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by Jonathan Barr
13 February 2021 4:57 AM

Up to 40% of first wave COVID-19 Patients May Have Acquired Infection in Hospital, says SAGE Paper

Yesterday the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies released a document which provides an estimate of the number of COVID-19 hospital patients who were infected through nosocomial transmission between February and July of last year. Turns out the number may be as high as four in 10. The Telegraph has the story.

It was previously thought around one-fifth of infections had been caught in hospitals, but researchers at Public Health England and the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine (LSHTM) also looked at the number of people testing positive within two weeks of discharge. 

Under the most conservative estimate, which only included people infected after at least 15 days in hospital, just 8.8% of infections were found to be “nosocomial”, or acquired in hospital, equating to 7,906 people.

However, under the least conservative estimates – which included those testing positive within three days of entering hospital or 14 days after discharge – the number rises to 40.5% of hospital infections, a total of 36,152 people.

Separate modelling by the same group using different data from the COVID-19 Clinical Information Network concludes that there may have been 31,070 hospital infections in England over the first wave.

Not only that. This is from the document itself:

A number of the nosocomially infected patients will be discharged and lead to onward community transmission. Modelling this onward transmission crudely… up to the 4th generation of transmission, gives 50,550 onward infections. A proportion of these infections will progress to disease and subsequently be hospitalised. Note that onward transmission in the community from infectious staff is not included.

Adding only those hospital-linked community cases who end up being hospitalised into the estimation of the contribution of nosocomial infections to the first wave gives an estimate of 31.4% of infections in hospital that are nosocomial or due to transmission from a nosocomial case

Going on to discuss the impact in England overall the paper says:

Whilst the proportion of hospitalised COVID-19 cases that are linked to hospital transmission is considerable, at the population level, the proportion is relatively small. A simple calculation assuming 5% of infections are hospitalised and of these hospital cases, if 25% are due to nosocomial infection, the complete prevention of nosocomial transmission would have led to approximately 1% impact on the number of infections in the English epidemic overall. However, since hospitalised patients tend to be old and/or frail, the impact in terms of morbidity and mortality would nonetheless be expected to be substantial.

An exploration of the counterfactual (i.e. numbers of hospital admissions of COVID-19 cases in the absence of nosocomial transmission) shows little impact of nosocomial transmission initially, but in the last quarter of the first wave the impact of nosocomial transmission may have been to prolong the epidemic (potentially by several weeks)

Worth reading in full.

The paper is heavily caveated, of course, stating at the top that it makes some large assumptions about cases during a period of limited testing. But these are numbers which, according to the the Telegraph, the Government was reluctant to disclose:

SAGE minutes show that experts have been aware of the paper since October, but the Government has repeatedly refused to release it until now and rejected a Freedom of Information request from the Telegraph to see the modelling.

The paper supports the case that lockdown sceptics have been making for some time, namely, that a key problem to be tackled in respect of COVID-19 is transmission in hospitals and care homes, and is not addressed by stay-at-home orders or mask mandates. The Telegraph quotes Paul Hunter, Professor in Medicine at the University of East Anglia.

“This is not that surprising. As a country, we did not manage the first wave of the epidemic at all well, especially as regards the protection of our most vulnerable individuals and our healthcare and care workers.

“The exact proportion of people with a nosocomial depends in part on how you define that. The 40% figure is probably too high, but maybe not by that much. But a high risk of hospital-associated infection is an expected outcome of a situation where we were not able to provide adequate supplies of PPE to healthcare workers.”

Worth reading in full.

Deepest Recession Since the Great Frost in 1709

Telegraph

Figures released yesterday by the ONS indicate that GDP fell by 9.9% in 2020 – twice as bad as that sustained during the crash in 2009 and the largest annual fall since the Great Frost of 1709. A double dip recession was, however, averted by a 1% rise which was to a large extent due to a boost in output from the Government’s test and trace programmes. The pandemic alone would have caused a fall in output, but it was undoubtedly exacerbated by lockdowns and other Government restrictions. The UK has recorded the largest drop in output in the G7, partly because of differences in the way that is is measured, and partly because of the stringency of the UK restrictions, according to a recent ONS blog.

Another reason for the larger fall in UK GDP is that although the UK’s lockdown restrictions were imposed later than in many other countries, they have generally been tighter and imposed for longer.

These figures are grim, but there is some optimism that the rapid rollout of the vaccine, assuming it leads to the easing of restrictions. will cause a recovery driven by a surge of activity and spending. This is best expressed by Bank of England Chief Economist Andy Haldane in the Daily Mail.

The rapid rollout of the vaccination programme across the UK means a decisive corner has been turned in the battle against Covid.

A decisive corner is about to be turned for the economy too, with enormous amounts of pent-up financial energy waiting to be released, like a coiled spring.

With 13 million of the most vulnerable people already vaccinated, the risk of death or hospitalisation in the UK has already probably halved…

Having been bottled in for a year, most people are desperate to get their lives, including their social lives, back.

When given the opportunity to do so safely, they will seize it. Shared social experiences – from pubs to sports to cinema – will I think be a big beneficiary of this pent-up demand. We had an early glimpse of this last summer when people chose, with only a small amount of financial encouragement, to eat out to help out.

It is good to be optimistic but for this to be realised we surely need to dispense with the Great Reopening hesitancy due to the fear of mutant variants. Early indications suggest the easing of restrictions is going to be a long drawn out process. The Mirror has more.

The plan for exiting lockdown hinges on social distancing rules and the wearing of masks lasting until at least autumn, it has been reported…

The Prime Minister said previously that schools will be the first to open, possibly on March 8th – although has left other details vague.

But it is now claimed that one key aspect of the lifting of lockdown will be people wearing masks and following social distancing rules for months to come.

While some business will, by now, have worked out how to keep going regardless of what nonsense they’re expected to comply with, this ongoing uncertainty will take a heavy toll on individuals and households. That is clear in a report issued yesterday by the Financial Conduct Authority. The Mail has more.

A quarter of households fear they will struggle to make ends meet, while one in three expect their income to fall.

The numbers with “low financial resilience” – which means they are battling with debt, have low levels of savings or erratic earnings – have risen from 10.7 million to 14.2 million.

This means a quarter of the UK population would struggle to cope with even a small financial shock such seeing a £50 drop in their monthly income.

There are also now 27.7million adults who are considered vulnerable because of poor health, low financial resilience or events such as redundancy.

Experts described the figures as ‘harrowing’ and ‘startling’. And the Financial Conduct Authority warned it is likely that the picture has got even worse since it conducted the survey of more than 22,000 individuals in October.

A similar report was published by the Joseph Rowntree Foundation on February 10th, this one looking at the post-lockdown employment prospects of the currently unemployed.

First, a look at the types of jobs on offer online in September last year shows us a strong tilt towards higher-paid roles. More than a quarter were for professional occupations. In contrast, a similar share of vacancies covers all three of the roles defined as requiring lower skills: ‘elementary’ roles such as cleaners, security guard and labourers, sales and customer services roles, and roles operating machines or routine processes.

Second, this breakdown is compared with the roles last done by people who were unemployed between June and September, and so searching for work among these vacancies. The most obvious difference is a much smaller share who lost professional jobs, just 13%. A much greater share of them were in customer service roles or elementary occupations.

Worth reading in full.

What Connection Does Gibraltar’s High Covid Death Rate Have With the Vaccines, if Any?

We are publishing an original piece today by Neville Hodgkinson, a veteran medical and science correspondent and a Lockdown Sceptics regular. He has looked at the high COVID-19 death rate in Gibraltar.

Gibraltar’s 34,000 residents are unwitting participants in the battle against COVID-19 that may hold lessons for the rest of the world – on the one hand, as a success story, and on the other, as a tragic mystery.

Since the start of a vaccination programme on January 9th, about two thirds of the tiny British enclave’s population has received the Pfizer/BioNTech jab. Only 3.5% declined it, and with a new delivery being rolled out, Dr Krish Rawal, acting Medical Director of the Gibraltar Health Authority, said this week that community protection could be close and “a normal summer” expected.

The mystery, however, is that with 83 deaths related to the disease so far, Gibraltar currently has the highest COVID-19 death rate in the world.

The first was only registered in mid-November last year. By January 6th the toll rose to 10, and by January 18th it had more than quadrupled to 45, prompting Chief Minister Fabian Picardo to tell a news conference:

“This is now the worst loss of life of Gibraltarians in over 100 years. Even in war, we have never lost so many in such a short time.“

The fact that some of these deaths occurred at the same time as the vaccine rollout led to claims on social media that the jab could be responsible, a claim denied by the Gibraltar Health Authority. In a statement issued on January 27th it said only six of those who had died at that point had received the vaccine. All but one were care home residents, and all had died for unrelated reasons.

Nevertheless, the loss of so many lives over such a short period in such a small community seems to demand explanation.

Worth reading in full.

Stop Press: The Times of Israel reports good news about the country’s vaccine rollout: zero deaths among the 523,000 fully vaccinated Israelis.

Another Flaw in Imperial College’s Modelling

There follows a guest post by a Lockdown Sceptics reader prompted by yesterday’s contribution by Glen Bishop.

I read with interest today’s piece entitled “Imperial College Modelling Falsely Assumes No Seasonality to COVID-19”. While I found it interesting and valid I feel that it missed another, far more obvious flaw in the good Professor Ferguson’s analysis.

Imperial College’s paper is dated 2020-01-14. I assume that this is a typo and should read 2021.

The paper appears to describe how the model arrives at various conclusions on the death rate, hospitalisation rate, etc. Its assumptions are telling:

1. It assumes an R value of 0.8 – 1.2 as a starting point. This seems reasonable and supported by current data.

2.    It goes into some detail about the varying efficacy rates of the major vaccines and vaccination rates as being the major force driving down COVID-19 transmission, infections and mortality. This seems reasonable as it is based upon tangible vaccine efficacy data. However, as your author commented, there seems to be no documented provision for reduction due to seasonality or natural immunity (due to previous infection).

3.    There is an assumption that the final R value at the end of July will be 2.8 – 4.0. This is the antagonistic counterpart that will drive up infections and mortality and is described as the way that lifting lockdown incrementally has been modelled.
            i)    This requires that the R value is directly and proportionately linked to the Government’s severity of NPIs – something that is questionable at best and not supported by the data that I have seen.
            ii)   Published R rates on gov.uk have never exceeded 1.6 (upper bound) although data only commences at the end of May 2020 so misses out the Spring Pandemic.

Using Our World in Data gives R values on a day-by-day basis starting in early March 2020. I can only find 2 days where the R value is over 4 and a further 2 that were over 2.8 and these were all at the height of the Spring pandemic. If you choose an end point that is is as bad as the worst point in the Spring pandemic and build that into your assumptions as the goal of the model then it should be no surprise that the predictions will be gloomy as well as being totally unrealistic.

In the Spring pandemic we were caught by surprise with a population that largely had no immunity. We now have some natural immunity being supplemented by a rapidly deployed vaccination program and are heading into the Spring which should bring a seasonal decline. For Imperial College to set an R rate at the end of July that is as high as it was in the worst part of the Spring pandemic in their primary assumptions appears to me to be creating a circular argument whereby choosing the end point determines the output.

Focused Protection Ageism

Training Journal

An article in Foreign Policy, a U.S. magazine, describes how “ageism has coloured the response to COVID-19 and is setting everyone up for a more difficult economic recovery”.

According to Fast Company, in the next 30 years, the number of people aged 60 and older will rise to 2 billion, up from 900 million in 2015. But ageism may be on the rise in the COVID-19 economy. In 2013, 64% of all U.S. workers said they had seen or experienced workplace age discrimination. Even though the Age Discrimination in Employment Act of 1967 forbids discrimination against anyone aged 40 or older, it is not practiced in reality. As a case in point, according to AARP, “during the first six months of the pandemic, workers aged 55 and older were 17% more likely to lose their jobs than employees who were just a few years younger”.

Unfortunately, the article provides a very poor summary of the sceptics’ case.

Meanwhile, resentment about the lockdowns, which have been justified as a way largely to protect more susceptible older people, is growing. Signatories of the Great Barrington Declaration, which promoted the idea of focusing on herd immunity to combat the pandemic, and members of the Lockdown Sceptics movement have even effectively suggested that the world sacrifice the safety of the older generation for the sake of the economy.

Needless to say, that is not the argument put forward by the Great Barrington declaration, which states:

The most compassionate approach that balances the risks and benefits of reaching herd immunity, is to allow those who are at minimal risk of death to live their lives normally to build up immunity to the virus through natural infection, while better protecting those who are at highest risk. We call this Focused Protection. 

Adopting measures to protect the vulnerable should be the central aim of public health responses to COVID-19. By way of example, nursing homes should use staff with acquired immunity and perform frequent testing of other staff and all visitors. Staff rotation should be minimized. Retired people living at home should have groceries and other essentials delivered to their home. When possible, they should meet family members outside rather than inside.

The FP article point outs that in most European countries the opposite of Focused Protection was achieved, but that can hardly be laid at the door of lockdown sceptics.

Approximately half of the total European coronavirus deaths occurred in care homes, where they were not prioritized in emergency response measures. Indeed, in many instances, older patients received less care; in Italy, Spain, and Sweden, younger people seem to have been prioritized by doctors, contributing to those countries’ high death rates.

Stop Press: Writing in the Times of India, Prof Ramesh Thakur says shameless emotional manipulation has shaped too much of global Covid policy.

We’re Not All In It Together

We are publishing an original article today by Dr Alberto Giublini, a Research Fellow in Bioethics at the University of Oxford. He takes aim at the platitudinous claim that “we are all in it together” and points out that the burden of the lockdown policy is disproportionately borne by the young.

The idea that “we are all in it together” has polluted ethical reflection about lockdown. Slogans often do that. At best, the idea is misleading. At worst, it is simply false. In either case, it has turned ethical analysis of lockdown into ideological moralism.

COVID-19 did not put us in it together. That slogan is a legacy of the initial uncertainty around the virus. In February – March 2020, we knew very little about it and we thought it was way more dangerous and lethal across all population groups. We now know COVID-19 is a serious threat to the elderly and certain vulnerable groups. But to young people, it is not (that is, if we look at the data, not at individual stories). The mortality rate is estimated to be below 0.1% in the under 40s, to double approximately every eight years, and to rise above 5% in the over 80s. The mortality rate of COVID-19 in children is comparable to that of chickenpox, that is, almost non-existent. “Long-covid” is often invoked to justify restrictions also for the young, but it has a similar pattern to mortality rates: the risk is low for the young and increases with age. This does not mean that COVID-19 is a made up problem or that we should not take it seriously. But it does mean that it is a very serious threat for a limited portion of the population.

So we are not in it together because of the virus. Blaming the virus for the costs imposed by restrictions is wrong, although it is not uncommon. For example, when the BBC asks “How has coronavirus affected mental health?”, it should really be asking how restrictions have affected mental health.

We are only in it together because we have decided to put ourselves in it together by having indiscriminate and very tight restrictions. We could have decided otherwise, as for example Sweden did by avoiding lockdowns and better protecting basic liberties and the economy while having a much lower COVID-19 mortality than many European and Western countries.

Dr Giublini argues that we need to face up to the fact that young people are paying the lion’s share of the cost of the lockdown measures, instead of pretending they affect everyone equally, and have a grown up discussion about whether those costs are too high.

Worth reading in full.

Postcard From Georgia

Today we’re publishing a new addition to our series of postcards from readers around the world. This one comes from Mark Percario in Helen, a Bavarian-style town in Georgia, USA, one of the states that has stayed open for the most part, and gone easy on the restrictions. Here is an extract.

The photo above is at the entrance of Mully’s Nacoochee Grill where the servers wore masks but there were no special requirements to enter or enjoy a great meal with live music. There was complete normalcy at the Two Tire Tavern where the only self-suffocation devices seen were on some of the customers.

We very much appreciated Helen’s approach to restrictions or lack thereof. The photo of the signage tells it all – each individual is responsible for the risks they take, and Georgia will not allow you to blame someone else! I remember seeing a couple that were obviously on a break from working standing on the sidewalk smoking cigarettes with masks around their chins. Better save yourself from inhaling the Chinese virus but who cares if you give up smoking!

Watching the behaviour of the people mulling around Helen was most interesting. It was very obvious where everyone was on the mask wearing adherence spectrum. They fell into one of three categories – the die-hard militants, the fence sitters and the contrarians and I found it fascinating that it was so easy to identify what group each person fell into. The whole mask wearing thing is akin to an initiation ritual.

I would highly recommend traveling to a state like Georgia where the restrictions are not so pervasive, and things seem a whole lot more normal. There was live music at many venues, and everyone was in a cheerful mood. Georgia’s neighbours South Carolina and Florida have taken a similar approach and I would expect great experiences there as well.

Worth reading in full.

Lock-Down-Under

The Australian Open is to proceed without spectators

The State of Victoria in Australia has embarked on a snap five-day lockdown, which State Premier Daniel Andrews declared in response to the “hyper-infectivity” of the UK variant, which has now made its way over there. So much for Australia’s successful Zero Covid strategy. Melbourne-based musician Ricky Allpike, whose lockdown anthem we have featured on this site, has emailed us with his thoughts.

I regret to inform you that as of today we have entered our third lockdown.

You might have met some bawdy and fun Aussies on your travels, but there’s nothing charming about the way we do lockdown, at least in Victoria. Public gatherings are banned, face masks are required by law and there is a 5km limit if you need to leave your home. The police are forced to drop their normal duties and become that teacher at recess making sure you’ve got your shirt tucked in… oh and let’s not forget charging you with incitement for your Facebook posts.

For 112 days last year, we endured the world’s longest and strictest COVID lockdown. I looked on in disbelief as most of our freedoms were taken away by the State Government. I watched helpless as the mental, physical, emotional and financial health of my friends and family was eroded. The salt in the wound was the complete absence of critical thought and zero tolerance for debate around these drastic measures.

During lockdown, Melbourne became unrecognisable – a wasteland where it was commonplace to rat out your neighbours for breaking curfew and to chide food workers for a slipped mask. If you were part of the managerial class, able to write emails and attend Zoom meetings in your trackpants, lockdown was a lark. But for many, the despair faced by 23 hours confined at home was extreme.

“It’s the only way” they say. Yet I have friends in Sydney enjoying the sun and sand as I write this. Our most populous city has four times as many quarantined travellers (around 124,000 to Melbourne’s 35,000) but the Sydneysiders are allowed to leave their home for more than an hour today. So, it seems there are other ways.

I have no idea whether lockdowns are effective or not. I am no politician, nor am I an activist. I am an artist. So during those 112 days of confinement, I did the only thing I could. I wrote a song. “Chase Dreams” is a lockdown anthem documenting the experience and feeling of life in Melbourne in the year 2020.

Stop Press: RT repots that furious anti-lockdown protestors descended on the Australian Open (now closed) ahead of Victoria’s ‘circuit-breaker’ Covid restrictions. Includes videos.

Round-up

  • “R number falls below 1 as Covid rates drop faster than expected” – The Times reports that once again Covid has confounded expectations
  • “Scientists urge Boris to keep brakes on for two more months as PM prepares to announce roadmap out of lockdown” – The Daily Mail reports that some SAGE members want Boris to go slow on the journey out of lockdown
  • “We hope to live with Covid like flu by end of the year, says Matt Hancock” – The Telegraph interviews the Health Secretary about his hopes for the future.
  • “Charities urge clarity over who qualifies for next UK vaccine wave” – The Guardian reports the fears of charities that ‘at risk’, vulnerable people are not being prioritised for vaccination
  • “SAGE scientists seeking five minutes of fame must be reined in – pontificating helps no one” – The Telegraph‘s Olivia Utley has a message for the scientists whispering in Boris’s ear
  • “I’m living in a country that won’t let me out” – In her column in the Spectator, Lionel Shriver warns the UK against copying the Australian policy on Covid-secure borders
  • “It’s high time Europe’s lockdown rebellion spread to Britain” – Sonia Elijah issues a call to the barricades in the Conservative Woman
  • “This endless lockdown cycle grows more sinister by the day” – Again in the Conservative Woman, Neil McCarthy worries that the lockdown exit date is constantly being pushed back
  • “Thou shalt not question public health! Censorship in the age of Covid” – An anonymous contribution to Montreal Counter-Information, an anarchist publication, wonders at the silence of radicals in the face of oppressive state measures made in the name of health
  • “Spanish Government extends travel restrictions on arrivals from the UK, South Africa and Brazil” – A general update in El Pais, including the news that Basque Country bars and restaurants will be temporarily reopening after mounting a legal challenge against their closure
  • “Remember Covid?’: As cases surge in European countries, the existential dread is gone in Australia” – The Telegraph reports that as far as some parts of Australia are concerned, Covid fear and dread is a thing of the past – a piece hastily updated when Chairman Dan imposed yet another lockdown
  • “Victoria snap lockdown a ‘grotesque overreaction’: Bolt” – Andrew Bolt weighs in on Dan Andrew’s snap lockdown on Sky News Australia
  • “What Disney can teach us about COVID-19: Lockdowns Fail” – ReasonTV looks at how Disney theme parks have managed the crisis in California and Florida and concludes, not surprisingly, that the park in Florida has done better
  • Julia Hartley-Brewer conducted a poll about lockdowns on Twitter and the results tell a very different story to YouGov and the rest

QUESTION: When should lockdown end? Please retweet to share widely.

— Julia Hartley-Brewer (@JuliaHB1) February 11, 2021

Theme Tunes Suggested by Readers

Ten today: “Things Have Changed” by Bob Dylan, “Song Safety Dance” by Men Without Hats, “In My Room” by the Beach Boys, “Dazed and Confused” by Led Zeppelin, “Freedom” by the Magic Mushroom Band, “(Don’t Let ‘Em) Grind You Down” by Motorhead, “There’s No Power Without Control” by Conflict, “Too Much Pressure” by The Selecter, “No Pussy Blues” by Grinderman and “Everyday Is Exactly The Same” by Nine Inch Nails.

Love in the Time of Covid

Faye Dunaway and Warren Beatty as Bonnie and Clyde

We have created some Lockdown Sceptics Forums, including a dating forum called “Love in a Covid Climate” that has attracted a bit of attention – perfect if you’re partnerless on Valentine’s Day. We have a team of moderators in place to remove spam and deal with the trolls, but sometimes it takes a little while so please bear with us. You have to register to use the Forums as well as post comments below the line, but that should just be a one-time thing. Any problems, email Lockdown Sceptics here.

Sharing Stories

Some of you have asked how to link to particular stories on Lockdown Sceptics so you can share it. To do that, click on the headline of a particular story and a link symbol will appear on the right-hand side of the headline. Click on the link and the URL of your page will switch to the URL of that particular story. You can then copy that URL and either email it to your friends or post it on social media. Please do share the stories.

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Woke Gobbledegook

We’ve decided to create a permanent slot down here for woke gobbledegook. Today, we bring you the report of a conference recently held at Churchill College, Cambridge whose participants claimed that the war time leader was a white supremacist leading an empire that was “worse than the Nazis“. The Telegraph has the details.

Winston Churchill was a white supremacist leading an empire “worse than the Nazis”, according to an academic panel at a Cambridge college named in his honour…

The Empire he led against Nazi Germany in the Second World War was branded morally poorer than the Third Reich, and the view that a virtuous Britain defeated the genocidal state was deemed a “problematic narrative”.

Professor Kehinde Andrews, author of The Psychosis of Whiteness, said Churchill was: “The perfect embodiment of white supremacy.”

He claimed that this supremacist view dominated the politics of the day, and currently dominates in post-Imperial Britain, adding: “The British Empire was far worse than the Nazis and lasted far longer.

“That’s just a fact.  But if you state something like that it’s like heresy.”

Panellists agreed that discussing Churchill was an emotive subject because he had become beyond reproach, something which belied a historical problem of “lionising dead white men”, according to Prof Andrews.

Fellow panellist Dr Onyeka Nubia noted that Churchill’s History of the English Speaking Peoples made use of the language of white supremacy through the veiled terms “English Speaking Peoples” and “Anglo-Saxon”.

Dr Madhusree Mukerjee argued that the Prime Minister viewed Indians as “rabbits”, and his policies had a direct role in the Bengal Famine of 1943. 

She further argued that “militarism is the core of the British identity”, and statues celebrating this should be taken down, adding: “It was the Soviets who defeated the Nazis and the Americans who defeated the Japanese.”

Historian Dr Zareer Masani wrote to the Cambridge College before the event warning that its panel lacked historical expertise and aimed only to “vilify” Churchill.

Andrew Roberts, author of Churchill: Walking with Destiny, described the panels’ claims as  “libels” that are “entirely factually incorrect”. 

He added: “A white supremacist wants bad things to happen to non-whites… Churchill fought to protect the hundreds of millions of non-whites in the Empire. 

Worth reading in full or, if you’re a real glutton for punishment, watching in full.

Stop Press: Writing for Spiked, actor James Dreyfus notes that comedy was classed as an ‘at risk’ genre in a recent Ofcom report on the BBC and he wonders if it can survive our puritanical age:

Joking around is now a somewhat precarious affair, lest offence is taken, and, like mad dogs playing Chinese Whispers, your ‘joke’ could be the end of you. Cancel culture is very real, contrary to what some ‘commentators’ might tell you. I, myself, have been a victim of it, blatantly and publicly.

A friend on Twitter, commenting recently on the decline of comedy, said this was both because humour has become tribalised and because “any joke brings with it the risk of cancellation… Why take the risk of trying to be funny?” An astute observation.

Worth reading in full.

Stop Press 2: “Being woke is very important,” says the Babylon Bee, “in order to show the world that you’re a good person, and also to avoid having your entire life wrecked by a Twitter mob.” Find out how to be properly woke from the satirical news site’s definitive guide.

“Mask Exempt” Lanyards

We’ve created a one-stop shop down here for people who want to obtain a “Mask Exempt” lanyard/card – because wearing a mask causes them “severe distress”, for instance. You can print out and laminate a fairly standard one for free here and the Government has instructions on how to download an official “Mask Exempt” notice to put on your phone here. And if you feel obliged to wear a mask but want to signal your disapproval of having to do so, you can get a “sexy world” mask with the Swedish flag on it here.

A reader has started a website that contains some useful guidance about how you can claim legal exemption. Another reader has created an Android app which displays “I am exempt from wearing a face mask” on your phone. Only 99p.

If you’re a shop owner and you want to let your customers know you will not be insisting on face masks or asking them what their reasons for exemption are, you can download a friendly sign to stick in your window here.

And here’s an excellent piece about the ineffectiveness of masks by a Roger W. Koops, who has a doctorate in organic chemistry. See also the Swiss Doctor’s thorough review of the scientific evidence here and Prof Carl Heneghan and Dr Tom Jefferson’s Spectator article about the Danish mask study here.

Stop Press: President Biden has told Americans to wear masks until at least 2022, the New York Post reports. There is a video too but you may not be able to make out what the President is saying behind his mask so it might be best to focus on the report.

The President told reporters during a visit to the National Institutes of Health complex that he would not take his mask off even though he was standing more than 10 feet away from Dr Anthony Fauci and NIH Director Dr Francis Collins.

“You know that wearing this mask through the next year here can save lives – a significant number of lives,” Biden said. “And so I apologise if you don’t hear me as clearly as you, maybe you should…

“The new strains emerging create immense challenges, and masking is still the easiest thing to do to save lives. But we need everyone to mask up.”

“I know it’s a pain in the neck, but it’s a patriotic responsibility.”

This is despite the country having enough supply of vaccines to inoculate 300 million by the Summer.

The Great Barrington Declaration

Professor Martin Kulldorff, Professor Sunetra Gupta and Professor Jay Bhattacharya

The Great Barrington Declaration, a petition started by Professor Martin Kulldorff, Professor Sunetra Gupta and Professor Jay Bhattacharya calling for a strategy of “Focused Protection” (protect the elderly and the vulnerable and let everyone else get on with life), was launched in October and the lockdown zealots have been doing their best to discredit it ever since. If you googled it a week after launch, the top hits were three smear pieces from the Guardian, including: “Herd immunity letter signed by fake experts including ‘Dr Johnny Bananas’.” (Freddie Sayers at UnHerd warned us about this the day before it appeared.) On the bright side, Google UK has stopped shadow banning it, so the actual Declaration now tops the search results – and Toby’s Spectator piece about the attempt to suppress it is among the top hits – although discussion of it has been censored by Reddit. In February, Facebook deleted the GBD’s page because it “goes against our community standards”. The reason the zealots hate it, of course, is that it gives the lie to their claim that “the science” only supports their strategy. These three scientists are every bit as eminent – more eminent – than the pro-lockdown fanatics so expect no let up in the attacks. (Wikipedia has also done a smear job.)

You can find it here. Please sign it. Now over three quarters of a million signatures.

Update: The authors of the GBD have expanded the FAQs to deal with some of the arguments and smears that have been made against their proposal. Worth reading in full.

Update 2: Many of the signatories of the Great Barrington Declaration are involved with new UK anti-lockdown campaign Recovery. Find out more and join here.

Update 3: You can watch Sunetra Gupta set out the case for “Focused Protection” here and Jay Bhattacharya make it here.

Update 4: The three GBD authors plus Prof Carl Heneghan of CEBM have launched a new website collateralglobal.org, “a global repository for research into the collateral effects of the COVID-19 lockdown measures”. Follow Collateral Global on Twitter here. Sign up to the newsletter here.

Judicial Reviews Against the Government

There are now so many legal cases being brought against the Government and its ministers we thought we’d include them all in one place down here.

The Simon Dolan case has now reached the end of the road. The current lead case is the Robin Tilbrook case which challenges whether the Lockdown Regulations are constitutional, although that case, too, has been refused permission to proceed. There’s still one more thing that can be tried. You can read about that and contribute here.

Then there’s John’s Campaign which is focused specifically on care homes. Find out more about that here.

There’s the GoodLawProject and Runnymede Trust’s Judicial Review of the Government’s award of lucrative PPE contracts to various private companies. You can find out more about that here and contribute to the crowdfunder here.

Scottish Church leaders from a range of Christian denominations have launched legal action, supported by the Christian Legal Centre against the Scottish Government’s attempt to close churches in Scotland  for the first time since the the Stuart kings in the 17th century. The church leaders emphasised it is a disproportionate step, and one which has serious implications for freedom of religion.”  Further information available here and there is a good video with some of the church leaders involved here. UPDATE: The case is set to be heard remotely on March 11th and March 12th.

There’s the class action lawsuit being brought by Dr Reiner Fuellmich and his team in various countries against “the manufacturers and sellers of the defective product, PCR tests”. Dr Fuellmich explains the lawsuit in this video. Dr Fuellmich has also served cease and desist papers on Professor Christian Drosten, co-author of the Corman-Drosten paper which was the first and WHO-recommended PCR protocol for detection of SARS-CoV-2. That paper, which was pivotal to the roll out of mass PCR testing, was submitted to the journal Eurosurveillance on January 21st and accepted following peer review on January 22nd. The paper has been critically reviewed here by Pieter Borger and colleagues, who also submitted a retraction request, which was rejected in February.

And last but not least there was the Free Speech Union‘s challenge to Ofcom over its ‘coronavirus guidance’. A High Court judge refused permission for the FSU’s judicial review on December 9th and the FSU has decided not to appeal the decision because Ofcom has conceded most of the points it was making. Check here for details.

Stop Press: A new case looks set to be heading for court, as Local Government Lawyer reports that a judge has granted the Night-Time Economy Adviser for Greater Manchester and two other residents of the city permission for a legal challenge over the restriction on serving alcohol unless it is with a table meal.

Our High Court case vs the Government. We want the meal condition dropped when hospitality reopens. The views from Judge Pearce on why we have an argument. As our legal team prepare for the 2 day trial, I’ll keep you updated.

Sacha Lord, Twitter

Samaritans

If you are struggling to cope, please call Samaritans for free on 116 123 (UK and ROI), email jo@samaritans.org or visit the Samaritans website to find details of your nearest branch. Samaritans is available round the clock, every single day of the year, providing a safe place for anyone struggling to cope, whoever they are, however they feel, whatever life has done to them.

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Rich
Rich
5 years ago

It gives me strength to know that all our striving is not in vain. It may seem that we are inflicted by a random and pitiless fate, but there is value in facing adversity. It is a greater affliction never to have been afflicted.

Stay strong folks, this will not last forever. Mass hysteria will eventually die down, and in the meantime we need to steel ourselves to fight for the world our children and grandchildren will inherit.

“The weak indulge in resolutions, but the strong act.”

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Marcus Junius Brutus
Marcus Junius Brutus
5 years ago
Reply to  Rich

Also, Fuck You Boris

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Lockdown Sceptic
Lockdown Sceptic
5 years ago
Reply to  Marcus Junius Brutus

Uk Police Catch Saucy Couple Doing A Bit Of Dartmoor Dogging
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AutekwKhAGU&list=WL&index=31
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It’s high time Europe’s lockdown rebellion spread to Britain
By
Sonia Elijah
February 12, 2021
https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/its-high-time-europes-lockdown-rebellion-spread-to-britain/

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TJN
TJN
5 years ago
Reply to  Lockdown Sceptic

The sex-in-a-car episode from down the road from here. It actually isn’t funny. If two people want to share sex, then how to God have we reached the position whereby the State says it’s not allowed?

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Boris Bullshit
Boris Bullshit
5 years ago
Reply to  TJN

Very true….I don’t think that would have happened even in communist dictatorships….in many ways we now have less freedom than they did.

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HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
5 years ago
Reply to  Boris Bullshit

At least in older communist dictatorships they weren’t able track your every movement with your slave slab.

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MiriamW-sometimes-AlanG
MiriamW-sometimes-AlanG
5 years ago
Reply to  HelenaHancart

True – that’s why we strongly recommend not carrying one! Why hand it to them on a plate? MW

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Annie
Annie
5 years ago
Reply to  Boris Bullshit

They were not literally muzzled and kept in isolation.

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Lockdown Sceptic
Lockdown Sceptic
5 years ago
Reply to  Boris Bullshit

THOUSANDS Gather In Austria Vienna / Hugo Talks #lockdown

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_ejbzAymtY

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Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
5 years ago
Reply to  TJN

1984/Sex crime!

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Annie
Annie
5 years ago
Reply to  Fingerache Philip

If you enjoy anything, it’s a crime. Ask Turdgeon. Or Foetida Dick.

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DJ Dod
DJ Dod
5 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Or Judge Death, from 2000AD: ‘The crime is life. The sentence is death.’

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Spikedee1
Spikedee1
5 years ago
Reply to  TJN

Why are the police driving around at that time of night in a field? Are there no proper crimes at that time of night, you know young people getting stabbed? This might be the only way this couple can meet, exactly what covid laws were they breaking? If they are in the middle of a field who are they upsetting. Just more police overreaching. We no longer consent!

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TJN
TJN
5 years ago
Reply to  Spikedee1

As I recall, they were parked up in a car – easy prey for a patrol car in the dead of night.

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Boris Bullshit
Boris Bullshit
5 years ago
Reply to  TJN

The filth are sad bastards…never again would I help them out in any situation…I am done with them for ever.

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RichardJames
RichardJames
5 years ago
Reply to  Boris Bullshit

Amen, in spades.

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Bella Donna
Bella Donna
5 years ago
Reply to  Spikedee1

they were probably up for a bit of dogging themselves and were beaten to it.

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Rowan
Rowan
5 years ago
Reply to  Spikedee1

I don’t care if they are breaking Covid laws. Covid laws are meant to be broken. We should all do it, often.

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Janette
Janette
5 years ago
Reply to  Rowan

Agreed

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houdini
houdini
5 years ago
Reply to  TJN

i advise the ladies concerned to report the police officers for committing the offence of voyeurism contrary to s57 of the Sexual Offences Act 2003 (assuming they did not consent to being watched)

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Elisabeth
Elisabeth
5 years ago
Reply to  TJN

As long as everyone involved is a consenting adult whose business is that?

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Freddy Boy
Freddy Boy
5 years ago
Reply to  Lockdown Sceptic

Bring it on ! The rebellion not the dogging , hang on though 🤦🏼‍♂️

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albert hall
albert hall
5 years ago
Reply to  Lockdown Sceptic

And it won’t. Shopkeepers are just as gullible as the rest of the population.

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Freddy Boy
Freddy Boy
5 years ago
Reply to  Marcus Junius Brutus

Yes , with bells on !!..

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Lockdown Sceptic
Lockdown Sceptic
5 years ago
Reply to  Marcus Junius Brutus

Record-high number of suicidal children forces San Francisco to sue its own school district to reopen
NEWS
There’s a 66% increase in the number of suicidal children in the emergency room

https://www.theblaze.com/news/suicides-children-san-francisco-schools-reopen?utm_source=theblaze-breaking&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=New-Trending-Story_WEEKEND%202021-02-13&utm_term=ACTIVE%20LIST%20-%20TheBlaze%20Breaking%20News

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Tom Blackburn
Tom Blackburn
5 years ago
Reply to  Rich

Rich – your post put me in mind of the following passage in Albert Camus’ The Plague. NOT to be read literally, the germ in this book is an allegory for the spread of totalitarianism.

“It’s a wearying business being plague-stricken. But it’s still more wearying to refuse to be it” – Tarrou

https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/403028-i-know-positively—yes-rieux-i-can-say-i

“What’s natural is the microbe. All the rest- health, integrity, purity if you like – is a product of the human will of vigilance that must never falter”.

Last edited 5 years ago by Tom Blackburn
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Rich
Rich
5 years ago
Reply to  Tom Blackburn

Good one Tom – it does take energy, and sometimes we get weary, but we will prevail!!

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Tom Blackburn
Tom Blackburn
5 years ago
Reply to  Rich

We absolutely will.

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Still Got It
Still Got It
5 years ago
Reply to  Tom Blackburn

Haven’t read this so just ordered.

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Tom Blackburn
Tom Blackburn
5 years ago
Reply to  Still Got It

You won’t regret it 👍🏻
After that I’m recommending The Stranger which covers the arbitrariness of life and it’s silly made-up rules. Also what happens to people who don’t play the game 😳

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AidanR
AidanR
5 years ago
Reply to  Tom Blackburn

You won’t regret it 👍🏻

You might 🙂

The Stranger (a.k.a. The Outsider, a.k.a L’Étranger) is magnificent though.

When the moment comes, please do play Killing an Arab by The Cure.

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Tom Blackburn
Tom Blackburn
5 years ago
Reply to  AidanR

It’s redemptive 😉

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crimsonpirate
crimsonpirate
5 years ago
Reply to  Tom Blackburn

read that Autumn 2019- it was a small glimpse into the near future

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Nigel Sherratt
Nigel Sherratt
5 years ago
Reply to  Tom Blackburn

Also

All I maintain is that on this earth there are pestilences and there are victims and it’s up to us, so far as possible, not to join forces with the pestilences.

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Binra
Binra
5 years ago
Reply to  Tom Blackburn

The actively protected and funded belief in the pathological virus as a microbe, frames every other thought and reaction, as a mind trap, false flag or psyop. Virology is a ‘scientific’ mask for demonology. ‘Demons’ are externalised or projected agencies of fear, denial, hate and guilt. Others are assigned such characteristics as power over life while their operation through us is masked as virtue and necessity. In the conflict and denial is the attempt to escape blame as the penalty of exposure as a hatefulness of guilt to its penalty of vilification, exclusion and pain of loss. This is the mind of a masking manipulation, of false witness whereby the blame to another and to the world becomes the source of ‘salvation’ to a mind in fear and hiding. The social contagion of fear is the corruption of truth and trust to codes of distancing and evasion, in ritual forms that mask as joining in virtue, while actually lock-stepping in the evasion of exposure of fear, in mutual allegiance and support to the currencies or narratives that protect the mask, the distance and the belief that this is freedom for a self-alone, within a group or social ‘identity’ or mask.… Read more »

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Annie
Annie
5 years ago
Reply to  Rich

Thank you, Rich, that’s the right way to start the day!

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Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
5 years ago
Reply to  Rich

Remember 12 angry men.

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AN other lockdown sceptic
AN other lockdown sceptic
5 years ago
Reply to  Fingerache Philip

Very good call. Brilliant film.

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CGL
CGL
5 years ago
Reply to  Fingerache Philip

The Hancock’s Half Hour one?

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Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
5 years ago
Reply to  CGL

I had completely forgotten about the Hancock one.

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Woden
Woden
5 years ago
Reply to  Fingerache Philip

Maybe a remake of’ The Blood Donor’ with Peter Hitchens playing Hancock

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MikeMayUK
MikeMayUK
5 years ago
Reply to  Rich

I’m too far gone down the road on which I’m all too aware that the people we keep voting into office, particularly those who achieve the highest offices of state are, in the main, remarkably thick and more interested in retaining or gaining sufficient popularity to get themselves re-elected.

None of the Above [X]

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Ross Hendry
Ross Hendry
5 years ago
Reply to  MikeMayUK

Politics has always been showbusiness for ugly people. Forget principles and ideals, politicians are simply treading the boards in the fervent hope we don’t see through them and throw them out at the next GE.

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Bella Donna
Bella Donna
5 years ago
Reply to  Ross Hendry

Politics has always been showbusiness for ugly people
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and

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LMS2
LMS2
5 years ago
Reply to  MikeMayUK

Not necessarily thick or stupid, and I’m sure there are plenty who are, but overly selfish and ambitious. It’s not about what they can do for their country, but what the country can do for them.

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CGL
CGL
5 years ago
Reply to  LMS2

Well this doesn’t show them up as particularly intelligent does it:
https://twitter.com/polygenicity/status/1358475130507321354

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popo says
popo says
5 years ago
Reply to  CGL

They’re regular tossers, then, just not the coin variety…

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Cheezilla
Cheezilla
5 years ago
Reply to  MikeMayUK

When we talk about elections and who would be a good replacement PM, we are faced with the fact that the decent ones just don’t have what it takes.
Those of us who live from a basis of essential human decency find it hard to understand how the successful leaders in politics and multinational corporations operate. We might be temporarily capable of ruthlessness in order to protect our family, but we could never exhibit that sustained calculated callousness merely to further our own self-interest.

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Steven F
Steven F
5 years ago
Reply to  Cheezilla

Elegantly written. Do you mind if I quote that second para (with appropriate acknowledgement) in my forthcoming letter to my MP?

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Bungle
Bungle
5 years ago
Reply to  Cheezilla

That’s right. Take JC, for example – an LSE report (front page in pic) showed how the press consistently lied about him, his views and his actions, most notably labelling him an IRA sympathiser when he supported Paul Hill, wrongly convicted of the Guildford bombing.  The Sun story on the morning of Hill’s wedding was labelled ‘IRA Pig To Wed’. Interestingly, the LSE report says that the Guardian lied more often about Corbyn than the Daily Mail, preferring gut feelings to facts. Sound familiar???

Corbin.jpg
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RichardJames
RichardJames
5 years ago
Reply to  MikeMayUK

If there’s no box to vote for the Reform Party at the next election, then it’s a spoiled vote for me.

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FedupofLies
FedupofLies
5 years ago
Reply to  Rich

Our most important moral issue is to FIGHT THE MANDATORY VACCINE and stop the roll-out to CHILDREN.

This Big Pharma shakedown is also a costed human experimentation with suppressed short term side-effects and god knows what in the long term. Honest scholars like Dolores Cahill are warning about a ‘storm’ effect when the jabbed comes into contact with a cold.

THIS is the moral issue, as the treasonous scum are going to force people to take jabs frequently from Big Pharma and any deaths etc will be blamed on the disease.

Worldwide Day of Protest — #IDoNotComply

We must revolt en masse!

Our ONLY option!

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LMS2
LMS2
5 years ago
Reply to  FedupofLies

I’ve just posted a bit chute video of another doctor who does an excellent job of explaining how these new vaccines work, and in easy to understand terms.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/thgHE7VUsDrn/?utm_source=ActiveCampaign&utm_medium=email&utm_content=Dangers+of+Covid-19+Vaccine&utm_campaign=2+12+21+Dangers+of+Covid-19+Vaccine

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gipsy2222
gipsy2222
5 years ago
Reply to  LMS2

Last night the topic of vaccines came up. I explained to some friends that given my age and health the risks of covid are minimal and the jabs have limited evidence of efficacy and no long term safety data. I was shouted down as an anti-vax nutter. So they believe that they have the moral high ground because a man in a white coat told them to do it, and in any case a vaccine will be necessary to travel, work or socialise. Apparently I am a nutter because I thought informed consent meant doing some research to be informed about the vaccines, their trial data and the cost benefit. These educated people accepted that the covid risks for under 50s and children are very low but would not even consider my suggestion that blackmail by the government is not a good enough reason to take an experimental drug.

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Freecumbria
Freecumbria
5 years ago
Reply to  gipsy2222

If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you….

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albert hall
albert hall
5 years ago
Reply to  gipsy2222

You have to hand it to Hancockup and co they did a brilliant job with the propaganda. From low to high IQ the plebs fell for it. It’s the common sensers who actually thought it through.

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Hugh
Hugh
5 years ago
Reply to  albert hall

I suppose PPE degrees are good for teaching them the hard sell at least.

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sam s.j.
sam s.j.
5 years ago
Reply to  FedupofLies

i agree and also the masks the main things i despise

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Janette
Janette
5 years ago
Reply to  FedupofLies

I agree

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Dorian_Hawkmoon
Dorian_Hawkmoon
5 years ago
Reply to  Rich

Yeah it is tough being outspoken when all around are being credulous or fearful. I know I am doing the right thing but it isn’t easy to be isolated.

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Freddy Boy
Freddy Boy
5 years ago
Reply to  Rich

👏✅👍

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Banjones
Banjones
5 years ago
Reply to  Rich

I agree, Rich. We must stay strong, but it’s hard to do sometimes, especially if your nearest and dearest have an opposing view. Then life seems to be a constant struggle to avoid the elephant in the room.
I think Neil Oliver puts some of the problems very clearly in his interview on Talk Radio.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfggCDwT-JU

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Silver cat
Silver cat
5 years ago
Reply to  Rich

Punishment for the lockdown perpetrators will be cheered on by the people when we break out of this.

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Niborxof
Niborxof
5 years ago

We saved the NHS so it could kill half the Grannys.

Last edited 5 years ago by Niborxof
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Annie
Annie
5 years ago
Reply to  Niborxof

Go to hospital, get Covid, go home, stay home, infect everybody at home, save the NHS.

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Hugh_Manity
Hugh_Manity
5 years ago

With thanks to the Urban Dictionary; the definition of insanity:
“The state of suffering a severe psychiatric disease which causes extremely abnormal behaviour or loss of touch with reality (psychosis), most commonly associated with schizophrenia and bipolar illness (the manic phase).
King George suffered from bouts of insanity.”.

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Annie
Annie
5 years ago
Reply to  Hugh_Manity

Poor old G3 was a model of rationality compared to Bozo.

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
5 years ago
Reply to  Hugh_Manity

Good one. Here’s another, popularised by the American communication expert Dale Carnegie:

Insanity – seeking the importance in fantasy that they can’t get in real life.

I would include Sage in that definition

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Hugh_Manity
Hugh_Manity
5 years ago

It is truly a miracle. There has been no deaths attributed to flu.
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/ayrshire/no-flu-deaths-scotland-year-23477557.amp?fbclid=IwAR3wdMIG6bWOuzvW4c3eglbPvQ9LKXsT-dgvt8HKsP2L1mU4VaHYlHnO2r0&__twitter_impression=true

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FerdIII
FerdIII
5 years ago
Reply to  Hugh_Manity

Wancock and ‘Scientists’ say diapers, distancing etc…..they can’t explain the spread of CV 19 however which is part of the flu family…..

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rockoman
rockoman
5 years ago
Reply to  FerdIII

They also can’t explain the disappearance of flu in Sweden and Belarus.

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Dorian_Hawkmoon
Dorian_Hawkmoon
5 years ago
Reply to  FerdIII

This is one of the most glaring idiocies isn’t it? No flu because muzzles and banging people up have been so effective. Covid because we haven’t worn muzzles and been banged up enough.

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Ken Garoo
Ken Garoo
5 years ago
Reply to  Dorian_Hawkmoon

A true ‘the science’tist must be able to support at least two mutually exclusive ‘explanations’ at the same time.

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MikeMayUK
MikeMayUK
5 years ago
Reply to  Hugh_Manity

The work put into eradicating smallpox from the world was Herculean and worthwhile. Pity they didn’t know that an easier option was simply to attribute all smallpox infections to something else.

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sam s.j.
sam s.j.
5 years ago
Reply to  Hugh_Manity

i think i t ‘s becuase it is the flu. i mean that this’ killer virus’ is the flu

Last edited 5 years ago by sam s.j.
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Waldorf
Waldorf
5 years ago
Reply to  sam s.j.

I miss the flu. Come back, all is forgiven.

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RichardJames
RichardJames
5 years ago
Reply to  Waldorf

Beautifully put, my Lord!

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Annie
Annie
5 years ago

Reported ATL:

There are also now 27.7million adults who are considered vulnerable because of poor health, low financial resilience or events such as redundancy.

This is from a newspaper article, and we all know that any figure relating to Covvie is suspect. But 27.7 million adults?Approaching half the adults in the UK?

Stay safe,indeed.

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JaneHarry
JaneHarry
5 years ago
Reply to  Annie

but if it saved one life…… what a shallow materialist you are, putting the economy before human life!

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Annie
Annie
5 years ago
Reply to  JaneHarry

Oooooh, sorry! I am indeed a very villain!

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Derek Toyne
Derek Toyne
5 years ago
Reply to  JaneHarry

The year is 2030 and the history teacher is talking about the covid pandemic of 2020/21. Can anyone tell me how many people died of covid in the UK 140,000 sir says one of the kids.The teacher asks prior to 2020 was there any other pandemic that was as bad as covid. In 1968/69 Hong Kong flu killed 80,000 says another kid. A kid at the back of the class pips up and says sir wasn’t the UK population smaller and younger then. Quite right says the teacher who goes on to point out both pandemics were as deadly as each other. The teacher then goes on to ask the class how was covid brought under control. At that the class all shout lockdown. The teacher then points out that at the time everyone believed this and as a consequence the pandemic lasted longer. The teacher then goes onto explain to the class using various graphs that vaccines and people acquiring immunity due to recovery led to the virus coming under control. The teacher then asks the class does anyone have any questions to which the kid at the back, sir didn’t the pandemic lead to inflation and mass unemployment.… Read more »

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ElizaP
ElizaP
5 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Yep – remember that phrase about “maintaining a sense of proportion”? Well we remember it – but the Government clearly doesn’t.

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Old Maid
Old Maid
5 years ago
Reply to  Annie

And these people are all ahead of me in the Vaccination Stakes. Result!

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bluemoon
bluemoon
5 years ago

Good morning. Posters have been advocating lynching and shooting for the perpetrators of this covid/lockdown bollox. I’m proposing incarceration. Those on The List should be dragged off to prison, no doubt they’ll be piteously squealing “But I’ve committed no crime”. The grim response is “Neither have the British people”. Their cells will be small but with an en suite, I’m not cruel. There is no natural light. Attached to the wall is a screen showing an endless loop of government and NHS TV advertisements. A loudspeaker will broadcast ‘celebrities’ who have been twittering about how much they’re enjoying lockdown – and this is their punishment because they’ll stumble over the long words and not understand them – reading out all the regulations enacted since the beginning of this insanity. A key pad will be provided on which the prisoners can order food, a short menu of fast food: burgers, chips, pizzas, ice cream. The cell is air conditioned with oxygen depleted air. An hour of exercise per day is mandated, on a tread mill in a small enclosed space with no sunshine. There is a small bench to sit on but it’s covered in yellow and black striped tape. A… Read more »

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Annie
Annie
5 years ago
Reply to  bluemoon

Sounds ideal.
Of course they wear two or more face nappies 24/7/365.
And the family isn’t really there, it’s a Zoom screen.
And it’s for life, with no parole or release ever,ever, ever.

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Annie
Annie
5 years ago
Reply to  Annie

PS. Except that from time to time, they’re told that by autumn/Christmas/next year, if they are very very good, some restrictions might be eased. But a day or two before the suggested date, they’re told that we have decided, with a heavy heart, that no easing is possible.

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bluemoon
bluemoon
5 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Ooo nice! But I’ve just thought of another way to deliver the ‘Hancock Promise’.
Every 2/3/4/5 weeks four screens are brought into the cell in front of which the prisoner sits. The screens show four solemn faces. The prisoner is encouraged to ask questions, perhaps for improvements in their regime: better conditions, a different diet, longer exercise periods. All the faces on the screen regretfully shake their heads and intone “It’s for your own good”. The screens are removed.

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ElizaP
ElizaP
5 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Oh yes – mustn’t forget the carrot and the stick stuff – fake promises rule ok.

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RichardJames
RichardJames
5 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Yes; by far the most evil words that have come out of the politicians’ mouths, the bastards. “With a heavy heart” the cunts.

Sorry for my bad language, but my own MP (the bitch) used exactly the same phrase.

If, when this is all over, there is a much-to-be-hoped-for Nuremburg Trial for Crimes against Humanity, please may I volunteer to be the person administering the death penalty? It’s a terrible job, so I wouldn’t want anyone else of a more nervous disposition to have to do it. I will, with a heavy heart, execute the lot of them and see them sadlidie.

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Annie
Annie
5 years ago
Reply to  RichardJames

Deservedlidie. Who’ll be sad?

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RichardJames
RichardJames
5 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Hee, hee.

Annie, you have made another variant! (Which I like much better than the viral version.)

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straightalkingyorkshireman
straightalkingyorkshireman
5 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Keep telling them its only for 3 more weeks.

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ElizaP
ElizaP
5 years ago
Reply to  straightalkingyorkshireman

Is there anyone left by now – even amongst the Covidians – that would believe Boris/Hancock et al if they said the sun was going to rise tomorrow?

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Les Tricoteuses
Les Tricoteuses
5 years ago
Reply to  ElizaP

Unfortunately millions of people, I know a few of them.

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Cheezilla
Cheezilla
5 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Same wavelength Annie! I hadn’t read yours before I posted.

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houdini
houdini
5 years ago
Reply to  bluemoon

As a special treat each month they are injected with an unknown substance in order to keep them safe.

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straightalkingyorkshireman
straightalkingyorkshireman
5 years ago
Reply to  houdini

You could tell each of them randomly that one of the others has sadly died of covid so we must lock you down even further removing one of their comforts.

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RichardJames
RichardJames
5 years ago
Reply to  houdini

With extra hand-wringing and a carefully-chosen whining voice; “keeep them saaaaafe…”

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
5 years ago
Reply to  bluemoon

Good one. Plus they have to wear double muzzles all day every day. Visors optional.

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bluemoon
bluemoon
5 years ago
Reply to  Bart Simpson

Well I did say that the air conditioning was oxygen depleted… nah you’re right, double masks it is!

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AidanR
AidanR
5 years ago
Reply to  bluemoon

Sounds expensive. And a bit like a ‘regenerative retreat’ advertised in the back of Country Life.

Fire is the answer. Lots and lots of fire.

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Cheezilla
Cheezilla
5 years ago
Reply to  AidanR

I’m sure they’ll get that after their life sentence.

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RichardJames
RichardJames
5 years ago
Reply to  AidanR

Nuke them from orbit; it’s the only way to be sure.

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Jo
Jo
5 years ago
Reply to  bluemoon

I thought of one for Wanco a few months ago.
Chain him to a chair and then get a syringe and fill it with an unknown substance. Tell him that what is in there might cause him harm, perhaps kill him; it might be immediate or when it reacts with something else in the future. Or he might be fine.
Tell him he can be released if he takes this substance, or at least after the second dose.

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Cheezilla
Cheezilla
5 years ago
Reply to  Jo

Even better, threaten one of his kids!

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Rowan
Rowan
5 years ago
Reply to  Cheezilla

His kids have suffered enough.

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Two-Six
Two-Six
5 years ago
Reply to  bluemoon

How about a “Friday night special” where the criminals are taken to a viewing room, then allowing them to watch a special comilation of cops beating, tazering, strangeling, punching, kicking, and arresting COVID DENIERS, Anti-Lockdown protestors and non-maskers on a loop with surround sound of the screams of pain and rage can be rendered in full 3D.

Ooooh I am bad.

Mind you these psychopaths would probably enjoy that kind of thing.

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Jaguarpig
Jaguarpig
5 years ago
Reply to  bluemoon

Just hang the bastards

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Rowan
Rowan
5 years ago
Reply to  Jaguarpig

Oh yes please.

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Marcus Junius Brutus
Marcus Junius Brutus
5 years ago
Reply to  bluemoon

Dispatch them by the swiftest method available, and without ceremony. They have wasted enough of our time, and deserve to be quickly forgotten.

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Cheezilla
Cheezilla
5 years ago
Reply to  Marcus Junius Brutus

Swift dispatch is far too kind, considering the long-term misery they’ve inflicted on the population!
They could easily be forgotten while they fester in solitary confinement for the rest of their lives.
Bluemoon’s plan is completely appropriate – I’d just add the mandatory wearing of a face nappy (or three) for at least 8 hours per day.

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RichardJames
RichardJames
5 years ago
Reply to  Marcus Junius Brutus

No, no; I must insist, that’s my penance. I must suffer the punishment of seeing them die, because I have sinned by claiming a genuine mask exemption.

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
5 years ago
Reply to  Marcus Junius Brutus

Tower Hill can be repurprosed for executions.

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Silver cat
Silver cat
5 years ago
Reply to  bluemoon

Tell them they will be released in 3 weeks then 1 day before inject them with a poison and say sorry it will now be another 3 weeks. Repeat over and over again increasing the dose of poison each time. Tell them we are doing this to protect the nhs and bbc. Play on repeat adverts only especially the ones involving ant and dec and poems. Make them wear a mask and limit the amount of oxygen to the cell. Schedule a 5pm news broadcast and have questions only on why more poison is not being administered.

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Elisabeth
Elisabeth
5 years ago
Reply to  bluemoon

I’m for just ridding society of the globalist puppet filth. Plop them into the nearest active volcano. Pay per view. Build homeless shelters with the proceeds.

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chaos
chaos
5 years ago

Boris is still PM. Just amazing. Where are the letters?

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Llamasaurus Rex
Llamasaurus Rex
5 years ago
Reply to  chaos

DePiffle’s narc personality flaws meet the globalist move (accelerated NWO, with social credit etc)….result? The worst PM in the country’s history. Heath, Eden, Balfour, North….all atrocious, but better. Only Blair’s damage, seen in perspective, which is a major enabler for this globalist carnage, comes close to the material damage of dePiffle. Blair loaded the gun, dePiffle pulled the trigger.

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LMS2
LMS2
5 years ago
Reply to  Llamasaurus Rex

Obama and Biden are doing the same to America.

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RichardJames
RichardJames
5 years ago
Reply to  Llamasaurus Rex

Yes, don’t worry; there’s a specially comfortable seat waiting for him and his Wide-Mouthed Frog. His name is very high on Ze List.

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Rowan
Rowan
5 years ago
Reply to  Llamasaurus Rex

Blair is an evil clever bastard, Boris is just an evil bastard.

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AidanR
AidanR
5 years ago
Reply to  chaos

There aren’t any, because the Tories are spineless pieces of shit.

Labour are an altogether darker bodily waste product. Say someone was trepanned, and then skullfucked by a pack of wild dogs, then their body left for several weeks to decompose in subsaharan heat. If you decanted the decomposed brain into a cup… that’s Labour.

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RichardJames
RichardJames
5 years ago
Reply to  AidanR

I am beginning to respect you more and more each day, AidanR.

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Mutineer
Mutineer
5 years ago
Reply to  chaos

From YouGov

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Mutineer
Mutineer
5 years ago
Reply to  chaos

And another.

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Ken Garoo
Ken Garoo
5 years ago
Reply to  Mutineer

A ‘likeable’ leader? FFS that gave us the ‘very nice man’ Tory ‘Psycho’ Bliar.

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Mutineer
Mutineer
5 years ago
Reply to  chaos

Yet another. I suspect, knowing the brains of many contributors to YouGov that they want harsher lockdowns!

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Mutineer
Mutineer
5 years ago
Reply to  chaos

And it continues.

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Mutineer
Mutineer
5 years ago
Reply to  chaos

Sigh.

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Cecil B
Cecil B
5 years ago

Clapping the killers. North Korea on steroids

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chaos
chaos
5 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSo9Uvgh1Mo

Boris and Nut Nut’s new Jerusalem.

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Cheezilla
Cheezilla
5 years ago
Reply to  chaos

Scary!

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nickbowes
nickbowes
5 years ago

Time for a “Back to Normal Party” whose first goal is the arrest of all these main players of the hoax, from the Fat Dictator, Mengele hancock and most others of the 650 who are bought and paid for by corrupt global forces , also the “pharma” bucks boys down to the nhs harassing people to take this poison. Only when these scumbags are in the big house will this country be allowed to move on.

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Annie
Annie
5 years ago
Reply to  nickbowes

A coup!

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Teddy Edward
Teddy Edward
5 years ago

Another Night shift on the front line almost over.Peppered with boredom fast food and trite tv.It’s Hell here especially trying to keep awake.Please clap for me.The only time I encountered clapping as a former NHS Nurse of 27 years is when I caught the clap off an Irish domestic at Guys Hospital.

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Rich
Rich
5 years ago
Reply to  Teddy Edward

Teddy, I clap for you – sincerely.

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Annie
Annie
5 years ago
Reply to  Rich

And I. Not least because you keep us informed. Thank you.

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Teddy Edward
Teddy Edward
5 years ago
Reply to  Rich

Thank you. I did stare out of the window masked with a plaintive expression mouthing to passers by under my gag. Looking intensely pleading with tearful eyes are you fuckers doing enough to protect these victims.

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Nigel Sherratt
Nigel Sherratt
5 years ago
Reply to  Teddy Edward

Wot, no TikTok? Slacker!

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JaneHarry
JaneHarry
5 years ago

https://www.bitchute.com/video/HYQIU7Kt4Q7s/ – Dave Cullen’s latest. They’ve tried all this before. The swine flu hoax of 2009 [hot on the heels of that hiccup to the world financial system] – they didn’t manage to pull it off that time, but they learned the lessons of their failure – and the rest of us did not. we let it go, and forgot about it. at our peril.

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LMS2
LMS2
5 years ago
Reply to  JaneHarry

Indeed:

https://healthcare-in-europe.com/en/news/european-parliament-to-investigate-who-pandemic-scandal.html

“European Parliament to Investigate WHO and “Pandemic” Scandal
by F. William Engdahl
The Council of Europe member states will launch an inquiry in January 2010 on the influence of the pharmaceutical companies on the global swine flu campaign, focusing especially on extent of the pharma’s industry’s influence on WHO. The Health Committee of the EU Parliament has unanimously passed a resolution calling for the inquiry.
The step is a long-overdue move to public transparency of a “Golden Triangle” of drug corruption between WHO, the pharma industry and academic scientists that has permanently damaged the lives of millions and even caused death.”

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Scotty87
Scotty87
5 years ago

So the monomaniacal SAGE fanatics are at it again, pressuring our utterly spineless PM into delaying the Great Reopening by “just a couple more months to get the cases down.” But at what cost? It’s clear that politicians and scientists alike are now embarked in a bizarre international competition to completely eradicate Covid-19, with envious eyes cast towards the likes of New Zealand (a country with more sheep than people). Covid-19 deaths are the only deaths in town to these putrid zealots. The fact that British children commiting suicide due to these torturous restrictions is seen as fair game but Auntie Ethel isn’t allowed to die “with” Covid at the age of 97 tells you all you need to know – the establishment is fully subscribed to this rotten, sociopathic cult which was borne out of utter hysteria, panic and the habit of the state to nanny and interfere with every aspect of our lives. Academics will pore over this dreadful period in human history for decades, perhaps centuries into the future. “Act Like You’ve Got It” posters will be the subject of robust analysis and discussion just like the Goebbelsian propaganda of the Nazi regime. The key players of… Read more »

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Cecil B
Cecil B
5 years ago
Reply to  Scotty87

New Zealand. I’m reminded of the story of the British Lions on tour in the 1970’s

Sat at breakfast one morning a front row forward (no names no pack drill) complained

“What no bacon, a country with two million sheep and no bacon”

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Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
5 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

No pigs either, apparently.

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Annie
Annie
5 years ago
Reply to  Fingerache Philip

No, we’ve got them all. In government, in the MSM, in the opposition, in the police, and of course in SAGE.

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Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
5 years ago
Reply to  Annie

And also, Annie, we’ve got more 2 legged sheep than 4 legged ones.

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Annie
Annie
5 years ago
Reply to  Fingerache Philip

True. There are lots of both hereabouts, and I’m always impressed by the calm rationality shining in the eyes of the four-legged ones.

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RichardJames
RichardJames
5 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Lovely set of postings!

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Annie
Annie
5 years ago
Reply to  Scotty87

There’s no doubt that the Great Covid Insanity will spawn a huge academic industry, just as the Holocaust has done.
The one thing the academics will never discuss is their own spineless cowardice while the nightmare was actually in progress.

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Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
5 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Like “some” German people who didn’t know that there was a death camp just down the road.

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Annie
Annie
5 years ago
Reply to  Fingerache Philip

Until they were frog-marched through it. See what you have done.

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Waldorf
Waldorf
5 years ago
Reply to  Fingerache Philip

Dachau actually had road signs outside pointing to the camp, with carved figures of SS guards and villainous-looking prisoners. People outside were certainly aware of it. The worst camps, like Auschwitz etc. were however deliberately located in Poland, but concentration camps were a known feature of German life.

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Hugh
Hugh
5 years ago
Reply to  Fingerache Philip

No, of course not, that smell was just the local abattoir…

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TJN
TJN
5 years ago
Reply to  Scotty87

The victors of a struggle write the history. So we first have to ensure we win.

I fully share your sentiments. I’m sure Hancock, Fergusson Whitty and many others are blissfully ignorant of this possibility. Vallance, I think, suspects it; but Johnson – for all his faults – knows it.

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FedupofLies
FedupofLies
5 years ago
Reply to  TJN

Worldwide Day of Protest — #IDoNotComply

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AidanR
AidanR
5 years ago
Reply to  FedupofLies

Needs a theme tune.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5yYtzsJAyg

Turn it TF Up!

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FedupofLies
FedupofLies
5 years ago
Reply to  Scotty87

We need to mass revolt!

Worldwide Day of Protest — #IDoNotComply

These SICK criminals against humanity will get away with it unless we do so.

ALL leadership in politics, NHS, newspaper propaganda and police MUST be put on trial and if found guilty, put away for a LONG TIME.

I will not put up with any liberal softies on here who say otherwise.

If the death penalty is somehow applicable then it should also be sought.

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AidanR
AidanR
5 years ago
Reply to  FedupofLies

Hell yes…

Needs a theme tune.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5yYtzsJAyg

Turn it the fuck Up!

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JayBee
JayBee
5 years ago
Reply to  FedupofLies

There is an article by Vera Lengsfeld in Germany which reviews the German politicians latest moving of the goalposts and comes to the very same, obvious conclusion:
We can only end the lockdowns ourselves. The politicians, scientists and presstitutes will never, ever do it for us.

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Janette
Janette
5 years ago
Reply to  FedupofLies

Hear hear

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
5 years ago
Reply to  Scotty87

Hear, hear!! This government has perpetuated large scale Munchausen Syndrome by Proxy which has not only decimated this country’s economy and society but also its citizens’ mental health & well being.

This year in the tercentenary of the office of the Prime Minister. When they come to write another book for the quadcentenary in 2121, Boris Johnson will go down as the worst ever and historians will wonder why a man with so much promise & elected with an 80 seat majority has squandered all that.

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richardw53
richardw53
5 years ago
Reply to  Scotty87

Don’t rely on the academics. They are just as likely to recount this period as one of collective achievement in defeating the virus, and will thereafter recommend the same mechanism of fear to maintain the collective compliance. We are now living in a post modern, post rational age which has defeated reason and evidence as the foundation of political judgement.

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Hugh
Hugh
5 years ago
Reply to  Scotty87

New Zealand? When will they fully reopen to international travel, I wonder? Will I ever be able to visit my relatives there (if I refuse the Big Pharma hard sell)?

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Cecil B
Cecil B
5 years ago

Mikey Mike has announced that the BLM protests were a disgrace and that she would never take the knee. Funny, I don’t remember her saying anything about this at the time. If a white person said what she has just said they would get cancelled

Or is it that MM wants to deflect attention away from the MFU that is the airport hotel/prison debacle

I’m no expert on government but it might be an idea to ask the civil servants if a scheme is possible before announcing it and not the other way round

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FedupofLies
FedupofLies
5 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

Please stop using words like ‘debacle’ and ‘madness’.

Calculated totalitarianism inflicted on a nation by Behavioursal Pscyhologist pseudoscientists is NOT a debacle.

The airports are also part of a preparation for the internment of dissidents.

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iane
iane
5 years ago

I was thinking about the covid death statistics last night and a couple of significant thoughts occurred.

Firstly, as we all know, the average age of death in the UK is 81 whilst the average age of death WITH covid is 82. Now, surely noone could suggest that covid makes you live longer, so the only conclusion is that the extra year of life, on average, must be due to the extreme efforts that the NHS is putting into care of those with covid, combined with the fact that covid is rife in care homes where many of the already elderly are based.

Secondly, this has consequences for those who claim that covid is on average depriving sufferers of 10 years of life. BUT that would mean that people dying with covid would have gone on to live for an average of 92.4 years. I mean, seriously, do they realise that that is what they are claiming???!!!

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Cecil B
Cecil B
5 years ago
Reply to  iane

Ssssshhh!! There is money to be made

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landt2020
landt2020
5 years ago
Reply to  iane

If you make it to 81, you are in pretty good shape and may well live to 92. 81 is the mean of all people across the UK. Basically if you take all the people who die before 81 out of the equation, the life expectancy of the remaining people could well be up in the 90s.

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FerdIII
FerdIII
5 years ago
Reply to  landt2020

Not really. Child mortality is low and yes of course people die at all ages. But the average life expectancy is 80. That is just a fact. The post is commenting that the death from CV is about that age. Most people in their 80s suffer from at least 1 condition. A flu or any respiratory attack can indeed finish them off. This includes the normal flu.

If you or the Covid cult is saying ‘look it, the guy died at 82 with CV 19 he could have lived 10 yrs more..’, you would apply the same logic to flu and any other respiratory disease. About 70 K people die every year in the UK from flu+resp problems. Statistical fact. I have never heard anyone say ‘well that 82 yr old could have lived 10 more yrs, too bad about the flu….’. Nothing. Until CV 19.

Never heard a peep from the Covid bedwetter cult in Jan 2018 when 15.000 people died in one week from the flu. Nothing. Imagine if 15K were to die next week from CV 19. They would weld your front door shut.

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Freecumbria
Freecumbria
5 years ago
Reply to  landt2020

Yes, good point that needed to be made. You are completely correct, as long as you restrict your point to a person of average age say 81, and not an average person of age 81 whose death is labelled as covid. It is a useful point to say that the average age of death of someone whose death is labelled as covid is around a person’s normal life expectancy at birth, as that puts things into context. But we shouldn’t draw incorrect conclusions from that or use false logic in respect to that to conclude that the years of life lost are therefore around zero or minus one when we are simply mixing up life expectancies at an older age with the life expectancy at birth. We should instead use correct logic to conclude that the years of life lost for a covid labelled death are probably between 0 and 1 year. When you take into account the skewed distribution of the average age of a covid labelled death, then if those dying were of average health for those of that age, and but for covid they would have lived on average for that future life expectancy, you do reach… Read more »

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Freecumbria
Freecumbria
5 years ago
Reply to  landt2020

And here are the life expectancies for an average person of that age based on 2017-2019 experience (so not allowing for future improvements in mortality, which is probably reasonable given the damage caused by the Government covid response)

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/lifeexpectancies/datasets/nationallifetablesunitedkingdomreferencetables

It’s the e(x) column that is relevant.

Males
Life expectancy at birth: 79 years
Life expectancy at age 80: 8.5 years

Females
Life expectancy at birth: 83 years
Life expectancy at age 80: 9.8 years

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AidanR
AidanR
5 years ago
Reply to  landt2020

If you make it to 81, you’ve been in the damned way quite long enough. It’s time to GTFO.

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Nigel Sherratt
Nigel Sherratt
5 years ago
Reply to  AidanR

Psalms 90:10  The days of our years are threescore years and ten; and if by reason of strength they be fourscore years, yet is their strength labour and sorrow; for it is soon cut off, and we fly away.

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iane
iane
5 years ago
Reply to  AidanR

In the way of what? Do you think anyone over 81 is causing societal problems? I suppose they tie up the NHS, but on average they have paid their way and are owed such treatment. But maybe you are just pulling our legs?!

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AidanR
AidanR
5 years ago
Reply to  iane

Ya think? 🙂

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Woden
Woden
5 years ago
Reply to  AidanR

Ah, but will you agree to your statement if you make it that far?

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AidanR
AidanR
5 years ago
Reply to  Woden

My mother’s going in a wood-chipper in 3 months time… I’ll let you know after that 🙂

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iane
iane
5 years ago
Reply to  landt2020

But one is considering a whole distribution of ages affected by covid and not just the 81 year-olds. For your comment to apply, it would be necessary that covid specifically kills those who are super-healthy and who would otherwise, on average, have lived for an extra 10 years: I am dubious!

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ituex
ituex
5 years ago
Reply to  iane

I have a suspicion that the deaths occur in the ‘lucky to have lived that long ‘ group rather than those who are actively playing tennis or golf in their 80s. There are always exceptions before anyone says so, but in the main I think this seems likely to be the case. After all the mortality for an 80 year old unwell with a positive Covid test is around 15-20% not 100%.

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Cecil B
Cecil B
5 years ago

The police announce we are overwhelmed

Doooooh!!! did they only just realise there are 66 million of us and 100,000 of them

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ElizaP
ElizaP
5 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

and the vast majority of them seem to spend their time beating up innocent taxpayers making some attempt to lead a normal life – rather than deal with criminals. Oh …perish the thought of dealing with actual criminals – as us normal people are a lot easier to belt round the head.

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
5 years ago
Reply to  ElizaP

They’re thick, lazy and can’t be bothered that’s why. Dealing with thieves, rapists & fraudsters is soooo much hard work.

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alw
alw
5 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

Perhaps that would explain why in my part of London siting a policeman other than driving past in a car off to somewhere in a hurry we haven’t seen a policeman for many months.

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Spikedee1
Spikedee1
5 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

By what? Walking around the sea front and arresting people walking with their kids. Is it because you can’t use your car to tell people to put on a mask and you’re having to walk? Might do you some good you fat useless bastard!

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Nigel Sherratt
Nigel Sherratt
5 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

Time to amalgamate the NHS/Police to help the poor dears even the odds.

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Elisabeth
Elisabeth
5 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

660 people per police person? They’re definitely outnumbered

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Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
5 years ago

Wankcock: “We could live with Covid like we do with the flu”.
FOR CHRIST’S SAKE!!!

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Annie
Annie
5 years ago
Reply to  Fingerache Philip

Well, Wankok, you stupid, sordid little zombie, that’s exactly what we would have done if you and your disgusting squad of co-Fascists hadn’t decided to wreck the country and enslave the population. You must be so proud,
.

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FerdIII
FerdIII
5 years ago
Reply to  Annie

LDs have only delayed the natural life cycle of the virus. LDs have stopped general immunity. LDs have damaged our own immune systems and psychology and yes the 2 are related. LDs have shuttered gyms and places of exercise which along with vitamins, sunshine and a good life style are your best vaccation. LDs have killed 50K people.

No science to any of their actions. Just pathetic totalitarianism based on fiction.

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FedupofLies
FedupofLies
5 years ago
Reply to  FerdIII

It was ALL about the vaccine roll-out.

This experimental gene therapy.

We must STOP THEM before it becomes endemic to society and they begin to give it to children.

Worldwide Day of Protest — #IDoNotComply

In terms of scale, this is the WORST crime against humanity in history.

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Spikedee1
Spikedee1
5 years ago
Reply to  Fingerache Philip

Whats that line from the outlaw Josey Wales. “Don’t piss up my back and tell me its raining!”

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Waldorf
Waldorf
5 years ago
Reply to  Fingerache Philip

A glimmer of sense, for once?

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Cheezilla
Cheezilla
5 years ago
Reply to  Waldorf

The point of his statement is the end of the year. What’s he really telling us?!

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Woden
Woden
5 years ago
Reply to  Fingerache Philip

Who’d have thought ??

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danny
danny
5 years ago

Restaurants and cafes will be able to serve people outside from April?
Ah yes. When I choose to g out for a coffee I always like to bypass the sofas, tables and chairs, ambience and air conditioning of the establishment, buy my overpriced drink and then sit in the burning sun/pouring rain/gale-force winds, just outside said cafe, next to the busy road. Lovely.

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Tom Blackburn
Tom Blackburn
5 years ago
Reply to  danny

There’s something about a full English served to takeaway. The polystyrene, the cheap sauce, all ‘served’ together so the beans smell of egg and the sausage is covered in plum tomato juice. Yes, there’s something that is very sad about a takeaway full English.

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ElizaP
ElizaP
5 years ago
Reply to  danny

Precisely! You can tell the people making that sort of rule live in the warmer drier climes of Southern England. Do you think we could make them all take compulsory month long holidays in the windiest wettest part of West Wales I can think of? Followed by another month long holiday up the furthest north (and windy) part of Scotland I can think of? During both holidays they are to spend a couple of hours per day each day attempting to have a long leisurely meal outside a cafe (and…no…they’re not allowed to gear up in loads of layers of clothing – they must wear just pretty standard clothing of one layer of average thickness clothing and a cheap raincoat or jacket on top of it). They will be inspected prior to this to ensure they’ve not snuck in any thermal underwear underneath said clothing either.

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Waldorf
Waldorf
5 years ago
Reply to  danny

Some countries, like Greece, have appropriate climates for cafe society, even in April. England is not one of these countries.

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this is my username
this is my username
5 years ago

This idea of the UK economy being like a “coiled spring” is just another lie being served up to you by the same people who said “three weeks to flatten the curve”. Few have any idea of the real devastation this government is causing – the truth will out when furlough ends (or doesn’t and becomes UBI).

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Tom Blackburn
Tom Blackburn
5 years ago
Reply to  this is my username

It is just a sound bite. Completely meaningless. The economy WILL improve the second this ends, we know that. It doesn’t take the Bank of fucking England to exclaim it using a simile.

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Bungle
Bungle
5 years ago
Reply to  this is my username

That economist saying how wonderful vaccines are – SARS 1 tests stopped when the animals died on contact with wild virus. For SARS 2 we have no animal studies and are in the middle of trials. Anyone recommending them should be locked up and I have just written to my medical practice telling them they are only marginally behind Mengele.

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FedupofLies
FedupofLies
5 years ago
Reply to  Bungle

Excuse me, they are AHEAD of them.

The sick bastard Mengele never had the scope of operation these NHS criminals are seeking.

Mass testing on CHILDREN is due to begin.

FIGHT IT!

Worldwide Day of Protest — #IDoNotComply

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Spikedee1
Spikedee1
5 years ago
Reply to  this is my username

The coiled spring presumes the economy as it was in March 2020. Have they not noticed the 2 million extra unemployed and 30% of businesses that have gone broke and we have no travel industry and no entertainment sector. Because of online shopping people have not stopped spending and there will he no boom. Yes people will want to go out but if you have to wear a fucking mask would you bother.
These people know as much about business as sage does about effective management of the economy during an endemic virus.

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rupert
rupert
5 years ago
Reply to  this is my username

This is to quell any potential narrative as to the true economic damage being inflicted on the country. ‘If the government say it so, then it must be true…’

Meaningless.

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Nessimmersion
Nessimmersion
5 years ago
Reply to  rupert

If the LD carries on much longer, it’ll be more like a coiled sock.

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Cheezilla
Cheezilla
5 years ago
Reply to  Nessimmersion

A coiled wet sock.

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ituex
ituex
5 years ago
Reply to  this is my username

Yes because UBI will be much more basic than the top level of furlough payment.

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Cecil B
Cecil B
5 years ago

BBC Breaking News Government announces changes to its daily press briefings The government has announced that it intends to move away from its daily 5pm press conferences A spokesperson said “We are aware that the daily briefings cause considerable disruption to peoples daily schedules. We know for example that people have favourite television programs and it is often a difficult choice to switch channels In addition the current process places heavy burdens on Ministers and Officials. These briefings often tie up three individuals at a time and the whole day can be spent on preparation In the circumstances we do not consider that the current arrangements are the best use of tax payer funded resources” The government also announced that it intended to make use of the latest and best technology available to get it’s message across As from next week the government will hold one press conference a week The press conference will commence at 9am every Monday and be completed by 5pm the same day Known as ‘Super Conferences’ they will be hosted by a virtual reality Minister named AIDAN (Artificial Intelligence Dunce and Nonce) The morning session will comprise of government announcements of ‘this opens’, ‘that closes’,’… Read more »

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Annie
Annie
5 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

Cecil, you can be horribly convincing in your first paragraphs! Naughty!

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penelope pitstop
penelope pitstop
5 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

you got me there Cecil until the 7th para!! 🙂 Actually i don’t know when the Weimar hold these as i can’t watch them for my own health and the safety of the TV/radio. I read on here the outcome of the latest patronising drivel passed to the sheep.

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AidanR
AidanR
5 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

I’m feeling tangentially traduced somehow 😀

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Cat Woman
Cat Woman
5 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

Cecil, you completely got me there. I was reading this out to my husband and cheering. We have been complaining about the BBC because they keep taking off the Bidding Room for the pointless briefings. We lost about half of the last series and of course, BBC don’t repeat them or put them on iPlayer. Gggggrrrrr 😁

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CGL
CGL
5 years ago
Reply to  Cat Woman

He got me yesterday – he won’t get me again though 🙂

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Tom Blackburn
Tom Blackburn
5 years ago

Daily Mail: Scientists urge Boris to keep brakes on for two more months.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9255421/Scientists-urge-Boris-brakes-two-months.html

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FerdIII
FerdIII
5 years ago
Reply to  Tom Blackburn

‘Scientists’. Now running a country. Now relevant. Now powerful. Now getting rich. Now ensuring contracts go to friends and family.

In related news the scientists with the Soviet Cominterm urge Gorbachev not to proceed too hastily with Glasnost.

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Tom Blackburn
Tom Blackburn
5 years ago

Al Jazeera English: All hypotheses remain open on COVID origins: WHO chief.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/2/12/all-hypotheses-on-the-table-on-covid-origins-who-chief

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FerdIII
FerdIII
5 years ago

ATL, JHB, tweet poll of 85 K is heartening. 60% want an end to LDs now and/or when the over 70s are vaxx’d with whatever you believe that vaxx to be…..maybe we are not alone in this. Certainly more believable than Gov’t-BBC-YouGov nonsense.

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Mutineer
Mutineer
5 years ago
Reply to  FerdIII

Many of us ‘oldies’ will NOT accept a death elixir, thank you! They will never get 100% of over 70’s culled.

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Cotton Wool
Cotton Wool
5 years ago
Reply to  FerdIII

That’s right vax the oldies, doesn’t matter if it kills them, they were going to die anyway! Ageist wanker

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Monro
Monro
5 years ago

Now that the means exist to treat extreme cases of covid 19 (and any other common cold virus) amongst the elderly and infirm cheaply and effectively: ‘We’ve never had a good treatment for the common cold, it does make people sick, especially older people, and perhaps this could be it,” Professor Nicolau said. “These pandemics are now coming every five years or so, and this treatment should work for the next one, because hyper-inflammation is not particular to COVID, it happens with all respiratory infections.” https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/queensland/over-the-counter-inhalers-suppress-severe-covid-symptoms-trial-finds-20210210-p5716m.html There can be no reason not to implement the recommendations of the the Great Barrington Declaration forthwith: ‘Those who are not vulnerable should immediately be allowed to resume life as normal. Simple hygiene measures, such as hand washing and staying home when sick should be practiced by everyone to reduce the herd immunity threshold. Schools and universities should be open for in-person teaching. Extracurricular activities, such as sports, should be resumed. Young low-risk adults should work normally, rather than from home. Restaurants and other businesses should open. Arts, music, sport and other cultural activities should resume. People who are more at risk may participate if they wish, while society as a whole enjoys the… Read more »

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Steve-Devon
Steve-Devon
5 years ago
Reply to  Monro

Yes indeed, I think the failure to invest in and develop effective treatments for severe covid has been one of the big scandals of this hoo-haa. All along the arrogance and conceit of the politicians and health tyrants has been breathtaking as they assume they are in total control of this virus and can wipe it out with their nasty vaccines.
If we had better effective treatments then the level of concern and angst over this nonsense would have scaled down long ago.

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DeepBlueYonder
DeepBlueYonder
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

Yes. Fear eats the soul.

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Monro
Monro
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

‘Not though the soldier knew
   Someone had blundered.
   Theirs not to make reply,
   Theirs not to reason why,
   Theirs but to do and die.’

And the blunder has been, massive, at the strategic level, so NHS senior management/SAGE/government directly responsible. Simple solutions at ward level using multivitamins, zinc, doxycycline and ivermectin and, now, cheap anti asthma inhalants, would have saved so much mortality amongst the elderly and infirm, immunocompromised. But, as ever, big spending solutions are preferred by ministerial bureaucracies, more money, more importance for their silo/ministry…..gongs, baubles, treble peerages all round then home for tea… and so on.

The government are clearly aware of this which is why Britain has had the massive PR noise: obfuscation.

But they will all have to face the music in the end………

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Cheezilla
Cheezilla
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

It was soon realised that we had effective treatments but they were suppressed because they didn’t fit the agenda.

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alw
alw
5 years ago

I have had this feeling that the vaccination rollout is not as successful as the government would have us believe.

“Ministers urge most vulnerable to get jab”
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/coronavirus-news-covid-vaccine-lockdown-end-uk-cases-quarantine/

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FerdIII
FerdIII
5 years ago
Reply to  alw

Many health care workers refuse to take the poison. 300 dead in the UK from it, 100 K injured- though the Fake News says it has nothing to do with the vaxx. (they prob died from Covid of course…..)

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JME
JME
5 years ago
Reply to  FerdIII

I’ve heard it’s around 30% of health workers round here- me & my wife included.

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l835
l835
5 years ago
Reply to  JME

Another example of the NHS’ divas I say, no as I do policies cf fat nurses handing out obesity advice.

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Monro
Monro
5 years ago
Reply to  l835

NHS divas……

Brilliant!

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Nigel Sherratt
Nigel Sherratt
5 years ago
Reply to  l835

Gave up going for ‘health checks’ when the statin pusher told me I was a fat drunk (tell me something I don’t know!). My small victory was my statin defying blood test result.

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ituex
ituex
5 years ago
Reply to  l835

This is one of my bugbears. Both my husband and I have complained to our GP practice about this. I was asked to move practices for being unreasonable. Seriously the health advice nurse is so fat she sweats and is breathless sitting down.

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Cheezilla
Cheezilla
5 years ago
Reply to  ituex

Yuk!

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Monro
Monro
5 years ago
Reply to  FerdIII

And many health workers will be aware of just how little danger they are in from an endemic common cold coronavirus, some of which we have been living with for over a century. They will also know that the hyper inflammation that is the main cause of mortality from any common cold viruses is now eminently treatable (has been for some time, but needed a proper trial…) with cheap anti asthma inhalants: ‘“When we first began the trial back in March [2020], we were hoping for 50 per cent reduction [in risk of developing serious symptoms], which itself would have been very high,” he said. “We got 90 per cent, which even with only a few hundred people is off the charts. “And it’s not just the overall result – their temperatures are less, they get less fever, and they recover faster.” Professor Nicolau said they realised in the early stages of the pandemic that people with asthma were under-represented in severe and fatal cases of COVID-19. They hypothesised that the use of steroid inhalers, which suppress immune response in the lungs, could have a beneficial effect on COVID-19 patients who often suffered lung damage due to overactive immune response… Read more »

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ituex
ituex
5 years ago
Reply to  Monro

There has recently been an admission that Budesonide a steroid inhaler is protective and if used early can keep 90% out of hospital.

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Basileus
Basileus
5 years ago
Reply to  FerdIII

Every day I read a Twitter post from someone whose relative has suffered after having the vaccine. Here is today’s:

https://twitter.com/ALEXNEWMAN_JOU/status/1360327872209170432

Despite my pleading, dad took the covid “vaccine” a couple days ago. This morning he passed out for the first time in his life and was taken by ambulance to the ER with wild heart issues. If something happens to him, I will not rest until all involved are held accountable.

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Rhema
Rhema
5 years ago
Reply to  FerdIII

Could you direct me to a UK source/website for stats on deaths & injuries following the C-19 vaccine? I’ve been looking but it’s unsurprisingly not easy to find in the UK. It seems easier to see stats in the US on VAIERS website but I’m sure injuries are under-reported on this.

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Dodderydude
Dodderydude
5 years ago
Reply to  Rhema

Rhema

This is the official website logging ‘yellow card’ reports (i.e. adverse reactions following vaccination but not necessarily connected to the vaccination). Needless to say, it doesn’t get any coverage in the mainstream media.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-vaccine-adverse-reactions/coronavirus-vaccine-summary-of-yellow-card-reporting

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FedupofLies
FedupofLies
5 years ago
Reply to  alw

GOOD! Now we must REVOLT!

Worldwide Day of Protest — #IDoNotComply

Once more people realise there are millions who are against these FILTHY SWINE, more will step forward.

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Liberty
Liberty
5 years ago

Is this true for any of you, or anyone you know?

Broken Britain

Feeling stress,
Life’s a mess,
Kids on screens,
Want to scream.

Endless days,
No more play,
Need to hide,
Nerves fried.

Lonely, broken,
Harsh words spoken,
Feeling numb,
Need to run.

Open doors,
We implore,
It’s no joke,
Families broke.

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Nigel Sherratt
Nigel Sherratt
5 years ago
Reply to  Liberty

Bob covers it well as usual, prescient and omniscient!

Broken hands on broken ploughs
Broken treaties, broken vows
Broken pipes, broken tools
People bending broken rules
Hound dog howling, bullfrog croaking
Everything is broken

Copyright
© 1989 by Special Rider Music

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Basileus
Basileus
5 years ago

Get a load of this:

Exclusive: We hope to live with Covid like flu by end of the year, says Matt Hancock
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2021/02/12/matt-hancock-hope-live-covid-like-flu-end-year/

Matt Hancock has said he hopes vaccines and treatments will have turned Covid into a disease we can “live with, like we do flu” by the end of the year. 
In an interview with The Telegraph – which you can read in full below – the Health Secretary said new drugs designed to tackle the virus should arrive in 2021, making it a “treatable disease”.

Click reload then ‘esc’ to get full article.

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Dan L
Dan L
5 years ago
Reply to  Basileus

Vaccine buses! I’d wait for the next one if that turned up at the bus stop.

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Prof Feargoeson
Prof Feargoeson
5 years ago
Reply to  Dan L

https://youtu.be/8UCJz617E8s?t=85

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Ewan Duffy
Ewan Duffy
5 years ago
Reply to  Basileus

Now that he has planted the seed of “treatments” into peoples’ minds, watch for subsequent statements where “vaccines” are not mentioned, only “treatments”.

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Cheezilla
Cheezilla
5 years ago
Reply to  Ewan Duffy

The seed he was actually planting was the end of the year.

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LMS2
LMS2
5 years ago
Reply to  Basileus

There are already drugs available that make it a treatable disease.
They decided not to use them, and to silence anyone who tried.

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ituex
ituex
5 years ago
Reply to  LMS2

Absolutely. The problem was that the advice was to stay at home and only get help if you deteriorated significantly. By then it was too late for all the basic cheap treatments such as Ivermectin and steroid inhalers. They need to be taken early.

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MikeMayUK
MikeMayUK
5 years ago

Regarding vaccine passports and the like, it occurs to me that we will need a method of easily identifying those refuseniks who refuse to be vaccinated, preferably in a way that persuades them of the error of their views.

I sugest some form of emblem to be worn on the clothing of these people whenever they venture outside, something that reminds us all of the benevolent forces that acting to our benefit to save us from this terrible, terrible disease, namely the Prime Minister, the Health Secretary, SAGE, the NHS, the pharmaceutical industry, and the great British public.

Say, a six-pointed star. Coloured yellow, the colour of quarantine.

Additional help in identifying refuseniks who try to get away with not identifying themselves in this way could be obtained by recruiting our fantastic youngsters (they seem to have a lot free time at the moment) as a sort of flushing-out corps – they could be called the Hancock Juniors, or HJ for short.

With these measures in place, we might finally be moving forward a solution to this problem that we did nazi coming.

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FerdIII
FerdIII
5 years ago
Reply to  MikeMayUK

Wancock Youth perhaps?
You could make the refuseniks sing the Horst Vessel song as well, as they clean up public spaces and build public projects.

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Nigel Sherratt
Nigel Sherratt
5 years ago
Reply to  FerdIII

‘HJ’ was a joke for the German speakers (or those with a working knowledge at least). ‘Tomorrow Belongs to Me’ (written for the film but very authentic feel).

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Edward
Edward
5 years ago
Reply to  Nigel Sherratt

Hitler Jugend – I didn’t study German but I know that one!

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Liberty
Liberty
5 years ago
Reply to  MikeMayUK

Maybe we will have to wear masks but the vaccinated will be liberated? Masks would suddenly become a sign of dissent.

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Nigel Sherratt
Nigel Sherratt
5 years ago
Reply to  MikeMayUK

We could be made to hang one of these round our necks (wreck of SS Richard Montgomery in background).

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primesinister
primesinister
5 years ago

sums it up https://youtu.be/h8bJmealgtA

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Nigel Sherratt
Nigel Sherratt
5 years ago
Reply to  primesinister

Excellent, thanks.

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Boris Bullshit
Boris Bullshit
5 years ago

Just seen the new government propaganda advert with successions of moronic celebrities blithely repeating the same tired mantras about staying at home and saving the NHS.

Whatever happened to people using their brains to assess their own risks and make their own decisions. God I hate what this sewer of a country has become.

In Telford where I live every bus is driving around with an electronic sign that reads ‘Captain Sir Tom Moore Thank You’. You see that as often as the bus’s destination!

Add that to the huge ‘Thank You NHS’ banners attached to road signs and we are becoming more like the old Soviet Union everyday. Are we soon going to have murals everywhere with pictures of the ugly cretins Johnson, Gove and Ferguson et al to worship on the rare occasions we are allowed out of our houses?

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Steve-Devon
Steve-Devon
5 years ago
Reply to  Boris Bullshit

I think there should be an award for the most infantile, banal and nauseating slogan of this hoo-haa.
Devon County Council have just sent round a note with the attached image and this jolly warning;
And finally… spread love, not coronavirus this Valentine’s DayLove might be in the air this weekend, but remember, so is coronavirus! So if roses are red and violets are blue, remember don’t get too close, and keep that mask on too! Don’t be stupid because of cupid!

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Boris Bullshit
Boris Bullshit
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

Pass the sick bag on that one Steve!

I presume they were not impressed with the couple caught ‘fornicating’ in the car at 2am at -3 degrees C! Sounds more like the spirit of Valentines Day than that ghastly Devon County Council homily.

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SweetBabyCheeses
SweetBabyCheeses
5 years ago
Reply to  Boris Bullshit

I still don’t understand why the outside temperature is relevant to that story. Presumably they kept the engine running so it was nice and toasty warm inside the car anyway?

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Boris Bullshit
Boris Bullshit
5 years ago
Reply to  SweetBabyCheeses

One hopes so yes! I think there may have been ‘performance problems’ otherwise lol.

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SweetBabyCheeses
SweetBabyCheeses
5 years ago
Reply to  Boris Bullshit

Haha I believe they were both women so probably not. Cue the salacious comments from the police about “sending them both back home to their respective families” – implying they were doing something wrong.

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straightalkingyorkshireman
straightalkingyorkshireman
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

I think I need a second bucket.

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

I should slit my wrists after reading that tripe.

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Basileus
Basileus
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

Words cannot describe …

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Two-Six
Two-Six
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

POISON. What is wrong with these people?

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ituex
ituex
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

It makes me want to take up skydiving.

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Fiona Walker
Fiona Walker
5 years ago
Reply to  Boris Bullshit

Reminded of the excellent Chris Morris satire where he got loads of slebs to condemn a fake drug.

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AidanR
AidanR
5 years ago
Reply to  Fiona Walker

Cake! Everyone likes cake!

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
5 years ago
Reply to  Boris Bullshit

Those celebs should be rounded up and made to “stay at home” in a tower block or council estate somewhere in Tottenham or Edmonton or Govan where there are no green spaces, no chi-chi high street and rampant with crime and anti-social behaviour.

I guarantee you, they will do a U turn faster than you can say “Thank You NHS”

As for those asinine “Thank you NHS” banners and posters, I’m itching to tear then down or vandalise them.

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Nigel Sherratt
Nigel Sherratt
5 years ago
Reply to  Bart Simpson

They’ve been replaced by signs saying ‘Thanks for the clap but now what about our pay rise?’ locally. Coming down from the Sir Tom biscuit fund sugar rush probably. Perhaps they ate the whole fund before anyone thought to set up a local chillax pod.

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JaneHarry
JaneHarry
5 years ago
Reply to  Boris Bullshit

it’s classic fascist propaganda, isn’t it. we are all supposed to be brimming with gratitude towards a benevolent regime which is working tirelessly in our interests. the idea that we should bear responsibility for our own lives is anathema.

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Nigel Sherratt
Nigel Sherratt
5 years ago
Reply to  Boris Bullshit

The local 666 bus route used to have the sign alternately flashing up a cartoon ‘Old Nick’ on the destination boards and there was a large collection of themed stuffed toys by the driver. A jolly bit of local colour until some busybody killjoy complained.

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Laurence
Laurence
5 years ago

The Israeli hospitalisation rates post vaccination look horrendous – this is far from a good news story. Per the Israeli Times, 523,000 people and, according to the Jerusalem Post, 715,000 people have had two doses more than one week ago. According to the Jerusalem Post, they have had between 7 and 18 days since the second dose, or an average of 12.5 days assuming even vaccinations over the time period. However, the new infection has to take effect at least a week after the vaccination to count in these stats, and it would take on a very conservative basis at least 5-10 days from new infection to hospitalisation, so there would be a maximum 3.5 days to be hospitalised (18-7-7.5) and, assuming vaccines are running at a consistent daily level, that would give an average of 1.75 days. So annualise 16 hospitalisations (J Post figure) over 1.75 days, gives 7,787 over a year (16 x 365/1.75) and adjust to the size of the UK population (67m/ 721,000 x 7,787) = 723,618 hospitalisations per year equivalent for the UK. Now, as of yesterday we’ve had 418,148 hospitalisations with COVID (not even all from COVID) in just under one year. So why… Read more »

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swedenborg
swedenborg
5 years ago
Reply to  Laurence

According to Berenson (one of the best as he always links to facts) Times of Israel story is not correct. See below. The best one can say is that after 2 doses you might expect 70 % protection. One dose no protection. Lots of conflicting reports out of Israel and Nethayanu has many suspect connections with Pfizer. Be careful assess any data from Israel.

https://twitter.com/AlexBerenson/status/1359944293331460097

They now claim it is two weeks after the booster dose (5 weeks after the first shot). Only reason to create this subgroup is that it is relatively tiny so deaths are low in it for now. Ignore the headline. The story is in the table, which shows 41 deaths one-week after dose 2

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BeBopRockSteady
BeBopRockSteady
5 years ago
Reply to  swedenborg

Yeah zero deaths is just laughable given what we know.

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Laurence
Laurence
5 years ago
Reply to  Laurence

Correction, annualised Israeli deaths should be 3,337 which is 310,108 on UK equivalent population basis. Still very little improvement over non vaccine.

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swedenborg
swedenborg
5 years ago
Reply to  Laurence

This from Michael Levitt(himself being vaccinated)who is worried about the data

https://twitter.com/MLevitt_NP2013/status/1360454673875009538

In Israel, 3 weeks of 2021 excess death
add to ~400, about third of all IL excess death in 2020.

Likely too early, but a worrying sign. Daily reported Covid deaths dropping but at 45/day still higher than any 7-day average in 2020.

Hope to be wrong.

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