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by Will Jones
12 February 2021 4:17 AM

Another Government U-Turn: Vaccine Passports on the Way

Sky News reports that today Ministers will discuss a Cabinet Office proposal to introduce vaccine and testing certificates for future international travel.

Responsibilities have already been divided up between government departments to look at the idea. If approved, the Department for Transport will be told to draw up plans for a certificate infrastructure. And the NHS will be told to prepare to let people access their vaccine status when preparing for international travel.

“Formal engagement” with other countries and international organisations will also begin, led by the Cabinet Office. The Foreign Office, meanwhile, will help design the international certificate system.

Sky News has been told Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab has signed off on the proposal ahead of a meeting with other cabinet ministers tomorrow. A government insider stressed there is “nervousness” about when such a system will even be announced publicly, let alone rolled out for use.

A briefing paper prepared ahead of the COVID operations meeting tomorrow and seen by Sky News said: “We should not set even speculative timelines on when this may change border measures.” The policy will not be implemented until there is “sufficient scientific evidence” from the Government’s advisory group known as SAGE on the effects of vaccine and testing certificates.

A Government spokesperson did not deny the plan, telling Sky News: “The UK Government, like most nations, wants to open up international travel in a responsible safe and fair manner and we continue to be guided by the science. We want to ensure there is an internationally recognised approach to enable travel and are working closely with international partners to do so.”

The Government has previously denied there were plans for vaccine passports. Which made it highly suspicious that £450,000 worth of Government grants were given to eight schemes focused on developing digital immunity documentation. Lara Prendergast in the Spectator takes a closer look at what is going on. She finds an idea gaining traction internationally.

The Prime Minister of Greece, whose economy depends on holidaymakers, has proposed a system of vaccine passports, a global ID card scheme which identifies the vaccinated. His logic is simple and compelling: vaccines speed up the return to normal life. A system of immunisation passports could get us flying again. He’d like the EU to oversee it.

Denmark will start issuing vaccine passports this month, followed by Sweden, where identity cards and ‘personal numbers’ are already ubiquitous. Israel has introduced a ‘green pass’ for those who can prove their immunity status, which grants them access to shopping centres, gyms and museums. Joe Biden has asked for an evaluation of a vaccine ID scheme for Americans. Spain, Italy, Cyprus and Malta – all desperate to revive tourism – are in favour of vaccine passports. All they need is for other governments to give them the go-ahead.

But the application of vaccine passports will inevitably extend far beyond holidays. The safety-first mentality could spread into almost every area of modern life. One of the most appalling tragedies of the pandemic was the failure to protect the elderly in care homes. There’s a clear moral case for those who work with the elderly to be able to prove they’ve been vaccinated. Hospitals can make the same argument. But convincing proof can only be issued by the NHS – or, rather, the Government. Without its backing, a vaccine passport system will never get off the ground. When it does, there’s no telling where it will lead.

It would likely start with holidays. But where would it stop?

At first, it would just be a glorified doctor’s note, to help you get on that longed-for flight to Greece. Later, it could exist to “reassure” your employer. The concern is that before long your freedom to move, to work, to do anything beyond sitting in your house may depend on whether or not you have had the latest Covid vaccine (be it Oxford, Pfizer, Moderna or another). The vaccine will give you more than just the prospect of immunity; it will grant you immuno-privilege. Freedom could be determined by the characteristics of your blood: good blood and bad blood.

Polls say that about 85% of British adults are “likely” to take up the offer of a jab, but 15% have concerns. People who can’t have a vaccine for medical reasons might be granted an exemption. But will the wishes of others be taken into consideration, their rights protected, their religious views respected, if vaccine documentation is brought in? Inevitably it will be those already on the edges of society – people who often avoid contact with the authorities – who are pushed out further by the need to prove their immunological status. Vaccine refuseniks, according to Zahawi, “skew heavily towards BAME communities” which raises the prospect of vaccine passports deepening racial divisions – particularly if the Government decides to grant certain exemptions.

Right now, debate has been muted. Who wants to be accused of being ‘anti-vax’ or told that they are putting lives at risk? Meanwhile, the technology continues to develop at pace. Systems that we willingly use to document every moment of our lives are now being commandeered to keep track of our health status. Covid results are sent by text message. An NHS app can ‘ping’ us with an instruction to self-isolate.

We don’t even have to imagine where this might lead: we need only look at China. Just as it pioneered lockdown, it is now blazing ahead with digital identification. A health colour code exists: green allows a person to move around freely, enter offices and shops, and take public transport. Yellow or red will deny them entry. The code is based on location data taken from individuals’ phones, as well as self-reported information. Data is also shared with the police. “We need to further harmonise policies and standards and establish ‘fast tracks’ to facilitate the orderly flow of people,” said President Xi Jinping, as he called for a “global mechanism” to enable international travel. That must be music to Blair’s ears.

Anyone who considers such systems sinister and authoritarian may soon find themselves in a vanishingly small minority. A recent Bristol University study found that almost two thirds of the British population are in favour of immunity passports, making them almost as popular as lockdown. Just 20% were strongly opposed: a figure that Professor Stephan Lewandowsky, who conducted the study, described as “surprisingly low”, suggesting greater public acceptance of “privacy-encroaching technologies”. Maybe we’re not actually that far behind China, despite what we like to tell ourselves about our old-fashioned love of liberty.

Worth reading in full.

Imperial College Modelling Falsely Assumes No Seasonality to COVID-19

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Is this the source of Neil Ferguson’s model assumptions? (Credit: Miriam Elia)

We’re publishing an original piece today by Glen Bishop, a Lockdown Sceptics reader and maths student at Nottingham University. Fresh-faced and youthful he may be, but he spotted a serious flaw in Imperial College’s coronavirus modelling that appears to have escaped the learned professors: it gives no regard to how the spread of Covid is affected by the seasons. He writes:

How likely is it that there is going to be a summer surge in SARS-CoV-2, a surge where hospitals have similar numbers of coronavirus admissions to what they saw in January? Pretty unlikely, I would have guessed. But doing the rounds in the news was a paper by the Imperial College modelling team projecting just that. It predicts, as a mid-range scenario, 130,000 more deaths, with a catastrophic summer surge even if restrictions are lifted at the current snail’s pace and the vaccination programme goes well, at two million doses per week from February.

As a maths student at Nottingham University, I have been reading through some of the modelling done for SAGE recently. Bad modelling at the beginning of a pandemic, particularly with a communist country withholding or obscuring crucial data, is understandable. What I did not understand was how predictions of scenarios worse than have occurred anywhere in the world keep being predicted for the UK.

On reading the paper, I realised they are assuming there is absolutely no seasonality to SARS-CoV-2. This is fundamentally wrong. They are attributing all the reduction in R-value last spring to non-pharmaceutical interventions (NPIs) and none to seasonality, leading to assumptions that the base R-value in July will be the same as it was in January. This seemed crazy. It goes against the last century of knowledge on respiratory diseases and human coronaviruses. It also goes against the patterns shown in the real-world data from the last 12 months, in both the southern hemisphere and the northern hemisphere.

I emailed the Imperial researchers to verify that I wasn’t mistaken, and this was the assumption and if so to find their justification for it. It was indeed the case and I received this paper as justification.

Now the first problem with that paper is that it was published in August, so all the data from the last six months, which I think anyone would agree shows significant seasonality, has not been included. In the moving picture of a pandemic, this is old science. Secondly, it seems more of a political commentary on the consequences of what the virus being seasonal would mean for American politics, rather than a purely scientific paper. It cautions the reader to look out for “bad faith politics”, the example it gives being “economic interests driving reopening or non-intervention”. Comments asserting that people wanting to address the fact that people are losing their livelihoods are engaging in “bad faith politics” have no place in an objective scientific paper. The paper also unfavourably includes comments by the President of Brazil and President Trump, as they mentioned seasonality could help reduce viral spread come summer. One ought not to be able to guess a scientist’s political leanings from a paper they write. It seems in some way that this paper was written as a political reaction to Trump mentioning something his advisers will have told him about seasonality.

Worth reading in full.

Lose Weight, Stay Healthy, Protect the NHS

Lockdown Sceptics reader Matthew Brittain has an idea of how to get the Government to stop obsessing about Covid – give it something else to obsess about.

According to a recent report summarised in the Guardian, excess fat is responsible for 23% of deaths, far more than the number of deaths with Covid.

Given the precedent of the lockdown, isn’t it now time to issue rationing cards to all those considered overweight?

Surely, this would be less of an infringement on the freedoms of the overweight than forcing them to stay indoors, parted from their nearest and dearest, unable to work, be properly educated, protest or enjoy a healthy cultural life. Moreover, it would be targeted, meaning that the economic effects on the nation would be relatively tiny.

Some might argue that such an intervention would be ineffective, but to me this indicates a lack of concern for the wellbeing of the overweight as if their lives somehow didn’t matter. In any case, eye-watering prison sentences could be used to deter others from dealing calories to the unentitled.

Those of a more liberal bent might suggest that it is the right of the overweight to make their own choices about their bodies, but what then about the NHS? If we do have another winter crisis, the NHS could be pushed over the edge by the overweight.

Focus on the overweight would offer a displacement for the life-wrecking instincts of Government and their advisors. Maybe, in the end, they just need to be given something new to meddle in; a set of lives that can be theirs to ruin and degrade.

No, “Double Masking” Is Not the Answer

There follows a guest post by Jonathan Barr.

There are a number of reports floating around about the studies by the US Centre for Disease Control suggesting there may be great benefits in double-masking.

They need to add: “for dummies”.

The study, which was carried out in January, consisted of:

Experimental simulations using pliable elastomeric source and receiver headforms to assess the extent to which two modifications to medical procedure masks 1) wearing a cloth mask over a medical procedure mask (double masking) and 2) knotting the ear loops of a medical procedure masks where they attach to the mask’s edges and then tucking in and flattening the extra material close to the face) could improve the fit of these masks and reduce the receiver’s exposure to an aerosol of simulated respiratory droplet particles of the size considered most important for transmitting SARS-CoV-2.

In the course of their experiments, which were carried out in “a chamber approximately 10 ft (3.1 m) long by 10ft wide by 7ft high”  they played around with various combinations of masks, double masks and knotted masks and they found:

When the source and receiver were both fitted with double masks or knotted and tucked masks, the cumulative exposure of the receiver was reduced 96.4% and 95.9%, respectively.

But so what? There were no humans involved in this so it can hardly form the basis for a mandate or even a recommendation regarding mask-wearing in real life.

Indeed, the discussion section of the study points up one of the reasons that ubiquitous masks may not be very effective.

These laboratory-based experiments highlight the impor­tance of good fit to maximize overall mask performance. Medical procedure masks are intended to provide source control (e.g. maintain the sterility of a surgical field) and to block splashes. The extent to which they reduce exhalation and inhalation of particles in the aerosol size range varies substantially, in part because air can leak around their edges, especially through the side gaps.

Hardly a bombshell discovery. We know that fit is important for masks to be effective and the fact that people aren’t going to pay much heed to it when they mask up for school, shops or public transport has been pointed out by sceptics before. The study goes on to admit certain limitations in the findings, including their lack of bearing on real life.

First, these experiments were conducted with one type of medical procedure mask and one type of cloth mask among the many choices that are commercially available and were intended to provide data about their relative performance in a controlled setting. The findings [should not be] interpreted as being representative of the effectiveness of these masks when worn in real-world settings.

And a couple of the points on which I think we might all agree:

These findings might not be generalisable to children because of their smaller size or to men with beards and other facial hair, which interfere with fit.

Although use of double masking or knotting and tucking are two of many options that can optimize fit and enhance mask performance for source control and for wearer protection, double masking might impede breathing or obstruct peripheral vision for some wearers, and knotting and tucking can change the shape of the mask such that it no longer covers fully both the nose and the mouth of persons with larger faces.

Naturally, these awkward discussion points have not stopped numerous media outlets going big on the value of the medical and cloth mask combo. Here, for instance is the how-to guide from Wired:

Start with a disposable medical or N95 mask underneath. Then add a cloth mask over the top. As with any mask you wear, the most important thing is making sure both masks have a proper fit. Both masks should be covering both your nose and mouth. Ideally, the inner medical mask will have a nose wire to make a proper seal against your nose, and the cloth mask will press the inner mask closer to your face and ensure a tighter fit.

Try blowing out a big breath while you feel around the edges of the mask stack. If any of your hot air is escaping, adjust the mask until there’s a sealed fit all around the sides. Try to use a mask with a nose wire, as they do a much better job of forming a seal around your nose and mouth.

Can anyone imagine someone actually doing this before heading into Sainsburys? More to the point, has anyone remembered that it is actually important for air to pass in and out of one’s nose and mouth, something that a “sealed fit” of multiple masks is likely to impede?

Murder by Misinformation

Janet Menage, a retired GP in Wales, had a scorching letter published in the BMJ last week. We reproduce it in full below.

Dear Editor,

History is littered with examples of the atrocities which ensue when doctors abandon their traditional principles and judgement in favour of unquestioning subservience to government diktat – medical involvement in torture, human experimentation and psychiatric punishment of political dissidents being familiar examples.

Abbasi takes as axiomatic that there was no prior immunity in the population, that lockdowns are effective, that computer modelling is realistic, that statistics have been accurate and that WHO statements are reliable. All of these parameters have been widely challenged by knowledgeable and conscientious researchers whose findings were often disregarded, censored or vilified.

From a medical perspective, it was clear early on in the crisis that disregarding clinical acumen in favour of blind obedience to abnormal ventilation measures, reliance on an unsuitable laboratory test for diagnosis and management, and abandoning the duty of care to elderly hospitalised patients and those awaiting diagnosis and treatment of serious diseases, would create severe problems down the line.

Doctors who had empirically found effective pharmaceutical remedies and preventative treatments were ignored, or worse, denigrated or silenced. Information regarding helpful dietary supplements was suppressed.

This was further compounded by rule-changes to death certification, coroners’ instructions, autopsy guidelines, DNR notices and the cruel social isolation policy enforcement regarding family visits to the sick and dying.

When medical professionals allow themselves to be manipulated by corrupt politicians and influenced by media propaganda instead of being guided by their own ethical principles and common sense based on decades of clinical experience, the outlook becomes very bleak indeed.

Historically, public respect for and trust in doctors has exceeded that awarded to politicians. The unquestioning capitulation of medicine to an authoritarian executive and predatory corporate power may have undermined the doctor-patient relationship for a generation.

The Great Debate

Peter Hitchens and Dan Hodges faced off against each other in a talkRADIO debate about lockdown hosted by Mike Graham. Quite entertaining, although Peter clearly did more preparation than Dan who was winging it throughout. Dan’s argument against sceptics amounts to this: some sceptics have got some things wrong over the past 12 months, therefore everything sceptics say should be disregarded. As Peter points out, people on both sides of this debate have got things wrong, but most of us have struggled honestly to get things right and it would be odd to dismiss one side’s arguments in this debate because they’ve got some things wrong and not the other. Worth watching if you have an hour to spare. We need more debates like this.

Poetry Corner

In What Can I Hope?
by Jonny Peppiatt

With all this talk of ‘horizon’ and ‘hope’,
I wonder sometimes, ‘Did I miss the boat?’
What is it that has these people excited?
Should I see it? Or have I been blinded?
Whatever it is, whatever they see,
Whatever they think, I know they’re not me.
They’ll never know what it is that I fear,
They’ll never risk losing what it is I hold dear,
They’ll never see the world through my eyes,
They’ll never just sit at their desks and cry.

I envy them this, their blindness, their bliss,
Their freedom in hope, their faith in a wish.
I’d trade all I have for that faith and hope,
I’d give it away to look forward and know,
Know that tomorrow brings a brand-new day,
Know that tomorrow brings light, paves a way;
Paves a way to joy, to reason and worth,
To happiness, cheer, merriment, and mirth.
I envy their hope that all will be well,
But their hope alone does nothing to quell
My fears that I’ll be left nought but a shell,
Left here on my own, in my fears to dwell.

For my fears pave my way, keep me this way,
Keep me locked up, hidden, keep me dismayed.
I see no reason to hold onto hope,
I see no reason to look forward and know
That all will be better. How can that be so
When, time after time, I’ve nothing to show.
I’m down a job, a house, a lover, and friends,
I know I’ve support, but when does this end?
When can I look to, in what can I hope,
When all I see makes it harder to cope.

Round-up

  • “SAGE doomsters push back on easing lockdown any time soon: No10 advisers say Covid infections must fall from 750,000 to fewer than 10,000, the Rule of Six should stay for a YEAR and we could be wearing masks FOREVER” – Mail report on more cultish Zero Covid nonsense from the Government’s advisers
  • “Matt Hancock admits he’s booked summer holiday” – The Mirror reports on the chaos in Government as Ministers struggled to keep up with their own ever-changing messaging and get the story straight
  • “School return date must be ‘signed in blood’, Boris Johnson told” – The Covid Recovery Group flexes its muscles, reports the Telegraph
  • “Scientists should be ‘the last people running society’, claims pathologist” – HART member Dr John Lee delivers a cracking turn on the Telegraph‘s Planet Normal podcast with Allison Pearson and Liam Halligan
  • “I’m living in a country that won’t let me out” – Lionel Shriver in the Spectator on the craziness of closing borders indefinitely, and on grounds – fear of vaccine-escaping variants – that will never expire
  • “220,000 people wait more than a year for NHS hospital treatment” – This compares to just 1,500 a year earlier, a 150-fold increase, reports the Times
  • “It would be a mistake to put power hungry Matt Hancock in charge of top-down NHS reforms” – Ross Clark in the Telegraph discerns a tyrant in the making: “Beneath his bland exterior lies a natural authoritarian who trusts only his own judgement on what is good for us”
  • “Full Level 5 restrictions in place until after Easter but schools and construction likely to reopen” – Independent.ie reports that the Irish lockdown is set to be extended for a further six weeks till at least April 12th
  • “An Alternate Response to the Lockdowns” – A Christian anti-lockdown viewpoint from the Revd Paul Little on Rebel Alliance Media
  • “Supporting the vulnerable during lockdown” – The Government is currently inviting evidence for an inquiry into support for the vulnerable during lockdown, closing Monday February 15th at 6pm. Respond here
  • “Risk of death from COVID-19 3.5 times higher than from flu” – A new study published in Canadian Medical Association Journal broadly confirms the IFR found by John Ioannidis (worth noting that pandemic influenza has a higher IFR than endemic influenza)
  • “In first, Israeli study indicates post-COVID immunity stays when antibodies fade” – Times of Israel reports on a study that confirms lasting immunity after antibodies have faded: “Our study points to continued protection, whether or not antibodies are detectable”
  • “Urgent Message From Prof. Sucharit Bhakdi – What Might Go Wrong With The Vaccine?” – The renowned virologist explains why some people may have a strong reaction to the mRNA vaccines
  • “Critics of the 10-year Covid jail sentence are right, but out of touch” – Ross Clark in the Spectator on the disturbing YouGov poll showing that more than half of all adults think that a 10-year jail sentence for ‘porkies about Portugal’ is “about right”, and 13% think it “doesn’t go far enough”. So 15 years? 20 years? Life without parole?
  • “A Dangerous Crank” – Bruce Wallace writes on Left Lockdown Sceptics about the smearing of Professor Carl Heneghan by Neil O’Brien MP and others
  • “Facebook censors award-winning journalist for criticising the WHO” – Freddie Sayers on UnHerd on the problem when social media companies decide to censor views that don’t conform to those of a China-friendly international body. A representative of Facebook has now tweeted that this “fact check” was a “mistake”, which is one way of backing down
  • “Lockdowns in China (2021)” – The Swiss Doctor has gathered together tweets showing the disturbing reality of the current lockdowns in China, with building doors being welded shut and people inside crying for food and jumping out of the window to their death
  • “Unlocked with Professor Robert Dingwall” – In the latest episode of the Unlocked podcast, Laura Dodsworth speaks to sociologist and SAGE member Robert Dingwall about the growing calls for Zero Covid
  • “Escape from Lockdown: Episode 30 – Oliver Smith” – In the latest episode of the podcast, Alex McCarron talks to the Telegraph‘s Digital Travel Editor about what travel will look like in the age of Covid
  • “Lockdown Policies: Doing More Harm Than Good?” – Psychologist Oliver Robinson will be speaking this Saturday at 4-6pm on “the wider implications of lockdown policies on mental health and the central role of the immune system in a more systemic understanding of the crisis”. Sign up here
  • “Masking: A Careful Review of the Evidence” – Paul E. Alexander on the AIER blog with a new summary of the evidence that face masks do not protect the wearer or prevent transmission of COVID-19
  • “Take Action” – Time for Recovery’s guide to getting stuck in
  • “We are all Maoists now” – For many of the West’s leaders, the Beijing model of enlightened autocracy is looking increasingly appealing says Alex Story in the Critic

Theme Tunes Suggested by Readers

Six today: “Madness” by Muse, “Gotta Get Away” by The Rolling Stones, “Wasted Years” by Iron Maiden, “I can’t wait” by Nu Shooz, “Oh freedom!” by Joan Baez and “She Blinded Me With Science” by Thomas Dolby.

Love in the Time of Covid

We have created some Lockdown Sceptics Forums, including a dating forum called “Love in a Covid Climate” that has attracted a bit of attention. We have a team of moderators in place to remove spam and deal with the trolls, but sometimes it takes a little while so please bear with us. You have to register to use the Forums as well as post comments below the line, but that should just be a one-time thing. Any problems, email Lockdown Sceptics here.

Stop Press: The Mail reports that two women were caught by police “‘fornicating in car on Dartmoor at 2am in -3C temperatures in breach of Covid rules”. And I thought it was permitted to meet up with one other person for exercise?

Sharing Stories

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Woke Gobbledegook

We’ve decided to create a permanent slot down here for woke gobbledegook. Today, Andrew Doyle in spiked sets the record straight about the origins of the word “woke” – the latest focus of woke historical revisionism.

No word seems to generate more conversations at cross purposes than ‘woke’, whose definition varies depending on who is using it at any given time. For the various black civil-rights activists of the 20th century it signified an alertness to injustice, particularly racism. This usage became popularised by the singer Erykah Badu in her 2008 song “Master Teacher (Stay Woke)”, and was taken up by the Black Lives Matter movement in 2013. Soon after, the term was co-opted by practitioners of the new ‘social justice’ ideology, and for a few years was a popular form of self-identification. We became accustomed to headlines in the Guardian such as “Can a woke makeover win Barbie and Monopoly new fans?” and “My search for Mr Woke: a dating diary“. In the US, articles such as “Keeping your classroom woke“, “Becoming woke in the wake of ‘Me Too'”and “The woke black person’s guide to talking about oppression with family” became commonplace.

Inevitably, those who took a critical stance on these identitarian perspectives would describe their proponents as ‘woke’. It made sense, given that this is how they were describing themselves. Before long, commentators who had once happily embraced the ‘woke’ label became dismayed at how their opponents were using it to criticise or mock them, and so they pretended that the word had been concocted by the right as a slur. Afua Hirsch exemplified this kind of gaslighting in the Guardian when she claimed that anyone using the word was “likely to be a right-wing culture warrior angry at a phenomenon that lives mainly in their imagination”. Not all of her colleagues received the memo, which is why a Guardian writer recently described the Saved by the Bell reboot as “a woke reimagining” and another asked “why are some Americans woke online but not in real life?”

This revisionist strategy is unlikely to succeed, given that the proposition that identitarian writers did not commonly self-define as ‘woke’ can be easily disproved with the most cursory of internet searches. When Comedy Awards director Nica Burns launched the 2018 Edinburgh Festival Fringe by declaring that she was “looking forward to comedy’s future in the woke world”, she was not roundly lambasted for using a term that was merely “a right-wing slur”. When Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey wore a “#StayWoke” t-shirt on stage at the 2016 ReCode conference, nobody suggested that he was guilty of disseminating right-wing propaganda. These people were woke, and proud of it.

Worth reading in full.

Stop Press: The New York Post invites us to “Read the column the New York Times didn’t want you to read“. It’s a piece by NYT columnist Bret Stephens criticising the rationale behind the forced removal of NYT reporter Donald J. McNeil, spiked by publisher A.G. Sulzberger.

“Mask Exempt” Lanyards

“Safe & Sanitized” by Jordan Henderson (cropped)

We’ve created a one-stop shop down here for people who want to obtain a “Mask Exempt” lanyard/card – because wearing a mask causes them “severe distress”, for instance. You can print out and laminate a fairly standard one for free here and the Government has instructions on how to download an official “Mask Exempt” notice to put on your phone here. And if you feel obliged to wear a mask but want to signal your disapproval of having to do so, you can get a “sexy world” mask with the Swedish flag on it here.

A reader has started a website that contains some useful guidance about how you can claim legal exemption. Another reader has created an Android app which displays “I am exempt from wearing a face mask” on your phone. Only 99p.

If you’re a shop owner and you want to let your customers know you will not be insisting on face masks or asking them what their reasons for exemption are, you can download a friendly sign to stick in your window here.

And here’s an excellent piece about the ineffectiveness of masks by a Roger W. Koops, who has a doctorate in organic chemistry. See also the Swiss Doctor’s thorough review of the scientific evidence here and Prof Carl Heneghan and Dr Tom Jefferson’s Spectator article about the Danish mask study here.

Stop Press: Science News reports on a new study that finds “long term mask use breeds microbes that infiltrate the lungs and contribute to advanced stage lung cancer”.

The Great Barrington Declaration

Professor Martin Kulldorff, Professor Sunetra Gupta and Professor Jay Bhattacharya

The Great Barrington Declaration, a petition started by Professor Martin Kulldorff, Professor Sunetra Gupta and Professor Jay Bhattacharya calling for a strategy of “Focused Protection” (protect the elderly and the vulnerable and let everyone else get on with life), was launched in October and the lockdown zealots have been doing their best to discredit it ever since. If you googled it a week after launch, the top hits were three smear pieces from the Guardian, including: “Herd immunity letter signed by fake experts including ‘Dr Johnny Bananas’.” (Freddie Sayers at UnHerd warned us about this the day before it appeared.) On the bright side, Google UK has stopped shadow banning it, so the actual Declaration now tops the search results – and Toby’s Spectator piece about the attempt to suppress it is among the top hits – although discussion of it has been censored by Reddit. In February, Facebook deleted the GBD’s page because it “goes against our community standards”. The reason the zealots hate it, of course, is that it gives the lie to their claim that “the science” only supports their strategy. These three scientists are every bit as eminent – more eminent – than the pro-lockdown fanatics so expect no let up in the attacks. (Wikipedia has also done a smear job.)

You can find it here. Please sign it. Now over three quarters of a million signatures.

Update: The authors of the GBD have expanded the FAQs to deal with some of the arguments and smears that have been made against their proposal. Worth reading in full.

Update 2: Many of the signatories of the Great Barrington Declaration are involved with new UK anti-lockdown campaign Recovery. Find out more and join here.

Update 3: You can watch Sunetra Gupta set out the case for “Focused Protection” here and Jay Bhattacharya make it here.

Update 4: The three GBD authors plus Prof Carl Heneghan of CEBM have launched a new website collateralglobal.org, “a global repository for research into the collateral effects of the COVID-19 lockdown measures”. Follow Collateral Global on Twitter here. Sign up to the newsletter here.

Judicial Reviews Against the Government

There are now so many legal cases being brought against the Government and its ministers we thought we’d include them all in one place down here.

The Simon Dolan case has now reached the end of the road. The current lead case is the Robin Tilbrook case which challenges whether the Lockdown Regulations are constitutional. You can read about that and contribute here. UPDATE: The JR was denied permission to proceed yesterday, though they have not given up yet.

Then there’s John’s Campaign which is focused specifically on care homes. Find out more about that here.

There’s the GoodLawProject and Runnymede Trust’s Judicial Review of the Government’s award of lucrative PPE contracts to various private companies. You can find out more about that here and contribute to the crowdfunder here.

Scottish Church leaders from a range of Christian denominations have launched legal action, supported by the Christian Legal Centre against the Scottish Government’s attempt to close churches in Scotland  for the first time since the the Stuart kings in the 17th century. The church leaders emphasised it is a disproportionate step, and one which has serious implications for freedom of religion.”  Further information available here.

There’s the class action lawsuit being brought by Dr Reiner Fuellmich and his team in various countries against “the manufacturers and sellers of the defective product, PCR tests”. Dr Fuellmich explains the lawsuit in this video. Dr Fuellmich has also served cease and desist papers on Professor Christian Drosten, co-author of the Corman-Drosten paper which was the first and WHO-recommended PCR protocol for detection of SARS-CoV-2. That paper, which was pivotal to the roll out of mass PCR testing, was submitted to the journal Eurosurveillance on January 21st and accepted following peer review on January 22nd. The paper has been critically reviewed here by Pieter Borger and colleagues, who also submitted a retraction request, which was rejected in February.

And last but not least there was the Free Speech Union‘s challenge to Ofcom over its ‘coronavirus guidance’. A High Court judge refused permission for the FSU’s judicial review on December 9th and the FSU has decided not to appeal the decision because Ofcom has conceded most of the points it was making. Check here for details.

Samaritans

If you are struggling to cope, please call Samaritans for free on 116 123 (UK and ROI), email jo@samaritans.org or visit the Samaritans website to find details of your nearest branch. Samaritans is available round the clock, every single day of the year, providing a safe place for anyone struggling to cope, whoever they are, however they feel, whatever life has done to them.

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Ossettian
Ossettian
5 years ago

I nornally read the comments first but as there aren’t any I’ll have to go straight ATL.

At least it is Will.

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popo says
popo says
5 years ago
Reply to  Ossettian

Brave man!

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Lockdown Sceptic
Lockdown Sceptic
5 years ago
Reply to  popo says

It’s high time Europe’s lockdown rebellion spread to Britain

Sonia Elijah
February 12, 2021
https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/its-high-time-europes-lockdown-rebellion-spread-to-britain/

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Waldorf
Waldorf
5 years ago
Reply to  Lockdown Sceptic

The British do not benefit from their relative placidity, that’s for sure.

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Lockdown Sceptic
Lockdown Sceptic
5 years ago
Reply to  popo says

A lesson in oppression for the mask generation
By
Sophie Birtles
February 12, 2021
https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/a-lesson-in-oppression-for-the-mask-generation/

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Annie
Annie
5 years ago
Reply to  Lockdown Sceptic

Horrible.

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Lockdown Sceptic
Lockdown Sceptic
5 years ago
Reply to  popo says

Uk Police Catch Saucy Couple Doing A Bit Of Dartmoor Dogging
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AutekwKhAGU&list=WL&index=31

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rockoman
rockoman
5 years ago
Reply to  Ossettian

When there’s a Will, there’s a way.

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Dermot McClatchey
Dermot McClatchey
5 years ago
Reply to  rockoman

Will you give it a rest?
Or: where there’s a will there’s a family argument.
Take which you will.

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Lockdown Sceptic
Lockdown Sceptic
5 years ago
Reply to  Dermot McClatchey

Michael Gove, the Brexit betrayer
By
Timothy Bradshaw
February 12, 2021
https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/michael-gove-the-brexit-betrayer/

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Dermot McClatchey
Dermot McClatchey
5 years ago
Reply to  Ossettian

Let me know if there’s anything of interest up there- I haven’t looked ATL for three days now.

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Cheezilla
Cheezilla
5 years ago
Reply to  Dermot McClatchey

Yes. Today’s has some good critique.

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Dermot McClatchey
Dermot McClatchey
5 years ago
Reply to  Cheezilla

Thanks, CZ!

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Binra
Binra
5 years ago
Reply to  Cheezilla

If it isn’t the same critiques as have been reiterated – or rather coming from the same framed narrative reaction – then I missed it. For anyone new LDS may of course be a stepping stone. But a stepping stone is not a destination. To be fair, ATL is expressly a limited hangout in that from the outset it was not going to allow crackpot theories. Which provided a kettle within which to talk about covid like we might talk about football or the weather. As I see covid as being a many levelled intent to lockdown consciousness as well as freedom of movement or business, the degradation and redefining of the mind as dispossessed but ‘happy’ or reprogrammed to system compliance as the new normal for ‘social virtue’, and etc, I feel the most important defence or resilience to the mind-virus is the re-education and development of consciousness from a new place, as a mind renewed and not as a reset to the same old control but ratcheted up as biosecured, carbon assets, under mainstreamed groupthink enforced by robots. There was a complaint of the replacement of clinical judgement by medical mandates. A bit late! The replacement of doctoring by… Read more »

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Silke David
Silke David
5 years ago
Reply to  Ossettian

Although I would have liked to see some of the stuff which is at the bottom featured as a leading article instead of just copying from MSM.

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Lockdown Sceptic
Lockdown Sceptic
5 years ago
Reply to  Ossettian

Trump’s Lawyer Uses Video Montage of Dems to Absolutely DESTROY Their Case
BlazeTV
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdwR4s_3CQI
Trump’s lawyer David Schoen just played a DEVASTATING video montage of Democrats and their incitements of violence which blows apart their entire impeachment case. WATCH Trump Lawyer EXPOSE Dems for playing manipulated video of Capitol Rio

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TheClone
TheClone
5 years ago

The real conspiracy theorists believe that the government cares about them, the media would never mislead or lie to them and the pharmaceutical industry that makes billions off sickness wants to cure them.

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jonathan Palmer
jonathan Palmer
5 years ago
Reply to  TheClone

They are not stupid but evil.its important to make that distinction.

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Binra
Binra
5 years ago
Reply to  jonathan Palmer

We would be wise to recognise that evil is consequence NOT a true cause. The cause of evil is the sin of placing self-illusion above real relationship. This error is correctable. But it runs as a mindtrap. Sin is not self imaginings as such, but of giving them priority over truth, such as to usurp the mind that MUST then deny and attack truth as threat to its ‘self-invested illusion’. Threats are seen as evils – even if they are a genuine feedback, such as to be denied and sacrificed for the ‘survival of the self-illusion or system that proceeds from it. Another means by which evil comes in is the wish to generate meanings and narratives to divert away from self-exposure so as to divert from the obvious denial of truth and lack of substance in all kinds of tricks. The ‘necessary evil’ or the ‘noble lie’ is the foundation of doublethink or masked self contradiction as a basis for a mind and a world of such mindset. It generally posits as the lesser of evils when set against feared or modelled outcomes. The mind can model virtual outcomes without computers, but taking the modelled outcome as a fact… Read more »

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Rowan
Rowan
5 years ago
Reply to  Binra

Nothing remotely noble about what they are up to. They want the planet for themselves and we are in the way. The vaccines are here to fix that.

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jonathan Palmer
jonathan Palmer
5 years ago
Reply to  jonathan Palmer

Rushing out an experimental vaccine ,which they know is killing people,is evil in my book

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Dermot McClatchey
Dermot McClatchey
5 years ago
Reply to  TheClone

Think it might have been Sergey Brin who said he’d never been able to write a patch for stupidity.

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Rowan
Rowan
5 years ago
Reply to  TheClone

Calling the government stupid is letting it off the hook.

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J4mes
J4mes
5 years ago
Reply to  Rowan

This hoax has proven beyond doubt the stupidity of the public has reached dangerously high levels.

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Rowan
Rowan
5 years ago
Reply to  J4mes

Yes, the high level of public support for the highly malevolent UK government would strongly support that view.

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RickH
RickH
5 years ago
Reply to  Rowan

Electing this lot in the first place had already made the point.

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Waldorf
Waldorf
5 years ago
Reply to  RickH

After a lot of scare propaganda about Corbyn which gave us Johnson, we now get scare propaganda about the new Black Death…

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Binra
Binra
5 years ago
Reply to  Rowan

I focus more on buying into the circus of diversion from the underlying regulatory capture. Vengeance doesn’t correct error to restore the conditions for live to flower and thrive or in a truly living sense, survive. They are groomed as media fronts to face out the leveraging that is orchestrated in private and rubber stamped for public consumption. Or indeed predation upon the public as a result of Private ‘partnering’ (sic). By all means uphold the law that represents and serves the sovereignty of the common people. I don’t know if rehabilitation is possible, there has to be a willingness. An addict has to bottom out in some way that gives them their life back against all hope or expectation, and as a basis to live from a renewed sense of life and purpose, one step at a time. I appreciate that people seek to make sense within what they know, but the nature of current events is to reveal that all we thought we knew was wrong or at the least fundamentally questionable. Perhaps the incoming technocratic saviours will appeal to your desire to damn and destroy their proxies along with what’s left of any social and parliamentary structure for… Read more »

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Van Allen
Van Allen
5 years ago
Reply to  TheClone

Yes I’m pretty jealous of those living in LaLa land with a loving caring Government and freedom just around the corner.

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Rowan
Rowan
5 years ago
Reply to  Van Allen

Somewhere over the rainbow.

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bebophaircut
bebophaircut
5 years ago
Reply to  Van Allen

Freedom is always just around the corner. So is enslavement.

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Binra
Binra
5 years ago
Reply to  bebophaircut

Slaves live the hope that freedom is coming.
A dissociation from present experience is set in past and future.
True presence is not a narrative identity.
Or narrative stamped on the face of the present.
Jealousy and envy operate from self-lack – which is the same as the above.
These are reintegrative or ‘spiritual’ considerations.
As an undoing or healing of the dissociative and segregative – that becomes disintegrity and destructive to the whole.
Where is our freedom right here and now?
Does the reader go to the head or the heart for answer?

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albert hall
albert hall
5 years ago
Reply to  TheClone

Not to mention a very large part of the population

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Rich
Rich
5 years ago

Good morning all! Hoping to spread some hope and peace to you all…

Let’s keep our spirits up and avoid the mental pitfall of boundless pessimism. It’s a human tendency for us to dwell too much in the present, and feel that things will continue as they are, but they never do! As unprecedented as these lockdowns are in their severity and scope, this is far from the first time in history that a new pathogen has been met with draconian measures. There is a predictable “new pathogen” response cycle that societies tend to go through, and we will most definitely come out of this cycle just like we did all the others. Hopefully this time we will finally learn the lesson of liberty that this educational episode can teach us.

Today I found this interview with Jeffrey Tucker (Great Barrington Declaration fame) to be very uplifting – his positivity and historical knowledge is amazing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzYLIJ3nmEs

If you’d like to zone out for a bit, here’s a hopeful video I watched recently:
https://youtu.be/KsVW2BuLLKs

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Annie
Annie
5 years ago
Reply to  Rich

Hear hear. Wallowing in pessimism helps no one.

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katz
katz
5 years ago
Reply to  Annie

I think that’s untrue. Wallowing in pessimism helps governments, sage scientists and pharmaceutical companies.

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maggie may
maggie may
5 years ago
Reply to  Rich

Thank you for this. This morning reading the piece about vaccine passports, i have felt more demoralised than ever. i have already had a large chunk of the rest of my life removed by the government and it looks like another large chunk is going to go too, ie 2021, i don’t want the vaccine although i have now been invited to make an appointment, being of a certain age. Just hope i will not be prevented from doing anything enjoyable (which in my case is not a lot, i don’t ask for much!) in the future if i continue not to have a vaccine. But your post has given me some optimism again. Thanks

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Spikedee1
Spikedee1
5 years ago
Reply to  maggie may

Its hard. Just had this conversation with my wife. She wants to have the jab so she can “get back to normal and get on with her life,” but why would this government give you back your life? Its so easy for them. They know where you are and you’re not going anywhere. Can’t protest, can’t complain, can’t hurt them. Lovely! I think my wife just wants to go on holiday. But that will be awful, tests, masks, tests, more masks. Not really much of a holiday, then prison when I get home, sounds dreamy!

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lizzie81
lizzie81
5 years ago
Reply to  maggie may

I don’t think I will ever be able to leave the country again…😞 there is no way I am having a “vaccine”

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Pebbles
Pebbles
5 years ago
Reply to  Rich

Thanks Rich. It’s been a demoralizing news round up this morning.

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Binra
Binra
5 years ago
Reply to  Pebbles

The hope that ‘it will go away’ is the susceptibility to pitfalls of despair. Putting faith in externals is giving power away. If every time a liar lies, you see untruth, then you are not looking for truth from where it is not. Then you will see what is not being said and what is being revealed behind the attempt to conceal, not within a complex of deceits, but as the mask over hidden truths. Those fixated on external outcomes do not see or want or value truth except it serves the outcome. If you love life and live the loving, and this is true, then this is a foundation not to be abandoned for the fears that would rob you of it – so as to ‘sell it back to you’ inside a package of false premises for protection or profit. If we do not use adversity to connect at the heart, we give it the power to destroy our lives – even if the shell is left intact. Hope of change is surely not unfounded in a realm of always changing, but to see the true paths and opportunities calls for being truly present and alert – not… Read more »

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Teddy Edward
Teddy Edward
5 years ago

Somebody needs to throw the first stone.But who and when?.I’m through with idle chat and pondering this and that.Words require actions.For every action there is a reaction it’s our lives at stake here not our frail liberties.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
5 years ago

‘Another Government U-turn.
Vaccine Passports on the way’

The lockdown junta are boring in their predictably.

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TheClone
TheClone
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Show me your papers! Are you a second or third class citizen? I am the controller of the papers and so I am above all of you!

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jb12
jb12
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

It isn’t a U-turn, though. They lied in the first place: this was always the planand it won’t stop at trips abroad.

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stewart
stewart
5 years ago
Reply to  jb12

Very good point. The media isn’t even able to call out blatant government lies.

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Waldorf
Waldorf
5 years ago
Reply to  stewart

I notice the tabloids like The Sun try to be upbeat, The Grauniad in contrast likes to doom-monger.

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Silke David
Silke David
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

It sounds as if a lot of countries expect other countries will demand proof of vaccine so they prepare for it. That is what I understand Sweden’s official line is.
So, just like lockdown, everyone is copying everyone.

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LMS2
LMS2
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

“Manchester-based cybersecurity firm VST Enterprises has signed a deal with digital health company Circle Pass Enterprises (CPE) to create a digital health passport designed to “manage a safe return to work, life, and safe travel” after the Covid-19 coronavirus pandemic.

The two companies have partnered to create “the world’s most secure digital health passport”, known as Covi-pass, and according to VST Enterprises, are committed to working with governments and “major stakeholders” to deploy the technology.

CPE will ship the digital health passports to 15 countries around the world, including Italy, Portugal, France, Panama, India, the US, Canada, Sweden, Spain, South Africa, Mexico, United Arab Emirates and The Netherlands, with the goal of supplying 50 million digital health passports. The first passports will begin shipping from next week.

VST Enterprises’s VCode and VPlatform technologies will be integrated into the Covi-pass to ensure it is secure.”

11th May 2020….

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Elisabeth
Elisabeth
5 years ago
Reply to  LMS2

The globalist filth has been planning this for a while

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james007
james007
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

I think we should stop talking about u-turns. They imply that the Government was going in one direction with a purpose, only to change their mind.
For over a year now they haven’t had the faintest clue what to do about Covid-19. Without the technocrats telling them what do, they would have no ideas at all. Rather like Corporal Jones on Dad’s Army, they are running around screaming “don’t panic! Don’t panic!” Whilst thowing grenades in all directions.
They are like children, deluded into think they are great men of state.

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Elisabeth
Elisabeth
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

„East German government: @we have no Intention of building a Wall“

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jonathan Palmer
jonathan Palmer
5 years ago

Note to Will and Toby.It not a u turn when this has been the plan all along.
It’s called deception and they won’t just be for holidays,they will be needed to access normal life.Be a proper journalist and research the Chinese Social credit system.
Q codes,track and trace,temperature scans and masks are all just conditioning to get us to accepted the premise.

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jonathan Palmer
jonathan Palmer
5 years ago
Reply to  jonathan Palmer

Reply to myself.They did highlight China in the article.My apologises.This is the future they have planned for us.If anyone is in any doubt to the Governments malign intentions this should dispel it.
We have a small window in the summer to stop this before a critical mass of people have been vaccinated.

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kpaulsmith1463
kpaulsmith1463
5 years ago
Reply to  jonathan Palmer

…OR before a critical mass of people explode, as things reaching critical mass tend to do.

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Mr Taxpayer
Mr Taxpayer
5 years ago
Reply to  kpaulsmith1463

Agreed. Let’s hope for a hot Easter and May BAnk Holiday for a mass outbreak of “Enough is enough”. Never have I looked forward more to the prospects of huge crowds heading for beaches and tourist spots.

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Janette
Janette
5 years ago
Reply to  Mr Taxpayer

Hear hear

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katz
katz
5 years ago
Reply to  kpaulsmith1463

Yes, all empires fall and all despots meet their end. This happens throughout history.

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stewart
stewart
5 years ago
Reply to  katz

Tool 70 years in Russia.
The CCP reached 70 and going strong.

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sam s.j.
sam s.j.
5 years ago
Reply to  katz

history is very reassuring to me now and so many peopel here know so much about histroy i love reading the commenst thank you all

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Woden
Woden
5 years ago
Reply to  jonathan Palmer

Good sunny summer weather will help

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Rowan
Rowan
5 years ago
Reply to  Woden

But will it change a malevolent government, which is clearly working to the globalist depopulation agenda. This sold out government is in it far too deep to back off now and it will push this madness to the bitter end.

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Rowan
Rowan
5 years ago
Reply to  jonathan Palmer

Yes, vaccination in the key. They are so intent on injecting people with biological agents, which have nothing to do with disease prevention , that we can be absolutely certain that their intentions are totally malign. People who still fall for the government nonsense will deserve all they get, but of course they are dragging the rest of us along into the nightmare scenario.

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Pebbles
Pebbles
5 years ago
Reply to  jonathan Palmer

Thank you for saying it as it is. Since last year I have sent emails to Toby et all saying “look at the bigger picture”… they have a bigger plan. It’s a global-fascist coup d’état, not governmental incompetence. I wonder when, if ever, he will come round to that that the Chinese Control State was always the goal, depopulation via vaccines par for the course.

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Thomas_E
Thomas_E
5 years ago
Reply to  jonathan Palmer

Agreed..this will not stop at travel.When your employer asks you for a vaccine certification or no job ,shit will hit the fan and I will have to have a deep look at my self and just how strong are my conviction. I think that right at the end I will be forced to take it in order to feed my family. Or I will put a gun in my mouth. Both are options I have been thinking a lot about lately.

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Cheezilla
Cheezilla
5 years ago
Reply to  Thomas_E

Guns in mouths don’t feed families!

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Rowan
Rowan
5 years ago
Reply to  Thomas_E

Those taking the vaccines are effectively putting a gun to their own mouth. This is all about depopulation and the vaccines are their weapon. The only option is resistance.

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Janette
Janette
5 years ago
Reply to  Rowan

Totally agree

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Rowan
Rowan
5 years ago
Reply to  Janette

There are people who seem to think it’s all lockdowns. It isn’t, as you know.

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ElizaP
ElizaP
5 years ago
Reply to  Thomas_E

So glad I don’t have a family – and most of all that I’m retired. If push comes to shove – I will be off – only I will use carbon monoxide (I gather one is asleep literally in a matter of minutes and painlessly – provided pppm is high enough – ie parts per million). I’m not having the Vax no matter what ever.

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Teddy Edward
Teddy Edward
5 years ago

No intention of travelling again.My partner is from Slovakia and that’s under despotic control because somebody sneezed in Bratislava 11 months ago so that suits both of us.In the absence of an Aviation Industry it’s all irrelevant.

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Rowan
Rowan
5 years ago
Reply to  Teddy Edward

Travel means nothing, if a compulsory lethal injection is part of the deal.

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Waldorf
Waldorf
5 years ago
Reply to  Rowan

Well, death is the ultimate journey. Of course, they can’t say the jab is what brings you there…

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Teddy Edward
Teddy Edward
5 years ago

My Agency texted me all front line workers to be vaccinated by the 15th of Feb this is in Wales.My response short and sweet.I know plenty of Nurses who are saying no so watch the shitty care Home sector collapse as the Foreign Legion and the Africa Corp attempt full control of the day to day running of these camps.

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Lisa (formerly) from Toronto
Lisa (formerly) from Toronto
5 years ago
Reply to  Teddy Edward

Thank you for standing up for yourself and other healthcare professionals who are being coerced into taking an untested, experimental gene therapy. I can only hope there are enough of you and of us laypeople who refuse. Coercion is not informed consent.

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Janette
Janette
5 years ago
Reply to  Lisa (formerly) from Toronto

Yes let’s hope so

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RoseE
RoseE
5 years ago
Reply to  Lisa (formerly) from Toronto

I think there’s a new definition of Informed Consent. You have been informed. You will consent.

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Ceriain
Ceriain
5 years ago
Reply to  Teddy Edward

You have my respect, Teddy.

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Annie
Annie
5 years ago
Reply to  Ceriain

ine
God damn Dungford and his foul, filthy minions.

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ElizaP
ElizaP
5 years ago
Reply to  Teddy Edward

I’d be interested to know exactly how they phrased that “request” (aka instruction) please. (Willing to bet it was phrased along lines of “You are all to ensure you have been vaxxed by 15 Feb”, rather than “We’d like to request that those who have decided to have the Vax ensure it is done by 15 Feb”). I don’t blame you for giving short/sweet response whatever way they phrased it = your body your choice. Do keep us posted.

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Pebbles
Pebbles
5 years ago
Reply to  Teddy Edward

Thank you for saying NO. If you need ammunition, please show them the UK Medical Freedom Alliance latest letter in pdf format that outlines the severe adverse reactions and deaths in care homes. They also have the Informed Consent Letter…

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fiery
fiery
5 years ago
Reply to  Teddy Edward

Well done for not agreeing to have the vaccine although sadly the majority of nurses and medical staff will happily agree to be injected as being assertive simply isn’t in their nature.

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Sceptical Steve
Sceptical Steve
5 years ago
Reply to  fiery

As we saw a couple of days ago, the government’s plan is to coerce health professionals and the over 70s into having the jab, on the basis that their failure to do so will delay the ending of the lockdown for the rest of us.

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Alex B
Alex B
5 years ago

When things get crazy, and things for the last year have been off of the Richter scale crazy, like many people who visit and comment here I, all of us, find solace in something to try and keep an even keel. For me it’s music and photography, and books and poetry; so I thought I’d offer this, a poem I love and has meaning for me in these dystopian times. [as freedom is a breakfastfood] by e.e.cummings as freedom is a breakfastfood or truth can live with right and wrong or molehills are from mountains made —long enough and just so long will being pay the rent of seem and genius please the talentgang and water most encourage flame as hatracks into peachtrees grow or hopes dance best on bald men’s hair and every finger is a toe and any courage is a fear —long enough and just so long will the impure think all things pure and hornets wail by children stung or as the seeing are the blind and robins never welcome spring nor flatfolk prove their world is round nor dingsters die at break of dong and common’s rare and millstones float —long enough and just so… Read more »

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Teddy Edward
Teddy Edward
5 years ago
Reply to  Alex B

Lovely but the broken dong concerns me would a handful of fiery jack improve that condition?

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Alex B
Alex B
5 years ago
Reply to  Teddy Edward

😀

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Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
5 years ago
Reply to  Teddy Edward

Shades of Larry Grayson.

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Woden
Woden
5 years ago
Reply to  Teddy Edward

Is this the Dong with the Luminous Nose?

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Nigel Sherratt
Nigel Sherratt
5 years ago
Reply to  Alex B

They tuck you up, your mum and dad. Look after your grandchildren if you can.

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primesinister
primesinister
5 years ago

 Dan Hodges talking about suicide clueless prick ,,, as i have contemplated this during low moments and all due to lockdown.

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Charlie Blue
Charlie Blue
5 years ago
Reply to  primesinister

Hodges enraged me with this guff. And what the hell is a “senior mental health charity”?

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stewart
stewart
5 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Blue

Just another of bunch of puffed up social scientists who don’t realise how little they actually know about anything.

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Nigel Sherratt
Nigel Sherratt
5 years ago
Reply to  primesinister

Another Red Prince, best ignored.

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Spikedee1
Spikedee1
5 years ago
Reply to  primesinister

Yes I have no proof but you must be wrong because I said so. What am arrogant twat!

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Scotty87
Scotty87
5 years ago

I haven’t flown since 2014, and now I can happily announce that I won’t fly until this wretched exercise in vaccine coercion is completely dismantled.

I don’t care if it takes 10 years.

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Lisa (formerly) from Toronto
Lisa (formerly) from Toronto
5 years ago
Reply to  Scotty87

I do believe my travel days are over. It used to make me very sad, but as each country is worse than the next I don’t believe I’ll be missing anything. The best I can hope for is that the Canada-US border opens up to vehicular traffic at some point in my lifetime and I can drive to a sane place like Florida for a vacation. I used to hate Florida, but everything is topsy turvy now.

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Steve-Devon
Steve-Devon
5 years ago
Reply to  Scotty87

That is all very well but many people have family in other countries, we have family in Calgary and our twin grandsons are in Kampala, as far as my wife and I are concerned, in the end, we will do whatever it takes to get to see them.
I do feel that there is a problem with this vaccination passport as unlike yellow fever etc, this vaccine is thought to have a limited protection period and so there is going to be quite an issue keeping it up to date.

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Annie
Annie
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

It will cause such chaos that they will have to drop it.

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Suzyv
Suzyv
5 years ago
Reply to  Annie

That has occurred to me too. What about all the people who can’t have vaccines due to health, allergies, pregnancy etc. I suppose they will say get a letter from your GP, then the GPs will be complaining they are inundated and cannot do it. There are disability discrimination issues although that’s only for the UK it’s upto each country what their own laws are. Protected characteristics under the Equalties Act includes health but also religion and philosphical issues. Then there is the Data Protection Laws and Human Rights Laws certainly all applicable across Europe.

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Annie
Annie
5 years ago
Reply to  Suzyv

Not only that, but different victims will have had different snake oils, and some countries will accept some oils but not others.

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stewart
stewart
5 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Did you not notice how quickly the WHO jumped in to squash the squabbling over the Oxford vaccine?

Anyone who thinks there isn’t some form of supranational coordination going on is simply not paying attention.

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Ceriain
Ceriain
5 years ago
Reply to  Annie

I think you’re correct, Annie. My concern is that these bastards are in this for the long game.

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Janette
Janette
5 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Fingers crossed

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ElizaP
ElizaP
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

Sorry to hear this and I have been surprised to find the number of “international” families there seems to be these days – as I can think of very few personally and those don’t maintain regular physical contact. But do please consider responsibilities to others (ie the wider Society) and stay unvaxxed – and not let the Government use “international” families as a “thin end of the wedge” to push the Vax on the rest of us.

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Steven F
Steven F
5 years ago
Reply to  ElizaP

I too, have been surprised by how many people have family abroad. Also astonished at quite how many people regard international travel as a normal part of their lives. It’s only the events of the past year that have actually confronted me with the stats and made me think about this aspect of modern life. I am curiously naive about the world in which everyone else lives.
I’ve only been on an aeroplane once (or twice, if you include the return trip) and that was for a school trip in 1972. Mrs F has never been on a plane at all. The whole idea of getting on one of those flying tubes and going to foreign, and potentially dangerous lands, fills me with horror. Mind you, the idea of staying in this country with the kind of future the tyrants have planned for us, and the kind of zombies who apparently make up the majority of the population, now fills me with horror too.

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Victoria
Victoria
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

in the end, we will do whatever it takes to get to see them.

….. and it could kill you and you might never see them again

yes having family in other countries makes it much more complex – therefore to fight this with everything you have. This includes standing together and vote for the new political parties at the next election – never vote conservative or labour again.

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stewart
stewart
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

The logistical issues are enormous. We should really not overestimate the capability of governments around the world to organise something so vast and complex.

This doesn’t mean they won’t try, bit we have time to build up an opposition to it. There is time.

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cubby
cubby
5 years ago
Reply to  Scotty87

Unfortunately I fear you are too optimistic. When Governments worldwide enforced smallpox vaccination it took a massive outbreak among the vaccinated in 1871 to reverse public opinion, an entire city (Leicester) to resist it and another 50 years of diminishing public acceptance until punishment for vaccine refusal was removed from the law.
In our time, the compliance of the public and the efficacy of the government’s propaganda wing (mainly the BBC) will allow all future deaths related to the vaccine to be classified as Covid deaths.

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TJN
TJN
5 years ago
Reply to  cubby

Interesting on the smallpox vaccinations – is there a concise account of this anywhere?

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ElizaP
ElizaP
5 years ago
Reply to  TJN

I’m also wondering if there is a suitable link that could be given for us to read about this online. It was news to me to read online (here I think??) re that mandatory smallpox vax thing happening and going on so long – as I’d not known anything about that. So it would be useful to read about it and details of how it was removed eventually.

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The Filthy Engineer
The Filthy Engineer
5 years ago
Reply to  ElizaP

Some info here: https://navigator.health.org.uk/theme/united-kingdom-vaccination-act-1853

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cubby
cubby
5 years ago
Reply to  TJN

Read “Dissolving Illusions” by Suzanne Humphries and Roman Bystrianyk. The chapter on smallpox is an eye opener, the one on Polio an absolute shocker.

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TJN
TJN
5 years ago
Reply to  cubby

Many thanks – I see it on Amazon, and where a part of the smallpox chapter is available to view.

Is this the ‘Anti-vaxxer Bible’?

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ElizaP
ElizaP
5 years ago
Reply to  cubby

I’ve just received a copy of that in the post today – think I must have read about it on here and then decided to order a copy.

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Simon
Simon
5 years ago
Reply to  cubby

News travels faster today, so things will change much more quickly this time as people share information.

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ElizaP
ElizaP
5 years ago
Reply to  Scotty87

I’m with you on this. I gave up flying personally – for environmental reasons and personal health concerns (ie about the quality of air within cabins of planes for instance) some years back – probably around 2010. I don’t like feeling I literally can’t fly though – by Government diktat – as not flying is MY decision and MY decision only. But I have to admit there doesn’t look to be any chance to fly for literally the rest of my life courtesy of the Government – even if I changed my mind and decided to (NB; my estimated remaining lifespan is 15 years). Just as well I had made my own personal decision before all this that any foreign travel to farflung parts would be done now after I’m dead anyway and I can manage without for a few years and then happily start travelling again as soon as I’m dead (ie relocated to “Heaven”).

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Simon
Simon
5 years ago
Reply to  ElizaP

You needn’t worry about the air quality in the cabin, in the majority of aircraft it’s bled from the compressor stage of the engine and filtered many times before coming into the cabin. Usually above your head and exits beneath your feet. It can be pretty dry in there though.

The air is from a fresh source, unless you have an oil leak in the engine which can cause it to smell quite bad…

Newer aircraft use fresh air from the outside, filtered and distributed around the cabin in much the same way.

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Cheezilla
Cheezilla
5 years ago
Reply to  Simon

Good to know. Thanks!

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Nessimmersion
Nessimmersion
5 years ago
Reply to  Simon

You are correct, but only for airlines where smoking is allowed.
One of the reasons smoking was banned is it did not allow the airline to recirculate air. When smoking was allowed, it was continuous fresh air which had to be heated.
This has a fuel cost and the use if recirculated air is the reason behind the rise in respiratory ailments in airline travellers since the smoking ban.
So curiously enough, when smoking was allowed at the back of the plane, the air quality was better for the majority of passenegers.
Dr John Brignell has written extensively on this:
http://www.numberwatch.co.uk/number%20watch.htm

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ElizaP
ElizaP
5 years ago
Reply to  Nessimmersion

Yep – I’d gathered that the airlines used to do the continuous fresh air and then stopped doing so and doing recirculating air instead – for cost-saving reasons. Didn’t know it was connected to smoking – so that’s new info. to me.

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
5 years ago
Reply to  Scotty87

Agree. I have family abroad but given how much they’ve imbibed this Kool Aid hook, line and sinker I don’t care if I see them physically again.

Life is short and if I do get to travel again, I want to go to places because I want to be there not because of any obligation.

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Boris Bullshit
Boris Bullshit
5 years ago
Reply to  Bart Simpson

Have all Fillipinos drunk the kool aid? I know a nurse here and she is a lockdown fanatic….I had a huge row with her and have not spoken since. She called me a selfish bastard!

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
5 years ago
Reply to  Boris Bullshit

Certainly among the people in my Arsebook circle they’ve all drunk the kool aid. Not surprising as they’re mostly rich or middle class or are teachers still being paid despite the schools being shut.

The only sceptic I know is a friend of mine – we had a fairly long chat 2 weeks’ ago and she was concerned about how the lockdowns are affecting children (she has one).

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Boris Bullshit
Boris Bullshit
5 years ago
Reply to  Bart Simpson

Interesting to hear that Bart. The nurse I know has a house over there but has married an old pensioner here and moved into his nice country house…no doubt it will soon be hers! She rants on about how her job is now impossible with covid and how we all need to stay indoors all day and night for months. I suggested she change job and maybe take up one in an office if doing the job she trained for is so bad.

She is the new breed of health fascist who thinks the NHS is all that matters in the world and that they have the right to dictate how everyone lives so that her job will be easier. It reminds me of a fireman I knew who lectured me about having a log burner!

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
5 years ago
Reply to  Boris Bullshit

That sort of attitude doesn’t surprise me. Filipinos are resilient yes and are some of the nicest people in the planet but sadly the vast majority aren’t bright and easily take things as gospel truth so long as it’s an “authority figure”who says it.

We actually have a saying for that friend of yours, its translated as “big headed” or “swell headed”. Just because she works for the NHS she thinks she’s special and ergo is “swell headed”

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Boris Bullshit
Boris Bullshit
5 years ago
Reply to  Bart Simpson

I don’t think she counts as a friend anymore…as I said she called me a selfish bastard for daring to suggest there are other things in life besides viruses and health. I think you have a good point about the listening to ‘authority figures’.

i am fortunate that I worked out decades ago that such figures are not to be trusted…never more so than now.

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Dermot McClatchey
Dermot McClatchey
5 years ago
Reply to  Boris Bullshit

My road-to-Damascus moment was when my primary school headmaster loudly opined to my class teacher that left handed people were in some way, can’t remember his exact words, mentally deficient. My eyes were opened as to the true nature of authority at that moment and have remained open from that day to this. So thanks, Mr. Walker. I owe you a lot.

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
5 years ago
Reply to  Boris Bullshit

As a kid, my school reports constantly described me as a “malcontent” and of course like the Japanese, the Filipinos also have a way to hammer down those who stick out.

So glad that I got out.

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stalfie
stalfie
5 years ago
Reply to  Bart Simpson

Round my way, a village in rural South East, it is the tradespeople who are the most ardent lockdown and mask fanatics- for others! You should read the rants if an old lady should linger for a little chat in the butchers shop, or if a few lanky teenagers gather in a skatepark. These people are out all day, mingling with colleagues, going into customers homes, and – this is the crunch- very very jealous of what they perceive to be people being paid to loll about at home.

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
5 years ago
Reply to  stalfie

It’s “rules for thee but not for me” isn’t it? Mr Bart points out that for many people they’re happy to break the rules when it suits them but if its other people, they clutch their pearls and go “oh no, no, how selfish of them”

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Lisa (formerly) from Toronto
Lisa (formerly) from Toronto
5 years ago

Nobody can “prove immunity status” by virtue of having taken an experimental gene therapy that was never intended to stop you from getting Covid or spreading Covid. FFS, the manufacturers themselves have said these treatments don’t confer immunity. At this point all I can hope for is that the adverse reactions keep piling up and the countries that have immunized the most keep wracking up more “cases” and deaths. It’ll take some number of years, but I believe we will see ADE/pathogenic priming and a proliferation of autoimmune disease, in addition to the already high rate of more immediate adverse reactions.

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Suzyv
Suzyv
5 years ago
Reply to  Lisa (formerly) from Toronto

Totally agree. Adverse reactions are coming in. I am personally hearing of them through friends and family and literally every other day. If you look on Vernon Coleman’s website he is keeping details and updating regularly.

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kpaulsmith1463
kpaulsmith1463
5 years ago
Reply to  Suzyv

Or, as I mentioned above, look up Hugo Talks on YouTube – kid does good work.

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kate
kate
5 years ago
Reply to  Lisa (formerly) from Toronto

The problem is that adverse reactions to vaccines have been evident for years. This has not led to their safety being reassessed.

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jonathan Palmer
jonathan Palmer
5 years ago

I just received an email from my daughters school.They are planning mass testing of children when they finally return,using the LFT

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Sodastream
Sodastream
5 years ago
Reply to  jonathan Palmer

Hi Jonathan, is your daughter at primary or secondary school?
I had this stress around Xmas as my son who is at secondary year 7, his school were introducing it.
They need parental consent which we obviously did not give and he’s been left alone ( he’s there as key worker child) It stressed me out a lot though as many emails coercing parents to fill out the consent form. After all “it would reduce the spread” and “make school safer”.
Utter bollox. There is a part on the forum “testing in secondary schools” though it ground to a halt as the schools shut.
There are some good template letters on us for them uk and miriaf.webs.com which has excellent letters for all manner of mask/ testing / vacc etc issues.
I haven’t needed the letter for school this for but one is brewing as my son was asked to explain his exemption for non mask at the school gate by a a high vis gestapo.
My son replied “my mum says I’m exempt” bless him. She didn’t like that!

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FedupofLies
FedupofLies
5 years ago
Reply to  Sodastream

Well, it’s all your fucking fault, you parents, isn’t it. You gave up your rights over your children to the state.

It was always going to end like this.

The future of freedom is ironically in the land of Gates and FAuci, the United States, where homeschooling and farmer’s markets and evangelical communities still exist.

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JohnB
JohnB
5 years ago
Reply to  FedupofLies

where homeschooling and farmer’s markets and evangelical communities still exist.

We’ve got all these things in Sussex, FuoL.

Now if you’re talking about the 2nd Amendment, I’m completely with you.

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Victoria
Victoria
5 years ago
Reply to  Sodastream

explain his exemption for non mask at the school gate by a a high vis gestapo.

My son replied “my mum says I’m exempt” bless him. She didn’t like that!

Fantastic!!

Great information thanks! Al parents should use these resources and challenge testing – it leads to anxiety in children = child abuse

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nickbowes
nickbowes
5 years ago

Another day, i wonder which gates paid non-entity “expert” (on a gold plated guaranteed by the tax payer, secure pension) will be on the news, suggesting years long “lockdown” is worth it, if it only saves just one 83 year old.. Come on people, as the prophet Icke says “time to get off our knees” !

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SallyM
SallyM
5 years ago

The suggestion to deflect attention to the overweight is abhorrent. Why would anyone who cares about liberty and autonomy and decency want to replace Covid tyranny with another? I’m sick to death of people trying to escape their predicament by turning the spotlight onto smokers or the overweight or some other scapegoat category.

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Annie
Annie
5 years ago
Reply to  SallyM

Satire, m’dear.

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SallyM
SallyM
5 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Oh yes, the height of wit.

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Steve Hayes
Steve Hayes
5 years ago
Reply to  SallyM

I wonder how you would have responded to Jonathan Swift’s A Modest Proposal?

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Annie
Annie
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve Hayes

Get the cookery book out! Enfants à la sauce Robert.

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TJN
TJN
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve Hayes

A poisonous little piece, and a wonderful send-up of the type of spreadsheet management that has got us into this current mess, three centuries ahead of its time.

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Ceriain
Ceriain
5 years ago
Reply to  SallyM

Don’t feel bad, Sally. We’re that used to seeing bad news above the line, it’s easy to be fooled. 🙂

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The Filthy Engineer
The Filthy Engineer
5 years ago
Reply to  Annie

It might be satire but we don’t need to go around giving them ideas. 🙂

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sophie123
sophie123
5 years ago
Reply to  SallyM

I quite like the idea, given that Johnson, Gove and Patel are chubbers.
Hancock, Witty and Vallance could stand up on TV and harangue them. See how they like it.

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Ovis
Ovis
5 years ago
Reply to  sophie123

Look into their eyes

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JohnB
JohnB
5 years ago
Reply to  SallyM

As a smoker, I can only say that I look good under a spotlight.

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kpaulsmith1463
kpaulsmith1463
5 years ago

Andrew Cuomo, mass-murderer.
I truly, truly HATE this guy.
https://nypost.com/2021/02/11/cuomo-aide-admits-they-hid-nursing-home-data-from-feds/

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Annie
Annie
5 years ago
Reply to  kpaulsmith1463

Anybody believe that they didn’t do the same over here?

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Jinks
Jinks
5 years ago
Reply to  Annie

The only country in the west that didn’t attempt to cull their elderly, was Belarus. Instead, during the initial 3wk house arrest, infection control teams were sent to all the nursing homes, alongside supplies of PPE. And then life resumed as normal. Poor Belarus, with their awful dictator. Sigh

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Nigel Sherratt
Nigel Sherratt
5 years ago
Reply to  Jinks

Perhaps we’ll get a huge golden statue of Dilyn soon like the chap in Turkmenistan put up. Would be very suitable for the continuing worship of Baal Hammon/Moloch/NHS.

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Jinks
Jinks
5 years ago
Reply to  Nigel Sherratt

satanic occult ritial sacrifice, in broad daylight, and most people haven’t a clue how demonic this all is.

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Crystal Decanter
Crystal Decanter
5 years ago

Bring it all down

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FedupofLies
FedupofLies
5 years ago
Reply to  Crystal Decanter

Don’t give me Peter Hitchens. At the beginning he was a hero, but now he doesn’t even touch the issues of the coup d’état by Big Pharma and the coming Reset.

He could have used his position to lead protests. Instead he just sat on his ass complaining about David Icke.

FUCK YOU HITCHENS!

All that stuff about ‘courage’ and the previous generations bla bla bla and he does nothing himself.

He could have been a real leader, THE leader.

Instead he sat it out.

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Dorian_Hawkmoon
Dorian_Hawkmoon
5 years ago
Reply to  FedupofLies

How bout you do it rather than criticising others?

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Boris Bullshit
Boris Bullshit
5 years ago
Reply to  FedupofLies

He has made it pretty clear that he fears mass civil disobedience more than he fears lockdown. He has stated in a spiked interview that he thinks Ferguson is a man of integrity and that he thinks that govt ministers are driven by the best of intentions.

I used to like him but he is becoming increasingly annoying. I find it hard to think of someone who thinks those things as being on the same side of the barricades as me.

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Bill
Bill
5 years ago
Reply to  FedupofLies

If he wasn’t ‘moderate’ he wouldn’t be allowed on the MSM. As it is it’s difficult enough for him. Pity, but there we are.

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Ceriain
Ceriain
5 years ago

I am 59 years old. I have had 3 heart attacks (told no. 4 will probably be it), I’m asthmatic, I have no spleen, and have COPD. I had a double heart bypass 5 years ago; since then, I’ve never felt better.

I’m a person who, were the vaccine real, would have been jabbed by now. I declined the offer when it was made this week by my GP.

No, Mister Hancock, I will NOT take your poison!

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Annie
Annie
5 years ago
Reply to  Ceriain

Brave words. May you live long and prosper.
And you don’t swallow his verbal poison either. That’s resistance.

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Ceriain
Ceriain
5 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Bless you, Annie. 💖
I’ll do everything in my power to live long enough to hopefully see the bastard pay for his crimes.

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Annie
Annie
5 years ago
Reply to  Ceriain

I’m confident we all will.
It will be the biggest celebration in British history. VH Day.

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FedupofLies
FedupofLies
5 years ago
Reply to  Annie

And what about the overwhelming majority who supported him?

People will NEVER admit their complicity.

As Musk said “people wanted this”.

A CHOICE was given: the public accepted.

This is the beginning of 1984. Winston Smith is in the future. Brave New World, too!

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Pebbles
Pebbles
5 years ago
Reply to  Ceriain

Keep going! Well done mate.

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ElizaP
ElizaP
5 years ago
Reply to  Ceriain

Not necessarily so- re the 4th one. My erstwhile brother has gone through 14 heart attacks last I knew and he’s just erstwhile status because he’s turned out to be the right little selfish sh*t I’ve long thought he was, but he is still alive as far as I know – so I don’t want to know someone like that any longer. NB; I’m sure you’re a much nicer person than he is I hasten to add…

I admit to astonishment that anyone could have survived so many heart attacks…

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Ceriain
Ceriain
5 years ago
Reply to  ElizaP

14! OMG!

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
5 years ago
Reply to  Ceriain

Well done. KBO!!!

More power to your elbow sir!

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Hoppy Uniatz
Hoppy Uniatz
5 years ago
Reply to  Ceriain

You are undoubtedly the only person on this thread with no spleen!

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AshesThanDust
AshesThanDust
5 years ago
Reply to  Hoppy Uniatz

Hahaha!

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Ceriain
Ceriain
5 years ago
Reply to  Hoppy Uniatz

Literally, yes; figuratively, no. 😉

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Mutineer
Mutineer
5 years ago
Reply to  Ceriain

It’s a medical trial!!! Nobody will underlying health issues should even be offered the death elixir (vaccine it ain’t) They are not even checking medical histories! I have been offered it and I had a severe life changing reaction to a BCG jab I was forced to have working in the NHS and never worked again. It hasn’t been tested on people with health issues or people on medication. It’s slaughter.

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kate
kate
5 years ago
Reply to  Mutineer

You are quite correct. This experimental treatment will be riskier for those with underlying problems.

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Old Trout
Old Trout
5 years ago
Reply to  Ceriain

Brilliant! I wish my dad had some of your spirit. He has what he calls a ‘dicky ticker’ which has turned him into the world’s biggest hypochondriac and, despite all the information I showed him about its lack of effectiveness and possible side effects, he couldn’t wait to be jabbed. I wish you all the best for the future.

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Ceriain
Ceriain
5 years ago
Reply to  Old Trout

Thanks, Old Trout.

I, too, have met a few people who have had heart attack/s and have used it to almost give up on living, or wanting to do anything, but really are, just as you say, hypochondriacs. That said, I’ve met plenty like me who used it as an excuse to live life better.

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Annie
Annie
5 years ago

How the sheeples are going to enjoy their double knickers. A wire digging into the bridge of your nose. Knots digging into the sides of your face. A tight string yanking at each ear. Itchy material clamped tight against your nose and mouth and facial skin. Then another wire and more knots and more itch on top, grinding the first lot further into your face. And if you work in a shop or other public place, this is for eight hours a day with no remission. And if the Fascists have their way, it goes on for ever.
Enjoy, sheeples, enjoy.

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
5 years ago
Reply to  Annie

We’ll probably be seeing more skin problems. Not just your usual acne but severe dermatitis and impetigo for a start.

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Prof Feargoeson
Prof Feargoeson
5 years ago
Reply to  Annie

The mask tan should be interesting this summer. I imagine them all looking like reverse Barney Rubbles.

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Steve Hayes
Steve Hayes
5 years ago

Fauci claimed that face masks were of no use for the general population and recommended that people did not wear them. He later claimed that face masks prevented transmission of the virus and recommended that people wear them. Asked about this change, he claimed he had been lying when he had said that face masks were of no use. Later Fauci claimed that wearing two face masks was better than wearing one, as two were obviously more effective than one. Within days of this new position he admitted that there is no evidence that double masking is effective in preventing transmission of the virus. The World Health Organisation has also struggled with this issue. It changed its long standing position on face mask wearing by the general population in June 2020, not on the basis of evidence, but, as even the BBC reported, as a result of political lobbying. (Unfortunately the BBC did not identify the lobbyists.) Here at home we saw the same pattern with experts pointing out that face mask did not prevent transmission of virus and they were not recommended for the general population. Then the government changed its position (something neatly led up to in the… Read more »

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Crystal Decanter
Crystal Decanter
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve Hayes

Maybe gay saunas impact the mind

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cubby
cubby
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve Hayes

The change in position may reflect a change in personal or family investment in companies producing the lockdown paraphernalia.

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FedupofLies
FedupofLies
5 years ago
Reply to  cubby

good point

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Rowan
Rowan
5 years ago
Reply to  cubby

It would simply reflect what Bill Gates wanted.

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Mr Taxpayer
Mr Taxpayer
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve Hayes

I’ve been free-faced throughout. I was walking out of ASDA Hereford 30 minutes ago and was stopped by 2 of West Mercia’s finest. Apparently they had been called by the security guard that I reminded of the extent of his powers a few days earlier. I told them I was exempt. they explained it easier if you carry a card or something, so I flashed my “I am exempt” free card downloaded from .gov.uk and I was let on my way. The best bit was them walking across to the security guard and telling him I was exempt. I could have pointed out a few other points of law but my daughter was with me and the bacon was getting warm.

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Silke David
Silke David
5 years ago
Reply to  Mr Taxpayer

I am surprised they respond to these calls.
They could as well explain to the security person on the phone what the law is and ask him to review how he handled it, and not waste their time.

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Dermot McClatchey
Dermot McClatchey
5 years ago
Reply to  Silke David

I suspect the filth might have been hoping to make an example- possibly accompanied by a scare-piece pour encourager les autres in the local rag- of Mr. Taxpayer.

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Scotty87
Scotty87
5 years ago

So most Brits back immunity passports, eh? Well let’s see how that stacks up next summer. It’s easy to virtue-signal and give the “right” answer in a poll, it’s very different to roll up your sleeve and be jabbed with an unlicensed, experimental form of gene therapy.

I’m predicting wails of desperation from the heads of the Spanish and Greek tourist boards before long.

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Steve Hayes
Steve Hayes
5 years ago
Reply to  Scotty87

Immunity passports? Not even the developers of the so called vaccines claim their products confer immunity; they merely claim their products reduce the severity of the symptoms. This is an admission that the “vaccinated” may well be walking around carrying the virus and thus be able to pass it on to others.

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PeeDubbya
PeeDubbya
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve Hayes

Steve, The paper work that comes with the Pfizer jab clearly states in the ‘what is it used for’ section:

COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine BNT162b2 is a vaccine used for active immunisation to prevent COVID-19 disease caused by SARS-CoV-2 virus

The vaccine triggers the body’s natural production of antibodies and stimulates immune cells to protect against COVID-19 disease.

To me, that sounds like they are claiming immunity, not a reduction in the severity of symptoms. More truth massaging going on here probably

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cubby
cubby
5 years ago
Reply to  PeeDubbya

A job for Trading Standards? Does this department still exist and if so maybe a UK resident could report this?

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Sceptical Steve
Sceptical Steve
5 years ago
Reply to  PeeDubbya

My assumption would be that they’ll claim that “Covid-19 Disease” is an acceptable description of the more serious consequences (hospitalisation, death) of the Viral Infection, which is what the vaccines claim to suppress.

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Dorian_Hawkmoon
Dorian_Hawkmoon
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve Hayes

I think the distinction between immunity status and vaccination status is being deliberately fudged. They are different things.

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MiriamW-sometimes-AlanG
MiriamW-sometimes-AlanG
5 years ago
Reply to  Scotty87

Several people including me pointed out yesterday that YouGov was founded by Vaccines Minister Zahawi. MW

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Waldorf
Waldorf
5 years ago
Reply to  Scotty87

The Greeks somewhat opened up last summer – they had to, as they depend on tourism and the reported death toll from Covid was tiny last year until November, when it rose for obviously seasonal reasons.
This year they will certainly be wanting people to hit the beach.

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Prof Feargoeson
Prof Feargoeson
5 years ago
Reply to  Waldorf

Won’t be me if they want a CovviPass.

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Suzyv
Suzyv
5 years ago

I will be sitting back and watching and waiting regarding the vaccines and travel. And yes looks like it may mean not travelling overseas for a while which may not be practicable for some I know due to family and work etc. There are already a great many adverse reactions published and this will only get worse with time. No matter how hard they try to cover it up some of it at least will come out. And it isn’t just a headache or sore arm, heart attacks, strokes, bells palsy, loss of sight etc and even some deaths admitted and we haven’t started on the possible autoimmune illnesses and ADE for some further down the line although they will definitely try and say no link to these. It’s a personal choice but is a risk of a very serious life changing reaction worth it? And if with time there seems to be no risks then you can think again- although the reactions have already started so I am not hopeful on that.

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kpaulsmith1463
kpaulsmith1463
5 years ago
Reply to  Suzyv

I would refer you to the YT Channel & website, ‘Hugo Talks’, where he DOES talk about it.

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ElizaP
ElizaP
5 years ago
Reply to  Suzyv

Indeed – the info. is starting to come out re effects of the Vax – and this is before many have had the 2nd one and goodness only knows what will happen then. In fact I think one of my main concerns is re the effect on the person themselves – not their body. I do wonder and there’s some comments already that the Vax will affect about one-third of people mentally. Already there are reports coming out of the person themselves changing – eg an instance I read of a couple of close relatives and close friend commenting that the person themselves has changed (ie their personality has gone from outgoing etc to depressed and introvert and they just aren’t themselves any more). There have been several tales of that sort of thing I’ve read recently. Added that, I know it’s only anecdotal, but apparently some very well-known (spiritual) healers have reported that they were simply unable to “reach” three people they tried to send distance healing to any longer – and it felt like there was a blockage in the way that they had never experienced with people they had tried absent healing on prior to The Vax.… Read more »

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Cheezilla
Cheezilla
5 years ago
Reply to  ElizaP

It reminds me of Pullman’s intercision!

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Spearthrower Owl
Spearthrower Owl
5 years ago
Reply to  ElizaP

I have also read that – quite some time ago – and it makes me think that there will be a category of people “vaxed” behaving very differently from the “uvaxed”

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Janette
Janette
5 years ago
Reply to  Suzyv

I agree with everything you said Suzy

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Pebbles
Pebbles
5 years ago
Reply to  Suzyv

Please can everyone send the latest UK Medical Freedom Alliance Brief about vaccines to their MPs, and also to medical correspondents in the media… you can find it on their website in pdf form. It is pushing for an enquiry regarding the side effects. Also distribute to others who are thinking of getting vaccinated. Thank you.

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kate
kate
5 years ago
Reply to  Pebbles

I have done this and am very glad I did. I also sent it to my local councillor who said he has forwarded it to the local Director of Public Health

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/directors-of-public-health-in-england–2

https://www.theyworkforyou.com/mps/

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rose
rose
5 years ago
Reply to  Suzyv

We have n’t had the second round yet. Adverse reactions will be much worse and then when ‘vaccinated’ come into contact with the live virus …who knows

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primesinister
primesinister
5 years ago
Reply to  rose

TThe data from the vaccine adverse event reporting website ive only seen for usa, is pretty grim reading plenty dead after mrna jab.

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Bella Donna
Bella Donna
5 years ago
Reply to  Suzyv

Knowing what I have learnt since last April about this being a political agenda and not concern for our wellbeing, we will not comply.

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Rowan
Rowan
5 years ago
Reply to  Bella Donna

They will have to tie me down first. It is all a scam and their end game is massive depopulation.

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Steve-Devon
Steve-Devon
5 years ago

My local authority of Torridge has a case rate of 19/100000, the neighbouring area of North Devon has a case rate of 25.7/10000. The hospital for these areas, Barnstaple, serves a population of 164,253 people. The NHS data board reports that there are currently 2 Covid patients in Barnstaple Hospital and as far as I am aware the hospital is running relatively normally.

The actual local area where I live and am ‘locked-down’ has a case rate of zero because try hard as they like they cannot find any virus. People locally look hale and hearty, stop and chat in the street, walk through the local woods all looking very fit and healthy. Yet the schools are half shut, the pub is shut, the village hall is closed and we are not supposed to travel very much.
How long can they impose all these restrictions when there is virtually nothing happening and it is proving so hard to find any signs of virus?

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Annie
Annie
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

For as long as the zombies bleat for it.

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Harrydean
Harrydean
5 years ago
Reply to  Annie

That’s the sad truth Annie. We can blame the government but they do seem to have the support of the majority. The vaccination potential time-bomb may become difficult to hide though.

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Janette
Janette
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

I know that’s why they are going door to door testing people. They are so desparate to find cases so they can keep us locked up.

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FedupofLies
FedupofLies
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

How long? As Sunetra Gupta warned, until some nasty virus is on the rise because of the lack of social mixing.

These people know what they are doing: they are genocidal SCUM!

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Sceptical Steve
Sceptical Steve
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

I would expect that your suggestion that Barstaple Hospital is running “relatively normally” is far from the truth. My wife works as a secretary within the clinical psychology department of our local NHS hospital and is expected to wear mask and goggles throughout her time on the premises. Hancock and Johnson need to address how they expect the hospitals to reduce their massive waiting lists when all the staff, clinical and administrative, are forced to continue working under such restrictive and unnatural conditions.

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Ceriain
Ceriain
5 years ago

Good to see Will ATL again today.
Maybe Toby will do the weekend shift and he can remind us all again that this is just incompetence and Boris being terrified of the death numbers.
I’ve read many people on this forum BTL say, “this is not/was never about a virus”.
They’re right, it’s not, it never was, and it’s not about a vaccine either!

Last edited 5 years ago by Ceriain
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Boris Bullshit
Boris Bullshit
5 years ago
Reply to  Ceriain

Yes such nice people these govt ministers and they have our best interests at heart. Sadly even Peter Hitchens thinks that!

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TheClone
TheClone
5 years ago

Only the government minds and souls are empty!

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Nigel Sherratt
Nigel Sherratt
5 years ago
Reply to  TheClone

Laphroaigh regularly heavily discounted at local Sainsbury’s and the reassuring smell of brewing drifts over from Britain’s oldest brewer so no, it’s balls of course.

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JanMasarykMunich
JanMasarykMunich
5 years ago
Reply to  TheClone

The ‘leaked Canadian report’ mentions:

Projected supply chain break downs, inventory shortages, large economic instability. Expected late Q2 2021.

I really do not know what to think about this document…

https://thecanadianreport.ca/is-this-leaked-memo-really-trudeaus-covid-plan-for-2021-you-decide/

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kate
kate
5 years ago
Reply to  JanMasarykMunich

It seems remarkably prescient for something I first read last October. Since then, second wave, stronger lockdowns first local, then progressing to nationwide, mutations, travel restrictions, both internal and external, increased pressure and propaganda directed against the minority that will not accept vaccines……

None of this had occurred last October, in fact I remember reading this and thinking it unbelievable.

Just waiting now for the supply chain breakdown, financial collapse and being carted off to the isolation facility under the Coronavirus act as a danger to society. Oh, and having all my assets confiscated, of course.

On a more optimistic note I am hoping that the attack on private property will prove to be a step too far. The right to own private property has been a cornerstone of British law.

Last edited 5 years ago by kate
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Steve-Devon
Steve-Devon
5 years ago

From observations locally in North Devon, no and no, our village shop and the greengrocers in Torrington have stacks of fresh produce, the bakers have plenty of bread, the wine shelves are full and the farms are producing plenty of eggs milk and cream.

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ElizaP
ElizaP
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

Oh don’t – do tell us more…

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rockoman
rockoman
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

I read the German press.

I have noticed too.

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steve_w
steve_w
5 years ago

no. the supermarkets are as normal

traffic on the roads seems normal – I don’t know where everyone is going as not much open

london is almost deserted

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Richy_m_99
Richy_m_99
5 years ago

Henceforth, I no longer wish to be referred to as anti-vaxx. That implies that I have not given any consideration to other options.

Indeed, I decline in spite of my mother now being scared of seeing me, such is the level of fear that has been instilled in her by this evil regime and a complicit media.

I now wish to be considered a conscientious objector.

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ElizaP
ElizaP
5 years ago
Reply to  Richy_m_99

It would be useful for us all to have a (suitable of course) name that could be used by us to describe our refusal to have The Vax status. I am personally totally anti all vaccinations and also anti The Vax. But I would think it likely most on here would have vaccinations – but not have The Vax. So I can/do call myself an anti-vaxxer (and that means I’m anti the lot of them and also anti The Vax) – but I appreciate others would like to differentiate to make it plain they are in favour of vaccinations but not The Vax.

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Barbara Baker
Barbara Baker
5 years ago
Reply to  ElizaP

I have mentioned before that I say I am in the Control Group – vital for any medical experiment . It also sounds like a positive choice which is correct and important.
Most don’t seem to understand the concept but if they ask for an explanation they mostly say “Reeelly? How interesting”

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ElizaP
ElizaP
5 years ago
Reply to  Barbara Baker

A vital role indeed – as today’s UK Column News included the thought that those who were the control group in the tiny short-lived amount of trialling there was will also shortly have The Vax in all likelihood and so there’ll no longer be any sort of control group at all!!!

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Victoria
Victoria
5 years ago
Reply to  Richy_m_99

Informed decision

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JaneHarry
JaneHarry
5 years ago
Reply to  Richy_m_99

you are just somebody who has resisted the brainwashing, the mind control. you are still free. let them put what stupid labels they like on you, who cares, they’re all stark raving mad, in any case. ‘anti-vaxxer’ can be translated as ‘heretic/apostate; blasphemer’ – I’m proud to number myself as one of those, I reject this entire cult, which I consider satanic at bottom

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DevonBlueBoy
DevonBlueBoy
5 years ago

I cannot see what the problem is with ‘vaccination passports’. When I first started travelling abroad in the 1970s, to Africa and Asia, you had to have with you vaccination certificates for such conditions as typhoid and yellow fever. These were inspected by the health authorities just before you went through immigration at your destination. If you don’t want to travel the you won’t need a certificate. We can’t influence the numpties in our Government so there will be no chance of doing so in foreign lands!

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Ceriain
Ceriain
5 years ago
Reply to  DevonBlueBoy

Do you really think this will stop with just ‘permission to travel’?

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Stephanos
Stephanos
5 years ago
Reply to  Ceriain

Definitely not. Its use will be extended to gradually and not so gradually to EVERYTHING. Restaurants, pubs, museums, libraries, corner shops, sports centres, driving, you name it. It is a not very thin end of an extremely thick wedge. Our freedoms have gone completely.

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Tom Blackburn
Tom Blackburn
5 years ago
Reply to  DevonBlueBoy

I’m more than happy to let the markets do the talking on this one.

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Steve Hayes
Steve Hayes
5 years ago
Reply to  DevonBlueBoy

How about the fact that the so called vaccines are not vaccines; do not confer immunity; but merely (according to the developers of these products) reduce the severity of the symptoms (making it more likely that individuals who are ill will continue with everyday activities rather than take to their beds until they are well)?

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Richy_m_99
Richy_m_99
5 years ago
Reply to  DevonBlueBoy

The difference was that vaccinations were limited to exotic destinations with deadly viruses not found on our shores for which we have no immunity. Not for what amounts to s common cold for the majority.

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this is my username
this is my username
5 years ago
Reply to  DevonBlueBoy

This illness is not serious for most – indeed as we are aware most cases are in fact false positives caused by high PCR test cycle thresholds. They are not even asymptomatic. So once we take those out of the equation, we are left with a few who will be badly affected, just like with the flu every year. We have never treated flu like this – I don’t know about you, but I’ve never take precautions against catching flu, let alone a vaccine (nor would I take a vaccine, they are filth – monkey viruses which have been genetically altered are not something I want anywhere near me, let alone the mRNA gene therapies). The virus is the ploy for more control. The vaccine passports are a coercove measure to get more people to take the vaccine now. They know what they are doing – the Behavioural Insights Team knows that by creating such a feeling of hopelessness in the population they can get people to aquiesce to their plans more easily, and that once you’ve had one of these vaccines, you’ll be more likely to accept another. The Overton window is being shifted by these measures. It’s not… Read more »

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cubby
cubby
5 years ago
Reply to  DevonBlueBoy

A couple of reasons for not accepting the vaccine; the deaths from vaccination are likely to be similar in number and frequency to deaths from the disease itself (see ‘flu) and the people who are mandating this are probably profiting from it (see Handcock and Vallance). Would these not be reason enough to object to vaccine passports? And we’re not talking about Africa, we’re talking about people wishing to see family members working in the community without borders to which we once belonged.

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Steve-Devon
Steve-Devon
5 years ago
Reply to  DevonBlueBoy

As far as I am aware, for Yellow Fever there is one vaccination and this is internationally agreed as being needed for travel to certain countries and also it seems to be accepted that it lasts for a lifetime.
There are now a large range of SARS-Cov2 vaccines, all experimental and all dubious and there is no International agreement as to how long they last? nor which ones are acceptable. Indeed whilst yellow fever seems a fairly stable disease, SARS-Cov 2 is unstable and mutates and so international agreement on a vaccine protocol will be tricky to achieve.
These proposed vaccine passports are more likely to be required by travel companies, in which case it will depend on how keen they are for your business?

Another thing; I note that my Yellow Card has an exemptions sheet, all existing Yellow Card treatments have an agreed exemptions protocol. Before SARS-Cov2 can be officially added to the Yellow Card system there will need to be an agreed exemptions protocol.

My optimistic hope is that before all this official international agreement can be reached SARS-Cov2 will have duly disappeared.

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TheBluePill
TheBluePill
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

Actually SARS-COV-2 is not very mutable – especially compared to something like flu. I don’t think we have seen anything that can be classed as mutations, only small changes in RNA from replication errors. The word “mutate” is deliberately overused as part of the propaganda.

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Marcus Junius Brutus
Marcus Junius Brutus
5 years ago
Reply to  DevonBlueBoy

Fuck off.

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Annie
Annie
5 years ago
Reply to  Marcus Junius Brutus

Et tu, Brute?

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Dermot McClatchey
Dermot McClatchey
5 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Quousque tandem abutere patientia nostra, DBB?

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Apache
Apache
5 years ago
Reply to  DevonBlueBoy

The typhoid and yellow fever vaccines were proven to be beneficial and safe. The covid vaccines haven’t finished safety testing. The disease is survivable for most healthy people so the unknown risks of vaccine outweigh the upside. If the vaccine passports were purely for travel your stance might be justified but just watch the mission creep and they being required to enter other areas.

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JaneHarry
JaneHarry
5 years ago
Reply to  DevonBlueBoy

the difference is that typhoid and yellow fever are real diseases, and the vaccines are real vaccines, which went through normal development and safety protocols. I too have a yellow fever vaccination certificate [somewhere]

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Nigel Sherratt
Nigel Sherratt
5 years ago
Reply to  DevonBlueBoy

I had my polio vaccinations in 1958 at Medical Centre, Rifle Range Road, Kuala Lumpur. I’ve still got the chit and all the subsequent ones for other serious diseases. There is no comparison with the current Great Insanity.

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Mutineer
Mutineer
5 years ago
Reply to  DevonBlueBoy

You can’t even compare typhoid and yellow fever! This is seasonal flu ffs!

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Old Trout
Old Trout
5 years ago
Reply to  DevonBlueBoy

How about the fact a person is risking serious injury or even death by taking an experimental treatment in order to travel abroad?

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Ewan Duffy
Ewan Duffy
5 years ago
Reply to  DevonBlueBoy

A “vaccine” for an illness that 99.7% of the population survive and where the greater risk individuals are easily identified (the elderly,the obese and those with other illnesses). In addition, there has never been a vaccine for a coronavirus yet suddenly there is!

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Nessimmersion
Nessimmersion
5 years ago
Reply to  Ewan Duffy

Its not even the obese, otherwise Japan, Taiwan, Belarus etc would be reporting far more deaths.
Its only the obese with other issues AND low Vit D

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The Filthy Engineer
The Filthy Engineer
5 years ago
Reply to  DevonBlueBoy

On one level I don’t necessarily have a problem with vaccination certificates and I’ve said as much a few months back on this forum. What I have a problem with is the almost guaranteed mission creep that these digital “passports” will have.

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Bungle
Bungle
5 years ago
Reply to  The Filthy Engineer

You’ve said this before? Wonder why nobody was listening?

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Bungle
Bungle
5 years ago
Reply to  DevonBlueBoy

I used to say “oh, sorry,must be in my suitcase” and they let me through.

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Basics
Basics
5 years ago

The NHS has 1.2 million employees. Roughly a third of them are overweight or obese. How seriously do the employees want to save the nhs and help the nation?

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PeeDubbya
PeeDubbya
5 years ago
Reply to  Basics

It would appear there’s a few of them on sick leave at the moment:

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Nigel Sherratt
Nigel Sherratt
5 years ago
Reply to  PeeDubbya

I asked Whately months ago what proportion of the self isolators were obese. No response of course.

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ElizaP
ElizaP
5 years ago
Reply to  Basics

I’d say rather more than a third of them are overweight – judging by those gruesome little TikTok videos of them dancing. The vast majority of them are overweight – going by those. What a load of little porkies in the main…

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fiery
fiery
5 years ago
Reply to  ElizaP

Absolutely – when I worked for the NHS there’s was certainly more than a third who were morbidly obese.

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muzzle
muzzle
5 years ago
Reply to  Basics

I’ve been to the hospital and all the nurses are fat. Surely that would be like going to a tailors for a nice suit but all the staff are in scruffy jeans.

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Nigel Sherratt
Nigel Sherratt
5 years ago
Reply to  Basics

You can draw your own conclusions from Sir Tom’s fund being spent on biscuits and chill-axing spaces.

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
5 years ago
Reply to  Basics

Not helped by the free food they’ve been getting from the likes of Domino’s Pizzas.

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Boris Bullshit
Boris Bullshit
5 years ago
Reply to  Bart Simpson

haha yes ‘protect the NHS’…eat at Dominos every day!

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Meet the Green Councillor Taking Her Grandchildren to Give Valentine’s Cards to Asylum Seekers in Crowborough

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“Britain’s Jews Are Under Threat”: Police Chief’s Warning After Massacre Plotters Jailed

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Covid Rates Were Falling Across Europe Before Lockdowns, Study Finds

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Labour’s Brazen Hypocrisy on Foreign Interference

11

The Truth About Autism and Vaccines Doesn’t Suit Either Side

14 February 2026
by Dr Randall Bock

Epstein’s Special Theory of Relativity

14 February 2026
by James Alexander

Labour’s Brazen Hypocrisy on Foreign Interference

14 February 2026
by Charlotte Gill

Is Gen Z Really Too Dumb to Read Books?

13 February 2026
by Guy de la Bédoyère

The Anarcho-Tyranny of Britain’s Fly-Tipping Rules

13 February 2026
by Steven Tucker

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