UK Hits 100,000 Covid Deaths
Prime Minister Boris Johnson and Chief Medical Adviser Chris Whitty held a press conference yesterday in which they marked the grim milestone of 100,000 UK dead with COVID-19. Isabel Hardman in the Spectator has the details.
The Prime Minister offered his “deepest condolences to everyone who has lost a loved one”, and promised that “when we have come through this crisis, we will come together as a nation to remember everyone we lost, and to honour the selfless heroism of all those on the front line who gave their lives to save others”. He also pledged that “we will make sure that we learn the lessons and reflect and prepare”.
This was the closest the Prime Minister came to talking about taking responsibility for the high death toll. He also insisted that “we did everything that we could to minimise suffering and minimise loss of life in this country”. Later, both he and Whitty reflected on the sort of lessons they’d already learned. For Johnson, it was more about what the UK had now developed, such as effective PPE supply chains, and testing. These are not really lessons learned, and Johnson will know that.
Whitty was rather more constructive, saying scientists didn’t initially appreciate the importance of asymptomatic transmission, that they hadn’t supported widespread mask-wearing initially, and that doctors had learned clinical lessons about treating the virus.
What Johnson has said this evening, about the need to learn lessons and the Government doing everything it could, might work as a holding line. But when the public inquiry is held, it will presumably examine the speed with which he took decisions, whether he treated the pandemic with the seriousness it merited from the outset, and whether the claims that ministers have repeatedly made about “putting a protective ring” around the care sector, for instance, are at all accurate. When those details are picked over and there is no immediate crisis to deal with instead, the line “we did everything we could” may look more like an aspiration than reality.
It’s depressing that the main criticisms being made of the Government are that restrictions were not imposed early enough and hard enough, and the main lessons are the supposed value of masks and the putative role of asymptomatic infection in driving transmission – none of which have much in the way of evidence to back them up. No sign of reflection on whether lockdowns are really effective or worth it, or whether test and trace measures for an endemic virus are actually a sound idea.
Allison Pearson has written an excellent piece in the Telegraph marking the milestone.
Everyone has their breaking point, a moment when you say: “Enough, I can’t take any more.” Mine came during one of Clive Myrie’s special reports for BBC News from the Royal London Hospital. I say reports, but this was more like an expressionist horror film. Over deeply distressing scenes, Myrie intoned a doom-laden prose poem complete with deadly refrain: “We’re all scared.”
“We’re all scared,” he said as the camera panned over some poor patient (“Asif lies limp”). “We’re all scared,” he said as we got a chilling, bird’s-eye view of a freshly dug grave complete with gravedigger, one of many in a muddy cemetery of recent burial mounds. “We’re all scared,” he said as – I can still hardly believe this – the crew followed a body on a trolley into the morgue.
“Dying and dying and dying,” chanted Clive, just in case any viewers were still clinging by their fingertips to the fact that the vast majority of people who get Covid make a full recovery, even those who are admitted with the virus to hospital. If you weren’t scared before Myrie’s reports then they made damn sure you were whimpering behind the sofa afterwards.
Allison isn’t scared, she says. She’s angry.
So let’s conveniently shelve the fact that official figures yesterday showed another 800,000 people out of work (2.6 million and climbing). And that urgent breast cancer referrals were down a horrifying 32.6% last year, compared with January to November 2019. When it’s the turn of those women, many of an age to have young families, to go to the cemetery, I trust Myrie and the team will be there to record the epitaphs on their gravestones: “Loving wife and mother, died too young from lockdown.”
As the UK passes the undeniably grim milestone of 100,000 Covid deaths, the equally dismaying consequences of shutting down society become more apparent by the day. The response of both TV news and Government is to double down on the doom. Even as a group of 47 leading psychologists writes to the British Psychological Society claiming this amounts to a strategic decision “to inflate the fear levels of the British public”, which it states is “ethically murky, morally questionable” and “has left people too afraid to leave their homes for medical appointments”.
Recent public information included a radio advert which said: “Someone jogging, walking their dog or working out in the park is highly likely to have COVID-19.” Eh? After being contacted by the Advertising Standards Authority, the Cabinet Office said the disputed claim (aka baseless rubbish) will not be repeated. I should hope not.
Almost the worst thing is that it is all so counter-productive. When the Prime Minister warned at a Downing Street Press briefing on Friday that the new variant “may increase” the Covid death rate by 30% (a “may” that was unravelling into a “maybe not” within 24 hours), all he did was give more ammunition to his enemy, the teaching unions. They must have been rubbing their hands; even more reason to claim that their members are not “safe” and schools shouldn’t reopen until September. That’ll be September 2023, knowing them.
She reports on the launch of HART, the new SAGE-like group that has its feet firmly grounded in the real-world evidence.
It is cheering to report, therefore, that after months of dubious science and dodgier predictions, a new group of eminent doctors, scientists, economists and psychologists have come together to form HART, the Health Advisory and Recovery Team and an alternative to SAGE, which aims to provide context, perspective and balance on the Covid crisis. Will the BBC give any airtime to this thoughtful bunch who want to chart a positive path out of a nightmare which is doing so much damage to young and old? Or will its reporters be too busy down the morgue?
Worth reading in full.
Unemployment Rises Sharply to 5%
Unemployment in the three months to November hit 5%, meaning an estimated 1.7 million people are out of work, a 0.6% rise on the previous quarter. Kate Andrews in the Spectator takes a closer look.
The gradual climb suggests that the furlough scheme continues to hold off mass redundancies and provides further evidence that England’s second national lockdown didn’t hit as hard as the first. But the unemployment rate is set to worsen before it improves, with more optimistic forecasts estimating a peak of around 6% later this year, while others (including the Bank of England) estimate around 8%. Compared with the euro area’s 8.3%, the UK’s unemployment figures are low but still serve as yet another reminder that the effects of lockdowns will linger, even once vaccines brings an end to restrictions. It is inevitable that some jobs will no longer exist once furlough ends after the best part of a year.
Some apparently encouraging signs are not all they seem.
Earnings growth, for example, is back to pre-pandemic levels. But it’s a selective recovery: according to the ONS, the figures have been pushed up “by a fall in the number and proportion of lower-paid jobs compared with before the coronavirus pandemic”. In other words, the figures for earnings growth have shot up so quickly in large part due to people in low-paid work having lost their jobs.
All the while, the numbers claiming unemployment-related benefits continue to hover at record highs, hitting 2.6 million in December (an increase of 113.2%, or 1.4 million, since last March). The longer the economically damaging measures that defined last year continue, the harder the path to recovery becomes.
Worth reading in full.
Stop Press: Geoff Colvin in Fortune writes that the Covid recession may kill more Americans than COVID-19 does:
The economic effects of COVID-19 could prove deadlier than the disease itself.
So says just-released research, which concludes that the total lives lost to the virus in the U.S. may “far exceed those immediately related to the acute COVID-19 critical illness… The recession caused by the pandemic can jeopardise population health for the next two decades.”
The new working paper, by authors at Duke University, Harvard Medical School, and the Johns Hopkins University Business School, focuses on the almost instantaneous unemployment of millions of workers in March and April. The unemployment rate jumped from nearly the lowest in 50 years to the highest since the current measurement system began in 1948. While it has come down, it’s still at its highest rate since the recovery from the 2008–09 financial crisis.
Where Are We Going?

We’re publishing a new essay today by regular Lockdown Sceptics contributor Guy de la Bédoyère taking a look at the year ahead and what’s likely to happen. His initial thoughts were confirmed, he says, when he heard an interview with two senior scientists yesterday on Radio 4.
BBC Radio 4’s World at One on January 26th interviewed Professor Sir Mark Walport, former Chief Scientific Adviser, and Professor Adam Kucharski, an epidemiologist at the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine. Everything they said assured me that what I have laid out here is broadly in line with the way the Government is both being guided, and is viewing, the next six months to a year. That includes the continuing high levels of hospitalisation, despite reductions in deaths, and therefore the belief that measures must stay in place.
(13m 19s in) Kucharski: “I think the hope is that obviously vaccines can massively reduce the risk of death, but then you’ve got the issue of a large number of people at risk of hospitalisation and ICU, so even if deaths in, say, the oldest group start to come down from vaccination there’s still potentially a really substantial disease burden that could happen in the near future if cases were to climb again.”
Walport, when asked why the UK has had so much death, didn’t pull his punches: “The answer is that we’re in a club that no country wants to belong to of a group of countries, typically liberal democracies, European countries, Spain, Italy, Belgium, France, Germany’s having troubles at the moment. And the reality is that with a highly transmissible virus unless you restrict people’s liberty very, very strongly indeed, it’s countries such as the UK are fertile ground for the virus to spread.”’
Sarah Montagu: “That doesn’t quite explain it, does it? The numbers here compared with Germany are so much higher.”
Walport: “That’s true. I mean, I think one’s got to look back to the beginnings of this and of course what happened in the UK, and the UK is globally highly connected country, and if you look at the sort of cities in the world that have done worst, they are the globally connected cities, Brussels, New York, London. So, we were sort of sitting ducks in a way and of course what happened in February half-term was that the infection was brought in, distributed very widely across the UK by people returning from their half-term holidays in Italy, France and Spain where it was picked up so we were unlucky in the sense that it was seeded geographically very widely across the UK. But the truth is that historians are going to be looking at this for years to come and in a way I think there’s, sort of, looking back there’s going to be plenty of public enquiries. The real challenge at the moment is to actually make sure that we don’t continue losing enormous numbers of people to this dreadful infection.”
There you have it: we’d have been alright if Britain wasn’t an internationally connected nation (now more important than ever), didn’t allow its citizens to go on holiday, and wasn’t a liberal democracy. Why didn’t anyone think of those before? Another member of the scientists’ club in favour of totalitarian government?
When asked to predict the future, Kucharski was upbeat that deaths would come down “quite soon” but warned that we can’t relax measures too soon in case of overloading hospitals. Ominously, he warned that later in the year countries are going to have to decide what to do in terms of the “level of additional measures” they want to keep on in addition to the vaccines.
Let’s hope other voices win out over the closet totalitarians.
Guy’s new essay is worth reading in full.
“All Businesses, Schools, do Need to Get Back to Normal Life at Some Point” – ICU Doctor on the BBC

Is that the sound of the tide beginning to turn, or is it just wishful thinking? A reader has sent us a transcript of a segment he heard last night on BBC World News where an emergency doctor in Los Angeles, Dr Mizuho Morrison, told the interviewers, Katty Kay and Christian Fraser, that the time had come to “get back to normal life”.
They start off discussing the new California variant and the fact that California is lifting the stay at home order.
Dr Mizuho Morrison: I think the one thing I want to point out is that it’s easy for us to get distracted and lost with all the hype and pandemonium, and honestly what we’re seeing much more in the emergency department and the acute health care settings is so much anxiety and depression-based reactions. And I think it’s this constant threat and so framing it I think is very important and making sure that, you know, does it really change our outcome, and if the answer’s no…
Christian Fraser: …it’s fatigue isn’t it really? We’re just so tired of it all
MM: We’re so tired of it, everyone is just so…
KK: You know this, the UK is still in lockdown and yesterday Governor Newsom announced that California is coming out of its stay at home order. Do you think he’s right to be lifting the restrictions with this new more transmissible strain in the state?
MM: I think it’s okay… it’s important that we are cautious, right? At this point we are seeing a trend, a very big difference in our Covid tent patients, typically I like to call the ‘walking well patients’, versus our ICUs. So our cases are certainly coming down. That’s great and let’s be honest, all businesses, schools, do need to get back to normal life at some point. Our ICU beds will eventually trickle down. There’s usually a bit of a lag. But I do think it’s time to lift. At some point we have to say enough is enough. We do have to go back to real life. Really it comes down again to the risk versus benefit. I do think that the efforts of driving the vaccination efforts are critical at this point. We can’t go as slow as we’re currently going.
CF: If there’s going to be a new variant every three or four months, people say to me how long are we going to do this because, you know, we can’t lock down forever. At some point we have to get on with it. If there’s a variant that’s going to be resistant to the vaccine – maybe we just have to live with that?
MM: That’s a very good point. And exactly to your point – does it change anything? Meaning, let’s say you’re vaccinated and you’re going to have some type of immune response, right? You’re going to have something. Having some type of immunity, antibodies, is better than not being vaccinated at all. And really the question is, does this new strain mean I could die? Do I have a greater chance of death? And if the answer is no, to your point, we need to get back to real life… if we perseverate time and time again over every little strain, life will never go back to regular living… Most of the patients that we’re seeing now… the critical care that we’re doing is from patients who have been neglected all year, who haven’t seen their physicians, oncologist, they’re coming in to the emergency department because they can’t wait any more… cancer, they have kidney failure to the extreme, heart failure, to the extreme. We really have to ask ourselves, public health-wise, have we done the best efforts here?
Postcard From Bangkok

Lockdown Sceptics reader Rick Bradford has written to us from Thailand, where despite a super-low death toll the country is in the grip of Covid hysteria.
At first glance, there are many similarities between the progress of the Covid pandemic in Thailand and in the UK. Grim-faced ministers, surrounded by medical experts dressed in white lab coats to indicate authority and competence, appear on TV and announce a raft of restrictions on travel, restaurants, alcohol sales, beaches, markets and entertainment venues, the severity of which rely almost entirely on the number of new positive Covid tests recorded the previous day. The strategy is inconsistent and incoherent, and subject to reversal at whim.
There is a familiar sense of hapless Government apparatchiks, bewildered by having to work with numbers, and relying on a motley selection of self-styled experts who also don’t know what is going on. The mantra of “We must do something, this is something, therefore we must do it” is heard as loud in Bangkok as it is in London. The Thai population, like the British, has been scared into regarding COVID-19 as something akin to the Black Death.
But there is one glaring difference between the situation in Thailand and that in the UK. Thailand, with a steady influx of Chinese tourists, was one of the first countries to see infections caused by COVID-19, in January last year.
In the year since then, Thailand has recorded an overall death toll from Covid of 72. Not 72,000, but 72, from a population slightly larger than the UK’s. To put that in perspective, more Thais die on the roads each day than have succumbed to Covid in all of the past 12 months. In fact, all-cause mortality in Thailand in 2020 was expected to be greatly reduced as travel restrictions dented the normal carnage on Thai roads, which claims over 25,000 lives a year.
Covid, for some reason, has not caught on in Thailand. This is not to suggest that the Thai government is somehow more than 1,000 times more efficient than the UK Government.
There are many factors at play. Thais are drenched every day in vitamin D from a relentless sun, the temperature rarely drops below 20 Celsius and is usually in the mid-30s, plus the population is younger than the UK’s, especially regarding the highly vulnerable geriatric category. There is also a much lower prevalence of obesity and Type-2 diabetes. This apparent high level of metabolic health occurs while Thailand spends £180 per person per year on its health system, almost 20 times less than the UK (£3,200). Thais may also benefit from a higher degree of prior immunity owing to earlier similar outbreaks, such as the SARS outbreak of 2003 which was quite localised to Asia.
So the impact of Covid on Thailand has been almost entirely economic. The tourist industry, which in 2019 comprised over 10% of Thailand’s economy, has been shredded. Several million Thai workers have lost their jobs, and familiar tourist haunts such as Pattaya and Koh Samui are ghost towns, unlikely to fully recover.
But the Government seems undeterred by the loss of perhaps £36 billion in annual tourism revenue and is pushing ahead with grandiose redevelopment plans, such as the expansion of the main international airport (which has lain empty for one year), a high-speed rail network which nobody can afford to take, and most ambitious of all, a space programme with an aim to travel to the moon within the next seven years.
Given the chronic problems besetting Thailand’s economy, it is not surprising that many commentators have expressed a preference that Thailand’s first visitor to the moon should be General Prayut Chan-ocha, Prime Minister, and holder of the Knight Grand Cordon (Special Class) of The Most Exalted Order of the White Elephant.
It seems fair to conclude that there is little point in comparing the death toll between different countries and drawing conclusions from the data. Both the UK and Thailand have incompetent governments which have trashed their respective economies for no apparent good reason.
Whether their interventions and restrictions have had any impact on the trajectory of the Covid pandemic in their countries is something that will no doubt be debated for many years.
“Much of America is Already Open”

A lawyer and Lockdown Sceptics reader in America has got in touch to say it’s good news that America appears to be opening up again (as Jeffrey A. Tucker explains here). But in truth, much of the country has been open for months.
I sometimes feel bad about this and therefore don’t comment, but there are vast swaths of the U.S. that are essentially already open. I have not worn a mask (except at the doctor’s office) at all, ever. My court (i.e. judge) has bought into the Covid hysteria hook, line and sinker. I’ve had arguments about it (we’re all Zoom right now) several times and have been shut down every time. We are home-schooling our kids, rather than sending them to school (their private school is open) with masks on, and we’ll send them back as soon as this garbage ends. But, to be perfectly honest, we have been living our lives pretty much as normal. Our kids played baseball (against the Governor’s orders) last summer, and they’re still playing. The kids still get together with friends, and they’re doing a “home-school” art class with several other families. We’ve eaten out at restaurants that refuse to close. We have spent a lot of time in Idaho, where we have family, and though it is not as open as South Dakota, it is pretty open (again, no mask mandate). Not only did we spend Thanksgiving and Christmas mingling with several households, we’ve never stopped visiting friends and doing pretty much everything we would otherwise do. So much so that I am sometimes taken by surprise when I am reminded of these stupid regulations (I was banned from Costco and have been confronted by obnoxious workers a very small handful of times in various places over the past year). What I read about your country is absolutely horrifying.
The reality of the situation, though, is that we currently have tons of data if anyone was actually interested. There are so many places in the US that are wide open (or ignoring regulations), and plenty that seem to be as locked down as the UK (Seattle, which is two hours away from my home, comes to mind). If anyone was willing to perform actual science, there are enough natural experiments to fill a dozen journals. But we all know what the data shows. If Democrats can spin this in a way that allows them to declare victory on behalf of Biden, they will absolutely do so.
I do worry about masks and restrictions, though. Essentially, the Government has discovered that it can get away with a complete shredding of our constitution, with barely a peep from conservatives. They are unlikely ever to give that back unless we force them to.
But, as we do open up more officially, maybe we’ll start to hear people who are willing to speak out.
How Urban is Sweden?
A reader has pointed out that lockdown witch-hunter Neil O’Brien MP made a factual error of his own in his December New Statesman piece on Sweden. He writes: “First, [Sweden is] a far less urban nation than the UK, for example, and the virus spreads much more rapidly in dense, built-up areas.”
In fact, by the country’s own reckoning 87.7% of people in Sweden lived in urban areas in 2019. In contrast, that figure for the UK is 83.7% as of 2019.
I reported these figures in my story on Sweden on Sunday. However, another reader got in touch since then to say the problem with these figures is there’s no standard definition of urban. The Swedish definition is anyone who lives in a town of at least 200 people, whereas the UK threshold for “urban” is 50 times higher at 10,000. This means the figures aren’t really comparable, despite them being presented as such by the UN.
Through a bit of our own research we found that in 2018 63.5% of Swedes lived in towns or cities of 10,000 or more, so are urban by the UK definition. This is admittedly somewhat less than the UK’s 83.4% figure for 2018, so may affect the virus spread dynamics to a degree. But Sweden is still a highly urbanised society with nearly two thirds of its inhabitants living in towns of 10,000 or more people.
Italy uses the same definition as the UK and it was 70.4% urban in 2018. This is not much higher than Sweden and considerably less than the UK, but that difference did not prevent Italy from being among the worst affected countries in the world for Covid last year.
You Can See Your Friends

A Lockdown Sceptics reader, Adam Collyer, has written in with a suggestion for young people who want to see their friends.
I read the heart-breaking piece in yesterday’s Lockdown Sceptics headed “Poetry Corner”, about the 14 year-old boy who was worried he would never see his friends again. I have seen many similar remarks on Twitter about teenagers worried about this.
I believe the Government’s continuous “stay at home” messaging has obscured the fact that people are allowed out to take exercise, and they are allowed to do so with one person not from their household. It is therefore perfectly legal for a 14 year-old boy to walk with one of his friends in the park, or kick a football around for example. I am concerned that many young people may be sitting alone at home all day, when it is perfectly legal for them to meet with their friends (one at a time) in this way.
To quote from the Government guidelines (for England) (emphasis added):
“You can exercise in a public outdoor place:
– by yourself
– with the people you live with
– with your support bubble (if you are legally permitted to form one)
– in a childcare bubble where providing childcare
– or, when on your own, with one person from another householdThis includes but is not limited to running, cycling, walking, and swimming.“
Incidentally, the two metre distancing is a guideline and not the law, so this shouldn’t cramp their style either!
I think by highlighting this, you might help prevent a young person going over the edge.
Another Patient “Lost in the System”

A reader has got in touch with another disturbing story about a relative in hospital, in this case suffering it appears from neglect.
Following on from the series about elderly relatives getting lost in the system I thought I should share my story about my 86 year-old (independent living) mother-in-law. She fell ill in early December and we managed, at the fourth attempt, to get her into hospital where Covid was confirmed. She was not taken to ICU but placed in an elderly Covid ward. We were not able to visit but with persistent phone calling we tried to keep tabs on how she was. We were assured things were fine until around New Year we received the call no one wants, that her oxygen levels had dropped dramatically and she was not going to make it so would be placed on ‘end of life’ treatment. This was obviously a huge shock, especially given the assurances provided to that point.
Anyway, despite her condition they would still not let us visit (it is worth knowing that it is hospital policy that governs access, not Government diktat). Fortunately, we know a senior hospital doctor elsewhere in the country heavily involved in Covid care. We contacted her and she made a phone call and suddenly we were allowed in. What we found was truly shocking. It was apparent my mother-in-law was dying from neglect, not Covid. She had been provided with an inappropriate oxygen mask that she was unable to tolerate wearing for more than a few minutes at a time in her confused state, there was no water within her reach, nutrition had been withdrawn (or at least any nutrition that she could eat in her condition), drugs that should have been prescribed were not, she had a very bad undiagnosed infection of the mouth (we had to fight to get treated), she was badly dehydrated, etc., etc.
During the course of the next five days we argued vociferously for basic care to be restored – namely oxygen, water, nutrition, and appropriate drugs for her condition and infections. They finally barred us from visiting after that time and so communication became almost impossible again. The improvement during those five days was almost immediate and continuous such that in less than five days of our first visit a hospital consultant called her recovery a “miracle”. It was not a miracle, it was family support and basic essential care. We are now expecting her home within a few days and are hopeful she will make a full recovery.
I would like to think this is an isolated case but I fear that highly unlikely. Not least because the response to our letters to PALS and the CEO’s office at the hospital demonstrated an almost complete lack of concern for the care of my mother-in-law and what was going on in the hospital. It was, in effect, all put down to Covid. This is in my view completely untrue. She went into hospital well before any major rise in infections in the area and it was basic nursing care they failed to provide in those early weeks in December.
I should add that, for obvious reasons, I have not named the hospital nor any of the parties involved. I would also not wish my name to be disclosed if you were to decide to include my letter in your newsletter. The NHS is such an emotive subject for many people and in my experience any critic of the organisation tends to be treated as a pariah. It is rather ironic that at the very moment that the entire country has been brought almost to a standstill to protect (largely) the elderly from harm, my experience is that an elderly person’s treatment in hospital falls woefully short of the basic level of care needed to sustain life and give them a chance of recovery.
The Myths of the Lockdowners

There follows a guest post by the senior financial journalist, who’s often contributed to Lockdown Sceptics, reviewing “The Eight Biggest Myths of Covid-Sceptics – and why they are wrong” by Sam Bowman.
As part of a coordinated attack on lockdown sceptics, the economist Sam Bowman has published a piece in the New Statesman listing what he calls their biggest myths. Bowman refers to critics of lockdown as “Covid-sceptics,” conflating them for effect with climate-change sceptics and other undesirables. Yet he surely knows that none of the published critics of lockdown deny Covid. Rather, they have been sceptical of the draconian policy responses to the pandemic. According to the OED, a myth is a “a purely fictitious narrative usually involving supernatural persons, actions or events”. Bowman fails to identify anything of this sort. Instead, he provides a list of claims about COVID-19 which he strongly disagrees with.
Myth 1. Sceptics say we are overreacting to a disease that 99.5% of people will survive. The question of overreaction is not a myth but a matter of judgement. As Bowman acknowledges, the lethality of the disease varies greatly with age. Those under the age of 45 face a risk of death from infection of around 1 in 3,300. The question lockdown sceptics ask is whether it is morally justifiable to destroy the lives of those who face little or no risk from Covid.
Myth 2. Covid is only as deadly as a bad flu. Again this is a question of degree. No one is arguing that Covid is as mild as normal flu season nor as lethal as Spanish flu. Its lethality lies somewhere in between these points.
Myth 3. We’re witnessing a “Casedemic of false positives.” Bowman ignores the ongoing debate among scientists as to which is the most reliable test for COVID-19. The PCR test is well known to pick up “cases” from people who may previously have had Covid but are no longer infectious and there’s the ongoing problem of cross-contamination in poorly-run labs and testing facilities. The number of such false positives is important for framing the public policy response – to do otherwise is to engage in the ‘base-rate fallacy’, a well-known error in probability judgements.
Myth 4: We aren’t seeing excess deaths. The question of how we measure excess deaths is also a matter of judgment. Proponents of lockdowns are likely to say we haven’t seen anything like this in a 100 years. Bowman points to excess deaths in England and Wales in 2020 as 14% above the five-year average. Lockdown sceptics counter the epidemic of fear by pointing out, for instance, that the Institute and Faculty of Actuaries found that cumulative mortalities for the UK last year was 7.1% above its 10-year average, its highest level since 2008.
Myth 5: Lockdowns don’t reduce cases, as cases are falling before they are imposed. Bowman chooses to reject the findings of the ZOE App, which provides the data for the sceptics’ claim. It’s impossible to say precisely how effective lockdowns have been, at this stage. What we do know is that during epidemics the number of infectious cases increases exponentially, reaches a turning point and then falls sharply. This was the case in Sweden last year which had no lockdown. And even if lockdowns do suppress infections, it is clear that their benign effect is only temporary (as Professor Ferguson and the SAGE committee believed before a sudden change of mind last year.)
Myth 6. Lockdown leads to a rise in suicides. It’s widely agreed that last year witnessed a “mental health crisis.” Whether this was due to the prolonged social isolation, job losses, cancelled weddings, unattended deaths and funerals, shuttered schools and cancelled hospital visits induced by the lockdown policy or was caused simply by the appearance of a novel coronavirus on our shores, as Bowman suggests, is a matter of opinion.
Myth 7: We could just isolate the most-at-risk. Bowman claims that the “focused protection” proposed by the scientists behind the Great Barrington Declaration is impractical and would be unfair on the vulnerable who would be forced to shelter for months. Lockdown sceptics argue that lockdown itself is impractical and is deeply unfair on the young, especially schoolchildren, and the less-advantaged members of society.
Myth 8: Misinformation from prominent figures. Bowman says Sunetra Gupta claimed last March that half the UK’s population had already been infected by coronavirus, when, in fact, that was one of three hypotheses she considered in an early paper. He neglects to mention that errors have been made on both sides of the lockdown debate. Nowhere in the world have Covid fatalities reached the level predicted in Imperial’s model from last March, the model that threw the UK into lockdown.
Bowman is an economist by profession. Curiously, in his comments on “Covid sceptics” he never once addresses their chief complaint. Namely, that the lockdown policy has never been subjected to a rigorous cost-benefit analysis. He proudly identifies himself as a Senior Fellow of the Adam Smith Institute, a think tank that promotes the ideas of the father of classical economics. One wonders where Smith would have stood in this debate. I like to think he would have been on the side of the sceptics.
After all, Smith’s closest friend was the arch-sceptic philosopher David Hume. Smith fought against orthodox beliefs and took a particularly dim view of tenured academics. He would have been befuddled by the models of Professor Ferguson (on which Bowman heavily relies). Although epidemics are a special case, Smith in general preferred less government and believed in individualism.
As a champion of the small traders, Smith would have been horrified by the devastation of small businesses caused by lockdowns. As a critic of big monopolies protected by patents, he would have been sceptical of the tight relations between the Government and large pharmaceutical companies. Smith was horrified by the size of the National Debt in his day and would doubtless have thrown up his hands at the extraordinary cost to the public purse of the lockdown policy.
One of Smith’s most distinguished French acolytes was the nineteenth-century economist and politician, Frédéric Bastiat. In a famous essay, “What is Seen and What is Not Seen”, Bastiat claimed that
In the sphere of economics, a habit, an institution, or a law engenders not just one effect but a series of effects. Of these effects only the first is immediate; it is revealed simultaneously with its cause; it is seen. The others merely occur successively; they are not seen; we are lucky if we foresee them.
A good economist, said Bastiat, should look beyond the immediate effects of any action. Over the past year it has been the lot of lockdown sceptics to consider the unseen effects of the Government’s Covid policies. Until this nightmare ends, they will continue to do so.
Sceptics Under Fire

Sam Bowman had yet another pop at lockdown sceptics in a Euronews puff piece for his new “myth-busting” website, and once more propagated some myths of his own. Toby put him straight on Twitter. Click on the link if you’re on Twitter, but if not we’ve reproduced the thread below.
1/ I was disappointed to read the following statement by Sam Bowman (@s8mb) in @euronews today: “Right now, in hospitals in the UK, most of the wards are filled with younger people, people in their 40s and 50s and 60s, who have decades left to live.”
2/ Sam said this in an article about his new “grassroots anti-myth” website that “aims to bust Covid misinformation”. That’s a laudable aim, but if he’s sincere about that he shouldn’t be spreading myths about the virus himself.
3/ The claim that the winter resurgence of Covid poses a greater risk to younger people than the first wave, or that there are more younger Covid patients in hospital wards now than older people, is a myth.
4/ A senior doctor investigated the first of these claims – that the age profile of Covid patients hospitalised this winter is younger than it was last spring – for Lockdown Sceptics on 17th Jan.
5/ He concluded: “I was unable to find any significant increase in younger patients, either from the latest NHS Hospital data, the ONS death data or the ICNARC ICU audit data to support his assertion.”
6/ What about Sam’s claim that “most of the wards are filled with younger people, people in their 40s and 50s and 60s, who have decades left to live”? I asked the same senior medic to have a look at the latest data and he came to a similar conclusion.
7/ The recently published NHS stats spreadsheet showing age stratified COVID hospital admissions from 12th Oct – 15th Jan show that 77% of admissions in that period were aged 55 and over and 63% were 65 and over.
8/ As of today, there are 32,337 covid inpatients in English hospitals. Assuming the same age stratification as 12th Oct – 15th Jan, 11,965 of these are under 65 and the remainder – 20,372 – are aged 65 and over.
9/ Don’t get me wrong. 11,965 under-65 year-olds is a lot of younger people. But it’s misleading to say they are filling “most of the wards”. It’s just over one third of the total.
10/ In the same “myth-busting” article, Sam went on to say about these “younger” Covid inpatients: “Unfortunately, lots of those people are going to die…” The word “lots” has no specific value, but I think it’s reasonable to interpret that as meaning at least 10% will die.
11/ According to this study of Covid inpatients in French hospitals, the CFR by age breaks down as follows:
0-9 – 0.01%
10-19 – 0.02%
20-29 – 0.11%
30-39 – 0.44%
40-49 – 1.24%
50-59 – 4.56%
60-69 – 11.81%
70-79 – 22.73%
80-89 – 37.8%
90+ – 21.28%12/ While it’s true that just over 10% of 60-69 year-old Covid inpatients are likely to die (based on the above data), the median CFR for Covid inpatients in their 40s, 50s and 60s is considerably less that 10%.
13/ More generally, it’s a myth that Covid-19 poses the same risk to younger people as it does to older people. According to the @ONS’s latest coronavirus roundup, 75% of deaths involving COVID-19 in England + Wales have been of people aged 75 and over.
14/ A BBC report on 19th Nov (based on @ONS data) included this summary: “The average age of people who have died with Covid is above 80 with more than nine in 10 of the deaths among the over 65s…”
15/ So while it’s true that there are some younger people in hospital with COVID-19 – and some younger people have died of COVID-19 – you shouldn’t try and frighten people by exaggerating the risk to younger people, however good your intentions.
16/ The problem with @s8mb’s “myth-busting” website is that it only tries to correct misleading claims made by lockdown sceptics (whom it smears as “Covid sceptics”).
17/ If @s8mb was just concerned with scientific accuracy and debunking misinformation, rather than promoting the case for lockdowns, he wouldn’t spread myths of his own calculated to frighten the public into supporting the Government.
18/ One last point. It’s wrong to describe @s8mb’s new site as a “grassroots” initiative. He set it up with @NeilDotObrien, a member of the Govt. If you set up an apparently independent site with a Tory MP to support the policies of a Tory Govt the correct term is “astroturfing”.
Stop Press: Continuing our policy of publishing some of the best arguments from across the aisle, we’re flagging this piece today in today’s Wall Street Journal. According to the subhead: “Mask-wearing, good air flow and frequent rapid tests are more important than surface cleaning, temperature checks and plexiglass. Scientists say America needs to double down on protection protocols as potentially more-contagious coronavirus variants take hold and vaccines are slow to roll out.”
Round-up
- “To escape the lockdown nightmare, put Covid into proportion” – Philip Johnston, who says he contracted Covid earlier in the month, writes in the Telegraph that in the battle within Government between realists and eradicators the realists must win
- “Covid deniers should be held to account” – Doug Marr with a venomous (and frequently ludicrous) piece in Herald Scotland in which he says the European Research Group of Tory MPs “constituted an idiocracy of eccentrics” whose leading members “morphed effortlessly into the equally deranged Covid Recovery Group”
- “‘Covid ‘denier’ is a disgusting, dog-whistle slur’” – Peter Hitchens talks to Brendan O’Neill in a recent spiked podcast. Read the transcript
- “Cats and dogs may need Covid vaccine to curb infections, scientists say” – It’s getting silly now, from the Independent
- “Steve Hilton investigates origins of COVID-19, links to US commissioned research” – Watch David Cameron’s former adviser and host of Fox’s The Next Revolution parse the evidence surrounding the origins of the virus
- “WHO (finally) admits PCR test is potentially flawed” – OffGuardian editorial says a second PCR memo in two months casts even more doubt on the supposed “gold standard” of Covid diagnosis
- “The common cold and common censorship” – David Fletcher on Left Lockdown Sceptics rallies to Toby’s defence, saying of course other coronaviruses provide some immunity
- “450 year-old Oxford pub succumbs to Covid” – Another sad casualty, reports the Bangkok Post
- “These vaccine passport schemes could be our ticket to freedom” – Depressing article in the Telegraph on how airlines are pressing ahead with vaccine passport technology
- “What Does It Mean for a Virus to Become ‘Endemic?’” – Good explainer from Micha Gartz in AIER
- “Disgraced COVID-19 studies are still routinely cited” – Charles Piller in Science on sloppy practices in peer-reviewed papers that are not being picked up by reviewers or editors
- “COVID-19 Lockdowns: Liberty and Science” – Sam Jacobs in Libertas Bella with an overview of the pandemic
- “Oldham school to withdraw places for lockdown-breach pupils” – Children who reveal to teachers that they have been visiting family and friends may be excluded for “putting staff in danger”, the BBC reports
- “Is the PCR test suitable for diagnosis?” – Watch Dr Clare Craig being interviewed on the Pandemic Podcast
- “Merck Scraps Covid Vaccines; Says It’s More Effective To Get The Virus And Recover” – Summit News on the vaccines that have been abandoned following trials by their manufacturer because they generate an “inferior” immune system response in comparison with natural infection. Isn’t that true of all of them?
- Watch the unintentionally hilarious spectacle that is the Teachers’ Safety Dance in which teachers of interpretive dance put on a performance to express their unwillingness to teach… interpretive dance
Theme Tunes Suggested by Readers
Just two today: “Stop This Madness” by Coreign and “A Couple More Years” by Willie Nelson.
Love in the Time of Covid

We have created some Lockdown Sceptics Forums, including a dating forum called “Love in a Covid Climate” that has attracted a bit of attention. We have a team of moderators in place to remove spam and deal with the trolls, but sometimes it takes a little while so please bear with us. You have to register to use the Forums as well as post comments below the line, but that should just be a one-time thing. Any problems, email the Lockdown Sceptics webmaster Ian Rons here.
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Woke Gobbledegook

We’ve decided to create a permanent slot down here for woke gobbledegook. Today, it’s the turn of film director Spike Lee who recently compared Donald Trump to Hitler. Brendan O’Neill takes up the story in Spectator USA.
I wish people would stop comparing Donald Trump to Adolf Hitler. Not because I’m worried about Trump’s feelings – he’s big enough to look after himself – but because of the extraordinary damage these comparisons are doing to historical memory. All the loose, opportunistic, cheap-thrill talk about Trump being the new Hitler is trivializing the Nazi regime and the grotesque crimes of the 1930s.
The latest celeb to jump on the Trump-Hitler bandwagon is film director Spike Lee. During an acceptance speech for a special prize from the New York Film Critics Circle, Lee said Trump would ‘go down in history with the likes of Hitler’. Trump and all ‘his boys’ will go down ‘on the wrong side of history’, Lee said, no doubt to enthusiastic head-nodding from the Hollywood set.
Lee isn’t alone, of course, in comparing Trump to the most evil man who has ever lived. From the moment Trump entered the White House four years ago, his critics were plundering the horrors of the 1930s for metaphors that they might wield against the nasty new president. I remember at an anti-Trump march in London in 2017 seeing placards featuring Trump with a Hitler mustache. ‘We’re history teachers – we know how this ends’, said one banner.
Recently Arnold Schwarzenegger spoke about the storming of the Capitol on January 6th in the same breath as Kristallnacht, the Nazis’ anti-Semitic pogrom of 1938. This was “the Day of Broken Glass right here in the United States”, he said.
Everyone I know agrees that the mob assault on the Capitol was reckless, dangerous and deeply undemocratic. But Kristallnacht? That state-authorized racist pogrom that led to widespread destruction of Jewish businesses and synagogues, to 90 Jewish deaths and to the internment of 30,000 Jews in concentration camps?
There is no comparison. None whatsoever. Kristallnacht was the starting point of the gravest crime in human history; the storming of the Capitol was the pathetic if violent last hurrah of the more extremist element of the pro-Trump lobby.
Worth reading in full.
Stop Press: A B-list Canadian comedy troupe has cancelled itself for being insufficiently woke. Maybe the funniest thing the group’s ever done.
“Mask Exempt” Lanyards

We’ve created a one-stop shop down here for people who want to obtain a “Mask Exempt” lanyard/card – because wearing a mask causes them “severe distress”, for instance. You can print out and laminate a fairly standard one for free here and the Government has instructions on how to download an official “Mask Exempt” notice to put on your phone here. And if you feel obliged to wear a mask but want to signal your disapproval of having to do so, you can get a “sexy world” mask with the Swedish flag on it here.
Don’t forget to sign the petition on the UK Government’s petitions website calling for an end to mandatory face masks in shops here.
A reader has started a website that contains some useful guidance about how you can claim legal exemption. Another reader has created an Android app which displays “I am exempt from wearing a face mask” on your phone. Only 99p.
If you’re a shop owner and you want to let your customers know you will not be insisting on face masks or asking them what their reasons for exemption are, you can download a friendly sign to stick in your window here.
And here’s an excellent piece about the ineffectiveness of masks by a Roger W. Koops, who has a doctorate in organic chemistry. See also the Swiss Doctor’s thorough review of the scientific evidence here and Prof Carl Heneghan and Dr Tom Jefferson’s Spectator article about the Danish mask study here.
Stop Press: The Daily Wire reports that Dr Anthony Fauci, Director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases and now President Biden’s Chief Medical Adviser on COVID-19, has yet again changed his advice on masks. It’s time to double up: “If you have a physical covering with one layer, you put another layer on it; just makes common sense that it likely would be more effective,” he told NBC News on Monday. He admits there is a drawback: “We run the risk of making it too hard to breathe.”
Stop Press 2: Hot on the heels of “double masking” comes “triple masking“. No, we’re not making that up.
The Great Barrington Declaration

The Great Barrington Declaration, a petition started by Professor Martin Kulldorff, Professor Sunetra Gupta and Professor Jay Bhattacharya calling for a strategy of “Focused Protection” (protect the elderly and the vulnerable and let everyone else get on with life), was launched in October and the lockdown zealots have been doing their best to discredit it ever since. If you googled it a week after launch, the top hits were three smear pieces from the Guardian, including: “Herd immunity letter signed by fake experts including ‘Dr Johnny Bananas’.” (Freddie Sayers at UnHerd warned us about this the day before it appeared.) On the bright side, Google UK has stopped shadow banning it, so the actual Declaration now tops the search results – and Toby’s Spectator piece about the attempt to suppress it is among the top hits – although discussion of it has been censored by Reddit. The reason the zealots hate it, of course, is that it gives the lie to their claim that “the science” only supports their strategy. These three scientists are every bit as eminent – more eminent – than the pro-lockdown fanatics so expect no let up in the attacks. (Wikipedia has also done a smear job.)
You can find it here. Please sign it. Now over three quarters of a million signatures.
Update: The authors of the GBD have expanded the FAQs to deal with some of the arguments and smears that have been made against their proposal. Worth reading in full.
Update 2: Many of the signatories of the Great Barrington Declaration are involved with new UK anti-lockdown campaign Recovery. Find out more and join here.
Update 3: You can watch Sunetra Gupta set out the case for “Focused Protection” here and Jay Bhattacharya make it here.
Update 4: The three GBD authors plus Prof Carl Heneghan of CEBM have launched a new website collateralglobal.org, “a global repository for research into the collateral effects of the COVID-19 lockdown measures”. Follow Collateral Global on Twitter here. Sign up to the newsletter here.
Judicial Reviews Against the Government

There are now so many legal cases being brought against the Government and its ministers we thought we’d include them all in one place down here.
The Simon Dolan case has now reached the end of the road. The current lead case is the Robin Tilbrook case which challenges whether the Lockdown Regulations are constitutional. You can read about that and contribute here.
Then there’s John’s Campaign which is focused specifically on care homes. Find out more about that here.
There’s the GoodLawProject and Runnymede Trust’s Judicial Review of the Government’s award of lucrative PPE contracts to various private companies. You can find out more about that here and contribute to the crowdfunder here.
And last but not least there was the Free Speech Union‘s challenge to Ofcom over its ‘coronavirus guidance’. A High Court judge refused permission for the FSU’s judicial review on December 9th and the FSU has decided not to appeal the decision because Ofcom has conceded most of the points it was making. Check here for details.
Samaritans

If you are struggling to cope, please call Samaritans for free on 116 123 (UK and ROI), email jo@samaritans.org or visit the Samaritans website to find details of your nearest branch. Samaritans is available round the clock, every single day of the year, providing a safe place for anyone struggling to cope, whoever they are, however they feel, whatever life has done to them.
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27th Janaury Does anyone have any more information?
The Great Reopen UK businesses are asked to open – I am not saying anyone should break the law.
Aren’t all businesses essential – contact them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCGI4kurfbY
https://thewhiterose.uk/the-great-reopening-30-january-2021/
https://t.me/thegreatreopening
30th January there is a call for British pubs, restaurants, hospitality to reopen. Just like Italian restaurant and bars are doing
Who’s prepared to fight for their livelihood?
More importantly who’s going to get off their backsides & support them?
You want your pubs back, your social lives…take them!!!
#Reopen #Pubs #restaurants #
Lockdown Measures In Spain, Denmark And The Netherlands Bring Citizens Out In Protest | CRUX
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmewEVzjOJQ
Several European countries have imposed fresh restrictions or tightened the COVID-19 preventive measures after the New Year. This has sparked violent protests in Denmark, the Netherlands and Spain.
Shock Poll Reveals HUGE Support For Trump Patriot Party
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XT7VkPv9RSk
… as the HUGE support for lockdowns?
The problem with the White Rose campaign is that the details are on Telegram which I and many others do not wish to sign up to. They need to have another platform to make the reopening a roaring success.
Try gab
I am very interested in the – Great Reopening – but it is very difficult to get details and information. Telegram does not work for me.
The YouTube video is helpful – and advises that there are info on local businesses (in each area) which will open on the 30th – and asking for support for them – but impossible to find this info ??
Really need some better comms on this – if you want support !!
How do we access more information on businesses which will take part in the Reopening on the 30yh ?
All businesses are essential to someone
Exactly. In a free democratic society, who dictates such definitions?
I was just reading about the summer festival season and how organizers have a mid-March deadline before they have to move or cancel events – but the main sticking point seems to be, as it was for our nursery last year, and discharges into care homes – insurance. I’m wondering if this is why Glasto was cancelled again, why there is so much enthusiasm for Gov restrictions and why lockdown skeptics are not cutting through the hysteria- businesses cannot get their losses back from insurance companies if restrictions are voluntary or ‘act of god’, but if the Gov mandate it, the Treasury must cover it. Is this response really all just about insurance?
👍🏼…. but don’t hold your breath. They’re still crashing through hedges when they see me coming sans mask.
Maybe you could ring a bell and yell „unclean! Unclean“ as you go along the sidewalk? 😛
Fauci Fiddling With His Mask
Tony Heller
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7jh_qRhhGw&list=WL&index=23
Dr. Fauci fiddling with his mask, potentially spreading a deadly virus all over the White House press room.
This on TOP of his well-received performance at that ball game, a few months back.
Highest-paid public servant, folks.
Yup.
Worth every penny.
Biden doing pretty much the same within this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LF6yyuJGspM
Welsh Police Threaten Local Dairy Farm Customers With Fines If They Don’t Use The Supermarket
https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/13.0.1/svg/1f926-200d-2642-fe0f.svg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CN9SmZ94xL8&list=WL&index=24
WE GOT A PROBLEM
Non compliance should be our motto. Take our lives back!
Again…80 customers with pitchforks and shovels will put a stop to that
Lockdown Measures In Spain, Denmark And The Netherlands Bring Citizens Out In Protest | CRUX
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmewEVzjOJQ
Several European countries have imposed fresh restrictions or tightened the COVID-19 preventive measures after the New Year. This has sparked violent protests in Denmark, the Netherlands and Spain.
ACE OF SPADES” on the 3-String Shovel!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tAEAyHgCec
Peter Hitchens has been censored by Talk Radio
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iST-7dtaIlg
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Global leaders have sent enough hints that they don’t trust Joe Biden
TFIglobal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRrjavn-N-g&list=WL&index=23
Joe Biden, within a week of assuming the White House, has angered every single US ally. Watch how.
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Murder Rates SURGE Across the Nation as Democrat Controlled Cities IMPLODE!!!
Dr. Steve Turley
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyvzkdCWiik&list=WL&index=22
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Democracy Dies In Fake News
Tony Heller
Documenting yet another year of fake news and Doublespeak from the Washington Post
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5S7qU6htYQ8&list=WL&index=21
Yes, but Orange Man Bad!!!
It’s crazy.
Bloody stupid headline this morning.Is this Lockdown Sceptics, or the Daily Express?
It’s shocking.
If I was paranoid, I would wonder if this site was morphing into a “come on” site to attract people who were Government critics for surveillance and bending purposes.
Lucky that I’m not a paranoid then.
I’ve started to think this of late. I must be mentally-ill as well.
I largely come here for the BTL commentary. Far more inspiring than the main updates these days. Something has rattled the editorial team, perhaps they’ve had a whiff of something unpleasant coming their way if they don’t tone it down?
I do suspect thats the case. I think we are increasingly being seen in the same way conscientious objectors in wartime are. People who are members of the awkward squad and are not willing to roll over and accept the lockdown juggernaut. I have certainly encountered greater hostility from some quarters since the turn of the year and I suspect there is much more of that to come. I am the bloody minded type who would never bend under pressure but not everyone is….maybe the reason for the toning down of the ATL articles are just down to that.
I complained to Toby et al. yesterday about the slipping narrative of the daily updates and the response wasn’t very encouraging. I said that lots of us were noticing it and weren’t happy. More should write in.
Roughly what was the gist of the response JASA? I have also noticed on ‘London Calling’ the same slipping narrative……not from James Delingpole of course but definitely from Toby. I do admire Toby in many ways but he does seem determined to see the good in everyone. Sadly there is not good in everyone….some people are evil bastards.
Like the Prime Minister.
You have to look very hard to find that! Maybe Toby has special glasses.
Toby still wants to get back into traditional politices.
News of the World.
We are finished when the leading piece on here just swallows the government propaganda wholesale.
It’s not even close to 100,000
SARCASM
The irony is that if it is to be believed (and I do not for one minute) it suggests the government’s handling of it all has been un utter disaster!
Of course, the fact that Piffles management has been a disaster is undeniable, but the corollary to that is Shmarmers ‘Lock down sooner, Lock down harder, Lockdown longer’ mantra will now become the accepted truth.
Yes its a bit like saying if only I had jumped off Beachy Head 2 weeks earlier the outcome would have been so different!
I had been taking a break from obsessing about the stats but had a look at the deaths stats yesterday.
What on earth is going on?
Spike in April, nothing in summer gradual rise as winter comes along then in December it goes utterly bonkers rising higher than April.
These are clearly dodgy figures. But why?
More testing? Probably.
More misdiagnosis? That too.
What do the overall death figures show?
But even with the dodginess of these official death figures could they be revealing vaccine deaths?
Agree.How many people are dying on average each day? How many die normally at this time of year.Then these numbers would have context.
6 million people and counting have been ‘vaccinated’.Even using Pfizer’s own figures there would have been deaths due to an adverse reaction.
Plenty of adverse reactions in my partner’s place of work (hospital). If you were old or frail, it could easily be enough to finish you off.
Overheard yesterday:
My friend’s dad died which was weird cos he had his jab.
Confers immortality, does it?
ADE anyone…? Cytokine storm?
Heart failure or septicaemia could be signs of a vaccine related death if antibody immune enhancement has occurred, according to Dr Lee Merrit.
Discussion on the mRNA vaccine from 17 minutes
.https://www.facebook.com/truthaspower/videos/777814312812420/
Coronavirus vaccines caused death after vaccination when the experimental animals (ferrets and cats) were exposed to the wild virus to see whether the vaccination created the expected immunity.
Instead the animals died from heart failure and overwhelming sepsis.
This was because the type of antibody that was created was non neutralising so instead of directing the immune system to destroy the virus, the antibody instead just coated the virus and made it easy for the virus to enter cells. Not just lung cells, where a respiratory virus would normally reside, but all the cells of the body, including the heart.
Such vaccines have NEVER been successfully made. The ones that are being used have only been tested for two months on humans, which is far to short a time to know whether the ADE reaction is likely to occur.(the reaction described in this post, antibody dependent enhancement)
https://www.facebook.com/truthaspower/videos/777814312812420/
Ah well the situation there is clear. Your friend caught scepticism from you, then gave it to his dad and that is why he died.
You just a murdering bastard like all those sceptics!
NB Google ‘irony’ before reporting the post.
About 1500 per day was normal for UK, pre Covid.
1500 is daily average for the year. Every Dec-Jan sees the rate goes up to around 2000 a day.
the overall all-cause mortality numbers WILL rise, as both vaccine and lockdown related deaths start to kick in [all attributed to covid, of course, which will eventually subsume and probably even overtake all-cause mortality]
Vaccine deaths, covid deaths… doesn’t matter. They are deaths because old and sick people die. Always have, always will. No cure for death! The scandal is they all get labelled covid to justify the authoritarian measures…
Deaths goes bonkers in December, nothing to do with the vaccine then!!
Latest Irreverend podcast, in which the excellent Jamie decides that it’s better to call himself ‘anti-lockdown’ than ‘lockdown sceptic’ because he thinks that lockdowns are morally wrong and would be utterly wrong even if they ‘worked’.
Brave man.
https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/irreverend-faith-and-current-affairs/id1528967755?i=1000506235097
Essential listening for the thinking Christian!
I’ve said it loads of times. The name of this site is not helpful.
Snap!
Ditto. But way back in the early bollox, nobody could say with absolute certainty that lockdowns didn’t ‘work’, so scepticism was the appropriate stance. And now LS is our name whereby we are known; is it worth changing it? I’m really not sure.
Lockdown itself always looked totalitarian to me – no matter what the reason is. The only part I think none of us could be certain about is Covid-19 itself. It’s foolhardy to suggest there is no coronavirus out there, but it’s equally stupid to say that it is anywhere near as dangerous as they’re desperately trying to make us believe. After almost a year, we can be pretty certain it’s not very dangerous at all, regardless of villainous ‘mutants’ that appear in perfect timing to inject a new boost of fear porn.
yes, it’s like saying ‘I’m a genocide-sceptic’
YES.
I am an anti all covid measures except those stated in the Great Barrington Declaration sceptic, but its not a very snappy title is it?
Hey, just reading back my own post that makes me an ‘antisceptic’ – which is probably why I am quite vulnerable but have never caught it.
I lost my ‘sceptism’ on 23rd March watching Johnson’s scary speech….you must stay at home etc. I have been a hardline anti lock downer ever since.
Exactly. My argument against lockdowns has always been based on individual rights and the concepts of ultra vires and proportionality. I also have a self-diagnosed narcissistic personality which means I tend to ignore rules that don’t suit me; but that is tempered, or so I flatter myself, by a moralistic and legalistic view of society. In concrete terms, when I drive a car I drive safely and within the speed limit not because I care about the law, but because I care about the right to life of other drivers and pedestrians. So when I ignore lockdown rules I do so not only because it is my right, but also because I don’t believe I am harming the rights of others.
Nonsense – you obviously care about the law or you would drive at a speed you thought was safe.
The only speed that is categorically safe is zero and only then if the car isn’t parked in a location where it is possible to be hit by another vehicle, falling meteorite, debris from a nearby gas explosion etc. In other words zero car related fatality is impossible but we’re going for zero Covid. Brilliant idea.
Yes. Someone on here BTL a few weeks ago described him/herself as a ‘lockdown abolitionist’, which I thought was apt.
Field Marshal Haig 1925
‘Some enthusiasts…….prophesied that the aeroplane, the tank and the motor-car would supersede the horse in future wars…….he believed that the value of the horse and the opportunity for the horse in the future were likely to be as great as ever.’
Whitty 2021
‘…scientists didn’t initially appreciate the importance of asymptomatic transmission, that they hadn’t supported widespread mask-wearing initially’
Good one.
” When the Prime Minister warned at a Downing Street Press briefing on Friday that the new variant “may increase” the Covid death rate by 30% (a “may” that was unravelling into a “maybe not” within 24 hours), all he did was give more ammunition to his enemy, the teaching unions. They must have been rubbing their hands; even more reason to claim that their members are not “safe” and schools shouldn’t reopen until September. That’ll be September 2023, knowing them.” In truth, Prof Freguson’s cynically-timed Friday afternoon briefing of Robert Peston on the supposed dangers of the new variant were calculated to give the PM no wriggle room on this. When is someone going to impose some of the usual committee disciplines on the members of Sage, i.e. members must not brief the press about the deliberations of the committee without the express permission of the committee chairman? Ultimately, of course, it’s Johnson’s responsibility to either make them toe the line on this, or to recognise that Sage has now become a political lobby group and abolish it. Doing nothing is just pathetic.
A complete rag tag bunch of mouthy zealots that have all gone rogue a long time ago. Pfeffel hasn’t got the skills or the inclination to intervene.
I can only conclude that our current PM wants these people to brief and leak. It suits his narrative which is that it’s all just dreadful and he’s had no choice but to rob us of most of our freedoms.
Daily Mail: Ex CPS chief Nazir Afzal instructs lawyers to consider Boris Johnson prosecution.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9190235/Ex-CPS-chief-Nazir-Afzal-instructs-lawyers-consider-Boris-Johnson-prosecution.html
I think we just need some sort of test in the court arena. Whatever angle that arrives from, I’m not overly concerned.
I’m afraid I believe this all to be a repulsive piece of theatre.
The propaganda is clearly hyping up for the next big push.
There will be increased intolerance of any dissent, and imposition of further dictatorial mandates.
Why is Johnson so sure deaths are going to rise? Does he have some way of ensuring this will happen?
I have thought for a while now that the weak point in the propaganda is that there are not enough real deaths to convince.
I still do not know anyone who has been in hospital with covid, let alone died from it – and this is over a year now.
The interview put up yesterday with Dr Lee Merrit explains how medicine can be weaponised.
https://www.facebook.com/truthaspower/videos/777814312812420/
Asymptomatic transmission is nothing more than one big lie.
So why are they telling obvious lies and why are doctors too frightened to correct this? This is totalitarianism.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euRwlrWV-0o&ab_channel=MikeRay
https://21stcenturywire.com/2020/08/23/dr-lee-merritt-dismantling-the-official-lies-of-the-covid-crisis/
With each passing day, more medical professionals and academics are coming forward in exposing the numerous official lies and misinformation being promulgated by government health officials, the mainstream media and their pharmaceutical corporate sponsors. The evidence against the popular mainstream ‘pandemic’ narrative is now overwhelming. The question now remains: how long until people demand that draconian legislation and lockdown policies are rolled back?
https://drleemerritt.com/
https://www.hartgroup.org/
https://hymnary.org/text/as_pants_the_hart_for_cooling_strea_tate
My favourite, with a slightly pagan tinge;
The tree of life my soul hath seen,
Laden with fruit and always green;
The trees of nature fruitless be,
Compared with Christ the Apple Tree.
His beauty doth all things excel,
By faith I know but ne’er can tell
The glory which I now can see,
In Jesus Christ the Appletree.
Beautiful tune to that one.
Don’t forget those deaths include people who had a positive test within 28 days of death so not necessarily dying due to COVID so the actual figure is a lot lower.
he would have to defend himself with reference to Sweden and the literature that says earlier lockdowns cause more harm etc
it would be hilarious
Yes I agree. He needs to be taken to task for all the deaths due to the lockdown.
The comments are remarkably supportive of Johnson, although the standard of literacy is weak. I am suspicious.
五毛党 colloquially known as the 50-cent army
I read that as execution instead of prosecution, you can see how my mind is working!.
Afzal resigned on principle!! from a very senior position in the CPS.
He took too long to implement communism.
A good collection. I might print out the bin one and paste it to my bin.
So, they did everything they could, did they? Does that include banning/suppressing HCQ, Ivermectin and other treatments that would have saved lives.
They suppressed liberty, sunshine and relationships. All non pharmaceutical, all free and all vital for health and wellbeing.
So true Tom. I walked into my front room last night and my wife had the news on sound off waiting for her program to start. Scenes from a hospital ward apparently. Fuck me there are a lot of people who are no strangers to the biscuit tin in there. So thanks for keeping us inside and shutting my gym my golf course, my tennis court and swimming pool.
I’m new here, but just wanted to ask:
Is there any way to break down this 100 000 into dying with Covid, and dying of Covid? The stats for underlying medical conditions, or having stats that would show number of days between the positive test and death, number of deaths in hospital?
I’m not asking for someone to give me the exact stats, but just wanted to have an idea if this is data is recorded and made available.
Tim Bidie’s post above gives some pointers re death data. To my mind the most definitive death information which should always be used and quoted as the starting point in any discussion of death stats is the ONS figure of total registered deaths.
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/bulletins/deathsregisteredweeklyinenglandandwalesprovisional/previousReleases
From that definitive total you can then try and analyse specific information.
Right, this is is something I’d expect to see on this site. Look at excess deaths (not the nonsense COVID figures) and the reasons for those, vs other years. All easily available data via ONS and PHE mortality report. Much more interesting than the government’s headline garbage.
Agreed. Why feed the troll?
Quite! And it would stop the trend among the less data-savvy sceptics who seem scared of these big headline numbers and so are saying never mind data! Lockdowns are just wrong!
They’re right that lockdowns are just wrong in a democracy, but wrong about data.
Data is all in this. We can crush the opposition with properly interpreted data. Compare year on year, adjusted by population and it’s really not scary at all. Unpleasant new virus settling to endemic levels no matter what any country or state does.
Thank you, I will have a look at the referenced post.
That’s interesting – if you go to 2. Deaths registered by week and then figure 2 you get a bar graph showing deaths where the disease was a contributing factor and deaths due to the disease. After note 9 there is a data download link and if you add up column G , you get 85321 whereas column F adds to 94132.
Does that mean that 85321/94132 x 100 =90% are from rather than with ?
I’m hoping to be prove wrong!
Since the PCR test is totally unreliable, the numbers mean nothing. Just invent your own numbers, they’ll just as likely be true.i.e. no chance!
With Peter Hitchens censored on Talk Radio and the bland leading articles on this site, would I be right in thinking we are now fighting a rearguard action against censorship and closure and that this site is having to tread very carefully to avoid being shut down? For a site called Lockdown Sceptics to discuss the death figures with no reference to total deaths, ONS registered death statistics, yearly variations in mortality rates etc etc. does seem remarkable.
From a philosophical point of view why should we be worried that a virus pops up that kills 0.15% of the population? is it not the job of Government to tell the people that this is life and death and this sort of thing happens, after all 99.85% of the UK population have not died of/with/maybe covid, so surely we got off lightly, we’ve all got to die some time. Now we are all caught up in this covid death cult and most deaths are labelled covid are we now stuck in this forever?
Well said. Only COVID deaths matter. Seems there is no end to this utter nonsense.
Since Carl Hennighan disappeared we do not have anybody looking deeply into the figures. Covid is a respiratory disease, so why would you die of cancer, heart failure? Its so frustrating, we can only go with government produced figures and we know how accurate they are. But this fear porn is shocking! Ramped up to 11 (and that’s a spinal tap 11). A group of psychologist writes to the government and….. nothing.
I heard that the ONS stats are compiled by Dominion machines in Canada. Fact check time.
The NHS is struggling due to fewer beds, fewer staff, a direct consequence of government interventions.
The medical profession, for good reason, has fully bought into the precautionary principle.
ONS data clearly shows that there is no pandemic, any rise in overall all cause mortality for 2020 readily explained by extreme government interventions and an annual population rise net of (at least) 400,000 per year over the last 20 years. See attached and Fig. 6 of reference:
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/bulletins/monthlymortalityanalysisenglandandwales/december2020
The blame for this shambles lies fairly and squarely at the feet of the government and its abject abnegation of leadership in the long term National interest.
By the way, South Korea has a modified PCR test optimised to distinguish between covid 19 and influenza…I would wonder whether the NHS has something similar but I think I already know the answer.
One would have thought that this would be an ideal area for the CEBM to bring its statistical analysis skills to bear on a sensible presentation of the data. Instead Carl Heneghan seems to have become one of the disappeared, the CEBM is sidelined, Peter Hitchens is censored.
My wife tries to stay quite sanguine about all this but even she says Uberfuhrer Johnson now reminds her of eeyore from Winnie the Pooh but a bit more gloomy. He seems completely bamboozled by all this hoo-haa.
If he’s Eeyore, does that mean we can all take turn pinning his tail back on?
Can’t just now. He’s sitting on his bum, taking a burst balloon out of an empty jar and putting it back again. It strains his intellectual capabilities, but he’s just about managing it.
as he puffs and wheezes into one of those party things that go poooooo and a paper tube thing rolls out, like a big flappy tongue.
pooooooooooooooooooo, pooooooooooooooooo
goes boris, sadly
Pin the tail on the donkey. A BBC Special.
Fur ihn ist der Krieg vorbei………
How dare she..we all know Eeyore has manic depression so we can excuse his beahaviour. Boris is just s scaremongering cunt ..I’m ashamed I voted for him 🙁
Hear hear, including endorsing your use of that epithet. No other word really. I’m fecking angry today.
Pleased to say I wasted my vote on the Independent last time (with about 1,000 others!) having voted out the Cons. locally, completely wiped out on town council although the Lab. and Lib. replacements are as bad. Perkin featured here a while back moaning about posters in windows of The Leading Light (‘spoons).
As Prof Dolores Cahill says no one needs to die from this disease. There are effective treatments available. D3, zinc, c, selenium etc plus HCQ, Ivermectin etc and they have been (intentionally?) suppressed. The blood is on their hands and this continues now with the roll out of an experimental medical treatment with incomplete trials and that has the potential to cause great harm for a number of people.
They are government.
Harm is their business.
We’re from the government, we’re here to help you. The botoxed horror Whitmer of Michigan actually had the gall to say “Everything I’ve done has been to keep you safe.” the other day. With a straight face of course, it’s the only one she’s got.
Some selenium rich foods:
The best selenium-richfoods include brazil nuts, halibut, cheese, mushroom, oat, oyster, asparagus, soybeans, chia seeds, salmon, brown rice, crabs, spaghetti, cabbage, broccoli, spinach, milk, yogurt, cashew, banana, garlic, tofu, turkey, pork, cod, spinach, wheat, and barley, among many others.
In the article responding to “The Myths of the Lockdowners” myth 3 references PCR testing and false positives. At the start of the pandemic the WHO recommended amplification for PCR testing at 40 cycles, despite best practice being in the range of 25-30 cycles. This was apparently based on advice from China which may or may not be true. I’m sure you are aware that PCR testing has never been used for the sort of mass testing now been carried out and in the past was used to confirm the presence of a virus after medical diagnosis i.e. not for indicating a person had a virus when not showing any symptoms. In July 2020, an MIT report stated that between 80% and 90% of positive “cases” at 40 amplifications would show negative at 30 amplifications. This has been widely reported in places outside the mainstream media and has not been refuted by any scientific sources as far as I can find out. Indeed, on the 14th of December 2020 the World Health Organization released a guidance memo warning that high cycle thresholds on PCR tests will result in false positives. Their recommendation is running only 25-30 cycles instead of 35… Read more »
They do appear to be cherry picking the WHO principles they want to follow don’t they, why is nobody asking this question in the HOC? But the truth is, they KNOW using the lower cycle rate would clear up most of the mess in the nhs. Unblocking beds and bringing staff back. The biggest question is why are they not doing it? Is it because it would bring their house of lies crashing down before they want it to? I just wished I could understand their end game?
They are stalling for time. Great Reset not ready yet.
Second Rate Wind Power Side-lined In China’s Coal-Fired Economic Miracle
https://stopthesethings.com/2021/01/27/second-rate-wind-power-side-lined-in-chinas-coal-fired-economic-miracle/
Calling Greta Thumbum, off you go to China dear. Let us know how you get on.
Don’t forget to take the likes of Emma Thompson. David Attenborough and Leonardo di Caprio with her too.
The truly scary thing is this Covid smokescreen is going to lead to
National suicide via the Green industrial revolution.
Don’t allow it to happen. Their ideas are absurd. They are insane. It’s a new Puritanism. Boring. The death of creativity and spontaneity. Read Albert Camus’s chapter on the Marquis de Sade in ‘The Rebel’.
I’m glad we have this site to report on the key points of the government’s press conferences, because I’d rather take a bath with my toaster than endure the ghastly theatrics of Johnson and Whitty. It’s all a total act you see, a carefully choreographed performance right down to the last “alas.” We know the 100K deaths is absolute bunkum. They’ve been inflating it for several months now, trying to justify the ruinous decisions they’ve made so they can point to this grim statistic and bleat “well, it was a pretty serious pandemic! What would YOU have done in the midst of a national crisis?” It’s also a great headline for our parasitic mainstream media to latch onto, and as sure as night follows day, millions of Covid zombies up and down the country will be parroting “100K dead, how terrible. Better get my vaccine.” You can bet your last pound that every scaremongering scientist, politician or talking head will now shoehorn the magical 100K figure into every interview until the next gory milestone is achieved. Interesting that Whitty focuses on masks and asymptomatic transmission as the key areas where they have failed. It’s a clever trick – he’s further… Read more »
Spot on!
Yes, really excellent summary, thanks.
The Nazis blew up gas chambers, ploughed up at least one death-camp site (Treblinka) and pretended it was a farm, and sent prisoners on death marches in a desperate attempt to cover up their worst crimes, but they failed.
Truth will out. In a few years’ time, ‘Lockdown disaster denial’ will itself be a crime.
And I think I know what will be on the cover of the first book of denunciatory essays: that foul little man who stopped two sons comforting a widow at her husband’s funeral. The image of our times.
Aha! But SINGLE masks DON’T work! “Three is the number thou shalt count!” Can this possibly be real? Found it on Twitter: https://www.cnbc.com/video/2021/01/25/is-a-double-mask-really-better-than-a-single.html
A plastic bag hermetically sealed around head and tied with duct tape is the most efficient and must be encouraged.
As long as no pleasure is derived.
surely the 100,000 destroys their point about lockdown working. the more they go on about how many died (because they want to scare us to make us comply with lockdown), the more it looks like the policy has failed.
the longer we lockdown, the more we pull ahead of no-lockdown Sweden in the ‘death stakes’
Indeed – that’s why I think, outside of court cases, the whole thrust of our argument needs to be that lockdowns don’t work.
Not only because that is now becoming very obvious, but also because it spikes the emotional guns of the enemy.
If we argue about deaths “with or of”, or point out more people died in the 2000s etc – we just get accused of being heartless and have the numbers of dead thrown at us. Reason goes out of the window.
But if we say “fewer people would have died if we hadn’t locked down. Look at Sweden” Then it is now they who are heartless and killing granny.
It’s the only way to win the argument while we are still in a moral panic. The other stuff can wait for the reckoning that is to come once the war is over.
It’s not just lockdowns it’s all the supposed safety measures such as distancing and masks/visors. They don’t have an effect when you look at real data. Even natural measures such as washing your hands doesn’t seem to be that significant.
But because of Health and Safety and liabilities it seems that it’s bred a paranoia that is preventing people seeing things for what they are. Once the measures are relaxed I’m wondering what the reflections are going to be.
Truth be told, the visors are kinda growing on me. I see them as a useful visual cue to give this person a wide berth in case they forget how to walk, soil themselves or inexplicably melt.
I’m also toying with the belief that people have been so brow beaten by Health & Safety zealots that they’re embracing not being on the receiving end for once and taking to enforcement with relish.
I simply cannot understand why more people – and especially good-looking YOUNG people – don’t wear transparent muzzles. Wouldn’t YOU if you had a face worth bragging about, worth putting in display?
Were I twenty years younger, I most certainly wouldn’t hide my good looks behind these disgusting creepy paper bags. Would YOU?
And I wouldn’t wear a .. WTF! transparent F’in Muzzle.. gawd!!
That’s exactly why I don’t wear a mask in work…
*winks*
100% agree
The chart below has really turned a few of my friends. ‘Look at R and tell me the effect of lockdown’
One friend said – “R was coming down before lockdown because of handwashing, some social distancing, fear, wfh etc’. I said ‘Precisely! lockdown was superfluous but comes with massive costs’
Darwin only knows what this graph is but, if it shows the so-called ‘R’ number, there is no such thing. It’s just an invention of modellers.
Yes – but since this ‘R’ number has been sold to the Great Unwashed as being something important, then it’s good that its lessening should be displayed as being a positive thing.
They are simple, BBC thralls so they really should be challenged with things like this. Though I’m not sure the word ”challenged” is helpful with people like that.
(And I have a much-loved cousin who is one of them.)
Someone posted this interesting graph yesterday.
But, Steve, imagine how many it would have been without lockdown.[sarc] I think the aim is to be able to give Ferguson’s original predictions credibility and to disguise their own ineptitudes ….if it means sacrificing people, their livelihoods and society, by lies and manipulation to achieve that then nothing is beyond them.
No no no you don’t understand, the reason the death toll is so high is we didn’t lock down hard enough, or early enough, or long enough, or broadly enough…
Well said. My blood is at boiling point. They have to come down, be prosecuted in a court of proper law and stripped of their wealth and thrown into prison for the rest of their lives. Johnson, Whitty, Ferguson, Hancock, the whole lot. Throw them to the lions.
Do you want to poison lions? As a wildlife enthusiast I really must protest.
A Daniel come to judgement!
I wonder if they know in what disgust, abhorrence and loathing they are held.
I doubt it – because I really believe their minions and myrmidons protect them for fear of their own positions, or even lives – who can say how far this will go?
Surely any normal person, recognising that what they had done to damage their own society, would feel some sort of drive to put it right? Or perhaps even feel a fear of being called on to account for their actions? They’re not ”normal” or they would indeed feel that ”fear”.
I really find it hard to understand the mindset of people like this. Unless we look to Nazi Germany – which I really don’t want to do – I wonder how they can square things with their own consciences…
Spot on. I’m truly amazed that people are so naive. 100,000 deaths – total rubbish! Simply a carefully choreographed exercise for the media.
I note that many comments today relate to the highly inflated figure of 100K Covid deaths. But wouldn’t it have greater impact to say “Yes but 500K or more died of other causes last year, and that is perfectly normal in UK.”
Easier to put the 100K into context rather than argue that it should be 50K or 70K….
So right Ken, how many deaths have been caused by lockdown. Directly attributed to the actions of this government? So every poor sod who has died at home, every cancer patient whose cancer is now terminal, and every single suicide, my best friends mum who had a stroke and was sent home to die rather than getting the treatment she needed, all down to the fat pig dictator.
You should have heard the statistician talking to Shelagh Doherty on LBC earlier. He reckoned it’s nearer 120K.
What I’d give to see them both impregnated with a PCR machine set to 45 cycles.
Small mercies, she said she started wearing a mask outside when the Kent variant came to light. A face made for the radio and masks.
I laughed so much at your remark, “I would rather take a bath with my toaster…”. This sums up exactly how I feel about all those murderers in power, I can’t look at their faces and hate them more every day. I have had strange looks from some people when I call them murderers, my response is always, just because you don’t use a gun or a knife doesn’t mean that you can’t kill someone.
Someone posted this link yesterday. To hell with arguing about angels dancing on a pin. Great reopening, (great). Great never closing again (greater).
Henna Maria – The Ten Stages of Genocide (bitchute.com)
Great comment. Great writing too.
Brilliant
The Guardian detests Johnson, but not for the same reasons that we do.
Whitty on masks and asymptomatic infectiousness is the new definition of ‘doubling down on a lie due to the sunk cost fallacy’.
Even my 84 year old dad, whose watched BBC News most of his life has balked at Clive Myrie’s and the BBC’s voyeristic, ghoulish, manipulative and morbid reporting of Covid and now just reads the newspapers instead.
He’s making a slow move to scepticism and asked me, “what’s happened to flu?”
What happened to the flu? It was largely repackaged as Covid-19. So was pneumonia. That is what happened to the flu. The true percentage of people having died of Covid-19 may be so ludicrously low that it would make people’s head spin.
I would go with zero myself. go with the assumption that EVERYTHING they say is ONE AUDACIOUSLY BIG FAT LIE
Good. Sentient. Covidiots: ‘the flu has disappeared due to face diapers, distancing, lockdowns’.
Realist: ‘so how does the CV 19 spread?.
Covidiots: ‘lockdowns, diaper wearing, distancing, not tough enough, not enforced enough, asymptomatic spreading…’.
Realist: ‘you have had 9 months of diapers and 1 year of LD’s and the proof is that people are still dying of CV 19 and how can you spread a disease if you don’t have it or are not sick…maybe we need to try something else?’
Covidiot: ‘we probably need isolation camps, mandatory vaxx’s, maybe microchips, wearing of surgical masks for a long time….’
And the lockdownistas don’t realise that they’re simply going round in circles.
Jesus wept.
We magically cured the flu after 7000 years..just like that..Overnight, have you not been watching the news? Also influenza-cured, pneumonia -cured, cancer -cured , same with ebola… Basically the only disease that can KILL YOU is Covid now.
Covid cures all those things so, if we can just defeat the virus, we can all live for ever.
All these things are gone now because we have all been so safe and sensible.
My 85 year old dad started out a bit sceptical and I was able to discuss things with him in a reasonable way but his addiction to the BBC (and LBC) has made him succumb to the paranoia. Now, he seems to think I’m just being contrary for the sake of it (like I used to be when I was a teenager).
I attribute the change in him not merely to Govt./MSM propaganda but to the fact that his previously active social life has been stolen from him. He doesn’t see anybody to talk to anymore I am 300 miles away. It’s just him and my mum at home and she is suffering from vascular dementia so, for much of the time, he is effectively alone. He doesn’t use the internet for anything but Amazon and Spotify so the TV and radio are his only connection to the outside world. The Mind-Snatchers have got him and at the moment I can’t get him back. I’m not giving up, though.
Same with mine.
I haven’t spoken to my dad since Myrie’s disgusting performance on the BBC News last night. It is inevitable that he will have watched that and I suspect he will bring the subject up when we speak later this evening. I don’t want to argue with my dad but I won’t be able to let it go, if he does. Perhaps I’d better pretend it’s a bad line and get out of it that way.
This one in particular – bravo!
I smiled as one of the two Pharmacists at Tescos in Uckfield, yesterday, took off her mask to make a phone call, behind the counter, in full view of the public.
SAYS IT ALL!!!!
I chuckled recently when a masked Tesco employee tried several times to make an announcement over the PA system. Couldn’t understand what he was saying of course.
Did anyone immediately die from the raging infectious spread? Maybe if they were Hindoo they had asymptomatic Malaria – no symptoms, but of course they are still spreading it?
Your post can’t be worse than NHS adverts. Please stay. I always enjoy reading your comments.
Seconded. Your posts are always worth reading, and help many of us, I feel sure I can say, in our struggle as individual moonbeams in the larger lunacy. And you’ve seen hypocrisy on this site and called it out- which has been instructive. Free Speech Union, eh?
I hope this bears repetition.
16 million small business and self employed workforce.
16.5 million public sector workforce and retired public sector.
If one accepts that the former largely voted this government into power and the latter largely voted against minus those who could not vote for Corbyn:
How many votes would this government get today?
The Conservative Party’s thoughts should now be turning towards renaming themselves……
24 million in the private sector. Take away the Hindoo’s magic money UBI for 9 million, the REAL unemployment is closer to 5 mn or about 20% of the private workforce. Of course, gov’t is no doubt ‘hiring’ more parasites and BAME devotees.
But there’s no opposition to vote for. They can’t vote for Starmer, and there’s no other party at present to vote for. This is a de facto marxist take over – both parties are intent on the same destruction of the country. Your vote doesn’t count.
The idea that the Conservative government is Marxist is weird.
Yes – however, their policies are Marxist and have been for many years.
Homework:
1) How many tenets of the Communist Manifesto have been implemented
2) How many were by Tories
It’s certainly isn’t Conservative!
I wish I had voted for Corbyn now. he could not have done any worse, and there is a chance that maybe his brother would have talked some sense into him
I feel like that. I doubt Corbyn would have been as bad at Bozo.
Too simplistic I think. The idea that the Tory party have ever been the friend of small businesses is laughable. They have always been the party of inherited wealth, public school nepotism and Big business. Not a true free market party at all. Likewise Labour the polar opposite. Both with their special interest large lobby groups. I am no fan of Corbyn (J) at all but I think he would have been far more questioning of some of these astonishing contracts awarded than Starmer who is utterly useless. Lisa Nandy would have been a far better choice in many ways. Unfortunately there is no Paddy Ashdown or Charlie boy in the Liberals (I am sure would have had a sceptical viewpoint from the civil liberties point of view) alas at the moment so things are grim indeed. What I find very worrying is the little focus on the economic situation at the moment in the MSM-it is there tucked away in various business sections in the press but no prominence is given to it in headline part of the papers.There are still so many people completely in utter ignorance of the true state of play. There are a lot of… Read more »
Yes and the fact that whenever a journalist asked Sage or the chuckle brothers about the economy they always say, that’s not our responsibility. WHAT! But then let’s flip that and ask well whose responsibility is it? Is that your job Dishi Rishi? Well why is he not on radio 4 and GMB doing a Frazer (were all doomed)? An economists goes to the msm to say how lockdown sceptics are wrong and tries to disprove our reasons for lockdown. But then says fuck all about the catastrophic effect on the economy.
Paranoia strikes deep
Into your life it will creep
It starts when you’re always afraid
Step out of line, the men come and take you away
We better stop
Hey, what’s that sound?
Everybody look, what’s going down?
According to the ONS, around 87% of Covid related fatalities happen in hospitals and care homes. Ok, so surely the main point of comparison should be MRSA and sepsis. Very frail and sick people, get horrible additional thing due to unsanitary and badly operated hospitals that then is a contributing factor towards death.
Can you imagine a few years ago, when the press was sneaking cameras in to snap old people in hospital corridors and calling for urgent change, if the government turned around and said we should close schools, jobs, rip families apart and lock ourselves at home for a year whilst clapping the NHS.
Incredible.
I saw the post that has now been deleted.
It was drawing a historical parallel.
A bit close to the bone? Maybe. But if people aren’t seeing the parallels then we are in serious trouble.
We are being painted as enemies of the state. We are being dehumanised and all the ills of the moment are being placed on us to detract from the failings of the authorities.
A bit of hyperbole is useful to shock people out of their complacency.