AstraZeneca vs South African Variant
The AstraZeneca vaccine has faltered against the South African Variant, with a new study carried out by the University of Oxford and the University of the Witwatersrand finding that it offers only limited protection. The Financial Times has the details.
The Oxford/AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine does not appear to offer protection against mild and moderate disease caused by the viral variant first identified in South Africa, according to a study.
Although none of the more than 2,000 mainly healthy and young patients in the study died or was hospitalised, the findings, which have not yet been peer reviewed, could complicate the race to roll out vaccines as new strains emerge. In both the human trials and tests on the blood of those vaccinated, the jab showed significantly reduced efficacy against the 501Y.V2 viral variant, which is dominant in South Africa, according to the randomised, double-blind study seen by the Financial Times.
“A two-dose regimen of [the vaccine] did not show protection against mild-moderate COVID-19 due to [the South African variant]”, the study says, adding that efficacy against severe COVID-19, hospitalisations and deaths was not yet determined.
Worth reading in full.
The revelation prompted South Africa to suspend its rollout of the Oxford vaccine, as AFP reports
South Africa will suspend the start of its COVID-19 vaccinations with the AstraZeneca jab after a study showed the drug failed to prevent mild and moderate cases of the virus variant that has appeared in the country.
Africa’s hardest-hit nation was due to start its campaign in the coming days with a million doses of the vaccine developed by AstraZeneca and Oxford.
The suspension marks an important setback for the country, but officials said vaccine deliveries from other producers would soon be available and allow the campaign to move forward.
UK Vaccine Minister Nadhim Zahawi has written an article for the Telegraph explaining that the emergence of new variants is a challenge that the country is more than capable of meeting.
Our world-leading genomics capacity has allowed us to identify these different strains when they have appeared in the UK. Where we have seen evidence of the South African variant or other worrying mutations, we have moved to deploy surge testing to try and stop it spreading any further.
It is a timely reminder that currently, even with the vaccine rollout going well, we all need to live by the national restrictions and act as if we might have the virus to stop us spreading it.
AstraZeneca is working on a booster that will provide robust protection against the South African that is due to be ready by the Autumn.
Writing in the same publication, Professor Hugh Pennington provides some perspective.
A vaccine is not an impenetrable barrier in the body through which no virus can pass. It’s more like a superpower, which enables our immune systems to fight better, faster and stronger against an invader.
So the discovery that the Oxford-AstraZeneca (AZ) vaccine for COVID-19 is less effective against some new variants of coronavirus than others is no cause for alarm. It’s to be expected…
News that the AZ jab has ‘limited efficacy’ against mild and moderate disease caused by the South African strain of the virus was treated yesterday in some quarters as a looming disaster.
It is not – and I say this not only as an academic with a lifetime’s experience in viruses and vaccines, but as an 82 year-old man who has had his first AZ injection…
Worth reading in full
Stop Press: Muge Cevik provides a good summary of the study on twitter.
Is ‘No Jab, No Job’ Legal?
Can employers insist that staff get the vaccine? According to the Telegraph, the question is dividing the Government, with some ministers believing that employers who take a ‘no jab, no job’ approach may be protected by Health and Safety legislation.
Employers can insist that all of their staff get vaccinated against Covid under laws governing health and safety at work, ministers believe…
The idea of ‘vaccine passports’ – which would allow employers to insist upon proof of vaccination – have been dismissed by vaccines minister Nadhim Zahawi as “discriminatory” and “not how we do things in the UK “.
However, the Telegraph understands that the issue is at the centre of a row in Cabinet, with some ministers arguing in favour of the scheme.
Whitehall sources believe that companies who adopt a “jab for a job” stance are protected by current health and safety laws which require workers to protect not only themselves, but also colleagues from harm.
One Government source said: “If someone is working in an environment where people haven’t been vaccinated, it becomes a public health risk.
“Health and safety laws say you have to protect other people at work, and when it becomes about protecting other people the argument gets stronger.
“If there is clear evidence that vaccines prevent transmission, the next stage is to make sure more and more people are taking up the vaccine.”
Worth reading in full.
But wouldn’t this be a breach of the right to consent, whereby the law protects people from receiving a medical treatment unless they’ve explicitly consented to it? As set out on NHS website, consent must be:
voluntary – the decision to either consent or not to consent to treatment must be made by the person, and must not be influenced by pressure from medical staff, friends or family
informed – the person must be given all of the information about what the treatment involves, including the benefits and risks, whether there are reasonable alternative treatments, and what will happen if treatment does not go ahead
capacity – the person must be capable of giving consent, which means they understand the information given to them and can use it to make an informed decision.
This strays into employment law, as well as anti-discrimination law, and it would not be a surprise to see a flurry of lawsuits if an employer insists on workers being vaccinated on pain of dismissal. Economia magazine has a viewpoint on the rules as they currently stand.
According to employment law experts, employers cannot insist that employees are vaccinated unless the circumstances are exceptional. For example, employers in the social care sector may be able to give reasonable instruction for employees to be vaccinated as they are working with high-risk, vulnerable people.
Other sectors such as professional services don’t have the same strength of argument for insisting their workers are vaccinated, as lockdown working conditions have demonstrated that work can often be done effectively from home…
“Employers should encourage, and not compel, employees to have vaccinations”, said Rachel Suff, CIPD Employee Relations Adviser…
“Mandatory vaccination may discriminate on the basis of disability, or religious or philosophical belief. If an employer disciplines or dismisses an individual who refuses to be vaccinated, this carries a risk of exposure to an unfair dismissal claim”, added Rachel Suff.
Employers should always take care that their actions do not breach an employee’s human rights and/or lead to claims for discrimination – particularly on grounds of age, religion, belief, disability, or pregnancy – or for breach of employment contracts…
Leanne Francis, Senior Associate at Pinsent Masons, said: “Mandatory vaccinations could also raise privacy implications. They could be interpreted as interfering with Article 8 of ECHR which gives individuals the right to a private life.
“An employer will need to be able to demonstrate that their interference was proportionate in all of the circumstances and this defence is often nuanced and complex. Employers will also be expected to obtain consent for any work-related medical intervention, in the same way that consent is obtained for referrals to occupational health or drugs and alcohol testing.”
Worth reading in full.
Stop Press: See these six Covid vaccination questions for HR in Personnel Today for more info.
Stammering Takes a Hammering
Whether taking part in a Zoom meeting or an online lesson, or trying to talk through a mask, communicating during lockdown is not easy for those with a stammer. Inews has more.
Approximately 8% of children will stammer at some point, but many find that as they get older the condition improves.
However, under COVID-19 restrictions, a mild to moderate stammer can easily become severe due to compulsory mask-wearing, a lack of in person interaction, and the current over-reliance on technology to communicate with others in lockdown…
William Laven, 22, from Surrey is a Stambassador for Action for Stammering Children, and has experienced the challenges of communicating with a speech impediment during lockdown first-hand.
Speaking to i, he said: “I work in a busy London office and at the start of the pandemic obviously we started working from home – normally my stammer is at its best when I am socialising with people, so it was badly affected…
“Luckily I only need to wear a mask once or twice a week when I go to the shop or have to go to fill up fuel, however it can be quite an anxious experience. You don’t realise how often you lip read, especially to someone with a speech impediment.
“When I stammer I have a slight facial gesture which no one can see when I am wearing a mask. I have had people roll their eyes, take me to the wrong place in the supermarkets because they think I am not responding to them, or that I am saying something completely different.”
Likewise, others have found communicating via Zoom – now an everyday necessity – increasingly off-putting and uncomfortable, as best etiquette requires us all to see our own reflection, and for those with a stammer, confront the visual manifestation of their speech impediment.
Worth reading in full.
The iNews report references the work of Action for Stammering Children, a charity that has seen demand for its services increase markedly through the various lockdowns:
Action for Stammering Children Charity report the number of calls to their stammering helpline have increased by 57.6% over lockdown… Since the beginning of lockdown, the Helpline has seen a surge in the number of calls from concerned parents. 250 Helpline calls were taken in the final quarter of 2019/20, just before the lockdown began. However, over the first quarter of 2020/21, therapists responded to 394 calls from worried parents and therapists seeking advice about how best to offer therapy during lockdown. An increase of 57.6% occurred in the April to June period. Parents have been expressing particular concerns over managing their child’s stammering and increasing anxiety.
No Pubs, Bars or Restaurants = No Nookie
According to Reuters, lockdown has led to a sharp fall in the birth rate around Europe. The report starts with the situation in Italy where the situation is particularly pronounced.
Maybe it was the stress. Maybe it was being cooped up with the mother-in-law. But the numbers are in, and one effect of the coronavirus lockdown is now clear: people made fewer babies. A lot fewer babies.
Births in Italy in December – exactly nine months after the country went into Europe’s first lockdown – plunged by a whopping 21.6%, according to figures from a sample of 15 Italian cities released this week by statistics agency ISTAT.
And the impact is far from over. Marriages fell by more than half in the first 10 months of last year, which ISTAT chief Gian Carlo Blangiardo called “a further factor in a probable decline in births in the immediate future…”
Last year, Britain recorded a plunge in imports of baby carriages, to the lowest level since records began in 2000. (Yes, the Treasury counts imports of baby carriages. In tonnes.)
While its data is not yet complete, the German statistics office said 2020 was probably the first year since 2011 that the population did not grow, both because of declining births and because COVID-19 meant fewer people immigrated.
There are signs, though, that in Germany, at least, the trend is reversing.
Still, there are signs some people who put off making babies in 2020 may be getting down to business at last. Sales of pregnancy tests and pregnancy vitamins in Germany jumped in the last few months, according to a poll conducted for pharmacy news service Apotheke Adhoc.
The US has also seen a sharp drop in the birth rate, according to Alice Broster in Forbes.
In June 2020, the Brookings Institute estimated that the U.S. would see between 300,000 to 500,000 fewer births than in 2019…
A reduction in births was exactly the opposite of what many people anticipated would come out of 2020. Spending more time at home with a partner sounds like the perfect recipe for speeding up family planning. However, with increased job insecurity, health anxiety and the Government encouraging people to stay away from hospitals, it’d seem COVID-19 made people reconsider…
“The economic fallout, persistent health concerns, uncertainty about the safety and availability of medical care and the closure of schools all combine to make this a very unappealing time for couples to start or expand their family,” said Emily Smith-Greenaway, an Associate Professor of Sociology and Spatial Sciences at the University of Southern California on HuffPost. “We certainly anticipate there to be a rebound, but we’re not so sure about an overshoot – a boom that helps to offset the bust.”
The pandemic had a profound impact on fertility treatment plans. Many clinics postponed treatment cycles and closed their doors to new patients throughout 2020 in order to prevent the spread of COVID-19. Research published in the Human Reproduction journal used data from almost 10,000 people who had already undergone IVF. Researchers were looking at the impact of delays and the backlog of treatment due to being done once clinics opened. They found that patients across the age brackets, from under 30 to 42, had experienced delays of six to 12 months.
Worth reading in full.
Germany’s Federal Ministry of the Interior Colluded With Scientists to Frighten the Public
There was an interesting story in yesterday’s Welt am Sonntag based on 200 pages of internal correspondence seen by the paper and obtained by lawyers in the course of an ongoing legal dispute involving the Robert Koch Institute.
In March 2020, during the first wave of the pandemic, the Federal Ministry of the Interior Ministry enlisted scientists from multiple research institutes and universities for political purposes. It commissioned researchers from the Robert Koch Institute and other institutions to create a model, upon which basis the Minister of the Interior Horst Seehofer (CSU) wanted to justify tough Corona measures.
This has emerged from more than 200 pages of internal correspondence between the management of the Ministry and the researchers which is available to the Welt Am Sonntag…
In an email exchange, Markus Kerber, Permanent Secretary in the Ministry of the Interior, asks a researcher to prepare a model upon the basis of which “measures of a preventative and repressive nature” could be planned.
According to the correspondence, the scientists, in close coordination with the Ministry, compiled the contents for a secret paper in just four days. It was then released over various media in the days that followed.
The paper included a “worst case scenario” according to which more than one million people could die from coronavirus in Germany, if social life were to continue as before the pandemic.
Worth reading in full.
Miracle in Singapore
The Republic of Singapore has not suffered in the way that most other countries have from COVID-19, with fewer than 60,000 cases and 30 deaths. How did the city state do it? Was it the modest lockdown, or was it something else? It remains a bit of a mystery, but Stuart Derbyshire, an Associate Professor of Psychology at the National University of Singapore, has put forward a couple of ideas in Spiked. First, however, he dismisses a couple of other explanations.
Singapore is a major travel hub and welcomes close to 20 million overseas visitors every year. Between October 2019 and March 2020, close to 7.5 million visitors entered Singapore from overseas, with roughly 20% of them coming from mainland China. Singapore did not close its border to tourists until March 24th, one week after Rome closed its main terminal… Tight border control cannot explain Singapore’s extreme outlier status.
Singapore is also densely populated; people live and socialise in close proximity. Few people cook at home because eating out is so cheap, and the weather is conducive to being outdoors… The national lockdown, known here as a circuit breaker, did not come into effect until April 7th, almost a month after Italy, and about two weeks after New York City and the UK. A widespread tendency to distance or an early lockdown cannot explain Singapore’s extreme outlier status.
It is far more likely, he reckons, that the low death toll is due to an effective track and trace system and the swift and decisive action taken in care homes.
Around 12,000 Singaporean citizens live in care homes, compared with around 418,000 UK citizens. That equates to about 0.3% of Singapore’s population (citizens only) and about 0.6% of the UK’s. Outbreaks of Covid in care homes in the UK and elsewhere have had a devastating impact, but that has clearly been avoided in Singapore.
Indeed, shortly after the first case of Covid was detected in a care home on March 31st, Singapore’s Ministry of Health moved around 3,000 nursing home employees into hotels to isolate them from the wider community, and tested all 9,000 nursing-home staff. Positive tests were followed by contact tracing and quarantine. Those measures were in addition to a month-long ban on visitation, safe-distancing in all homes, and zoning. Singapore has reported only three Covid-related care-home deaths, compared with estimates of 25,000 Covid-related deaths in the UK.
Worth reading in full.
Round-up
- “The lockdown debate – a further reply to Toby Young” – Christopher Snowdon replies to yesterday’s post from Toby in their ongoing debate
- “PSNI miss three deadlines to justify Covid regulations power of entry claim” – The PSNI have missed three proposed dates to respond to a legal challenge over whether officers have the power to enter private homes to enforce Covid rules, reports the Belfast Telegraph. Stormont’s Department of Health has also not explained how the regulations give police this power
- “Vision problems arise in young school kids in COVID-19 quarantine” – The University of Minnesota’s Centre for Infectious Disease Research and Policy report on yet another unintended side-effect of COVID-19 restrictions
- “The poisonous, empathy-free lockdown debate shames our national discourse” – A gentlemanly piece from Dan Hannan in the Sunday Telegraph decrying the ‘gotcha’ mentality of most participants in the lockdown debate
- “Forget individual vaccine passports, our country needs a collective one” – Ross Clark argues in the Telegraph that every British citizen should automatically be given a vaccine passport once a certain percentage of the population has been vaccinated
- “Will young people ever work again?” – Recent graduates are facing an uncertain future says Maria Albano in Unherd
- “Why greens love lockdown” – Some see lockdowns as the beginning of a bright new era of global environmental consciousness and good international governance writes Ben Pile in Spiked
- “Hold Hands, Show Face, Give Grace” – A new website set up by a Lockdown Sceptics Reader who has autism. It calls for a swift return to the old normal
- “Downfall, the Covid version” – The Conservative Woman features Ivor Cummins’s Downfall parody, a response to the one taking the Mickey out of him written by Christopher Snowdon
- “As COVID-19 vaccines raise hope, cold reality dawns that illness Is likely here to stay” – A dose of realism from the Wall Street Journal; new variants and the limits of vaccination programs mean that COVID-19 will be around for years
- “Masking America’s greatest natural monuments” – The National Park Service (NPS) has mandated wearing face masks on all National Park Service lands. It will spur endless, pointless arguments says James Bovard on the AIER blog
- “Federal Government delays plan to forcibly confine travellers after public backlash” – Good news for Canada, as the federal government delays its plan to charge travellers $2,000 for forced hotel quarantine. Credit for this U-turn goes to the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms and the Justice Centre for Constitutional Freedom
- “The results are in: Lockdowns don’t work” – Listen to Sharyl Atkinson talking to Professor Jay Bhattacharya about the data that proves lockdowns don’t work
- “Defeating life threatening COVID-19” – A powerful video showing a patient’s recovery from COVID-19 after receiving ivermectin in the United Memorial Medical Centre in Houston
- “Lockdowns are unlawful and should never be attempted” – A twitter thread from Abir Ballan, a member of Panda, considering whether lockdown would be justified in the event of a pandemic with a far higher fatality rate.
- Police in Greater Manchester assault a coffee shop owner in the most alarming instance of over-zealous enforcement of lockdown rules so far
Theme Tunes Suggested by Readers
Four today: “Seven Year Ache” by Rosanne Cash, “I Want to Break Free” by Queen, “One in Ten” by UB40 and “Tell Ms It’s Not True” by Barbara Dickson.
Stop Press: A public-spirited reader has created a Spotify playlist of all the theme tunes nominated in this slot (at least, for those that are available on Spotify). It is presently 511 songs and clocks in at 33 hours. If you’re on Spotify, just search for “Lockdown Hits”.
Love in the Time of Covid
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Woke Gobbledegook
We’ve decided to create a permanent slot down here for woke gobbledegook. Today, from MailOnline, we bring you broadcaster Andrew Neil’s battle against the woke warriors who are trying to blow up GB News on the launch pad.
Andrew Neil today slammed “woke warriors” for trying to cancel his new GB News channel before it even starts.
The former BBC presenter laid into activists after they launched a sabotage campaign against his soon-to-be-launched TV channel.
Twitter activists are urging firms not to advertise with the new station under the hashtag “Don’tFundGBNews”, because they fear the channel will be “like America’s Fox News” – a comparison bosses have rejected.
And those backing the campaign, including equality campaigner Femi Oluwole, have threatened to cancel their phone contracts if companies such as EE and Vodafone pay for advertising spaces on the channel.
But Mr Neil, who is the chairman of GB News, today hit out at those behind the campaign…
In a tweet he said: “The woke warriors trying to stir up an advertising boycott of GB News, a channel that hasn’t even started broadcasting, are hilarious.
“Even funnier is their threat to cancel mobile phone contracts of operators who dare to advertise on GB News.
“I mean have they ever tried to cancel a mobile contract?! But GB News will be ready to help. We will campaign for easier cancellation.”
The row erupted last night when campaign group Stop Funding Hate – previously criticised as a “hard-left censorship group” – urged people to join the hashtag Don’tFundGBNews.
The group, founded by a former Amnesty International worker, said on Twitter: “If you want to help stop ‘Fox News style’ TV in Britain: Tweet your mobile phone company using the hashtag #DontFundGBNews.
“Urge them not to advertise with GB News or any ‘Fox News style’ channel, & explain why this matters to you.”
GB News officials have repeatedly hit back at the Fox News comparison, with some media experts expecting the channel to be “right-leaning” rather than right wing.
The hashtag was backed by LBC Presenter Natasha Devon, who threatened to quit Vodafone, as well as Mr Oluwole, a political activist and co-founder of the pro-European Union advocacy group Our Future Our Choice, who threatened to quit EE if its advertises with GB News.
He said: “Hi EE, I was on Orange since I started using mobile phones and switched to you almost as soon as you took them over.
“But I will switch service provider immediately if I hear of one EE advert placed on that channel. #DontFundGBNews.”
But while the Tweet received support from some, many quickly criticised his backing of the campaign, saying it amounted to “mass censorship”.
Worth reading in full.
Stop Press: The Minneapolis Star Tribune is warning Minnesotan parents that they may be about to see a “woke revolution” at their child’s school, thanks to new standards set by the local Department of Education.
By 2022, as your first-grader is learning that two plus two is four, the Minnesota Department of Education intends to mandate that she also learn to recognise “stereotypes”, “biased speech”, and “injustice at the institutional or systemic level”.
Your middle schooler will be drilled in how his identity is a function of his skin colour.
Your high schooler will be required to explain how Europeans invented “whiteness” and that America’s 19th-century westward expansion was the shameful product of “whiteness, Christianity and capitalism”.
Stop Press 2: John McWhorter has written a blog post examining the N-word as slur vs. the N-word as a sequence of sounds. He focuses on the case of Donald McNeil, who recently lost his job at the New York Times when he used the N-word to describe an insult, rather than using it to insult anyone.
“Mask Exempt” Lanyards
We’ve created a one-stop shop down here for people who want to obtain a “Mask Exempt” lanyard/card – because wearing a mask causes them “severe distress”, for instance. You can print out and laminate a fairly standard one for free here and the Government has instructions on how to download an official “Mask Exempt” notice to put on your phone here. And if you feel obliged to wear a mask but want to signal your disapproval of having to do so, you can get a “sexy world” mask with the Swedish flag on it here.
A reader has started a website that contains some useful guidance about how you can claim legal exemption. Another reader has created an Android app which displays “I am exempt from wearing a face mask” on your phone. Only 99p.
If you’re a shop owner and you want to let your customers know you will not be insisting on face masks or asking them what their reasons for exemption are, you can download a friendly sign to stick in your window here.
And here’s an excellent piece about the ineffectiveness of masks by a Roger W. Koops, who has a doctorate in organic chemistry. See also the Swiss Doctor’s thorough review of the scientific evidence here and Prof Carl Heneghan and Dr Tom Jefferson’s Spectator article about the Danish mask study here.
Stop Press: There can, apparently, be such a thing as too masked up. In a happy twist of event, airlines have now been kicking passengers off the flight for wearing too much protection, according to Travelpulse.
United Airlines removed a New Jersey man and his brother from a recent flight leaving Newark Liberty International Airport when they boarded a plane wearing a Narwall Mask. Unlike an N95 mask or a cloth face covering, the Narwall Mask is a full face shield that filters air in and out using a design inspired by scuba diving gear.
Problem: United doesn’t accept that kind of personal protection, saying it was not in compliance with their mask policy, and Rob Joseph and his brother were kicked off the flight before it left…
The brothers were asked to replace their Narwall masks with cloth coverings. They declined, and United did not allow them to fly.
The Great Barrington Declaration
The Great Barrington Declaration, a petition started by Professor Martin Kulldorff, Professor Sunetra Gupta and Professor Jay Bhattacharya calling for a strategy of “Focused Protection” (protect the elderly and the vulnerable and let everyone else get on with life), was launched in October and the lockdown zealots have been doing their best to discredit it ever since. If you googled it a week after launch, the top hits were three smear pieces from the Guardian, including: “Herd immunity letter signed by fake experts including ‘Dr Johnny Bananas’.” (Freddie Sayers at UnHerd warned us about this the day before it appeared.) On the bright side, Google UK has stopped shadow banning it, so the actual Declaration now tops the search results – and Toby’s Spectator piece about the attempt to suppress it is among the top hits – although discussion of it has been censored by Reddit. The reason the zealots hate it, of course, is that it gives the lie to their claim that “the science” only supports their strategy. These three scientists are every bit as eminent – more eminent – than the pro-lockdown fanatics so expect no let up in the attacks. (Wikipedia has also done a smear job.)
You can find it here. Please sign it. Now over three quarters of a million signatures.
Update: The authors of the GBD have expanded the FAQs to deal with some of the arguments and smears that have been made against their proposal. Worth reading in full.
Update 2: Many of the signatories of the Great Barrington Declaration are involved with new UK anti-lockdown campaign Recovery. Find out more and join here.
Update 3: You can watch Sunetra Gupta set out the case for “Focused Protection” here and Jay Bhattacharya make it here.
Update 4: The three GBD authors plus Prof Carl Heneghan of CEBM have launched a new website collateralglobal.org, “a global repository for research into the collateral effects of the COVID-19 lockdown measures”. Follow Collateral Global on Twitter here. Sign up to the newsletter here.
Judicial Reviews Against the Government
There are now so many legal cases being brought against the Government and its ministers we thought we’d include them all in one place down here.
The Simon Dolan case has now reached the end of the road. The current lead case is the Robin Tilbrook case which challenges whether the Lockdown Regulations are constitutional. You can read about that and contribute here.
Then there’s John’s Campaign which is focused specifically on care homes. Find out more about that here.
There’s the GoodLawProject and Runnymede Trust’s Judicial Review of the Government’s award of lucrative PPE contracts to various private companies. You can find out more about that here and contribute to the crowdfunder here.
Scottish Church leaders from a range of Christian denominations have launched legal action, supported by the Christian Legal Centre against the Scottish Government’s attempt to close churches in Scotland for the first time since the the Stuart kings in the 17th century. The church leaders emphasised it is a disproportionate step, and one which has serious implications for freedom of religion.” Further information available here.
There’s the class action lawsuit being brought by Dr Reiner Fuellmich and his team in various countries against “the manufacturers and sellers of the defective product, PCR tests”. Dr Fuellmich explains the lawsuit in this video. Dr Fuellmich has also served cease and desist papers on Professor Christian Drosten, co-author of the Corman-Drosten paper which was the first and WHO-recommended PCR protocol for detection of SARS-CoV-2. That paper, which was pivotal to the roll out of mass PCR testing, was submitted to the journal Eurosurveillance on January 21st and accepted following peer review on January 22nd. The paper has been critically reviewed here by Pieter Borger and colleagues, who also submitted a retraction request, which was rejected in February. UPDATE: The retraction request has been rejected.
And last but not least there was the Free Speech Union‘s challenge to Ofcom over its ‘coronavirus guidance’. A High Court judge refused permission for the FSU’s judicial review on December 9th and the FSU has decided not to appeal the decision because Ofcom has conceded most of the points it was making. Check here for details.
Samaritans
If you are struggling to cope, please call Samaritans for free on 116 123 (UK and ROI), email jo@samaritans.org or visit the Samaritans website to find details of your nearest branch. Samaritans is available round the clock, every single day of the year, providing a safe place for anyone struggling to cope, whoever they are, however they feel, whatever life has done to them.
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And Finally…
Chase Dreams, a lockdown anthem by the new band Dreamdrive, documents the experience of life in Melbourne, Australia in the year 2020. It’s not pretty.
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Two days in a row.
Sad 😀
VIDEO Italian MP Sara Cunial Speech On Bill Gates Insider Paper
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wx6KlEmnQxY&t=0s
Yes, bang to rights.
Amazing speech
The best bit is when the chairman reasserts the lady’s right to continue when others start shouting her down, reminding them free speech is allowed in parliament.
Italians – capable of the best (this) and the worst (the first country to copy China-style lockdowns).
Beautiful.
One more day and you will qualify for the star prize: a free cocktail of snake oils.
You need to get out more……. Ooooops your not allowed are you
I was going to say get a life, but of course we arent allowed to by governemnt diktat.
Bosses CAN legally demand that staff get vaccinated against Covid under health and safety laws, ministers say It won’t end with just the covid vaccine, it’ll open the flood gates.
Ministers can say what they like. DM can say what it likes. This is ILLEGAL and it breaks HUMAN RIGHTS LAWS. If someone is coerced into taking medical intervention they don’t want, that company is going to be in DEEP SHIT!
Lets hope you’re right, but I have a horrible feeling about that.
Collectively if we say no there is not much they can do about it.
Yes.The first judge to rule that a person can be deprived of his/her livelihood for exercising his/her human right to decline a medical procedure will be toast. If British judges are cowardly enough to be toast, it’s up to the European court.No surrender on this one.
Absolutely! It’s a red line issue.
I think perhaps you don’t understand: society is moving towards Hard Fascism where you will have no rights.
And would be in breach of the Nurenburg Code.
Are you a lawyer or do you have a law qualification?
Fortunately any civilian is allowed to know the law in their own democratic country. You don’t need to be a lawyer or have law qualifications. This kind of information is in the public domain. I’m sorry if it’s not where you live.
A particularly boneheaded response.
The law is an extremely complicated beast, A lay reading can easily come to the exact opposite conclusion to that demonstrated in case law.
Okay. Stay scared.
I’m pretty sure the worthless globalist filth isn’t the slightest bit concerned whether something is legal or not
No jab,no job?
If and when the Government implements that “policy” throughout the public sector, including especially the NHS where I understand there’s still some resistance, then I might be more concerned.
Still, it’s a sign of the rampant and ramped up fear in society.
This is already happening in some sectors of government. Workers are being told that they cannot come into work unless they have the jab. They are also receiving it at work. The union has been fighting it to no avail
Then the Unions will have to try harder!
The Unions will be bought. It is so much easier than fighting them.
My union is pushing face masks and the jab, egged on by its unhinged members.
might have some difficulty when they encounter resistance aka “cultural differences”
Rules only need to apply to white people while we’re still 83% of the population.
Never refuse a vaccine
make it conditional on your employer/GP signing a liability letter (hint – they wont)
https://freedomtaker.com/
Totalitarianism by the back door. Once they get away with that what next?
They can’t legally do this. You can’t require anyone to take an experimental medical treatment that is still undergoing trials that is contrary to various Human Rights Laws and Codes and one which is actually harming people. There are plenty of instances of this now. And despite what they are putting out which is clearly intentional, there is not as yet any clear evidence that it prevents transmission. Indeed there are many who are coming down with this virus shortly after vaccination. There are also issues with disability discrimination if a person cannot have a vaccine and there is also unfair dismissal if you have been employed for 2 years. They are putting this out to push people to rush for the jab and no doubt some will. It will need testing in Employment Tribunals but I would be surprised if they don’t find in favour of the employee or potential employee.
Are you a lawyer then?
The problem is, they can classify the virus whatever way they need to in order to skirt around any definition that says ‘experimental’.
For all practical purposes, the fact is they can do WTF they want, and no amount of bloviating on internet forums about human rights will stop them.
No they can’t. Not while the rule of law still stands, and law requires definition that they can’t skirt around. If rule of law becomes irrelevant then it becomes survival of the fittest and we might as well all get out there with our pick axe handles and baseball bats. The courts have already thrown out loads of inappropriate FPNs.
Have you not seen enough evidence in videos on social media etc that the rule of law does not – in practice – apply anymore, unless you want to spend years pursuing it while making a lawyer very rich and you very poor?
Coppers are abusing their power. Shops are gold-plating their covid policies. Saga are advertising vaxxed-only holidays.
Is anyone stopping them? No, they are not.
You can get all outraged and say ‘THEY CAN’T DO THAT’ – but they can. They have, The video of it is right there.
Is it wrong? Yes. Does that change the facts on the ground? No.
Ever heard of propaganda? A lot of this stuff doing the rounds is hyped up, to keep the masses fearful that they have no rights or power. This is what they want you to believe.
No Aidan, you are very confused. They can’t do “what they want”. You have legal rights. Don’t let them scare you.
How condescending.
Sure, we have legal rights… It takes a uniformed yob 2 seconds to disregard those rights, and many years and thousands of pounds for you to challenge it in court – and even then it’s a lottery, especially in light of the Covid legislation, which summarily puts a great many of our established rights in the wood-chipper.
By the time you get satisfaction, you’ve wished away years of your life and all of your money, and the thing you were so concerned about is ancient history.
If you think this reality isn’t true, I don’t know what to tell you.
You’ll be telling me next we should all become freeman on the land.
As a registered nurse I have been required to show that I have either had measles and rubella or have been vaccinated against them. My TB vaccination scar was checked. Hepatitis B was also required. These are to protect me.
The influenza vaccine is not mandated only very strongly advised.
Why is SARS-CoV-2 different?
30% of cases of flu are asymptomatic, but there’s no presumption of infectiousness.
Exactly that was the old normal, but once covid vaccines become a required ‘qualification‘ so will every other vaccine.
I don’t hold out much hope for the judiciary or tribunals defending employees! I hope i’m wrong, but of course the only winners will be lawyers.
Its going to be interesting to see unions response to this, they were all for this kind of protection before.
Yes it seems that unions, who used to be all in favour of protecting their members are now characterizing their vaccine and mask mania as protecting their employees. I feel this is in response to their ill informed members who are baying for vaccination and masks. I believe this to be the case with my union anyway.
I think this is exactly where most people are. A vaccine for unique diseases is one thing, so-called vaccines against ever-mutating seasonal viruses that MOST PEOPLE need to get in order to strengthen their immunity is mad!
I suggest you read “Dissolving Illusions” by Humphries and Bystriacyk
I have it. Very interesting read!
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I’m a Registered Nurse nobody has ever checked my Vaccination history or even give a shit about it.That includes 27 years as an NHS Nurse.Me thinks your chatting shit.
I was a dentist for 35 years and all my staff with pt contact were required by the NHS to be vaccinated for TB,Hep B , varicella, rubella etc etc and when we had inspections including by CQC had to provide evidence. So the other nurse was not incorrect. Indeed medical and dental students must have Hep B vax and show proof of antibodies before commencing studies.
Hep B in combo with tdap made me very sick. In the aftermath of which I gained enormous amounts of weight. I wonder if one of the reason there are so many obese abs morbidly obese people is vaccines attacking their liver and insulin receptors?
My wife had to have the MMR vaccine before starting her nursing training. So it’s certainly not ‘chatting shit’.
Hep B in combo with tdap made me very sick. In the aftermath of which I gained enormous amounts of weight. I wonder if one of the reason there are so many obese abs morbidly obese people is vaccines attacking their liver and insulin receptors?
I’m inclined to blame the carb-heavy diet that’s promoted by officialdom but you make a very interesting point.
My vaccination history was never checked when I worked in the NHS. I also never had the flu vaccine. Holier than thou nurses like you are the reason I left nursing and would now give good slap if they tried to bully and coerce me into accepting treatment I didn’t want.
Where exactly do you get that figure that 30% of flu cases are asymptomatic. If there’s no symptoms you don’t have the flu. Or, put it another way, I have smallpox but I don’t have symptoms.
I currently have a very nasty case of asymptomatic dyphtheria, combined with asymptomatic rabies. Soldiering on….
They need to check the health and safety law. There’s the phrase “reasonably practicable” in the duties placed on an employer. Is a medical procedure reasonably practicable? They also would need to justify that such a procedure was necessary for the job to be performed. The other side of the coin is could their employees refuse to do work for clients who aren’t vaccinated? Pimlico plumbers cannot fix your plumbing unless you’ve been vaccinated?
Cue for finding another plumber pronto and if they all started playing silly b&ggers – cue for expose articles in the media of “My house ruined because plumbers refused to sort the leak”.
There are a lot of people that still cling to a naive faith in the system, but how many people would have thought the nation would be put under house arrest for 12 months & forced by state thugs to demand you cover your face with menaces, 2 years ago?
Me! I’ve been anticipating “Something” for at least a couple of years now and walking round the town I’m now living in wondering just why I had the feeling I would be doing so in pretty darn empty streets at some point. But – yep….most people wouldn’t have thought this possible for sure…
“their employees” in Pimlico plumbers case that’s a moot point. Charlie Mullins claims they are not employees.
Try joining join the Congregation of Universal Wisdom and pleading an exemption due to religious beliefs. That should open up a nice can of worms…….
https://www.nytimes.com/2003/01/14/science/worship-optional-joining-a-church-to-avoid-vaccines.html
I am a member of The Pagan Federation, doe’s that count? as paganism is a recognised religion in the UK.
In the same way they can say “bosses can legally demand that staff wear clown suits under health and safety laws”. First you need to prove that it actually works, then you can claim you must do it. Cause, let me tell you, i think clothes contribute a lot to carrying this virus, so i’m going to demand that all staff come in as naked as possible. I’m sure no one will object to that.
People have to stand up and say NO! We have the power, we also have the numbers. Don’t be afraid to speak out.
Cowardice never gets you anywhere but trodden on!
This whole nonsense is simply because they are not allowed to ‘market’ these vaccines, so have to keep them in the public eye in order to maintain/influence acceptance. It’ll be loads of overpaid pr shills leaning on their journo contacts to keep this sort of story at the forefront in the meeja.
Police officer punches cafe worker ‘who was resisting arrest’ after force raids venue packed with 100 customers that has refused to close during Covid lockdown Have you ever noticed how the MSM don’t allow comments on or criticism of policing by consent?
Not called the “Filth” for nothing, and the MSM too.
There is no ‘policing by consent’ any longer. The police are behaving as though they were East German Stasi officers. Looking at the posted video, it is naked aggression by the police against someone for no other reason than that they can be violent and confrontational and get away with it. To then see the scumbag officer, for that is what he is, scum, attack the man again, push him to the floor, then pull him and push him up against a wall and throttle him. At no point did I see the man retaliate, only back away from the violent assault he was being subjected to – his treatment was not ‘proportionate’ on any level. A female officer then arrives, and starts to throw her not inconsiderable weight around, telling everyone to ‘back off’, rather than restrain her erstwhile colleague in assaulting a member of the public. In the background sirens can be heard. So, in short, the repressive forces of coercion had a total of three officers on hand, plus others arriving to ‘contain’ a situation that they caused attempting to stop someone from making and selling coffee. A free country and liberal democracy, I don’t think so.… Read more »
It’s worth pointing out that the cafe owner is not a native Briton. I don’t know where he’s from, but I suspect it’s a country where the inhabitants recognise totalitarian government when they see it.
I won’t say any more as it’s probably sub judice, but my guess is the police and council have been screaming at each other to do something about this because people are simply ignoring them. I suspect it was this that caused the PC to kick off.
The PC looked pretty young. He obviously lost his self-control and his colleagues made no attempt to temper the assault.
Notice also, however, that Luc looks quite relaxed and is grinning at the end of the video clip.
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I think Polish. A link has already been posted here today to a new interview with him .
This is a foretaste of the lack of Liberal democracy that awaits us.
I suspect the majority of citizens in the United Fascist Kingdom would defend the policeman, saying that he should have cooled off but the guy without the mask deserved it.
In just a few years time they will be picking up sceptics and beating the shit out of them. Then they will shoot kids in the head if they do not wear masks. These are the goons of fascism. Fascism is here.
Surely opening a cafe is not an arrestable offence in England now?
Can you be a lockdown sceptic and not question the vaccines? It seems to me the high profile lockdown scepticism is shrinking itself down to arguing that the costs of lockdowns outweigh the benefits. It’s the one argument that is still made with confidence while other issues relating to the dangers of the virus are addressed with more caution and doubt. And one can forget about seeing any arguments against the vaccines. But, does the evidence clearly show that lockdowns are effective? Does the data show that the death rate we are experiencing is beyond anything our generation has experienced before? Are hospitalisations higher than anything we’ve ever seen? Has the sceptical position on these issues been dented by the weight of evidence and strength of arguments of lockdown advocates? Hardly. The problem is that sceptics who want to remain “respectable” are falling into a trap. The vaccine trap. The establishment has succeeded in drawing a line in the sand with regards to vaccinations. Anyone who questions in any way, shape or form, the value of vaccines is instantly considered to be not only beyond the pale and a fringe conspiracist but an outright danger to society. Even pushing back… Read more »
I know 6 people who have had vaccines. 5 tested positive to CV19 in the 10 subsequent days, one (my father) has got very sever psoriasis for the first time in his life. The dermatologist he went too (Central lond) told him it is a side affect and over 50% of the people he is seeing have vaccine related conditions.
Foolish reliance on the Vaccine Solution is going to end in more repression.
So far
yes but isn’t there quite a lot of different vaccines? Doesn’t the Russian one, for example, reputedly have certain advantages (much to the disgust of some in the media, no doubt)?
Including Mrs FP and your’s truly.
But if people do not want the jab ,they shouldn’t be forced to.
This is totally wrong on several levels.
but which vaccine have they had? I suspect there are differences in the incidence of side effects. Which one did they have?
How many would that be?
Mixed – two fine, one with very severe symptoms of CV couldn’t do anything. Another blackout at wheel of car, told underlying heart conditions, despite having yearly medicals for their work. ECG never detected any heart problems. So 50% small numbers in my circle have had the jab – so not scientific.
FWIW, I know of several people who’ve had it. One has had severe pain since; all day long, making sleep hard, always waking him up at about 4am. The others report no issues.
meanwhile, i know dozens who’ve had PCR positive results. Large minority asymptomatic – the rest all recovered after a few days of flu-like symptoms or less. Last group includes me and my wife in February last year without confirmatory test.
Vast majority are maskurbators, covidians, NHS worshippers. About 10% are sane skeptics.
Nobody I know has had covid let alone die from it!
I know a lot of people who have ‘had it’ [or so they were told) and it was just a cold
Bob Moran tweeted this:
https://twitter.com/bobscartoons/status/1358514241070891010
My godmother is in hospital recovering from a heart attack. She is 79 with no history of heart problems. She’s extremely fit and healthy for her age.
She had been feeling extremely unwell for the past 5 days.
She had the vaccine 5 days ago.
Thank you for all the kind replies to this.
She (his Godmother) very sadly died today.
She was a wonderful person with an indomitable spirit and a brilliant sense of humour.
I loved her dearly.
So many stories on his thread from others saying similar
You and others will be interested to see this report of the deaths of three young and, seemingly, healthy medics in Italy from heart attacks after being vaccinated.
https://healthimpactnews.com/2021/45-year-old-italian-doctor-in-the-prime-of-life-and-in-perfect-health-drops-dead-after-the-pfizer-mrna-covid-shot-39-year-old-nurse-42-year-old-surgical-technician-also-dead/
Forgive the double negative but testing positive and/or getting CV 19 does not mean you are not fine.
Being paranoid doesn’t mean they’re not after you.
not the issue is it?
Irrelevant and non-scientific. On this site we like data!
Everyone I know who has had the vaccine is a lockdownista. None of them were fine before they had the jab. The vaccines will not prevent Covid or cure stupid, it seems.
The next round of trials will end in 2023, all those brave enough to have volunteered for these experimental vaccines can report back then, if they can.
That’s good for them, I’m pleased for them. They exercised their free choice to get the vaccine. All we ask is that people who don’t want it are also allowed to exercise their free choice to refuse.
I can’t go along with you. Virtually all of those who have vaccinated so far, are people who will not have given informed consent. The vaccinated will also not have been told that there is only very limited information regarding the efficacy and safety of the potentially dangerous experimental biological agents that are about to be injected into their bodies. They should also have been informed that they are entering into the trials of a hardly tested unproven medication and that they will be effectively unpaid guinea pigs, with no claim against the vaccine makers or injectors. Those that then proceed will be likely be only the stupid or the suicidal.
I think they’re being duped, as the inmates of auschwitz were duped into thinking they were just going to take a shower. but I would concede that while you can shout a warning as you see someone stepping in front of a bus, you can’t stop them if they’re determined to do it, you can’t break the trance that they’re acting under
Duped is a good word for it.
They’re being duped, that’s a given.
All vaccines are necessarily unsafe, according to the US Supreme Court. However, the experimental and hardly tested liability free biological agents, now being touted as Covid vaccines, have taken this lack of safety to a whole new level. Indeed, the glaringly obvious dearth of the normal trials should have been a warning for all of us to stay well clear, but no and almost unbelievably, millions have already thrown caution to the wind, in baring their arms for these suspect products. All this, even as these untested agents scythe through the hapless residents of “care” homes.
No doubt then, that the endless propaganda from an utterly corrupt Big Pharma and the thoroughly squalid UK government has done the trick, keeping all normal common sense at bay. This mindless risk taking for vaccines, which don’t claim to halt or even reduce transmission of an infection, that has a survival rate of around 99.98%. You couldn’t make this stuff up.
for now
Three people that I know have been ill enough to take to their beds for a couple of days after having the Oxford vaccine.
Bill Gates is behind all the western vaccines in use as of now. None of them will be safe.
and hes behind all the GMOS h e is evil personified
A deserved round ton ✔️
How can you justify a vaccine for a disease that doesn’t officially exist? If you can’t isolate it or purify it how can you identify it.
Koch’s postulates, say no more.
Yes exactly. There is definitely something fishy going on or else why this massive dash to try and get everyone inoculated???
The vaccine is the gateway drug to totalitarianism.It will lead to a digital passport despite the protestations of the vaccine minister yesterday..Businesses will do the dirty work for them.
This is so glaringly obvious to those of us not in the NLP-induced trance.
my late father was involved 30 years ago in a long-running project to develop a vaccine for the common cold – a coronavirus. they didn’t succeed. in 40 years, there is still no AIDS vaccine, yet the brainwashed idiots who hang on every word of the government and the msm have no trouble believing that within 6 months of the ‘Pandemic’ movie being role-played across the world, hey presto! a miracle vaccine is conjured up out of nowhere. it seems they have been working on this genetic engineering technology for decades, but never tried it on human beings before. all the rats etc they experimented on in connection with it over the past decades died (according to Dolores Cahill) which is why it never got as far as humans. now suddenly everyone on the planet is expected to take it, over as short a time period as possible. go figure.
Yes it doesn’t look good. Talk of vaccine passports is a ruse to get us to comply with their vaccination plans. The vaccines are about population reduction, much more than anything else.
The vaccines are the main part of the depopulation plan. Some of those now vaccinated will die early, but most will die painfully over the next year or so.
It is crucial for the depopulators and their dullard collaborators in government, that everyone is vaccinated, as a pool of unvaccinated people, who are stubbornly refusing to die, would give their dirty game away. Vaccine refuseniks like myself, will come under great pressure to conform in the coming months, but they will have to tie me down first.
You can’t. This is a variation of gaslight manipulation.
Back in Spring, they were cacking it because they had reason to believe it originated from a lab in Wuhan containing some possibly quite dangerous viruses etc. Things snowballed from there, and they couldn’t draw back even after it was found to be less dangerous than feared.
What was that film about someone who dodged a bus fare, and things quickly got out of hand causing him all manner of bother? A similar thing, but for real.
There was an interesting document shared by Bob Moran on Twitter yesterday, regarding increased deaths in care homes following vaccines. It took the form of a letter from a group of UK doctors requesting that more research is done to understand why this is happening. It should be getting more attention.
https://uploads-ssl.webflow.com/5fa5866942937a4d73918723/601ffc3e56a64132caa3f42f_Open_Letter_from_the_UKMFA_Vaccine_Deaths_Care%20Homes.pdf
Yes, I am tweeting it all over the place.
The wariness in the daily posts about discussing vaccine safety, ethics and other issues is becoming very noticeable.
That’s a charitable way of puttimg it.
Agreed. I’ve lost faith.
Don’t forget:
-this virus is not lethal for most of the population
-lockdowns cause more harm than good
-lockdowns don’t achieve anything but pushing the problem into the future and delay herd immunity
-shield the vulnerable and dependent on where you are in the vaccine debate these are the people who should receive a vaccine, just like the flu vaccine.
We should concentrate on working out how we can prevent this mass hysteria in the future.
I gather Sweden has a law which prevents governments from using lockdowns as a measure.
They had that sorted out recently. I believe the passed an act allowing for enforced lockdowns rather than advisory
As Michael P. Senger reports on Twitter, WHO came to the same realization: https://twitter.com/MichaelPSenger/status/1358534093890224128
Anyone who wants to understand vaccines should first read about their history. The book “Dissolving Illusions” by Suzanne Humphries and Roman Bystrianyk is a must read. Vaccines have always relied on the mendacity and avarice of medical professionals and the Pharma industry for their sales success in the face of evidence against them. The public has always been resistant. Mandated vaccination against smallpox was at its highest level in 1870 until a huge worldwide outbreak in 1871 killed mostly the vaccinated! It still took 40 years until penalties for non compliance were removed from UK law. Polio underwent a similar level of propaganda regarding its prevalence and lethality as we are now seeing regarding Covid 19. It’s decline started well before the introduction of a vaccine. It is argued that today polio in India and Africa is mostly vaccine induced – indeed the Indian government threw Bill Gates’ GAVI out of the country for this reason. (He’s back in….) Early last year I heard Judy Mikovits claim that there is not an effective vaccine against respiratory disease! This did rather shock me. Hasn’t she heard of BCGs and TB? I googled this and found the WHO webpage on TB. Paragraph… Read more »
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“Re: Urgent warning re Covid-19 vaccine-related deaths in the elderly and Care Homes
In our Open Letter of 23 November 2020, addressed to the MHRA, JCVI and Matt Hancocki, we outlined our concerns of potential public health risks from a mass roll-out of the Covid-19 vaccines because of only limited short-term safety data and no long-term safety data”
https://uploads-ssl.webflow.com/5fa5866942937a4d73918723/601ffc3e56a64132caa3f42f_Open_Letter_from_the_UKMFA_Vaccine_Deaths_Care%20Homes.pdf
Hi Stewart, thank you for your post, it is a brilliant analysis and I completely agree with you. I feel a presonal threat when reading about vaccine enthusiasm and debates about mandating it/making your life impossible if you disagree and I have been feeling a touch of betrayal from LS lately. They seem to have chosen the path of not questioning the narrative, which goes against what this blog used to be only a few weeks ago. It’s a let down for me and I can’t believe how many intelligent people seem to be unable to debate against absurdities. Anyway, when I was trying to figure out how to reply to you, I accidentally flagged your post so someone might read it after all!
I must admit that I only reluctantly came on here, assuming for some time that it was a meeting point to collect objectors together to quietly mutter but not achieve much. To sort of quarantine objections and thinking. If so it has failed and Toby Young is never getting that knighthood, no matter how much he signals through the pages of this blog. It seems to me that he has been chosen for a fate far more elevated than being part of this Country’s broken legislature. Something as simple and primary as preserving free speech, is the first line of true defence of yourself and other human beings. It transcends all forms of thinking and governance. It is truly noble. And if he gets this right, his legacy and that of others who have risked so much to speak freely will endure well past any left by any of the current protagonists. Their intense mediocrity tells you quite how irrelevant they are in the grand scheme of things. Now I have joined, I see such good discourse and sensible discussion of masks, lockdown and education in combination with a liberal attitude to free speech which actually altered my thinking and… Read more »
I agree with your comments on Toby, I was very surprised by his want of a knighthood and I hope that vanity won’t get the best of him! Maybe we should send him this thread to restore his energy and motivation.
Don’t forget, the 77th Brigade will be lurking on here, steering debate back towards the main narrative. I have to question the motives of some ‘people’ on here. It appears that this site may have always been about ‘herding’ the sceptics together, keeping them from making actual, real world changes, until the final solution – gene therapies masking as vaccines – can be brought to the fore. Obviously just my opinion.
I’m afraid I think that whoever is really behind this vaccine push knows very well what they are going to do, – and it has nothing whatsoever with halting the spread of any seasonal respiratory virus
Very well said. You have expressed perfectly what has been on my mind.
one of many reasons i wont get the vaccine is that it is genetcially engineered courtesy of the same guy who has foisted GMOS around the world with monsanto think w e all know his name .besides which ive never had a flu vaccine, i know many others[mostly strangers i pick up conversations with now ] who feel the same way about flu vaccines and this one too.
but also because from the beginning well after one week or so think back in march ,iv’e thought and said come on people stop being wimps it’s a bad cold !
i agree and very well said stewart i wish i could write as well and clearly as you and think as clearly too!
Even if there were absolutely no concerns with the ‘vaccine’, it is absolutely outrageous that someone could consider themselves in the sceptic camp and be okay with the fact society is being held to hostage at the point of a syringe.
It seems the Great Barrington Declaration people have had their account suspended on Facebook. Oxford, Harvard, Stamford profs censored for essentially suggesting the same policy Sweden has successfully implemented. Indeed it was the government’s own plan before its cowardly craven foolish reversal. The tyranny is not hyperbole.
Covid19 is a horrendous contagion, in the same family as identity politics, cancel culture & censorship. Its ecological function is realpolitik, its all a combined power grab, to destroy freedoms & inalienable rights and the only way it can infect you is through socialism. I know this upsets socialists especially the Marxist variety but socialism is the neoliberal trojan horse than can establish totalitarian technocracy for the elite. Socialism is the opposite of self reliance, independence & freedom, the one thing that socialists desire is greater dependence on government, & psychopathic globalists have latched on to that ideology to manipulate their way to power. Conservative Christian culture is the road block to their destination, sadly they are already halfway there. Communism is the evil that has given us covid19 and all its draconian diktats, don’t believe me ask China! That’s our future, each country run as a corporate entity lead by self prescribed elite CEO’s governed by NGOs (world bank, WEF, IMF, UN etc). China is the neo-liberal role model & blueprint for the future of our country. We are at war and we don’t even know it (or at least many wont accept it). This is nothing more than… Read more »
Brilliant post
The slow march into communism by the public began the moment it was manipulated to accept the concept of government from ‘cradle to grave’. I always found it a very sinister phrase, and, now the consequences of it, are being fully bared out.
the welfare state, superficially appealing, was always a horrendous idea, a wolf in sheep’s clothing, and the NHS is one of its most horrific manifestations. there was never any such thing as free cheese -except in a mousetrap.
No one heeded the warnings from Yuri Bezmenov back in 1984.
Yes, but you are describing fascism not communism, everyone subservient to the corporate state.
I think they both meet round the back somewhere!
I never called china communist they did.
Platform for attention seekers, exhibitionists and inadequates.
Facebook that is.
Ah yes, that well-known source for news, Fakebook!
Faecebook is what I call it.
I use it to post anti-mockdown stuff, articles proving masks don’t work etc.
I had a chat yesterday with a lady whose GP surgery is ringing her regularly about the vaccine. She has a history of bad reactions to medicines so has decided not to take one. She has told the surgery that but they keep ringing and are trying to convince her.
I told her that next time they ring to say that she has made her decision and that is final. Any more calls and she will move to another practice.
There must be a lot of people out there under serious pressure from surgeries. I was appalled. This is totally unacceptable.
I am reading this book: Dissolving Illusions – Suzanne Humphries and Roman Bystrianyk.
It charts the not so glorious history of vaccines through history.
They are not in any way a panacea.
This vaccine hysteria is another disaster in the making.
Everyone needs to read this book!
My 82 year old mum is being harassed by surgery and friends (she won’t lie) to get the jab. She’s healthy and lives alone in the countryside. Other than coming to stay with us fairly regularly (also isolated & rural) she doesn’t see anyone.
I think the maths for deciding on the vaccine is wrong: it’s your chance of catching the disease (i.e. prevalence) x the risk of the disease itself, vs. the chance of side effects of the vaccine. You have to take prevalence into account.
And since mum is unlikely to come into contact with the disease this season, and given poor data on elderly uptake etc, I’ve advised her not to bother. She agrees.
She should just to say them “come back to me in a few years after the safety trials have been completed” and then I will have a think about it..
Good analysis. I was thinking along the same lines, with some numbers purely for purpose of illustration: supposing my chances of catching covid are 1 in 10 (currently will be a lot lower since there are no events to go to), and suppose that if I have it, the chances of it being quite bad are also 1 in 10. Then my overall chances of getting covid badly are 1 in 100. And, supposing my chances of a bad reaction to the vaccine are 1 in 50, then if I definitely get the vaccine my overall chances of getting a bad reaction are also 1 in 50. How bad is bad, and the nature of the bad effects, is not being considered here. But on these broad considerations the rational decision is not to get the vaccine.
Exactly this, yes.
This calculation just doesn’t seem to have registered with any other friends or relatives, all of whom are urging mum to get jabbed. Fortunately she’s never cared about following the crowd (like mum like daughter!) and understands simple maths logic.
Still waiting to see if I get that phonecall (due soon – as I’m late 60’s and so next group in line here). Decided to say “No” and, if they push it they will get “I said NO” for a second response and, if they’re still pushing they will get that assertiveness training Broken Record technique of me just repeating “No – I won’t be” umpteen times (might even sing it to liven things up – “No, no, no, no, no, no, no – NO,NO, NO, NO, NO, NO – No no – no no” etc ad infinitum and then one of us will slam the phone down (don’t know whether that would be them or me LOL). Any further calls – and I just cut the phone off on them. If need be – my phone stays off the hook for the duration and I just tell my friends to leave messages for me on ansafone and I’ll phone them back. Blessings of having an old-style plug-in landline phone…
just treat them as you would Jehovah’s witnesses, ‘not today thank you’ said as you slam the door or hang up the phone. do not engage with them.
Now that is a plan so cunning if it had ears and a tail it would be a fox!!
Yeah – start calling them back repeatedly – to try and save them.
Anything Corona’s Witnesses can do, Jehovah’s can do better.
My apologies to any Jehovah’s Witness reading this. I don’t mean any offence.
I’m half Jehovah’s Witness, half Quaker.
I knock on people’s doors but don’t say anything.
🤣🤣🤣
I think you should engage with them, for as long as you can, at their expense, ask them to explain the excess deaths that have happened since vaccinations started – or the 3% serious adverse reactions in America – or why the vaccine is needed when there are excellent treatments (HCQ and IVM) available -or- why vaccinate when the recovery rate is 99%+ …
You will not be talking to the doc or nurse, but you may plant a seed of enquiry.
That’s why I’m so glad I haven’t gotten around to registering with a GP and perhaps I will make this permanent.
The last time I went to a GP (about 11 years ago), twice within a year because of broken arm and wasp allergy, I got sent to A&E each time. I have no respect for them.
Surprised at this.
I received one call from my surgery, told them I wouldn’t take up their kind offer and they said “OK I’ll put you down as ‘declined'”. End of.
I’m guessing that you got someone that was “just doing their job” – ie in the proper/Normal sort of way. But there will be surgeries etc where the person making the call is a Lockdown Zealot personally and sees a grand chance to have a go at the person they are calling and will try and bully them in any way they can manage (eg by repeated phonecalls).
And all that money they are being paid to vaccine people. The more people the more money.
I got a call and was put down as declined. I did get a followup call a week or so later (from a doctor?) who asked why I had declined. I said I didn’t have to give reasons. He said he was trying to help. In the end he said he would put it in the notes so hopefully will not hear any more. I think it is best not to get into any discussion regarding why you are not taking it. Just say no.
You have a right to remain silent ……
That’s what happened to AlanG too. MW
It’s how the NHS treat the elderly: With contempt and a good dose of bullying and harassment.
Unacceptable, LS! Utterly unacceptable! We are not here for “vaccine watch” (the “South African strain” is BS… there are thousands of “strains”), nor are we interested in this preposterous notion being pushed that businesses can adopt a “no jab, no job” policy. They CANNOT. End of.
What SHOULD have been your headline today was “Mike Yeadon, original critic of Lockdown policy, is bullied off Twitter”.
We have all seen the heartbreaking message that Mike sent to Robin Monotti. Both of them are HEROES of this community. Brave professionals who stood up and told the truth. All these people deserve a bit more support here. Stop bleating about vaccines and start reporting on the attacks on “Lockdown Sceptics”.
Not cool. Not cool AT ALL.
Agreed. Three cheers for Yeadon, and lasting gratitude for what he has already done.
Star witness at Nuremberg 2.
Hear hear
Yeadon is a hero, and will walk tall and vindicated when his attackers have suck into a cesspit of shame and derision.
Either that or we’re done for.
God damn that lot.
Yep.
I have assumed that the fact that Mike Yeadon has been cancelled is the very reason why this is not featured in the newsletter. I am surprised and pleased that this site is still here and I assume that the dull mainstream headlines are there as a front to deflect the critics.
could very well be[at least hope so ] and this way we still get to read and write in comments
I regret to say it, but I agree.
This is about far more than lockdowns now.
What did Yeadon send to Monotti?
Look at Julia HB’s twitter. It’s all over that. A screenshot of a WhatsApp message. I don’t agree with half of what JHB has to say on other issues but on this one she had been relentless, rational, fearless and fierce! She will not stop grilling ministers. She will not stop demanding all our freedoms are returned. She will not stop. She’s a warrior.
Yes indeed brave men who stepped forward and spoke out against the wave, (pun intended) of public opinion, when it was needed, these are the people that deserve medals & hero status (if you believe in that stuff) not profesional murderers & old propagandists.
hear hear
The Conservative Woman has an article by John Petley applying the story of the emperor’s new clothes to the contemporary situation. This is an apposite reference to the dynamics of mass delusion. Mr Petley points out that the boy’s explicit recognition is met with denunciation by those in authority, but ends the story with enough of the people seeing the truth. And this is apparently how most people construe the tale of the emperor’s new clothes, which is ironic, for that is not how the story ends. As the final paragraph makes perfectly clear, although it is an embarrassing problem for the emperor to have so many see he is naked, nevertheless he and his noblemen carry on as though he is magnificently attired. The Emperor shivered, for he suspected they were right. But he thought, “This procession has got to go on.” So he walked more proudly than ever, as his noblemen held high the train that wasn’t there at all. From the outset there have been voices pointing out that the responses to the coronavirus were disproportionate and would cause more harm than the virus ever could. And more and more people have come to see the truth… Read more »
Quite right. But the way that the story has always been interpreted – as Andersen clearly intended – is that the boy was right, and the emperor and his sycophants were stupid and ridiculous. So I’d stick with the story.
The truth can only be a appreciated and accepted by those who embraced the lie when they themselves directly experience its consequences.
For 80% of the ‘bought quiet’ population that means only when either people start to die in droves
because of the ‘vaccines’ (and that can’t be covered up anymore), or when the money has run out, which will now most likely happen through hyperinflation and a subsequent currency reform and its ensuing partial asset confiscation (Lastenausgleich, wealth tax etc.) and depression.
And even then, most people won’t be able to admit that they were wrong.
More food for the independent public inquiry:
‘…….shortly after the first case of Covid was detected in a care home on March 31st, Singapore’s Ministry of Health moved around 3,000 nursing home employees into hotels to isolate them from the wider community, and tested all 9,000 nursing-home staff. Positive tests were followed by contact tracing and quarantine. Those measures were in addition to a month-long ban on visitation, safe-distancing in all homes, and zoning. Singapore has reported only three Covid-related care-home deaths, compared with estimates of 25,000 Covid-related deaths in the UK.’ Singapore above
What is that sound….like a balloon deflating at speed?
Oh….it’s the wind coming out of the windbags who claimed that shielding could not be effective, effected.
Fair enough, but don’t hold up Singapore as a model of right social conduct. It’s a repressive authoritarian society.
I have been to Singapore on a number of occasions, and I have spoken to Singaporeans about their country, so there is absolutely no danger of me holding it up ‘as a model of right social conduct’, whatever that may be (is objectivity on such a matter even possible?).
As Singaporean clinicians themselves point out:
‘“On a practical note, implementing these isolation measures met with little resistance, which may be a result of the collectivistic culture of Asian societies,” they wrote. “However, applying such a strategy in countries with an individualistic culture (where individual freedom is more highly valued) or in less economically developed nations may be more difficult.”
https://www.contagionlive.com/view/how-singapore-managed-covid-19-outbreaks-foreign-workers
A bit like the UK?
Forcibly removing nursing home employees to hotels away from their family, their children etc. Yeah that’s an example we want to follow…
That’s exactly the sound I was referring to…….
‘On a practical note, implementing these isolation measures met with little resistance…’ (Reference above)
Whereas we preferred to forcibly isolate our students and prevent them from going home to their families.
Consider it possible that at least some dedicated staff saw it as part of their duty, as in Japan:
‘…..manager Takao Furusawa says he owes a huge debt of gratitude to staff members who have basically put their own lives on hold so they don’t bring the virus in.
“They have hardly been anywhere else except here, and just commute between their homes and work,” he said. “They have taken their responsibility very seriously. That’s humbling to me.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/japan-coronavirus-elderly-death-rate/2020/08/29/f30f3ca8-e2da-11ea-82d8-5e55d47e90ca_story.html
Some careworkers in the UK did exactly that too – voluntarily.
In case you missed it yesterday:
First they ignore you.
Then they laugh at you.
Then they fight you.
Then you win.
Gandhi
Write it out. Stick it on the fridge. Let it be your hope and inspiration. They are fighting us now.
Gandhi (and his followers) ultimately won by flooding the legal system with fines/cases
to the point where the bureaucracy buckled
Every I go out, I am fighting them. In my heart and brain and mind and soul I am fighting them all the time.
Oh yes – with you on that one. No surrender!
Well said. We carry on fighting because that’s the only way we will prevail.
I can’t believe the situation we now find ourselves in. Just sitting here, helpless, as the greatest and most ethically depraved medical experiment ever on the human race just motors on unopposed. LS increasingly won’t touch the subject of Covid vaccine adverse reactions or deaths possibly out of fear of being labelled as an “anti-vaxxer” site by the likes of the mendacious Neil O’Brein MP. I watched a few minutes of the Reform Party’s new YouTube show, and switched it off when it became a love-in for the vaccines (and even suggested that they give you good levels of immunity which is just a total lie). Lockdown scepticism is clearly more mainstream these days, but there is hardly an appetite to challenge the growing dangers of these very suspect jabs.
No wonder Dr Vernon Coleman broke down in his last video (I would encourage all to see it on Brand New Tube). This is a man who has seen his character and reputation destroyed for going against the juggernaut that is Big Pharma. He knows how evil this whole operation is. And yet, he’s just like the rest of us.
Helpless.
You are NOT helpless. Don’t be gas lit! Keep writing to your MP and members of the House of Lords. Keep it up. It’s a war of attrition!
Definitely. Follow the Mastermind cue: “I’ve started, so I’ll finish”
Absolutely. It is a war of attrition indeed. I’ve been on the end of a personal war of attrition that went on for years at one point in my life – and this does feel the same (only on a Society-wide scale). They are trying to break our will.
Agreed. We are getting through. We must fight this war to the end. Helpless? We don’t need to be.
Agree. It is even more incumbent upon us, below the line, to keep sharing evidence, links and support.
More for the Public Inquiry. More on Singapore, the major outbreaks were amongst immigrant workers living in cramped accommodation.
‘by early August, more than 94% of Singapore’s 53,000-plus cases were observed in foreign workers living in dormitories at the time.’
But it wasn’t much of a problem. Why? The workers were all young and physically active.
‘Patients were generally young, with no severe symptoms, no serious comorbid conditions..’
‘Just 136 (3.6%) patients were transferred to a general hospital in the first month. Of them, 1 required intensive care’
And a pragmatic approach to PCR testing:
‘“It has been demonstrated that SARS-CoV-2 is probably not viable after the second week of illness, despite the persistence of RNA detected on polymerase chain reaction assay,”
Lessons learned?……Oh, they had already learned them? Why hadn’t we?
‘“Isolation facilities can be created rapidly to care for patients without serious adverse outcomes,”
‘“If we contained the disease by hospitalizing patients with COVID-19, as was the strategy adopted in Singapore during the 2003 SARS outbreak, the nation’s health care infrastructure would have been rapidly overwhelmed,”
https://www.contagionlive.com/view/how-singapore-managed-covid-19-outbreaks-foreign-workers
WAKEY! WAKEY!
straw poll: Do you believe all these laws/changes/proposed ‘solutions’ have anything at all to do with a ‘virus’ as deadly as flu to the majority of the country?
‘jabs for jobs’ or ‘vaccine passports’ or stopping pubs from operating or collusion between govt advisors and MPs are all about your health?
The lockdowns are driving down birth rates, causing as many deaths as Corona, stealing freedoms, causing economic depression and saddling our great grandchildren with untold levels of debt.
Every day I find myself trying to find how this CAN’T have been planned in some way. After all, the great UN Agendas 21/2030 will use the above as further fuel to their totalitarian wet dreams.
WAKE UP! WAKE UP! WAKE UP!
Think of your posterity for once. Your country existing literally depends on it.
Coronavirus Pt. 6: The COVID Vaccines – part 2 – UPDATED – Vaxxter
Reuters reported in September that “Singapore sticks rigidly to the WHO’s case definition for classifying COVID-19 deaths. It does not include non-pneumonia fatalities like those caused by blood or heart issues among COVID-19 patients in its official tally.” The WHO case definition requires that a Covid-19 death be from a clinically relevant condition.
If true this would at least partly explain the very low mortality there.
For all those SARS CoV 2 predictive models that fail to factor in T-Cell immunity:
‘The temporal association of functional SARS-CoV-2-specific T cell appearance with reduced length of infection suggests that T cells play an essential role in the control of SARS-CoV-2 infection.’
So junk those models immediately and start again, with some brand new coding:
”….the role of such peptide cross-reactive cells is puzzling and calls for a more detailed analysis of the effect of pre-existing immunity in the control or pathogenesis of SARS-CoV-2 infection’
https://www.cell.com/cell-reports/fulltext/S2211-1247(21)00041-3#%20
Because pre-existing immunity is, intuitively, blindingly obvious looking at covid 19 incidence or lack of it in Taiwan, Hong Kong, Singapore and correlating with the earlier SARS outbreak of 2003:
‘In addition to Beijing, other affected areas in China include Guangdong Province, Hong Kong SAR, Shanxi Province, and Taiwan Province. Toronto, Singapore, and Hanoi are also listed as affected.’
https://www.who.int/csr/sarsarchive/2003_04_12/en/
If there is widespread immunity to SARS in east Asia then the incidence of SARS must have been greatly underreported and its lethality must be greatly overestimated.
Bang on!
And we were told that on 06 February 2020!
By a highly respected coronavirus expert in China at the time of the outbreak, Prof. John Nicholls, Univ. of Hong Kong
‘What is probably right is that just as with SARS there’s probably much stricter guidelines in mainland China for a case to be considered positive. So the 20,000 cases in China is probably only the severe cases; the folks that actually went to the hospital and got tested. The Chinese healthcare system is very overwhelmed with all the tests going through. So my thinking is this is actually not as severe a disease as is being suggested. The fatality rate is probably only 0.8%-1%. There’s a vast underreporting of cases in China. Compared to Sars and Mers we are talking about a coronavirus that has a mortality rate of 8 to 10 times less deadly to Sars to Mers. So a correct comparison is not Sars or Mers but a severe cold. Basically this is a severe form of the cold.’
I’ve always suspected Sars Cov1 didn’t just “disappear”
It simply fell out of the news cycle when it became a cold
I have an idea on ‘no jab, no job’. Firstly, many jobs are becoming obsolete and will be automated. So where is the need for this… Soon it will be ‘no jab, no ability to buy/sell/eat’ without the mark of the beast as it were. This will happen when the govt eventually rolls out its own crypto currency. SECONDLY! Where could you realistically go with this? Let’s say someone gets in to power and then declares (rightly as it happens) that HIV is a pandemic or at least epidemic within the UK. What could they now legally impose on the population? No one has sex without permission? The high risk groups are to be isolated so it cannot spread and/or forced to take experimental vaccines. I somehow don’t think the LGBT brigade would be happy and as they are a lobby group desperate for power these restrictions probably not happen in such a case. Which leads me to point three. THIRDLY! The only way any of this is possible is because the UK ‘adults’ have become soft, PlayStation playing, soy drinking depressed individuals. So when a cause comes along that they can jump on for their temporary boost to their… Read more »
“Point is if you stand for nothing, you fall for everything.”
GREAT QUOTE!
Meanwhile, in Israel: https://www.timesofisrael.com/new-israeli-drug-cured-moderate-to-serious-covid-cases-within-days-hospital/
Unfortunately our present Government can only hold one thought in it’s mind and that word is vaccine. Apparently Hancock has based his policy on a viewing of the film Contagion, so it must be right.
It is scandalous that treatment options have been sidelined when it has been apparent that there were existing treatment possibilities let alone new ones that could have done much to treat anyone suffering from serious Covid.
There was talk of Ivermectin being used in India, do we know if that is what happened?
HCQ and zinc are the preferred option in india. They make a lot of the world’s HCQ.
I came across something on Twitter where they distributed packs of Vitamin supplements plus zinc and HCQ which are cheap.
Not to mention that social distancing and masking is pretty much non-existent.
Trust me I’m the Vaccine Minister
Just reading the ongoing discussions between Toby and Christopher Snowdon.
They focus on Sweden and the death rates in recent years. When you analyse the figures adjusted for the increase in age and population, 2020 had 101.3% x the death rate in 2017, 102.87% that in 2019 and 108.74% in 2019. It was clearly 2019 that was the outlier – 2020 was pretty close to normal !
sorry, the first 2019 should read 2018
So it’s official then – there are people in the Government that would like a “No jab no job” policy. Boy am I glad I’m retired!! I do hope the Government doesn’t land up as leading discriminator against those of us that make our own choices on that one – and our choice is not to have the vax. Would anyone like to speculate just what proportion of the workforce will stick to “My body = my choice” and have already made the choice not to have the vax? I am just so thankful that I am retired – because I wouldn’t have the jab no matter what. I’m guessing that if those members of the Government that want to force a policy like that on people succeed that they’ve not anticipated just how many unfair dismissals on the one hand and Lockdown suicides amongst working age group people on the other hand there would be. If the Govt. hawks on that one get their way – that will give one heck of a Green Light to others to discriminate in that way and we’ll have Vax Apartheid across society in a huge range of different respects. If employers get… Read more »
If vaccination is effective, then for international travel as a ‘passport’ it would be valid like a yellow fever certificate. The emphasis is on ‘if.’ And it has to prevent transmission too.
The “debate” on the issue of mandatory vaccinations for employment and travel is a way of embedding the assumption that the so called vaccines are a public heath measure and that it is necessary for individuals to be vaccinated in order to protect others. This assumption is false. A vaccine is a clinical measure. A vaccine is a substance that includes an attenuated form of the causative agent (in this case that would be the coronavirus) which enables the individual’s immune system to develop defences, thus conferring immunity from the disease. A vaccine protects the vaccinated individual; it does not protect anyone else. Thus, the vaccinated have nothing to fear from the unvaccinated. However, the so called vaccines are not vaccines. First, none of them include the causative agent (the coronavirus), which even now has still to be isolated and cultured. The so called vaccines were developed by using the genetic code for the virus that China provided the World Health Organisation. Second, none of them confer immunity. Even the developers only claim their products reduce the severity of the symptoms. The “debate” ignores these facts and instead focuses on whether or not it would be proportionate to require people… Read more »
Fascists – Covidiot cult members in this case – don’t debate. They dehumanise (anti-vaxxer, anti-science, you are stupid). They use force (mandatory jabs, no job, no travel). They threaten violence (you are a public health risk, off to a camp).
The ‘science’ would say the opposite of the Covidiot Fascists. There is no science to vaxxing the entire pop (does not stop transmission) and no science to rushing unproven chemical ingestions. None.
My lockdown boredom and frustration is leading to limerick writing. Here’s today’s offering.
Our government’s playing a trick,
They’re pretending we might all get sick,
We should stay in our homes,
Quake in fear all alone,
‘Til our freedom is earned with a prick.
From all the data that we’ve been collectin’
Covid’s weaker than we were expectin’
So let’s forget these vaccines
That could impact on our genes
And just give all the sick, Ivermectin
Love it!
50% of the population will not take the vaxx poison. So will they issue yellow stars for our jackets? Perhaps we need to shave our hair as well?
No proof exists that flu vaxx’s help more than a small minority. None.
A flu vaxx is not the same as a rabies or smallpox vaxx. No relationship, don’t conflate.
mRNA is untried, untested, unproven to do anything. It might reduce symptoms, no proof exists that it does much of anything.
Vaxx injury rates in the US are running at about 1 % or greater than those dying from CV 19. No Fake News interest in this of course.
Flu vaxx’s do not stop transmissions. No proof of that exists.
Flu vaxx’s are unnecessary unless you are over 70 and/or have a poor immune system. No science exists supporting the notion that healthy, under 60s need a vaxx. None.
So why the rush to Vaxx the entire world?
None of it is based on science.
So why the rush to Vaxx the entire world?
None of it is based on science.
It seems to me that the ludicrous vaccination policy is there to justify the ludicrous over-reaction to the virus in the first place. And the rush is to do this before the virus disappears quite naturally as do all viruses in the end.
I’ll wear my star with pride.
Even when the zombies start spitting at you in the street?
From six feet away? Through face knickers?
Yeah, I didn’t think that through did I?
Just working to the agenda.
There will be no mandates, but your credit score, based on your behaviour, will control what you are allowed to do; buy food, travel on the bus, travel on the train, order stuff on line.
‘No jab, no job’ is not legal. There are no ifs, buts, or maybes about it. A coercive medical procedure without informed consent is contrary to Article 6 of the Universal Declaration on Bioethics and Human Rights, and Articles 8 and 14 of the European Convention on Human Rights. Moreover, in domestic law, a medical procedure without informed consent is a criminal offence and a civil tort – it is assault on both counts, as well as potential clinical negligence on the latter if harm or loss arises from the procedure. Never before has anyone in this country been required to have a medical procedure in order to exercise their right to work to provide food and shelter for themselves and their families. There are diseases far worse that Covid-19 and the public does not require a vaccine for them before being able to work. A ‘risk assessment’ is complete bilge – by its very definition, a vaccine protects the person who has had it from infection, therefore they don’t need to worry about the unvaccinated. Protection from catching what is a mild disease for the vast majority has never before been included in any workplace risk assessment, to my… Read more »
Poppy, I hope you are putting your brilliant writing skills to use and being paid for it. Please DM me if not…
you are both brilliant writers so are annie and many more more like everyone here aside from me!
Once the state owns your body via socialised NHS government controlled, tax funded health care, the rest follows. Everything then is linked to a public ‘health issue’. This is one reason (amongst many) why socialised health care is immoral and dangerous. You have given up your body to the state. Now they can make any rule they wish.
I’m generally pretty pessimistic about all things covid, but I don’t think no jab no work has any legs for a few of reasons but not least because the market for work is a competitive place. Anyone who hires regularly knows it’s not that easy finding good people. Companies that require vaccines are going to be penalising themselves and will ultimately suffer the consequences.
That might be true for say software developers, but surely not for supermarket workers, delivery drivers, etc.
In my experience, it’s hard to find good people for pretty much any position.
Not hard to find people to sign up for the work, but hard to find those who will do the work well for the amount of pay available.
Maybe big corporations have it a bit easier.
But look at the NHS, who frequently complain about unfilled posts. And care homes, you think they find it easy to find people to do that work? Just off the cuff examples.
Sometimes its not the question of filling posts but the quality of people hired. Where I work, I can easily pinpoint enough people who should never have been hired in the first place.
That’s pretty much my point.
Agree. Given that many companies already struggle to hire and maintain good workers (as their reputation precedes them), mandating no jab no job will make their position even harder as sensible people would rather go on the dole or take on a badly paying job than to work with them.
Agree. And of course I don’t think they have factored in what happens if an employee develops adverse side effects ex. Bell’s Palsy that renders them unfit to work. Will they sack them? Because the employee can have a strong case for unfair dismissal and having put their lives at risk for having forced them to take a vaccine at the risk of losing their job.
a lovely piece of writing, but first I grew tired of ‘facts’, now I’m tired of ‘arguments’ ….. I am now convinced that we are dealing with such an unspeakable evil that these instruments of gentlemanly conflict resolution are completely out of place in responding to them: it’s like pissing into the wind. they lie and cheat and manipulate both in any case. I don’t know what the right response is. What does it say in the Bible? ‘resist not evil’ – I feel that’s the answer, although I do not really understand it.
Gove [ril]: ‘… the laws are mine, not thine: Who can arraign me for’t?’
Just had a news message ping on my phone.’keep Faith with the Oxford vaccine’ says minister.
Just about sums it up
The Priest has spoken
An opportunity to school him/her on the vaccine death spike.
The news message ping on my phone yesterday was about asexuality. Breaking news, huh.
The New Normal – faith, not evidence.
I just had this vision that Ms Zombie went to the jabberwokery and they gave her the AS snake oil and she was given a certificate and allowed to leave the country for a holiday in the Land of the Bong Tree, but when she arrived at the Land of the Bong Tree they wouldn’t let her in because they didn’t recognise the AS snake oil it had to be another brand that was acceptable to the Land of the Bong Teee where they had different mutants. End of story.
It’s a. good story. And the reason why I remain just a wee bit hopeful about vaccine/immunity passports.
The level of policy and logistics coordination required to pull it off is not something to dismiss so easily.
Absolutely. Even your own GP will have made errors and omissions in your notes. I’ve seen it first hand and was only a major inconvenience, not a danger thankfully. How on earth this could be managed nationally and then negotiated globally just boggles the mind.
Someone put this link up yesterday.
Dr. Sherri Tenpenny Explains How the Depopulation COVID Vaccines Will Start Working in 3-6 Months (ugetube.com)
An interesting strategy is suggested round about the 40 minute mark. The host explains how she has told her family that she will not look after them if they get sick from the vaccination.
Also in this video it mentions how Hitler made the people think that Jews carried a deadly disease.
Sound familiar?
Absolutely agree. The phrase “you made your bed, so you lie in it” would definitely be applicable imo.
That’s just the flip side of ‘if you decline the jab then you don’t deserve any medical treatment in future’. If we only care about people who agree with us in every way then all is lost.
Agree wholeheartedly, Charlie. We have to consider the coercion and fear if the vaccinated get ill. We should not turn our backs.
Not quite the same as being one’s brother’s keeper. If they choose to walk off the cliff in large numbers after having been warned, there will be little that you can do anyway.
Their foolhardiness will reinforce the status of our jailers and make it even more difficult to us to recover our freedoms.
Today the G paper (apologies can’t write or say the full word) and the BBC have gone after the Queen
A story so obviously planted by the dictatorship that a fully educated five year old could spot it (Alas, FEFYO’s not longer exist)
Anyway, they are trying to blackmail Madge. Is she breaking ranks?
What are they saying about or to her, Cecil? I don’t have the stomach to look at BBC or Graun so a synopsis would be gratefully received.
A story about her trying to influence the introduction a law about the disclosure of her wealth 50 years ago
The message is simple. Step out of line and we have lots more dirt we can chuck at you
A regular aspect of conspiracy theorists has been the purpose of the Bank of England Nominees company, which the G reckons was the vehicle to hide “her” wealth.
The conspiracy theorists maintain that this company means that the Bank of England is privately owned. Quite why a private company would own the level of UK government debt which may be defaulted on is beyond me.
Ah, but you see, everyone believes it isn’t privately owned, so don’t appreciate, that actually, all the nations could default on their debts, and then take control of their own currency, backed by sovereign wealth, and not pay the banks to print money into existence, who then charge to us, the interest on it, by way of inflation and hidden taxes.
Article in the BMJ which I didn’t finish reading because it annoyed me too much. A couple of good responses in the comments worth reading though. https://www.bmj.com/content/372/bmj.n314/rapid-responses
Mr Snowdon’s response is distinguished only by the distinctive sound of iron doors clanging shut: a closed mind.
He cannot conceive of a world of nuance and complexity
For example, the seasonality of SARS CoV 2
‘….societal changes over the past centuries with industrial revolutions that relocated outdoor agricultural workplaces into indoor factories and offices, while moving human lifestyle away from nature and outdoor climate. In the context of urbanization, a consistent thermal comfort zone could be maintained indoors, causing even further disconnection from daily and seasonal outdoor climate fluctuations. Nonetheless, it is important to address the current questions related to seasonality of HCoV in light of the COVID-19 pandemic. The apparent seasonality of HCoV across the globe suggests that this phenomenon might be mined to produce improved understanding of transmission of COVID-19 and improve public health intervention.’
https://academic.oup.com/ofid/article/7/11/ofaa443/5929649
‘Societal changes…urbanisation…..’ Obvious stuff really
And the problem with a closed mind? It misses opportunities:
‘apparent seasonality…..mined to produce improved understanding’
That is why Mr Young is well on the way to becoming a National Treasure, a great deal more illustrious than one of those tawdry, increasingly sordid, peerages, and Mr Snowdon is, well,………errrr……….not……..
Snowdon’s reaction is no different to the zombies who have shut their eyes, ears and brain. They can’t deal with nuance only soundbites. A friend is still convinced that children can spread Covid despite all the scientific papers and evidence from countries like Sweden and Belarus.
That’s the sort of mindset we’re dealing with day in day out. As I’ve said I’ve give up as trying to reason with this lot is like trying to get blood out of a stone.