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
5 years ago
Reply to  Dorian_Hawkmoon

The scary thing that is always going to happen in two weeks time by when they have invented something else to worry us with.

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Rowan
Rowan
5 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Not just London, expand your horizons.

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RichardJames
RichardJames
5 years ago
Reply to  Nobody2021

The big, big smoking gun is that the President of Belarus came on TV and said to his people that he had “been told” to lockdown his country or he “wouldn’t be allowed to get the loans he wants”. The President went to Putin as thee sums were not large and Putin gave him the loans.

No lockdown. Anyone who thinks that there is no conspiracy, needs to think deeply about this.

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BuildVaccineTrust
BuildVaccineTrust
5 years ago

There is a major ethical problem with the vaccine release that isn’t being covered (and emails to lockdown skeptics go unanswered). This info is about the US, but the UK also isn’t telling people about a major risk factor: The Emergency Use Authorization for the Pfizer vaccine, and its briefing document for the review meeting, states there is an unknown risk of future vaccine enhanced disease (which includes other potential enhancement modes and not just antibody enhancement) after the initial immunity fades: https://www.fda.gov/media/144416/download “The Sponsor identified vaccine-associated enhanced disease including vaccine-associated enhanced respiratory disease as an important potential risk [….] risk of vaccine-enhanced disease over time, potentially associated with waning immunity, remains unknown and needs to be evaluated further in ongoing clinical trials and in observational studies that could be conducted following authorization and/or licensure.” i.e. the study simply hasn’t gone on long enough to see if people have sterilizing immunity producing the initial good results that fades, and then when people do actually get infections: the immune response they learned from the vaccine might lead to a worse case of covid-19. Hopefully not: but the trials just haven’t run long enough to demonstrate that. Yet the FDA isn’t telling patients… Read more »

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Hugh
Hugh
5 years ago
Reply to  BuildVaccineTrust

So just to be clear, are these vaccine trials as rigged and duplicitous as the ones for vitamin D that PHE etc. supported?

Presumably, media headlines should be more along the lines of “risky vaccine rushed out for those desperate enough to be guinea pigs” rather than “wonder vaccine arrives to save us all”?

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Cristi.Neagu
Cristi.Neagu
5 years ago
Reply to  BuildVaccineTrust

Is this a surprise after Bill Gates left 490,000 paralysed children in India in the wake of his polio vaccination campaign, making vaccine-strain polio more common these days than wild polio.

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malasdair
malasdair
5 years ago
Reply to  Cristi.Neagu

I believe that rumour was started by Kennedy and has been debunked…just to bring some balance to things.

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George L
George L
5 years ago
Reply to  malasdair

Debunked by who exactly???.. a representative of the BMG Foundation perhaps!.

Kennedy’s a lawyer, he’d know full well what actions could be taken against him for such a libel.

Oh, and by the way, the internet is/has being deep cleaned of Gates Indian debacle. I wonder why???

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richard riewer
richard riewer
5 years ago
Reply to  malasdair

Do not forget that Mr Gates wants vaccines for every man woman and child on Earth. Yearly, if necessary.

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RichardJames
RichardJames
5 years ago
Reply to  richard riewer

Gates has been slung out of parts of Africa and India, so he can’t exactly be flavour of the month.

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Bartleby
Bartleby
5 years ago

On the subject of the new strain, there’s a website resource which has been monitoring all of the strains which you can find here: https://nextstrain.org/ncov/europe?c=region&l=clock&m=div&s=England/CAMC-BF47F0/2020 You can hover over the strains that have developed – hopefully the link and settings I’ve posted will take you to the strains in Europe and at the top right you should find this VUI202012/01 that today’s blog talks about. You can also click on it to get more information. Here’s what it says: UK reports new variant, termed VUI 202012/01The United Kingdom reported a new variant, termed VUI 202012/01 (Variant Under Investigation, year 2020, month 12, variant 01). It was defined by multiple spike protein mutations (deletion 69-70, deletion 144-145, N501Y, A570D, D614G, P681H, T716I, S982A, D1118H). There are currently 24,746 viruses from the UK in GISAID EpiCoV with a collection date since 1. November. A small fraction of them, about 6% (all from clade GR) share several of these mutations. Based on evaluation of effect on virus structure and function, the most relevant might be N501Y (orange in Figure; host receptor and antibody binding, also reported at gisaid.org/spike) and the deletions (cyan in Figure) in positions contributing to potential spike surface variation (Y145del… Read more »

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Bungle
Bungle
5 years ago
Reply to  Bartleby

You are spot on, brother!

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p02099003
p02099003
5 years ago
Reply to  Bartleby

In essence you are correct. Speaking from a point of ignorance, this suggests that there are subtle changes to the antigen proteins. This would suggest that the immune response has to effectively restart with the innate system, Macrophages and other white cells in the tissues removing the new strain (which would be competing with previous strains to infect host cells), dendritic cells initiating T cell and B cell production. B cells create the antibodies. The adaptive immune system takes a few days to respond. Vaccines use either attenuated or inactive pathogens.

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Cecil B
Cecil B
5 years ago

They have been planning this for months

Let everyone spend their money and then cancel it

BASTARDS

How can a law be passed when parliament is not sitting?

More than enough evidence to have the pig dictator and his litter arrested

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Ben Shirley
Ben Shirley
5 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

I said in an e-mail to an American pen-friend back in July: “I forecast another lockdown before the end of the year, timed to undermine Christmas.”

Just saying, I called it.

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richard riewer
richard riewer
5 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

Cancel them.

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richard riewer
richard riewer
5 years ago
Reply to  richard riewer

Alll of them.

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Gerard Hurst
Gerard Hurst
5 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

Hmm. I have considered taking money out of current accounts. Who knows what ‘haircuts’ are round the corner? If enough did this, they would soon change their tune.

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Yawnyaman
Yawnyaman
5 years ago
Reply to  Gerard Hurst

Already, there is a huge movement to cash, scaring the Bank of England, as this is deemed to encourage money laundering and criminal finance..

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Hugh
Hugh
5 years ago

“Viruses evolve towards strains that are more transmissible but which cause mild or no disease”.

If this is the case with the new strain, what is their excuse? Will they ease restrictions tomorrow, and if not, why not?

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Will
Will
5 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

They are shitting themselves about their precious fucking vaccine.

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Nigel Sherratt
Nigel Sherratt
5 years ago

Relaxing by the European Ocean (old SA joke).

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chaos
chaos
5 years ago

Caught shopping yesterday evening after the pig dictator’s announcement. Mask pulled up high as if he really didn’t want to be recognised. Or he wears a mask like he claps or drinks water. Like how Wanksock sits.

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wendyk
wendyk
5 years ago
Reply to  chaos

Does he sleep in a coffin?

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annie
annie
5 years ago
Reply to  wendyk

Lead me to it, with a stake and a hammer.

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wendyk
wendyk
5 years ago
Reply to  annie

I’ll join you!

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richard riewer
richard riewer
5 years ago
Reply to  annie

Take Von Helsing with you.

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anon
anon
5 years ago
Reply to  wendyk

soon enough one might hope

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chaos
chaos
5 years ago

Out of interest.. anyone else got the 3 little birds by Bob Marley song stuck in their heads?

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anon
anon
5 years ago
Reply to  chaos

I have now!

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wendyk
wendyk
5 years ago

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55333205

I’m speechless! Chris Whitty mugs! Mugs buy mugs.

Meanwhile, here in joyous Sturgeonland: one day only, bring your own cutlery and celebrate safely , 2 metres apart, outside, in the pouring rain!

What utter, utter misery, madness and control creepery.

Local businesses forced to close, yet again, for 3 weeks from Boxing Day; how many will survive this latest assault?

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Hugh
Hugh
5 years ago
Reply to  wendyk

Wasn’t there a school in Scotland that forced children to stand outside in atrocious weather? What madness!

It’s going to be hell when the economic consequences of all this start to hit home.

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Robin
Robin
5 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

I don’t know about this school but there’s a GP practice in Exmouth that has its patients standing outside in the cold & wet before being allowed inside. That must make the sainted clinicians feel really good about how they’re protecting the NHS

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Richym99
Richym99
5 years ago
Reply to  Robin

I have waited outside mine for fifteen minutes recently, along with four otherx. The door is locked and you are only allowed in once the receptionist takes your temperature. When I was allowed in, ten minutes after my appointment time, the waiting area was empyy.

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Basics
Basics
5 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

This is not a single school. Its been in local press here and there. Parents making attempts to right the wrong. School banning coats in the classroom, children wearing them because its freezing literally and the windows are open. Something elsewhere about a child who was kept next to the open window despite complaining, etc. Risk assessments are a thing of the past. But then so is edication with the removal of exams as learning targets replaced by nothing. Scottish schools are going online in the new year with a staggered return, a staggered return just think on that for bollocks.

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Sodastream
Sodastream
5 years ago
Reply to  Basics

Secondary schools in England are doing the same staggering when they go back and learning online. Only year 11 going back after Xmas and no word when the rest go back yet.

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
5 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

There’s been loads of reports. There was one school who forced its students to eat their lunch in the pouring rain, another refused to let its students change out of their damp PE uniform and those are only the two I remember.

These schools should be charged with child abuse and closed down.

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Ken Gardner
Ken Gardner
5 years ago
Reply to  Bart Simpson

Why are the parents not battering down the door of the head teacher’s office?

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Spikedee1
Spikedee1
5 years ago
Reply to  Ken Gardner

Probably because they are so stupid they think this is the right thing to do to their kids.

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Borisbullshit
Borisbullshit
5 years ago
Reply to  Spikedee1

Glad I never had any kids….there would be a few battered teachers around.

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
5 years ago
Reply to  Ken Gardner

Good question. If I was a parent I would be marching to the school armed with an AK-47 or a machete.

Being shot or hacked to death is the least these head teachers deserve.

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Cheezilla
Cheezilla
5 years ago
Reply to  Ken Gardner

They need the babysitting so they can go to work to pay the rent!

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skybluesam
skybluesam
5 years ago
Reply to  wendyk

They actually call Chris witty “calm and reassuring” in that article. The mans a hysterical ninnie!

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chaos
chaos
5 years ago

If you pull down Boris’s trousers.. you’ll see his filthy philandering herpes-infected package pressing against his fat pants.

If you pull down Kier’s underpants, you find shiny hard plastic. Like a Barbie doll.

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Ovis
Ovis
5 years ago
Reply to  chaos

If you pull down Boris’s pants, you will see Keir Starmer’s phlanged out knee-taking legs emergent from from Boris’s arse. Starmer is Johnson’s ludicrous butt plug.

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dhid
dhid
5 years ago
Reply to  Ovis

Oooh er missus! As someone once said! LOL!

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
5 years ago
Reply to  chaos

Oh my eyes!!!! :O :O :O

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annie
annie
5 years ago

Awake at 4.30 in Belsen Wales, despite taking a sleeping pill.
Still quivering and shuddering with misery and rage.

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chaos
chaos
5 years ago
Reply to  annie

I can’t sleep either. Hang in there. Boris will be gone soon. And this unworkable madness will come to a halt.

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annie
annie
5 years ago
Reply to  chaos

I’llhang on.

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richard riewer
richard riewer
5 years ago
Reply to  chaos

Boris can easily be replaced. We need a Great Reset.

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Rowan
Rowan
5 years ago
Reply to  chaos

I’d like to think you are right, but it seems unlikely. This is a global scam and the hapless Johnson has only a bit part. Getting rid of Johnson is only a good first step, but by itself it won’t be anywhere near enough to stop the madness.

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Angryphon of Tunbridge Wells
Angryphon of Tunbridge Wells
5 years ago
Reply to  annie

Up all night in Wales albeit working sadly the drugs don’t work for me any longer.I lose myself late at night with the Devils lettuce with my mate Glen Mr fiddich.

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Chris John
Chris John
5 years ago
Reply to  Angryphon of Tunbridge Wells

Make THC tincture with your lettuces

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KBuchanan
KBuchanan
5 years ago
Reply to  annie

Same here in the South East , average 5 hours sleep most nights.

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TJN
TJN
5 years ago
Reply to  annie

God bless you Annie. Maybe He’s closer right now than ever, more so than in quieter times when all seemed well.

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Sara
Sara
5 years ago
Reply to  annie

The light shines in the darkness and the darkness has not understood it. (John 1,5)

We show that light in our humanity; our love for each other. Keep shining, everyone.

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Alethea
Alethea
5 years ago
Reply to  Sara

Thank you, Sara, that’s lovely.

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Dorian_Hawkmoon
Dorian_Hawkmoon
5 years ago
Reply to  Sara

I hadn’t heard that one, Sara. Thanks. It chimes with a taoist darkness not being understood by the light, where people do not understand how malicious world governments are being. But the light will prevail. We will all see the darkness for what it is.

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richard riewer
richard riewer
5 years ago
Reply to  Sara

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2opHHNFd0Mg
John Lennon Live Instant Karma

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PaulH
PaulH
5 years ago
Reply to  annie

Hugs, annie. Hang in there.

Good times pass and so do bad times – and tyrranical leaders.

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Dorian_Hawkmoon
Dorian_Hawkmoon
5 years ago
Reply to  annie

I often wake in the night now and always wake with a sense of having passed the night with a threatening presence above me. I try to armour myself each day but it is also exhausting to have to do so. Stay strong.

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Mutineer
Mutineer
5 years ago
Reply to  annie

Me, too. Never been so bloody angry. I could kill!!!!

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Cheshirecatslave
Cheshirecatslave
5 years ago
Reply to  annie

I’m muttering operatic curses under my breath. Ring Cycle fury!

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1stJamie
1stJamie
5 years ago

Couldn’t sleep.
Just read Prof Brookes guest post and while I agree with ‘the science’ that;
“This new variant (If it actually exists!) is most likely just an “asymptomatic variant”, i.e., a strain that causes no or very mild illness”
and;
“All viruses naturally evolve towards strains that are more transmissible but which cause mild or no disease”
HOWEVER I strongly disagree with what Brookes next states that;
“By lockdown and Test and Trace we have accelerated that natural process dramatically”
WHAT UTTER BOLLOCKS
How can asymptomatic transmission of a less deadly variant of a virus be accelerated unless you allow natural human interaction to occur, which we have successfully been doing for thousands of years?
We’ve just spent (well I haven’t) most of 2020 socially distancing ourselves. Lockdowns have delayed the natural aymptomatic tranmission of these less deadly variants throughout the summer months not acceleated.
Now I definitley won’t get back to sleep.
Did Toby?Will not proof read Prof Brookes thesis before posting?
Or have I misread it?

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maggie may
maggie may
5 years ago
Reply to  1stJamie

I didn’t understand that either! Would be nice to get some more detail on how that actually worked. (assuming it did)

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TJN
TJN
5 years ago
Reply to  1stJamie

Yes, that reads all wrong. By my understanding the lockdown crap actually retards the development and spread of lesser variants. John Lee wrote on this in The Spectator back in early May. https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/covids-metamorphosis-has-lockdown-made-the-virus-more-deadly Selected quotes: Covid-19 is caused by a single-stranded RNA virus, a type particularly susceptible to copying errors. So much so, in fact, that viruses of this group are often referred to as ‘quasi-species’ because they are so variable. It’s likely that some particles of this virus infect their victims with a slightly less severe form of Covid-19, making them less ill. And so, on average, those people will be more likely to continue with their normal daily activities outside of a lockdown, going to work or out shopping. In short, they will be more likely to spread the virus to others. … the particles that cause more severe Covid-19 disease will be spread less since the people who feel worse will circulate less. Hence the evolutionary effect: more severe versions of a new virus tend to decrease quite quickly over time, because the milder versions get spread around more. But change the circumstances — change the environment in which the virus exists — and it could go… Read more »

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Nigel Sherratt
Nigel Sherratt
5 years ago
Reply to  TJN

Interesting thanks, scratching my head at that bit in the article. Similar effect of lockdown making things worse for the vulnerable by increasing their relative mobility and impeding the growth of community immunity.

O, what a tangled web we weave …

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JanMasarykMunich
JanMasarykMunich
5 years ago
Reply to  1stJamie

That was certainly exactly my thought when I read it.

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helen
helen
5 years ago
Reply to  1stJamie

Professor Anthony Brookes, Professor of Bioinformatics and Genomics at Leicester.

Big data… Genomics… Bioinformatics … covid… vaccines…commonPass ????

£54 million funding to transform health through data science9 February 2018
Leicester is part of partnership bringing world-class expertise to benefit patients and populations (Adapted from a press release by Health Data Research UK)
Health Data Research UK is awarding £30 million funding to six sites across the UK – including Leicester – to address challenging healthcare issues through use of data science. 
https://www.leicestersresearch.nhs.uk/press-releases-old/54-million-funding/

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ajb97b
ajb97b
5 years ago
Reply to  1stJamie

I think I can explain Brookes’ statement that 
“By lockdown and Test and Trace we have accelerated that natural process dramatically”.

The “natural process” being “accelerated” is given in his preceding sentence, namely “All viruses naturally evolve towards strains that are more transmissible but which cause mild or no disease.”

Lockdown obviously retards the spread of the virus overall, but that will be proportionally have a far bigger effect on strains that do not transmit very efficiently. Such strains have a low “R” value, and so are more easily pushed to below 1 (i.e., they die out). Thus, lockdown gives a selective advantage to strains that “are more transmissible”, i.e., have far higher “R” values.

Likewise for Test and Trace. This suppression effort works by detecting symptomatic people and stopping them spreading whatever strain they contained, i.e., strains that cause symptoms. People carrying strains that do not cause symptoms will not be picked up by Test and Trace, and so those strains “which cause mild or no disease” will be given a relative selective advantage.

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Bungle
Bungle
5 years ago

Many Socialists support LS wholeheartedly so can you please stop talking about us in derogatory language. We are not ‘left’or ‘woke’; we are people committed to working together for the good of all. Language of the playground helps nobody. Thanks.

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1stJamie
1stJamie
5 years ago
Reply to  Bungle

I’ve never understood left or right wing arguments.
I thought there was just right and wrong.

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Biker
Biker
5 years ago
Reply to  1stJamie

Lol, who decides what is right and wrong?

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Chris John
Chris John
5 years ago
Reply to  Biker

The correct ines

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1stJamie
1stJamie
5 years ago
Reply to  Biker

Usually over a pint or open and reasoned debate where both sides are given the same amount of air time. Or we could just censor one side of the argument and win that way.

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richard riewer
richard riewer
5 years ago
Reply to  Biker

You?

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Hugh
Hugh
5 years ago
Reply to  Bungle

I’ve known socialists who are thoroughly decent people, and in fact, the party that my friend Teresa Smith (rip) stood for (a former Labour party member who got disillusioned with them post John Smith), is campaigning for an easing of current restrictions, and I’m sure there are many socialists who are appalled at the events of this year, and likewise the sellout of the Guardian and Labour to big pharma (seemingly).

Obviously, there are people from across the political (and philosophical and religious) spectrum who follow this website, and as such opinions on some matters will differ, but this is after all first and foremost an anti-lockdown site. Let’s try and come together a bit against a common (and very powerful) enemy, yeah? We don’t need anything remotely reminiscent of 77th brigade etc.

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Bella Donna
Bella Donna
5 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Whether your politics are right or left, I think we can all agree we are under attack from a common enemy, and for that reason we should all come together, we will be stronger if we do.

We are the many, they are few!

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Rowan
Rowan
5 years ago
Reply to  Bella Donna

Right or left is a deliberate distraction and stinks of the shameful 77th Brigade. The common enemy is government in all its many guises.

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charleyfarley
charleyfarley
5 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Well said. The loss of our freedoms is so fundamental that it transcends normal politics. When freedom is returned so can normal political life.

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ConstantBees
ConstantBees
5 years ago
Reply to  charleyfarley

Ah, I long for that day, although my former left-wing self died with the lockdowns. I’ll have to work out a new political identity. I’ve started reading all kinds of books by people from perspectives I never would have considered before.

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RyanM
RyanM
5 years ago
Reply to  Bungle

Problem here is that the covid “crisis” is an absolute dream come true for people who want to usher in socialism. If you disagree with this madness, you may not really be a socialist. I say that to a lot of my liberal friends. Do you want X? Do you want Y? Well… You may actually be a conservative. You just need to learn more about it.

Try Henry Hazlitt’s fantastic “Economics in One Lesson,” for a great book about why centralized planning will always fail miserably.

Try “The Gulag Archipelago” for why socialism leads to tyranny, slavery, and murder.

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LS99
LS99
5 years ago
Reply to  RyanM

I’ve been thinking about reading The Gulag Archipelago for a while and just clicked on Amazon to read some reviews. Here is a paragraph from one written in 2018:

” The problem with what we encounter in ‘The Gulag Archipelago’ is that it seems so extreme that we almost cannot identify with it. We think that it cannot possibly have any direct relevance to the West, and what is happening here.”

How quaint that sounds now.

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J4mes
J4mes
5 years ago
Reply to  LS99

I recommend it, just don’t buy it from Amazon, please.

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ConstantBees
ConstantBees
5 years ago
Reply to  LS99

I started reading it but it was hard going, not just because it sounded like our future to come.

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richard riewer
richard riewer
5 years ago
Reply to  RyanM

Oscar Wilde was a Socialist.

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John P
John P
5 years ago
Reply to  richard riewer

nobody’s perfect

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RyanM
RyanM
5 years ago
Reply to  richard riewer

I don’t hate him. But I’m not a fan. George Bernard Shaw was also a socialist.

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annie
annie
5 years ago
Reply to  Bungle

Hear, hear.
This is a battle of good against evil. We are on the side of good. Any other consideration is, for the moment, irrelevant.

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Fingerache Philip.
Fingerache Philip.
5 years ago
Reply to  Bungle

Well said, Bungle; I amongst many, many others saw police brutality against protesters in the 60’s.

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Nigel Sherratt
Nigel Sherratt
5 years ago
Reply to  Fingerache Philip.

I saw it in 2018, the tooled up goons itching for some action, but it didn’t make me a socialist.

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Rowan
Rowan
5 years ago
Reply to  Nigel Sherratt

Its’s about the corrupt government nothing else matters.

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dhid
dhid
5 years ago
Reply to  Fingerache Philip.

They were probably only “home grown” then, not imported for the purpose as has been alluded to elsewhere, before.

At my local airport (civilian) all week, a military type aircraft with unusual markings I don’t recall seeing before, but I couldn’t see clearly from the car as I drove past, has come and gone several times before the weekend.

I drove past a little earlier and it has gone. I suppose any imports for “service” would likely be brought in via military base.

Probably not connected, but it might be.

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Londo Mollari
Londo Mollari
5 years ago
Reply to  Bungle

I agree. There is a difference between the traditional Left and the new “woke” lot. I have thought for years that it is much easier to argue for “sexual rights” than get an employer to give workers a pay rise, but you can make the sexual stuff sound virtuous, better even than a mere rise in the amount of filthy lucre you get. I used to be a Lib Dem, proud of being anti war and then Nick Clegg and his crowd hijacked the party, became neo-liberal and pro-war, and pretended to be progressive by promoting gay marriage.

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TJN
TJN
5 years ago
Reply to  Bungle

This transcends left v. right. We are fighting for the privilege simply to have any such debate in future.

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richard riewer
richard riewer
5 years ago
Reply to  TJN

It’s not a privilege, it’s a right.

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Biker
Biker
5 years ago
Reply to  richard riewer

who decides on rights?

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TJN
TJN
5 years ago
Reply to  Biker

In the absence of Law, might is right.

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TJN
TJN
5 years ago
Reply to  richard riewer

Used to be a right. Not sure it is any more though. And our press and politicians don’t seem to care.

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TC
TC
5 years ago
Reply to  Bungle

Like Brexit,attitudes towards lockdown et al cut across party lines.
At the moment I think a true Trotskyist party might be a viable candidate for power in this country looking at the alternatives.
Is The Official Monster Raving Loony Party still going as they might get a shock next time and win some seats.
Agree with you that old rivalries be put aside for a common good – a bit like the Viet Minh fighting the Japanese and then back to fighting the French from certainly New Years Eve 1945 as my grandfather’s officer sold his small unit’s Sten guns on the black market in Saigon to buy booze for his men.

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JanMasarykMunich
JanMasarykMunich
5 years ago
Reply to  TC

I was under the impression that the The Monster Raving Loony Party are already running the country now…

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John P
John P
5 years ago
Reply to  JanMasarykMunich

No, they’d be doing a much better job.

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ConstantBees
ConstantBees
5 years ago
Reply to  John P

I’d like Lord Buckethead myself.

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Biker
Biker
5 years ago
Reply to  Bungle

I considered for a second there if i should mount a diatribe against socialism but what would be the point. We’re now living under it so we’ll see how it goes. By 2030 they’ve told us, no more property rights, no cars, no fossil fuels. You’ll get your wish.

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Nigel Sherratt
Nigel Sherratt
5 years ago
Reply to  Bungle

You’ll get it right one day, good luck!

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Newmill Mark
Newmill Mark
5 years ago
Reply to  Bungle

“A golden rule: we must judge men, not by their opinions, but by what these opinions make of them…” – Georg Christoph Lichtenberg

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J4mes
J4mes
5 years ago
Reply to  Bungle

I don’t think you do yourself any favours pigeon-holing yourself into a political label that only serves to divide people.

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ConstantBees
ConstantBees
5 years ago
Reply to  J4mes

I still consider myself to be on the left, but it’s more from force of habit, and because I like to think that decent people can be left wing as well. That certainly was true 60 years ago when I was a girl.

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ConstantBees
ConstantBees
5 years ago
Reply to  Bungle

If it’s any consolation, there are plenty of us on the left on this site. I agree the left-bashing does get tiresome. I go away for a while when the negativity starts to get to me. It does seem counterproductive to bash people who agree that lockdowns are horrific, regardless of our previous politics.

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RyanM
RyanM
5 years ago

“Ethan Ennals asks the awkward question in the Mail”

Asks the awkward question, and then leaves it totally unanswered as he goes on to say that “the evidence” still totally supports masks (basically, it’s your own fault for not wearing it right), and besides, what harm do they do?

Fuck that. But it’s the new state of “the science.” Ignore all evidence that doesn’t support your preferred policy…

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wendyk
wendyk
5 years ago
Reply to  RyanM

My thoughts exactly: sitting on the mask fence.

Incidentally, the maskademic is spreading rapidly here; now worn by most people in the open air.

Bonkers.

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Alan P
Alan P
5 years ago
Reply to  wendyk

Like bulbs of garlic to ward off vampires. Medieval Eastern European practices in a 21st century setting.

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Al C
Al C
5 years ago
Reply to  Alan P

Garlic far more effective vs viruses than masks!

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Ben
Ben
5 years ago
Reply to  Alan P

Freshly crushed garlic is extremely potent. It was known as natural penicillin in WW2 and was used when stocks of antibiotics ran out. The antibacterial and antiviral volatile compound allicin is activated when fresh garlic is physically damaged and stays potent for approx half an hour

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dhid
dhid
5 years ago
Reply to  Ben

And apart from the medicinal benefit, the eating of some garlic toast just before shopping, may ward off “Covidicus Marshalus” a modern plague.

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TC
TC
5 years ago
Reply to  RyanM

His argument is like the one about increasing police powers and increased surveillance in particular:”if you’ve done nothing wrong then you’ve nothing to worry about”.

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richard riewer
richard riewer
5 years ago
Reply to  TC

All the petty tyrants and authoritarians are crawling out of the wooodwork now.

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Edward
Edward
5 years ago
Reply to  TC

The short answer to that (preaching to the converted) is that you’ve got nothing to fear only if (a) the state is always benign, and (b) the state never makes mistakes.

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richard riewer
richard riewer
5 years ago
Reply to  RyanM

Science? Fuddle Duddle.

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chaos
chaos
5 years ago

Amazing how China is having no problems…..

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Elisabeth
Elisabeth
5 years ago
Reply to  chaos

or they are but just aren’t telling anyone. The CCP has no trouble letting dissidents or “spreaders of misinformation” (i.e. those telling the truth) just disappear.Who would really notice a few 100000 missing in a country of nearly 1.5 billion?

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Burlington
Burlington
5 years ago
Reply to  chaos

And by all accounts partying like its 1984!

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swedenborg
swedenborg
5 years ago
Reply to  chaos

Interesting article here about China’s manipulatin

Now in the NYThttps://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/19/technology/china-coronavirus-censorship.html
The essence of the article can be read here
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1340238064795303938.html

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Saved To Death
Saved To Death
5 years ago
Reply to  chaos

I think being under the occupation of the CCP is a pretty big problem.

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Ovis
Ovis
5 years ago
Reply to  chaos

The CCP is brutal but rational. They declared victory and stopped being silly. Exactly as Western countries should have done.

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Londo Mollari
Londo Mollari
5 years ago

I think comparisons of Boris (or Drakeford or Sturgeon) with Oliver Cromwell are misleading. The real parallel is with King Charles I, the King who waged war on his own people. The “man of blood,” as he was characterised in his day, and for which he was appropriately tried and punished.

How much blood is on the hands of our so-called leaders, and when will they be brought to account by anyone? The CRG and others are – so far at least – acting like the Petainists in Vichy France.

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annie
annie
5 years ago
Reply to  Londo Mollari

I agree.
Dungford is very like Charles I. Both wage merciless, murderous, treacherous war on their own people..Both are totally convinced that they can never be wrong and tnat the suffering they inflict in their bone-headed self-righteousness is the fault of the sufferers.
‘A king and a subject are two clean different things,’ said Charles on the scaffold. He never learned. If he’d lived to be a hundred, he’d still not have learned and he’d still have spread destruction and called it God’s will.
There are two differences. First, Charles recognised one who was greater than he: Almighty God. Dungford recognises no superior and is utterly without any moral compsss whatsoever.
Secondly, Charles had virtues: personal fidelity, personal courage, dignity. Dungford has no virtues whatsoever.

Last edited 5 years ago by annie
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TJN
TJN
5 years ago
Reply to  annie

Excellent post Annie – you must have studied the Civil Wars.

I often try to think which side I would have been on, and can’t make up my mind. But it’s clear to me that the real villain was Charles I, or at least his bone-headed stupidity.

I see people like Drakeford and into my mind pops the phrase ‘the banality of evil’.

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annie
annie
5 years ago
Reply to  TJN

Yes, that phrase must have been written with Dungford in mind.
I am very interested in the Civil War(s). I would most certainly have been on Parliament’s side, but a lot of what happened immediately after the war would have disappointed and disquieted me exceedingly
.
One thing I find magnificent is the Putney Debates. To hear such lucid, rational, intelligent political discussion is like champagne for the brain.

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TJN
TJN
5 years ago
Reply to  annie

Yes, I need to learn more about the Putney debates. There’s also an In Our Time podcast about it which I might listen to again today (as I’m decorating). The point is that ordinary people were in those days capable of having such debates – unlike the docile brain-dead masses of today.

I have great respect for Ireton, and can’t understand how his head later ended up on a spike.

I’m writing about an aspect of the Civil Wars in Cornwall, but the whole is such a massive subject I wouldn’t pretend that I understand the whole era thoroughly.

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iansn
iansn
5 years ago
Reply to  annie

bill gruff still off today, defo a paid troll. Charles never believed he woud be executed, but when the end came he was dignified. This lot would have to be dragged screaming their innocence, it wasnt me it was Whitty, just following the science

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jordane
jordane
5 years ago
Reply to  annie

How’s his son doing?

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Ed Phillips
Ed Phillips
5 years ago
Reply to  Londo Mollari

This is why I have Cromwell’s banner as my profile picture. A reminder that tyrannical government has been swept away before.

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Bella Donna
Bella Donna
5 years ago
Reply to  Ed Phillips

But Ed the common folk back in those days really suffered. Until we suffer as they suffered there will be no change.

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ConstantBees
ConstantBees
5 years ago
Reply to  Bella Donna

Just because we – you and I – aren’t suffering, Bella, doesn’t mean that there aren’t plenty of people who are right now.

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richard riewer
richard riewer
5 years ago
Reply to  Ed Phillips

Replaced by another tyranny.

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TJN
TJN
5 years ago
Reply to  Londo Mollari

Yes, spot on. I’ve posted many times on here how comparisons with Cromwell are wrong.

But part of the problem we have in our society is that collectively we have forgotten our history.

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annie
annie
5 years ago
Reply to  TJN

It isn’t taught any more. You get Herstory and Wokestory and Projects.

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richard riewer
richard riewer
5 years ago
Reply to  annie

You forgot ‘Love Story’.

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richard riewer
richard riewer
5 years ago
Reply to  TJN

Here’s some history on Pembroke Castle:
https://medievalheritage.eu/en/main-page/heritage/wales/pembroke-castle/

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TJN
TJN
5 years ago
Reply to  richard riewer

Yes, Cromwell could be a nasty piece of work at times, or at least bone-chillingly ruthless.

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Ovis
Ovis
5 years ago
Reply to  Londo Mollari

Bojo is unfit to walk the same earth as the English Caesar.

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Bugle
Bugle
5 years ago
Reply to  Londo Mollari

Good comment.

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Sally
Sally
5 years ago

Mechanical ventilation raised the death rate in the early months as well:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8856931/Coronavirus-UK-Rush-patients-ventilators-wave-RAISED-death-rate.html

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Cecil B
Cecil B
5 years ago

He’s playing you The pig dictator is playing you In March he listened to the snake oil salesmen and the harbingers of doom and brought the covid baby into the world A nasty poisonous little runt. The baby infects everything it comes into contact with. Covered in putrid sores it cries all night and won’t take a feed All night he’s up tending to it, PNN has had a guts full and the shagging has stopped Cummings and Cain didn’t come into this world to babysit and fucked off He wants to get on with his day job but he can’t because this thing is screaming in his ear all day He wants rid of this devil baby but nobody wants it They say ‘Your baby mate, you brought it into the world you deal with it’ He hoped the Dolan judges would take it off his hands but they were too wise to fall for that one He prayed the vaccine would offer some respite but that’s turned out to be bollocks He thought Starmer might vote against and take responsibility for the little shit. Starmer doesn’t want the child of doom and is quite happy to spectate whilst… Read more »

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Londo Mollari
Londo Mollari
5 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

Actually, what you have just written sounds like a classic Greek tragedy. I am struggling however, to control my inner rioter.

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Cecil B
Cecil B
5 years ago
Reply to  Londo Mollari

How’s your outer rioter doing?

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Londo Mollari
Londo Mollari
5 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

Restrained by my inner coward. I think I, along with the rest of my generation, lack the fortitude shown by previous generations.

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richard riewer
richard riewer
5 years ago
Reply to  Londo Mollari

Please, The Saga of Bumbling Boris is not the stuff of Greek Tragedy, although Princess N N would make a great Lady Macbeth..

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arfurmo
arfurmo
5 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

You are right but what can we actually do? We can’t force closed shops/pubs/cafes/hotels to open.

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Ben
Ben
5 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

Starmer is worse. Much worse

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richard riewer
richard riewer
5 years ago
Reply to  Ben

A slimy opportunist.

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PatrickF
PatrickF
5 years ago

I’m heading into London, by train from tier four Kent, to walk Hampstead Heath. One of the loveliest areas there is the Vale of Health.

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annie
annie
5 years ago
Reply to  PatrickF

I used to love walking on the Heath. Have a lovely time.

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PatrickF
PatrickF
5 years ago
Reply to  annie

Thanks Annie. My sanity needs it!

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annie
annie
5 years ago

‘It isn’t as if the Nazis have blitzed you,’ says a sanctimonious lockdownista in the DT regarding the cancellation of Christmas.
In fact But they have. But they were aiming at the human soul, not the human body. You don’t need to kill the body in order to kill the soul.

Last edited 5 years ago by annie
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Londo Mollari
Londo Mollari
5 years ago
Reply to  annie

The Kaiser and Fuhrer today live at 193 Cathedral Road Cardiff and in Ten Downing Street. And Josef Goebbels has a regular Sunday show on the BBC.

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annie
annie
5 years ago
Reply to  Londo Mollari

Correction. Cathedral Road houses a substandard wrinkly malevolent ersatz little avatar of Stalin.

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Eliza P.
Eliza P.
5 years ago
Reply to  annie

But anyway we know where he is – always worth looking up at that source of info. that is now regarded as old-fashioned (and isn’t as useful as it used to be) of B.T. Directory Enquiries and then checking out Google Maps to see if it looks like the sort of place he would live (and it does) and 99% you’ve got it worked out.

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richard riewer
richard riewer
5 years ago
Reply to  Londo Mollari

O’Brien?

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TC
TC
5 years ago
Reply to  annie

As a side issue,I had a bit of an argument with my wife and daughter who are both compliant with government rules and my daughter criticised me for not “doing your bit”, an expression a much younger man had used to me when explaining his wearing a face mask in his own business premises.
“Doing your bit” used to be used about people serving their country in times of war:my grandfather and two uncles did that,fighting the Japanese and Germans respectively.
Now it’s representing (unthinking?) compliance to government diktat,as I pointed out but to no avail.

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Ben
Ben
5 years ago
Reply to  TC

In truth ‘doing your bit’ involves actually removing one’s face mask and fighting against the prevailing narrative for freedom. Simpleton sheeple will never understand

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LS99
LS99
5 years ago
Reply to  annie

Spot on Annie. This is about what it is to be human.

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Liewe
Liewe
5 years ago

Yes, this warning regarding young people is based on “anecdotal evidence from doctors” that they are seeing severe disease in young healthy people. Who needs data from hospitals exploring age stratified hospitalization rates to confirm this statement? We believe all politicians!

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Richym99
Richym99
5 years ago

Notice how this new strain is consustently bring referred to as Mutant. Do you think the editors have been told under no circumstances do you describe it as anything else.

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annie
annie
5 years ago
Reply to  Richym99

Teenage mutant antihero Covviturtles.

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TheOriginalBlackPudding
TheOriginalBlackPudding
5 years ago
Reply to  annie

Drakeford is hardly a teenager, but otherwise that sounds like a pretty reasonable description.

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Nigel Sherratt
Nigel Sherratt
5 years ago
Reply to  annie

On fence posts

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Silke David
Silke David
5 years ago
Reply to  Richym99

Like, the common cold ?

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richard riewer
richard riewer
5 years ago
Reply to  Richym99

Mutant Ninja Covid.

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John Stone
John Stone
5 years ago

Btw It was Nuki who set off the Sunday Times fishing expedition against Wakefield in 2003

https://www.ageofautism.com/2020/03/why-we-cannot-believe-brian-deer-about-andrew-wakefield.html

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court
court
5 years ago

I popped in here this morning after hearing second hand about the new restrictions from my wife last night.

I stopped checking the news, Twitter, LS and everything else over a month ago. No shops since July either. It’s been bliss. I’d advise everyone to do it, I was hanging on too tight and was affecting my day to day life without realising. Without the media there is no ‘virus’.

If you can’t switch off completely, at least take the festive period off and start the fight again on the 4th January refreshed.

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annie
annie
5 years ago
Reply to  court

Trouble is, I need to know, at least an hour or two in advance, when my riding lesson us to be cancelled and when I can’t go to the library or buy a Christmas card, or when my Christmas has been cancelled and my friends and family put in a concentration camp. Nacht und Nebel. Every time I think things can’t possibly get any worse, they do. Forewarned – by LS – is, to an extent, forearmed.

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TC
TC
5 years ago
Reply to  annie

Nacht und Nebel.
I have not heard that for a long time and never thought it might be a coming thing in this country but who knows?

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Edward
Edward
5 years ago
Reply to  annie

Similar for me, Annie. Though I generally avoid the TV news, to get the latest on what was going on yesterday I used the red button news on the BBC – at least it’s better than hearing the sanctimonious crap spouted by the propagandists (formerly reporters). Early last year they were going to scrap the red button services, but reprieved it partly because some people use it and don’t have the internet.

Last edited 5 years ago by Edward
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ianric
ianric
5 years ago
Reply to  court

You have made a crucial point about the media. We have been bombarded constantly with message by the media, government and internet we are in a deadly pandemic. If this was the case, why don’t we see evidene of this? We don’t see bodies piling up, large numbers becoming ill, nobody knows anyone with covid and we don’t see ambulances rushing around. Why is that what the media and government tells us bears no relation to what is happening int he real world? I wonder what the relationships between the government and the MSM is. Has the mainstream media been paid off to pump out fear propoganda? If we are in a deadly pandemic, why would it be necessary to do this? A real pandemic doesn’t need a PR campaign. In real pandemic we would see with our own eyes and the fear porn propoganda wouldn’t be necessary. If you shutodown large sections of the economy, the MSM is going to loose advertising revenue. Money from the government would make up for lost advertising revenue. I have read a chart comparing a real pandemic with a fake pandemic. It said in a real pandemic the media would re-assure the population… Read more »

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David Grimbleby
David Grimbleby
5 years ago
Reply to  ianric

Ambulances rush around here with sirens wailing on the hour every hour!

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Cecil B
Cecil B
5 years ago

Oh please, no fucking sob stories

You chose your side

You persecuted and attacked people to the point where some of them committed suicide

Now you want our sympathy, you can fuck off

In the future your grandchildren will spit on the floor at the mere mention of your names

This is not over yet. You will be held to account

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-55331951

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annie
annie
5 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

Iesu Mawr. I hope they cop rivers of spit and I hope they bloody drown in it.

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Llamasaurus Rex
Llamasaurus Rex
5 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

The very sight of these masked little hitlers makes me instantly angry. They are enemies.

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Mr Dee
Mr Dee
5 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

It’s actually an extremely encouraging and uplifting article, in that it ends with what to me is a very positive admission:

“The police’s role in all of this is one they can’t win.”

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annie
annie
5 years ago
Reply to  Mr Dee

Let’s do our level best to make sure they can’t.

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AnotherSceptic
AnotherSceptic
5 years ago

I post a lot of the brainwashing articles from the scummy Edinburgh live website. I also comment on said brainwashing articles, calling it out for the shite that it is. This usually results in my comments being disabled or, if they don’t get disabled, I usually get called a clown (from one particular arse piece called euro2020) So, just before the announcement by the little dictator, I commented this “ Unbelievable. Yesterday, the dentist said about wearing masks when having your Xmas dinner, which is utter nonsense. & now, to keep up the scaremongering, we are being buttered up for a “new strain” & even more harsh lockdowns. Please wake up here people, we are being lied to & taken for mugs. There are world renowned epidemiologists who know what they are talking about, saying that this whole thing is utter rubbish, it is no more worse than the common flu virus. Yet, these same people do not get the airtime in the mainstream media to tel it like it actually is because it doesn’t fit in with all the scaremongering & lies being spread by the government & the mainstream media. Life, freedoms, liberties, democracy & the economy…a thing… Read more »

Last edited 5 years ago by AnotherSceptic
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shorthand
shorthand
5 years ago
Reply to  AnotherSceptic

Good work AS!! Edinburgh Live is an absolute cess pitt of a site. Even that brief glimpse leaves me with a crawling sensation on my flesh. Still, I might join up for some sheep shagging….

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mhcp
mhcp
5 years ago

Notice how the WHO admit that PCR testing searches for a result then tries to justify that by talking about cycles?

Pure subjective horseshit. And a great sign that the “test” is not gold standard even though believers claim it to be.

To use PCR for anything it has to be a threshold test with well characterised processes. And as has always been the case needs a decent signal hence is best used when someone has symptoms.

But here it is used in an arbitrary way. Each test could be different. Your test has 25 cycles mine 40 and yet supposedly have the same weight?

None of these idiots ever took metrology lessons apparently.

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