Lockdown “to Continue Until Cases Drop Below 1,000 a Day”
Three weeks ago Government Minister Nick Gibb told Parliament that the criteria for easing lockdown included “hospitalisation rates, mortality, the rate of vaccination, and the challenge of the new variants”. He did not mention raw case numbers.
Today, the Telegraph reports that despite the successful vaccination programme that is expected to reduce hospital admissions and deaths to a fraction of their peak levels, the Government will not end the lockdowns until positive case numbers are below 1,000 a day.
Lockdown is unlikely to be eased significantly until daily Covid cases are in the hundreds, compared with more than 10,000 a day now, the Telegraph understands.
Boris Johnson is due to publish a roadmap out of the restrictions next week, beginning with the reopening of schools from March 8th.
But the plan is unlikely to commit to a clear timetable for the coming months, instead promising a series of reviews which would see the reopening of shops, pubs and restaurants deferred until cases reach a low not seen since August.
Covid cases have fallen significantly in recent weeks and could reach less than 1,000 a day by early April if they continue to decline at the current rate. However, this is likely to be delayed by the impact of the return of schools.
A senior Whitehall source said: “For any significant relaxation of lockdown, household mixing and reopening pubs, case numbers have to be in the hundreds, not thousands.
“The numbers are coming down quite fast, but the plan is likely to be high level and set out the tests that have to be met for restrictions to be released. There is real reluctance about committing to specific dates without knowing what the case numbers are doing.”
1,000 a day is about 1.5 per 100,000 population. This is well below the threshold of 10 per 100,000 for lifting lockdown that even Zero Covid proponents call for. It is in other words a Zero Covid strategy, and an extreme version of it at that.
Last summer, the UK was only below 1,000 cases a day in the seven day running average between June 14th and August 7th, about seven weeks. Since then the number of tests per day has quadrupled from around 160,000 to 640,000. Many suspect that most of the summer “cases” were false positives – 0.63% would be a pretty respectable operational false positive rate for PCR tests. If this were so we could now expect in the region of 4,000 cases a day purely from false positives. The greater reliance on lateral flow tests may reduce this figure, though equally the greater volume of PCR tests may increase the operational false positive rate (through contamination, for example).
There are signs that the cases curve is beginning to level off already at just under the 10,000 level. Is it even possible to get below 1,000 positive cases a day when carrying out as many tests as we are? Is the Government setting itself an impossible target? Why is it appearing to buy in to the Zero Covid framework, when the point of vaccinating the vulnerable at high speed was so that we could “cry freedom”, as Matt Hancock claimed in January, and stop spending billions locking people up?
Ross Clark in the Telegraph rightly criticises the Government’s lamentable refusal to capitalise on the vaccine programme success.
How ironic if we won the race to be the first country to vaccinate all adults – and yet went on to become the last country to reopen society. It is, though, an all-too-likely scenario. If anyone was expecting the see an upbeat Boris Johnson at Monday’s press briefing, forecasting a cheery future after achieving his target of vaccinating 15 million over-70s and other priority groups by the middle of February, they were quickly disappointed.
What he had to offer us wasn’t so much a roadmap to freedom as one of those malfunctioning satnavs which sends you down an unmade track straight into the river.
“We want this lockdown to be the last,” the Prime Minister told us. “And we want progress to be cautious, but also irreversible.” One way to ensure that this lockdown will be the last, of course, would be to ensure that it never ended.
It is gradually dawning on people that in spite of the rapid rollout of vaccines, this summer could turn out to be less free than the last. We may look back to the golden summer of 2020 as a time when the pubs were open, we could book a self-catering holiday and even – at times – visit France and Spain without having to shut ourselves away at home for a fortnight on our return.
The faster the vaccine roll-out advances, the swifter new infections subside, the further the promise of freedom seems to recede. Until January 4th schools weren’t going to close at all. Then they were going to close but reopen in the middle of February. Then it was March 8th and now that looks in doubt, too. We were persuaded to delay family Christmas until Easter, but now the PM declines to answer whether family gatherings will be possible in April.
Worth reading in full.
Dr John Lee in the Mail wonders why the Government is playing its winning hand so badly.
Because Britain is so far ahead with its vaccine programme, compared with the EU, we are in a strong position to restart our economy and steal a march on the rest of the West.
The pound has hit a three-year high against the dollar in expectation of restrictions being eased. Last week in the Daily Mail, Bank of England chief economist Andy Haldane described Britain’s economy as being like a “coiled spring” ready to release vast amounts of “pent-up financial energy”.
Our scientists have given us a miraculous head start to unleash that energy – it would be a tragedy to waste it. If the Government understood this, I believe policy would change. Curbs would be lifted sooner. It is just because No. 10 is listening to a small number of advisers that we face more months of lockdown.
I am the lead pathologist for the Health Action and Recovery Team [HART], which advocates a multidisciplinary approach to data, much wider than that used currently by the Cabinet. Like everyone else, HART is committed to saving lives and boosting health, while protecting the NHS. We’re all on the same side here.
And I certainly do not wish to be reckless or dismissive about the dangers. But the roadmap being suggested now is ultra-cautious, so timid that it will harm far more people than it helps. If the reopening of pubs is delayed until May, for instance, many of them will have gone under by then: six in 10 pubs are already on the brink. And if family gatherings are really to be restricted to six people outdoors until June, millions of loving grandparents, aunts and uncles will be in utter despair.
These restrictions cannot be justified, when it is expected that half the population will have vaccine protection long before then. We have to come to terms with the ugly fact that this disease will continue to be endemic in our population, and it will continue to evolve new variants. Regrettably, we might have incubated these variants, by locking down instead of allowing the milder variants to circulate.
The immune system has evolved over 600 million years, since the beginning of multi-cellular animal life. We ought to trust it more. And we ought to trust the vaccines, which are delivering excellent levels of protection.
The science behind fighting Covid is multi-layered, and politicians need all the help they can get to interpret it correctly. But the message hiding in the figures could not be simpler. There is no good scientific reason to continue the lockdown as the Government plans. The rescinding of restrictions should start as soon as possible.
Worth reading in full.
Stop Press: An additional 1.7 million people have been told by the Government to “shield” due to being at greater Covid risk, even if they’ve had the disease or been vaccinated, the Times reports. Yet more signs that excessive caution is now ruling Government policy and the road out of lockdown threatens to be a long one.
Stop Press 2: The Mail reports on the “roadmap out of lockdown” that will “take until July”. The Government is working on a “blueprint for UK’s pubs, restaurants and hotels” that “would see curbs eased at four-weekly intervals starting with ‘limited’ Easter holidays”. Pubs, bars and restaurants will have to wait until early May and then it will be a maximum of two households allowed to sit together indoors and rule of six. Even in July there will still be social distancing. The Government is set to unveil another slogan: “Are you ready? Get testing. Go”.
“There is No Evidence to Suggest that Kids Should Do Anything Else Other than Be in School”
A Lockdown Sceptics reader has kindly transcribed a powerful statement delivered yesterday by Ron DeSantis, the Governor of Florida, on why Florida has kept schools open throughout the winter and has no intention of changing that, whatever the CDC may say.
Florida schools are open for in-person instruction. Every single parent in this state has a right to send their kid to in-person instruction. We have done it the right way; we are not going to turn back. What the CDC put out five o’clock on a Friday afternoon – I wonder why they would do it then – was quite frankly a disgrace. It would require, if you actually followed that, closing 90% of schools in the United States.
We have been open, they will remain open, and we are not turning back. We’ve been open the whole time since August. We had kids doing camps and athletics and all that over the summer, and we’ve been in-person as much as anybody in the country, and yet we’re 34th out of 50 states and [Washington] D.C. for COVID-19 cases on a per capita basis for children. 33 states have more cases per capita than Florida, for children per capita, and many of those don’t have a lot of in-person instruction in school; and so there is no evidence to suggest that kids should do anything else other than be in school. This has been clear for months and months and months.
We followed the data when we worked to – get the kids – give the parents the option to send their kids back, because we had looked at what happened in Europe, places like Sweden and all these other places, and it does not require another hundred billion dollars.
The school re-opening plan that makes the most sense, if you want to open schools? Open them. Open the door. Let them come in and let them learn. And the only reason that that is not happening across this country, like it is in Florida, like it is in a handful of other states, it’s one reason, and one reason only: because the Democratic party puts the interests of education unions and special interests ahead of the well-being of our children and of our families.
These kids have been out of school in parts of this country for almost a year. If you follow that CDC guidance, they will not go back in this school year, and they may not even go back in the fall. That is a disgrace. That is not science. That is putting politics ahead of what’s right for kids; that is putting politics and special interests ahead of what the evidence and observed experience says.
So we’re better off as a result of giving parents and kids that opportunity. I can tell you I cannot go out without a parent coming up to me saying how much better it is that their child’s able to go to school. And so we’re not looking back; we’re going to continue going forward.
If the world was sane, the experience of Florida and other states that haven’t closed their schools would be more than enough proof that closing schools is unnecessary. But in Covid world, it seems the prophecies of failed models count for more than simple hard evidence of what actually happens.
Stop Press: Jennifer Cabrera in Rational Ground writes “Florida’s COVID-19 response has outperformed lockdown states on excess deaths, education, and the economy”.
Failure of the Lockdown Models
There follows a guest post by mathematics student Glen Bishop, who wrote for Lockdown Sceptics last week about the lack of seasonality in Neil Ferguson’s models.
- On the original SAGE cost benefit analysis for lockdown, this is a real jokers’ manual
This SAGE cost benefit analysis was done on the 520,000 deaths prediction. It estimated Covid deaths would be reduced to around 50,000 with their measures. It estimated average quality life years lost from Covid deaths of 9.1. These are both overestimates: the average age of death with coronavirus is 80.5, and while it’s true that the average 80 year-old is estimated by actuaries to have around nine years left to live, elderly victims of COVID-19 are often particularly frail (around 40% of all victims in spring were residents of nursing homes, who on average live only one to two years), so 9.1 years is way out. It also includes the joke that, in addition to 520,000 Covid deaths, more than one million people would have died because hospitals were busy. One million is twice our yearly deaths – because hospitals would have been very busy for three or four months? The SAGE members who signed that one million figure off as good advice must be in dream world. It also includes estimates that tens of thousands of life-years would be saved thanks to lower pollution levels. Make of that what you will.
120,000 have died already, far greater than 50,000, so the effectiveness of the lockdown strategy has been overestimated massively. At this time, they were using higher estimates of Covid fatality rates, so if anything, deaths should have been lower than estimated. Nowhere in the world has seen even one third the death rate needed for 520,000 UK deaths, let alone the one million figure for additional non-Covid deaths.
Estimated total quality adjusted life years (QALYs) saved from lockdown was put at a net value of around three million from people not dying of coronavirus (ignoring the stupid one million figure which leads to an extra eight million QALYs saved). I think there is a good argument to say that all 67 million people in the country have lost one quality year of life each. That makes 67 million QALYs lost between the living which is far greater than the three million QALYs benefits estimated from avoided Covid deaths even with all the overestimates. These are the hidden effects of lockdowns. Unfortunately, the quality of life of those who do not die and the millions yet to be born, who will have reduced quality of life in the future, is not valued in these analyses. Nor is the effect on those living in developing countries, millions more of whom will be pushed towards starvation and poverty because the west became insular. When you’re starving and don’t have clean drinking water, you’d be forgiven for thinking Covid is a First World problem.
2) Ferguson’s Imperial predictions
Imperial College’s Professor Neil Ferguson told a Parliamentary Select Committee on March 25th (time of quote: 10:37:10): “Fatalities would probably be unlikely to exceed 20,000.” We are at 120,000 deaths after three lockdowns. As I pointed out before, lack of seasonality and proper population heterogeneity assumptions in models lead to over-estimation of the effectiveness of lockdowns. A reminder of how wrong the experts have been with their models and how far we have come.
Imperial predicted 2.1 million deaths for the USA. South Dakota never locked down, hospitals were able to cope, and Imperial’s prediction would assume 5,632 deaths within months for a population of South Dakota’s size. It has been a year with only 1,803 deaths and very few daily deaths now, so the total death toll is less than a third of Imperial’s projection and South Dakota has lower death rates than many states that locked down heavily (though admittedly it is more rural than some of them).
Ferguson’s Swine Flu modelling predicted a reasonable worst-case scenario of 67,000 deaths in 2009 and Ferguson advocated school closures then. Luckily for me the Government at the time ignored this advice. There were 457 deaths.
Now Imperial is predicting a massive summer wave with 130,000 more deaths, even with vaccinations going well, a large build-up in population immunity from prior infection and restrictions easing at a snail’s pace. Last summer cases flatlined across all of Europe, northern US states, Canada, etc. Next to the table of projected deaths, there is a self-congratulatory table of deaths averted, estimated at around 400,000. To arrive at this number they must be assuming that without the measures about 1% of our country would have died. The worst hit places in the world like New York don’t have a quarter of that death toll.
3) Warwick modelling team
Last year this team predicted a massive summer surge of coronavirus cases once restrictions were eased after the first lockdown. It never happened. In the same paper, Warwick failed to predict the winter surge we just had.
This year the same team is again predicting a massive summer surge, even with the large build-up in immunity in the population from prior infection, the vaccination programme going well, and restrictions being eased gradually until finally being lifted fully on July 31st.
The new paper does give “a note of optimism”: if we take Option 6 and steadily reduce restrictions to Tier 1 and keep Tier 1 forever, we can keep the virus supressed indefinitely. If that is their “note of optimism”, I can optimistically suggest a place they can shove it.
4) Professor Edmunds and London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine team (generally more sensible modelling estimates)
This paper estimates that Tier 2 and Tier 3 restrictions have produced 2% and 10% reductions in R-value respectively compared to Tier 1 restrictions. This is a very minimal benefit for all the damage the increased restrictions did to pubs, hospitality, mental health, etc. I specifically point this out as Professor Edmunds has been suggesting the Rule of 6 and other restrictions must remain for the whole of this year and some indefinitely, which implies Tier 2 or 3 remaining – yet his own paper estimates very little benefit to Tiers 2 and 3!
5) Trying to bring the problem into proportion, a thought experiment
Imagine if you lived in a village with 500 people and had to make a choice:
Option 1: All 500 of you spend the next 12 months living just as you have for the last 12 months. Constant lockdowns and restrictions on your lives and liberties and all the consequences that brings to businesses, jobs, schooling, current and future quality of life. Locking children in houses, exposing some to abuse. The burdening of children and grandchildren who aren’t born yet with debt. The serious harm to the vulnerable in the developing world.
Or Option 2: One or two out of the 500 of you dies four years earlier than you otherwise would have and many of you get a rather unpleasant illness, but from which most of you recover easily and all else stays normal, with your civil liberties remaining.
This, in a nutshell, is the question of lockdowns put into perspective without big numbers our brains are not built to comprehend. Professor Ferguson might protest that it should be a room with 200 people, or another SAGE member might say it needs to be five years not four years to represent the average length of life lost to Covid. But essentially this is the question of the day in layman’s terms. I would personally pick the four years if I were alone in the village let alone with 500 people. I am fairly sure one year in my 20s is worth four years in my 80s or 90s. I think practically everyone would agree on Option 2. The best points in my life have been when on a motorbike or in the mountains so maybe I’m just not risk averse, but do we really want to turn into a society that engages in massive sacrifices to quality of life for hundreds in the (vain) hope of slightly increasing the longevity of one? Certain catastrophic long-term harm to society in return for an uncertain benefit.
This is how SAGE should lay out these problems to ministers who are largely innumerate. If Boris had been given this question, put like this, would he seriously have made the decisions he has?
Last year SAGE and governments across the world selected Option 1 and most have not even managed to avoid the costs of Option 2. This year they seem intent on repeating the failed experiment.
Left and Right Should Unite to Fight Lockdown
We’re publishing an original piece today by Professor Ramesh Thakur, a former Assistant Secretary-General of the United Nations and a Lockdown Sceptics contributor. Describing himself as “a centrist on some issues, right-of-centre on others and left-of-centre on still others”, he explores the strange politics of Covid.
Who’d have thought the left would champion censorship by profiteering Big Tech and cheer Big Pharma, enthusiastically endorsing the privatisation of profits as governments competed to sign multi-billion dollar contracts in advance at guaranteed prices; and the socialisation of risks as drug companies were granted immunity from liability for vaccines going wrong like thalidomide? On December 23rd, Forbes published a list of 50 doctors, scientists and healthcare entrepreneurs who became new pandemic billionaires in 2020 – including nearly three dozen in China.
Remember the class action case in Australia in 2009? Court documents revealed US drug giant Merck had prepared a ‘hit list’ of doctors who criticised Vioxx for its deadly cardiovascular side-effects, with the labels ‘discredit’, ‘neutralise’ or ‘neutralised’ against their names. You’ll be shocked, I’m sure, to learn that on February 4th, Merck – which makes patent-free low profit Ivermectin and has been selling it for years – released a statement questioning both its efficacy and safety. Liberal progressives fall in dutifully behind Government efforts to protect and maximise pharmaceutical profits through vaccines by banning doctors from recommending hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin, zinc, azithromycin and Vitamin D for prophylaxis and early outpatient treatment.
Worth reading in full.
Tribute to Local Shops that Have Died of Covid
Lockdown Sceptics reader Suzi Warren is mourning the local high street victims of the Covid lockdowns.
I’m grieving the loss of shops and cafes that haven’t made it through this. My area has lost vitality and I want to mark the passing of vibrant stores which were small beating hearts on my streets.
I laid this floral tribute last week decorated with flowers made from unused shop bags. This place used to be where I’d buy supplies for great Friday film nights with friends. It’s now been gutted which is how I feel about it.
We love this idea. If readers want to send us pictures of their favourite shops that have closed forever as a result of the lockdowns, along with a short tribute, email us here.
More on Gibraltar
Following our guest post by a reader yesterday about the surging death toll in Gibraltar and asking whether it might have any link to the vaccine rollout, the First Minister of the territory pointed us to this Reuters “fact check“. It concludes there is “no evidence whatsoever that these deaths are linked to the roll out of the vaccine”.
The increase appears to be part of an upward trend that started before the first vaccine dose was administered.
On January 27th, the Government said in a statement that out of the more than 11,000 people who had been vaccinated, six had died for unrelated reasons (here).
“The Gibraltar Health Authority can confirm that there is no evidence at all of any causal link between these six deaths and the inoculation with the Pfizer vaccine”, the press release said. “Statements to the contrary on social media are entirely untrue.”
According to the Government, these six people appear to have caught COVID-19 before they were vaccinated.
“Despite testing for COVID-19 before vaccination, the infection had not been detected in them at the time they were vaccinated, but in the days immediately after.”
These people were all aged between 70 and 100, the Government said.
While it’s true that deaths were heading up before the vaccine rollout began, if you look at the above graph you can see a sharp acceleration in deaths beginning around January 13th, as the vaccination programme got going. Again, this could be coincidence. But note the Government itself says that six people died with Covid after having the vaccine despite testing negative beforehand: “Despite testing for COVID-19 before vaccination, the infection had not been detected in them at the time they were vaccinated, but in the days immediately after.”
Norway has already said the frail elderly should not receive the Pfizer vaccine after worries about linked deaths. Maybe the country is just being over-cautious, and maybe the “signals” are just coincidences because the vaccine is being rolled out in winter. But what if they’re not? Rather than smearing anyone who raises the question as an anti-vaxxer, maybe people should start looking into the matter properly, if only to rule it out.
What’s Your Lockdown Personality?
A psychologist and Lockdown Sceptics reader has created a lockdown personality quiz as part of some research he’s doing and he’s asked us to share it with you.
This lockdown personality quiz tells you which one of five “lockdown personality types” fits you best, and gives you a few “lockdown survival” tips based on your results. The research itself is looking at how lockdown attitudes and behaviours cluster together into groups, and how they’re linked to personality. The insights could help explain why some people are more sceptical while others are stubbornly pro-lockdown, and what psychological processes are responsible for changing people’s minds. To be successful, the research needs to collect data from non-sceptical people too, so please feel free to share it with your friends and family!
If you’d like to participate in this research, you can complete a personality questionnaire here.
Poetry Corner
Young and Social
by Mike Smelt
When do they get their social lives back?
It’s critical they get them back on track.
The young need their friends, it’s plain to see,
It’s hard to find any that disagree.
The landlords need to open their pub,
Without a substantial meal, or dodgy grub.
What is the issue with going for a drink?
Forget the zealots creating an irrational stink.
Let the young ones have a rave,
It’s pointless telling them how to behave
They are unaffected by this disease,
It is fought off with incredible ease
Let them go out and dance in a club,
Whether it be house, or grime or dub.
They cannot be denied of living free lives
Or possibly meeting their future wives
All this time without going on dates
Or meeting up and seeing their mates.
It simply cannot go on any longer,
Their feelings of isolation getting stronger
Watching live music, going to gigs,
Rather than staying in solitary digs
It’s simply unfair and completely pointless
Remembering the good times with increasing fondness
Travelling stopped, the missing gap year,
Meeting new friends over a beer.
None of this was necessary, it has to stop,
The challenge is convincing those at the top.
Round-up
- “Suspicions mount that the coronavirus was spreading in China and Europe as early as October, following a WHO investigation” – A report in Business Insider says the evidence suggests the the pandemic’s December anniversary is arbitrary
- “Why goal is to live with the virus – not fight it” – Nick Triggle on the BBC takes on Zero Covid
- “Covid in Context” – An enterprising reader has put together a leaflet of key facts to help advance the sceptic cause and made it available for download
- “UK spots 42 cases of ANOTHER Covid variant” – The Mail on more reasons for the Government to keep us locked down
- “Mystery plunge in coronavirus cases in India baffles experts” – Those will be the same experts who have struggled to get to grips with the concept of pre-existing immunity, in the Mail
- “One in five has Covid antibodies as vaccine campaign pays off” – 20% of the UK population now tests positive for antibodies in the ONS survey, rising to 40% among the over 80s, reports the Times
- “Charles Walker for PM, Modelling, Travel bans” – Episode 20 of the Real Normal Podcast is here
- “If you’re an ethnic minority Conservative, you just can’t win” – CapX report on the hounding of Government Minister Kemi Badenoch by Leftists policing the bounds of identitarian orthodoxy. It’s a good piece, but ironically it’s by Covid Inquisitor Neil O’Brien MP, who has the gall to write: “If everything I said was misrepresented … I don’t think I’d enjoy it much”. Yes, Toby and others know exactly what you mean, Neil
- “Dutch crisis as court orders end to Covid curfew” – BBC report on the remarkable ruling from a court in the Hague telling the Dutch government that an overnight curfew must be lifted, ruling that it breaches the right to free movement. More like this please
- “Covid regulations have been taken too far by draconian universities” – William Parker, a student at Cardiff University, writes in Bournbrook about the severe lockdown measures currently being imposed in universities across the country
- Bill Gates urges us to just eat synthetic beef
Theme Tunes Suggested by Readers
Eight today: “Stuck In A Moment You Can’t Get Out Of” by U2, “The Changingman” by Paul Weller, “What’cha Gonna Do About It” by the Small Faces, “So much trouble in the world” by Bob Marley, “Divide and Rule” by Wailing Souls, “Down to Zero” by Joan Armatrading and “Holding On” and “Still in the Game” by Steve Winwood.
Love in the Time of Covid
We have created some Lockdown Sceptics Forums, including a dating forum called “Love in a Covid Climate” that has attracted a bit of attention. We have a team of moderators in place to remove spam and deal with the trolls, but sometimes it takes a little while so please bear with us. You have to register to use the Forums as well as post comments below the line, but that should just be a one-time thing. Any problems, email Lockdown Sceptics here.
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Woke Gobbledegook
We’ve decided to create a permanent slot down here for woke gobbledegook. Today, following on from Toby’s report yesterday on the FSU’s victory over snake oil Unconscious Bias training, the Mail reports on similar problems at other Oxford colleges.
More Oxford colleges and departments are forcing students and staff to have “unconscious bias training” to root out hidden racist behaviour – even though there’s no evidence that it works.
The Government insists that the training “does not achieve its intended aims”, could make discrimination issues worse, and should be axed by the public sector.
Yet the courses remain popular, including at Somerville, Margaret Thatcher’s former Oxford college, where students were ordered to pass a test in which they had to concede that a black lecturer would be more unpopular than white colleagues.
Following an outcry, Somerville’s principal, Lady Royall, said students would no longer be compelled to take the course, but other colleges are still insisting undergraduates and dons complete the often “poor quality and ineffective” training.
Yesterday, a prominent Oxford historian accused universities of “dismal failure” over free speech, saying they were guilty of “cynically” backing diversity campaigns at the expense of real debate.
Professor Selina Todd, who has been hounded for criticising transgender activists who stifle debate, told Radio 4 that Oxford’s commitment to freedom of speech “completely conflicted” with its diversity policy.
She said: “Things have got a lot worse for academics and students. Many get in touch with me anonymously to say how frightened they are to speak out.”
The Cabinet Office says of unconscious bias training: “A strong body of evidence has emerged that shows that such training has no sustained impact on behaviour and may even be counter-productive. Instructions to suppress stereotypes may not only activate and reinforce unhelpful stereotypes, they may provoke negative reactions and actually make people exacerbate their biases.”
However, Christ Church, Oxford’s grandest college, said “key priorities” this year include “compulsory enhanced training on topics such as cultural competency, unconscious bias, and race equality to all students… as well as for non-academic and academic staff”.
Balliol College, alma mater of Boris Johnson, Ted Heath and Harold Macmillan, said last year it was “expanding the mandatory programme of unconscious bias/tackling race bias training to include all academic staff”.
Oxford’s Nuffield Department of Medicine also offers “mandatory” unconscious bias training for all staff, to help them minimise the “destructive impact” of discriminatory attitudes. The Radcliffe Department of Medicine says staff must complete similar training.
The University of Cambridge also offers unconscious bias training, but it is only compulsory for those involved in staff recruitment, a spokesman said.
Worth reading in full.
Sounds like another job for FSUperman…
Stop Press: Madeleine Kearns in Law & Liberty writes that the Scottish government’s proposed “Hate Crime and Public Order Bill” is a new blasphemy law for woke orthodoxy.
Scotland’s new established religion — the Church of Equality, Diversity, and Inclusion — is indistinguishable from government which it uses as the arm of enforcement. It is fittingly ironic, then, that the same bill that would formally abolish the Nineteenth Century offence of blasphemy, would formally institute a new one, “fit for purpose in the 21st century”.
Worth reading in full.
Stop Press 2: The redoubtable Heather Mac Donald points out a glaring contradiction in woke orthodoxy on Tucker Carlson: on the one hand, the wokesters decry America as an endemically racist country where small children of colour can’t leave their homes without being shot by the police; but on the other, they want to open America’s borders to as many people of colour as possible so they can make their homes in this racist hell-hole. Eh?
“Mask Exempt” Lanyards
We’ve created a one-stop shop down here for people who want to obtain a “Mask Exempt” lanyard/card – because wearing a mask causes them “severe distress”, for instance. You can print out and laminate a fairly standard one for free here and the Government has instructions on how to download an official “Mask Exempt” notice to put on your phone here. And if you feel obliged to wear a mask but want to signal your disapproval of having to do so, you can get a “sexy world” mask with the Swedish flag on it here.
A reader has started a website that contains some useful guidance about how you can claim legal exemption. Another reader has created an Android app which displays “I am exempt from wearing a face mask” on your phone. Only 99p.
If you’re a shop owner and you want to let your customers know you will not be insisting on face masks or asking them what their reasons for exemption are, you can download a friendly sign to stick in your window here.
And here’s an excellent piece about the ineffectiveness of masks by a Roger W. Koops, who has a doctorate in organic chemistry. See also the Swiss Doctor’s thorough review of the scientific evidence here and Prof Carl Heneghan and Dr Tom Jefferson’s Spectator article about the Danish mask study here.
Stop Press: The European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control has issued an update to its guidance on masks in which it admits there is no good evidence for their effectiveness.
The evidence regarding the effectiveness of medical face masks for the prevention of COVID-19 in the community is compatible with a small to moderate protective effect, but there are still significant uncertainties about the size of this effect. Evidence for the effectiveness of non-medical face masks, face shields/visors and respirators in the community is scarce and of very low certainty.
The Great Barrington Declaration
The Great Barrington Declaration, a petition started by Professor Martin Kulldorff, Professor Sunetra Gupta and Professor Jay Bhattacharya calling for a strategy of “Focused Protection” (protect the elderly and the vulnerable and let everyone else get on with life), was launched in October and the lockdown zealots have been doing their best to discredit it ever since. If you googled it a week after launch, the top hits were three smear pieces from the Guardian, including: “Herd immunity letter signed by fake experts including ‘Dr Johnny Bananas’.” (Freddie Sayers at UnHerd warned us about this the day before it appeared.) On the bright side, Google UK has stopped shadow banning it, so the actual Declaration now tops the search results – and Toby’s Spectator piece about the attempt to suppress it is among the top hits – although discussion of it has been censored by Reddit. In February, Facebook deleted the GBD’s page because it “goes against our community standards”. The reason the zealots hate it, of course, is that it gives the lie to their claim that “the science” only supports their strategy. These three scientists are every bit as eminent – more eminent – than the pro-lockdown fanatics so expect no let up in the attacks. (Wikipedia has also done a smear job.)
You can find it here. Please sign it. Now over three quarters of a million signatures.
Update: The authors of the GBD have expanded the FAQs to deal with some of the arguments and smears that have been made against their proposal. Worth reading in full.
Update 2: Many of the signatories of the Great Barrington Declaration are involved with new UK anti-lockdown campaign Recovery. Find out more and join here.
Update 3: You can watch Sunetra Gupta set out the case for “Focused Protection” here and Jay Bhattacharya make it here.
Update 4: The three GBD authors plus Prof Carl Heneghan of CEBM have launched a new website collateralglobal.org, “a global repository for research into the collateral effects of the COVID-19 lockdown measures”. Follow Collateral Global on Twitter here. Sign up to the newsletter here.
Judicial Reviews Against the Government
There are now so many legal cases being brought against the Government and its ministers we thought we’d include them all in one place down here.
The Simon Dolan case has now reached the end of the road. The current lead case is the Robin Tilbrook case which challenges whether the Lockdown Regulations are constitutional, although that case, too, has been refused permission to proceed. There’s still one more thing that can be tried. You can read about that and contribute here.
Then there’s John’s Campaign which is focused specifically on care homes. Find out more about that here.
There’s the GoodLawProject and Runnymede Trust’s Judicial Review of the Government’s award of lucrative PPE contracts to various private companies. You can find out more about that here and contribute to the crowdfunder here.
Scottish Church leaders from a range of Christian denominations have launched legal action, supported by the Christian Legal Centre against the Scottish Government’s attempt to close churches in Scotland for the first time since the the Stuart kings in the 17th century. The church leaders emphasised it is a disproportionate step, and one which has serious implications for freedom of religion.” Further information available here.
There’s the class action lawsuit being brought by Dr Reiner Fuellmich and his team in various countries against “the manufacturers and sellers of the defective product, PCR tests”. Dr Fuellmich explains the lawsuit in this video. Dr Fuellmich has also served cease and desist papers on Professor Christian Drosten, co-author of the Corman-Drosten paper which was the first and WHO-recommended PCR protocol for detection of SARS-CoV-2. That paper, which was pivotal to the roll out of mass PCR testing, was submitted to the journal Eurosurveillance on January 21st and accepted following peer review on January 22nd. The paper has been critically reviewed here by Pieter Borger and colleagues, who also submitted a retraction request, which was rejected in February.
And last but not least there was the Free Speech Union‘s challenge to Ofcom over its ‘coronavirus guidance’. A High Court judge refused permission for the FSU’s judicial review on December 9th and the FSU has decided not to appeal the decision because Ofcom has conceded most of the points it was making. Check here for details.
Samaritans
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The people have the power to stop this if they stop taking the damn tests!
People could stop this if they started to think for themselves.
PS I’ll take bronze as a first time on the podium.
From Wikipedia: “The Great Reset is the name of the 50th annual meeting of the World Economic Forum (WEF), held in June 2020. It brought together high-profile business and political leaders, convened by the Prince of Wales and the WEF, with the theme of rebuilding society and the economy in a more sustainable way following the COVID-19 pandemic.[1]”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Reset
Great to see Prince Charles planning to ruin our lives:
“One won’t own anything, but I will, so I’ll be happy”
3 complaints – you posted this yesterday; it does not respond to Richy in any way; we are not “one”, Charles is. A better quote would be “one and one’s chums will get the lot’ you plebs will get nowt”.
They can’t do that they have given up all bodily autonomy to the state. It is much too difficult to form an opinion of your own now.
A second full size testing centre was erected in my city centre about a month ago. Each time I pass nothing is happening with just bored Security Guards to be seen.
I saw the ad. Wanted Security Guards. Must have experience of doing sweet f a and ability to look into the far distance.
Excellent!
Every time I have gone past the Bentley Road one on the Hackney/Islington border (third time yesterday) it has been practically deserted. Late morning but I doubt whether it is queues round the block at any time.
Lots of great sceptics comments under all the articles in the DM, in fact probably 90% and getting majority upvotes. Very encouraging
Yes definitely let’s hope people are waking up
I’ve been watching Sky News Australia. The ”vaccine” is about to be rolled out – nearly every comment is ANTI. Well worth watching to lift the spirits.
a tale of two Sky’s
How is SNA so different to woke Sky?
Two different companies. SNA is owned by Murdoch, SNUK is owned by Comcast (I think).
any chance you or someone could add a link thing ? i cant figureout how to find it for some optimism. thank you
Yes, I had a clickfest.
Yes, I have noticed this too. Readers are increasingly critical of the continued lockdown. There may well be more sceptics out there than we realise.
we’ll soon know when people can’t book holidays
I do not give consent to being labelled and don’t take identity there.
“sceptics”
The memetic mind manipulations of propagandists (for any side) are an invitation to groupthink. To masking in a social ID. If there is a real desire for freedom, why does it first cage itself and then ‘fight’?
I don’t take identity from what I do not value or accept as worthy or true.
I don’t need ‘scepticism’ in the face of direct and open deceit.
Poison wont change by giving it a chance to explain itself.
Lies don’t earn or argue the right to become true.
As for the DM, yes, the willingness to give ‘trust’ in exchange for what exactly? will wear thin to a discontent that is managed by the Media that it persists in engaging with for its reinforcement of identity and world.
Worth checking out the best rated comments on this article.
Roadmap out of lockdown (but it’ll take until July): Blueprint for UK’s pubs, restaurants and hotels would see curbs eased at four-weekly intervals starting with ‘limited’ Easter holidays
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9267563/Roadmap-lockdown-Blueprint-UKs-future-suggests-pubs-business-May.html
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9267563/Roadmap-lockdown-Blueprint-UKs-future-suggests-pubs-business-May.html#comments
Current best rated comment is this:
‘What is the point in vaccinating all the vulnerable if we still have to sit in for another 3 months. Had enough’
3612 upticks 105 downticks
well, after 3 months the people will be like a “coiled spring” and spend all their money with the cattle prod of negative interest rates if they don’t.
Now up to over 5000 upticks , 166 downticks
That makes a change from the usual sheeple that think Lockdown are great.
Maybe the 77th is having a day off?
Half term 😁
The testing centres are always empty.This is being driven mainly by continuous testing in hospitals,care homes and employers.
Also we have received an email from my daughters school stating that when pupils return they will be subject to testing.
The government have devised a system where they can have lockdown for as long as they want.
Hopefully they have also told you that it requires parental consent for them to do that, which you at liberty to decline to give.
I can confirm the care homes bit. My son is in supported living. All the support staff are still being tested twice a week, even after they have had the first jab; and the stupid bastards are still wearing masks for their full shift.
So are the vaccination centres. Mr Bart and I walked past the one in the Olympic park and it was absolutely dead. One of the security guards who wasn’t wearing a muzzle had taken to chatting to passers by while his colleague was on his phone the whole time.
presume it is my taxes paying their salaries while they do nothing which would warrant payment – the same taxes the government will likely continue to demand I pay while denying me the right to leave my own home if I refuse to have the vaccine
Stop testing then. Get on with life. Tell everyone else to stop testing for every sniffle, mini cough or whatever else. DONE. Until of course, the vaccine side effects arrive and we will be in another lockdown because of a “new variant” scam and we need to wait for a new vaccine. It has been the theatre of the absurd for the last 11 months, whoever isn’t awake now, will never wake up, and ultimately perish in the flood of poison the needles will deliver. Boy is this year going to be a rough ride still…
the wheel of death intensifies
I could have written that, but you said it rather better. Thanks.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/mass-tests-for-teachers-and-pupils-to-be-part-of-england-lockdown-easing-report-says/ar-BB1dL1hd
Yes, I can see lockdown easing itself back into lockdown…
ps., apologies for the msn link
That is what I said yesterday. Stop testing the well
Meanwhile, The Telegraph reports that new “cases” must fall below 1,000 a day to lift restrictions. That will be impossible with mass false positive testing.
Yes, in theory. But what is happening in places like Australia or China where they are mass testing entire populations?
Anyone have any stats on, when for example a single case shows up in Perth, and they test a tonne of people, how many positive tests they get?
Anyone have any info about mass tests in supposedly zero-covid places?
Low cts. Apparently, OZ uses 23, we use 40+.
40+ is ridiculous.
Well, yes. It has always been one of the the biggest contentious issues.
That explains an awful lot. According to Kary Mullis, the inventor of PCR, used above 35 cycles you can find anything in anything. On that basis, every single PCR test in the UK would likely be invalid.
It says the testing will be LFT so fewer false positives at least. Still going straight in the bin though if I get sent one
Funny , Dr Lee has been saying that since last May……..crickets
My views exactly
The people have the power to stop this if they stop wearing masks. The people have the power to stop this if they stop staying at home. On it goes – but the people are still obeying, and even if they are grumbling are not resisting in any way the government will listen to. They will carry on getting tested and this will continue. The more who wake up to what is going on the better, but I don’t think it’s anything like the numbers needed to make a difference.
Hear, hear!!! When people stop obeying this whole sham falls apart.
Just heard on my radio news that the government is switching to LFT tests. Anyone else hear that. Oh and the nhs say they will be overwhelmed for the next four months. Didn’t hear anything after that as I was too busy swearing at the radio.
I just had to turn it off. That utter cunt James O’Brien was arguing with himself that it was ok (“a funny story”) for a postman to leave an elderly lady lying on the floor “because pandemic reasons” until he had a little think about what if it was his mother.
What a despicable cunt. I never use that word. But he merits it. He’s been banging on ALL YEAR about how selfish other people are not following rules etc, when it is now patently obvious it is HIS fear and HIS selfishness that matters more than anything else and old ladies with osteoporosis left lying outside on the floor be damned.
What a piece of shit he is.
Jesus wept. Thank God I don’t listen to the radio anymore.
“The people have the power to stop this if they stop wearing masks. The people have the power to stop this if they stop staying at home.”
Sadly I don’t expect this to happen anytime soon. It would seem that most non-sceptics are of the view that, “all this would be over if people just behaved themselves and followed the rules”.
Exactly what my damned dentist said. (Insert whiny voice here) “If everyone just followed the rules, we would be out of this by now” He clearly ascribes common humanity and common sense to our political class.. Stupid fool.
Has he heard of Sweden? It’s quite a big country.
I was in a conversation in the pub back in August(I think) with two regular blokes who I just started chatting with. Mainly discussing CV, they had similar backgrounds to me sent the kids to the local public school, good jobs etc. The conversation came around to masks which they had been wearing. I said to them that masks are an easily visible signal to the government of belief and compliance in the policies, nothing to do with public health and if everyone stopped wearing them the government would know the game was up and it would be over.
Whoosh! End of conversation.
Ill meet them again, I hope, when it reopens and see if they still have such beliefs. Its too late once you start as your family will do the same, so unmasking is difficult once started for the masses.
They are not only a sign of compliance. The physical act of wearing a mask, even if initially you don’t believe it makes sense, encourages you buy into the lie. We are not pure minds. We try to remove contradictions between our mental beliefs and our physical actions. Wearing a mask tends to make you believe in them.
YES! This is so important. Those on the enemy side understand this in a way that most of Joe Public certainly do not.
There is a psychic element to all this that the insiders know about, but which the public either don’t understand or that they think is fantasy. This sort of thing (We try to remove contradictions between our mental beliefs and our physical actions. Wearing a mask tends to make you believe in them.) is a very powerful mind-conditioning process.
It seems to be that Covid zealots won’t or can’t discuss the logistics of the Coronahoax.
Agreed. Big numbers needed to stop complying with the measures.
Telegram::
The Great Reopening 20th March
What happened to the World Day of Protests on 13.3.?!…..
Worldwide Day of Protest — #IDoNotComply
We have to concentrate on waking people up for action on 20th.
We’ve got different (competing?) groups trying to organize big protests. AFAIK StandupX is calling for a major protest on 20/3; I don’t know about 13/3. It’s difficult to see through the fog of war here, with various apparent lockdown opponents calling each other deep state plants etc.
Who is actually taking these tests?
Military personnel, hospital staff, care home staff, school staff. Twice weekly for most of those.
I know people that have weekly tests “for something to do.” Yes, you read that right!
Pretty sure the numbers are plucked out of the air so lockdown will never ease due to ‘case’ numbers but gov’t already know that
So this is the future,eternal lockdown with a few weeks out in the summer or is it more likely we are all being held hostage,until the vaccine is forced on everyone in the country.
Maybe people will start voting with their faces? (I’m 6th comment of the day by the way – just gone 5. I’ll not be getting higher than this again.)
Indeed. See my comment. We’ve rumbled them.
We have,but how many others?
There will be thousand a day by April and that will continue to decline like it did last year. The thing everyone should remember is that with vaccination the numbers will not only decline but stay down. What vaccination does is prevent serious illness in other words less people in hospital and with less hospital patients you will get less infections in the community..
To everyone who dislikes my comment please don’t allow yourself to be sucked into the nations negativity. We all know it’s not covid that is the problem it’s lockdown that as destroyed everyone’s humanity. The vaccine and the 98% who’ve recovered and thus immune will give us the herd immunity to free us all. Or maybe I am being too optimistic. I believe we need to look ahead and see that talk of vaccine passports needs to be countered that in the future covid will be no worse than flu. We don’t have flu passports so why covid passports ?
You are being voted down because you are portraying the vaccines as capable of lessening symptoms, which is far from being proven.
No worse than flu but inject every kid with experimental gene therapy to counter it. OK then. Take the vaccine if you like, please don’t shill it as my way to freedom.
I am not having the vaccine not because I don’t believe it won’t work or because it’s unsafe but because I believe most of us are immune. But many of us aren’t immune and it’s them that need vaccination together with carers who look after the most vulnerable.
Carers, or anyone, should not be forced to have an experimental vaccine though.
If you don’t think the vaccine is necessary you should stop the PR on its behalf.
As long as it remains optional I have no problem with your comment DT
Many of us fear the opposite though
I agree but it seems everyone is more concerned if the vaccine works or is safe ,rather than most of us are already immune. I work for the nhs and everyone I know whose had AZ vaccine has had side effects.One colleague who previously had covid said the side effects were ten times worse than covid. I believe we shouldn’t copy the covid scaremongers by becoming vaccine scarrmongers.
So improve your health,write to your newspapers and mp protesting and improve your immunity.
When the “volunteers” dry up they will attempt to force their lethal injections onto the rest of us.
Your views on Covid vaccines were lifted from a Pfizer press release and have nothing else to support them. What’s more you have totally overlooked the deaths and hospitalisations, that as surely as night follows day, have followed Covid vaccination.
I’ve never read any Pfizer press release or AZ for what’s it’s worth. The deaths which maybe caused by the vaccine I believe is more likely to be caused by the lockdown. What I mean is lockdown causes immunity to decline so if you happen to be with an infected person, while getting vaccinated your likely to get infected. But eventually enough will get vaccinated to build up immunity to end the pandemic.
Derek, you made a very good point and I think you are correct. Perhaps you were down ticked because you committed a common but , to some ears , irritating ,use of “less” when some would prefer “fewer” . Repeat that last sentence over to yourself and you will see that it sounds better with “fewer ” rather than “less”.
Your comment above was voted down because it is simply incorrect. Vaccines are not proven to prevent you from getting the illness, only milder symptoms. And with symptoms you will still test positive and even without symptoms you can still test positive until 90 days after an infection (with or without vaccine). A scam is a scam is a scam, and it starts with the PCR tests.
They aren’t even proven to do that. Their trials only showed a reduction in positive PCR tests with a methodology with such little rigour, it would make a schoolboy blush.
Your argument only works if you don’t understand the last bit I was aiming at – the PCR tests. A vaccine doesn’t prevent shit. Even if people won’t go to hospital, they will still have symptoms, hence will be forced to take a test, and most likely they will still spread it at home… and since we are now stuck with the “case numbers decide” narrative, those positive tests even with people at home will keep the screws on.
I agree and try to explain to people that a vaccine is not a shield but a better weapon to fight infection. So yes you can get infected and be infectious but you won’t get severe pneumonia but instead maybe a cold. I also understand that if you’ve had covid a vaccine won’t give you more protection. So it’s bad science for the government to encourage people you’ve been infected to get vaccinated and also denies vulnerable people getting vaccinated.
…. and an even better shield/weapon is vit c, d and zinc , ivermectin, HCQ, and a good diet. I agree if you have had it that you should not get a jab, but a T-cell test is, i believe the best way to know if you have a immunity.
Good point and shall try to remember for the future.
The vaccines are virtually unproven for efficacy and their safety will be very much in doubt for the next several years. Although you infer otherwise, I see you as a pusher on behalf of the vaccine lobby and possibly a paid one at that.
Sorry to say your wrong on all counts. If you’ve seen my other comments you will see I believe only those who would benefit should be vaccinated. I myself believe most of us don’t need vaccination as where immune and is why I won’t get vaccinated. But please instead of criticising me criticise those who want vaccine passports. Together we can end this madness but divided where destined for oblivion.
I don’t think the vaccine will make any difference. What difference had it made so far?
Well, it got rid of a few people. Less mouths to feed, hospital beds to find, pensions to pay, etc, etc.
And that was the whole point behind it. The worthless globalist filth had exactly that in mind
Much more likely.
Yes this is all propaganda designed to conjure up as many “volunteers” for the lethal injections as they possibly can. When no more “volunteers” come forward they will come for the refuseniks and the real fight will begin.
They cannot allow a large pool of non-vaccinated to remain at large, while at the same time the vaccinated are dropping like flies, as their game would then be up. Hard times ahead for all.
Bunter’s got a big problem hasn’t he…? The plan – and we know there’s a plan – is to get the whole country suckered into taking the vaccine and following that up with the app/control/covidpassport crap thing, thus sliding everyone into a ”new normal” under this totalitarian control regime they want to impose. However its going pear shaped isn’t it?
Vaccine roll-out wasn’t quick enough, vaccine take-up is slow, vaccine scepticisim is rising, vaccine reaction horror stories are leaking out. And at the same time hospitalisations are dropping, case numbers are dropping, deaths (with covid) are dropping. The urgency, the moment, is falling away before his eyes.
So what’s left in the armoury; more ”variants” and now moving the goalposts once again to this 1000 case/day target bollox. Not much is it.
How to fight back? No more PCR testing by anyone. No more vaccine take up by anyone. That has to be the message to get out there. Then its a stand-off and Doris will have to reveal his true colours. The moment he goes nuclear (enforced vaccinations, bring in the army, whatever) he’s blown it. He knows it. He must be having trouble sleeping now. Good!
Why should anybody bother getting the snake oil if the concentration camp is to go on for ever? Makes no bloody difference, does it?
As I said, refusal to vaccinate will force their hand. It’s a stand off, but you’re this far in anyway, what’s it matter. What is needed is a tipping point when more realise the ruse. More people starting to get the message that this is nothing to do with a virus and is something much bigger will surely cause the civil unrest and rioting that is now the only way to break this!
Indeed what is going on is huge. Unless the people bring an end to the Covid hoax, it will carry on until the globalists reach their population reduction targets.
Around 95% of us will have to go, according to the Georgia Guidestones. The depopulating agents are of course, the hardly tested and zero liability vaccines, whose real work is only just getting underway. Very dangerous times ahead for all.
If there were a massive depopulation agenda, the approach isn’t the obvious one, surely? It seems a bit convoluted.
Would it not be better to design a virus that harmed babies in the developing world? Zika type of thing. Not something that attacked 80+ aged people in developed nations.
Or do something actually proven to work. You know, like educate girls so that they want careers and not 9 babies.
It’s a good point. Also, gates and pharma would be killing their consumer base. I think these forces see great profit potential in MRNAs and the whole passport thing links in nicely with the creepy technocrats.
I don’t think they want to kill off multi millions of people but I do think they are callous enough to experiment with it and see what the consequences are. Just what they are doing basically.
It all depends on what Gates has as his priorities. He is a lifelong eugenicist, who believes the world is vastly overpopulated and so if he can make a killing, both literally and financially, on the way to a far less crowded planet then he wins both ways.
I am well aware, like most of us, that Covid-19 only kills those who are about to die of something else and so of course it won’t bring about a real depopulation all by itself. However the dodgy Covid vaccines are a very different matter and already they are cutting great swathes through nursing and care homes across the globe.
Despite these early deaths, the danger for most won’t be the immediate period after the jab and their real problems will only start a year or so down the road. The ensuing glut of deaths will naturally be blamed on some new variant or other. So of course, new vaccines will be introduced designed expressly to deal with those stronger types, who resisted the vaccine cull, first time around.
Right, they could become Marketeers or Accountants,for example.
Why on earth would they want a dangerous virus running loose, which might pose a real danger to themselves and their kin. Much much better to put the depopulating agent into the vaccine for a hyped up infection, which at the end of the day may not even exist.
i just met 3 more people who wont get vaccine and am working on convincing others not to. don’t get vaccine i wont
I agree, the propoganda is all a take exercise to force vaccine take up. Why is the Daily Telegraph continuously campaigning for the facist vaccine passport and digital ID policies? Whilst they are better than the Stalinist BBC who do not allow a single squeak of dissent, I have been disappointed with the extent of Boris’ apparent control over the Telegraph.
” I have been disappointed with the extent of Boris’ apparent control over the Telegraph.”
Not necessarily Johnson. Bill Gates gave the DT science unit a wad of money.
Yes, quite a few million quid. All in the name of philanthropy of course.
Bought by successive Tsunamis of Covid advertising propaganda.
The ‘control’ is easy to explain. The DT have been bought off – legally. The government is their biggest advertiser with their scary ads. The DT will not bite the hand that feeds them.
That’s a good plan.
I hope so. I dont know how he can live with himself the damage he is doing!
And don’t forget the continued damage to the economy and society this is doing. Many of us might not know anyone who has died of Covid much less had it. But we know of people who have been made redundant, bankrupt, have died from cancer or stroke or suicide, in an abusive relationship or have succumb to addiction.
What will it take for the sleeping masses to arise from their slumber and realise this is NEVER going to end by doing what their told? When they clapped for the NHS it was being turned into a Covid only service. When they put on masks they increased the fear, destroyed human connection and started believing in something as useful as a rabbit’s foot. When they took a test, just to see if they had it,they increased the cases of healthy people staying at home and forgetting what it was like to truly LIVE. When they stay at home they are telling the government we like being prisoners. What will wake them up?
Once they’re hit in the pocket or stomach – tax raids on their savings and/or pensions, their cosy WFH jobs outsourced to India or their chi-chi business forced to shut down due to lack of trade.
Or mummy or daddy dying from some illness that could have been cured if it was caught early.
Free arm tattoo when you are vaccinated.
He will not rest until will sell us all down the river! Lockdowns and vaxx forever!
Good point. People will only take this experimental vaccine if its seen as the way out. If you then say well we can’t set you free even though you have been part of the world’s biggest science experiment, what’s their incentive for having it? Most sensible people know they are not at risk of the virus. So the only reason for getting the jab would be that’s the price for my freedom. But now the fat pig dictator is not going to open up. Your summer holiday is cancelled, well now the muggles are thinking what’s the point? Yet again snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
Even if everyone takes the gene modification this year, it will need ‘updating’ next. Once the vax gets entered on the central data base and linked into a social credit system, we’ll be even less free. Compliance is living death.
It seems from comments on Sky News Australia (Youtube) articles re the imminent ”vaccine roll out” that there are a goodly amount of sceptics. there. And an overwhelming number of ”down votes” for any talking-up of the ”vaccine”.
Yes, he’d have ”blown it” but what would that mean? He’d make sure he’d keep the upper hand. He wouldn’t ”allow” a GE so that we could vote him out.
Rule One: Johnson lies!
“despite the successful vaccination programme that is expected to reduce hospital admissions and deaths to a fraction of their peak levels” – you led with this without so much as a murmur. Let me remind you there is no vaccination programme, just untested, potentially very dangerous gene therapy which could only explode death numbers and hospital admissions. Stop supporting their narrative Will!
And ”their peak levels” were for a very short period of time, and nearly all elderly/ill. Now that they’ve managed to get rid of all the ”dead wood” I’m not surprised if admissions turn out to be low.
Time for Boris to go. Originally lock downs where to flatten the curve and to stop the health service being overwhelmed. How much longer are we going to be abused like this by our government. With the reliability of PCR tests being in question (as they are over sensitive with no international standard agreed regarding testing procedure) we’re going to be locked down forever using this criteria. And what if we go above 1000 cases do we lock down again? This is total madness.
maybe they will lower the Ct and demand a complementary medical diagnosis. They won’t get below 1000 otherwise
I just said this on another comment but I heard on my radio this morning they plan to move to LFT. Which would make the transmissions disappear too.
Agreed. The only hope I have is that Sir Graham Brady could be in a position to go to him and say that, unless you lift the lockdown immediately, you are going to face a vote of confidence by MPs. Please please please Tory MPs, you can do that without him knowing who you are and escape his vicious retribution
You realise if Buffoon goes, Handjob will be favourite to take his place? (I’m being cynical, I don’t watch telly news or read the papers any more).
So having just taken the Lockdown Personality Test from the ATL article, I am happy to proudly announce that
I’M A REBEL.
In fairness it actually nailed my personality at this time quite accurately.
I’m a sceptic. No surprises there. To cope, I should read classical philosophy apparently. Hmmm.
What I am actually doing is running a lot and drinking too much.
Well, Johnson reads classical philosophy, I daresay, and it hasn’t done HIM much good, has it?
Same on all counts; although I’ve just decided to give up alcohol for Lent *gulp*.
good luck with that !
yep told me I was a sceptic too and to read classical philosophy. Don’t see how it is going to help much in the current climate where I am worried about a digital ID/ vax passport more than I am worried about getting covid.
It just told me what questions I had answered back to me
Yep – I wasn’t in the slightest bit surprised to find that I also came up as Rebel.
It kept kicking me out and going back to the start so I gave up. I know it’s only for fun but I and am sure many others consider themselves caring and sceptic. Surely these traits aren’t mutually exclusive?
You got your mama in a whirl…….
Me too. How do I insert the nose ring?
I’m also a rebel and very proud to be too. I thought the analysis about my personality was spot on.
Over the entrance to Auschwitz was a sign ‘Arbeit macht frei.’
It was a lie.
There was no exit except through the innumerable doors marked ‘death’.
After the war, they took the commandant of. Auschwitz and hanged him right next to that sign.
Vaccine macht frei.
Yeah.
How interesting it would be visit a parallel universe in which the Nazi’s prevailed.
Would Jews even be spoken about? How would their disappearance have been explained if they were?
It would be an insight into how society will deal with the memory of free(ish) humans later this century
Apparently Hitler wondered about this, but thought that nobody would care about it after a while:
you should read “Fatherland” by Robert Harris – it is precisely about what you have just wondered about.
From ATL, lockdown personality test concludes that I am a Rebel and advised me thus.
So people are behaving oddly because they are terrified.
They’ve been non-stop terrified for a year now. How that possible? It isn’t. Not for people. Not for anything even remotely human.
Annie, I agree. I think a lot of them have been driven over the brink into madness.
We had a bit of sun the other day here on the south coast. I was on an empty residential road and a woman walking towards me jumped into the road to avoid my unmasked (outdoors!) face. I said “it’s a beautiful day” and she looked at me as if I was trying to bewitch her.
I believe some of them have been driven into outright madness. Not surprising, considering what’s been thrown at people, especially those who watch tv.
Of course, mentally unbalanced people can be quite dangerous, especially if they feel threatened. I cross the road when one of the masked ones comes towards me since it could be one of the dangerous ones.
We live at the bottom of a hill. Opposite a park. We get lots of dog walkers up and down the road. As we were driving out yesterday some bloke just stepped into the road in front of me to avoid coming within six feet of a lady coming down the road. Luckily I was not going fast and managed to not knock him over. He then made the mistake of giving me a dirty look for using my horn.
I then gently reminded him that the risk of catching and dying of a virus while walking at five mph past another human being was a lot less that being fucking run over!! We seem to have gone backwards since December when you could walk round the park mask free and nobody would jump out your way. We seem to be back to not walking by one another again. I don’t watch TV, have they ramped this social distancing bullshit again?
Must be the new variant hogwash – the weird wall-facing thing is quite new and so contrived that they must have got it from somewhere like the news, ads or newspapers.
I read that as a new variant of hogwash, rather than virus.
Which it is.
I just moved from a somewhat more working class area to one that’s more middle class. Masks outside on the local high street went from an occasional sighting to almost 100%. Happily, I order almost everything online since I go into fits of hypervigilance if I’m surrounded by maskoids.
yep – apparently we will never be able to not social distance ever again [according to Bojo]
They are behaving oddly because they are weak and stupid.
I have only contempt for all but a few humans at this point.
Sounds a tad too conciliatory to the “terrified” to me……Typical psychobabble
2 things to take away from the first article:
John Lee has sold out with respect to the vaccines.
Johnson has now reached the pitiful level of out and out blackmailer*.
*He’s been doing it for while, I know (“be good and you can have Christmas, etc”), but this is now blatant. The message now is “take the vaccine, or this never ends!”
Even that isn’t the message. The vaccine doesn’t stop infections. None of them even claims to.
Indeed, Annie.
Yes, it’s so shamelessly clear now. Take the vac, take the app…..and then we’ve got you. Your liberty back, but on our terms!
But it’s not liberty, though!
I watched Jamie Cullen’s video; there was a piece on the Isle of Man, which is currently closed off to the rest of the human race. There was a moron describing what they had as “freedom”. I was screaming at the screen, “You’re on a fucking prison island, you moron! You’re in fucking Alcatraz!”
Same in NZ and Oz
i.e no liberty at all.
My take is that we all need to be Out on this, ie loud and proud that we won’t be having the Vax. I can understand why people might feel scared to openly pronounce they won’t be having it – but imo we do need to be “loud and proud” about it – to help give the courage to resist to those wavering. Anyway – one of my few satisfactions in this is going to be “Told you so – and I can prove it”. All the evidence will be there come The Reckoning at the end of all this to say “There – there’s the proof I was right against this from early on and I’m not telling lies when I say ‘OOOOH….I didn’t agree with it’ or ‘OOOOOOH – well I always had reservations’ “. There will be people saying “I agreed with you lot all along” when they didn’t at all – and we’ve been the ones shouting/protesting/generally making the effort to get Bloody Lockdown lifted – so others can take a running jump if they try and join the party late (after we’re proved right).
The abuser throws you ‘breadcrumbs’ to give you hope, but then the abuse resumes. Textbook stuff.
“Hopeful people are more easily controlled, but the volume must be managed. Too much hope leaves a person emboldened and resistant. Too little leaves them disabled and useless. But just the right amount of hope subjugates them. They cradle it like a dying ember, and they’ll do anything to keep the wind from extinguishing it…..”
They’ve got it about right for the majority of people, haven’t they?
That is the message.
But like all the other messages, it’s bullshit.
This NEVER ends.
Nadhim Zahawi, the Vaccines Minister, who has repeatedly assured us that “we” will not introduce a vaccine passport, has started to change his tune by pointing out that other countries may demand proof of vaccination and “we” will obviously cooperate, and by claiming that it is a matter for organisations if they wish to require proof of vaccination and the NHS will make it easy for people to have access to their vaccination records. I suspect Mr Zahawi thinks he is exceedingly clever and a highly skilled politician.
He is a thug, a bully, and a liar. Same thing, I suppose.
Zahawi is a scumbag, just like the rest of them.
Second richest MP.
Even by the standards of this shower, Zahawi looks shifty and untrustworthy, and an incorrigible liar. A nasty piece of work, I’ll warrant.
We must judge Johnson by the company he keeps.
G. Osborne said he was “impressive”. Must be another of his proteges.
Osborne has a great deal to answer for.
Zahawi is just the epitome of the predator class. Ruthless, unprincipled, deceitful, duplicitous, dishonest, selfish, arrogant and psychopathic.
An Alpha Predator. Evil Evil Evil Evil Evil
How’s that not one F or C word.
They don’t confront you, they surround you.
He is clever. He’s scammed most of the British population.
He’s Mr Yougov. How convenient.
From today’s YouGov poll (run by Zahawi)
if 59% think it is a good thing then we are done for
The ATL thought experiment (‘imagine that a you live in a village of 500 people”) amuses me because I DO live in a village of 500 people. And this is EXACTLY how I first thought about the pandemic.
i had imagined that some of us would get sick, and a few of the frail elderly might die. These are people I would expect to die within the next few years anyway. They are old and doddery and have carers. I based this on the data out of Wuhan. I was rather nonplussed by this. Old people have to die sometime.
What has actually happened is 2 neighbours caught it at Cheltenham last year, and were unwell. For a week or two. They are fine now. Nobody else has had it and all the doddery oldsters are still doddering about.
That’s because of the lockdown! Imagine if we hadn’t locked down they would be piling up in the street.
I know that your post is satire so I won’t downtick you😉
Hahaha. Of course.
Except that most of us haven’t been. Secret dinner parties, children playing out etc
We have a 500 person bubble. Still annoyed at pub being shut though.
Haha exactly how it should be done 500 person bubble sounds about right!
Yes they only look at those old folk that sadlidied but not at the majority that gladlydidn’tdie.
A big up to all the sceptics that are keeping their shit together,
im a failure and not that great a person and im letting you good people down because i am close to losing my grip on the thin thread of my life thAat has kept me going and im sorry i mean what is the fuckin point
Being on here is proof that you are a good, caring and thinking person
The point us to resist them! The point is to live! The point is that you are a living, breathing human being with a brain, and we need you!
Don’t give up. Stay with us.The who.ple rotten edifice will collapse and we will dance on the ruins.
Have a cup of tea. And stick with us, kid. You’re needed here.
It’s an effing mess, Prime sinister! I lost everything in the lockdown. My wheelchair accessible gym, time spend with my mom because of the travel ban, she died in the Summer, my already bad health, attending my dad’s cremation last Spring. Then there are the millions of dying kids in developing countries…I have no wisdom or advice just, try to do something good one thing a day.
A few weeks ago I ended up in emergency psychiatric care. It was my lowest point but at least, finally talked ‘face to face’ with professionals instead of Zoom (ugh). I derive strength from reading LS especially BTL since last April (this is my first post thanks to your comment) and Reddit/LockdownSkeptics.
I’ve lost friendships over this, live in the most draconian state after California. But it’s not the UK and I think of you guys. Best wishes, and please find help!
Stay strong Karin. So sorry to hear about your parents. This too shall pass but it won’t pass without a fight.
KBO Karin.
The truth will prevail in the end.
The point is that you are RIGHT, and right will prevail!
Stay with it – stay strong. We all have to devise different tactics to try and handle this and carry on fighting/carry on living. I know my own is to have an official Meltdown Day sometimes (say once a week). On that day – I get out the wine, eat what I please (regardless of calorie considerations), write in my journal (where I tell it EXACTLY as it is) and thoroughly agree with myself that I should not have to put up with the stupidity called Lockdown. Then I pick myself back up again the next day – and carry on fighting and waiting/waiting/waiting for my Normal life to resume.
imagine being able to limit it to only one day a week – way I feel at mo it is almost every day!!! but great suggestion – we all need to be kinder to ourselves as well as each other during this madness. Unfortunately my experience in my area is that it is every man for himself and people show zero consideration for others – I put that down to the de-humanisation of the social distancing
primesinister, you are not letting anyone down by feeling miserable and depressed – I think most of us here have been there off and on during this nightmare.
Please hold on, keep posting and get yourself some dopamine (https://dailysceptic.org/2021/02/11/latest-news-282/#comment-408962), it will help you feel better.
Take good care of your own needs, and remember we are here for you!
I think most, if not all, of us have been losing the grip at times.
Stick with it. One day sanity will prevail.
Sympathies my friend. My husband is in the blackest mood ever today, he read the news (I tell him not to) and says there will be no end to this. He is a strong, resolute person but has gone out for a run now to hammer out the anger and despair. I hope he comes back. What can we do?
don’t give up. it isn’t over til it’s over. good always triumphs over evil – it’s the ultimate law of the universe. stay around to see it/to help it on its way/to bear witness to evil – any one of those 3 is worth it.
You’re not the only one struggling, you know. I find myself slipping into hypervigilance, which leads me to search online for hours for escape routines – change countries, whatever. All I can do is ride it out and try to remember that the feeling did pass each of the other 158 times it’s happened in the last year.
Yesterday was bad. Today is a bit better. Find a small thing that gives you pleasure and do it. I ate three pieces of chocolate yesterday instead of my usual one.
we all knew this was going to be a “challenging year”. You are not a failure ‘cos you are on LS which shows you are not one of the blinkered populace. Get outside walk tall, and im sure you will get lots of ideas from the other contributors on her, oh and you have the best user name 🙂 I smile every time you post.
Agree with you. I swing between positivity and negativity, my mental health has suffered badly and its been an eyeopener to see who really cares and those who don’t.
The irony is that I’ve received more help and support from people here than from people I know and that’s saying something.
How are you a failure? The very fact you come on here and question the narrative means you aren’t. The sheep are the failures at living, at being human, at protecting liberty and other people. I think just about everyone on here has moments like you are feeling now. Please don’t give up and stay with us.
The point is you are precious. Life is precious. It should be celebrated every single day. Look around you, all these things are temporary, 100 years ago there were no jet engines, 200 years ago we were using horses as transport, 500 years ago only the rich had brick houses and 2000 years ago we were taken over by the Romans. 1 year ago we went into lockdown. 1 year from now we will look back and say well what the fuck was that all about? I have started exercising really hard and I have made it a trial to try and learn a new song on guitar every week. Trying my Sharrona at the moment, killer solo.
If you let your head drop they have won. They want you to be compliant, they want you broken and weak. Every day you should kick back and scream “I will not bow down to you, I will not go into your darkness, I am free, I am free, I am free” stay strong.
reply from my MP yesterday “I am lobbying the Government, along with my parliamentary colleagues Steve Baker and Mark Harper in the Covid Recovery Group, to begin easing lockdown now – with the majority of restrictions eased by May at the latest. There will be no justification for current restrictions once all over-50s have been offered a jab. Schools must be open to all pupils by 8 March. I am glad the Government continues to commit to this date. Reopening England’s schools on 8 March is a national priority that must be achieved. Whilst I am entirely supportive of the sterling work being undertaken to roll out the vaccine programme, as you know, I have consistently questioned some of the more anti-common sense decisions regarding lockdown as I see them. COVID is a serious disease and we must control it. However, just like COVID, lockdowns and restrictions cause immense social and health damage, and have a huge impact on people’s livelihoods. The vaccine gives us immunity from COVID, but it must also give us permanent immunity from COVID-related lockdowns and restrictions. There is no question in my mind that this lockdown must absolutely be the last. Ministers must… Read more »
Positive about vaccines which do not exist.
“The vaccine gives us immunity from COVID”
That bit is a lie!
But if the MPs think that it does is it wise to correct them?. We don’t want them to think that nothing but a permanent , vicious ,lockdown will “control” this scourge.
Yeah but ssshhhhh……at least they are ONLY looking at jabbing all over 50s!
Twazzocks 🤯
YOU CANNOT CONTROL A VIRUS!!!!
DELUSIONAL ARROGANCE PLUS!!!
Trying to control a virus, that is.
yes, I took strong issue with that but haven’t had back his latest response
It’s still a good reply by any standard: do you know all I got from my MP despite banging on the door?
“Sent on behalf of Bob Seely MBE MP
Dear Sir,
Thank you for your email. Bob is supportive of the MHRA and their view that the vaccinations currently in use are safe to be administered to the public.
Kind regards,
Mr Alex Fynney
Senior Caseworker, Office of Bob Seely MBE MP”
[Must be a ‘barrel-scraper’ eh?]
At least it’s a response.. mine stopped replying to emails a while ago from myself (and at least one other person I have spoken to anecdotally, locally). She does however have time to campaign for rejoining the EU, and has no qualms about raking in £75k in expenses.
A positive letter indeed with the exception of the Covid immunity thing. But maybe good to fight one fight at a time – first abolish the lockdown law, then fight the vaccine.
It might be worthwhile sending the letter from UK Medical Freedom Alliance with your reply, asking for an enquiry of the car home deaths after vaccines… which is happening all over Europe. Also worthwhile sending him the scientific facts that vaccine does not give you immunity… it will only give you milder symptoms and people will still catch the disease, they can still spread it for all we know and thus still test positive.
So how on earth would a vaccine passport even work? It is laughable and clearly designed to bolster another agenda.
Keep up the dialogue with your MP though. I have given up completely with mine. He is basically up Hancock’s arse with a torch each morning given his replies.
taking the Zoe app and modelling forward with an R=0.9 (the current value), we get below 1000 cases per day by 15th June
‘R’ has no meaning in science. It is an invention of modellers.
like temperature – it is an invention of statisticians but a useful one
False comparison Steve – see if you can work out why? Statistics 101 might help.
temperature is a variable in an equation that describes the probability distribution function of the energies of particles – it has no real existence outside a statisticians head. particle energies and velocities do.
R is similar – it is a way of describing rates of change – it is useful and that is why it is used widely – before this coronapanic and after – it will still be used
I think I see what you are saying. But temperature is not that hard to measure? There are some widely accepted standards.
For R, they just pull numbers out of their arses.
The equivalent would be me putting my hand on my child’s forehead and proclaiming “37.56C!” Rather than “hmmm feels a little bit warm maybe?”
There are lots of severe issues with data in this. I personally prefer to attack the data, its interpretation and the ridiculous policies that arise from it rather than attack broadly understood epidemiological theory. Humans have done rather well in controlling disease over the years – this coronapanic is entirely different. But I don’t think it means we can’t talk about R values, ‘cases’, deaths etc we just have to take a barrel of salt with it because it is much harder to measure than temperature.
when I say epidemiological theory I don’t mean the nonsense Ferguson pumps out
steve_w is correct. Temperature in the sense that most people understand it is a contrived and arbitrary human scale measurement. The Celsius scale is nothing more than an index of the freezing point and boiling point of one of the most abundant compounds on the planet under defined temperature and pressures. Hint water boils at a lower “temperature” with increasing altitude.
Well all scientific relationships were ‘invented’ by someone. In this case, for a large number of molecules there is an exact equivalence:
mean molecular kinetic energy = 3/2 kT,
where K is the Boltzmann constant and T is the Kelvin temperature.
its a mean – it has no more real existence than the mean height of people in a room. But like R, it can be useful if treated correctly
The difference is in the numbers. Quantity has a quality all its own. There might be 100 people in a large room, but there are something like 10 to the power 27 (a trillion trillion trillion) air molecules.
Yes, and it’s inferred from existing data, so can be above or below 1 as they wish.
R will ‘evolve’ into Q…and Q will be an evil variant of the P…..
Did I really read that Dr Lee proposed ‘we should trust the vaccines’ and ‘protect the NHS’.
Very disappointed by that.
Just read the article too. I feel like he is taking a conciliatory tone as his overriding concern has always been to end lockdown. From the point of view of a medical doctor, Lee has always said lockdown is unwarranted and has an enormous impact on other medical conditions.
So I feel like he is essentially saying, ok, you’ve had your vaccine. Open up now.
I can see your point, but he could equally have taken a neutral stance by just stating that now the at risk have been vaccinated there is no justification for LD, but to advocate we should ‘trust’ the vaccines implies the vaccines are beyond criticism and of little concern. Hearing this from someone who has always challenged the narrative will no doubt sway some of those that were on the fence towards the vaccine. It just seems so many initial sceptics, including LS site, bar Delingpole, are supportive of vaccinating a population with untrialled drugs.
I am not at all supportive of widespread vaccination. What we should do is let the super vulnerable, the gullible and scared vaccinate themselves and then the rest of us just get on like normal.
Being charitable, maybe he’s saying frightened people should trust the vaccine so that they are urged to return to normal life? BecUse it’s going to be hard for them to rejoin the world of the sane without a magic talisman.
Gene modifying drugs. Even if their purpose was benign, no one can predict medium to long term outcomes. But since the drugs are backed and promoted by a person with a self-confessed enthusiasm for euthanasia and depopulation by vaccination, they should be resolutely refused.
He also said your immune system ‘evolved’ over 600 mn years. No organism survives an ‘evolving’ complexity. Either you have it or you don’t. If you don’t have it, you die. As soon as I read that bullshit I knew that Dr Lee is about as trustworthy as Ferguson’s undergrad created 15 yr old application code. Bullshit all of it.
someone must have nobbled him with the promise of a gong if he changed his tune. I am very disappointed in him.
So this goes on for ever?
So furlough goes on for ever?
Shome mishtake, surely, Fishi Rishi?
Hindoo magic money maker Knickknack. His Hindoo Highness is from Golden Slacks. His great Hindooness is a millionaire. He could care less about public finances. He will turn furlough into UBI, and then take a run for Doris Nut Nut’s job.
I think it´s called comminism. Apparently it´s never been tried properly……
Communism?
The Gibralter thing is a red herring. The number of cases goes and and goes down. The number of deaths goes up and goes down two weeks later, exactly as we would expect. The vaccinations were obviously introduced too late to have any effect on the disease in real terms and so is entirely unconnected with the rate of cases or deaths.
Your logical inability is quite astounding. If you have ever had an animal put down,please tell me how long after the jab it was before they croaked? Discount frogs, please.
If it was just Gibraltar, you might have a point. There is a recurring pattern in that once a nation starts mass-vaccination the death rate sky-rockets. It happened in the UK in a way not seen in Italy, Spain, Germany or France (all of which are lagging way behind the UK in vaccinations). It happened in Israel but not in Palestine, where they were complaining about being denied enough access to vaccines. At some stage you have to stop and say “what is going on here?”. It can’t all be down to coincidence.
“what is going on here?”. It can’t all be down to coincidence.
Indeed.
You might want to look at the UAE as well…..
Lol. I see what you mean. Nothing to see here. It’s just another coincidence. We’re just bonkers and hysterical.
“There is a recurring pattern in that once a nation starts mass-vaccination the death rate sky-rockets. “
Yet you have absolutely no evidence that is the case. You are just as bonkers as the pro-mask lobby. Seeing precisely what you want to see in the same hysterical fashion.
Regrettably you are just as much part of the problem as the mask fanatics.Somebody running on emotion, not reason.
nobody runs solely on reason. not even you. that is not how the human brain works. if it did, we would be machines.
It’s part of the training.
ONS data is clear that deaths ‘from/with’ Covid in care homes rose dramatically (trebled) in January, after vaccinations had been introduced into care homes. There’s also anecdotal evidence of post-vax outbreaks in care homes and the whistleblower reported on UK Column, but I prefer to rely on the ONS stats. Something’s amiss’; of greater concern is that it’s unreported.
I’m not running on emotion at all. I’ve been keeping a close eye on the data and this is what I’m seeing. If you can come up with an alternative explanation then please suggest it instead of throwing around silly insults.
So we should just accept higher deaths now without questioning but when it was COOVID no one was allowed to die from anything else?
Nothing to see here……double standards at very least
Doing a great job at convincing me something is wrong, thanks
Exactly. It seems obvious what is happening. A very small number are being flat out killed by the vaccine reactions. However the big thing is that a significant number of people are getting fever and flu symptoms for a few days. When the very first people you are targeting are the most frail then it should not be a surprise that we see a sudden surge of deaths in the people that are frail enough for a few days of flu symptoms to kill them. To top it off, the ones that do just about survive it get thrown into a covid ward. The Gibraltar graph seems to fit this theory very well. The only shadow of doubt is in the gradual increase before vaccinations started.
Covidiot.
So an 85 yr old dies without the vaxx you the covidiot cult scream Covid.
I inject the same person with your poison which according to your cult, ensures that he will never die of anything, and suddenly 2 days later he is dead. Your cult screams old age.
Flock off.
“Flock off.”
Indeed!
I had the same initial reaction, but that sudden spike in deaths is very fishy. Looks to me about half and half vaccine deaths plus COVID deaths.
The Norwegians look to be the most transparent so far. Has any other country shown death rates? Does the US data show anything?
It’s a small area and they had a cluster outbreak amongst some vulnerable people. Occam’s Razor.
Unfortunately this comments section has been taken over by those with a bee in their bonnet.
A cluster outbreak of the very deadly Scam-19 …
I hope your right about Gibraltar my mother came from there and I’ve visited many times. As many people have pointed out these vaccine deaths are not just occurring there but all over the world. We should not forget that before the vaccine only ten in Gibraltar died of covid after the vaccine fifty died. I believe this would be equivalent of 6000 a day if Gibraltar had the same population as the UK. If that occurred no one would get vaccinated and we would be back to square one.
Unless the vulnerable had been shielded and herd immunity had been allowed for the remainder of the population then the vulnerable would be protected. They would still be susceptible to the normal illness that have always been there.
The situation has been caused by the failure to follow the correct path initially.
I think you should change your user name to
The sun is in line with Uranus.
After several months of hailing these vaccines as some kind of great moment of human ingenuity, with Matt Hancock himself describing them as “the cavalry” – the golden ticket out of this horrendous cycle of lockdowns, yet again the mask slips and we see these brutal, sociopathic monsters for what they really are.
They are control freaks of the worst possible nature. Abusers. Covid monomaniacs, who would see a million children take their own lives before they relieve a pound of pressure on the boots firmly planted on our throats.
THE GOVERNMENT CONTROLS THE CASE NUMBERS. It now doesn’t matter how many lemmings queue up for their poison. The tyrants will always make sure the ball is in their court, the wind is forever in their sails as we are hurtled towards a tracked and traced dystopian hell that resembles something from an Orwell novel.
The Dutch curfew has been deemed unlawful by the courts because thousands of people took to the streets and set things on fire. It’s ugly, but it works. Nobody is coming to rescue us, we can only save ourselves.
The sooner those who can yet be saved realise this, the better.
but they have all the tanks and all the guns. violence is a non-starter for our side.
Tanks and guns are just elaborate pieces of metal until you use them. It is not the ownership of weapons that is important , but the thought that a British Govt would shoot down thousands of its own people in defence of a policy intended to protect people from a form of flu.
You could say that the British Govt , in fairly recent years , has form in that respect : Bloody Sunday in Derry . But the fallout from that , still ongoing actually , is such that no sane govt would repeat it. The question is : is the PM and his advisors sane?
Peterloo massacre anyone? They’ll repeat if needed I’m sure, but the plan appears to be to get us all to kill ourselves so they don’t need to do any physical dirty work!
Where are the signs of sanity in the government? I see Desmond Swayne and very little else.
It’s an inconvenient truth, but violence works.
That’s why governments insist on having the monopoly.
Calvary more like followed by the potter’s field.
2020: protect the NHS
2021: protect the vaccine
Rinse and repeat ad infinitum.
2022: protect against the variants
2023: protect against anti-vaxxers who refuse the poison…
If we’re safe until 2023, I’ll take that as a win. Oh, and please don’t spread that “anti-vaxxer” thing. I’ve had plenty of vaccines in my life, starting with the polio one when I was a girl in the 60s.
202x: Protect Bill Gates.
The NHS comes in for a lot of criticism here on LS. This has been my recent experience. After going downhill for several days last week and failing to get anywhere on my GP Surgery website I sent an email outlining some symptoms. This was replied to with a generic message about using said website. To my surprise I then got a triage phone call asking for further details following which I was invited to the surgery that very afternoon. That resulted in a partial diagnosis with a revisit the following day for a blood test. The next working day my GP phoned to invite me back in for a follow up consultation, further tests extended his diagnosis. Immediate prescriptions led to the alleviation of painful symptoms and I am apparently in line for visits to hematology and x-ray with max wait of two weeks. 9 out of 10 thus far. Some observations. During three visits to the (10 Doctors) surgery I was the only person in the waiting area (10-20 mins wait per visit). All Medical staff wore the basic blue and white face nappy with only support staff using more fancy ones. The only other reference to Covid… Read more »
That’s encouraging.Even in the National Covid zService there must be some good corners!
That’s the people, real leaders. The NHS is the managers, complete tosspots, towropes or whatever other noun beginning with ‘t’ that you choose.
Karen, can I send you a private message?
You can but I’m not sure I’ll recieve it. I understand PMs go through the forums ?
Good point, no problem. I hope all goes well for you.
They’re the ones we never hear of – the ones who simply get on with it.
More power to them.
I have always been very critical of our local surgery after they locked the front gate last April. Only one visit since lockdown, for my flu jab, which was done on the steps outside…. But the other day totally out of the blue they rang and had made an appointment for may annual blood tests at the surgery so maybe there is life. Then they said their pharmacist would ring me to do the review of my medicines. They don’t have a pharmacy there so no idea who this ‘pharmacist’ will be and in any case I thought it was my GP who should be telling me what my pills should be.
As part of this I took my blood pressure this morning, sadly it is way up but I suspect there is a reason for that – damned lockdown!
I am pleased you got the tests you need so quickly, however part of me says of course it would all be quick due to the fact GP’s and the NHS hospitals are treating far fewer people generally. When has anyone ever gone to a GP when the waiting room is empty?
If the rhetoric “necessitating” lockdown now has shifted from 1) protect the NHS, to 2) lower the R rate, to 3) lower the mortality rate, to eventually 4) lower the numbers testing positive, then the answer is simple.
We need a campaign and a concerted push to stop these morons getting tested.
As has been the case almost since day 1, end the testing, end the “pandemic”.
Trouble is – ‘they’ could tell us any number. How could we know if ‘they’ are telling us the truth? How do WE check how many people are being tested, and where, and are they repeated tests, false positives, etc?
‘They’ have us over a barrel.
True.
But at the very least confronting work colleagues and friends who proudly tell you how many times a second they voluntarily get tested.
I don’t think most even know why they do. I get the feeling sometimes that it’s the most exciting thing that’s ever happened to them in their narrow little lives – to be a part of the great tragedy, and they’re the ones helping to save the world. Pathetic, isn’t it?
Only if you stay at home – get out, shout and shake it all about!
Oh, I do! With bells on!
Perhaps we should picket testing centres….. but, then again, they’re always empty anyway, so it would be a bit pointless.
Save the picketing for any places that try and do Vax Discrimination against us when they open up again and let the vaxxed in as per normal. If they lock us out – then we need to picket etc etc/whatever it takes to get them to allow us our rightful place inside the cinema/theatre/concert/medical facilities/etc.
Good idea!
That was the changing goalposts last year and they’re running the same play again this year.
They’re in a backroom chuckling, amazed at how stupid the public is.
I’ll raise you one winkie.
When I was a kid I was the only one who had a winkie, all the other lads (don’t think any were girls…) had willys.
I always felt special.
Lol.
winkie wanky woo derek and clive live
I’d forgotten about them!
Lol.
Please support the #UnlockInn campaign https://www.countryside-alliance.org/our-work/e-lobbies/please-support-the-unlockinn-campaign Pubs up and down the country form an integral part of the community, especially in rural areas. They provide a large number of jobs and have big networks of other businesses that rely on them being open for trade, from butchers to breweries. In many parts of the country, pubs can be one of the only hubs available to those suffering from loneliness. A recent survey carried out by the Countryside Alliance, which was covered in the Sunday Express, revealed the shocking reality our pub trade faces. Only 34 percent of those publicans who responded said they can hold out being shut until Summer 2021. Losing pubs would be devastating and irreversible. This has been a very difficult time for so many people. As the rollout of the vaccination continues to be as successful as it has been, we hope that you can join us in requesting your MP to ask the government to do the following: 1. Allow pubs to serve alcohol with takeaways as soon as possible. This is currently not allowed. 2. Scrap the ‘substantial meal’ requirement, when pubs open again. 3. If pubs are forced to remain closed into the Summer… Read more »
I don’t claim to be psychic but I could see from last year where this was leading. They hate the working class and the working class love their local pubs.
teetotal and avid single Whitty leading the charge here. What a fun person he must be.
Single and no children. Explains a lot. He’s doesn’t feel like he’s missing out on anything because he’d never leave the house in a normal year, and he doesn’t have young kids at home 24/7 driving him mad.
Your post is just a fact free plug for Covid vaccines, dressed up as special pleading and concern for pubs. I can go along with the pub bit, but you can stick the zero liability and DNA altering hardly tested vaccines in the hazardous waste, where they truly belong.
‘Pubs up and down the country form an integral part of the community, especially in rural areas.’
And that is exactly why they’ve been under attack for the last 15/20 years, and under full-blown assault now, under the premise they’re dangerous in a ‘pandemic’.
Meanwhile, millionaire footballers continue their lives almost unaltered, playing their game, hugging each other, shaking hands, etc. Revolting wealthy breakfast show presenters and their staff continue to work indoors without masks – Amanda Holden is reported as being “devastated” that she broke the dictatorial rules (not for being caught, of course) when she made long journey to visit her parents…
I don’t mind anyone breaking the idiotic rules, as I’ve done it myself from day one. What are you really suggesting?
What is it you’re implying I’m implying, Rowan? I think I’m very clear with my stance on this madness.
When I complain about the lecturing elites flouting the ‘dictatorial rules’ I’m highlighting the lack of consistency with the implementation of this tyranny while these hypocrites continue to enjoy far more freedom than the rest of us.
But hey, don’t let me hold you back from defending these morons.
I’m a virtue signaller, yet I got caught. Does that make me as bad as those Covidiots on LS?
I did this yesterday, and actually got a reply this morning. Same old tropes, same old spin, same old nonsense from my MP, same old, same old, but at least he replied, I suppose.
The Countryside Alliance is full of inbreds and yokels who want to keep foxhunting and any other blood ‘ sport’ going .They have been quiet on many aspects of so called country life till now.
When I looked at the Lockdown Personality test I nearly gave up when I got to the logic/maths questions, but it would be interesting to ask Uberfuhrer Johnson and his band of deranged megalomaniacs those three questions. Do They have any appreciation of maths, statistics and logic? Down to 1000 dodgy +ve test results per day, we’ll all be sweeping forever; They wept like anything to see Such quantities of sand: “If this were only cleared away,” They said, “it would be grand!” “If seven maids with seven mops Swept it for half a year. Do you suppose,” the Walrus said, “That they could get it clear?” “I doubt it,” said the Carpenter, And shed a bitter tear. Interestingly the area I live in, Torridge N.Devon is just about at the equivalent of that rate and we have no Covid test centre, if they dish out all these postal test kits I suspect our rate will shoot up again! The Government are a bunch of low grade middle managers, strong on micro-management but with no abilities of leadership, no vision and no confident inspiration. We lack anyone who can step back and take a realistic view of the position and… Read more »
Perhaps that someone is already there, pulling the strings of these low grade people, and things are unfolding as planned.
It certainly seems to have stopped being about the ‘danger’ of the virus and is more about the ”vaccine”.
The main driver of lockdown as always been the maths and those failed scientists called epidemiologists. While their produce graphs which show infections going up in a straight line in reality the line is more of a curve. As any immunlogist will tell you ill people become well and immune so just as there’s pressure on the line to go up there’s pressure for it to go down. This was noticed in the 19th century and is called ” Fars law” and was noticed in China when covid began.
When I see questions like that my first thought is : what’s the trick here? I therefore restrain from the kneejerk quick and obvious answer and think more carefully. People should be looking for the trick too (or rather questioning facile assumptions) with Covid related conclusions. Most will not though because it came from the Government or Sage/NERVTAG so must be gospel. Gospel In, Garbage Out.
One test children don’t have: exams.
Chaos to replace Boris as PM!
There are some very gifted people out there who have a knack of summing up things cogently and concisely: ‘Early on, partly out of a lack of dependable information, politicians and public health experts panicked. They did not act rationally, waiting for more reliable data, they simply panicked and took the most draconian steps imaginable. The public health experts relished their moment in the sun and could not resist the temptation to advocate extreme measures that failed to consider overall public health or welfare. Leaders mimicked each other and used what others were doing as an excuse for their own actions. When it became apparent that there had been an unnecessary over-reaction, both politicians and public health experts began twisting data and science to try to justify their behaviour. Instead of acknowledging an excessive response, they doubled down, and spread greater fear. The traditional and social media were only too happy to aid in this process. This all could have been avoided by elimination or serious limitation of emergency powers. Forcing a truly democratic decision-making process on response measures would have resulted in a more rational response. If we are going to avoid this happening again, we must strip all governments of… Read more »
The piece misses out too many of the murderous actions of western “governments”, for instance::
Removing HCQ from shelves in FEBRARY (France, Australia).
“Stay at Home” until you are sick enough to need ICU.
Decanting sick, frail, infected people from hospitals and into care homes where there was no medical help.
No positive actions on vitamins, zinc or building immunity.
Rejecting out of hand advice from tens of thousands of doctors.
Yes, I’m sorry but anyone who doesn’t realise this is a coup by Big Pharma in league and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation in league with central bankers to bring about a reset is either dishonest or a complete fucking moron.
We have to start with Agenda 21/30.
It did strike me as curious too that several US states did the same as the UK and decanted their elderly into care homes without and sort of protection or care for incumbant residents. The US were acting on the advice of a Gates Foundation funded organisation.
Source of info: https://dossier.substack.com/p/how-the-gates-foundation-seeded-americas?r=6a3x3&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&utm_source=twitter
What are the chances that the UK got the same advice from a similar source?
That article links to another article called “COVID-19 and the Political Economy of Mass Hysteria” (https://www.mdpi.com/1660-4601/18/4/1376/htm).
The full text is available at the link.
I have just been reading Philip Johnston’s article in this mornings Telegraph. A curious confection to be sure. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/02/16/vaccine-passports-will-difficult-resist-whether-like-not/ He begins by contemplating his little vaccination card and asking: Are they our passports to a pint, our tickets back to the theatre, our get out of jail free cards? Should they be? This has now become the key debate as efforts are made to return to some semblance of normality after almost a year of on-off lockdowns, tiered restrictions and bizarre, pettifogging rules such as no sitting on a park bench outdoors. Mr Johnston then takes us through the looking glass: Many of us are instinctively opposed to a state-run regime whereby proof of health or identity can be demanded before lawful activity can be engaged upon. As Jonathan Sumption, writing on this page yesterday, said it is hardly in the traditions of our liberal democracy, so painstakingly constructed and so easily dismantled…I agree with that, but he and I must accept that millions don’t. They will never concede that Covid is anything other than an almost unprecedented killer that has to be suppressed, squashed or eliminated until it no longer poses a threat, almost uniquely among diseases that have… Read more »
No idea who downticked you, Alex. I thought you ripped his article apart brilliantly.
Maybe it was the dirty language at the end 😀
Nah! You get extra ticks for that. 😜
Nut Nuts – Bozo would love to read our remarks but it would be too distressing for his libertarian feelings….. besides he might need to go back to the Telegraph in the hopefully not too distant future
I was going to downtick merely because Alex is just above me in the ratings but, I looked in the mirror and thought “I couldn’t live with myself” and since no-one else wants to, I’d better kiss and make up. Just rubbed the lipstick off the glass!
Excellent analysis. I have been very disappointed in Philip Johnston who is clearly banging the drum for vaccine passports. Maybe I’m going to have to ditch the Telegraph. (Planet Normal is good though)
Telegraph has been bought. It’s a rag now, having taken the 30 pieces of silver and sold its soul. I’ll wager it will never recover its reputation.
And they know it – note the number of articles where comments aren’t allowed.
The Gates foundation gave the Telegrph a ”donation’ of some 5 million quid just a couple of years ago. Pure philanthropy of course.
I stopped reading the Telegraph at the end of March when it became consumed with Covid fear porn that bore no relationship to the reality I was observing as an out and about key worker.
It’s got noticeably worse the last 2-3 months. As I say, I’m sure they’ve been got at, or paid.
I can´t remember which of the social media billionaires it was and I really don´t have the time to check it out but I read an article a few weeks ago that one of them has decided to subsidise newspapers as they are otherwise all likely to go under. Since the British press is being kept alive by government advertising this would make sense, keeping the propaganda machine rolling. I somehow don´t think they would be subsudising a right – wing rag or allowing any independent or “subversive” articles.
Agree with you.
Regarding The Telegraph, it is possible to guess which articles won’t allow comments before you actually read the article; in most cases anyway!
I tend to agree with Peter Hitchens when he says that the standard of journalism generally isn’t what it once was.
Standards of journalism like many other things have sunk so low that there’s no point reading newspapers and magazines – half the time they’re simply press releases and advertorials masquerading as journalism.
Great post. As to the article, thing I hate most is the way taking a vaccine is equated with not smoking in a public building.
Yeah I know, it’s a ridiculous argument!
First they came for the smokers and Tim Martin loved it.
Personally I am not an anti-vaxxer, however for this particular vaccine there is no need to give it to people under 60 years old and to people who have had the disease.
As the vaccine only uses a single type of the spike protein (I think this is correct), natural immunity may actually be better anyway.
I would not like my daughter to be vaccinated. She has had it and developed antibodies. No need for vaccination!
Never, ever, EVER begin with ‘I am not an anti-vaxxer’. State your FUCKING CASE but do not begin with that as you will be hedged in.
And don’t you get it? Unless you protest, your daughter ( adult or child ) will HAVE TO TAKE THIS GENE THERAPY!
Such things as this: https://www.idonotcomply.org/events-1/worldwide-day-of-protest
No need to be this crude.
I have vaccinated animals my whole life with good effects. We managed to reduce incidence levels of a lot of lethal infections (for instance parvo in dogs) through vaccination.
Dogs are over vaccinated though, there is no need for annual vaccines with the exception of lepto. The vaccine companies advise every 3 years not annually and yet many vets will happily over vaccinate each year and see the problems caused.
Using vaccines sensibly and when fully tested is responsible, not vaccinating anything that moves with experimental ones and most importantly when they offer less protection than ones own immune system.
The most worrying part of that article is the defeatist tone.
He might have said:
Well, if most Germans wanted to get rid of Jews, then what’s the point of arguing with them, might as well give in and hope that this way they’ll stop hating Jews. I mean, if we’ve practically. exterminated the north American Indians and nobody has really complained, then surely we’ve accepted the principle that you can get rid of people that are in your way, haven’t we?
FOR FUCK SAKE, GROW BALLS YOU FUCKING TELEGRAPH PIECE OF SHIT WRITER!!!
Best comment below that article: If I get vaccinated: 1.- Can I stop wearing the mask? Government Response – No 2.- Can they reopen restaurants, pubs, bars etc and everyone work normally? Government Response – No 3.- Will I be resistant to covid? Government Response – Maybe, but we don’t know exactly, it probably won’t stop you getting it 4.- At least I won’t be contagious to others anymore? Government Response – No, you can still pass it on, possibly, nobody knows. 5.- If we vaccinate all children, will school resume normally? Government Response – No 6.- If I am vaccinated, can I stop social distancing? Government Response – No 7.- If I am vaccinated, can I stop disinfecting my hands? Government Response – No 8.- If I vaccinate myself and my grandfather, can we hug each other? Government Response – No 9.- Will cinemas, theaters and stadiums be reopened thanks to vaccines? Government Response – No 10.- Will the vaccinated be able to gather? Government Response – No 11.- What is the real benefit of vaccination? Government Response – The virus won’t kill you. 12.- Are you sure it won’t kill me? Government Response – No 13.- If statistically… Read more »
Incredible isn’t it?
Wouldn’t a vaccine resistant strain be more likely in the vaccinated than in the unvaccinated?
Rather like pesticide-resistant insects or weeds are more likely to breed where a particular pesticide has been used. There certainly many cases of that in agriculture. Or the antibiotic-resistant bacteria breeding on farms where low dose antibiotics have been used to fatten animals.
I would happily return to a fully normal life, without restrictions, and without having the vaccine by taking personal responsibility for my own health which I have done throughout this plandemic – vitamin D, vitamin K2, quercetin, olive leaf extract, regular exercise, healthy diet. And whats more the former should still be able to protect me against any “variants” which might emerge. But big pharma wouldn’t make any money and big tech wouldn’t benefit if I didn’t have a vaxx passport – in a nutshell you have it – the government is in bed with big tech and big pharma – it is all about the money
If you want an example of how “model” based policy works go look at Texas and other states currently basking in sub-zero temperatures because their renewable grid had no real backup and doesn’t work in that weather.
Yet all we hear, especially from Boris, is how great they are.
Reality is a harsh mistress.
My only thought is how do we bring reality to the politicians?
Spot on.
And you haven’t even mentioned the chemicals in the de-icing fluid being sprayed all over the ground…..
We live in an age of vacuous air headed celebrities with no actual qualities and in line with the times we voted just such a person to be our ‘dear leader’. The current bunch will not do it, they are blown around by every wind of change and every piece of dodgy ludicrous modelling, they have no vision and no leadership abilities, they will not improve, they must go.
See Victor Davis Hanson ‘Two States of California’ in which he explains that such decisions are made in the narrow coastal strip of LA and San Francisco where temperatures are a steady 70 degrees so he never needs to use either heating or air conditioning in his University office.
Back home on the farm near interior Fresno Wallmart is populated by Latinos who cannot afford to cool their own homes.
The same sort of people who decided it was fine to put the working classes in tower blocks where many still languish after 5 decades of public policy.
Society of idiots. Government said Vaxx macht frei. Now they are saying no cases macht frei. Cases from fake tests, don’t mean you die. They don’t mean a damn thing. Sheeple bleat for longer LDs.
ATL still very little on deaths from the Vaxx – a limp wristed puffer on Gilbraltar murdering people with the vaxx and repeating the gov’t nonsense that they died of old age. Get a brain.
If you are 85 and die it is Covid.
If you are 85 take the vaxx and die it is old age.
Still nothing ATL on the hundreds of dead in the UK, and the thousands injured by the Vaxx.
Why?
Sadly this website has been compromised
LDS is pro Vaxx is the main reason.
I would say fanatically pro Vaxx.
Will and Toby don’t understand slippery slopes. I had the same arguments when Queer marriage raised its ugly head. Now look at the ‘sex ed’ in schools, full on gender fascism and anti-science.
Once you accede to the vaxx and their ‘mandatory passports’, you are screwed. You lose all rights to your own body.
Yes, it’s as full of anti-vax nutters as Reddit is full of pro-mask nutters.
And that drives away reasonable people. You can’t reason with nutters.
If you don’t like it here, setup your own site.
Can one be generally pro-vax but anti covid vax?
Or does it have to be black or white?
There’s this:
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/958616/COVID-19_mRNA_Pfizer-_BioNTech_Vaccine_Analysis_Print.pdf
no,if you are 85 take the vaxx and die it is covid too. everyone dies of covid now.
… and think about all those dying of “Long Covid”?
and the long covid people condemned to a living death