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by Will Jones
29 January 2021 4:23 AM

Government Planning “Phased” Exit Strategy

Bob Moran’s cartoon in the Telegraph on January 15th

The Telegraph reports that ministers are working on a “three-stage” plan to end lockdown in Britain, with officials preferring a phased approach where restrictions are eased at least a month apart so the impact can be monitored.

Schools will not open until March at the earliest, Boris Johnson has said, as the Government works on a “three-stage plan” to release Britain from lockdown.

The Telegraph understands that officials are working on proposals which could see most shops closed until April, and pubs and restaurants shut until May. 

On Wednesday, Mr Johnson announced that schools will not reopen before March 8th, and even that would depend on the success of the vaccine rollout and the rate of COVID-19 deaths and cases. 

Promising to publish a “roadmap” on February 22nd, he said that would allow Britain to “begin steadily to reclaim our lives”.

No rush, eh.

The Mail reports today that the slow pace may be because the Government wants to lift restrictions nationally rather than returning to local tiers to avoid spread from hotspots (and annoying Andy Burnham). This will mean no areas can reopen until the worst hit area in the country is free of infection.

The saddest part is they still think they can “control” the virus.

An NHS Nurse Writes…

Patients wait on hospital trolleys in a corridor in December 2017 due to the wards being completely full

A Lockdown Sceptics reader and registered nurse who has been working in NHS hospitals throughout the crisis has written the following article for us about his experience.

Matt Hancock said that there are 37,475 patients in hospitals in the UK with coronavirus – yet no context was offered. So there are approximately 120,000 NHS beds in England, which would make Hancock’s figure around 30% of NHS England bed capacity (and that’s not taking into account bed capacity of Wales, Scotland or Northern Ireland). That also doesn’t take into account extra potential capacity from private hospitals nor the Nightingale hospitals. A headline grabbing statistic like “37,000 Covid admissions” might sound alarming, but without context it is meaningless.

It is also important to stress that this figure of 37,475 are patients admitted for any health reason, with a positive PCR test on admission or within the last 14 days – it is definitely not 37,000 patients who are unwell with Covid respiratory symptoms.

Patients are tested on admission to determine whether to be put in “green” or “red” areas. I have seen first-hand patients admitted to hospital for completely unrelated conditions, nil Covid symptoms, but have a positive PCR test on admission. These go down as “Covid admissions” but they are actually admitted for conditions completely unrelated to the respiratory system, such as heart failure or kidney disease.

I am sure by now we all have known somebody who has had a positive Covid test result but no symptoms. This is true also for hospitalised patients being admitted for other reasons – massively inflating the “Covid admission” numbers.

I have also had first-hand experience of patients who have been admitted into hospital for an unrelated reason, and caught Covid whilst there (nosocomial infection)  – and then they also go down in the NHS statistics as Covid admissions.

Hancock’s figures without context are not only unhelpful, they are misleading the public.

Surprisingly, NHS bed occupancy rates are at relatively low levels for this time of year. So are the staff on the wards lying? No they are not. I know first-hand how busy it feels, but I see four main reasons to explain why it feels so busy:

(1) Staff self-isolating – this is causing huge numbers of staff to be off work. I feel the impact of this first-hand in my ward. On a regular basis we have staff awaiting a test, as they or someone in their household has a symptom, however mild. I am sure most my colleagues are genuinely concerned not to be infected and pass it on to their vulnerable patients, so are acting ultra cautiously. But there is also room to milk the system, as it is fully paid time off work, and not counted as “sick leave”. Nurses are absolutely hard working people – but we are only human too, not saints. As soon as the decision is made to get a test, then we cannot return to work until PCR tested and the result comes back negative. Reduced staffing is causing the NHS significant strain.

(2) Thousands of NHS beds have been removed. This is not due to budget cuts this time (which in fact have reduced NHS beds significantly year on year) but due to social distancing requirements. I have experienced this first-hand: the hospitals I work in have removed beds for social distancing regulations, which has meant the departments fill up much quicker, and can cause backlog in the system.

(3) Regulations such as donning and doffing PPE (which is actually very time consuming when done properly) – and segregating patients in “green zones” or “red zones” – causes logistical problems, making workloads much busier and much more stressful.

(4) A huge amount of bed capacity has been lost due to a lack of NHS funded nursing home beds. Previously, the NHS funded beds in nursing homes to take “medically fit” elderly who were awaiting care packages to begin from social services – these beds were referred to as “hub beds” in my Trust. However, at the moment this option seems to be unavailable (for understandable reasons, as nursing homes were not “Covid safe” environments during the spring). This results in “bed blocking” in the hospital, and causes a backlog further down, ultimately filling A&E.

I’m not saying that hospitals are not busy – they are incredibly busy, particularly ICUs in London and the South East. What I am saying is the amount of patients coming in to the hospitals is not unprecedented. It is the policy decisions that are making this period feel unprecedented, and not the actual crude work load.

This is so important to understand as the severe restrictions on our lives are justified in order to “protect the NHS”. I therefore feel obligated to speak out, as how I am experiencing my work within the NHS is not quite how the media is portraying it.

The image above is from December 2017. It is a photograph of patients on hospital trolleys due to the wards being completely full – the NHS was in crisis. Yet we didn’t realise how good we had it – back then we had no staff self-isolating, more hospital beds, no routine time-consuming PPE requirements, and better discharge flow of patients out of hospitals. It is decisions by NHS policymakers that are making this winter feel so much worse.

A Senior Scientist Writes…

Professor Susan Michie, who sits on both SAGE and Independent SAGE and is a member of the Communist Party

A Lockdown Sceptics reader who is a senior scientist has done a fact check on the claims of two psychologists who sit on SAGE.

In a January 9th BBC report – “Lockdown needs to be stricter, scientists warn” – Professor Robert West (of the SPI-B subgroup of SAGE) said the current rules were “still allowing a lot of activity which is spreading the virus”. Professor Susan Michie (also of SAGE, and also Independent SAGE, and a Community Party member) said the spread of the new more infectious variant meant the restrictions were “too lax”.

Oops…

Daily positive cases in England

This time round we have seen a relaxing of the restrictions compared with March. Many business are open this time that were closed last time, roads are busy, yes schools are closed, but in some areas more than 50% are attending. Yet still the virus has receded.

 What hasn’t changed since March? Those in care homes and hospitals are not being protected.

 Care Homes:

  • Since September 1st there have been 5,496 (35%) care home outbreaks
  • In the three weeks to January 17th there were 1,948 outbreaks
  • Nearly a third of all Covid deaths have been among care home residents

Hospital-Acquired Infections (HAIs) rates:

  • There have been 11,376 HAIs in January (January 1st to 24th), 14.1% of all admissions
  • Mortality in HAIs likely very high – likely approaching 50%

Who has lockdown protected? From the ONS:

There were 7,961 deaths involving COVID-19 in the working-age population (age 20 to 64 years) of England and Wales registered between March 9th and December 28th 2020. When looking at broad groups of occupations, men who worked in elementary occupations (699 deaths) or caring, leisure and other service occupations (258 deaths) had the highest rates of death involving COVID-19, with 66.3 and 64.1 deaths per 100,000 males, respectively.

I’d call this focused protection for the well-off and not for those that require protecting.

Council of Europe Decrees Vaccines Must Not be Mandatory and the Non-Vaccinated Must Not be Discriminated Against

The European Court of Human Rights, part of the Council of Europe

The Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe – the international body of which the European Court of Human Rights is a part (not to be confused with the EU, and of which Britain remains a member) – has passed a resolution that vaccines must not be mandatory and no one should suffer discrimination on account of not having been vaccinated. It reads:

7.3 with respect to ensuring high vaccine uptake:

7.3.1 ensure that citizens are informed that the vaccination is NOT mandatory and that no one is politically, socially, or otherwise pressured to get themselves vaccinated, if they do not wish to do so themselves;

7.3.2 ensure that no one is discriminated against for not having been vaccinated, due to possible health risks or not wanting to be vaccinated;

While most of the resolution is a depressing regurgitation of Covid orthodoxy (“non-pharmaceutical interventions have helped slow down the spread of the virus”, “following the festive season, with its traditional indoor gatherings, infection rates will likely be very high in most member States”, “the vaccines will no doubt not be sufficient to bring down infection rates significantly this winter… A semblance of ‘normal life’ will thus not be able to resume until mid to late 2021 at the earliest” “the Assembly urges member States to take early effective measures to counter misinformation, disinformation and hesitancy regarding COVID-19 vaccines”) this clear statement of the longstanding principle that medical treatment should be voluntary is welcome.

Unfortunately, some people have other ideas. Matthew Lynn in the Telegraph wrote a shocking article, arguing that “no jab, no job policy should be the law“.

There are lots of jobs where you can’t work from home, and plenty of factories and offices that will remain closed if people don’t get vaccinated. Of course, no one should be forced to take the vaccine if they don’t want to. But they have to accept it may limit their employment options. Businesses already face plenty of uncertainty without the additional anxiety of a blizzard of legal claims.

The solution is simple. Parliament should legislate for no jab, no job this week – and that way everyone will know where they stand and can start planning for the future…

Of course, no one should be forced to take the shot if they don’t want to. There is an argument for mandatory vaccination, but it is a huge infringement of civil liberties, and we have probably seen enough of those in the past year to last a lifetime. People should be free to choose. But that doesn’t mean there shouldn’t be any consequences of their decision.

There are plenty of countries where you are only allowed in with a vaccination certificate, and it is up to you whether you want to travel there or not. In the same way, anyone who prefers not to be vaccinated may have to accept it limits their employment opportunities. If they don’t like that, tough…

Parliament should pass a one-line bill this week making it clear that it is legal to discriminate on the grounds of whether a person has been vaccinated against COVID-19, and that no claims on the grounds of unfair dismissal will be accepted. That will settle the matter once and for all, and stop the employment lawyers and unions in their tracks.

Meanwhile, Germany’s vaccine committee has said that the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine should only be given to under-65s, stating there is “insufficient data to judge how effective the vaccination is above 65 years”. This is a blow for the vaccine which is much cheaper and easier to store than others like Pfizer’s and Moderna’s, and which Britain is relying on heavily for its reopening strategy, meaning we need it to work among the most vulnerable. The European Medicines Agency’s decision is due later today.

Stop Press: The Novavax vaccine has been found to be 89% effective and to work well against the Kent Covid variant in trials. It will now go to be considered for approval by the MHRA. Britain has 60 million doses on order, which will be produced at Stockton on Tees, and if approved it will take Britain’s vaccine doses total to 217 million. The Novavax vaccine is closer to a traditional type of vaccine than the mRNA Pfizer and Moderna vaccines, containing purified pieces of the spike protein that are administered with an adjuvant, a molecule that enhances the immune response.

Stop Press 2: New research in Israel suggests the Pfizer vaccine with both doses administered is “99.96% effective”.

“You Might As Well Use Your Passport for Target Practice”

Professor Sharon Peacock thinks the possibility of new Covid variants means restrictions need to continue indefinitely

There follows a guest post by Lockdown Sceptics regular Guy de la Bédoyère

Since the spirit of the age is “following the science”, it’s good to have an idea where the science is leading us. Radio 4’s World at One January 28th interviewed Professor Sharon Peacock of the University of Cambridge, executive director of the COVID-19 Genomics UK (COG-UK) consortium.

This is a transcript of the latter part of the interview. Nothing Professor Peacock said about COVID-19 should occasion any surprise since the potential risks to life from this virus and its mutated forms she outlined have always existed with respect to any virus and will always exist, though she made all this sound like a new discovery. Like everyone else I have lived with the risk of viruses since I was born but am lucky enough to live in a time when vaccines were at least one way of reducing that risk and allowing us to lead normal lives.

Not any more apparently. Now the science would have it that vaccines apparently no longer have that power. I shall be there to receive my vaccine when the invitation arrives, but according to Professor Peacock it isn’t going to be quite the game-changer the Prime Minister said it would be.

What appears to have changed is that this version of the science would like us to close the borders on what seems to be a totally open-ended basis and predicated on the notion that a vaccine-resistant, highly transmissible COVID-19 variant that causes far more severe illness might be mutating into existence right this minute. So indeed it might, but whether that means we should spend our lives gibbering with terror and hiding in our houses is another matter altogether.

Professor Peacock apparently cannot see an end in sight for COVID-19 and even if there was to be an end, I was left in no doubt that her fears will simply be transferred to something else.

I don’t know what your holiday plans were this year, next year, or at any time probably for most of the rest of your life, but if the government follows this advice you might as well use your passport for target practice.

Sarah Montague: The vaccine programme is going well in the UK, and it suggests there might be light at the end of the tunnel. But I wonder whether that light is brighter if you shut the borders?

Sharon Peacock: Well, through sequencing what we’ve shown is a very clear signal of importations both in Wave 1 and in Wave 2. And so COG-UK, which is the consortium that I lead, undertook sequencing of viruses from people in the first wave, and then they compared those sequences to see where they may have actually come from. And we know that from that study there were at least 1,300 importations into the country around the half-term during spring. Now, that’s an underestimate because we only sequenced around 10 percent of all the viruses or possible cases and that when we looked at that it was from Spain, Italy, and France predominantly. So we know that importation is really important and during the second wave we saw the importation of another tranche of variants, not of particular concern but new lineages coming into the country in the second wave again largely through holidaymakers and so I think it’s a natural conclusion that border control is absolutely central to control of disease. I think you don’t really need the genomics to prove that but the genomics has been categorical in showing that importation is really vital in terms of COVID-19 spreading in our population

SM: So, you’d like to see borders closed? The logic is that borders should close?

SP: The logic is there but that is not my decision, that of course is a decision for the Government.

SM: What is it that keeps you awake at night, at this stage of the pandemic?

SP: It has to be the emergence of a variant that is fully resistant to circulating vaccines that is also highly transmissible. That would be extremely problematic. I think that if it also had the characteristic that it also caused more severe disease then that would also worry me very much, but we are not there at the moment. That’s certainly what we’re on the look out for every day.

SM: And given your experience with other viruses, how likely is that?

SP: I think it’s really unpredictable. I’m very loath to draw on past experiences because I think there’s been so many surprises in relation to this particular virus. Instead I think I’d much rather look at the practical side of making sure that we have got all the tools in place to watch for emerging variants that could be of concern and bringing to a close the clusters of cases of people who have a virus that could be more resistant than others.

SM: So much is unknown and so much can’t be predicted but what is your assessment of when we are going to be largely out of this?

SP: As a scientist and a geneticist I would say that we have a very long-term job on our hands. I don’t think that I’m going to put a figure on that. All I know is that we have work ahead of us to continue to monitor mutations.

SM: For years ahead?

SP: Years, yes. I think it’s very unlikely that this virus is just going to disappear off the planet.

So, er, just like all the other viruses we have learned to live with in the past without shutting everything down which haven’t disappeared off the planet either? I don’t know how she sleeps at night.

What this interview illustrated very effectively is the monumentally difficult decisions the government is facing. Either it carries on ‘following the science’ in a perpetual hunt for total risk-free safety, ridden with fear of the theoretical Vaccine-Resistant Killer Super-Virus that Professor Peacock, who I am sure is an outstanding scientist in her field, is petrified of night and day; or it weighs up risk against quality of life and returns to normality on the basis the Killer Virus might never happen. Who’s to say what’s the right path to take?

It was, perhaps, one of those cases in which advice is good or bad only as the event decides.

Jane Austen, Persuasion, chapter 23

But I suppose the real question is: if we cut ourselves off from a life worth living to protect us from the theoretical Killer Super-Virus which then indeed duly turns up, whether by then anyone left will care one way or the other?

Sceptics Under Fire

A Lockdown Sceptics reader copied us into his letter to the Evening Standard complaining about its unbalanced reporting of the criticism of Sir Desmond Swayne MP. We reproduce it here.

Dear Evening Standard,

I refer to an article about the recent comments made by MP Desmond Swayne on your website. The entire piece is written in a highly biased way, and attempts unfairly to conflate Mr Swayne’s anti-lockdown stance with anti-vax and Covid-denialist views. This is apparent in the headline, in which Swayne’s name is used alongside the term “anti-vaccine”, despite the fact that within the article itself Mr Swayne clearly declares his support for the vaccination programme. The lead paragraph goes on to state that Mr Swayne has been “accused of spreading ‘dangerous misinformation’” and that he “urged anti-vaccination campaigners to continue fighting against restrictions and told them NHS capacity figures were being ‘manipulated’.” Whilst taken as a whole the article does provide both viewpoints, the prominence given to the misrepresentations of Swayne’s views and the tendentious vocabulary used in the headline and early sections of the piece are a clear attempt to damn him by association. I note that a similar negative framing has occurred on other articles on your site (e.g. here).

The first article goes on to mention comments made by Swayne in November 2020, when he stated that Covid figures were “bouncing round at the typical level of deaths for the time of year”. What is the relevance of mentioning something that he said three months ago before the winter spike? The second article also quotes his November remarks at length. The first piece goes on to state that “Sir Desmond has denied that he is opposed to vaccinating people to protect them against the virus. But he has previously labelled lockdowns a ‘complete failure’.” The ‘but’ here is crucial, implying that there is a link between anti-vaxxers and anti-lockdowners. Why are you attempting to draw a link between the two viewpoints, as if they have anything in common?

The article goes on to quote, uncritically, two people who oppose his views (or rather, their misconstrual of his views). I note that no supporters of Mr Swayne are mentioned or quoted. The Labour MP Angela Rayner (CC’d) is quoted as saying that Swayne has “endorsed conspiracy theories” (false) and that he has stated that Covid statistics have been manipulated “for which there is no evidence” (debatable – the fact that anyone dying within 28 days of a positive test counts as a Covid death means that inevitably the death figure ends up being somewhat inflated – whether that counts as “manipulation” is a matter of debate). She goes on to imply that he doesn’t support the vaccination programme – an out and out lie. Imran Ahmed of the CCDH (CC’d) is also quoted, saying that Swayne has “lended [sic] legitimacy to crank Anti-Vaxxers and peddlers of falsehoods” (false) and that “turning science into a political football is a Trumpian act of grotesque irresponsibility” (Swayne did no such thing – he is merely holding the Government to account, something the media should be doing). As an aside, I fail to see the relevance of seeking views from a man who runs an anti-hate speech organisation when we are discussing matters of Covid policy.

A narrative has been created by various governments which aims to conflate those who oppose lockdown measures (for a variety of reasons) with the minority of Covid-denialists, conspiracy theorists, anti-vaxxers and the like, a narrative which has been eagerly propagandised by a largely compliant media. The overwhelming number of people who oppose lockdowns are not conspiracy theorists, but merely concerned citizens opposed to the wanton destruction of our economies, our children’s’ education, mass unemployment, business failures, the stripping away of our basic rights on an indefinite basis, the deliberate stoking of fear and hysteria, and the McCarthy-esque witch-hunting of those holding dissenting views. Your deliberate misrepresentation of Mr Swayne’s comments is a clear attempt to damn by association anyone who opposes lockdown, and is unfit for a news organ that seeks to report the news in a fair and impartial manner.    

Sincerely,    

D Martin

Stop Press: Disappointingly, Leader of the House of Commons Jacob Rees-Mogg has backed Neil O’Brien in his anti-sceptic witch-hunt. The Byline Times reports, in typically even-handed style.

Speaking yesterday on his regular podcast with the blog ConservativeHome, Leader of the House of Commons Jacob Rees-Mogg expressed admiration for O’Brien.

“People should be held to account for what they say, and I think Neil has done a fantastic job and has influenced the debate by putting the facts forward,” he said, adding that, “in an era of fake news, it is important that people challenge news and put the alternative points of view, or correct facts.”

Rees-Mogg also said that the Harborough, Oadby and Wigston MP has been making his arguments forcefully on WhatsApp groups populated by Conservative MPs. “Neil has also been putting very helpful pieces of information on Conservative WhatsApp groups, so that Conservative MPs see the arguments as well,” he said.

O’Brien has gained prominence on Twitter in recent weeks, after directing fire at a number of prominent lockdown sceptics, most notably commentator Toby Young and talkRADIO host Julia Hartley-Brewer. He has been particularly assiduous in pointing out the false wisdom of lockdown sceptics early in the Coronavirus pandemic – for example when Young predicted that there would be no second wave of the virus.

Rees-Mogg’s comments seem to imply that he – and by extension the Government  – believe that commentators such as Young and Hartley-Brewer have been disseminating half-truths about the COVID-19 pandemic.

Stop Press 2: M.L.R. Smith and Niall McCrae in CIEO argue that the “growing prohibition on criticising the Government’s response to the COVID-19 pandemic reveals a state as intent on controlling our minds as our bodies”.

Stop Press 3: A lockdown debate took place at the Cambridge Union yesterday. The motion was: “This House believes lockdown was a mistake.” Speaking in favour were Sir Graham Brady MP, Richard Tice and Toby Young, while speaking against were Layla Moran MP, Laura Spinner and Phil Whitaker. The ayes won by 362 votes to 309, a convincing victory. We will post a video of the debate here on Saturday when it goes up on YouTube.

Round-up

  • “Sunetra Gupta: ‘There seems to be a fundamental misunderstanding of how we live with germs’” – Alec March in Spear’s interviews the eminent sceptical Oxford Professor of Epidemiology
  • “Why the ‘100,000 deaths’ figure is misleading the public” – Noah Carl in the Critic points out it only amounts to the same mortality levels as 2008 and earlier
  • “The Covid death toll in perspective” – Mark Ellse on Conservative Woman tries to bring a bit of proportion to our fixation with Covid deaths
  • “Shouldn’t we ‘expose’ the government rather than its critics?” – Emily Hill in spiked wonders how Matt Hancock’s statements in the past 12 months would stand up if he was subjected to the same offence archaeology as the lockdown sceptics. It’s not pretty
  • “Lockdown Policies: Doing More Harm Than Good?” – Lockdown Sceptics reader and Associate Professor of Psychology at the University of Greenwich Dr Oliver Robinson is due to give an online talk on Saturday February 13th 4-6 PM. Find out more here
  • “Kristen’s story of how Covid restrictions destroyed her business” – Listen to the latest CoronaStories podcast: “The place where you can listen to people’s honest take on Covid, lockdown and other related matters”
  • “Coronavirus, in ten Lombard municipalities: 50 thousand people forced to stay at home” – Flashback to the fateful moment, on February 21st 2020, when a Western country decided to imitate Communist China (already praised by the WHO for its response) and quarantine a whole population to try to control a coronavirus outbreak. 17 days later the whole of Italy was locked down, 32 days later most of the world
  • “Covid Superstars #2 – Dr Gabriel Scally” – Bruce Wallace on Left Lockdown Sceptics puts the Zero Covid proponent and Independent SAGE member under the spotlight
  • “The Way Out?” – The latest episode of the Real Normal Podcast is here, where the gang discuss what, now we have vaccines, we should be doing to open up the country and when
  • “Largest ever daily fall in Covid hospital patients” – Some good news for a change in the Health Service Journal as the number of Covid positive patients in English hospitals fell by 1,491 on Wednesday. The same day Chris Whitty was warning deaths are likely to come down only “slowly”. We may be reminding him of that before long
  • “Going abroad for no good reason will be illegal, Priti Patel warns” – The borders get ever tighter, reports the Times, with no hint given of when these new measures might end
  • “What is the Great Reset?” – The World Economic Forum has released a five minute video explaining the idea of treating the pandemic as an “opportunity” to “reshape the world in ways we couldn’t before” to give “nature” a “bailout”. Yes, really
  • “Hasidim had similar Covid outcomes despite opening” – Frieda Vizel finds that her Hasidic community in Brooklyn fared no worse than wider NYC despite disregarding most of the restrictions for religious reasons
  • “Angela Rayner urged to retract teachers are ‘more at risk of catching Covid’ claim” – Looks like a case for Neil O’Brien and his laser-like attention to Covid misinformation
  • “Increase in suicide related calls at half of England’s ambulance services over lockdown” – London Ambulance Service alone saw calls relating to suicide or attempted suicide jump 33% from 11,703 in March-November 2019 to 15,541 in the same period in 2020. Strangely, however, the pattern was not consistent across the country, and while most regions saw an increase, in two regions there was a decrease
  • “Two men fined £10,000 each for organising snowball fight” – ‘Allo, what’s going on here then? Not fun I hope
  • Lewis Goodall tweets: “Newsnight has been given exclusive access to one of the biggest studies yet undertaken to measure how the pandemic has affected children’s education… Findings are worrying”

Theme Tunes Suggested by Readers

Two today: “Don’t Believe A Word” by Thin Lizzy and “Fiddling the Figures” by DevonMiles.

Love in the Time of Covid

Keri Russell and Matthew Rhys in The Americans

We have created some Lockdown Sceptics Forums, including a dating forum called “Love in a Covid Climate” that has attracted a bit of attention. We have a team of moderators in place to remove spam and deal with the trolls, but sometimes it takes a little while so please bear with us. You have to register to use the Forums as well as post comments below the line, but that should just be a one-time thing. Any problems, email the Lockdown Sceptics webmaster Ian Rons here.

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Woke Gobbledegook

We’ve decided to create a permanent slot down here for woke gobbledegook. Today, it’s the list of 44 schools that are to be renamed by the San Francisco Unified School District because they are named after supposedly “controversial” public figures, including former Presidents George Washington and Abraham Lincoln, current Senator Dianne Feinstein and Robert Louis Stevenson, the author of Treasure Island. What was RLS’s sin? Stereotyping pirates?

Comprehensive HIGH schools
1 Balboa High School
2 Abraham Lincoln High School
3 Mission High School
4 George Washington High School

Alternative HIGH schools
5 Lowell High School

Middle schools
6 James Denman Middle School
7 Everett Middle School
8 Herbert Hoover Middle School
9 James Lick Middle School
10 Presidio Middle School
11 Roosevelt Middle School

K-8 schools
12 Lawton Alternative K-8
13 Claire Lilienthal: Madison Campus (Grades K-2) 3950 Sacramento Street
13 Claire Lilienthal: Winfield Scott Campus (Grades 3-8) 3630 Divisadero Street
14 Paul Revere K-8

K-5 Elementary schools
15 Alamo Elementary
16 Alvarado Elementary
17 Bryant Elementary
18 Clarendon Elementary Second Community
18 JBBP (Japanese Bilingual Bicultural Program) at Clarendon
19 El Dorado Elementary
20 Dianne Feinstein Elementary
21 Garfield Elementary
22 Grattan Elementary
23 Jefferson Elementary
24 Francis Scott Key Elementary
25 Frank McCoppin Elementary
26 McKinley Elementary
27 Marshall Elementary
28 Monroe Elementary
29 John Muir Elementary
30 Jose Ortega Elementary
31 Sanchez Elementary
32 Junipero Serra Elementary
33 Sheridan Elementary
34 Sherman Elementary
35 Commodore Sloat Elementary
36 Robert Louis Stevenson Elementary
37 Sutro Elementary
38 Ulloa Elementary
39 Daniel Webster Elementary

EES (Early Education Schools)
40 Jefferson Early Education School
41 Junipero Serra Early Education School
42 Noriega EES
43 Presidio EES
44 Stockton EES

At times like these one often reaches for George Orwell.

Do you realise that the past, starting from yesterday, has been actually abolished? If it survives anywhere, it’s in a few solid objects with no words attached to them, like that lump of glass there. Already we know almost literally nothing about the Revolution and the years before the Revolution. Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book has been rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street and building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And that process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right. I know, of course, that the past is falsified, but it would never be possible for me to prove it, even when I did the falsification myself. After the thing is done, no evidence ever remains. The only evidence is inside my own mind, and I don’t know with any certainty that any other human being shares my memories.

George Orwell, “1984”

“Mask Exempt” Lanyards

We’ve created a one-stop shop down here for people who want to obtain a “Mask Exempt” lanyard/card – because wearing a mask causes them “severe distress”, for instance. You can print out and laminate a fairly standard one for free here and the Government has instructions on how to download an official “Mask Exempt” notice to put on your phone here. And if you feel obliged to wear a mask but want to signal your disapproval of having to do so, you can get a “sexy world” mask with the Swedish flag on it here.

Don’t forget to sign the petition on the UK Government’s petitions website calling for an end to mandatory face masks in shops here.

A reader has started a website that contains some useful guidance about how you can claim legal exemption. Another reader has created an Android app which displays “I am exempt from wearing a face mask” on your phone. Only 99p.

If you’re a shop owner and you want to let your customers know you will not be insisting on face masks or asking them what their reasons for exemption are, you can download a friendly sign to stick in your window here.

And here’s an excellent piece about the ineffectiveness of masks by a Roger W. Koops, who has a doctorate in organic chemistry. See also the Swiss Doctor’s thorough review of the scientific evidence here and Prof Carl Heneghan and Dr Tom Jefferson’s Spectator article about the Danish mask study here.

Stop Press: A senior scientist has told Lockdown Sceptics he was involved recently in a discussion about vaccines where the view was expressed that once you’ve been vaccinated it may be better not to wear a mask. The rationale being that circulating vaccine-induced antibody fades over time and that repeated exposure to the virus keeps immunity topped up. (The same, logically, applies to anyone who has had a natural infection.) He added:

Needless to say, adopting this view – which would support the early abandonment of masks as vaccine is rolled out – requires acceptance of the assertion (which many of us doubt) that masks have any protective merit in the first place. It might, however, be a better argument against the wretched things than asserting they are useless – a line that has failed to gain traction.  

The Great Barrington Declaration

Professor Martin Kulldorff, Professor Sunetra Gupta and Professor Jay Bhattacharya

The Great Barrington Declaration, a petition started by Professor Martin Kulldorff, Professor Sunetra Gupta and Professor Jay Bhattacharya calling for a strategy of “Focused Protection” (protect the elderly and the vulnerable and let everyone else get on with life), was launched in October and the lockdown zealots have been doing their best to discredit it ever since. If you googled it a week after launch, the top hits were three smear pieces from the Guardian, including: “Herd immunity letter signed by fake experts including ‘Dr Johnny Bananas’.” (Freddie Sayers at UnHerd warned us about this the day before it appeared.) On the bright side, Google UK has stopped shadow banning it, so the actual Declaration now tops the search results – and Toby’s Spectator piece about the attempt to suppress it is among the top hits – although discussion of it has been censored by Reddit. The reason the zealots hate it, of course, is that it gives the lie to their claim that “the science” only supports their strategy. These three scientists are every bit as eminent – more eminent – than the pro-lockdown fanatics so expect no let up in the attacks. (Wikipedia has also done a smear job.)

You can find it here. Please sign it. Now over three quarters of a million signatures.

Update: The authors of the GBD have expanded the FAQs to deal with some of the arguments and smears that have been made against their proposal. Worth reading in full.

Update 2: Many of the signatories of the Great Barrington Declaration are involved with new UK anti-lockdown campaign Recovery. Find out more and join here.

Update 3: You can watch Sunetra Gupta set out the case for “Focused Protection” here and Jay Bhattacharya make it here.

Update 4: The three GBD authors plus Prof Carl Heneghan of CEBM have launched a new website collateralglobal.org, “a global repository for research into the collateral effects of the COVID-19 lockdown measures”. Follow Collateral Global on Twitter here. Sign up to the newsletter here.

Judicial Reviews Against the Government

There are now so many legal cases being brought against the Government and its ministers we thought we’d include them all in one place down here.

The Simon Dolan case has now reached the end of the road. The current lead case is the Robin Tilbrook case which challenges whether the Lockdown Regulations are constitutional. You can read about that and contribute here.

Then there’s John’s Campaign which is focused specifically on care homes. Find out more about that here.

There’s the GoodLawProject and Runnymede Trust’s Judicial Review of the Government’s award of lucrative PPE contracts to various private companies. You can find out more about that here and contribute to the crowdfunder here. Latest news is the Government is trying to make the action unaffordable by claiming there is no public interest and spending a million pounds on the thing, which those bringing the review are at risk of having to pay.

There’s the class action lawsuit being brought by Dr Reiner Fuellmich and his team in various countries against “the manufacturers and sellers of the defective product, PCR tests”. Dr Fuellmich explains the lawsuit in this video. Dr Fuellmich has also served cease and desist papers on Professor Christian Drosten, co-author of the Corman-Drosten paper which underpins the SARS-CoV-2 PCR test protocol. That paper was submitted on January 21st and accepted following peer review on January 22nd. The paper has been critically reviewed here by Pieter Borger and colleagues, who have also submitted a retraction request.

And last but not least there was the Free Speech Union‘s challenge to Ofcom over its ‘coronavirus guidance’. A High Court judge refused permission for the FSU’s judicial review on December 9th and the FSU has decided not to appeal the decision because Ofcom has conceded most of the points it was making. Check here for details.

Samaritans

If you are struggling to cope, please call Samaritans for free on 116 123 (UK and ROI), email jo@samaritans.org or visit the Samaritans website to find details of your nearest branch. Samaritans is available round the clock, every single day of the year, providing a safe place for anyone struggling to cope, whoever they are, however they feel, whatever life has done to them.

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Dorian_Hawkmoon
Dorian_Hawkmoon
5 years ago

Wooh. Unaccustomed as I am…

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Lockdown Sceptic
Lockdown Sceptic
5 years ago
Reply to  Dorian_Hawkmoon

Biden’s Bird Slaughter: Green New Deal’s Wind Turbines Will Kill 1,000,000 Birds Annually
https://stopthesethings.com/2021/01/28/bidens-bird-slaughter-green-new-deals-wind-turbines-will-kill-1000000-birds-annually/

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Elisabeth
Elisabeth
5 years ago
Reply to  Lockdown Sceptic

Not just that but they don’t recycle and thus clutter up the landfills. Fantastic green deal all right🙄

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iane
iane
5 years ago
Reply to  Elisabeth

Sure makes me turn green!

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Rowan
Rowan
5 years ago
Reply to  Elisabeth

Wind Turbines aren’t remotely green. They are for show and to make some very rich people even richer.

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Nottheonly1
Nottheonly1
5 years ago
Reply to  Rowan

That depends entirely on the design. The way they are built is in accordance to capitalist principles – not to principles of sustainable energy generation. Whenever the ROI is the main determinating factor, things get ugly – but the rich are happy.

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bebophaircut
bebophaircut
5 years ago
Reply to  Rowan

Surround the White House with them. Dead birds littered all over the Rose Garden and the front lawn. Alfred Hitchcock revisited. With a twist.

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Nottheonly1
Nottheonly1
5 years ago
Reply to  bebophaircut

There are no birds around the white house. Way too much glyphosate sprayed around it…

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Banjones
Banjones
5 years ago
Reply to  Elisabeth

And their carbon footprint is huge – manufacture with steel, other metals, transport, maintenance, batteries, etc etc. Are these people barking mad, or just plain ignorant? Or just out to make money…. oh, surely not!

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shorthand
shorthand
5 years ago
Reply to  Banjones

And the concrete base the size of a small house….. They’re noisy if you live near them, which I do, especially when there’s actually very little wind on a nice evening. The effect is I think called wind shear, whereby as I understand it, heat rises as the ground cools during the evening, the turbine, the higher it is, catches the wind movement due to stratification and obviously rotates. Lower to the ground, the wind is calmer, you hear no wind noise to mask the turbine blades cut through the air. Drives me mad.

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awildgoose
awildgoose
5 years ago
Reply to  shorthand

The sheer size and weight of most turbines creates unnatural pressure and heating in the ground beneath, leading to unwanted effects on the soil temperature, chemical balance, and microbe load.

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bebophaircut
bebophaircut
5 years ago
Reply to  Banjones

Plain ignorant, uninformed dreamers. It sounds so wonderful, but it isn’t practical. Wonderful trumps practical and reality. Maybe it was the relentless Green propaganda that they were taught in school from an early age? Like Greta T.

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Bella Donna
Bella Donna
5 years ago
Reply to  Elisabeth

https://stopthesethings.com/2014/08/16/how-much-co2-gets-emitted-to-build-a-wind-turbine/

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Elisabeth
Elisabeth
5 years ago
Reply to  Bella Donna

That was an interesting read. Thank you for sharing

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bebophaircut
bebophaircut
5 years ago
Reply to  Elisabeth

A woman on Real America’s Voice at 3 P.M. just said that Biden’s Green Deal could kill up to 10 million jobs. What the heck! That’s sabotage. Treasonous.

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Steve Hayes
Steve Hayes
5 years ago
Reply to  Lockdown Sceptic

Wind turbines are made from steel, a lot of steel, and it takes more steel to transport to the location and more steel for erection. And all that steel can only be made by burning coal: which the green energy people tell us is the worst of all fossil fuels and all of it should be left unused in the ground.

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Llamasaurus Rex
Llamasaurus Rex
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve Hayes

Green energy is not green. Green energy = more expensive energy. David Rockefeller understands this profoundly. That’s why his energy dynasty is driving the phenomenon – successfully. Another way to wealth transfer to elites.

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Cristi.Neagu
Cristi.Neagu
5 years ago
Reply to  Llamasaurus Rex

Anyone who knows anything about power distribution networks knows that renewables cannot sustain electricity demand by themselves. They do not have the inertia required to cope with demand fluctuations, and they do not have the reliability needed. Wind is not a constant, and when you need energy the most, there’s no sun (winter). There aren’t a lot of places left to build hydro dams. And you only get thermal energy if you’re lucky enough. Renewable energy will always rely on classic power plants. This means that if we go down the renewable path, we will never be rid of gas plants and oil plants, maybe even coal ones. The only way out of this into cheap, clean power is nuclear. That’s why it is the most demonized means of power generation today. I think it’s easier to build a gas power plant than a nuclear one. France and Germany have settled this argument quite a few years ago, but no one is talking about it. Germany forced France to invest in renewables since France relies a lot on nuclear power. As a result, not only did people end up paying more for energy after introducing renewables, but France’s CO2 emissions… Read more »

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Old Bill
Old Bill
5 years ago
Reply to  Cristi.Neagu

Nuclear or tidal – both preferably.

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Cristi.Neagu
Cristi.Neagu
5 years ago
Reply to  Old Bill

Tidal is pretty hard to implement. Also, you kinda need to be next to a coast. And who even knows what the effect is going to be on the environment.

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Rowan
Rowan
5 years ago
Reply to  Cristi.Neagu

Fukushima is an an extinction level event all by itself.

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Cristi.Neagu
Cristi.Neagu
5 years ago
Reply to  Rowan

What are you talking about? Fukushima affected the local area, which is being repopulated, btw. There was no major impact anywhere else, let alone “extinction level”.

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Dorian_Hawkmoon
Dorian_Hawkmoon
5 years ago
Reply to  Cristi.Neagu

Agree C.N It was merely a crap location and locating the control plant in a floodable hole ffs. Totes agree with ” if they’re against nuclear, they’re either useful idiots or they’re lying to you”.

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Nottheonly1
Nottheonly1
5 years ago
Reply to  Dorian_Hawkmoon

This oneupmanship about nuclear hot water boilers is pathetic. People that are for nuclear steam power are probably both idiots or lying – or even more plausible paid stooges.
You omit the fact that the nuclear weapons stockpile is the main reason for the creation of npp’s. This hypocrisy of blaming Iran for its peaceful nuclear program comes from people who know that they themselves don’t use it for peaceful purposes. The electricity generated is a byproduct. It is the most costly way of generating electricity – if it does not serve another need. Subsidized to the hilt with taxpayer money.
Again, pathetic to promote this way of boiling water – especially in the face of the obvious goal by the hyper rich to remove the majority of people from the planet.
What do you need all this electricity for without the masses of people burning it for consumer electronics?

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Nottheonly1
Nottheonly1
5 years ago
Reply to  Cristi.Neagu

There will be more Fukushimas soon – based on the countless aging reactors of the same model. Talking about nuclear being preferrable to alternative energy generation is General Electric propaganda. The costs of building, maintaining, dismantling and disposal of radioactive waste is exponentially higher than with any other generation method. Even coal fired plants are not constructed to be environmentally feasible. All these schemes serve the hyper rich owner class.

The only way out of this dependency is decentralized energy generation. Not centralized generation that leaves everybody in their grid depending on their operation. People that have devised alternative generation methods are murdered by the cartels. Because energy is everywhere – everything is energy.

I consider anybody that does not know about the myriad alternatives to generate electricity either a useful idiot, or a liar.

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Cristi.Neagu
Cristi.Neagu
5 years ago
Reply to  Nottheonly1

Fukushima is a relatively old reactor design. There are newer and much safer designs.

Talking about renewables is Shell propaganda.

There is no need for radioactive waste disposal. Nuclear waste can just be used as fuel in other reactor types, such as CANDU.

Decentralized energy generation leads to technological stagnation.

Sounds to me like you need to do your homework on nuclear power. Especially now with molten salt reactors on the horizon.

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Nottheonly1
Nottheonly1
5 years ago
Reply to  Cristi.Neagu

The only thing on the horizon now is the great reset.
The ‘old type’ reactors are the majority of all reactors. Many of them are now between 40 – 50 years old. In spite of having been refitted and modernized in regards to control and safety mechanisms – concrete does age, especially when exposed to radiation.

Based on ‘be here – now’, promises about safe nuclear power are moot. Today, they are all a major threat and liability.

Very telling that you don’t mention local geothermal generation for clusters of houses/villages. Too sustainable and nontoxic?

Clean up Chernobyl, Fukushima and Hanford – to name only the worst threats – before promoting a continuation of the path that led to this status.

If a dumb person like me can come up with a design to generate electricity locally exclusively via the difference in temperature between day and night, you should be able, too. But you appear to prefer blind fellowship of the technocracy fairy tale.

I ‘work’/create for the poor – not for the hyper rich.

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BJJ
BJJ
5 years ago
Reply to  Nottheonly1

Geothermal energy is not sustainable, it drains the basin of supply, within a certain amount of time.

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Nottheonly1
Nottheonly1
5 years ago
Reply to  BJJ

Well, I should have added that I am not referring to the kind that uses toxic chemicals in a fracking like operation – like the one I was living close by in lower Puna district on Hawai’i island. I am referring to small scale geothermal plants for individual houses/clusters of houses. The sustaibability factor derives from the use of renewable materials in the process.
To expect, or demand that something is completely sustainable and renewable is dishonest. The micro geothermal powerplants in Germany show the right direction. Houses that do not need exterior energy are a step forward for sure.
But with the grate reset, things will do into a different direction – if nothing is done about it.

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sam s.j.
sam s.j.
5 years ago
Reply to  Nottheonly1

we need people who can think up brilliant ideas like this night and day idea. going along with nature rather than destroying it and trying to
control nature ,instead of people we cant trust like the evil gates and Facebook etc who are making such a mess of our world . masks lockdowns vaccines control control control

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sam s.j.
sam s.j.
5 years ago
Reply to  Nottheonly1

hear hear
or and new energy i read a tiny bit about tesla

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Nottheonly1
Nottheonly1
5 years ago
Reply to  sam s.j.

Tesla is nothing but a racket on the expense of Earth.

But do Yourself a favor and make a little experiment. Very simple (to reveal the principle):

Place a large plastic bottle outside at noon and unscrew the lid. After 15 minutes – close the lid. Observe what happens with the bottle – or look at it after sunset. It works both ways. Open it at night – look at it at noon. Note what happened to the bottle in both instances. This is very simplified – but You will immediately get the idea of a ‘divergence power plant’.

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sam s.j.
sam s.j.
5 years ago
Reply to  Nottheonly1

i was htinkig of the scientist tesla sorry is not my forte science!

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Nottheonly1
Nottheonly1
5 years ago
Reply to  sam s.j.

The genius! I assumed You were factoring in the above comment about the coal powered charge of a Tesla.
But it goes to show how Musk soiled the name of the genius.
The little experiment will work nonetheless. 🙂

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sam s.j.
sam s.j.
5 years ago
Reply to  Nottheonly1

yes ! i boguht a book about him but havent read yet and my nephews studying physics knwo about him . i will try the experimnet if its not too advanced for me!

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Nottheonly1
Nottheonly1
5 years ago
Reply to  sam s.j.

The truth is, that there are quite a large number of Tesla people around. They just don’t know it – because the ‘education’ system was transformed into a tight programming and conditioning venture to create the servants the hyper rich needed. I also recommend You look into Viktor Schauberger – an Austrian observer of Nature of the late 19th century. He wrote the standard volume of alternative energy titled “Die Natur verstehen – Die Natur kopieren” (“Comprehend Nature – Copy Nature”. It is a most fascinating work about the art of observing Nature and to understand how it solves its ‘problems’.

https://archive.org/details/ViktorSchauberger-ComprehendAndCopyNature

Enjoy!

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sam s.j.
sam s.j.
5 years ago
Reply to  Nottheonly1

i heard about him from prince charles book.was listening to the audio cd! the pools of water swirling energy. brilliant !. must be becuase is not profitable i dont trust anyone anymore in power not that did before.

how could prince charles be hoodwinked now !’ great reset ‘ argh

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sam s.j.
sam s.j.
5 years ago
Reply to  Nottheonly1

new book to read thank you!

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DJ Dod
DJ Dod
5 years ago
Reply to  Cristi.Neagu

My understanding is that there is still some potential for further hydro generation in Scotland (400-1000MW), but viability depends on a variety of factors. However, given that modern life is ever more dependent on electricity, it’s hard to see how base demand can be met without nuclear.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/280736099_Scotlands_hydropower_Current_capacity_future_potential_and_the_possible_impacts_of_climate_change

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Nottheonly1
Nottheonly1
5 years ago
Reply to  DJ Dod

Do You know about this?

Walchensee Kraftwerk/Walchensee Hydropower Plant

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DJ Dod
DJ Dod
5 years ago
Reply to  Nottheonly1

Been there! Not inside the power station, but did some hill walks round there once.

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Nottheonly1
Nottheonly1
5 years ago
Reply to  DJ Dod

So, did You do the Herzogstand? That’s the house mountain. King Ludwig loved it there. You can see upper Bavaria like on a platter. Walchensee is the upper natural reservoir. Kochelsee the lower reservoir. This principle works everywhere on the planet. Free energy, speaking in economic terms. When there is a difference in the usage, there is a difference in the price for light/electricity. Buy cheap – sell expensive. Works like a charm with solar panels. Or concentrated solar arrays that energize a condensation free steam turbine.

“Comprehend Nature – Copy Nature.”

-Viktor Schauberger –

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Llamasaurus Rex
Llamasaurus Rex
5 years ago
Reply to  Cristi.Neagu

Agreed

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bebophaircut
bebophaircut
5 years ago
Reply to  Cristi.Neagu

John Kerry disagrees with you. AOC does. Greenies do too.To think that I was upset in 2004 when Kerry didn’t beat Dubya. Oh, well, live and learn.

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Elisabeth
Elisabeth
5 years ago
Reply to  Cristi.Neagu

Pretty much. The only thing worthwhile is geothermal energy. It still relies on electricity to run the pumps but it takes a lot less to keep the house comfortable. You have to drill deep into the earth or have a large field so not super feasible for everyone. And the upfront cost is pretty steep.

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Old Bill
Old Bill
5 years ago
Reply to  Llamasaurus Rex

IMO, green energy = energy rationing (possibly by price).

Just look at Lebanon – not the same green self-immolation as planned here, but a very good illustration of what will happen.(sorry it is a bbc link):

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-50760043

If you are too squeamish to visit a BBC website, it basically says rolling power cuts up to 17 hours a day and the rich paying crooks to steal electricity with ‘hook ups’ for them during their power outage, and this has been going on for more than 10 years.

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Banjones
Banjones
5 years ago
Reply to  Llamasaurus Rex

”Elites”???

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Llamasaurus Rex
Llamasaurus Rex
5 years ago
Reply to  Banjones

“Elites” in inverted commas. Shorthand for ultra rich – who are getting richer…my comment related to the wealth transfer to the pinnacle of the wealth pyramid.

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Banjones
Banjones
5 years ago
Reply to  Llamasaurus Rex

Yes, I understand really. I was just being facetious! Because anything less ”elite” than that self-serving and arrogant bunch you couldn’t imagine! We’ll have to find another word…

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Dorian_Hawkmoon
Dorian_Hawkmoon
5 years ago
Reply to  Llamasaurus Rex

Energy companies don’t get rich through abundant energy like nuclear. They make money through energy scarcity. That’s partly why nuclear is dissed. California is the classic example. Enron deliberately caused scarcity. Biden is binning Keystone for same reasons. No money in it. Nuclear despite huge advantages is routinely blocked for spurious reasons.

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mj
mj
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve Hayes

and the bases use vast amounts of concrete which is a huge producer of “greenhouse gasses” (not that greenhouse gasses are actual an issue, but the greens are obsessed by cutting them so it is hypocritical of them)

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Banjones
Banjones
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve Hayes

Sorry, didn’t read yours before I posted mind – yours is much better.

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Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  Steve Hayes

except in Wuhan

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
5 years ago
Reply to  Lockdown Sceptic

And they’re useless when either there’s no wind or it’s too windy.

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James Leary #KBF
James Leary #KBF
5 years ago
Reply to  Lockdown Sceptic

My current view as I read.

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Nottheonly1
Nottheonly1
5 years ago
Reply to  James Leary #KBF

Uruguay

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J4mes
J4mes
5 years ago
Reply to  James Leary #KBF

I guess you’re on the Cumbrian coast? It’s getting that bad where I am in the North East – except they’re inland here! No one gets a say whether these abominations are erected or not. Democracy, right?

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Woden
Woden
5 years ago
Reply to  Lockdown Sceptic

Re bird strikes: wind farms do not kill the amounts mentioned, which is a gross over estimation, when the domestic cat kills far more annually. Research also shows that painting one blade black will reduce bird strike by 70%. Also, production and maintenance of these wind farms produce many jobs that otherwise would have been lost, particularly in areas where ship building and the marine economy has disappeared. The bases of marine turbines are producing artificial reefs that are acting as marine ecosystems and sanctuaries that are allowing recovery from the devastation of the sea bed by net dragging in commercial fishing. Disruption does occur when these turbines are built but the ecology quickly recovers. Other problems are disruptions to echo location, but more research is needed into this as well as all other areas of wind power. Marine biologist Hall Spencer says “The footprint is minimal compared to the vastness of the seas especially when compared to the effects of industrialised fishing and a warming of the oceans”. How do you maintain energy supplies into the future? Nuclear has many concerning factors: planning, cost, time to bring on stream, waste etc. Tidal energy the critics maintain, is as disruptive… Read more »

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Lockdown Sceptic
Lockdown Sceptic
5 years ago
Reply to  Dorian_Hawkmoon

The Shocking Truth About Health Passports

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xz2IGjIXKfQ

Vernon Coleman

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Lockdown Sceptic
Lockdown Sceptic
5 years ago
Reply to  Dorian_Hawkmoon

More people have died in Britain in 2020 than in any year since 1918 – not true

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_oaziwvkUg

History Debunked

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Lockdown Sceptic
Lockdown Sceptic
5 years ago
Reply to  Lockdown Sceptic

The 2020s: 

Tears For Fears – Mad World
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1ZvPSpLxCg

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Lockdown Sceptic
Lockdown Sceptic
5 years ago
Reply to  Lockdown Sceptic

Boris’s Ode to the Electorate: ” A simple prop to occupy my time”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7oQEPfe-O8
R.E.M. – The One I Love

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Dorian_Hawkmoon
Dorian_Hawkmoon
5 years ago
Reply to  Dorian_Hawkmoon

IMHO any Boris “phased exit strategy” will be a worthless piece of snailshit, FWIW.

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Annie
Annie
5 years ago
Reply to  Dorian_Hawkmoon

Like engenders like.

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Llamasaurus Rex
Llamasaurus Rex
5 years ago
Reply to  Annie

For a second there Annie, i mean, like, I thought you’d gone all Generation Z on us, like.

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AidanR
AidanR
5 years ago
Reply to  Llamasaurus Rex

Do not like

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iane
iane
5 years ago
Reply to  Dorian_Hawkmoon

Wot, no pre-prepared speech?!

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Lockdown Sceptic
Lockdown Sceptic
5 years ago

The Shocking Truth About Health Passports

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xz2IGjIXKfQ

Vernon Coleman

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Lockdown Sceptic
Lockdown Sceptic
5 years ago
Reply to  Lockdown Sceptic

Leftie Lockdown Loving Journalist’s attitude to Covid 19

It’s The End Of The World As We Know It (And I Feel Fine)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0GFRcFm-aY

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Lockdown Sceptic
Lockdown Sceptic
5 years ago

Will this be phased in?

The Great Reopen UK businesses are asked to open 30th January– I am not saying anyone should break the law.

Aren’t all businesses essential – contact them

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCGI4kurfbY
https://thewhiterose.uk/the-great-reopening-30-january-2021/

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Lockdown Sceptic
Lockdown Sceptic
5 years ago
Reply to  Lockdown Sceptic

Dictator Newsom Ends California Lockdown!?! What You Need To Know
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZzufBXVa-0&t=16s

AwakenWithJP

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Lockdown Sceptic
Lockdown Sceptic
5 years ago
Reply to  Lockdown Sceptic

This should be the Governmnent’s slogan

(Don’t Fear) The Reaper

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dy4HA3vUv2c
BLUE OYSTER CULT

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Crimson Avenger
Crimson Avenger
5 years ago
Reply to  Lockdown Sceptic

Surely the premises can be open for other than business without inviting any sort of gathering?

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Cecil B
Cecil B
5 years ago

These lunatics are out of control

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Annie
Annie
5 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

Best thing to do is quarantine them for life. Does Spandau prison still exist?
There’s no vaccine against insanity.Or stupidity.

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Steve Hayes
Steve Hayes
5 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Isn’t the acquisition of skill in the use of reason and evidence the (metaphorical) vaccine against insanity and stupidity?

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Annie
Annie
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve Hayes

Maybe, but you have to start young, and, as with the acquisition of human language, there is an age threshold after which you become incapable of acquiring such skills.Our Fascists are long past that age. So are the zombies.

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Steve Hayes
Steve Hayes
5 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Our fascists, as you so endearingly dub them, remind me of nothing so much as Roderick Spode, the leader of the Black Shorts (P G Wodehouse).

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Annie
Annie
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve Hayes

Yes indeed. But they were a small minority in those days, and the majority had the sense to ignore or laugh at them.

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WeAllFallDown
WeAllFallDown
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve Hayes

I was thinking the exact same thing.

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
5 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Maybe we can rent the Lyubanka from the Russians?

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Nick Rose
Nick Rose
5 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Why must the Germans have to put up with them? I thought we were all friends now, lol. Rockall might be more suitable. No warders required.

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Nigel Sherratt
Nigel Sherratt
5 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Demolished and replaced by a NAAFI. Pity, would have been a a good spot for them to practice their interpretative dances.

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SallyM
SallyM
5 years ago

The Pfizer vaccine is not 99.96% effective! There is no control group for that data. That is ridiculous.

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Annie
Annie
5 years ago
Reply to  SallyM

I keep asking, ‘What is the criterion for ‘effectiveness’?If the magic jab doesn’t stop you getting the bug, doesn’t stop you passing it on, doesn’t stop you getting ill with the bug although it might make you feel less bad while you’re having it, what the bloody hell makes it effective?

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ElizaP
ElizaP
5 years ago
Reply to  Annie

As a very visible sign of compliance…

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ituex
ituex
5 years ago
Reply to  Annie

My thoughts exactly. Surely the ‘point’ of a vaccine is that it prevents the recipient contracting the infection in question. For which, so far, they seem to have 0% effectiveness. If it doesn’t stop you getting it it’s not going to stop onward transmission if asymptomatic spread exists. There are too many ifs.

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Crimson Avenger
Crimson Avenger
5 years ago
Reply to  Annie

$18 a shot.

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Prof Feargoeson
Prof Feargoeson
5 years ago
Reply to  Annie

It is 99.96% effective at getting you a place on a Saga cruise ship.

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rose
rose
5 years ago
Reply to  Annie

How could they know how bad anyone would have had It anyway and that their symptoms were less severe!! It’s a bad joke

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Hugh_Manity
Hugh_Manity
5 years ago
Reply to  SallyM

Isn’t that figure virtually the same as the recovery rate? It has been suggested that these “vaccines” are not vaccines in the accepted medical sense, leaving aside any side effects and whether they work or not. So the manufactures and politicians can claim they are successful.

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Scotty87
Scotty87
5 years ago
Reply to  SallyM

It took me two minutes to find this quote from the lead immunologist in Israel, “while these are impressive results, it’s important to say that there is no direct control group or data about the demographics and geographical data of the vaccinated people.”

https://www.timesofisrael.com/week-after-2nd-pfizer-vaccine-shot-only-20-of-128000-israelis-get-covid/

It seems LS cannot even bother to do the research these days, it merely regurgitates the narrative.

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Ovis
Ovis
5 years ago
Reply to  Scotty87

It’s curious that vaccine-as-saviour is being latched onto now, long after the state itself abandoned the vaccine cult (while still demanding total compliance because). There is no possibility that the regime can be held to its earlier position that the vaccine would end restrictions. The regime cannot be held to anything, let alone a position it has already explicitly rejected.

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Jinks
Jinks
5 years ago
Reply to  Scotty87

Thank you. It’s people like you, who make this comment section such a valuable and sane resource for everyone btl.

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Crystal Decanter
Crystal Decanter
5 years ago
Reply to  SallyM

Hanging oneself is also 100% “effective” against Coronaviruses

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Crimson Avenger
Crimson Avenger
5 years ago
Reply to  SallyM

It’s also a figure out of context. If you have no more than a 0.03% risk of contracting the disease and the vaccine reduced that risk by 99%… the difference is about 0.01%. And if you don’t go into a hospital the risk is 66% lower.

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Steve Hayes
Steve Hayes
5 years ago

It is good to see the parliament of the Council of Europe being clear that mandatory vaccination would be wrong and that discrimination against people who have not been vaccinated would be wrong. This sends a clear signal to states that any such discriminatory practices would open to challenge in the European Court of Human Rights and that the court would be likely to rule such discrimination illegal.

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Hugh_Manity
Hugh_Manity
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve Hayes

I wonder how Saga are going to react to this?

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Steve Hayes
Steve Hayes
5 years ago
Reply to  Hugh_Manity

I suspect their lawyers will be advising a change of policy, as the Human Rights Act 1988 would leave them seriously exposed.

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Annie
Annie
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve Hayes

Hasn’t that Act been de facto suspended, along with all other legislation conferring ‘rights’ on ordinary people?

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Steve Hayes
Steve Hayes
5 years ago
Reply to  Annie

No.

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Annie
Annie
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve Hayes

Has anybody tried to invoke it against Coronabollox?

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Steve Hayes
Steve Hayes
5 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Not that I know of. However, it was cited in the Dolan judicial review. One aspect was the claim that by closing schools the government had denied children their right to education. The government’s lawyer countered this by asserting that the government had not closed schools. This response shows that the Human Rights Act 1998 has not been suspended and that the government knows it is acting contrary to the act and thus the convention. The current problem is not the law (the Coronavirus Act 2020 is clearly unlawful), it is the judges, who will not allow cases to proceed.

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Skippy
Skippy
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve Hayes

I have been summonsed to jury duty in a few weeks time, I’m curious as to whether we should be questioning the beak about which law is supreme in any matter, or whether we can hang em and flog em regardless

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Crystal Decanter
Crystal Decanter
5 years ago
Reply to  Skippy

advise the court non-white – automatically guilty
gets me out of Jury duty every time

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Crimson Avenger
Crimson Avenger
5 years ago
Reply to  Skippy

Should be interesting. It’s strange how they have never worried about people infecting each other in court before and probably shouldn’t now.

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PatrickF
PatrickF
5 years ago
Reply to  Skippy

You’ll be masked up. After all, in a court of law you are guilty, until proved innocent.

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Jo
Jo
5 years ago
Reply to  Skippy

You’ll have to sit surrounding by perspex to protect you from the other jurors!

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FerdIII
FerdIII
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve Hayes

Libtard judges. Not independent. Just libtard activists.

Actively tried to scuttle Brexit through illegal and extra-legal processes and arguments. When it comes to Dolan’s 1200 page case against the LDs and illegal laws, outlining in grand detail the illegality of the CV legislation and how it contravenes evthg from Magna Carta to the Human Rights act, they had no interest. Dolan said they did not even bother to read the submission. But if it was a massive dossier against Brexit or something to support one of their fav pets, well ho, ho, ho, they would spend all the time in the world processing that claim.

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kate
kate
5 years ago
Reply to  FerdIII

Pam Popper’s organisation in the US is bringing lawsuits. One feisty lady.

Based on challenging the EMERGENCY. not using human rights legislation.

Judges will always rule in favour of the legislature, saying that the government does have emergency powers to override individual freedoms.

You need to challenge the basis of the emergency itself. Unsurprisingly, TPTB cannot point to any data that shows there is an emergency.

In this interview, Spiro’s guest Dr. Pamela Popper discusses two new lawsuits that she believes could end Covid-1984. The two lawsuits, one in Ohio and one in New Mexico, challenge the root of the problem: the emergency itself.

https://www.activistpost.com/2020/12/the-lawsuit-that-could-end-covid-1984-with-dr-pam-popper.html

This is the way to go.

So far, the other side has refused and blocked attempts so make them show the evidence for the lockdowns.
Because there is none.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hirou0W8Pt8&feature=emb_logo&ab_channel=TruthMatters

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Rowan
Rowan
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve Hayes

If cases can’t proceed, then you can’t be tried for a breach of the Coronavirus Act. Hence it is unenforceable.

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Crimson Avenger
Crimson Avenger
5 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Yes Robin Tilbrook (English Democrats) keeps asking for donations for this purpose but I can’t find a link on his website.

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Rowan
Rowan
5 years ago
Reply to  Annie

No.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
5 years ago
Reply to  Hugh_Manity

Saga or Sage ?

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Hugh_Manity
Hugh_Manity
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Both lol…

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Thomasina
Thomasina
5 years ago
Reply to  Hugh_Manity

What about Pimlico Plumbers – the owner of this company said no jab, no job!!! Would he also say that to his customers? Great customer service!

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
5 years ago
Reply to  Thomasina

Pimlico Plumbers are skating on thin ice as they could be hit with discrimination lawsuits or what about employees who develop side effects that will render them unfit to work.

What about customers? There could be discrimination cases as well.

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Prof Feargoeson
Prof Feargoeson
5 years ago
Reply to  Bart Simpson

What if a customer who’s never left their Pimlico mansion flat since March claims they have caught it from a vaccinated plumber. “But you told me he was safe to come in now!”

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
5 years ago
Reply to  Prof Feargoeson

That should be interesting. One thing I hope is that Pimlico Plumbers have extremely deep pockets because they will be facing a tsunami of litigation against them.

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Rowan
Rowan
5 years ago
Reply to  Bart Simpson

An employer that insists on an employee being vaccinated should be asked to sign a formal document committing the employer to pay damages to the named employee in the case of any vaccine injury. The damages to be paid should not be less than than £5 million.

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Crimson Avenger
Crimson Avenger
5 years ago
Reply to  Thomasina

The daft thing is the plumber who comes in your house could be suffering from dengue fever and a handful of other terrible diseases, but that doesn’t seem to be a worry.

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Rowan
Rowan
5 years ago
Reply to  Crimson Avenger

Really good of you to clear that matter.

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Hugh
Hugh
5 years ago
Reply to  Crimson Avenger

He/she might have been on holiday in – oh, wait a moment…

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JHUNTZ
JHUNTZ
5 years ago
Reply to  Thomasina

Plumbers are in high demand. I reckon he will just lose the 20% of his workforce who have brains and be forced to backtrack. He’s an idiot possibly just enjoying the limelight and has swalled the COVID bollocks easy to do when it’s not affected business.

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
5 years ago
Reply to  JHUNTZ

I won’t be surprised if many of his employees would just go “sod this” and strike out on their own.

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Christopher
Christopher
5 years ago
Reply to  JHUNTZ

Some who value their health will leave but a lot of plumbers are ” money spiders ” or ” mad for the graft ” as we say in the trades so they will do as they are told because those boys are really nicking a pound note or two at Pimlico .

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JHUNTZ
JHUNTZ
5 years ago
Reply to  Christopher

No doubt, but even 20% of skilled employees is hard to recruit overnight.

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Christopher
Christopher
5 years ago
Reply to  JHUNTZ

That is true , they really in demand , also if they collectivised and formed some sort shop ( difficult when you are all sub contractors ) then they really would be able to refuse being forced into taking the jab and would have the ageing Rod Stewart lookalike by the balls .

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HaylingDave
HaylingDave
5 years ago
Reply to  Thomasina

Has anyone watched the GMB video where Pimlico CEO – Charlie Mullins – “discusses” with Piers regarding his reasoning behind this, and that oaf Morgan wholeheartedly agrees with him (“I would definitely feel more comfortable using a plumber who I knew was vaccinated” … “I would definitely support companies using vaccinated employes”, etc …)

Mullins was horrible – and that’s a tough task to pull off when you’re sharing squares with Piers. Two fucking nobs.

Mullings goes on to state – rather casually at the end – that only vaccinated people be allowed in pubs/restaurants.

No mention of vaccination exemptions; disgracefully no mention of how being vaccinated does not hinder transmission.

The girl they were berating – Paris ? – was lovely, calm, articulate and did sooo well in maintaining her demeanor amidst such idiocy.

Watch only if you’re already in a dark place.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5641x_7qeOU

cheers
Dave

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HaylingDave
HaylingDave
5 years ago
Reply to  HaylingDave

Oh yes, and the good Doctor put in another paid appearance – stating definitely that the vaccine is safe for pregnant women, because there is no data stating otherwise. What.A.F.U.C.K.I.N.G.Dick!

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Crimson Avenger
Crimson Avenger
5 years ago
Reply to  Hugh_Manity

Personally I would just look elsewhere. There are plenty of tour operators offering overpriced unrematkable packages,

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Sarigan
Sarigan
5 years ago
Reply to  Crimson Avenger

There are also many smaller independent ones offering incredible trips offering excellent value for money. Biased due to my job I know, but the industry is not all just big impersonal tour ops. Not that holidays will be permitted again any time soon.

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James Leary #KBF
James Leary #KBF
5 years ago
Reply to  Hugh_Manity

Slowly

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Rowan
Rowan
5 years ago
Reply to  Hugh_Manity

With their usual brand of stupidity.

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ElizaP
ElizaP
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve Hayes

The first thought that struck me on that is that home-owners may be the worst people for an employer to try and force the vax onto. Reason being many of us have the legal add-on to our home insurance cover. That legal add-on doesn’t just cover us for bad neighbours. It also covers us for employment claims. Thus, if an employer tries to unfairly dismiss someone for refusing to have the vax, then that employee might be a home-owner with that legal add-on and the employer could find that employee does have the means to bring an unfair dismissal claim back against them (even if their Union does that 2020/21 Big Wimp act Unions seem to be doing at present.

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JHUNTZ
JHUNTZ
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve Hayes

That was a fantastic update.

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Cecil B
Cecil B
5 years ago

Thing that were allowed in 1984 but not 2021

Pubs, restaurants, cafes. Meeting your children and grandchildren. Sport. Going outside. Dissent. Shopping. Cinemas. Meeting your parents or grandparents. Christmas. Work

Required in 2021 but not 1984

Masks. Mass medical experiments. Imprisonment in Care Hones. Mobile phones. The requirement to pay for your own imprisonment. Facial recognition. Vast DNA databases. ANPR.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
5 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

Masks are central to the 2006 Clive Owen movie Inside Man.
Masked bank robbers force dozens of hostages to wear masks for hours on end and use other tactics to confuse and destabilize them mentally.
They have very good reason for doing this.

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WeAllFallDown
WeAllFallDown
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

I LOVE that film!

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Prof Feargoeson
Prof Feargoeson
5 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

Schooling.

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J4mes
J4mes
5 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

I appreciate you’re probably not being pedantic, but I don’t recall Christmas featuring in the book. Dissent was only allowed when projected at the nation’s chosen foreign enemy and shopping was extremely restricted – particularly the items you can buy. I don’t recall cinemas featuring either.

What I would say is if any of those activities did exist in the book, they would be extremely limited/restricted and heavily monitored.

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Annie
Annie
5 years ago

Been reflecting that the Fascists really have to go on lying about asymptomatic transmission.Otherwise, even the occasional zombie might start saying to itself, ‘Doh, if I feel perfectly ok it doesn’t seem very likely that I’m ill, and if I’m not ill I can’t make other people ill, so I might as well get on with living my life.’ Oops, end of the bollox, pronto.

I get the occasional cold every year. From now on, should I assume that I have a permanent cold although I fell perfectly well?

I am reminded even more forcefully than before of Jules Romains’ satirical play Knock: ‘Tous les hommes bien portants sont des malades qui s’ignorent, ‘all healthy people are actually ill, they just don’t know it.’ A maxim which the protagonist applies with deadly effect to enslave the entire population for his own profit.

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Steve Hayes
Steve Hayes
5 years ago
Reply to  Annie

How’s the asymptomatic broken leg?

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Crimson Avenger
Crimson Avenger
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve Hayes

I had it tested and it’s healing nicely.

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HaylingDave
HaylingDave
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve Hayes

I didn’t even know I had one. Thanks for pointing it out.

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RichardJames
RichardJames
5 years ago
Reply to  HaylingDave

Priceless! Just laughed out loud!

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Rowan
Rowan
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve Hayes

Hang gliding.

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FerdIII
FerdIII
5 years ago
Reply to  Annie

you not only have CV 19 even though you are fit, healthy, no symptoms…you also have – malaria, diarrhoea, TB, dengue, west nile, east nile (all the niles actually), SARS 1, Mad cow, Ebola, and itchy elbow which leads to licking balls syndrome…..in fact you need 15 vaxx’s and 15 passports….the vaxx’s will be delivered monthly of course due to variants, the licking balls one is particularly fierce and mutable.

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Crimson Avenger
Crimson Avenger
5 years ago
Reply to  FerdIII

Again you make a valid point. It is possible for any of these diseases to be present and if they tested us to the nth degree would no doubt be found. However our immune systems reject them and we do not get sick even though we know they exist.

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Nigel Sherratt
Nigel Sherratt
5 years ago
Reply to  FerdIII

Dee Nile?

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RichardJames
RichardJames
5 years ago
Reply to  Nigel Sherratt

That’s the one that lockdown supporters suffer from!

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bluemoon
bluemoon
5 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Re the asymptomatic bollox: a couple of times recently I’ve said, “if I haven’t got a fiver in my purse I can’t lend it to you can I?”
A half smile is the reaction I get (even though it’s not a particularly clever analogy).

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JHUNTZ
JHUNTZ
5 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Yes, moreso you should assume you have COVID and are at deaths door.

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Ken Gardner
Ken Gardner
5 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Have you seen this Annie? Henna Maria talks very emotionally about the “curse of asymptomatic transmission”. Also Reiner Fuellmich, the German lawyer, says it is the key to all the fear. “Everyone is a threat.”

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_KIYtfDlXvE&feature=share

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Nigel Sherratt
Nigel Sherratt
5 years ago
Reply to  Ken Gardner

Yes, the most brilliant part of the whole CCP psyop.

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Ken Gardner
Ken Gardner
5 years ago
Reply to  Nigel Sherratt

Yes, and I also understand this is a key part of Fuellmich’s action against Drosten and others, who perpetrated the myth that the woman who first brought the virus to Germany from Wuhan was asymptomatic. Fuellmich claims she had symptoms and was taking flu medications!

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Annie
Annie
5 years ago
Reply to  Nigel Sherratt

That, and the wicked mantra of knicker-your-face-to-protect-me, which restrains many a victim from taking the filthy, useless nappy off.

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jonathan Palmer
jonathan Palmer
5 years ago

What a act of pure spite banning flights from the UAE.All those pictures of reality stars enjoying normal life in Dubai over Christmas just wouldn’t do.

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Spikedee1
Spikedee1
5 years ago
Reply to  jonathan Palmer

Yes poor pratty, she won’t look like that in a thong, so I’ll ban all of you. So somebody else’s living you are taking away! Non essential to who?

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Cecil B
Cecil B
5 years ago

The three cheques are in the post

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Annie
Annie
5 years ago

The most excellent Irreverend at work again:

https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/irreverend-faith-and-current-affairs/id1528967755

Among other things, they discuss the ghastly ‘Look in my eyes’ ads and ask: so how did these harrowing victims catch the bug? Were they sticking to the rules?Or did they catch it in hospital?If so, whose fault was that?’

Good questions.

Also some excellent advice: stop watching the TV news. Advice that I hope we are all following anyway!

And an excellent point about the attempt to suppress dissent: the entire British legal system and parliamentary system depend on opposition and debate. To suppress debate is characteristic of totalitarianism.

Indeed.

PS. You don’t need to be a Christian to appreciate this series, though of course it helps.

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Bungle
Bungle
5 years ago
Reply to  Annie

If Jesus of Nazareth, the Palestinian prophet & teacher, were alive today, do you think he would want to want to be a Christian???

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Annie
Annie
5 years ago
Reply to  Bungle

Not in any of the established churches, that’s for sure.
Can you imsgine Jesus refusing to heal anybody except asymptomatic lepers, and telling with relish how the Good Samaritan was arrested and heavily fined for breaking lockdown rules?

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Crimson Avenger
Crimson Avenger
5 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Thank you for making the point about asymptomatic leprosy. I would love to shake your hand.

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Spikedee1
Spikedee1
5 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Its kinda ironic that its the Jews of New York who have stood up to the tyrant Cuomo and have been living normally despite constant police harassment.

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Bungle
Bungle
5 years ago
Reply to  Bungle

Minus vote for asking a question – free speech really has gone out of the window!

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Bugle
Bugle
5 years ago
Reply to  Bungle

Christian? It’s a broad church.

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ituex
ituex
5 years ago
Reply to  Annie

It’s good isn’t it. I’m quite lapsed but found myself considering going back if there are priests like this, I had no idea, assumed they were all like Justin Welty.

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Bill Grates
Bill Grates
5 years ago

The experts often refer to the benefits of following China , let’s the morons in charge don’t see this :-

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-27/china-coronavirus-new-invasive-quarantine-rules-lunar-new-year/13094370

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Tom Blackburn
Tom Blackburn
5 years ago
Reply to  Bill Grates

Yes, let’s copy a repressive regime.

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TheClone
TheClone
5 years ago
Reply to  Tom Blackburn

All SAGE experts couldn’t come with anything better – follow the science aka follow china! And the clown just went happily along!

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rockoman
rockoman
5 years ago
Reply to  TheClone

China does not use the Crosten PCR-

A ‘case’ must be symptomatic by the Chinese definition.

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Dorian_Hawkmoon
Dorian_Hawkmoon
5 years ago

Johnson: So, we’ve got them masked, tracked, jabbed and terrified, hanging on my every word for salvation. Winter’s end will mean the numbers will go down. How can we keep them humiliated and stop them getting upitty, guys n gals? (warbles, rolls cigar and smirks) Well sir, says Whitty, the Chinese have come up with anal swabs…
Johnson: I like your style, Whitters.

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jos
jos
5 years ago
Reply to  Dorian_Hawkmoon

Will it be compulsory for children going back to school? It’s not communists / fascists – it’s the paedophile satanists running this scam..

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FerdIII
FerdIII
5 years ago
Reply to  Dorian_Hawkmoon

would there be arse wiping drive thru test centres – roll down window, out goes the arse, in goes the detailed scrubbing, out comes the lovely bits to test. you know for efficiency sake.

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Sarigan
Sarigan
5 years ago
Reply to  FerdIII

Like this?

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PatrickF
PatrickF
5 years ago
Reply to  Sarigan

Claggy on the waggy?

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Ken Gardner
Ken Gardner
5 years ago
Reply to  Sarigan

Clever picture, but that’s a very small size bottom!

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Hoppy Uniatz
Hoppy Uniatz
5 years ago
Reply to  Dorian_Hawkmoon

I know I’ve posted this link before, but it seems apposite here.

http://viz.co.uk/015_bottom_inspectors/

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Nigel Sherratt
Nigel Sherratt
5 years ago
Reply to  Dorian_Hawkmoon

“Yer bum’s oot the windae” was a popular phrase in Dundee when I worked there, similar to “Haud yer weesht”.

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Bill Grates
Bill Grates
5 years ago

the LS opener is always some bs from the Telegraph usually followed by the Spectator all very interesting but the record is stuck .
Surely the LS team would be better to give much more coverage to the non establishment voices,

Here’s an example of someone much more authentic than the likes of Sharon Peacock :-

https://vimeo.com/498561475

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ituex
ituex
5 years ago
Reply to  Bill Grates

I am not hopeful that much will open this weekend,though there were several cars in the car park of our nearest village pub yesterday and last time that happened they set up a sort of outdoor takeaway.

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Bugle
Bugle
5 years ago
Reply to  Bill Grates

Must say, I thought ATL was quite good today and I’m highly sensitive to compromise, which is why I no longer read the DT or subscribe to the Spectator.

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Jane G
Jane G
5 years ago
Reply to  Bugle

ATL?

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Dermot McClatchey
Dermot McClatchey
5 years ago
Reply to  Jane G

Jane, you iz neither hip nor iz you with-it, sister. Get real. Get on down with it. Be there, or be square. Beat me, daddy, eight to the bar.
ATL- above the line.
BTL- nice sandwich on malted bread.

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Steve-Devon
Steve-Devon
5 years ago

I think the ruling Junta realise that this current nonsense is their last throw of the lockdown dice and that when they let up it will be hard to put the Genie back in the bottle and so they are playing this for as long as they can. What can be done to speed things up, to force their hand?
With regard to the re-opening protests this weekend it really needs a large group like Weatherspoons to come out and support it, to drive a wedge in the Gov’s lockdown but there is little sign of that happening. Do we just have to wait until something happens? e.g. PCR test ruled illegal, numbers drop, economy crashes, weather improves?
Or is there some action that can be taken?

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steve_w
steve_w
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

I don’t think we can do much until the season changes and the academics show conclusively, looking back over 2 seasons of this virus that lockdowns don’t work

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Steve Hayes
Steve Hayes
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

The Sunday trading laws were reformed when large retailers blatantly ignored them.

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Jane G
Jane G
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve Hayes

That’s what I scream at the radio every time I hear the smirking woman from the Tesco as telling me what I ‘must’ do in their stores. They were the first to break the law, then.

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Dermot McClatchey
Dermot McClatchey
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve Hayes

This is what I always bring to mind when someone starts descanting on about how the law must always be respected.

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Freecumbria
Freecumbria
5 years ago

Stop Press 3: New research in UK suggests the Pfizer vaccine with both doses administered is 100% effective against the fatal consequences of a meteorite landing on us.

Quick let’s all get vaccinated to stop getting killed by a meteorite

(same logic as the stop press 2 link above that the Pfizer vaccine with both doses administered is “99.96% effective”)

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FerdIII
FerdIII
5 years ago
Reply to  Freecumbria

99.96% effective – 99.7 will survive the virus nicely. So it might save 0.26 % ? Possible. I would guess the vaxx might help 10-30% in reducing symptoms, for a large minority it is neutral and for 10-15% it is negative including deaths. Is killing 22 people in a home in Hampshire after taking the vaxx part of the 99.96% calc I wonder?

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Vir Cotto
Vir Cotto
5 years ago
Reply to  Freecumbria

Debatable – we have to consider asymptomatic meteorites.

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steve_w
steve_w
5 years ago

was the camridge debate good last night? I watched Brady and he was excellent then I turned off when the speaker after him came on – I couldnt face it

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Tommo
Tommo
5 years ago
Reply to  steve_w

Very good debate and worth watching in full. Of course I am biased, but put side by side the lockdown sceptic arguments were far stronger.

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steve_w
steve_w
5 years ago
Reply to  Tommo

thanks. I will watch tonight when its up on youtube

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WasSteph
WasSteph
5 years ago
Reply to  steve_w

I intend to watch later, including listening to the other side but I know it will annoy me.
Well done Toby, Richard and Sir Graham. It shows that common sense prevails when an adult discussion is allowed on the subject. Now, how can we get one of those on MSM?

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Spikedee1
Spikedee1
5 years ago
Reply to  WasSteph

Why would they bother? They are getting more clicks and government spending on adverts in their papers/websites. So keep it going till the government stops giving us money. Then of course we all pile in to bring them down and get lots of revenue from that. I wonder how much one of those look them in the eyes full page costs the government?

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EllGee
EllGee
5 years ago
Reply to  steve_w

Very worth watching. If nothing else as a lesson in how to not follow the motion, platform instead but still get the message across. Well that’s what the 14 year old grandson, an enthusiastic member of his school’s debating society, emailed me with

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arfurmo
arfurmo
5 years ago
Reply to  steve_w

Who was allowed to vote, please?

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Hubes
Hubes
5 years ago

There isn’t going to be any roadmap out of lockdown/tiers. This is permanent and anybody who thinks differently is out of their mind.

Kids won’t go back until after Easter and then it will just be primary schools. We’ll all be in tier 4 until mid May. Then tier 3 until July. For July-October we’ll be tier 2, and then by next winter we’ll be in a full lockdown again for 4-5 months.

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steve_w
steve_w
5 years ago
Reply to  Hubes

The government needs to admit SAGE had failed. It followed their advice and we destroyed civil society AND performed way worse than Sweden

Time to retire SAGE and get a new SAGE. Could call them ‘SAGE_notretarded’

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mhcp
mhcp
5 years ago
Reply to  steve_w

ONION would be a better name

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Thomasina
Thomasina
5 years ago
Reply to  mhcp

Or Stuff Em!

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Crimson Avenger
Crimson Avenger
5 years ago
Reply to  steve_w

SAGE is packed with the academic labour party, people who can afford to be socialists. Its advice may occasionally be valid but it is wrong for the government not to take a wider range of advice when it is easily available to them.

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Bugle
Bugle
5 years ago
Reply to  Crimson Avenger

People who hate us.

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Bill H
Bill H
5 years ago
Reply to  Bugle

People who are heavily invested in the vaccination industry.

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Ken Gardner
Ken Gardner
5 years ago
Reply to  Bill H

On that subject, this video is fascinating, although I can’t vouch for its authenticity. Apparently CDC and Fauci have a patent on SARS viruses. The point is made that you can’t patent “nature” so either the virus is man made or the patent is not valid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKcSNrGf4dE&fbclid=IwAR12Bbj5ESaL0cAifynlG9xfsLFGtUp2031-jZaODJoTiqYOhn23EQ7hHEk

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TheClone
TheClone
5 years ago
Reply to  steve_w

The government will NEVER admit that SAGE – they are friends by now and you don’t fire a friend!

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Old Bill
Old Bill
5 years ago
Reply to  steve_w

I prefer SAGIE (pronounced saggy) – the scientific advisory group for imaginary emergencies.

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Thomasina
Thomasina
5 years ago
Reply to  Hubes

Yes, I read that many are calling for zero Covid and lockdown until September. Well, when does respiratory season start – errr September, so as you say lockdown continues. We will NEVER achieve zero Covid, it is crazy to even consider it.

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steve_w
steve_w
5 years ago
Reply to  Thomasina

anybody calling for zero covid is one of

1 – ignorant
2 – wants to bring down society (presumably so they can rebuild it to their specification)
3 – nuclear powered virtue signalling – calling for something that is impossible and then calling people heartless who say so

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Annie
Annie
5 years ago
Reply to  steve_w

4 stupid

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Tom Blackburn
Tom Blackburn
5 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Dangerous people that should be our target.

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Dermot McClatchey
Dermot McClatchey
5 years ago
Reply to  Tom Blackburn

People who believe, or purport to, that herd immunity is a policy option.

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
5 years ago
Reply to  Annie

5 delusional

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FerdIII
FerdIII
5 years ago
Reply to  Thomasina

covidiots who believe you can eradicate flu family viruses….like saying we will achieve zero Co2….you know plant food that produce oxygen….brilliant minds.

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jb12
jb12
5 years ago
Reply to  Thomasina

That is what happened in Scotland last year, probably in some failed attempt by the SNP to pretend they did better than England.

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Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
5 years ago
Reply to  Thomasina

DELUSIONAL ARROGANCE.

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Vir Cotto
Vir Cotto
5 years ago
Reply to  Thomasina

Just nuke everything from orbit, to be safe! It’s like wasting time wiping your shopping with antibacterial wipes. Just cover your digestives in petrol and set fire to them. Only way to be sure.

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Steve-Devon
Steve-Devon
5 years ago
Reply to  Hubes

One issue will be; for how long are they going to keep these Covid test centres going? Presumably they are costing significant money to keep operating? If these start to close down, the dodgy numbers will go down and it will be more clearly seen that this is a hospital and care home disease and not a disease of universal concern.
Somehow we need to push the message don’t get tested, close the test centres.

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

And many of them are dead and an eyesore if they’re located in public parks. What is the purpose of them?

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Bugle
Bugle
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

Lots of people don’t get tested. Those that do are either patients or workers in state-controlled institutions.

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Spikedee1
Spikedee1
5 years ago
Reply to  Bugle

Most of the tests are retests for people who are being forced into getting tested like health workers.

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FerdIII
FerdIII
5 years ago
Reply to  Hubes

Agree, I feel the same. Some respite in the summer. Diapers mandatory. I am expecting surgical masks to be mandatory by next winter.

No schools will reopen for those above age 10.
Full LD in September to ‘get ahead of the latest scary variant’.

More death porn cranked up by fake data. CV 19 will be renamed Plague 21 etc. As they always do, one infectious disease is ‘resolved’ but they simply change the name to something else (more vaxx, more drugs etc) and ramp up the fear.

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Bugle
Bugle
5 years ago
Reply to  Hubes

Yes, Johnson is an inveterate liar. I’m waiting for the 1922 committee to wake up to the fact that every time he promises some concession or other, his government confects a fresh crisis out of dubious data and takes it away again.

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TheClone
TheClone
5 years ago
Reply to  Bugle

Don’t hold your breath! It will never happen!

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Bungle
Bungle
5 years ago

LS readers may have come across the group in the west of Canada who have declared ‘Common Law Assemblies’ which declare masks & lockdowns to be “unlawful, unwarranted and medically unsound (which) threaten and assault our fundamental liberties health and security”. When you look into it, you may conclude the guy leading it is a crank but, actually, what he says is how it should be i. e. democratic, up to the individual. Does this help us in our willingness to act instead of writing self-congratulatory nonsense? Yes, and I’m starting in Tesco’s Ilkley this morning at 9 O’clock -please come and video. Tesco and other supermarkets have taken the extraordinary step of deciding to attack the vulnerable who are exempt from wearing a mask. The keys here are these logical points which many don’t seem to understand – first, you can exempt yourself if “putting on, wearing or removing a face covering will cause you severe distress”. Second, “you do not routinely need to show any written evidence of this. You do not need to seek advice or request a letter from a medical professional”. These are the government website’s own words and this means you decide whether you… Read more »

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Bella Donna
Bella Donna
5 years ago
Reply to  Bungle

Good luck and please film it!

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Bungle
Bungle
5 years ago
Reply to  Bella Donna

Will do – give us a like.

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Annie
Annie
5 years ago
Reply to  Bungle

My best wishes and prayers, Bungle!
My dog is proud to share your name.

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Bungle
Bungle
5 years ago
Reply to  Annie

X Have you liked me?

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Annie
Annie
5 years ago
Reply to  Bungle

I only like dogs.

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Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
5 years ago

The other day I reccomended Mark Kermode’s secrets of Cinema to fellow sceptics.
The last episode concerned “cult” films one of which showed a actor really eating dog sh×t.
You know what’s coming next don’t you?
If the “experts” “advised” the government to “advise” people to do so, do FS’S think there would be a shortage of dog sh×t?

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Jez Hewitt
Jez Hewitt
5 years ago
Reply to  Fingerache Philip

Salo, or the 120 Days of Sodom? If you haven’t seen it, proceed with caution. An allegory of our times.

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Nigel Sherratt
Nigel Sherratt
5 years ago
Reply to  Fingerache Philip

At least we could make some money in puppy farming.

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JaneHarry
JaneHarry
5 years ago

comment BTL on the Times article about Patel’s plan to stop us from leaving the country:

I am not particularly objecting, but doesn’t the government have to put these things forward and subject them to a vote, a bill, before they become law?

sad and pathetic to watch the slowly creaking machinery in the mind of the normie registering that there’s something not quite right here, a faint and barely detectable alarm bell going off

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FerdIII
FerdIII
5 years ago
Reply to  JaneHarry

The island becomes a large prison – to stop a virus, the vaxx etc won’t stop transmission. 99.7% will survive. You could make the same argument about any infectious disease including the ‘normal flu’. you don’t shut down and imprison an entire country over 100 K dying from an infectious disease, of which maybe 50% died with, not from it. More dead will result from that policy than from the infection.

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Bella Donna
Bella Donna
5 years ago
Reply to  FerdIII

You’re right but many of us have known this for quite some time, nevertheless, this evil government and their academics are determined to make us suffer, can it be because we voted to leave the EU against their wishes and this is pay back? I wish I knew the answer, but what they are doing is a crime and they must pay!

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FerdIII
FerdIII
5 years ago
Reply to  Bella Donna

Last March I told colleagues that the only future job would be in the Corona KGB. They all sniggered. It is only for 2 weeks they said. Don’t be a doom and gloomer they advised. We need to help each other they offered. We are all in this together they decided. It will end, evthg will be fine, V shaped recovery they guaranteed.

Now they are not so sure I was such a ‘crank’.

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Bella Donna
Bella Donna
5 years ago
Reply to  JaneHarry

My alarm bells have been going off since last March! I didn’t think it was possible to ‘hate’ quite as much as I do.

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Annie
Annie
5 years ago
Reply to  Bella Donna

Agreed.
Or to love liberty, normality, courage, truth, decency, and all the little innocent things of life, quite so much.

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Draefend
Draefend
5 years ago
Reply to  Bella Donna

I actually hate the fact that I was ranting about this last March when forced out of Spain with a large tour group I organised and no-one else saw anything possibly amiss.

Nearly one year on and only 4 or 5 of that group (10% approx) now think that something odd is going on.

These are not stupid people…or at least didn’t think they were.

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Annie
Annie
5 years ago
Reply to  JaneHarry

And in come the illegals on their lilos.

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WasSteph
WasSteph
5 years ago
Reply to  Annie

She really is a despicable combination of useless and authoritarian. I really hope for a decent alternative by the next election (she is my MP) or I’ll have to spoil my ballot paper with a short essay on why none of the above as I did in the last locals.

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Boris Bullshit
Boris Bullshit
5 years ago
Reply to  WasSteph

I think she is about the worst…very much the combination you say.

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Basileus
Basileus
5 years ago

I have just finished reading this book: ‘The British Constitution and the Corruption of Parliament’, by Ben Greene. The book was recommended in a UK Column podcast on Common Law. It is a collection of essays originally written for the AK Chesterton (not to be confused with GK) Society which were originally written between 1950 and 1980. It is hard to believe they were not written yesterday as they are remarkably prescient. Almost every line in these writings seems to apply directly to our current situation. Here is a taste: ‘The Party system has not only engrossed the whole authority of the nation into its hands, but can successfully prevent the influence of any shade of opinion or the demand the redress of grievance in Parliament: it permits only its own policy to be given effective expression’. The only remedy which the party system is able to propose is a coalition of the parties under some resounding name of national solidarity. By this means the party system can protect itself from the mutual recrimination for the collapse and failure of all its rival policies.’ ‘The British system of government based on professional party politicians has palpably failed. ……. the party politicians assumed control of the most… Read more »

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Annie
Annie
5 years ago
Reply to  Basileus

The present evil has been lurking in the body politic for a long time. It is now manifest as a foul, ugly boil full of stinking moral pus.
Maybe we mow have a chance to lancet the boil.

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TJN
TJN
5 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Yes, one way or another this evil was going to show its face. Covid is just the vehicle; had it not been covid it would have been something else. I’ve believed that since last April, when the thought suddenly popped into my head out of nowhere.

This is a battle for the soul of our society. And I remain confident – and I hope not complacent – that, eventually, the evil doers will over-reach and destroy themselves.

I feel in my bones that the perpetrators of this evil, wallowing in smugness, self-importance and virtue as they now are, will face a terrible backlash in the fullness of time.

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AngloWelshDragon
AngloWelshDragon
5 years ago

I really don’t think I have ever felt more depressed or disillusioned. We have been right about so much throughout this crisis and most notably that lockdown was a mistake that has done a huge amount of damage and will ultimately cost more lives than the virus. However, we are clearly not winning this argument. We are the prophets who are not welcome in their own land, to use a biblical metaphor. The pro lockdown side has such a grip on the media and the academy and, as always, it is the victors who will write the history of this time. Lockdown sceptics had better get used to being viewed with hostility and ignominy for a very, very long time. We can mutter “I told you so” under our breath for the rest of our lives but the cognitive dissonance apparent in 80% of the public means that nobody is going to be connecting the dots from lockdown to Mrs A’s cancer of Mr B’s suicide anytime soon. We have witnessed the end of times in in terms of western democracy and everything we thought our nation was. We have been revealed as an infantile, cowardly people ruled by monomaniacal… Read more »

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Annie
Annie
5 years ago
Reply to  AngloWelshDragon

The war isn’t over yet and no victory has been declared.
When Darwin and Wallace first published the most powerful theory ever advanced in science, they were pilloried and derided, not least by the scientific establishment of the day. A question was set in the Cambridge Natural Sciences tripos requiring candidates to explain why the theory was wrong.
Who won the victory there?
JUST DON’T GIVE UP.

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AngloWelshDragon
AngloWelshDragon
5 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Darwin had the benefit of living in an age of enquiry and exploration and did not have to contend with a mass media walking in lockstep with a globalist agenda. We only have to look at the way the GBD scientists are treated to see how even people of their calibre are derided.

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Tom Blackburn
Tom Blackburn
5 years ago
Reply to  AngloWelshDragon

Once the hysteria falls away (matter of weeks), the inquiries start. Keep the faith.

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steve_w
steve_w
5 years ago
Reply to  Tom Blackburn

yes, I think the hysteria will reduce and until that point there is nothing we can do

I have had a lot of contact with my CRG member MP. Very much against lockdowns but voted for all of them.

My latest email was ‘…given the harms I have outlined, I trust you will vote against these new restrictions’ and his answer contained some nonsense about the new variant. He was clearly in hysteria mode.

I think a lot of emails to go out to MPs in a month’s time looking back on 2 seasons of this virus and comparing free-Sweden with unfree-Europe

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EllGee
EllGee
5 years ago
Reply to  steve_w

I’m impressed your MP still writes back. I’ve gone onto my MPs naughty list for taking up too much time

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HaylingDave
HaylingDave
5 years ago
Reply to  EllGee

SNAP! I was officially told to stop writing to mine. He’s too busy dealing with high priority covid issues … although I haven’t once seen an initiative he’s been involved with. £84K+ per year? Dosh well spent (well, compared to PPE or T&T, I suppose).

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Cheezilla
Cheezilla
5 years ago
Reply to  HaylingDave

Plus the extra £10k they got to facilitate working from home.

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RichardJames
RichardJames
5 years ago
Reply to  Tom Blackburn

Yes! The lunacy will fail at first slowly, then very suddenly.

The most annoying thing will be that “everyone is a sceptic now” like the French Resistance, once the War has been won.

Last edited 5 years ago by RichardJames
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PastImperfect
PastImperfect
5 years ago
Reply to  AngloWelshDragon

It is we little people who will have to make the effort to end this nightmare – made more sinister, and perhaps more devastating, by the lights of perverted “vaccines”. (Apologies to WSC)

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FerdIII
FerdIII
5 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Darwinism has been disproven more times than the Islam is peace nonsense.
How did DNA self form? Why would a wolf become a whale? How does perfect design arise from chaos?
Basic micro biology has disproven Darwinism.
Not a good example to use.

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mhcp
mhcp
5 years ago
Reply to  FerdIII

Yes it’s important to point out that Darwinism is an example of observational science rather than experimental science. The general principle that evolution is a series of incremental steps appears sound but the problem is that it doesn’t explain biological dead-ends or that we consist of a lot of junk as opposed to DNA. As a vague idea it stands better up against Intentional design but that’s about it.

And it’s actually not the main principle in biology. The Red Queen theory that Matt Ridley is famous is an addition to basic Darwinism where you need an antagonist to evolve but you are never really out of its shadow.

Darwinism isn’t the same thing as the Principle of Least Energy because you can test that even though it also is quite esoteric.

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Nigel Sherratt
Nigel Sherratt
5 years ago
Reply to  FerdIII

Mouse you mean.

Mouse whale.jpg
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Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  FerdIII

Of course it’s been disproven (so far as anything can be disproven or proven). Once ideas get lodged in people’s heads though, they are very difficult to dislodge.

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Steve Hayes
Steve Hayes
5 years ago
Reply to  Annie

The notion that Darwin was pilloried by the scientific community for his On the Origin of Species is not just false, it is absurd. The striking thing about the reception of On the Origin… is just how readily it was accepted.

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Annie
Annie
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve Hayes

Depends when, where and whom you’re referring to.

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Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

and now the theory (hypothesis or philosophy really) of these amateur scientists(or amateur philosophers?) – which if they knew what is known now by science they might have rejected if we look at their own words – is core establishment belief. and, as it happens, responsible for the deaths of millions of people. (i suspect i’m not going to make many friends saying this. the power of propaganda…)

the prservation of favoured races indeed

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Niborxof
Niborxof
5 years ago
Reply to  AngloWelshDragon

I understand how you feel and often feel the same. Then in moments of lucidity we should take comfort when the argument at a university full of ‘post modern’ thinkers at the height of propaganda campaign gives me a lot of hope. You can no more control truth than a virus. Time is our friend and their enemy.

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Niborxof
Niborxof
5 years ago
Reply to  Niborxof

I the argument against lockdown carried.

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Crimson Avenger
Crimson Avenger
5 years ago
Reply to  AngloWelshDragon

Fear not, in the time of the flat earth, people who said the world was round were the sceptics.

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Steve-Devon
Steve-Devon
5 years ago
Reply to  AngloWelshDragon

You are not wrong and much of this hoo-haa has laid bare the paucity of intelligence and integrity in our public and political life. But just as viruses have an ebb and a low in their activity so does the life of a nation and things will move on.
The news was reporting a surge of people optimistically booking holidays in the expectation that this will be all over soon and they can go on holiday, this ruling dictatorship Junta may be appalling and obnoxious but they are not totally stupid and I think they can sense the growing swell of expectation in the people. They are desperately trying to keep this going as long as possibly in the hope that come the Cornish G7 meeting in June Uberfuhrer Johnson can stand up as the Global super hero who took on Covid and triumphed.
Also around June time we have the Queens birthday honours list, I predict Knighthoods for Hancock & Witty. Once Johnson is declared global superhero and his underlings have their gongs then I think the pressure will ease off.

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AngloWelshDragon
AngloWelshDragon
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

You may be right but it will all be presented as the fruits of lockdown. We can have our holidays and Whitty can have his gong because we were good. Those of us who disputed the efficacy of lockdown will continue to be vilified as the covidiots who killed tens of thousands of additional people and prolonged lockdown for months by not “getting with the programme”. You think Bojo can claim victory with supposedly 100K+ Covid deaths? They are going to need to be blamed on someone other then himself and lockdown sceptics are being fattened up as the scapegoats.

Last edited 5 years ago by AngloWelshDragon
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Bugle
Bugle
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

I think you’re onto something thing. It struck me the other day that narcissist Johnson’s instinct is always to take the lead, make himself look heroic. That’s why he put himself at the head of vaccination and wants a leading role in the WEF. Hancock is, for his own dark reasons, also keen to put himself at the helm and we must anticipate (with nausea) his forthcoming Davos speech – something about disease being the driving force of the new world economy?

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
5 years ago
Reply to  AngloWelshDragon

I know how you feel and there are times I yo-yo between optimism and despair.

However we need to keep the faith. The fact that the government are resorting to more lies and manipulation can only mean one thing – they’re running scared.

Truth will prevail in the end.

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Crystal Decanter
Crystal Decanter
5 years ago
Reply to  AngloWelshDragon

Gandhi won

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AngloWelshDragon
AngloWelshDragon
5 years ago
Reply to  Crystal Decanter

Gandhi wasn’t portrayed by a rabid media as being responsible for murdering tens of thousands of grannies. We will be.

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Jo
Jo
5 years ago
Reply to  AngloWelshDragon

Being a pessimist, I’ve had lots of bad days lately but today there is a glimmer of good news. That Human Rights stuff about the vaccine – very good. There is a lot going on about the vaccines generally, there are medics questioning their efficacy and safety. There is beginning to be (far too late of course) more focus on the incredible harm to children and young people.
Also – more interesting articles in the round up today – unlike previously.
Let’s hope the candle of light at the end of the tunnel doesn’t get blown out.

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Boris Bullshit
Boris Bullshit
5 years ago
Reply to  AngloWelshDragon

I agree with much of what you say. I think this kind of thing has been a long time coming. You see it in terms of the erosion of free speech,the growth of the nanny state, the conversion of the police from citizens in uniform to a state enforcement machine etc etc.

I also agree about the people who support this…I no longer want such people in my life even if they are former friends or even family. How can I like people who want to destroy every kind of civilisation we have known. Almost nothing is allowed now other than eating and using technology in the home. This is disastrous for people’s weight and mental and physical health.

I simply no longer contact anyone who supports this…as far as I am concerned they are collaborators in evil and are effectively lost to a cult to which
I do not belong.

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RichardJames
RichardJames
5 years ago
Reply to  AngloWelshDragon

You aren’t wrong; keep the faith. We will be proved right in the end and victory will be all the sweeter.

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Rowan
Rowan
5 years ago
Reply to  AngloWelshDragon

You won’t be able to say “I told you so” because the vaccinated won’t be around to listen, as if they ever did. Yes it does seem futile trying to convince the brain dead masses and so I have largely cut them out of my life.

Last edited 5 years ago by Rowan
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PastImperfect
PastImperfect
5 years ago
Reply to  AngloWelshDragon

The Great Reopening. Hope you can find an eatery/watering hole to your taste tomorrow.

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Tom Blackburn
Tom Blackburn
5 years ago

Why haven’t Suneptra Gupta, Carl Henegan etc sued Neil O’Brien etc?

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Basileus
Basileus
5 years ago
Reply to  Tom Blackburn

Yes, I was wondering that.

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
5 years ago
Reply to  Tom Blackburn

Exactly. Why would they waste their energy on an idiot like O’Brien?

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Spikedee1
Spikedee1
5 years ago
Reply to  Bart Simpson

Unlike LS who want to keep this going because it named Toby. Its just another know nothing MP gobbling off. Little people jumping on bandwagons. If the narrative changes and we suddenly learn about all the corruption and waste that have happened and the msm starts highlighting the mismanagement of the nhs, this twat will dissappear and never be heard of again.

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
5 years ago
Reply to  Spikedee1

It’s like those reality stars and celebs who want their 15 minutes of fame isn’t it?

And many of these creeps have overstayed their welcome and really need to go.

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HaylingDave
HaylingDave
5 years ago
Reply to  Tom Blackburn

They are too classy to stoop ……..

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Nigel Sherratt
Nigel Sherratt
5 years ago
Reply to  Tom Blackburn

Going to law is a casino at the best of times and these are not those (unless they put it all on 22).

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Vir Cotto
Vir Cotto
5 years ago
Reply to  Tom Blackburn

Carl Henegan was on JHB’s show on TalkRadio earlier. First time I’ve seen him in a while.

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Ovis
Ovis
5 years ago

Accountability is another word that has been redefined. It now refers exclusively to the progressive reduction of the powerless by the powerful. Accountability goes in only one direction, the proles are accountable to their masters. Lynn pays lip service to the basic human right of bodily autonomy, but asserts that those who withhold consent to an invasive medical procedure should accept the ‘consequence’ of unemployment. In this position, we have the autonomy of an enslaved concubine in the sultan’s harem, who may withhold consent but must accept the consequences. Lynn tacitly admits this represents a change in the current status of the citizen, and the human, as he demands new legislation to make it happen. But what of Lynn’s accountability? He publishes an article attacking the basic human right of bodily autonomy and endangering the established relationship of the state with citizens. If I were to suggest that of course he should have the right of free expression, but if he uses it in this manner he should accept Laudian consequences (severing of his writing hand, plucking out of his tongue), that would be construed as incitement. But is Lynn not guilty of incitement to the violation of human rights?… Read more »

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mhcp
mhcp
5 years ago
Reply to  Ovis

Lynn embodies the “world must change for me” mantra. If you don’t like the risk Matthew then stop driving and stay at home in your bubble. Because we could equally just say that if you don’t have a science degree then you should shut your mouth reporting on science issues.

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THE REAL NORMAL PODCAST
THE REAL NORMAL PODCAST
5 years ago

Hi All, NEW PODCAST is out (it’s in the roundup – cheers!)

We discuss the way out of this mess. Now we have vaccines what should we be doing to open up the country…and when?

We also chat about the vaccine rollout, school closures, WHO and CDC PCR testing notices and implications, is there a price on life? At what cost to the young?

Plus all our usual chats and songs along the way.

https://therealnormalpodcast.buzzsprout.com/1268768/7537837-ep-17-the-way-out
 
Leave us a review on itunes PLEASE! We’re in the Top 200 now – lets spread the sceptic message!

Email us: therealnormalpodcast@gmail.com
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THE REAL NORMAL PODCAST
THE REAL NORMAL PODCAST
5 years ago
Reply to  THE REAL NORMAL PODCAST

Also you’ll find NOT Neil Fergusons Horoscope Phone Line call in!

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PastImperfect
PastImperfect
5 years ago
Reply to  THE REAL NORMAL PODCAST

Dr Dolores Cahill: Why many will die months after taking the mRNA Vaccines | FromRome.Info

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mhcp
mhcp
5 years ago

One of the things I have noticed recently being back in the real workforce is that it isn’t about individuals and how they feel about the measures, it’s about Health and Safety directives laid down either by environmental officers or departments.

You follow along because it’s your job or your business on the line. It’s not a nice position to be in.

The key issue here though is that how can any future HS advice be taken seriously? If you fell for the Covid scare what else is in your blindspot?

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Basileus
Basileus
5 years ago

Here is another NHS ad to complain to the Advertising Standards Agency about:

https://twitter.com/RWT_NHS/status/1354731218475036683/photo/1

‘Safe’ – means without risk

‘… the more people that have the vaccine, the sooner we can all go back to our normal lives.’ Not according to SAGE spokesmen.

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
5 years ago
Reply to  Basileus

Why don’t the NHS simply advocate people commit seppuku to keep safe and to stop the spread of the virus?

Because that’s the sense I’m getting from all these manipulative adverts.

And if they’re constantly whining about being short of cash then where is the money coming from to pay for these adverts?

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Bella Donna
Bella Donna
5 years ago
Reply to  Basileus

The propaganda is out of control.

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Scotty87
Scotty87
5 years ago

The self-styled hardman Neil O’Brein MP likes to go after lockdown sceptics when he is backed up by the rabid Covid fanatics of Twitter, but would he be brave enough to venture into the centre of Market Harborough in his constituency, and give a speech extolling the virtues of lockdowns amidst a backdrop of shuttered pubs, restaurants and hairdressers?

I’m guessing not, because like the rest of this rotten government save for a couple of diamonds, he is a spineless coward hiding behind the mainstream narrative.

Remember their names, people.

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
5 years ago
Reply to  Scotty87

And of course he’s cushioned by 2 homes (one in a lovely part of London no doubt), drawing a salary of over 80K, can claim expenses and a generous pension when he leaves.

He’s away in la-la land that he has no inkling of how the policies he endorses have ruined people’s lives.

He won’t dare venture out as well. Can you imagine if he’s recognised then beaten up?

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Nigel Sherratt
Nigel Sherratt
5 years ago
Reply to  Bart Simpson

80K is just the walking around money, allowances, subsidies, kick backs from no bid contracts etc. are where the real money is.

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Crystal Decanter
Crystal Decanter
5 years ago
Reply to  Scotty87

Archive everything from these collaborators
They will backtrack and try to acid wash all the evidence

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Annie
Annie
5 years ago
Reply to  Crystal Decanter

No chance. If it is, or has been, on a computer or on the Net, it’s recoverable and our lawyers will fund it.
Book your cell in Nuremberg, O’Brien.

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Richy_m_99
Richy_m_99
5 years ago
Reply to  Scotty87

Depends. Has MArket Harborough got a pillory? Otherwise, select a more suitable venue.

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DeepBlueYonder
DeepBlueYonder
5 years ago

Looking ahead, what vehicle is most likely ensure that the truth about the preparedness and response to SARS-CoV2 and Covid-19 prevails?

a Public Inquiry
a Royal Commission
a Parliamentary Commission

Would there be a case for a specific ‘Preparedness and Response to SARS-CoV2 and Covid-19’ Tribunal?

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Basileus
Basileus
5 years ago
Reply to  DeepBlueYonder

It must not be under the control of parliament.

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AngloWelshDragon
AngloWelshDragon
5 years ago
Reply to  DeepBlueYonder

“None of the above”. I very much doubt we will see a true accounting in our lifetime.

Last edited 5 years ago by AngloWelshDragon
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John
John
5 years ago
Reply to  DeepBlueYonder

There needs to be an independent scientific enquiry.
There needs to be an independent healthcare preparedness and response enquiry.
There needs to be an independent policy preparedness and response enquiry.
This should be a Royal Commission overseen by a QC.

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TheClone
TheClone
5 years ago
Reply to  DeepBlueYonder

There will be none! Btw, what are you smoking?

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