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by Will Jones
3 February 2021 4:25 AM

Captain Sir Tom Moore Dies

Captain Sir Tom Moore, the 100 year-old World War II veteran who gained fame last year when he raised almost £33m for NHS charities by walking laps of his garden, died yesterday of pneumonia following a positive Covid test.

Sir Tom appears to have contracted Covid in hospital, after being admitted for non-Covid pneumonia. Yahoo! News has the details.

Captain Sir Tom Moore tested negative for coronavirus after returning from his trip to Barbados, his family have said.

The Second World War veteran died on Tuesday after a short battle with Covid and pneumonia.

Captain Tom and his family flew to Barbados on December 11th shortly before his hometown of Bedford was placed in Tier 3 – a holiday which was criticised by some online commenters.

He remained in Barbados until January 6th when he flew back to the UK and his family revealed on Tuesday that he only tested positive for Covid two weeks after he returned from the Caribbean.

A statement released by his family revealed that he had been tested regularly for COVID-19 between December 9th and January 12th and each test returned negative.

“He was admitted to hospital on January 12th,” the statement read, “Whilst in hospital he received a pneumonia diagnosis. In addition, as with other patients, he was tested regularly for COVID-19.

“On January 22nd, Tom was discharged from hospital back to the family home where he felt most comfortable. Unfortunately he was left still fighting pneumonia and tested positive for COVID-19 that day.

“He remained at home, cared for by family and medical professionals, until he needed additional help with his breathing. He was taken by ambulance to Bedford Hospital on Sunday January 31st.

“Tom was able to have visitors to say goodbye to him at the end of his life. Yesterday evening his daughter Hannah and grandchildren Benjie and Georgia were able to be by his side and his daughter Lucy was able to speak to him on FaceTime.”

A hero of our nation’s darkest hour in the 1940s who became an inspiration to many during a tough year. May he rest in peace.

Stop Press: Some confusion has arisen as to whether Sir Tom had received the first dose of the vaccine. Reports yesterday stated he had not, but videos were circulating on social media of earlier reports saying he had. If any Lockdown Sceptics readers are aware of any reports from the time saying he had been vaccinated please email us here so this mystery can be solved.

Vaccine Update

Safety and efficacy personally guaranteed by President Putin

The Russian vaccine Sputnik V, which no one is quite sure they can trust, has been found to have “91.6% efficacy against COVID-19” and to be “well tolerated in a large cohort”, according to trial results published yesterday in the Lancet. The BBC has more.

Russia’s Sputnik V coronavirus vaccine gives around 92% protection against Covid-19, late stage trial results published in the Lancet reveal.

It has also been deemed to be safe – and offer complete protection against hospitalisation and death.

The vaccine was initially met with some controversy after being rolled out before the final trial data had been released. But scientists said its benefit has now been demonstrated.

It joins the ranks of proven vaccines alongside Pfizer, Oxford/AstraZeneca, Moderna and Janssen.

The Sputnik vaccine works in a similar way to the Oxford/AstraZeneca jab developed in the UK, and the Janssen vaccine developed in Belgium. It uses a cold-type virus, engineered to be harmless, as a carrier to deliver a small fragment of the coronavirus to the body. Safely exposing the body to part of the virus’s genetic code in this way allows it to recognise the threat and learn to fight it off, without risking becoming ill. After being vaccinated, the body starts to produce antibodies specially tailored to the coronavirus. This means the immune system is primed to fight coronavirus when it encounters it for real.

It can be stored at temperatures of between 2 and 8C degrees (a standard fridge is roughly 3-5C degrees) making it easier to transport and store. But unlike other similar vaccines, the Sputnik jab uses two slightly different versions of the vaccine for the first and second dose – given 21 days apart. They both target the coronavirus’s distinctive “spike”, but use different vectors – the neutralised virus that carries the spike to the body. The idea is that using two different formulas boosts the immune system even more than using the same version twice – and may give longer-lasting protection.

Dr Julian Tang, a clinical virologist at the University of Leicester, suggested the rollout of the vaccine in Russia before the trial was complete had now been “justified” by the subsequent results. This seems to misunderstand how safety trials work, in that getting lucky doesn’t mean you were right to take the risk. Tang said:

Despite the earlier misgivings about the way this Russian Sputnik V vaccine was rolled out more widely – ahead of sufficient Phase 3 trial data – this approach has been justified to some extent now. Such pandemic-related vaccine rollout compromises have, to be fair, been adopted in the UK vaccination programme also – with the extended intervals between the first and second doses. So we should be more careful about being overly critical about other countries’ vaccine designs.

In this likening of Britain’s approach to Covid vaccines to Russia’s, Tang seems inadvertently to agree with European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen, who has accused Britain and other quick-off-the-mark countries of compromising on safety and efficacy:

Some countries started to vaccinate a little before Europe, it is true. But they resorted to emergency, 24-hour marketing authorisation procedures. The Commission and the member states agreed not to compromise on the safety and efficacy requirements linked to the authorisation of a vaccine. So, yes, Europe left it later, but it was the right decision. I remind you that a vaccine is the injection of an active biological substance into a healthy body. We are talking about mass vaccination here. It is a gigantic responsibility.

In other developments, there is fresh news on the Oxford vaccine, which appears to be more effective than early results suggested, particularly when doses are given 12 weeks apart. Ross Clark in the Spectator has the update on the ongoing trials.

The study found that after two doses, efficacy increased in line with the gap between those doses. When there were fewer than six weeks between doses efficacy was just 54.9%. But when the two doses were given at or more than 12 weeks apart, efficacy rose to 82.4%. The 54.9% figure does raise the question: does a second dose actually damage the working of the vaccine if given too early? Or could some other factor be at play? Further research will be needed to answer that question. 

No participants in the trial who were given the vaccine were hospitalised, while 15 in the control group suffered hospitalisation. Overall the results are likely to be taken by the Government as justification for its current vaccination regime: giving two doses of the Oxford-AZ vaccine 12 weeks apart. What this study couldn’t tell us, of course, is whether a 12-week gap is equally appropriate for the Pfizer vaccine – for which the manufacturers recommend a three-week gap. Questions will also be raised about mixing the results from trials in the UK and Brazil, given that different variants have been found to be circulating in both countries. On the positive side, if Brazil were ravaged by a vaccine-resistant variant of the virus, it would presumably have shown up in this study.

The study also suggested the vaccine reduces transmission by 67% after the first jab (not really surprising given the rarity of asymptomatic transmission). It means those who have been vaccinated are unlikely to infect those yet to receive the jab, paving the way for the early lifting of restrictions.

A new pre-print study has been published suggesting those who have previously been infected with COVID-19 should only have one dose of the mRNA vaccine, to help it go further. This is because the antibody response from someone previously infected and who has had one vaccine dose turned out to be stronger than the response from someone never infected who has had two doses. Be interesting to see if the Government takes this helpful finding on board.

The Telegraph is reporting that Barchester Healthcare, a leading care home provider, is refusing to hire new staff who decline vaccination, announcing that it “will not hire someone who has refused to have the vaccine on non-medical grounds”. This unwelcome development, which is contrary to the recent Council of Europe Parliamentary Assembly resolution on non-discrimination, may be linked to the news this week that about half of the staff at the UK’s largest care home provider, HC-One, which operates 20,000 beds, have not yet received a Covid vaccine. Some independent homes reported last week that up to 80% of their staff had not received vaccination. There are concerns that this is due to cultural objections and other sources of vaccine hesitancy.

Stop Press: Comedian Josh Berry has produced a very funny video about someone choosing to have the Oxford vaccine for snobbish reasons.

Lockdown States Suffer More Covid Deaths on Average

Source: Worldometers

There were 11 states in the US which refused to lock down this autumn and winter. The doomsday models churned out by SAGE, Imperial College and others predicted that any country, region or state that declined to lockdown would face overrun hospitals and massive death tolls compared to those that did lock down, as the virus, no longer controlled by the restrictions, “ripped” through the population.

Perhaps the authors of such models would care to explain this then. The chart above shows the Covid death toll per million people up to February 1st of the no-lockdown American states in red. If the doomsday models are correct, why don’t the bars for those states clearly stand out from the bars of the lockdown states in blue? Furthermore, why are the top five states for Covid deaths lockdown states?

In fact, the lockdown states on average had 5.6% more deaths than the no-lockdown states (the orange bars). If anything this suggests lockdown made things worse. At any rate there’s no sign it helped.

Positive cases are now sharply in decline in the US, and no less sharply in no-lockdown states than in lockdown states. This means there is no reason to think the gap between lockdown and no-lockdown states will be closed this winter.

Isn’t it time the lockdown proponents put their models to the test in the real world? Time to put up or shut up. Either their models can reproduce the outcomes of real states which don’t lock down, or they can’t and need to be fundamentally revised. No more hiding behind counterfactuals of “it would have happened but for lockdown”. The facts are here and waiting to be explained.

Stop Press: Alexander Fiske-Harrison in the Telegraph points out that “the European countries with the strictest lockdowns have come out no better“.

Update: An earlier version of this story stated that no-lockdown states had 8% more Covid deaths than lockdown states. This was due to a miscalculation that has now been corrected.

Predictions of Hospitals in London Being “Overwhelmed” Fail to Materialise

From Spectator Data Tracker

In the first week of January, hospital admissions in London and the South East were surging and some scary predictions were leaked to the press. It’s worth revisiting them now to see how they aged. Here’s the Mail on January 6th.

London’s hospitals will be overwhelmed by COVID-19 in less than two weeks even in a ‘best’ case scenario, an official briefing reportedly warns.

Medical director at NHS London Vin Diwakar provided the worrying analysis to medical directors of the capital’s hospital trusts over a Zoom call this afternoon.

Even if coronavirus patients grew at the lowest likely rate and capacity is increased – including opening the Nightingale – the NHS would still be short 2,000 general, acute and ICU beds by January 19th, the HSJ reports.

Three scenarios are laid out for both G&A and intensive care – ‘best’, ‘average’ and ‘worse’. These account for the impact of 4% daily growth, 5% growth and 6% growth, respectively. 

In fact, as the above graph shows, far from “4% daily growth” being the “best case scenario”, Covid hospital admissions in London actually peaked that day, January 6th, and then fell sharply. The number of patients in hospital stopped growing five days later.

Yet another prediction from the gloomsters and doomsters that failed to materialise.

However, it is fair to recognise that ICUs are emptying only slowly.

The senior doctor who writes regularly for Lockdown Sceptics has written a comment for us.

ICU’s have been massively expanded by several means:

1. Relaxing nursing ratios from the normal 1:1 to varying degrees – up to 1:6 in some places (though this is really not sustainable). The sole ICU nurse has to manage multiple ventilated patients by supervising non-ICU qualified nurses redeployed from other specialties – usually ones with some overlap such as cardiology/respiratory/anaesthesia/theatre nurses. This is incredibly stressful for the ICU nurse – it’s a very technical job requiring a lot of concentration and attention to detail – trying to run three or four patients at the same time is like spinning plates.

2. Physical space expansion. Mostly the expanded beds are in operating theatres or recovery areas, normal wards converted to ICUs, putting adult patients into paediatric ICU beds, etc. It is only capable of expansion by spreading the available staff very thinly which increases the work stress and reduces the quality of care. In addition, the problems of staff absence and sickness are substantial pressures on rotas. The central London hospitals have generally had sound escalatory plans for ICU expansion in light of the spring experience – the problems have been around staff absences.

My colleagues in London say most patients in mechanical ventilation-capable beds (ICU) are being mechanically ventilated – most patients on CPAP or Venturi face mask aren’t in ICUs in the most pressurised hospitals. It explains why the average age of patients in ICU (roughly 60) is lower than the mortality figures (roughly 80) – because 80 year-olds are not considered for mechanical ventilation, so they don’t get admitted to ICU in the first place.

The ICU (or MV capable beds) figures have been pretty stable for the last couple of weeks despite falling admissions – this is an anticipated problem due to extended length of stays in ICU compared to general wards. It will handicap the ability of hospitals to get back to normal because the run-off in ICU will take weeks to resolve. At the same time the NHS managers will be thrashing their staff to start elective work up again, because this is a politically neuralgic point. This will exacerbate the pressure on the specialist staff – it’s already happening. It’s characteristic of NHS managers who will flog people in order to conceal their own culpability in planning failure and neglect in not taking reasonable anticipatory measures.

The other important point is that the stress is cumulative as staff grind on at this week after week – it’s now becoming a serious problem with people getting burnt out. I’m not surprised about this – entirely predictable. There will be many nurses who will quit ICU after this episode and I don’t blame them. To be frank, I don’t know how some of them have kept it up for so long – its harder than being a doctor in this instance I reckon.

I think the real villains of this whole ‘second wave’ piece are the NHS high command and the senior executives of the London hospitals. It was entirely predictable and they failed to prepare. During the autumn they spent their time pressing the Government for more societal restrictions (which were not needed IMHO) rather than getting their ducks in a row for the winter challenge.

It was known in the spring that the rate limiting step was ICU nursing and medical staff. There was an opportunity for upskilling and preparatory training in the summer which did not happen. They didn’t even bother to do the maths on the oxygen requirement, for goodness sake.

These people are experts at swerving responsibility and I expect they will get away with it again and the politicians and mainstream media will let them.

Postcard from Rwanda

A Lockdown Sceptics reader, a Brit who has lived in Rwanda with his young family since 2017, has written to us a postcard to tell us about how the African country is handling the pandemic. He’s not impressed – and it’s the expats that seem to be clamouring for the most restrictions.

I write this at the beginning of the third week of Rwanda’s second lockdown, some eight months after the first ended. The lockdown only encompasses the capital, Kigali, as the epicentre of the rise in cases, and domestic and international tourism is still open for those wishing to see the rest of this beautiful country. We have to get police permission to leave the house even for food shopping, masks have been mandatory outdoors – and in cars – since the WHO changed their advice, and outdoor exercise is only allowed between 5am and 9am; even then we are only supposed to stay in our Umudugu, a small village within a village (ours is tiny).

The biggest cheerleaders for this latest lockdown were, predictably, the privileged expat community, those least likely to be severely affected by the closure of the Rwanda’s economic centre. Rich (especially so in a context where the average salary for Rwandans is around $50 per month), mainly European and North American people have been a constant source of panic, hysteria and judgement since the very first case of COVID-19 arrived in Rwanda in early March 2020. This is expressed in the groupthink posts on the Expats in Rwanda Facebook group. In their comfortable compounds, with their gardens, their nannies, and ‘house boys’ and their home deliveries of food, they deride the locals for going out on the streets (the public space is where most of Rwandan life takes place), or for their wearing masks with noses out or like scarves around their necks. Emboldened by this moral superiority they rat out shopworkers to their bosses for non-compliance and swan around in their SUVs masks on, like true believers.

There is a little opposition to the received wisdom among some of the expats; those who severely doubt the efficacy or even necessity to lockdown a country where 50% of the population are under 19 and over 65s count for just 3% of the population,1 but they are shouted down or stay quiet. As a business owner (albeit non-operational given the inability to meet with my clients face-to-face for most of the past 10 months) whose clients include these expats, I would damage my sales for questioning the orthodoxy. As such the clamour for closure of schools, mask compliance and fear prevails – in that regard Rwanda does not seem to be much different from the rest of the world.

As for the locals, in the beginning there were rumours that only white people caught the virus, or that it was a rich person’s disease, and even now, for the vast, vast majority there are more important things to worry about – such as obtaining food and not starving – than a disease which few Rwandans have been exposed to: even after 10 months of it circulating around the country, many of the cases have come from the expat community.

The postcard has a permanent place on our right-hand menu.

Well worth reading in full.

Gavin Newsom Recall Effort Nears Target

A Lockdown Sceptics reader stateside has sent us details of a campaign to get rid of lockdown zealot Gavin Newsom, the Governor of California. It is getting close, having reached 1.2 million signatures of the 1.5 million required.

California Governor Gavin Newsom is the subject of a recall campaign. The campaign has until March 17th in order to reach the required number of signatures to force an election. His response to Covid, along with the hypocrisy of him eating out before Christmas is one issue people are citing. Information about the campaign can be found here.

Comedian JP has given his take on it here.

If they gain enough momentum to take out Newsom in a state that is as strongly Democratic as California, that might shift momentum on the lockdown debate.

Round-up

  • “Nicola Sturgeon announces primary schools will return from February 22nd in Scotland – two weeks before England” – For once, Sturgeon is wrong-footing Boris in the right way, according to the Sun
  • “Urgent children’s operations cancelled due to Covid, Royal College of Surgeons warns” – More topsy-turvy priorities that harm children
  • “Coronavirus Mutations Update” – The Swiss Doctor says there’s no evidence of the new variants being more virulent, contagious or producing greater viral load, but there is evidence that they partially evade an immune response from either the vaccine or a previous infection
  • “Oxford’s PRINCIPLE Trial: Bringing Ivermectin Directly into the Developed World in the Battle Against COVID-19” – TrialSite News on the University of Oxford’s new “high-quality trial” for ivermectin. About time
  • “One Case, Total Lockdown: Australia’s Lessons for a Pandemic World” – Damien Cave in the New York Times praises Australia’s Zero Covid model, where a single case has just triggered an instant lockdown for two million people
  • “Alcohol deaths hit record high during Covid pandemic” – The BBC reports that between January and September, 5,460 deaths were registered as caused by alcohol – up 16% (753) on the same months in 2019. And that’s before winter
  • “South Africa’s extermination of the white farmer – in the name of the virus” – Karen Harradine in Conservative Woman castigates the South African Government for its Covid response
  • “The largest experiment ever seen, and we’re all guinea pigs” – Rob Slane in Conservative Woman highlights the disturbing fact that everything about our Covid response, from lockdowns to mRNA vaccines rushed through in double time, is experimental
  • “Politics, Science, Europe and Hope” – The latest episode of the Real Normal Podcast is here
  • “Can ‘surge testing’ get new variants under control?” – Ross Clark in the Spectator argues that ‘surge testing’ in one or two South African-variant hotspots is not going to achieve anything. “Is it really credible that it has managed to find its way to parts of the West Midlands and the Lancashire coast without stopping off at many places in between?”
  • “Vaccinations, variants and lockdowns — when does it all end?” – Michael Curzon in Bournbrook asks some pertinent questions
  • “Lockdown doom loop has plunged our island into existential crisis” – Sherelle Jacobs in the Telegraph ponders the ugly battle within the UK Government between “Closed Britain” doves and “Open Britain” hawks, though frankly neither option as she outlines them sound like freedom
  • “Coronavirus doctor’s diary: We’re getting self-harming 10-year-olds in A&E” – Dr John Wright of Bradford Royal Infirmary writes on the BBC that children are arriving in A&E in greater numbers and at younger ages after self-harming or taking overdoses
  • “Has Covid killed the flu?” – Latest from Unlocked UK, with new presenter Laura Dodsworth speaking to Dr Clare Craig on one of the pandemic’s great mysteries
  • Good Twitter thread from Lockdown Sceptics contributor Prof David Patton on falling infections, hospital admissions and deaths in Sweden in spite of no lockdown to speak of

Update to Sweden.

Positive tests now nearly 60% < peak: a similar drop to that seen in the UK despite many schools in Sweden being open, pubs & restaurants too though with restrictions.

New ICUs down by even more. Deaths below peak too, but as always beware later updating. pic.twitter.com/Z8fCBghfG1

— David Paton (@cricketwyvern) February 2, 2021

Theme Tunes Suggested by Readers

Five today: “Don’t Test Me” by Skylar Stecker, “Spent the Day in Bed” by Morrisey, “Solitude” by Black Sabbath, “Torture Never Stops” by Frank Zappa and “Road to Nowhere” by Talking Heads.

Love in the Time of Covid

We have created some Lockdown Sceptics Forums, including a dating forum called “Love in a Covid Climate” that has attracted a bit of attention. We have a team of moderators in place to remove spam and deal with the trolls, but sometimes it takes a little while so please bear with us. You have to register to use the Forums as well as post comments below the line, but that should just be a one-time thing. Any problems, email Lockdown Sceptics here.

Sharing Stories

Some of you have asked how to link to particular stories on Lockdown Sceptics so you can share it. To do that, click on the headline of a particular story and a link symbol will appear on the right-hand side of the headline. Click on the link and the URL of your page will switch to the URL of that particular story. You can then copy that URL and either email it to your friends or post it on social media. Please do share the stories.

Social Media Accounts

You can follow Lockdown Sceptics on our social media accounts which are updated throughout the day. To follow us on Facebook, click here; to follow us on Twitter, click here; to follow us on Instagram, click here; to follow us on Parler, click here; and to follow us on MeWe, click here.

Woke Gobbledegook

We’ve decided to create a permanent slot down here for woke gobbledegook. Today, schoolteacher Ingrid Seyer-Ochi, writing in the San Francisco Chronicle, turns on Senator Bernie Sanders over his “white privilege” of wearing knitted gloves as he attends Biden’s inauguration.

And there, across all of our news and social media feeds, was Bernie: Bernie memes, Bernie sweatshirts, endless love for Bernie. I puzzled and fumed as an individual as I strove to be my best possible teacher. What did I see? What did I think my students should see? A wealthy, incredibly well-educated and privileged white man, showing up for perhaps the most important ritual of the decade, in a puffy jacket and huge mittens.

I mean in no way to overstate the parallels. Sen. Sanders is no white supremacist insurrectionist. But he manifests privilege, white privilege, male privilege and class privilege, in ways that my students could see and feel.

“When you see privilege, you know it,” I’d told them weeks before. Yet, when they saw Sen. Bernie Sanders manifesting privilege, when seemingly no one else did, I struggled to explain that disparity. I am beyond puzzled as to why so many are loving the images of Bernie and his gloves. Sweet, yes, the gloves, knit by an educator. So “Bernie.”

Not so sweet? The blindness I see, of so many (Bernie included), to the privileges Bernie represents. I don’t know many poor, or working class, or female, or struggling-to-be-taken-seriously folk who would show up at the inauguration of our 46th president dressed like Bernie. Unless those same folk had privilege. Which they don’t.

Stop Press: Watch Helen Pluckrose talking to Konstantin Kisin and Francis Foster about Counterweight, the new organisation she’s set up to help the victims of the Woke inquisition.

Author @HPluckrose

Editor @AreoMagazine

Founder @Counter_Weight_

“Social justice is an attempted cultural revolution”

Hosts@francisjfoster @KonstantinKisin pic.twitter.com/mElM2F6e44

— TRIGGERnometry (@triggerpod) February 2, 2021

“Mask Exempt” Lanyards

We’ve created a one-stop shop down here for people who want to obtain a “Mask Exempt” lanyard/card – because wearing a mask causes them “severe distress”, for instance. You can print out and laminate a fairly standard one for free here and the Government has instructions on how to download an official “Mask Exempt” notice to put on your phone here. And if you feel obliged to wear a mask but want to signal your disapproval of having to do so, you can get a “sexy world” mask with the Swedish flag on it here.

A reader has started a website that contains some useful guidance about how you can claim legal exemption. Another reader has created an Android app which displays “I am exempt from wearing a face mask” on your phone. Only 99p.

If you’re a shop owner and you want to let your customers know you will not be insisting on face masks or asking them what their reasons for exemption are, you can download a friendly sign to stick in your window here.

And here’s an excellent piece about the ineffectiveness of masks by a Roger W. Koops, who has a doctorate in organic chemistry. See also the Swiss Doctor’s thorough review of the scientific evidence here and Prof Carl Heneghan and Dr Tom Jefferson’s Spectator article about the Danish mask study here.

The Great Barrington Declaration

Professor Martin Kulldorff, Professor Sunetra Gupta and Professor Jay Bhattacharya

The Great Barrington Declaration, a petition started by Professor Martin Kulldorff, Professor Sunetra Gupta and Professor Jay Bhattacharya calling for a strategy of “Focused Protection” (protect the elderly and the vulnerable and let everyone else get on with life), was launched in October and the lockdown zealots have been doing their best to discredit it ever since. If you googled it a week after launch, the top hits were three smear pieces from the Guardian, including: “Herd immunity letter signed by fake experts including ‘Dr Johnny Bananas’.” (Freddie Sayers at UnHerd warned us about this the day before it appeared.) On the bright side, Google UK has stopped shadow banning it, so the actual Declaration now tops the search results – and Toby’s Spectator piece about the attempt to suppress it is among the top hits – although discussion of it has been censored by Reddit. The reason the zealots hate it, of course, is that it gives the lie to their claim that “the science” only supports their strategy. These three scientists are every bit as eminent – more eminent – than the pro-lockdown fanatics so expect no let up in the attacks. (Wikipedia has also done a smear job.)

You can find it here. Please sign it. Now over three quarters of a million signatures.

Update: The authors of the GBD have expanded the FAQs to deal with some of the arguments and smears that have been made against their proposal. Worth reading in full.

Update 2: Many of the signatories of the Great Barrington Declaration are involved with new UK anti-lockdown campaign Recovery. Find out more and join here.

Update 3: You can watch Sunetra Gupta set out the case for “Focused Protection” here and Jay Bhattacharya make it here.

Update 4: The three GBD authors plus Prof Carl Heneghan of CEBM have launched a new website collateralglobal.org, “a global repository for research into the collateral effects of the COVID-19 lockdown measures”. Follow Collateral Global on Twitter here. Sign up to the newsletter here.

Judicial Reviews Against the Government

There are now so many legal cases being brought against the Government and its ministers we thought we’d include them all in one place down here.

The Simon Dolan case has now reached the end of the road. The current lead case is the Robin Tilbrook case which challenges whether the Lockdown Regulations are constitutional. You can read about that and contribute here.

Then there’s John’s Campaign which is focused specifically on care homes. Find out more about that here.

There’s the GoodLawProject and Runnymede Trust’s Judicial Review of the Government’s award of lucrative PPE contracts to various private companies. You can find out more about that here and contribute to the crowdfunder here.

Scottish Church leaders from a range of Christian denominations have launched legal action, supported by the Christian Legal Centre against the Scottish Government’s attempt to close churches in Scotland  for the first time since the the Stuart kings in the 17th century. The church leaders emphasised it is a disproportionate step, and one which has serious implications for freedom of religion.”  Further information available here.

There’s the class action lawsuit being brought by Dr Reiner Fuellmich and his team in various countries against “the manufacturers and sellers of the defective product, PCR tests”. Dr Fuellmich explains the lawsuit in this video. Dr Fuellmich has also served cease and desist papers on Professor Christian Drosten, co-author of the Corman-Drosten paper which was the first and WHO-recommended PCR protocol for detection of SARS-CoV-2. That paper, which was pivotal to the roll out of mass PCR testing, was submitted to the journal Eurosurveillance on January 21st and accepted following peer review on January 22nd. The paper has been critically reviewed here by Pieter Borger and colleagues, who have also submitted a retraction request.

And last but not least there was the Free Speech Union‘s challenge to Ofcom over its ‘coronavirus guidance’. A High Court judge refused permission for the FSU’s judicial review on December 9th and the FSU has decided not to appeal the decision because Ofcom has conceded most of the points it was making. Check here for details.

Samaritans

If you are struggling to cope, please call Samaritans for free on 116 123 (UK and ROI), email jo@samaritans.org or visit the Samaritans website to find details of your nearest branch. Samaritans is available round the clock, every single day of the year, providing a safe place for anyone struggling to cope, whoever they are, however they feel, whatever life has done to them.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
4 years ago

I doubt if Captain Tom will be allowed to RIP.
His funeral will become a media circus, perhaps they could use this London Bus to transport the press.

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4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

…or his remains.
Like a grim, mobile shrine.

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bebophaircut
bebophaircut
4 years ago
Reply to  kpaulsmith1463

Actually, his final, heroic act here on Earth was to go to Barbados and have a good time with his famliy. Bravo!

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Lockdown Sceptic
Lockdown Sceptic
4 years ago
Reply to  bebophaircut

TESCO “Leave 2 Kids Outside” Single Mother 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yc77ZYjHRLM

Alex Belfield – THE VOICE OF REASON
231K subscribers
This is breathtaking! 

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Lockdown Sceptic
Lockdown Sceptic
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Katie Hopkins: Beware the media distraction
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPClrAElg9g

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bebophaircut
bebophaircut
4 years ago
Reply to  Lockdown Sceptic

Narcissist.

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bebophaircut
bebophaircut
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Transport all the journalists to Loch Lomond.

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Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago

8 per cent more covid deaths for states that don’t lock down. Say 10000-20000 extra UK deaths when this is over (if we accept official figures). 1m to 2m extra deaths if replicated world wide. (which it won’t be because other countries are apparently less affected).

Now consider the extra deaths that will happen from lockdowns. Wars, starvation, suicides, deaths from depressed immunity (and depression , and stress). I heard a figure somewhere of 130m total eventually. Even if it’s only a tenth of that, that’s quite a few million more than 1-2m. Can we please end this shambles now – and bring on Nuremberg mark II? That’s a lot of people died unnecessarily if the 8 per cent figure is right.

Any experts care to comment?

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Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

And another thing, at Nuremberg mark II, will it be “I was only chasing a profit”, rather than “I was only following orders”?

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iane
iane
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Nah – it will be “I was only chasing a false prophet”.

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Crystal Decanter
Crystal Decanter
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

“I was only following the science”
(see eugenics for that one)

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Rowan
Rowan
4 years ago
Reply to  Crystal Decanter

Said Bill Gates and Boris Johnson.

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AidanR
AidanR
4 years ago
Reply to  Crystal Decanter

Nothing wrong with Eugenics.

Hitler turning it up to 11 on an individual racial group ruined it for everyone.

What we are left with is the opposite: dysgenics, in which the feeble minded, feckless and fraudulent are paid to reproduce using money taken from the earnings of the intelligent and successful who, in turn, often then lack the money to have their own families in a responsible, sustainable manner.

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Elisabeth
Elisabeth
4 years ago
Reply to  AidanR

You hit the nail on the head

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bebophaircut
bebophaircut
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

I was only following a model.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Also consider that most of those desperately ill and elderly people whose lives were ‘saved’ by lockdown measures will be taken next time Covid comes around unless already dead from their underlying conditions

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SallyM
SallyM
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

The “9 per cent more deaths” headline is stupid. There is no visible trend in the data, as the text itself suggests.

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Van Allen
Van Allen
4 years ago
Reply to  SallyM

Somewhat surprising that this site has chosen to highlight this paper since over 20 research papers have previously found no correlation. I suppose that since the lives “saved” have merely been extended slightly and the lives cost is obviously greater (and the QALY lost will be many times greater) the outcome is still the same – the cure is worse than the disease.

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sophie123
sophie123
4 years ago
Reply to  SallyM

I’m fairly sure, if you calculate the p number, you would find that there is no statistically significant difference.
if you were doing a clinical study with these results (and lockdowns as the treatmnet), lockdown would be judged a failure.

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Spikedee1
Spikedee1
4 years ago
Reply to  SallyM

And does not take into account climate, which we know is another factor. If a state like Cali has a high death rate (which it does) with a very mild and warm climate this should count even higher that a very cold state that gets very harsh winters. Again you cannot just look at a load of figures, you need proper context and analysis. Is the ATL so pleased to see something that slightly agrees with our position that you ignore the fact that its utter bollocks?

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Bungle
Bungle
4 years ago
Reply to  Spikedee1

Spot on M8. As usual readers will not notice your brilliance but remember, even if you’re only 1, you must continue the fight!

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Ovis
Ovis
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

That headline, ‘Non lockdown states suffer only 8percent more deaths…’ is bizarre. Is there now a live-in official from the Ministry of Information in the Young household, editing and signing off on every story? Maybe the official lives in the shed.

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BeBopRockSteady
BeBopRockSteady
4 years ago
Reply to  Ovis

It’s a strange one to highlight for sure. As someone else said, it’s poor statistical analysis in general, however they do mention that the 8% could be down to anything other than lockdown, even when the numbers are taken taking into consideration seasonality etc.

They should be much more damming of such studies.

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Dodderydude
Dodderydude
4 years ago
Reply to  BeBopRockSteady

I think ‘experts’ sometimes try to be too clever and fail to see the wood for the trees. I was initially surprised by the headline as it gives the immediate impression that there were higher mortality rates in all non-lockdown states. I knew that wasn’t true.

In the case of this ‘searching’ analysis and comparison of averages the blatant reality is missed completely but is captured by one quick glance at the graph: lockdown made no difference to mortality rates.

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Edward
Edward
4 years ago
Reply to  BeBopRockSteady

Agreed. If lockdown had worked, and its absence had caused significantly more deaths, then the red bars would have been clustered towards the high end. My reading of the graph is that there are multiple factors affecting the the death rates across the states and lockdown is not a particularly significant one.

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bebophaircut
bebophaircut
4 years ago
Reply to  BeBopRockSteady

If that is the case then they should have created a different headline.

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Two-Six
Two-Six
4 years ago
Reply to  Ovis

It’s no ordinary shed. No it is a special shed, more like a 2nd home.
Get ahead, get a shed.

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bebophaircut
bebophaircut
4 years ago
Reply to  Two-Six

A shed like Radio Woodshed?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGwfdLyaUy8

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MiriamW-sometimes-AlanG
MiriamW-sometimes-AlanG
4 years ago
Reply to  Ovis

Maybe Sir ‘Trilateral’ Starmer’s new social media consultant is lodging there. MW

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Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago

He was a riposte to those who say that the old shouldn’t be allowed to vote in referendums, as was Dame Vera Lynn, who was campaigning to the end.

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Fiona Walker
Fiona Walker
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

It’s great that, rather than hiding under the sofa with a mask on clutching sanitiser, he fucked off to Barbados probably knowing it would be the end of him. He chose Life.

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happychappy
happychappy
4 years ago
Reply to  Fiona Walker

Sadly, however, that is a choice denied to the rest of his generation, even if they may desperately wish to follow his example.

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bebophaircut
bebophaircut
4 years ago
Reply to  happychappy

Transfer all the U.K. care homes to Barbados.

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Lockdown Sceptic
Lockdown Sceptic
4 years ago

The Globalist American Empire Declares All-Out War On the American People

https://www.revolver.news/2021/02/the-globalist-american-empire-declares-all-out-war-on-the-american-people/

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European Emergency: Chaotic Wind & Solar Collapses Threaten Entire Europe-Wide Blackout
https://stopthesethings.com/2021/02/02/european-emergency-chaotic-wind-solar-collapses-threaten-entire-europe-wide-blackout

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Drew63
Drew63
4 years ago

You do understand the part that the sainted Captain Moore played in the current imprisonment of the sixty million residents of Britain? Let’s get this straight: The NHS is not a charity. No matter how many pensioners stagger around their back gardens. It is a massive, bureaucratic national health care system, paid for by the taxes levied on the residents and enterprises of this country. If there are shortcomings or deficiencies in the facilities, equipment, medications, or staffing in the NHS, then it is incumbent upon the Government to rectify them. Shortfalls in NS funding and staff levels should not be made by charitable donations from schoolchildren’s pocket money. No matter how kindly made. Captain Moore, intentionally or otherwise, played a key role in perpetuating the delusion that it is the job of the people of Britain to “protect the NHS”. When the reality is the exact opposite: It is the job of the NHS to protect the British people. Tens of millions of people in Britain have been held in lockdown for a year, for a disease that poses pretty much zero risk to them. Millions of children have had their educations halted and delayed. Tens of thousands of… Read more »

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Annie
Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  Drew63

Absolutely right. And Tom Duoe’s antics distracted the zombies from the misery being inflicted on all of us by Wankok snd his thugs, He was a hell-sent opportunity for them.

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CivilianNotCovidian
CivilianNotCovidian
4 years ago
Reply to  Drew63

Absolutely. I find the whole story depressing and nauseating.

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Llamasaurus Rex
Llamasaurus Rex
4 years ago
Reply to  Drew63

Great post.

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Janette
Janette
4 years ago
Reply to  Drew63

Well said Drew63

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
4 years ago
Reply to  Drew63

Sadly I have to agree with you. For all his good intentions, it was hijacked by those who have inflicted lockdowns, social distancing and masks on a cowed populace as well as to further the worship of the Church of the NHS.

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BeBopRockSteady
BeBopRockSteady
4 years ago
Reply to  Drew63

I find it difficult to agree that Tom Moore should have somehow seen through the manipulation. He may have been a stooge but so are many, and it is due to the msm fear machine and the government lies they have enabled. This goes on everyday even without Covid, and if it wasn’t Tom, it would have been someone else.

We live in a state captured by elitist interests. You may share some of those interests but make no mistake, you are not in this club. You are just expected to serve it. Any popular resistance is immediately infiltrated these days and the general public now seem adapted to the signals. Like some kind of Pavlovs dog they jump on those who impart an alternative opinion, they fall into line and throw their salute.

Tom Moore is one of many, and if people of his character were more common and their energy not subtly guided towards serving the interests of the captured state, we might stand a chance. However, I increasingly fear there is no escape. They’ll have their next Tom Moore in place within weeks.

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Rowan
Rowan
4 years ago
Reply to  BeBopRockSteady

Is LS popular resistance?

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J4mes
J4mes
4 years ago
Reply to  BeBopRockSteady

Moore likely had more freedom and happiness in 2020 than the vast majority of the population in this country. How many people can say they enjoyed a holiday to Barbados in the year the UK went full-throttle communist? In the end, he effectively fell on his sword, the thing he was made celebrity for was the thing (they claim) killed him. Don’t mistake my words as being bitter towards Moore, frankly, I couldn’t care less. My Grandad never broadcast to the world his contribution to the 2nd world war, despite him serving in some of the major hotspots. He never wore his countless badges, he wanted to forget it and try to live his life as normal as he could for his last years. And I suspect he would have turned a cold shoulder on someone like Moore for him being a walking/shuffling propaganda figurine. There’s no doubt Moore was used as a character in this soap opera. We have our heroes, and we are the villains – and there’s no restraint from the elite when they cast their scorn on dissenters now. Look at the way they all turned on the young lad who mocked witless – is this… Read more »

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SweetBabyCheeses
SweetBabyCheeses
4 years ago
Reply to  Drew63

I think you’re crediting CTM with wayyyy more influence than he intended. Originally he was only walking to recover from his broken hip! then it was his own daughter sponsoring him £1 per lap – the £100 was going to him not charity!!!

Then they thought about donating to a local charity and unfortunately NHS Charities Together had been in the news. I have no idea why anyone would donate to that charity but I guess that’s the beauty of the free market no? 🤷🏻‍♀️ Some people are crazy about Cats Protection or Shelter or RNLI but it’s their money to give away….

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Mutineer
Mutineer
4 years ago
Reply to  Drew63

I have read that his family get a percentage of the money he raised. It also upsets me that the NHS paid the private sector for its beds (thus preventing anyone from even being able to pay for their cancelled surgery) £400m PER MONTH even though two thirds of the beds were never used. Captain Tom’s money was a drop in the ocean. Something doesn’t sit right with me. Most other elderly were denied hospital beds and even denied medical care and left to die alone in care homes but this isn’t the case for Captain Tom. He was even allowed to have his family there when others can’t even find which ward their loved ones are in.

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Rowan
Rowan
4 years ago
Reply to  Drew63

Sad but true.

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popo says
popo says
4 years ago
Reply to  Drew63

Hear, hear!

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JayBee
JayBee
4 years ago
Reply to  Drew63

Yep. An additional irony is that money is no object anymore with regard to any government spending since March, as it is now being printed upon demand, up until the point where it ceases to buy anything anymore.

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Edward
Edward
4 years ago
Reply to  Drew63

Though I posted above that Sir Tom was a good man, and I stick by that, I have to agree with your analysis. As I said, he was used by the media. There’s nothing wrong with people making voluntary donations to medical charities but the responsibility lies with the government to fund the health service properly and to make the case to the electorate if they believe taxes need to be increased for that purpose.

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bebophaircut
bebophaircut
4 years ago
Reply to  Drew63

That is because Boris and Chris are useless idiots.

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CivilianNotCovidian
CivilianNotCovidian
4 years ago

Getting increasingly disappointed with ATL headlines regurgitating MSM. BBC reports yesterday that children as young as 10 are presenting at A&E after self harming (taking overdoses, attested asphyxiation and cutting themselves) but the lockdown sceptics site leads with the story of a very old man who was brainwashed into thinking the NHS is some charity and not a public service that he paid his taxes to fund all his life! Where’s his tax money AND the money he’s raised?! Why is the Royal College of Surgeons making an urgent announcement about the cancellation of life-saving operations on children?!! (see Telegraph). What about the vaccine deaths?! What about the story in Italy where the family sued the government over mask mandate in schools. (Judge orders government to provide scientific evidence, obvs none provided after 15 days, mask mandate is cancelled!) I love this site, it’s literally saved me sanity through this hideous psychological war. But can the editorial team please take a moment to review its direction. Your BTL readers seem to be more informed about the rapid emergence of the horrific harms of lockdowns. Thanks for all your hard work, regardless. Truly grateful!

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TheClone
TheClone
4 years ago
Reply to  CivilianNotCovidian

For the last few days I’m here only for the BTL comments.

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Hugh_Manity
Hugh_Manity
4 years ago
Reply to  TheClone

Indeed. As you say, the great rescource of this site are now the comments themselves that give what I believe, to be a better reflection of what is actually going on. Can I also recommend the “OffGuardian” website. Unlike here, they do not pull any punches in their articles and like here, the comments are a veritable gold mine of information.

For example, I cam across a video from Channel 4 with Jon Snow and Professor Sir John Bell of SAGE group: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMAkFKprzRQ
Quote “”These vaccines are unlikely to “completely sterilize” a population. Only sterilize 60-70% of the population”
Jon Snow was just about to cut him off at that point.

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sophie123
sophie123
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh_Manity

Presumably he meant sterilise the virus in humans, not actually sterilise humans?!

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Hugh_Manity
Hugh_Manity
4 years ago
Reply to  sophie123

I think it came out exactly as intended. He was probably lulled into a false sense of security by the apparatchik Jon Snow and let his guard down. If I am wrong about that, then it was at least a Freudian slip.

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Rowan
Rowan
4 years ago
Reply to  sophie123

Why would you presume that? Scientists don’t use such terminology.

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popo says
popo says
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh_Manity

Priceless. Where else am I going to discover this type of revealing information?

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Llamasaurus Rex
Llamasaurus Rex
4 years ago
Reply to  TheClone

I agree. ATL is fully cucked recently.

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davews
davews
4 years ago
Reply to  TheClone

And today managed to read the BTL and ATL in a massive five minutes before breakfast. Really nothing to see here now.

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AidanR
AidanR
4 years ago
Reply to  TheClone

Same here… I don’t even read the ATL crap any more.

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BeBopRockSteady
BeBopRockSteady
4 years ago
Reply to  TheClone

Same. Even then its increasingly focused on events such as Tom Moore passing rather than more interesting media

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popo says
popo says
4 years ago
Reply to  TheClone

Remember children to unplug your financial support and cancel your outstanding donations before going to bed! [Oh, and clean your teeth!!]

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FedupofLies
FedupofLies
4 years ago
Reply to  TheClone

Most of the articles on this site are six months out of date. I only come for the comments section.

We need to begin with the fact this is a PLANdemic: The Good Club, Operation Lockstep, The Great Reset = Agenda 21 and 30

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Clancloch
Clancloch
4 years ago
Reply to  CivilianNotCovidian

And on that note why almost no coverage of protests in many European countries!?

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karenovirus
karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Clancloch

Al Jazeera does.

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Bungle
Bungle
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

When abroad, I always watch Al Jazeera. Far more balanced than BBC.

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Jaguarpig
Jaguarpig
4 years ago
Reply to  Clancloch

More useful idiots who’s gives a shit about the Uncle Tom media hoax shit show

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Boris Bullshit
Boris Bullshit
4 years ago
Reply to  Clancloch

With all due respect to Toby I got the impression from the latest London Calling that he was not even aware of them much nor very interested. I am afraid for him its all about getting the ear of the establishment. Grass roots pressure does not seem to interest him at all.

Its all very ironic really…in my younger days I was on the Hard Left and I remember the contempt for ‘extra parliamentary activity’ shown by soft left leaders like Michael Foot and Neil Kinnock. For them it was all about parliament wheras later in life Tony Benn realised the limits of parliament and recognised the need for grass routes action. The Right is now divided in a similar way whereas the Left have completely joined the establishment.

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CivilianNotCovidian
CivilianNotCovidian
4 years ago
Reply to  Boris Bullshit

I made almost this exact point to someone the other day! It was off the back of Charles Walker’s speech. I said, “Isn’t it extraordinary that a Conservative MP has just made a speech that would have had Tony Benn cheering on… I don’t think many people realise that there has been a total (totalitarian), ie authoritarian, takeover. There are 16 Tory MPs who didn’t get the memo (about 5 of whom actually give a shit) who are carrying on with the assumption that we are still living in a liberal democracy. The question, soon, will be… can they actually save us? Or will some brave member of the Opposition (clue is in the name, folks!) lead the charge and end this nightmare?

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Steve-Devon
Steve-Devon
4 years ago
Reply to  CivilianNotCovidian

I suspect the top section of this newsletter is something of a front to allow the whole thing to continue at all, I suspect Toby has come under a lot of pressure and has to be aware of the need to deflect undue attention. Nonetheless under the main headline there has been some good detail on what is happening with the NHS. The ‘so called’ pressure on the NHS has been a major plank of lockdown zealotry and so exposing the paucity of that argument has been useful.
Some of the most vehement replies I have had on twitter have been when I have suggested the NHS is actually doing OK and so it has been useful to have had the backing of the NHS detail from this newsletter.

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CivilianNotCovidian
CivilianNotCovidian
4 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

“To allow this whole thing to continue…” You don’t need permission to host a website in this country!! Or do you?!

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ConstantBees
ConstantBees
4 years ago
Reply to  CivilianNotCovidian

This site is a WordPress blog, I believe. It wouldn’t take a step much further than what we’ve seen already for WordPress to ban the use of their software for “misinformation”. Already seen sites denied use of AWS servers, leading to their disappearance from the internet.

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Crystal Decanter
Crystal Decanter
4 years ago
Reply to  ConstantBees

already starting on Telegram

Protonmail nuked “the Grand Reopening ” email accounts

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FedupofLies
FedupofLies
4 years ago
Reply to  Crystal Decanter

It is literal totalitarianism they are laying the groundwork for . A year ago I would never have believed it. It’s just stage one here.

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popo says
popo says
4 years ago
Reply to  CivilianNotCovidian

Yes, you haven’t needed permission to ask to go to the toilet since Patricia Hewitt, the Employment Secretary under Brown brought that in. Progress is great, isn’t it? Next thing, you’ll have the right ‘to go’ as well as ask about it…

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JayBee
JayBee
4 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

Same for the Torygraph.
At heart they are all primarily nationalistic establishment figures who still want to have a job and career in a year’s time.
Which is why they are now primarily and enthusiastically promoting and celebrating the gene therapy genocide, as long as it’s British made.

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Edward
Edward
4 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

I assume Toby wants to continue his career as a successful journalist with access to the mainstream media, and doesn’t want to jeopardise that by becoming a fringe figure. That’s his choice which I respect. Above the line has become a bit uninspiring but as you say there’s still some good stuff there to help with combating the lockdown zealots.

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
4 years ago
Reply to  CivilianNotCovidian

Well said. Over the last few days, weeks I’ve mostly come here for the comments, news roundup as well as clips.

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Fiona Walker
Fiona Walker
4 years ago
Reply to  Bart Simpson

Then let’s thank Toby for giving us the opportunity to come together to comment.

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
4 years ago
Reply to  Fiona Walker

Agree. That’s the best achievement of this site.

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Fiona Walker
Fiona Walker
4 years ago
Reply to  CivilianNotCovidian

I might be wrong but didn’t the cash go to NHS charities rather than the medical service itself? A subtle but important difference if true.

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SweetBabyCheeses
SweetBabyCheeses
4 years ago
Reply to  Fiona Walker

I just spent like 10 mins on the NHS Charities Together website and its v unclear to me still what they do. If I was donating to charity I’d like to know where it was going. Not donate to an umbrella group of 140 charities.

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Ian Reid
Ian Reid
4 years ago
Reply to  SweetBabyCheeses

Spotted this on my Facebook feed. If genuine, and it seems plausible to me this screenshot gives a clue as to what it’s being used for. Offered without comment.

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Rowan
Rowan
4 years ago
Reply to  SweetBabyCheeses

The £32 million will disappear down the NHS blackhole, one way or another. It would have been better used elsewhere.

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Sceptical Steve
Sceptical Steve
4 years ago
Reply to  Rowan

One area where I think the NHS Charities money goes is into their propaganda machine.

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C S
C S
4 years ago
Reply to  CivilianNotCovidian

Can you please point us to the news about cancellation of mask mandates in Italy? Cant see when searching DuckDuckGo. Thanks

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CivilianNotCovidian
CivilianNotCovidian
4 years ago
Reply to  C S

From a social media account (can’t tell if twitter or Instagram) of @robinmonotti it was a screenshot sent to me

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RichardJames
RichardJames
4 years ago
Reply to  CivilianNotCovidian

Fairly sure his account is on Twitter.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
4 years ago

Attempts to suppress the ‘new variant’ South Africa mutant will be a waste of time because
A. There is no point doing so. If it was truly a new mutant that started killing young people then obviously that would be worrying but it isn’t.
B. It has already failed, apart from the 8 areas already condemned to Total Testing by yesterday afternoon it was reported to be rife in Bristol and Liverpool. It’s already endemic, live with it.

This will not be appearing in Local Live anytime soon.
‘Keen readers may recall that three weeks ago we warned of the deadly Kent Mutant Covid that had arrived in The City and how deadly it might be.
Well the good news is that deaths in the major regional hospital have continued to bump along at 2-1-0 per day.

Total New Cases in the last 7 days = 107 (-46.9% from the previous week)’.

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Spikedee1
Spikedee1
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

This has got bugger all to do with a new variant. The numbers of cases has dropped off the chart. Yesterday there were 12,000 “cases” and the had to test a million people to find them (this is a total of all four pillars). So they desperately need more cases to keep their narrative going. So we know we get a load of false positives so let’s go door to door to bump the number up. If we use track and trace data of people who have tested positive before we are more likely to get a FPR hit.
So why would you answer your door when you have probably already been in solitary because of your last positive test? Why is there no clamour to open up? Hospitals are no longer under pressure, the infection rates according to your numbers are down to pre lockdown levels. Your idiotic R rate is way under 1. So why are we still in lockdown? Where are the open up headlines in the msm?

Please release me, let me go!

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Ed Phillips
Ed Phillips
4 years ago

That picture at the bottom of the page today is soooooo funny!

Ha ha ha! We’re all stuck at home! We can’t go anywhere! Ha ha! Lonely Planet guides to rooms in the house! Brilliant!

SHUT UP.

I know we have to laugh sometimes so we don’t cry but may I remind everyone:

The government has put the whole nation under house arrest, destroyed the economy and wrecked the health of the people…

FOR NO GOOD REASON.

We are surely past the jolly japes period now, aren’t we?

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karenovirus
karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Ed Phillips

One of the things that really pissed me off during lockdown. 1 was Sally Traffic on Radio 2 when for several weeks they reported listeners trials and tribulations as they negotiated their way around their household, tripping on Timmy Lego on the way to the bathroom LOL (not).

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Jaguarpig
Jaguarpig
4 years ago
Reply to  Ed Phillips

You aren’t going to get any rabble rousing from Toby etal they were shitting themself a few weeks ago about calling the zombies bedwetters.

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Annie
Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  Jaguarpig

Only because they didn’t dare to wet themselves.

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Ed Phillips
Ed Phillips
4 years ago
Reply to  Ed Phillips

Oh, thank you so much. I was being so selfish. I had started to think about all the other people suffering through this rather than laughing in an upper middle class way at the whole thing.
I almost confessed that I didn’t love Big Brother and then where would I be?

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Ed Phillips
Ed Phillips
4 years ago
Reply to  Ed Phillips

I think yours might have, actually. 😉

Although reading it through now I can see how it reads more acerbic than sarcastic. Must try harder.

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Dermot McClatchey
Dermot McClatchey
4 years ago
Reply to  Ed Phillips

Hey, keep it up, son- from one smartarse to another. “It takes one to know one (she smiled).”

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Elisabeth
Elisabeth
4 years ago
Reply to  Ed Phillips

OOOOOO BUT IS’S TO KEEP EVERYONE SAAAAAFE
I think I might puke nearly continuously

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RichardJames
RichardJames
4 years ago
Reply to  Elisabeth

Nicely put, Elisabeth, but with lots of love and respect, you forgot the whiney voice and the hand-wringing. You must never forget the hand-wringing.

For myself, I can only visualise the neck-wringing, but there we are.

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Annie
Annie
4 years ago

So nice of the NHS to reward poor old Captain Dupe for his services by giving him the lurgy.

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CivilianNotCovidian
CivilianNotCovidian
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Now THERE is the headline we shoulda got!

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Spikedee1
Spikedee1
4 years ago
Reply to  CivilianNotCovidian

Oh no we are not going to have the full military funeral are we??? Coffin carried by Fat Bastard Morgan and his acolytes. They won’t make it to the end of the drive.

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Llamasaurus Rex
Llamasaurus Rex
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Captain Dupe 👊🏻🤣. You’re on fire this morning.

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Jez Hewitt
Jez Hewitt
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

I believe “irony” is currently awaiting its wokey redefinition to: creaseless, well presented.

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
4 years ago

You’ve lost me with that opening picture! This site is simply becoming a collection of msm articles for lockdown. As if the old codger isn’t plastered over every other propaganda site on the internet, its not like anybody doesn’t know he’s dead. bye

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Tee Ell
Tee Ell
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Yep. Scroll past tabloid crap and directly to comments.

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Hattie
Hattie
4 years ago

I may get hailed down in criticism for the following, but after seeing the full on propaganda in the DM headlines over the gentleman Tom’s demise,I was rather surprised (and disappointed) to see the opening headline here on the same topic. Whilst I am sure he was a delightful man and his family are saddened by his death, I feel if his death was relevant to LS then surely it should have been mainly in the context of how this man has been used ( or rather abused ) as a propaganda tool for the government. His initial money raising, whilst a excellent gesture, raised an extraordinary amount of money in a relatively short period, (any government donations there?)and all lost in the black hole of the NHS, while at the same time promoting the wonderful NHS. The gentleman had been ill for 3 weeks prior to it emerging in the press, a few days before his demise. Now in the DM he is a covid death, multiple articles ad nauseum – diversionary tactics possibly from more information leaking about vaccine deaths, or just to push how deadly the virus is. I would not be surprised if we have posters… Read more »

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jonathan Palmer
jonathan Palmer
4 years ago
Reply to  Hattie

France along with Germany have banned the use of the Oxford vaccine in the over 65s.

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danny
danny
4 years ago
Reply to  jonathan Palmer

Ah yes but according to the DM that is just red tape and jealousy. They look at the UK, at our situation, and say….. we want to be like them. Perhaps we could donate Boris and Sage?

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Dermot McClatchey
Dermot McClatchey
4 years ago
Reply to  danny

That’s what Mrs M said- red tape and jealousy- so I assume that’s the line being peddled by al-Beeb.

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  Hattie

No criticism here dunno what they’re thinking paying homage to lockdowns biggest propaganda patron. He’s not my hero, more like a traitor to his country. 100yrs gives you plenty of time to become wiser, nothing innocent about him he deserves no pity.

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AidanR
AidanR
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

A little harsh to call him a traitor.

He was used no doubt, but I very much doubt the media, government and grating British public asked his consent before they launched him into the stratosphere.

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Dermot McClatchey
Dermot McClatchey
4 years ago
Reply to  AidanR

Indeed; he was a very old man, he belonged to a generation which is now essentially lost, and I’ve no doubt he only thought he was doing good.
(My opinion on the Tom Moore business, FWIW, is exactly the same as Richy’s, which he posted earlier. I wouldn’t add or subtract a word from what he said.)

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Woden
Woden
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

It’s a myth you get wiser as you get older, I should know…

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Steve-Devon
Steve-Devon
4 years ago
Reply to  Hattie

As mentioned below I think the headline articles on this site are there to deflect criticism and try and ensure that those looking to shut this site down will just be bored and go away.

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Annie
Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

So we have to smarm about St Thomas Dupe, because it’s the only way to Stay Safe.
OK, if we must, so long as real sceptic news gets in lower down.

The zombie grief orgy over Captain Dupe reminds me of the Zulu tyrant Chaka in Rider Haggard’s Nada the Lily. Having had his own mother murdered, Chaka plunges Zululand into orgies of compulsory mourning for her. Anybody who Chaka thinks is not wailing loudly enough is slaughtered on the spot. Less slaughter here in the Covid Gulag, but the same basic attitude.

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Dermot McClatchey
Dermot McClatchey
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Chaka Zulu was undoubtedly one of the most evil men who ever lived. He would have fitted in at the Cabinet Office with no problem whatsoever.

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Rowan
Rowan
4 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

It’s one thing wanting to shut down inconvenient websites such as LS, it’s another thing altogether actually doing it.

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Hattie
Hattie
4 years ago
Reply to  Hattie

Also to add, it would be good if LS could submit a FOI request regarding the data on recorded adverse reactions to the vaccine which are currently not available

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Basileus
Basileus
4 years ago
Reply to  Hattie

Yes, I suggested that yesterday.

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jb12
jb12
4 years ago
Reply to  Hattie

This is a vaccine shill site, as I say every time they mention.one of th and people question it. Almost everything ATL is worthless these days, and if we could congregate somewhere else, I wouldn’t be back.

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Mars-in-Aries
Mars-in-Aries
4 years ago

So, Captain Tom tested positive after he came back from hospital – where he almost certainly caught the disease.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Mars-in-Aries

Saint Tom, Covid Martyr.
.

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steve_w
steve_w
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

His last mission. A visit to an NHS hospital. There’s no coming back from that

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Fiona Walker
Fiona Walker
4 years ago
Reply to  steve_w

Most dangerous mission he ever had.

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WasSteph
WasSteph
4 years ago
Reply to  Mars-in-Aries

He returned home still very ill with pneumonia, probably aware it was his last days and wanting to be at home with family. He then tested positive. I would like to know how many tests he had before that, all negative. With the high incidence of false positives it is likely he did not have Covid at all. If he did, the hospital gave it to him.
The MSM will run with a tragic Covid death for all it’s worth, not the inevitable demise of a 100 year old gentleman who picked up another respiratory illness which led to pneumonia as it often does in the elderly. There would have been nothing to see here 12 months ago, just the private mourning of a family for a much loved man.

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Scotty87
Scotty87
4 years ago

On Monday this week, UK column spoke to an NHS whistle-blower who bravely shared sensitive data concerning the Pfizer vaccine. It supposedly shuts down the immune system for up to one week, and this was thought to be behind a very worrying rise in elderly deaths with Covid-19 amongst other things following vaccination.

That’s proper investigative work, informing the public about an incredibly serious development that our complicit media wouldn’t touch with a barge pole. Yet here on LS, we essentially get a round up of vaccine news which I could get from a quick trip to the Mail homepage.

I posted yesterday how grateful I am to Toby and his team, but if this is the future of this site then perhaps it’s time to pass the baton over to somebody more aligned with the BTL community (Delingpole perhaps?)

I do believe that the recent timidity of Lockdown Sceptics will eventually start turning away readers unless this is urgently addressed.

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Hattie
Hattie
4 years ago
Reply to  Scotty87

If doing daily updates is proving too time consuming thus the reason for short cuts ie cut and pasting msm articles, would it be better to do less but with more investigative content, such a three times a week, but leave the comments section open.

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ElizaP
ElizaP
4 years ago
Reply to  Hattie

I’ve certainly also been wondering whether it needs to be “fewer but better” re this newsletter. There is only a certain amount worth putting up and alternate days or once every 3 days (throughout the week) would provide enough chance to report anything/everything that does need reporting and duly analyse it. There’s no point in doing something for the sake of it – ie continuing to keep this newsletter daily (ie when there’s insufficient news to fill it). Obviously a Special edition could be done in the event of anything particularly startling news-wise.

Add that I share another comment above of just why start today’s newsletter off with an article about just one person – and so what that it’s a well-known person. In the event – he is just one person (amongst 70 million or so of us)?

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davews
davews
4 years ago
Reply to  ElizaP

Maybe we should indeed have a two or three times a week ATL update but the comments section should be changed more often – it seems once it gets over around 500 posts it becomes unmanageable which means we need a new comments part twice a day. Or maybe we should be using the proper forums part, but admit that I am one of those who rarely looks at that.

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Bigade
Bigade
4 years ago
Reply to  Scotty87

I noted this point about the post vaccination deaths in a post yesterday and postulated that it gives lockdown sceptics the greatest opportunity to change the narrative if we could find a way to do it. The government have openly said there is nothing to see in regards to this issue. Therefore they have set themselves up for being caught in a lie. If public opinion could be swayed to question the surge in deaths in care homes as being related to vaccines (which they appear to be) then surely this will push the opposition and media to openly start a debate which, if it works well, will expose the government as liars. Then surely if people start to see that Johnson doesn’t actually walk on water and that he and his mob are simply out and out liars trying to cover up a serious issue then with any luck the same public will start to question other parts of the narrative as well.

Or am I just being an idealistic dreamer….?

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Annie
Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  Bigade

What oppositionz?

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Bigade
Bigade
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Yes, youre not wrong there. Its a point I make till I’m blue in the face – where is the opposition? Does no one see this as a major issue, whichever side of the lockdown fence you sit? Apparently not.

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TheClone
TheClone
4 years ago
Reply to  Bigade

Hammond tried as hard as he could to derail brexit – now he is lord. Not to mention scores of others.
What will happen with wancock, bojo, whitty and vallanace? Lordship for each and every one. Yes, you are a dreamer! They will never be responsible at personal level.

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JIGR1969
JIGR1969
4 years ago
Reply to  Bigade

I believe that there is a correlation between vaccines and an increase in deaths, Finland, Gibraltar and the care home in Basingstoke.

I created a topic on the forums asking about the best place to send a FOI to, asking about a count of deaths within 28 days of a vaccine, but was told that there is no need for concern and the uptick for deaths in Gibraltar, are normal!

There are many people commenting in the forums who are trying to silence debate about the safety of Covid19 vaccines.

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WeAllFallDown
WeAllFallDown
4 years ago
Reply to  JIGR1969

I’m heading over there now.

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Dodderydude
Dodderydude
4 years ago
Reply to  JIGR1969

Ironically these same people who are quick to claim that the current increase in deaths is ‘normal’ are the same people who refuse to acknowledge that increases in respiratory illness in the autumn are normal.

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bebophaircut
bebophaircut
4 years ago
Reply to  JIGR1969

Download Richie Allen’s Feb 1 2021 podcast with Dr Vernon Coleman and go to around hour 1 23rd minute.

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steve_w
steve_w
4 years ago
Reply to  Scotty87

if you link to good content in the comments, it often appears ATL the next day. I dont think this site makes Toby money and its a lot of work to do a new newsletter every day

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TJN
TJN
4 years ago
Reply to  Scotty87

I take your point, but perhaps UK Column is a different type of outlet to LS.

As far as I can tell, UKC is quite happy to fly kites (almost like the Private Eye of decades ago) and not be too bothered if they are eventually proved wrong. I saw Monday’s edition – yes, some very interesting (and worrying) hypotheses put forward, but it fell well short of actual science. For example, the claim by the whistleblower that he Pfizer vaccine depresses the immune system for one week – what was his evidence for this? Has anyone else said the same? Is there anything to corroborate it? A loose correlation of some figures isn’t enough to substantiate something like that. (How do you strip out seasonality effects?)

This site – rightly in my view – appears to be striving for scientific and technical credibility (Will Jones in particular is very careful with his science). I’m not saying that UKC are wrong to present information as they do, just that there is room for both approaches – and that a scientifically credible site or outlet will eventually prove more useful to the Sceptic cause than one leaning towards the sensational.

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sophie123
sophie123
4 years ago
Reply to  TJN

Didn’t they show data from the studies that show lymphocyte reduction?

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TJN
TJN
4 years ago
Reply to  sophie123

I don’t recall – but you may well be correct though, as I had the programme on while I was doing something else. I’ll probably listen again this morning. Nevertheless, I’d be surprised if I changed the general drift of what I wrote above based on a second listen.

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TJN
TJN
4 years ago
Reply to  TJN

Just had a second listen – yes, I remember that bit now. They obviously raise some very serious questions, which need answers. But context is everything – we criticise the lockdown propaganda for lacking context, so we mustn’t fall into the same fault.

Re my original comment – yep, UKC go out there on a limb early to get a story, and this site is instinctively more conservative. Both approaches are valid.

But we’re at the point now, I believe, that at the very least this site should be asking questions about vaccine safety, at least the mRNA ones – just questions, to try to ascertain where we are.

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Woden
Woden
4 years ago
Reply to  TJN

Surely if the trial is not completed till Jan 31 2023 no one in their right mind would consent?

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TJN
TJN
4 years ago
Reply to  Woden

Only people who would normally volunteer for such trials, or who thought they were especially at risk from covid.

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Tee Ell
Tee Ell
4 years ago
Reply to  TJN

Spot on.

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Kevin Finnerty
Kevin Finnerty
4 years ago
Reply to  TJN

Agreed.

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jb12
jb12
4 years ago
Reply to  TJN

Yeah, I didn’t think much of the UK Column piece either. It is easy for some to believe the opposite of the MSM just because it is oppositional.

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Mayo
Mayo
4 years ago
Reply to  TJN

For example, the claim by the whistleblower that he Pfizer vaccine depresses the immune system for one week – what was his evidence for this? 

That bit does have some scientific support. This is the table that was showed on UK Column

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2639-4/figures/5

And this is the Nature article from which it came

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2639-4

We need a lot more analysis on the post-vaccination uptick in over 80 deaths before that ‘goes public’ but there is now a fair bit of anecdotal evidence from around the world.

This is a tweet from a Geriatric Consultant in the UK.

Martin Vernon

@runnermandoc

One month into the care home vaccination programme, I am deeply concerned to be seeing covid-19 infection outbreaks among first dose vaccinated residents within, and beyond 21 days of vaccination.

He doesn’t go quite as far as the ‘whistleblower’ but it does suggest everything is not quite as rosy as is being portrayed in the MSM.

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TJN
TJN
4 years ago
Reply to  Mayo

Many thanks Mayo – yes I saw that Martin Vernon tweet. I’ve clarified my views a bit on the UKC programme in response to sophie 123 above.

There are clearly some questions to be asked here – questions, without necessarily assuming answers, and allowing for context – and I think the evidence is sufficient for a scientifically rigorous site such as this to begin asking them.

Questioning vaccines is of course emotive and potentially dangerous territory, but we have to go where evidence points.

Edit: today’s post may indicate the editors are thinking along these lines in regard to the request for information as to whether Captain Tom had been given the vaccine.

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Binra
Binra
4 years ago
Reply to  TJN

I saw a tweet today with a previous daily mail story in which Joan Bakewell some ‘Royals and Captain Tom had all had ‘the Jab’. If something is questionable, not questioning it is to run on lack of sure foundations. A number of things current are unprecedented – one of which is the general cognitive dissonance. Another the redistribution of wealth and control. Perhaps we wont see un unprecedented drop in global population, and genetic control under the guise of biotech security? I live this day well. Thanks for showing your corrected views. UKC is courageous and has its own particular approach that can seem ponderous, with opinions that can be repetitive but can also be amusing in parody. They are not slick (amateur) and not always current to the zeitgeist, but they have shone out in various ways and have my respect and appreciation. I always listen within for the discerning of truth no matter who says what, such as to be vigilant against simply accepting or assuming something to be true, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. However, once something is accepted as fact, it is then built on to become and invested foundation and protected… Read more »

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TJN
TJN
4 years ago
Reply to  Binra

Don’t get me wrong, I have much time for UKC (well I would coming from their neck of the woods …). It’s just that I think they are a very different outlet to LS, with different outlooks, so it’s difficult to compare the two.

But with the MSM sick and dying as it is, we need these types of platforms as seed corn: something has to grow into the vacuum left by the MSM demise.

‘Question everything you’re told’ (SLF, Suspect Device, 1978)

‘Nullius in verba’: Royal Society motto.

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Tee Ell
Tee Ell
4 years ago
Reply to  Scotty87

On the downside, UK column has more false stories or poorly researched claims. I watch it regularly and really appreciate what they’re doing, before anyone gets offended.

Just to pull out one example, they claimed that NHS EasiRead documentation that was aimed at people with mental difficulties was aimed at the public. They used this as an example of treating the public like idiots, when in fact they were being the idiots on that occasion. It was an outright lie and painted completely the wrong picture. There are countless other examples.

So I’m generally quite happy with the balance struck on LS – I check out other sites when I want a different skew on things.

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JaneHarry
JaneHarry
4 years ago
Reply to  Scotty87

then let someone else start their own site. ‘lockdown sceptics’ is too mild – it’s in the name. many of us are way beyond that now, we are outright anti-lockdowners – we don’t want to merely question lockdowns, we want to bring them down, and ensure that they never, never happen again

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Natalie Shay
Natalie Shay
4 years ago
Reply to  Scotty87

We should start planning where to go, why would you think it would get any better? The longer this sh*tshow goes on, the more obvious this is all a pretext is. . . except Toby.
“It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.”

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LMS2
LMS2
4 years ago
Reply to  Scotty87

They will also link to or report on information given to them by their readers.

If you have a link, email it to Toby and co.

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danny
danny
4 years ago

First rule of Soviet propaganda. Find a heroic role model from the ranks of the people that we can identify with. I think from memory in Animal Farm it was old Major.

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Annie
Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  danny

Old Major is Lenin. The stakhanovite is Boxer the horse, who believes all the propaganda, works himself to the point of death, and is sold to the knackers by the pigs, who tell the other animals that Boxer really went to a lovely animal hospital, which had borrowed the knackers’ van in an emergency.
And the animals believe it.

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Llamasaurus Rex
Llamasaurus Rex
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

This reminds me of when I was a young kid…at school we read and analysed 1984, Animal Farm, Brave New World, Lord of the Flies. WTF are the poor drones being brainwashed with these days?

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End of Tether
End of Tether
4 years ago
Reply to  Llamasaurus Rex

My son is studying Animal Farm for GCSE and has read all the books you mention, so not so different now…

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Llamasaurus Rex
Llamasaurus Rex
4 years ago
Reply to  End of Tether

That’s great to hear. The kids i know have got nowhere near them. Maybe they’re just morons or being failed by their schools.

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End of Tether
End of Tether
4 years ago
Reply to  Llamasaurus Rex

Maybe it depends on the school – there seems to be a huge variance in standards between schools – but the texts my kids study and are on the GCSE and A level syllabus are very similar to the ones I studied. And they do read the book/play rather than just watch the film or read a precis.

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Annie
Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  Llamasaurus Rex

Anything about non- white people being oppressed by white people.

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jb12
jb12
4 years ago
Reply to  Llamasaurus Rex

Baa-Baa Rainbow Sheep.

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Puddleglum
Puddleglum
4 years ago
Reply to  Llamasaurus Rex

I believe that these days they watch the film and then analyse passages from the book. Any more is too challenging.

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WasSteph
WasSteph
4 years ago
Reply to  Llamasaurus Rex

We had The Crucible, Henry V and Far From the Madding Crowd. All wonderful. I can’t even remember what my kids studied which may say it all.

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Jo Starlin
Jo Starlin
4 years ago
Reply to  Llamasaurus Rex

My daughter has read Brave New World and 1984 this year for her A Levels (though it was at her own discretion, she picked them for an assignment, they’re not on the curriculum).

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FedupofLies
FedupofLies
4 years ago
Reply to  Jo Starlin

And did she make any connection to what is going on?

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Dodderydude
Dodderydude
4 years ago
Reply to  Llamasaurus Rex

Takes me back to 1974 when I did ‘O’ level English Literature. There were five books on the syllabus and I’d read four and a half! I wasn’t religious but I remember ‘praying’ the night before that there would be a recognisable extract from the ‘half’ book to be critiqued. Anyway, I passed the exam reasonably comfortably but to this day I can vividly recall the cold sweats experienced when I realised it was too late to make up for wasted time.

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Edward
Edward
4 years ago
Reply to  Llamasaurus Rex

My younger brother wasn’t much of a reader, whereas I devoured books. At school he had to “do” The Power and the Glory (Greene) and The Grapes of Wrath (Steinbeck), so I read them and told him what they were about. Later he did quite well in the exam!

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Edward
Edward
4 years ago
Reply to  Edward

We read a bit of Dickens and Hardy, also The Go-Between by LP Hartley. On the modern side I recall being impressed by Collected Short Stories by Alan Sillitoe. In hindsight he’s a bit of a leftie but the urban realism was something new to me which I enjoyed.

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Edward
Edward
4 years ago
Reply to  Edward

Another one my brother had to “do” was To Kill a Mockingbird by Harper Lee. I started it but couldn’t really get into it.

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bebophaircut
bebophaircut
4 years ago
Reply to  Edward

I heard that New York City Board of Education has proclaimed The Great Gatsby and The Scarlet Letter as racist. I read The Scarlet Letter and wrote an essay in high school.

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Waldorf
Waldorf
4 years ago
Reply to  danny

First rule of propaganda in general. For example the 1966 film The Blue Max, set in WW1. Stachel is promoted by the German brass precisely because he is “common as dirt”.

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Steve-Devon
Steve-Devon
4 years ago

The item in today’s newsletter about the care home group who will not take on any staff who refuse the vaccine is disturbing and with a current huge shortage in care home staff I wonder if this will backfire on them? As well as the basic issues surrounding the vaccines themselves it raises the issue as to how will the care home group know if someone has been vaccinated or not? Do we know if people currently being vaccinated get issued with any sort of documentation? I expect many like me many have a yellow health card for International travel where things like Yellow Fever vaccination are recorded and needed for entry to many African countries. But these SARS-Cov2 vaccines are a long way from any standardised vaccination procedure that would be needed for inclusion on an International Yellow Card. So, with this Care Home Group and with Saga Holidays who are insisting on vaccination, how will they know and be able to check on vaccination? Also many of the vaccines have warnings that people with certain conditions should not take them, and so a bit like with medical exemptions for facemasks, how will medical exemptions from being vaccinated be… Read more »

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alw
alw
4 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

Given the care home staff are often paid the minimum wage or little more this will inevitably backfire. Easier to spend your time at home on universal credit.

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Ambwozere
Ambwozere
4 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

From the pictures people keep posting on Facebook happily declaring they’ve had the vaccine they all have a card which gives the details of the batch number of the vaccine for the first and second injection. Presumably once you’ve had both you get to keep the card as a souvenir.

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
4 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

It will backfire for all the reasons you’ve mentioned above plus they will fall foul of anti-discrimination legislation and GDPR.

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SweetBabyCheeses
SweetBabyCheeses
4 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

What about all the women of childbearing age who must make up a huge section of the employees? I’m sure they’re still not supposed to have it?

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Jo
Jo
4 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

If what we are hearing about anecdotally from various countries, that people in care homes are dying after having the vaccine, then it is the staff that will know this. Perhaps this accounts for the relatively low willingness to have the vaccine?
And yes, sounds like it will backfire. Good.

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JanMasarykMunich
JanMasarykMunich
4 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

This from https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2021/02/02/the-great-reset-and-build-back-better.aspx Vaccine passports are one example. Hastily ushered in as a byproduct of the COVID-19 pandemic, they’re expected to become “widely available” during the first half of 2021.14 If the initiative is successful, you’ll likely be required to pull up a vaccine certificate on your phone showing when and where you were vaccinated, along with which type of vaccine, in order to get on a plane or attend an indoor event, such as a concert, for starters. WEF and the Commons Project created the Common Trust Network, which developed the CommonPass app that’s intended to act as a health passport in the near future. The app allows users to upload medical data such as a COVID-19 test result or proof of vaccination, which then generates a QR code that you will show to authorities as your health passport.15 The proposed common framework “for safe border reopening” around the world involves the following:16 Every nation must publish their health screening criteria for entry into the country using a standard format on a common framework Each country must register trusted facilities that conduct COVID-19 lab testing for foreign travel and administer vaccines listed in the CommonPass registry Each country will accept… Read more »

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Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
4 years ago

I really should have known better!!
What started out on MSM soon reverted to type; with CT dying”of”instead of “with”.

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steve_w
steve_w
4 years ago

Talking to a nurse friend of mine last night

The wards here a rife with covid

A new patient comes in – tests negative, gets admitted to the ward, tests positive 3 days later by which time they appear to have spread it to everyone else. It seems to me to be one of the primary functions of the healthcare system – don’t actually spread disease

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steve_w
steve_w
4 years ago
Reply to  steve_w

I am continuing to wonder whether the Pfizer vaccine – which can be rough even for younger people – is making elderly people sick – then they go to hospital and catch covid. Just the side affects of Pfizer causing a great mixing of the elderly and contributing either directly or indirectly to their deaths

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TJS123
TJS123
4 years ago
Reply to  steve_w

We shouldn’t forget that many of these results will be false positives, not actual spreading of disease. And 10,000 divided by the number of hospitals, especially with the largest amount of reported transmission happening in London, means only a handful per hospital.
And also, as masks dont work, a hospital is as likely as any building, shop, or factory with lots of people in it to see more cases than in the open air.

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FerdIII
FerdIII
4 years ago
Reply to  TJS123

Best place to catch something infectious and die is the hospital – especially a socialised disaster like the NHS. Avoid at all costs.

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SweetBabyCheeses
SweetBabyCheeses
4 years ago
Reply to  steve_w

If only we’d built some huge new hospitals that they could’ve put the covid patients in… that’s hindsight hey.

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danny
danny
4 years ago

“Angry member of the public confronts chief medical officer in the street”.
That would be objective media reporting.
“Covidiot attacks Chris Whitty”.
The UK press.

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Van Allen
Van Allen
4 years ago
Reply to  danny

Yes, and I see the 77 brigade got to scoring the comments first on this article in the DM – like they always do with the overnight new articles.

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Bugle
Bugle
4 years ago
Reply to  danny

The dreariness and banality of the mind that coined the word ‘Covidiot’ is beyond expression.

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Tom Blackburn
Tom Blackburn
4 years ago
Reply to  Bugle

It’s lost its meaning as I’d say 99% have broken the rules in some way or other. Every credit to double agent Captain Tom for trolling the most people with his Barbados trip.

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FerdIII
FerdIII
4 years ago
Reply to  Bugle

Those calling us Covidiots are of course the Covidiots – ie unthinking members of the Covid cult inured to logic or science. Huge overlap with the cult of warm-tarding (plant food falling out of climate systems, causes the same + disappearance of the horned frog, increase in prostitution, melting-expanding-static arctic etc etc ).

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JaneHarry
JaneHarry
4 years ago
Reply to  Bugle

yes, there are people who seem to think it’s the height of wit

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JanMasarykMunich
JanMasarykMunich
4 years ago
Reply to  Bugle

I actually seriously wonder whether the term was not coined at the very same time as the term Covid itself, and then spread through social media. It certainly appeared very quickly and very frequently.

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PatrickF
PatrickF
4 years ago

Captain Tom, died of, or with Covid-19?
Where did the money he raise go to in the NHS?
I pay taxes for the NHS. It’s not a charity.

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Tom Blackburn
Tom Blackburn
4 years ago
Reply to  PatrickF

One of the many scandals waiting to arise: the NHS can’t even get basic infection control right and, along with inappropriate DNRs, have caused a significant loss of life.

How do you like those apples, Wanksock?

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karenovirus
karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  PatrickF

During lockdown. 1 I spoke with someone who works in something like ‘NHS United Charitable Unit’.
She assured me that the funds would not be used to boost a CEOs bonus or even buy essential supplies.
The cash went towards things like enhanced staff gardens and rest rooms, purchase of phones to enable patients to keep in touch with loved ones, bringing in hot meals for staff in hospitals not supplied by local restaurants and cafes.

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Annie
Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Absolute essentials, in fact.

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nottingham69
nottingham69
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Plus cash payments to staff. District staff got £20, staff nurses £50, anybody above who knows. The fake news BBC might but they won’t be telling the masses.

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stevie
stevie
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

They have renamed “NHS charities” to “NHS Charities Together” https://www.nhscharitiestogether.co.uk/what-we-do/

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BeBopRockSteady
BeBopRockSteady
4 years ago
Reply to  PatrickF

My local NHS Trust in Northern Ireland had a FB message up thanking Tom for 150,000 they got. The money was for NHS charities, not the NHS per say.

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Van Allen
Van Allen
4 years ago

Yes, there is a very important message here to all of the zealots. The family must feel so relieved that they took him on holiday in December. Life is short. “A man with outward courage dares to die; a man with inner courage dares to live.”Lao Tzu. Those advocating perpetual lockdowns and restrictions have neither.

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JHUNTZ
JHUNTZ
4 years ago
Reply to  Van Allen

The zealots would argue he could have had another six months under lockdown (AKA perpetual misery) if he’d obeyed the RuLeS.

Last edited 4 years ago by JHUNTZ
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LMS2
LMS2
4 years ago
Reply to  JHUNTZ

He could have had another six months if the NHS hadn’t given him CV19

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Boris Bullshit
Boris Bullshit
4 years ago
Reply to  JHUNTZ

Yes we all need those extra years in the care home dont we!

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Elisabeth
Elisabeth
4 years ago
Reply to  Boris Bullshit

That’s what my mom says. She’s nearly 92 and lives at home with home health care services checking her meds twice a day. She says “if I get Covid and die I’ll have saved myself 6 months in a nursing home at the end, No?”

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Bugle
Bugle
4 years ago

Who would you more readily trust, Vladimir Putin or Bill Gates? Mmm… tough one.

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Richy_m_99
Richy_m_99
4 years ago
Reply to  Bugle

Putin, without a doubt. He only wants to control Russia, not replace God.

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JaneHarry
JaneHarry
4 years ago
Reply to  Bugle

I’ve often thought that if I am ever coerced into taking the vaccine, I’d prefer to get Putin’s version: its not this new gene modification technology, which I interpret to mean that it’s intended as a placebo, not a lethal injection – it’s probably just saline solution. I suspect that Putin isn’t on board with the driving agenda, whatever it is, he is as usual playing his own game and pursuing his own ends, by fair means or foul. Problem is of course – I’m not in Russia, I’m in Wancock’s jurisdiction, which I think is pretty much the epicentre of the global coup

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Jez Hewitt
Jez Hewitt
4 years ago
Reply to  JaneHarry

I’ve often thought that if I’m coerced into having a jab with an ill tested concoction I will personally inject all those responsible with a potion of my choosing, or just fresh air for those that don’t like fluorescent purple.

If my kids are in their sights, I will swap the method of delivery for something my local blacksmith can rustle up with strict instructions that a placebo version is not required.

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Bugle
Bugle
4 years ago
Reply to  JaneHarry

Yes, I sometimes think England is leading this. That or some unspeakable US/GB/intelligence cabal.

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Jez Hewitt
Jez Hewitt
4 years ago
Reply to  Bugle

Let them fight it out and sell tickets.

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kpaulsmith1463
kpaulsmith1463
4 years ago

A spot of much-needed levity, via Ryan Long.
(Think J.P., only less gingery.)
https://youtu.be/WQULqur0umo

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Steve Hayes
Steve Hayes
4 years ago

Over half the population of New Delhi have antibodies to the coronavirus, according to a government study. This obviously must mean that an even higher proportion of the population have immunity. https://twitter.com/SatyendarJain?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1356547817427226624%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rt.com%2Fnews%2F514397-new-delhi-coronavirus-india%2F
Yet the health minister announcing the news demands that people continue to observe social distancing rules and the government continues to roll out its (obviously unnecessary) vaccination programme. One might almost think that the motivation is to impose the non-pharmaceutical interventions and the vaccine, regardless of the risk posed by the virus.

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PastImperfect
PastImperfect
4 years ago
Reply to  Steve Hayes

What about the risks posed by the vaccine?

Also:
Dr Vernon Coleman ~ Doctors and Nurses Giving the Covid-19 Vaccine Will Be Tried as War Criminals (bitchute.com)

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PatrickF
PatrickF
4 years ago

What are ATL and BTL?
I’m not up to speed on my acronyms!

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Tee Ell
Tee Ell
4 years ago
Reply to  PatrickF

Anti Triphosphate Legion
Bulging Tree Leg

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
4 years ago
Reply to  PatrickF

ATL – above the line
BTL – below the line

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Tee Ell
Tee Ell
4 years ago
Reply to  PatrickF

Factoid… they’re initialisations not acronyms.

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PatrickF
PatrickF
4 years ago
Reply to  Tee Ell

Fact….not factoid 😉

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Annie
Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  PatrickF

It’s only an acronym if you can pronounce it as a word, e.g. Efta, Bafta.

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WasSteph
WasSteph
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Nonetheless they are generally referred to as TLAs. 😉

Last edited 4 years ago by WasSteph
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b_sceptic
b_sceptic
4 years ago
Reply to  WasSteph

The OED thinks they’re acronyms too. 1st definition in fact.

 1. A group of initial letters used as an abbreviation for a name or expression, each letter or part being pronounced separately; an initialism (such as ATM, TLS).
 2. A word formed from the initial letters of other words or (occasionally) from the initial parts of syllables taken from other words, the whole being pronounced as a single word (such as NATO, RADA).

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FenTyger
FenTyger
4 years ago
Reply to  WasSteph

You can sometimes get FLAs.

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Edward
Edward
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Once upon a time I was a member of the trade union Association of Scientific, Technical, and Managerial Staff, ASTMS, which people pronounced as if it was a word “Astims”. After a merger it became Manufacturing, Science and Finance, MSF, which wasn’t pronounceable as a word.

Last edited 4 years ago by Edward
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AngloWelshDragon
AngloWelshDragon
4 years ago

There will be a time for asking where the money Captain Tom raised for the NHS went at a time when we see cancer treatments stopped, screening programmes suspended, children’s life saving surgery cancelled. There will also be a time to gently make the point that the old boy died with Covid he contracted in an nhs hospital – as have so many others. I for one wish others in his situation had been able to enjoy a last family holiday and have their family present in their final moments. However, I would politely suggest that today is not the day for such comments. Yes the press will turn his death into a mawkish display with echoes of the Princess of Wales but let’s remember that we are here – contrary to the media narrative – because we care about other people more than we care about ourselves unlike so many of the lockdown fanatics. We are concerned about cancer patients, those with chronic pain, the suicidal, the lost livelihoods and educations, the lonely elderly. Captain Tom was a good man trying to do something useful at a time of national and personal dislocation. There may well be better causes… Read more »

Last edited 4 years ago by AngloWelshDragon
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Cecil B
Cecil B
4 years ago
Reply to  AngloWelshDragon

I don’t know, but the local donut factory has taken on extra staff

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Freecumbria
Freecumbria
4 years ago
Reply to  AngloWelshDragon

Spot on. Great post.

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
4 years ago

Very sorry to hear that Captain Tom had died but what did one expect? I seem to recall that in one of his early interviews, he was pretty much resigned to popping his clogs anytime now given his age.

He had a good run for 100 years and that’s not a tragedy.

The REAL tragedy is people in their 10s (plus under), 20s, 30s, 40s, 50s succumbing to illnesses that could have been averted from the word go or mental health issues or even attempting and in many cases succeeding in their attempts at suicide.

So let’s have some perspective here and not allow the good Captain’s death to be a Diana part 2 and become an orgy of grief. If anything we should be grieving at those deaths that have occured because the government sees fit to sacrifice everything else under the altar of Covid.

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AngloWelshDragon
AngloWelshDragon
4 years ago
Reply to  Bart Simpson

My dad is 90 and his death will be very sad for me and our family but it will not be a national tragedy – or even a personal one. Death is part of life’s rich tapestry.

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
4 years ago
Reply to  AngloWelshDragon

Exactly. My grandmother died at the age of 102 and I remember my mum (her youngest daughter) saying it was a life well lived and it was a relief given how frail she was during the last few years of her life.

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PastImperfect
PastImperfect
4 years ago
Reply to  AngloWelshDragon

Generally we should celebrate the deceased’s life.

Mourning is for the family and close friends.

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james007
james007
4 years ago
Reply to  Bart Simpson

My understanding is that he was already very ill when he caught Covid. He probably caught it in hospital (even if Johnson issued a national ‘stay in bed’ order, people will still be catching it in hospital).
It is sad, but it would diminish his memory if it was made into a covid martyr. People must remember that is is not unusual for very old people to become ill and die. More importantly, we cannot make life all about avoiding death. We cannot lock people up for their own good to try to stop it.

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
4 years ago
Reply to  james007

What you said, hear, hear!!!

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Dorian_Hawkmoon
Dorian_Hawkmoon
4 years ago
Reply to  james007

He didn’t ‘catch Covid’. He tested positive for SARS-CoV-2 after a hospital stay three weeks into an illness at home during which he continually tested negative. Covid is a disease caused by the virus, according to our boffins anyway. Another death assigned to Covid that wasn’t. And his vaccination status is still a question. Just saying.

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katz
katz
4 years ago

How does Sir Tom get to spend his last day with his family when everyone else’s family is barred?

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Tee Ell
Tee Ell
4 years ago
Reply to  katz

Because in the place he was in, families can visit for the end of life stage.

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JaneHarry
JaneHarry
4 years ago
Reply to  Tee Ell

and what’s so special about that place, that it is exempt from ‘da rulz’? can my mum go there, when her time comes? – no, thought not

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WasSteph
WasSteph
4 years ago
Reply to  JaneHarry

Some hospitals are facilitating end of life visits. The inconsistency is the problem. We should all be able to visit a very sick close family member. It is a performance because, if you are convinced the positive test equals an infection, then everyone has to get kitted up, regardless of what the patient is actually dying of.

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Janette
Janette
4 years ago
Reply to  katz

Yes that’s what annoys me.

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Ganjan21
Ganjan21
4 years ago
Reply to  katz

I know of a couple of hospitals are calling for family members to come and see their loved one if they are sure they won’t last long.

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Lockdown_Lunacy
Lockdown_Lunacy
4 years ago
Reply to  Ganjan21

Correct. My wife visited her grandfather shortly before he passed away during a short stay in hospital a couple of weeks ago.

I think there might be some inconsistency nationwide.

Last edited 4 years ago by Lockdown_Lunacy
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FenTyger
FenTyger
4 years ago
Reply to  Lockdown_Lunacy

Yeah, that’s why it’s a National Health Service……so you get consistent treatment everywhere. Sorry forgot the “Our”.

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Julian
Julian
4 years ago

Disappointing update today

Predictable headline, Captain Tom is just a distraction

Articles ATL seemingly accepting at face value things like “covid deaths” and “covid hospital admissions” context-free when we all know that those numbers are so distorted and inconsistent as to be worthless

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FerdIII
FerdIII
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

100 yr old man battling pneumonia – which is now renamed covid….died. And no one seems to think it ridiculous that a fake test against a case of pneumonia says covid.

More propaganda for the Covidiots.

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Julian
Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  FerdIII

Possibly more propaganda for the covidiots but also I’m not over keen on anecdotal personal interest stories, in general

When there is not much “new” to report I think the articles above the line ought to focus on re-iterating the basic case against lockdown

I would also like to see some commentary from TY on where he thinks our loony govt are going with the variant nonsense

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FerdIII
FerdIII
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

I totally agree. Or at least present Major Tom and ground control with some scepticism ie age, known pneumonia, fake tests (coin flip). My dad is in his 80s, systems failing. He will die soon. I will predict that they will test him and declare Covid. If he contracts even a mild flu that will be it, but of course the Covidiots will declare it was Covid. All flus are now Covid.

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JaneHarry
JaneHarry
4 years ago
Reply to  FerdIII

same with my mum, and I am already infuriated that the fake word ‘covid’ is gonna go on her death certificate, and I will challenge it if there is any way I can.

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jb12
jb12
4 years ago
Reply to  FerdIII

Also cancer.

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eastender53
eastender53
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

100 year old man dies of pneumonia. That’s it.

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alw
alw
4 years ago

First it was the Russian version of the vaccine and now the Indian version which seems to surpass all.

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Annie
Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  alw

The Indian hope trick.

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WeAllFallDown
WeAllFallDown
4 years ago
Reply to  alw

That shit is tested in Bhopal, man. ☠️

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WeAllFallDown
WeAllFallDown
4 years ago
Reply to  WeAllFallDown

And it still managed to kill someone.

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Steve-Devon
Steve-Devon
4 years ago

Just wondering when they are going to start closing down these miserable pop up testing centres? The number being tested is declining and I expect many of these are routine healthcare/care staff tests and many more will be hospital patients. Once they start closing these test centres it will be quite a strong signal that this nonsense is in decline

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Annie
Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

They’re being replaced by jabberwokeries.

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FerdIII
FerdIII
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Arse swabs – with a pike – centres.

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
4 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

I’ve never seen them busy – all dead and the staff look miserable huddled in the cold and killing time with their mobile phones.

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Edward
Edward
4 years ago
Reply to  Bart Simpson

Or having a smoke.

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Spikedee1
Spikedee1
4 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

Have a look at the numbers tested Steve. They are increasing not going down the only number going down is the infections.

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