It’s Roadmap Day
Today is the big day. First in the House of Commons then later in a Downing Street Press Conference, Boris is expected to unveil the long-awaited roadmap, which will detail the route out of lockdown. The Daily Mail has something of a preview.
The first steps to freedom from lockdown will prioritise reopening schools and reuniting families, Boris Johnson said last night.
In two weeks, on March 8th, you will be able to meet one friend or family member in the park for a coffee or a picnic.
On the same date, all pupils will return to the classroom as part of the first of four steps towards getting the country back on its feet.
Unveiling his long-awaited roadmap today, the Prime Minister will announce that on March 29th, outdoor gatherings of either six people or two households will be allowed – enabling families and friend groups to meet properly for the first time in months.
That date will also see the reopening of tennis courts and golf courses and the return of grassroots football.
But in a blow to many families, they will not be allowed to take holidays over the Easter weekend. And shops, hairdressers and pubs are all likely to remain closed until mid-April at the earliest.
Still a fair amount of time left to spend watching Netflix then. Why so slow? Katy Balls has some analysis in the Spectator. It seems that being criticised in the media and elsewhere for coming out of the spring and autumn lockdown too quickly – and for being prematurely optimistic that each lockdown would be the last – has made Boris ultra-cautious. He wants to avoid any more U-turns if he possibly can.
When Boris Johnson stands at the despatch box on Monday afternoon to unveil his roadmap for ending the lockdown, those hoping for a big bang moment in ending restrictions will be left disappointed. Instead, the Prime Minister will announce a very gradual easing of the lockdown stretching to the summer – with Johnson reserving the right to make it even slower should the data go the wrong way. Having been stung by previous promises to avoid further lockdowns, the roadmap will be more cautious than members of the Conservative party’s Covid Recovery Group would like…
When it comes to the timescale, should deaths and hospitalisations plummet the Prime Minister is still keen to have a period of a few weeks between each easing to see the effect it has on the data. As a result, even if things appear to be going better than expected, it could be a long wait for a full reopening. There will be four tests for easing the lockdown at each stage: 1. Vaccine rollout going as planned 2. The vaccine is driving down deaths and hospitalisations in the way expected 3. The infection rate is one that doesn’t risk the NHS being overwhelmed 4. New variants do not change the risk assessment.
So one bit of good news: the number of infections doesn’t appear to be one of the tests, provided there’s no risk of the NHS being overwhelmed. Does this mean the Zero Covid fanatics have been shown the door? We can but hope.
Worth reading Katy’s piece in full.
The Telegraph has interviewed some of the people most badly affected by the lockdown and they are in no doubt that it must end ASAP.
Lifting lockdown can’t come soon enough for many across the country. While the tragic cost of the pandemic in terms of lives lost has frequently been foregrounded, the cost of the ongoing restrictions has been harder to quantify and often overlooked.
Business owners, mental health and education experts, families, sport coaches and care home managers are now pleading with the Prime Minister to recognise this toll and allow safe reopening as soon as possible.
Michael Caines, chef/patron of Lympstone Manor, Devon
I don’t think it’s extreme, nor is it scaremongering, to say that the hospitality industry is teetering on the edge.
My flagship is Lympstone Manor, a contemporary hotel within an historic country manor house in East Devon, with a vineyard and Michelin-starred restaurant. I’m all set to open another, in Exmouth, which is ready to go. I’m just waiting for the nod from the Government. So much depends on what measures the Prime Minister unveils in his roadmap on Monday…
Sarah Lloyd, 40, mother-of-two from in Farnborough, Hampshire
I have hit absolute burnout. My husband works full-time from home and I run my own business, Indigo Soul PR, while we simultaneously try to homeschool our two daughters, aged seven and five.
It has affected all four of us badly. My two girls are just so pent up and angry all the time, and at one point were even refusing to go out for a walk because they were so upset. They usually get on so well, but at the moment it’s constant tantrums and fights because they just feel so pent up. I really worry about the long-term impact on their mental health…
Sarah Gillow, owner, Galio jewellers, George Street, St Albans
Sarah Gillow opened her high street jeweller in the midst of a recession in 1992. Neither that nor the ups and downs of the intervening years could have prepared her for the brutality of lockdowns, however.
“It’s hit us really hard,” she said, having had to cut staff and watch her sales slide over the latest year…
Business was good between June and November, but lockdown number three came as a major blow. “I never dreamt in a million years that the Government was going to shut us down just before Christmas,” she said.
Worth reading in full.
Come on Boris. The vaccine roll out is going better than anyone could have expected. The weather is good. Foot to the floor!
Stop Press: The Telegraph has a detailed overview of when the different stages of the roadmap are likely to occur.
Derek Winton Responds to Neil Ferguson

Yesterday, we published Professor Neil Ferguson’s reply to a reader who sent him Derek Winton’s critique of the Imperial College modelling. Derek sent us this response.
I’m not sure of the protocol for responding to an email from a third party to another third party but given that the initial article was published on Lockdown Sceptics perhaps it’s appropriate for the follow up to be published there too.
I should start by saying I don’t suspect any sinister intent on the part of Professor Ferguson or believe he’s part of a conspiracy. As someone with a background in the hard sciences who also got their start in the heyday of British ‘bedroom coders’ I even feel a certain amount of kinship.
To me this is a governance issue. Decisions on pandemic response strategies affect millions of lives and in my (hopefully not unreasonable) opinion should be based on the very highest quality of information and subject to the highest level of scrutiny.
In my article I made eight substantive claims, summarised below:
- The Imperial model was influential in the decision to pursue a lockdown strategy.
- The research for ‘Report 9’ was not peer reviewed.
- The model was not documented.
- Professor Ferguson apparently has no formal training in computer modelling, medicine or epidemiology.
- Projections of death tolls from the same team in previous epidemics had been out by several orders of magnitude.
- The code was of poor quality from a legibility stand point.
- The model is an attempt to model a highly complex (and therefore highly sensitive) system but omits at least one key variable.
- Projections based on the Imperial model for Sweden were out by a factor of seven and therefore the model was not fit for purpose.
Leaving aside the link to The Conspiracy Theory Handbook, Professor Ferguson does not appear to dispute any of these points. Instead, he points out that other models made equivalent predictions and the report I cite for predictions on Sweden did not in fact use the Imperial model. It’s tempting to say at this point that the prosecution rests but of course we should allow Professor Ferguson the chance to rebut any of the above points.
Professor Ferguson does raise some points though that raise even more questions. Taking them in turn:
1) The Imperial model was influential in the decision to pursue a lockdown strategy
Other Models
Professor Ferguson points out that several other models, upon which the Government relied “all agreed”.
The models written by LSHTM, Warwick University and Institut Pasteur Paris all agreed with “the” Imperial model. All used different code bases.
And in fact, there was never “one” Imperial model, but several. We now have 4 different COVID models, again which all agree.
Where are the code bases, designs, documentation and assumptions for these models? Given that the Imperial model was considered the gold standard, couldn’t we be forgiven for having concerns about these models too?
What exactly is meant by the term ‘agree’? Do they predict the same death tolls in all of the scenarios modelled in Report 9? If not, by how much do they vary?
The ‘reality’
Professor Ferguson also states that:
Government responses… were driven by the reality that any disease which generates epidemics which double every 3-4 days and for which over 2% of those infected require hospitalisation will overwhelm any health system that exists.”
[Emphasis mine]
This is what philosophers would call question begging, i.e., assuming what we are trying to prove. Of course if we assume the epidemic doubles every 3-4 days indefinitely, any health service would be overwhelmed. The critical question for the Government was to determine whether the epidemic would continue to double every 3-4 days and for how long, and it was this question that the computer modellers purported to answer.
8) Projections based on the Imperial model for Sweden were out by a factor of seven
Professor Ferguson claims that “no-one ran the Imperial model for Sweden (other than us)”. Here he is absolutely correct. Indeed, it is impossible for anyone outside of the Imperial team to run the exact model (used to generate Report 9) as the original source code was never released.
It’s surely reasonable to ask then: If the team did indeed model Sweden, what did they find?
We have created a separate page for Derek Winton’s response and stuck it on the right-hand side beneath Prof Ferguson’s response filed under “How Reliable is the Modelling?”
Other Readers’ Responses
A number of Lockdown Sceptics readers were intrigued by Professor Ferguson’s reply, and indeed by his inclusion of a link to The Conspiracy Theory Handbook. One reader, who has been published here before, even went so far as to send us a line by line analysis of his email.
I was interested to see Professor Neil Ferguson’s reply to one of your readers. I was surprised he had replied, but no less surprised that anyone had bothered to write to him.
Now, I think it’s a bit unfair to write to someone and then publish that person’s reply, especially if it hadn’t been made clear the reply would be published. However, it has been, and I suppose anyone in public life would have to be naïve to believe that anything they say is immune to being disseminated more widely.
I thought it would be interesting therefore to analyse the reply.
“I presume you sent me this because you feel upset, angry, that no-one is listening, want to hurt me or change my mind. Or all of the above.“
Here we have an assumption of motive. The writer, who is a woman, is depicted as having become emotional (‘angry, upset’), seeing herself as a frustrated victim (‘no-one is listening’), aggressive (‘want to hurt me’) and manipulative (‘want… to change my mind’). Therefore, the original email is dismissed as having come from someone who is behaving irrationally and antagonistically. This is not an especially surprising opening gambit because it is designed immediately to create the impression that the original writer has lost control in some way and therefore by implication that Professor Ferguson is in contrast a rational being who is still in control of himself.
What is odd is that the email he’s responding to just asked him whether he’d seen Derek Winton’s article, but Professor Ferguson, at this point, makes no mention of that. He has responded initially only by seeking to diminish the sender. However, he has only just started.
“I and my colleagues and friends (John Edmunds, Jeremy Farrar, Marc Lipsitch, Christian Drosten, Patrick Vallance, Chris Whitty,…) get so many of these sort of emails that we barely notice anymore. Most get dumped into junk mail folders automatically nowadays.“
This is an interesting paragraph. Firstly, it involves telling the sender that he, Professor Ferguson, is a member of a strong gang consisting of “colleagues and friends”. This means that the sender is attacking the gang, and here he reinforces the idea that the sender is talking rubbish by referring to the way that such emails normally get “dumped into junk folders”. The implication is therefore that even email client algorithms are able to detect such emails as automatically worthless.
Secondly, the listing of gang members is designed to be intimidating, reminding the writer that his assault is against a powerful cabal of highly-qualified people who by being “friends’”will therefore act together to protect each other. Such is their status that they don’t even “notice [these emails] any more”. This is an important way of maximizing the distance between the writer and Professor Ferguson.
We thought this fisking of Ferguson’s email was so good we’ve stuck it in the right-hand menu, where you can read it in full.
Other readers got in touch with additional matters they’d like to see put to Professor Ferguson’s comments. One, for example, flagged up the question of seasonality, which as Nottingham University Student Glen Bishop recently wrote in Lockdown Sceptics, was not considered by the Imperial Model.
He has four models and they all agree, as do various other academic models. Well, colour me convinced. I would however bet a meal for four at the Fat Duck that they all assume NPIs work and that none of them model either seasonality or partial pre-existing immunity.
Our reader also pointed out that Ferguson…
wrote about “epidemics that double every 3-4 days”. I’m not aware of any time-point where SARS-CoV2 was doubling that fast, whether in positive tests, hospitalisations or deaths.
In any event, if the epidemic had doubled every 3.5 days and starting with one case, then everyone in the UK would be infected in three months (and the entire world population around 24 days later). Since we probably started with at least 1,000 imported cases that falls to 56 days for the UK population to succumb in its entirety.
Another reader got in touch with a straightforward point about the inaccuracy of the modelling.
I suggest that someone email Mr. Ferguson and ask if he can thus explain why all of the models presented on October 31st failed to match what really happened, as shown in the graph presented and update daily in the Spectator.

Neil Ferguson’s Original Correspondent Responds – and He Responds Again!
The reader who originally wrote to Prof Ferguson has herself replied to his email – and he, in turn, replied to her, and she then replied to that.
Here is their exchange in full.
Dear Professor Ferguson,
I was surprised to get a reply to my email – but frankly amazed to read the content of the link you sent me. Is that really the best you can do? Do you respond to other scientists’ theories by shutting them down by yelling ‘conspiracy theorist’? Instead of engaging with the central tenet of the argument, that your/Imperial/LSHTM/Warwick University/Institut Pasteur Paris model might be wrong, you call me a conspiracy theorist. That is very odd and suggests to me it’s you that have developed a very warped sense of reality and that maybe you do not understand what is going on in people’s lives. We look at ONS/NHS data every day on cases/hospitalisations/deaths, not wild theories.
So let me speak from personal experience. I have 21 year-old twins, studying at Bristol (Economics) and Montpellier (Year abroad) respectively. Their lives are relatively rubbish at the moment, no enjoyment of the university life for which my daughter at Bristol is paying £18K a year. My son is living under a curfew. But I accept, not a disaster. Their friend killed himself while incarcerated as a student last year. He was in despair.
Just this week we heard of the suicide of a lovely man my husband met at the gym, a Tunisian. He worked as a waiter, so I guess he had financial worries.
We help a Syrian Refugee family in the town. Two children, aged six and 12. In the summer we realised that all the progress they had made at their excellent primary school was slipping away and that the 12 year-old was losing his English (they speak Arabic at home) so we started doing lessons at our house for the mum and the two children. We realised that the boy was virtually illiterate. His parents had been so terrorised by the fear porn churned out by the government (acting on your/Imperial/LSHTM/Warwick University/Institut Pasteur Paris models) that they would not send the children back to school even though they were ‘allowed’, being in Years 1 and 6. He then started at the local High school, has got into fights, been bullied and I fear for his future. His life chances have been damaged by having his education denied to him by this government relying on the models mentioned above. Of course our weekly lessons had to stop. Online learning started. The family did not have a laptop. The Government agencies that get paid handsomely to do so could not provide a laptop, so we set up a charity to recycle laptops to deprived children.
We’ve helped him and 178 other children in our nice leafy middle-class Stratford-on-Avon. I wonder what it’s like in Middlesborough, Fleetwood, Great Yarmouth? Multiply my young Syrian friend’s experience by literally millions and you start to approach the truth (not a conspiracy theory!) of the world that you have been key in ushering in (and of course LSHTM, Warwick University and the Institut Pasteur Paris). So many young people’s lives will be poorer, in so many ways. My point is this is real world stuff, not theory (either your theory or a conspiracy theory).
Me and my husband both have widowed mothers. His mum is 94 – one of the last years of her life has been lived in almost total isolation. She has 14 grandchildren who are (should read, were) very involved in her life, regularly travelling 2.5 hours+ to visit her in Suffolk. All stopped. She’s living life as a husk. Both her and my mother’s mobility have seriously declined, because they do not go out any more, due to lockdown (not the virus). My mum is I’d say typical of a lot of 87 year-olds. She’s reasonably intelligent, used to be a teacher. She lives alone in the house she’s lived in for the last 63 years. It is completely in the ‘back of beyond’. The house sits atop a sea wall and the nearest land mass looking west is Ireland. The Irish Sea hits the house at high tide. She is miles from anywhere and has no part of community life. She isn’t online and gets all her news from the BBC (refusing a newspaper in case “it’s on it”– the virus). The house is for sale as it’s a mad place for an 87 year-old to live in but she won’t allow any viewings – you can guess why. Her mobility is also much reduced and she is desperately lonely. I haven’t seen her in over a year. This isn’t a conspiracy theory. It’s my mum’s life. She lives like this because of the messaging from the Government, acting as a result of modelling by you/Imperial/LSHTM/Warwick University/Institut Pasteur Paris. The aim of the Government was to terrify the population. I do hope you of all people do not think that this is a conspiracy theory. I’ve read the relevant minutes from Behavioural Insights Team (BIT) on March 22nd 2020 which says among other things:
A substantial number of people still do not feel sufficiently personally threatened
The perceived level of personal threat needs to be increased among those who are complacent using hard-hitting emotional messaging
Use media to increase sense of personal threat
Perhaps you think the 47 signatories to this petition are also conspiracy theorists? The BIT feeds into SAGE – so count yourself as part of all this – and together they have set out to terrorise us – and you’ve done such a brilliant job that people like my mum (who has had her first vaccine) is unlikely ever to resume normal life again. Her house won’t sell and we’ll have the same horrendous problems trying to get carers for her as we did for my dad four years ago – except that unlike him, he had mum, she’ll be alone. Just telling you what real life looks like.
Do you get it? You might live a nice comfortable life as an academic. I too want for nothing (apart from normality). I am sufficiently well off to shield my three children from the coming, shall we call them, difficulties. It’s the ‘left behind’, the marginalised, the poor, the lonely elderly, the millions upon millions of dirt poor people in the developing world that keeps me awake at night. So yes, I’m angry. But you call me the conspiracy theorist! Do you not see reports like this: 270 million marching towards starvation (perhaps they too are infected with conspiracy theories?). This isn’t the virus that’s caused this, it’s lockdowns. First World lockdowns have a terrible impact on the the Third/Developing world – I don’t think that’s in contention. Surely you can see that? Even if you didn’t foresee it as a consequence.
Or this in the Lancet: 94 million children at risk of not getting their measles vaccine (perhaps the Lancet is in on the conspiracy?)
Maybe if you, Whitty, Valance, Drosten, Farrar and Edmunds are all merrily putting communications in your junk folder you really are totally unaware of what is happening in the real world? Pause: think: what if they are right? What if only half of what I say is right? I thought scientists were supposed to welcome their theories being challenged? I thought that’s how they are tested. You describe me as being “sucked into” an “alternate reality” – and that is precisely my beef – you are the one living in a land of modelled theories – I am the one asking you to look at my reality – the ‘on the ground Real World’ data. What has happened in countries which didn’t/couldn’t lock down? Yes, look at Sweden, though it obviously pains you do to do so. How to explain its death rate? Or Texas? Or Brazil? Or Belarus? How is that a conspiracy? Is the FT in on the conspiracy? Worldometers? Perhaps the health reporting agencies are in on it too!

I might not be an epidemiologist but it’s fairly obvious to me that your model (and that of Imperial/LSHTM/Warwick University/Institut Pasteur Paris) is out by several orders of magnitude and the fact that you resort to calling people who disagree with it “conspiracy theorists” only serves to illustrate how far down the rabbit hole you have fallen. Oh, and what is wrong in pointing out that you have made the self-same error with Swine Flu, Bird Flu, Foot and Mouth? Or do you dispute those figures when you say I’m quoting the “same old misinformation”? Are all those reporting your past predictions v the actuality also in on the conspiracy?
I loathe this Government and its key players in this, the worst mistake the world has ever made. You – I would say that you are obviously a decent human being and I wonder if you do not see that you are going to be hung out to dry by those chancers running this operation. Just look at their record – the failed Test and Trace, the corruption, the care home deaths, the infection rate in hospitals – you have hitched your star to the worst Government we have ever had but unfortunately it will forever be your name attached to ‘The Science’ that drove them. If you can’t see that then you are not as clever as we all were led to believe. You and Imperial/LSHTM/Warwick University/Institut Pasteur Paris have made the biggest mistake of all time and in my view the sooner you accept it and try and proffer some sort of explanation the better. The truth might be able to be suppressed in our society now so bereft of free speech, but it will come out – starting in other countries.
I find it unfathomable that you/Imperial/LSHTM/Warwick University/Institut Pasteur Paris were listened to, the Pandemic Preparedness Plan thrown away and we embarked on lockdowns, with the rest of the world following. Perhaps you could do some good at this late stage by trying to get the mass-testing/False Positive Rate sorted out (by following the WHO’s guidelines, for instance) otherwise we are never going to get out of this mess. My husband drew this up – from Government data.

Sorry for the long email. The conclusion I’ve reached that it’s you that is living in some parallel universe if you think that I am the conspiracy theorist. The world lies in tatters because of your/Imperial/LSHTM/Warwick University/Institut Pasteur Paris theory.
If you’ve got this far, thanks for reading.
XXXX
Surprisingly, Neil Ferguson replied.
Dear XXXX
I would start by asking whether you really think I and my colleagues are unaware of the social and economic consequences of societal restrictions? Every life lost is a tragedy, whatever the cause. And I absolutely agree that this pandemic – and the measures adopted – have hit the poorest hardest.
But I wonder what you think motivates me and my (many hundreds of) fellow scientists who have been working on this pandemic for over a year? It certainly isn’t publicity or a desire to impose draconian rules on society. Nor do I have any love of lockdown restrictions myself, personally or ideologically. I don’t know anyone who does. Rather, we are trying to learn as much as possible about the epidemiology of this virus and how best to limit its health impacts.
The judgement call on the balance between compulsory measures and voluntary recommendations is a political one, but the effectiveness of each is likely culturally specific. Sweden made one set of choices, Denmark and Norway another. The result is that Sweden has had fewer restrictions overall, but has had 3-4x the per capita death toll of its neighbours. Our death toll is higher still not because we over-reacted, but because we introduced measures too late last March, and then repeated the mistake last autumn. And because of factors which were just bad luck – the level of seeding last February and the new variant last November.
As for the UK, what are you really suggesting the Government should have done back in December in response to the new variant and the overwhelming levels of hospital demand seen in London and elsewhere? Let people continue to go about their normal business as thousands died at home or on hospital corridors, as is happening in Mexico?
And to reassure you, we track the pandemic globally. And have a significant research programme comparing how different countries have responded. I am a bit surprised you point to Brazil as a success story though. And if you highlight Belarus, why not China?
I am also aware that there is a continuum between scepticism and outright conspiracy theory craziness. But some of the “facts” you and the lockdown sceptics throw out are tending towards the latter category. Remember the claims that there would be no second wave and that we were just experiencing a “casedemic”?
False positive rates are not a major issue at present. We are aware they will need to be accounted for more in future though. Also, while every suicide is tragic, there is no evidence that the suicide rate has increased in the last year. I am actually much more worried about all the cancer diagnoses and treatments which were postponed in the last few months due to Covid-related NHS demand.
I certainly agree there are many lessons to be learned from this pandemic – including regarding test and trace (especially early on) and care homes. I do not see myself as a Government cheerleader. Indeed, one of the depressing aspects of the discourse around this pandemic is the politicisation of science.
Best,
Neil
Our reader then replied to Prof Ferguson.
Dear Neil,
Thank you for your considered response.
I suspect you epidemiologists are told that there will be economic and other consequences of the lockdowns but I, and many others, think you have got the balance wrong. The precautionary principle has overtaken acceptable risk. I was quite taken aback by your link to the conspiracy theory website, which does make me worry that reasonable suggestions are being rebuffed by you and people like you as “crazy conspiracy theories”. I hope you would concede that I have made some valid points to you about the outcomes of lockdowns.
You asked in your first reply what would I have done, dealing with a disease that would see 2% in hospital. Nowhere in the world have cases continued to grow “exponentially”, regardless of the level of NPIs imposed. My point is (and I rely on real world data to support it) that you and your colleagues have concentrated on the 2% to the enormous disbenefit of the other 98% and society in general. We might argue what the IFR is but whether it’s 10 in a 1,000 or two in a 1,000, the BBC and government ministers have focused too much on the (let’s settle for four in 1,000) fatalities rather than 996 recoveries. The result is a terrorised population, lacking the ability to get the risks into perspective and the very real long term threat that people will never get back to normal for fear of flu or other seasonal illnesses. We can’t all live forever.
How can you argue against the fact that other countries do illuminate what could happen if a different approach to NPIs were taken? That NPIs (or lack thereof) made very little difference to Covid health outcomes and that the disease didn’t grow exponentially in those countries, such as Vietnam, India and Japan? Are you suggesting all the data I’ve been looking at – Euromomo, the FT, Worldometers – are somehow presenting false information? How does that make me and other sceptics (not deniers, obviously!) conspiracy theorists? It does rather suggest an over sensitivity on your part.
Yes, I overlooked the cancers/other missed health treatments (so many other horrors to mention). A year down the line, do you not consider that the cure is going to be worse than the disease, in cancer/missed treatments alone, quite apart from the other societal/economic/libertarian damage
By the way, which ‘fact’ in my email makes you think I am on the side of conspiracy theory craziness? I think that we should have lived with a greater degree of risk and that in fact you have opened a Pandora’s Box of fear and risk aversion which is going to be a constant plague. Though with a trashed economy, I’m not sure how it’s going to be paid for, if we are to have annual lockdowns. I think that we should have dealt with it differently, by following the Pandemic Preparedness Plan, by shielding the vulnerable (think: Great Barrington Declaration). It might have seemed an impossible task but it is nothing compared to what we have done. We’ll never agree that the NPIs delivered a step change in outcome – but as I said, those who disagree with you can point to countries which didn’t use them/used them lightly and observe that the death rates were much the same as those who did lock down. I guess my point is that if your (and all the other institutions you mention) model were to be tested against these countries, your modelled response would be very far apart from what actually happened. Is that calling it wrong? Or just out by several factors.
We’ve infantilised the population, created an enormous health crisis and trashed the economy. We’ve turned a once-in-40-years health crisis into a cataclysmic health/economic/political/societal disaster. I agree I don’t know what part your input played in these decisions, but I know that you are so frequently on our airwaves some people think you were pretty instrumental.
But thank you for your time in engaging with me.
Best wishes
XXXX
COVID-19 UK Strategy: Have We Got It Wrong and at What Cost?

Today we’re publishing an original essay by Sarah Williamson BSc Dip ION (Dist.), a nutritional therapist with a degree in economics. Now that nearly a year has passed since the country adopted the strategy described at the time as “three weeks to flatten the curve”, Sarah investigates why we did what we did, the key factors that truly explain the peak in cases that we saw in Spring 2020, and crucially whether lockdowns actually stop or slow the infection (Spoiler alert: not really). Finally, she takes a look at the cost.
Coronavirus, a year ago, seemed like something peculiar to Wuhan in China – Oh! How we might long for those days. Since then, like most countries across the world, the UK has pursued a strategy that began with “three weeks to flatten the curve” and has stretched out to restrictions for the best part of a year?
The aim of the UK strategy was to postpone COVID-19 deaths until an effective vaccine became available and to reduce the likelihood of the NHS becoming overwhelmed, allowing surgeries and treatments to continue. The mantra has been “Save lives; protect the NHS”. The real question now is did we save lives and protect the NHS? The question we need to answer is not are the hospitals busy, but did our strategy help reduce hospitalisations and deaths?
Our aim should be saving the most lives, not just COVID-19-positive lives and reducing NHS admissions.
What did the WHO guidelines for a pandemic recommend and why did we do something else?
In October 2019, the WHO guidelines for a respiratory pandemic suggested the following – regular hand washing, respiratory etiquette (i.e. don’t cough or sneeze on people), face masks for symptomatic people, regular cleaning of surfaces, open windows and doors and isolate the sick.
Contact tracing, once the disease has taken hold, was not recommended. The quarantine of exposed individuals was not advised. Border closures were not recommended. School closures were advised only under extreme circumstances and only after careful consideration of the consequences for the wider community. Lockdown of healthy individuals was not mentioned.
So where did the idea come from? Did we import the idea from the Chinese, who exported pictures of a ghostlike Wuhan? Was it this, coupled with the fear generated by the press stories of a ‘killer virus’ spreading uncontrolled throughout the world? No longer in far off China, but now here, in Europe. With reports of deaths in all age groups – no-one was safe. The ‘three weeks of restrictions to flatten the curve’ seemed at least reasonable to most, whilst hospitals geared up.
Who did it affect and why did we have such a peak in spring 2020?
SARS-CoV-2 is recognised as a seasonal virus, like many other corona viruses responsible for the common cold. In the UK in the spring the virus spread rapidly killing the vulnerable, particularly those in care homes, causing a highly unusual spike in deaths.
Notably the viral transmission rate, from the moment we started charting it, appears to have already been decelerating (this was highlighted by Nobel prize winner Sir Michael Levitt). This is a mathematical proof, one that is easy to reproduce, for example plotting the difference in the natural logarithm of the weekly fatal infections in London.
A good summary of the sceptics’ case. Very much worth reading in full.
Postcard from Bali

We have a new addition to our collection of postcards from around the world to add to the growing number on the right-hand side. We originally called this “Around the World in 80 Lockdowns” but at this rate we’ll end up with more than 80 postcards. This one comes to us from Georgie Day, a digital nomad who is now “stuck” in Bali. The Covid world has intruded somewhat on Indonesia’s Paradise Island – it’s brought masks, curfews and widespread temperature checks – and yet Bali still seems like a very nice place to be.
Despite this global pandemic, widespread anxiety and fear, I do feel out here that my life has become incredibly uncomplicated and very simple and I’m not sure if it’s the Bali Effect. My mental load feels exceedingly stripped back I seem to have found clarity and direction in the stillness of allowing myself to not be stressed, pushing, doing, thinking.
The Bali lifestyle can be frustrating at times. But the ‘expat’ community, to date largely comprised of ‘digital nomads’ – a new term referring to the nomadic (non-locals) with digital occupations (jobs/work/income that relies almost entirely on functioning wi-fi and a laptop) – maintain the buzz of a semi-Western ‘societal norm’ in this eclectic fusion of creative, tropical paradise Neverland. The traditional Balinese culture sings through in the beautiful acts of faithful devotion, frequent ceremonies at the religious temples, daily offerings to the spirits, respectful dress and appropriate uniform. However, the beautiful third-world nature during this time can sometimes miss the mark, as in order to dodge a hefty monetary fine, we can do push-ups or sing a song if caught by the Banjar (local mafia/police) driving around without a mask on.
I’m still not sure what to make of my current reality. Despite needing to wear a mask, sanitise hands and temperature check at the entrance of every establishment, to have access to the amazing world created for transient Bali holiday-makers here in this tourist town, with no traffic, queues, and at discounted rates and daily food deals as businesses battle to maintain their customer flow off the remaining Westerners of Bali. Currently, lockdown laws also enforce a 9pm (just moved from 8pm) curfew, where everything must close, hence the early to bed, early rise routine (yes, happy hours now just start at 2pm!).
I have to often pinch myself, as Bali right now really is a scene in itself. Only here could I be sitting in a Swedish inspired and owned cafe sipping an almond Matcha latte whilst cows roam the streets and the neighbouring plot of land, or driving my motorbike across the island to a New Moon ceremony after shooting for a bikini label on the beach all day. Where I get my need-to-know news updates from Instagram profiles and Tinder is obsolete if you have an Amo Spa or Body Factory membership.
I must admit it continues to surprise me that despite all the creative talent residing here currently (photographers, videographers, designers, branding and marketing creatives, models), and all the #content available, that there has not yet been a Netflix Originals reality series created on The Life of a Digital Nomad in Bali during COVID-19. (Any takers? I’ll hook you up!)
Worth reading in full.
Round Up
- “End outside sport ban, top scientist urges Johnson as all adults set for jab by July” – The Guardian reports the comments of Professor Mark Woolhouse who says there’s no need to forbid outdoor sport for children and a small numbers of adults
- “So much for social distancing! Crowds flock to parks and beauty spots as Britain basks in a balmy 60F temperatures on hottest day of the year so far” – MailOnline reports on further indications that people are beginning to tire of the lockdown
- “There is no roadmap that can take us back to the way things used to be” – A return to the normal of 2019 is not on the cards, says Nick Timothy in the Telegraph
- “Vaccination offers us a road out of lockdown. Let’s take it” – Writing for the Spectator, Dr Raghib Ali argues that the extraordinary success of the vaccination programme means that Boris can now temper his caution with optimism and provide a clear path out of lockdown
- “We must resist the powerful voices arguing for Zero Covid” – Vaccines will make the virus no more lethal than flu, so why sacrifice freedom and prosperity in a doomed attempt to eliminate it completely? A powerful argument by Professor Robert Dingwall in yesterday’s Mail on Sunday
- “What about a ‘third wave’” – The Swiss Doctor considers the possibility of a third coronavirus wave in March 2021. He reckons it’s entirely possible
- “Expect flu to surge next winter, warn experts” – Some scientific experts are warning that the world may face a dramatic resurgence or flu next year, due to falling immunity levels, the Telegraph reports
- “Fears brain-swelling Nipah virus with up to 75% death rate ‘may become next pandemic’” – The Mirror reports that the WHO has identified the deadly Nipah disease as one of 16 pathogens that need to be researched due to their potential to spark a pandemic
- “Christian group fined £10k for Bulwell car park meet” – A BBC item reporting on the Nottingham church that was fined after meeting in a pub car park. As an aside, the ‘guidance‘ on how to make places of worship Covid safe is voluminous and depressing
- “The case for lockdown is built on intellectual dishonesty” – Another fine essay for the Conservative Woman, this one by Mark Ellse
- “Covid madness: students, jabs and jobs – The Week in Review” – The Bournbrook podcast takes a look back at the week gone by
- “Two coronavirus variants have merged – here’s what you need to know” – The New Scientist reports that the UK variant has met the Californian, and formed a hybrid
- “It’s Not Clear That We Actually Need Human Challenge Trials for COVID-19, But the UK Is Moving Ahead With Them Anyway” – Time raises an eyebrow at another example of the UK leading the world
- “The Zero Covid movement: Cult dressed as science” – After lockdowns and mask mandates comes Zero Covid. Jenin Younes takes a closer at this approach to the containment of disease and those advocating it for the AIER blog
- “Insight from my mum on freedom” – Ethan Yang on the AIER blog makes a plea, stemming from his heritage, for all readers to stand for freedom
Theme Tunes Suggested by Readers
Eighteen today: “Unhappy Anniversary” by Vitamin C, “Follow the Yellow Brick Road” by Judy Garland, “Into The Light” by Mariana Bell, “Plan B” by Kevin Rowland and Dexy’s Midnight Runners, “I Can Hardly Stand It” by the Cramps, “Take Me Home Country Roads” by Toots and the Maytals, “Hit The Road Jack” by Ray Charles, “Bewitched, Bothered, and Bewildered” by Ella Fitzgerald, “I Wanna Rule The World” by 10cc, “Wastelands” by Suede, “Bad Day” by R.E.M, “In A Rut” by the Ruts, “Hole in My Life” by the Police, “Strange World” by Iron Maiden, “2+2=5” by Radiohead, “Everyday Is A Winding Road” by Sheryl Crow and “The Final Countdown” by Europe.
Love in the Time of Covid

We have created some Lockdown Sceptics Forums, including a dating forum called “Love in a Covid Climate” that has attracted a bit of attention. We have a team of moderators in place to remove spam and deal with the trolls, but sometimes it takes a little while so please bear with us. You have to register to use the Forums as well as post comments below the line, but that should just be a one-time thing. Any problems, email Lockdown Sceptics here.
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Woke Gobbledegook

We’ve decided to create a permanent slot down here for woke gobbledegook. Today, we bring you a recent paper in the British Dental Journal which seeks to address racial inequalities in dental education. How should we do that? By decolonising the dental curriculum, obviously.
Like other healthcare professions, dentistry has a historical legacy of being conceptualised as a ‘white’ profession. Despite a growing population of students in higher education including medicine and dentistry, there are stark ethnic disparities in UK academic employment and approximately 76% of academic faculty and staff members identified as white, 9% as Asian and 2% as Black. This is also reflected in the low proportion of minority ethnic dental academics in senior posts in UK dental schools.
Ethnic disparities in turn may influence the power relations and academic hierarchies in dental schools and pose an impediment to proportional representation of minority ethnic staff and students in institutional strategy and decision-making processes. Data from medical schools also highlight that students tend to accept that career progression may be dependent on their capacity to tolerate intimidation and they may not feel confident in questioning the underlying power relations and rules of engagement…
Decolonisation of dental curricula needs to be considered in a psychosocial context. Racial inequalities in dental education have a negative impact on the educational experiences of students from minority ethnic groups and may contribute to poor educational experiences and attainment gaps, and pose barriers to career progression. Lack of representation of minority ethnic groups in dental curricula can also translate into disparities in patient care for minority ethnic groups, with far-reaching implications for their health and wellbeing. If dental schools are to make meaningful progress on decolonisation of curricula, it would require: a systematic review of the existing governance structure; appropriate representation and empowerment of minority ethnic staff and students in existing committee memberships; and treating decolonisation as a strategic priority
Decolonisation of the dental curricula is also fundamental to improve the cultural competence of dental graduates and warrants a review of curriculum content and delivery, provision of dental care in community settings and promotion of reflective practices…
Get your teeth into it here.
Stop Press: The Wall Street Journal has an an interview with Professor John Staddon who, following a brush with anti-racism and anti-bias training, is speaking out against woke dogma in American universities. “When we lower our standards to pretend we know what we don’t know, we diminish the work and misinform society,” he says.
Stop Press 2: If you thought being a vegan was sufficient to win you plenty of brownie points with the woke left, think again. You may be suffering from “white veganism“, which is only one step away from being a white supremacist.
“Mask Exempt” Lanyards
We’ve created a one-stop shop down here for people who want to obtain a “Mask Exempt” lanyard/card – because wearing a mask causes them “severe distress”, for instance. You can print out and laminate a fairly standard one for free here and the Government has instructions on how to download an official “Mask Exempt” notice to put on your phone here. And if you feel obliged to wear a mask but want to signal your disapproval of having to do so, you can get a “sexy world” mask with the Swedish flag on it here.
A reader has started a website that contains some useful guidance about how you can claim legal exemption. Another reader has created an Android app which displays “I am exempt from wearing a face mask” on your phone. Only 99p.
If you’re a shop owner and you want to let your customers know you will not be insisting on face masks or asking them what their reasons for exemption are, you can download a friendly sign to stick in your window here.
And here’s an excellent piece about the ineffectiveness of masks by a Roger W. Koops, who has a doctorate in organic chemistry. See also the Swiss Doctor’s thorough review of the scientific evidence here and Prof Carl Heneghan and Dr Tom Jefferson’s Spectator article about the Danish mask study here.
Stop Press: The South Wales Argus reports that those with mask exemptions are experiencing increasing amounts of discrimination.
Stop Press 2: Dr Fauci has confirmed that it may be necessary for Americans to wear masks in 2022, WYMT news reports.
Washington (CNN) Dr. Anthony Fauci said Sunday that it’s “possible” Americans will still need to wear masks in 2022 to protect against the coronavirus, even as the U.S. may reach “a significant degree of normality” by the end of this year.
Asked by CNN’s Dana Bash on State of the Union whether he thinks Americans will still need to wear masks next year, Fauci replied: “You know, I think it is possible that that’s the case and, again, it really depends on what you mean by normality.”
The comments from Fauci come as the US COVID-19 death toll approaches 500,000 and the country nears a full year in its fight against the virus. And though the US is now steadily rolling out vaccines to fight the pandemic, the nation’s top infectious disease expert underscored the importance of mitigation measures to fight the aggressive virus and its emerging variants as many Americans express pandemic fatigue.
Fauci told Bash that while he can’t predict when the US might return to operating as it did before the pandemic took hold, he thinks that by the end of this year “we’re going to have a significant degree of normality beyond the terrible burden that all of us have been through over the last year”.
The Great Barrington Declaration

The Great Barrington Declaration, a petition started by Professor Martin Kulldorff, Professor Sunetra Gupta and Professor Jay Bhattacharya calling for a strategy of “Focused Protection” (protect the elderly and the vulnerable and let everyone else get on with life), was launched in October and the lockdown zealots have been doing their best to discredit it ever since. If you googled it a week after launch, the top hits were three smear pieces from the Guardian, including: “Herd immunity letter signed by fake experts including ‘Dr Johnny Bananas’.” (Freddie Sayers at UnHerd warned us about this the day before it appeared.) On the bright side, Google UK has stopped shadow banning it, so the actual Declaration now tops the search results – and Toby’s Spectator piece about the attempt to suppress it is among the top hits – although discussion of it has been censored by Reddit. In February, Facebook deleted the GBD’s page because it “goes against our community standards”. The reason the zealots hate it, of course, is that it gives the lie to their claim that “the science” only supports their strategy. These three scientists are every bit as eminent – more eminent – than the pro-lockdown fanatics so expect no let up in the attacks. (Wikipedia has also done a smear job.)
You can find it here. Please sign it. Now over three quarters of a million signatures.
Update: The authors of the GBD have expanded the FAQs to deal with some of the arguments and smears that have been made against their proposal. Worth reading in full.
Update 2: Many of the signatories of the Great Barrington Declaration are involved with new UK anti-lockdown campaign Recovery. Find out more and join here.
Update 3: You can watch Sunetra Gupta set out the case for “Focused Protection” here and Jay Bhattacharya make it here.
Update 4: The three GBD authors plus Prof Carl Heneghan of CEBM have launched a new website collateralglobal.org, “a global repository for research into the collateral effects of the COVID-19 lockdown measures”. Follow Collateral Global on Twitter here. Sign up to the newsletter here.
Judicial Reviews Against the Government

There are now so many legal cases being brought against the Government and its ministers we thought we’d include them all in one place down here.
The Simon Dolan case has now reached the end of the road. The current lead case is the Robin Tilbrook case which challenges whether the Lockdown Regulations are constitutional, although that case, too, has been refused permission to proceed. There’s still one more thing that can be tried. You can read about that and contribute here.
The GoodLawProject and three MPs – Debbie Abrahams, Caroline Lucas and Layla Moran – brought a Judicial Review against Matt Hancock for failing to publish details of lucrative contracts awarded by his department and it was upheld. The Court ruled Hancock had acted unlawfully.
Then there’s John’s Campaign which is focused specifically on care homes. Find out more about that here.
There’s the GoodLawProject and Runnymede Trust’s Judicial Review of the Government’s award of lucrative PPE contracts to various private companies. You can find out more about that here and contribute to the crowdfunder here.
Scottish Church leaders from a range of Christian denominations have launched legal action, supported by the Christian Legal Centre against the Scottish Government’s attempt to close churches in Scotland for the first time since the the Stuart kings in the 17th century. The church leaders emphasised it is a disproportionate step, and one which has serious implications for freedom of religion.” Further information available here.
There’s the class action lawsuit being brought by Dr Reiner Fuellmich and his team in various countries against “the manufacturers and sellers of the defective product, PCR tests”. Dr Fuellmich explains the lawsuit in this video. Dr Fuellmich has also served cease and desist papers on Professor Christian Drosten, co-author of the Corman-Drosten paper which was the first and WHO-recommended PCR protocol for detection of SARS-CoV-2. That paper, which was pivotal to the roll out of mass PCR testing, was submitted to the journal Eurosurveillance on January 21st and accepted following peer review on January 22nd. The paper has been critically reviewed here by Pieter Borger and colleagues, who also submitted a retraction request, which was rejected in February.
And last but not least there was the Free Speech Union‘s challenge to Ofcom over its ‘coronavirus guidance’. A High Court judge refused permission for the FSU’s judicial review on December 9th and the FSU has decided not to appeal the decision because Ofcom has conceded most of the points it was making. Check here for details.
Samaritans

If you are struggling to cope, please call Samaritans for free on 116 123 (UK and ROI), email jo@samaritans.org or visit the Samaritans website to find details of your nearest branch. Samaritans is available round the clock, every single day of the year, providing a safe place for anyone struggling to cope, whoever they are, however they feel, whatever life has done to them.
Shameless Begging Bit
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And Finally…
Vaccine sceptics will enjoy this – “mRNA” by our favourite band Media Bear. Worth a watch. Some of the lyrics cut to the quick. And all sung to the tune of “YMCA” by the Village People.









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Lockdown kills
https://dailyexpose.co.uk/2021/02/21/irrefutable-evidence-lockdown-deaths-are-labelled-covid-19/
The powers that be quite like us locked up. We cannot congregate and therefore protest. We are kept off the roads, and out of pubs and clubs. We aren’t flying off en masse on holiday crime has dropped, ie we are existing not living and the political class love it.
Regardless of what the tyrant in No. 10 thinks I will do what I want when I want and with whom I want.
Apparently knifings in London have increased, another example of lockdown stress perhaps.
On a lighter note, along part of our urban riverside where there are several cafes and restaurants is an area occupied by a dozen or so combined tables/benches all of which were being used by 3 or 4 people last time the sun was out.
Seems many people are already doing what they want with whom they want.
Doesn’t surprise me especially as Sadiq Khan is more bothered about statues in London rather than the problems that have increased under his watch.
As much as I would like him kicked out of office I fear it will never happen. The political system is so corrupt having a muslim mayor shows our diversity credentials which are all important to the ruling classes.
Surely David Kurten qualifies?
Yep, perhaps if he changed his name to Khan
Presumably the knifers were properly masked, otherwise I am sure Britain’s Finest would have them banged to rights, good and proper.
I would suggest that going out with the intention of stabbing someone is one of the few sensible reasons for wearing a mask.
Over the weekend It was good to hear people out in their gardens and meet others taking the air, and the laughter of children was oh so welcome too! So much has been stolen from us I can never forget nor forgive. I hate this government more than I can possibly say.
Private Eye (not as good as it used to be) in the latest issue described stabbing as “the new hobby on the block”.
At Xmas the news was all about more younger patients going into hospital with covid compared to the first wave. This was because it was decided, sorry captain Tom, all those over 85 who were considered as unlikely to live simply be given palliative care. This is why deaths shot up then even though more younger patients were in hospital. We were warned on shows like the Big Question where Lord Sumption tried to explain the nhs valued lives on age. But nobody listened criticizing him for saying the nhs valued lives on age. We have a similar situation with lockdown every day we hear on the news how people are struggling while also hearing most people support lockdown. Now you can’t have it both ways, you either support lockdown and the consequences or you oppose lockdown simple as. To me lockdown as not saved lives only prolonged deaths the pandemic and created mutant strains. Why ?
Will UK kids be forced to wear masks? I remember seeing an article a while back that said they won’t, but maybe that has changed.
The child abuse has been perpetrated on school kids here since September. No reason to think UK kids will be spared, though I hope they are. Homeschooling and learning pods are on the rise here and I would have gone that route if my kids were younger. No way would I have sent them to school in masks.
Everywhere except in their own classroom, isn’t it? Certainly the rule in Guantanamo Wales.
It could be the concession the unions extract for ‘safety’ reasons. No science behind it of course. But I will be glad my kids get back to normal-ish education. They are going loopy at home.
IF we get through this EVERY union leader who pressurised government to put kids in masks needs to be PUT ON TRIAL FOR CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY!
PERIOD!
I want NO EXCUSES on this forum.
I am not disagreeing with what you say but union leaders could not have put kids in masks without the bulk of their members being willing to ‘just follow orders’.
That is not entirely true or fair. Union leaderships appear to have been entirely co-opted on this. They are not basing their position on the opinion of members. They claim to speak for members, but they are interested only in gathering evidence of support for their own predetermined approach.
Members have no real voice. Beyond signing open letters, which has happened to some extent, we are just peasants in a feudal system.
It does not matter who tells you to subject the children in your care to abuse – if you subject the children in your care to abuse you are responsible for that.
We are all just peasants in a feudal system at the moment – that does not absolve any of us of responsibility for our own actions. There is always a choice.
In a school context, the orders will come proximately from the head teacher. If we are talking about masks, which I loathe and see as a clear violation of the basic human right of bodily autonomy, a teacher is perhaps able to refrain from enforcing ‘the rules.’ A teacher may even, depending on the school culture and relationships with the kids (as some might well dob the teacher in), get away with challenging the legitimacy and wisdom of mandatory masking in the course of teaching. That is probably the limit of what can be done by an individual teacher without courting suspension and dismissal.
I think the more acute question that individual teachers will have to face is the up-the-nose-and-down-the-throat testing. If teachers are instructed to carry those tests out, on minors whose consent has been extorted, then they will be forced to take a conscientious stand or become directly complicit.
Here in France the kids are to spit in a cup and the saliva is tested. Government clearly relieved as they openly admit swab testing was painful and no doubt feared a backlash if they tried to enforce it. Why isn’t this option available in the UK?
But would you do it anyway?
BBC R4 is reporting that Labour is supporting bozos school return plans.
Would the teachers unions accept long term.liability to be paid out of teachers pensions for the harm they will inflict on kids as long term mask wearing increases the probability of lung cancer, pleurisy and bacterial pneumonia.
https://science.news/2021-01-15-long-term-mask-use-breeds-microbes-lung-cancer.html
They might accept that. After all, it would be no skin off their nose.
The unions are not speaking for teachers on this. They neither know nor care what teachers think about it.
To be clear, I consider mandatory masking evil, degrading and harmful. I agree that mandatory masking of children is child abuse.
It is difficult to see what a classroom teacher with a family to support can do, beyond ignoring ‘rule-breaking’ and perhaps including sceptical content or asides when teaching. Even that is dangerous.
Maybe they should just duck out and go for long-term sick leave with stress?
Just consider this, why are you more inclined to believe politicians, corporations & MSM narratives, who has an agenda & who profits? Question everything, think for yourself, trust no one, judge narratives with independent facts (not fact-checkers).
Is COVID-19 A Hoax? by Iain Davis
Xi’s PCR Test Protocol The Very Opinionated Kate Wand Show
I agree re. questioning everything and thinking for yourself, but had a strange interaction with a friend last week. She totally believes everything that’s been pumped out by government, MSM, etc. and was pleased and proud to have rushed off to be jabbed a few weeks ago. My husband bumped into her just after – she asked when he was going to be jabbed. He told her we were thinking about it. We aren’t and won’t be having it. When we saw her last week, it was obvious she couldn’t wait to get the pleasantries out the way so she could grill us about the jab. He again told her he hadn’t decided (much simpler with her), then she starts on me ‘And have you made up your mind?’ ‘Yes.’ ‘And you’re having it.’ ‘No.’ ‘Why not.’ ‘What’s the point when it doesn’t stop you getting it or transmitting it.’ ‘Oh yes it does!’ ‘Well, I understand it doesn’t.’ ‘Your trouble is you read too much and believe it!’ She didn’t get the irony….
I believe it will reduce transmission, because I believe spread is lower when symptoms are less severe.
I’m not getting it purely on principle – they shouldn’t buy it for me without checking whether I want it. I only take untested drugs if the purported effects are really fun.
I thought it reduced symptoms so that you could spread it without knowing you had the disease.
The “vaccines” will just cause more mutations.
Worth repeating::
Just consider this, why are you more inclined to believe politicians, corporations & MSM narratives, who has an agenda & who profits?
Question everything, think for yourself, trust no one, judge narratives with independent facts (not fact-checkers).
the Iain Davis article is interesting – especially the point at the end about terrain based theory.
It’s the height of hypocrisy, modellers ridiculing “conspiracy theorists”!
I’m not a big fan of James Corbett, but I have a open mind & willing to listen to anyone & judge them on their content. He does have an obsession with Malthusian theory & eugenics, as do his nemesis, I disagree with his views on population but, thing is theories are becoming facts.
How Can A Global Conspiracy Work – Questions For Corbett The Corbett Report
ITT Video – New World Order. In-This-Together.com
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How are they going to implement this? Yes they can empty your bank account remotely but what about physical possesions? What logistics have they there. I’ll defend my family and property to the death.
I don’t think it will happen overnight in, say, one fell swoop, but it will be done by one incremental act upon another; if you stand back and look at everything that is happening it is already underway – we are being conditioned to being locked up in our houses, the economy trashed, then there will be a debt amnesty, which people will think is great, like the furlough, but you will have to pay for the debt amnesty down the line, and when they have “got you out of your debt” then the extension will be “if you hand over your house” and for peeps not in that boat then they will have a wealth tax applied to them until they have to sell their house to pay for it yada yada yada and airline travel is increasingly only going to be available to people who can afford to travel by jet [the elite] we aren’t intended to own [or drive cars] – again, the elite, already underway with the electric cars policy by 2030. It will be a piece by piece chip chip chip unless we begin to say “we see what you are doing and we don’t… Read more »
Its like a madman’s rantings and ravings
Buy physical silver and keep it under the floorboards
Bring the whole rotting system down
Interesting that they use the word ‘theory’ because, as you say A-S, theories are facts, well almost. If Ferguson et. al. don’t like it, they should call us ‘Conspiracy Hypothesists’ as a hypothesis is a possible explanation for some observable thing. All Ferguson’s hypotheses have been miles out and that is why he has not created a theory. Darwin’s ‘Theory of Evolution by natural selection’ is a theory because trillions of pieces of data have been found all supporting it. Just one kangaroo successfully mating with a snail would prove it wrong. Once all the data is in, then we have facts such as 2020 being the 9th deadliest year this century, the pandemic ending last May and masks and lockdowns causing more harm than good.
Critical Theory – Change the meaning of the words, control the language, gain the power . It’s all the same pseudoscience and doublespeak. It intentionally makes no sense. These people do not understand or respond to reason or rational arguments. You waste your time and brain power . Responding on an emotional level doesn’t work either – they have no empathy. Amply shown in the tos and fros with Ferguson ATL.
This is a whole bigger problem
But at least she socked it to him and in public as opposed to having to see his mug on the MSM night time news and have to listen to his pronouncements, received by whichever news reader, without having any right of reply.
I can’t bear the pointlessness of this anymore. Hanging around waiting for these fuckwitts to invent another variant or some such fearmongering crap. Just woke up at 5am. Wish I hadn’t. This is not a life..,..
Health authorities in India claim to have discovered two hundred and forty new variants of the virus.
Oh FFS
I remember many years ago watching a documentary about an accomplished safe cracker/bank robber. His career began with him feeling hopeless, he had nothing going for him & decided to commit suicide! Whilst contemplating how to do it he had a thought, if I’ve got nothing to lose, I may as well throw caution to the wind & take some risks to enjoy myself. Eventually of course he ended up in prison, but he so enjoyed his journey there he forgot all about ending it.
Or the old joke about the man who felt so desperate that he decided to end it all by taking 200 aspirins. After taking the first two, he felt better.
Or the urban legend of the bloke when after trying to gas himself with non toxic gas in an enclosed room decided that he wasn’t meant to die and sat on the floor and lit himself a fag.
Resumé
BY DOROTHY PARKER
Razors pain you;
Rivers are damp;
Acids stain you;
And drugs cause cramp.
Guns aren’t lawful;
Nooses give;
Gas smells awful;
You might as well live.
KABOOM!
This is true, it happened around 30 years ago in the road next to me in Chislehurst. The roof of the house blew off and the guy was blown out into his front garden, I think he survived, unlike his house!
Hopefully he wrote the book inspiring the documentary and really cashed in?
well, exactly. the heady freedom of having nothing more to lose.
Don’t hang about waiting for the fuckwits. Find something worthwhile to do. There’s still plenty.
Oh, and let’s organise a nationwide booing session every time the fuckwits go on TV and open their foul little gobs. That sounds worthwhile to me.
Irritated the sheep and collaborators in Australia so it’s worth a go.
Oh I’m already doing that – telling them just where to get off/flicking the finger/etc…
Does this mean I am not the only person swearing at the radio/TV every time a covid ad comes on and everytime the fat pig dictator or handjob comes on the TV? Colour me surprised!
That’s something I can get on board with – I’ll get out the pots and spoons to annoy the neighbours like they did with me every bloody Tuesday.
I couldn’t sleep I’m so excited.In 2 weeks time i will be allowed to sit on a park bench eating a sandwich.
Who said you could eat? It’s a slow release, food comes with good behaviour!
There will be standards fro what constitutes a “snack” as against “food”
I wonder if a Scotch egg will be OK? Eggs are a natural source of vitamin D, bet Gove didn’t know that at the time.
It may depend on whether it’s warm …. or not .
….and I’m not convinced you’re joking either. Scotch Egg anyone?
In Germany, they are already past that. The police is telling people off for not drinking and eating fast enough when walking or standing outside. Plenty of vids on that.
The world has gone completely mad.
Because in most German city centres the Gestapo has decreed that we must wear masks. Some wicked people try to circumvent the order by eating, drinking or smoking, hence the videos you’ve seen. Yes, the world is truly nuts, and I now want little part of it.
Funny that..I was in Hyde Park over the weekend and every bench was occupied with people ..wait for it..eating and drinking. The sheeple of upper middle classes have spoken, you may take away our freedom but you will never take away their M&S sandwiches..Good to see people having fun with barely a mask in sight.
A Waitrose tax and a work from home tax will sort them out
My experience is that a lot of people are in “quietly ignore” mode.
I’ve been doing that anyway although I tend to avoid crowds of people. My experience in London at any rate is that people who actually go out and about are less fanatical about all the nonsense.
I was up at 4.45am for another day of existing, not living.
Shit in an envelope and send to your local covid test centre
pace yourself, Chris. it’s gonna get a lot worse before it gets better. we’re in this for the long haul.
Try to find something creative to do, and try to not to let this stuff get to you, These fuckers are soulless beyond reason ,do not let them beat you
Look just above the line. Barr is opening up a rift between ‘us’ vaccine enthusiasts and ‘them’ anti-vaxxers.
This is very, very dangerous. Not all lockdown sceptics are necessarily vaccine sceptics, but an awful lot are – maybe the majority – and if they’re made to feel unwelcome, they’ll leave.
No need to BE an anti-vaxxer, Barr. Just don’t sing the praises of the stuff all the bloody time.
Changed your story today I see 😉
“‘us’ vaccine enthusiasts”
You serious, Annie?
I am not a snake oil enthusiast.That’s why I used the distancing quotes.
That was my interpretation of your original comment. I thought it was a fair comment too.
Thank God for that. 👍
I thought you’d been hacked. 😜
The only hacking hereabouts is done by me, on my horse, who doesn’t give a horseshit for the Evil Bozo or the Welsh Dung-gang or anybody else like them.
I’ve generally stopped reading ATL. The comments section is where it’s at anyway.
Despite the increasing rubbish ATL I’m very thankful for the opportunity to express my views.I have been censored at the Mail and on Peter Hitchens blog.
It’s been stonkingly good recently, in the whole – although I haven’t yet read the first article today. (The emails between Ferguson and the lady who contacted him have been good for the soul) Someone on here over the weekend rationalised their vaccine/snake oil refusal with being part of the ‘control group’, and I shall use this to anyone who taxes me on the subject. Also, how can businesses deny services to unvaccinated people of child-bearing age, who would be mad to risk this intervention?
Oh good tip Jane – I have been worrying about how to position myself re refusal to have vax – so, control group is good idea. I’m not anti-vax, just pro-choice, and I choose not to have this one.
As ever there is no room given for scientific discussion on the “vaccine” issue .
They just automatically divide peoples opinions into acceptable and unacceptable .
Anyone would think they don’t want to talk a out it ?
It’s as if the crisis the government created has a “solution” which must never be viewed with suspicion of any kind. Obviously there is something very very wrong with this gene therapy jab.
Agree totally, if nothing else we are a broad church.
I haven’t read an article on this site in perhaps five months. I am thankful to Toby Young for starting this, but I use it as a message board only.
Yep bring me your huddled masses, we are lockdown sceptics. We want that to end. The idiocy of thinking this can only be ended by vaccinating everybody is the height of stupidity. All those people over the park yesterday, only the super old have had the jab. Quick prime the hospitals expect a shit load of incoming patients! Oh wait, nothings happened. So why do we need a very expensive, experimental vaccine? Here’s a easy test, open up with no restrictions, no masks, everything open! No mass testing. Now what is the increase in hospitalisation? Not many. Well what a surprise! The fact that three articles ATL mention only getting out of this thanks to the vaccine. Two of the government statements link to how vaccines will have bought down death’s/infections. How the hell can you possibly tell that? So the question still is and has always been, what us an acceptable level of death?
are you saying the anti mRNA vaccine jingle just above the line is pro vaccine? I’m confused.
Good morning sceptics. What time is the clown show on tonight? Not that I will be tuning in but I do get amused when colleagues stay in the office after 5pm to receive their helping of indoctrination.
People stay at work to watch it?
I would stay at work to avoid it – have to keep my blood pressure under control.
It genuinely tickles me observing the rituals and practices that go on. The funniest was when everyone was returning from their first jab and laminating their appointment cards like they’d just come off the Nemesis roller coaster and wanted a souvenir mug.
Don’t forget that awful little boast logo thing the sheeple are starting to stick up on their Facebook pages of “I’ve had the jab”. Smirks of self-satisfaction and pats on the back on their part all round. Well – it’s one quick way for us to identify who definitely wouldn’t get a FB friend request agreed to.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 There’s nowt queer as folk.
Oh you have got to get an old t-shirt and after the announcement run around like you have just scored the winner in the last minute of the cup final. Shouting freedom, freedom, hug a few sheepies, slide on your knees and tear your shirt open.
This may be the reason I Don’t work in an office anymore!!
I’d rather eat worms than watch the false pieties of the Fatberg as he and his priests worships the Pfizer, the Moderna and the holy Astra-Zeneca and announce the coming Church of the Holy Lockdown. Halle-feckin-luiah.
haven’t been able to stomach watching it for a long time now
Do what I do and watch pointless.
There’s got to be a joke there somewhere.
Or The Chase 🙂
Pointless is pointless.
Yes, but it’s entertaining (in small doses).
Thank God I don’t have a telly to watch this abomination. I’m surprised at the amount of people still willing to be brainwashed by all this. Yesterday Mr Bart & I saw a bloke with an army issue rucksack and on it there was a sticker proclaiming he had the vaccine. He didn’t look like he was part of the “vulnerable” category so why he would get the jab was baffling.
Oh well……
3.30 I believe
Sorry, 3.30 in Parliament and 7pm press conf.
I shall be otherwise engaged at 7pm.
I won’t be watching it.
The Ferguson and reader correspondence is interesting.
It’s the stuff proper journos should have been asking but, of course, they won’t as that’s “off message”
No, no it’s not, tens of thousands of people have died, hundreds of thousands of lives ruined, millions unemployed, our futures thoroughly fucked, country in massive debt, because of an incompetent physics professor who had no experience or qualifications to even be involved & it’s not the first time he’s been so wrong & destroyed lives.
And all that was said he couldn’t help it, he didn’t mean any malice, fuck right off, he deserves the gas chamber & I’ve got no respect for the shill writing it, more concerned with conspiracy theorists than fake models, what does he think models are if not conspiracy theory? The government needs to shut Ferguson up not Piers Corbyn, Corbyn makes more sense.
You’d think somebody who had been so catastrophically wrong, so many times, would think maybe I’m not cut out for this. But he just digs deeper.
I think the female correspondent cuts him too much slack, personally.
Yes, a bit but she writes so well and is really in command of all her information. I get so angry I can’t write at all.
I agree, I thought she wrote great letters and he didn’t seem to get any of the points at all, or certainly very few!!
Oh I am sure he got them – he also knows anything he commits in writing is gonna end up in the public domain at some point- so of course he distances himself from it all. The man is a sociopath- SAGE is his natural home and yes all his colleagues and friends will protect him because they are ALL culpable in this mess
I agree.
for me the buck stops with Boris Johnson. he didn’t have to listen to Ferguson. Boris Johnson is the one who deserves the death penalty.
Surely they ALL do?!
“Life is an opportunity, not a threat.” Well said, Mr Johnson. …not!
Life’s for living that’s our philosophy! Name dat tune!
Another regurgitation of tepid MSM articles.Boris would like to release us sooner but he’s stung by criticism that he opened up too soon last year.How can adults believe this crap.
I’ll give you a road map.The government will string us along all summer with piecemeal lifting of restrictions while real cases dwindle.Come Autumn either a new made up variant or an apocalyptic model will give the government the fig leaf it needs to close down again.We are in lockdown until the population are ‘vaccinated’
and only released with a digital passport into a very different world.
Thanks, J. Couldn’t have put it any better myself. 👍
This bollocks about these are “earliest dates” implies he’ll just move everything further and further back at his leisure.
And our bloody fool MPs will let him.
Afraid you’re right: very afraid.
I disagree, we are in lockdown until the population say ‘stop’.
One of the articles above says that Nipah virus with 75% mortality is the next one down the track coming for us – would imagine by that stage we will all be wearing hazmat suits and carrying our own oxygen supplies just to go to Tesco
it is a strange way to govern? for some while they have been saying that one of the measures for easing lock-down will be infections, there has then been some feebbck on Twitter and the media about the problems with using that figure given the high number of tests being undertaken and now it says in the news above that infections will not be a criteria! In my view quite rightly, infections numbers should not be used in this way but what a way to decide policy? That then leaves the criteria of hospitalisations and deaths. Even the BBC news were getting frustrated the other day that no expert would put a figure on what is the acceptable level of deaths before draconian public heal;h interventions are undertaken? Then if you ask the NHS, are you busy? the answer seems to be; nearly overwhelmed, fully overwhelmed or collapsed, asking the NHS if they are busy is about as useful as asking a Farmer if they are happy with the current state of the weather? So how are they going to assess this? in my view hospitalisations and deaths are now way below the figure to justify draconian public health interventions… Read more »
With, of course, a reminder that these “infections” are nothing of the kind.
I think this is where they’ve got themselves in a pickle because they know FULL WELL that the current level of deaths is acceptable once you stop inflating the stats.
And the same with the NHS supposedly being overwhelmed – they know that didn’t happen and that the problems with capacity are of their own making.
Plus it’s all moot now that they’re created an ever bigger capacity problem by not treating cancer patients etc. The waiting lists are MUCH MUCH worse than is being touted – they are being deliberately kept down by refusing to put patients on the official referral pathways and instead just keeping their own unofficial lists on Outlook etc.
And if the government is no longer giving millions of pound to the msm in advertising revenue will they “bite the hand that fed them?” was watching the American news where a left leaning reporter was giving the assistant to the VP an easy ride till he asked will you let kids go back to school as the CDC has said it was safe. He asked the same question 4 times and she would not give a straight answer.
Because we never set out a “safe” level of acceptable deaths because we have never had what Dr Lee calls a grown up conversation about death. We flip and flop around without knowing what our trigger points are. This is simply a government tactic and a classic tactic of abusers. How can I ever please you if I don’t know what’s good or bad? This is going to drag on and on, a weak and ineffectual leader surrounded by yes men. The worse government in history!
The reader’s email to Neil Ferguson was possibly the best piece I’ve read since this whole manufactured disaster began. Blow after blow, right hook after right hook, it was like watching Mike Tyson in his prime savaging a scrawny little bookworm.
Ferguson’s response was typically arrogant, flimsy and defensive. They really do believe in everything they preach, which is just terrifying given their influence. This is a dangerous, multinational cult, make no mistake.
I do have one light criticism of the reader’s response though. A huge open goal was missed when Pantsdown said “nor do I have any love of lockdown restrictions themselves” – I would have jumped for joy if our reader would have shot back “you don’t need to remind us mate, you ignored them just to play a game of “hide the sausage” with your married tart of a mistress!!”
He’s a bad lad. Quickly moving up ‘the list’.
I hope this correspondence runs and runs but I’m confident that it won’t for too long: there must be some minders in Imperial who’ll pick up on this and tell him to desist – he’s potentially aiding the enemy by giving useful intelligence (I use the term technically!) of motivations etc but may be proferring info that scientists have been looking for to debate and challenge what is a huge part underpinning government policy with which we all on here disagree.
I can but live in hope!
If nothing else, it draws attention to the site. I’m surprised it hasn’t been picked up by MSM yet as you’d think it would shift copy.
Great appraisal, Scotty87.
Reblogged here:
https://hailtoyou.wordpress.com/2021/02/19/why-the-lack-of-high-profile-cheerleaders-for-the-anti-panic-side-corona-as-social-phenomenon-mystery/#comment-47453
Pantsdown and Mike Tyson…
But it is not even true – he reckoned Western governments couldn’t get away with lockdowns but was surprised when they did.
Married eco-loon please!
“Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth.”
Mike Tyson
Couldn’t see the comments without logging in , may be just a technical error, may be the start of a crackdown on free speech.
The news themes on here today , it goes from the sublime to the ridiculous.
Another load of hair splitting ping-pong with Ferguson .
But as ever THE real issue goes unaddressed. No one is claiming the likes of Ferguson et al sat around concocting phoney data so the World could be taken over by oligarchs.
The issue is the incremental takeover of our institutions by mega donors and the group think aparachiks who work in them. They all have the same background education and belief systems , which ever institution one looks at the situation is the same . Meanwhile out in the real world no one notices.
2nd up we have the unbelievable story of some wokista in f…g Bali wondering why no one’s engaged these oh so talented shysters for a scripted-reality docu-soap of a bunch of “ordinary” people struggling with covid restrictions in a tropical paradise., very topical. How about we do it with real people in say Blackpool.
Aren’t they, I’ve got an open mind on that.
That sums it up for me too.
I was being “non controversial” , there are ex torygraph readers here trying to wake up
If you were a western leader would you admit being scammed by Chinese propaganda?
Xi’s World Pt.3 | Xi’s Infectious Model The Very Opinionated Kate Wand Show.
Virus Mania: Behind The Scenes Dr. Sam Bailey
Thank you for sharing this.
Dr Sam has been a real star 🌟. Her videos on the PCR bullshit are easy to understand and nail down how useless they are.
A question: Where are the Anti-Panic / Anti-Lockdown Leaders?
Given the data-based case is overwhelmingly against the Pro-Panic side, on all points, why aren’t there more large-platform, uncompromising Anti-Lockdown voices?
Why does it still primarily fall to relatively small-platform dissidents to squabble over Neil “Doctor Frankenstein” Ferguson, and the like, after all this time?
The noodle-armed nature of the Anti-Lockdown side at top levels is key to understand the entire phenomenon of the past twelve months. What ‘noodle-fied’ their arms?
Why the lack high-profile opinion-leaders for the Corona Anti-Panic side? Peering into “Covid” as social phenomenon
https://hailtoyou.wordpress.com/2021/02/19/why-the-lack-of-high-profile-cheerleaders-for-the-anti-panic-side-corona-as-social-phenomenon-mystery/
This has been the big ,often asked but never answered question of the past year.
The only two options are
1, the suitable candidates are brainwashed/compromised
2, too scared of the repercussions of getting above the parapet with little media/social media support
I propose what may be a third family of explanations (or, if not, then classifiable as a 2-b):
The psychological pressures acting on those who snap out of the Corona-Cult are, I propose, similar for those break out of ties with a typical mind-control-based religious cult. Generally, “cult”-defectors will be frightened and hesitant even when they’ve made a full break, a weakened state certainly making them ineffective as prospective leaders.
This is a psychological state different from the usual one of simply fear of being bad media coverage.
I attempt to develop this idea here,
The Cognitive Dissonance of the Corona-Cult-Defector:
https://hailtoyou.wordpress.com/2021/02/19/why-the-lack-of-high-profile-cheerleaders-for-the-anti-panic-side-corona-as-social-phenomenon-mystery/#dissonance
I’ve noticed that the lockdownistas and their cheerleaders always use emotive, manipulative and simplistic language and slogans. Plus you have the deluded millenials who have unquestioningly bought into Corbyn and the hard left’s “people before profit” and “lives before the economy” bollocks forgetting that without the economy and profit there would be no NHS and no lives. Hence why the likes of Luke Johnson, Sir Rocco Forte and Simon Dolan – businessmen all who have stuck their heads out to speak out against the lockddown have all been denounced as greedy profiteers who care more about their businesses than public health.
“emotive, manipulative and simplistic language and slogans”
All familiar from any religion worth its salt.
Yep. This is another new religion.
I think at first it was felt important not to show even a bat squeak of a hint of support for Trumpian wrongthink and now it’s too late. individual heroes, Lord Gumption, Lee, Levitt, Yeadon etc. but not a critical mass.
With Trump gone, why doesn’t it change? Or is it changing?
Hate the way that people will rejoice at the “roadmap” today when Boris basically declares that despite rapidly falling numbers however you slice them, lockdown will continue for months.
Two more unnecessary weeks of school being banned.
Two more weeks of technically being arrested for sitting on a bench.
At least a month until an elderly person in a care home can chose ONE family member to hold their hand (but nothing more).
Months more until restaurants and cafes and pubs can let people through their doors.
Most likely no mention of cinemas and theatres at all.
And as for that wholly radical idea of letting somebody from your family into your house?
Maybe late summer.
How gullible and accepting have people become?
This is not a roadmap out, it is just another cruel extension.
Totally. And not one of them will say, “But they’ve vaccinated all the elderly and vulnerable. Johnson said it would end when he’d done that.”
Wish there was an EXACTLY option for liking and not just an up vote or down vote.
Maybe this was the point of only giving people one dose rather than two in the end – so it can be dragged on interminably since no one will have been “properly” vaccinated.
Of course the only people “rejoicing” are the media opinion peddlers and acceptable influencers.
Everyone else knows it’s total BS and just another episode of carry-on lockdown.
A little freedom over the summer when flu disappears.
Wait until the Fall.
Fergutard with his fake models. Shitty with his fake medicine philosophy.
‘Ahead of the curve’ they will scream. Based on the Fake Data, need to LD in late Sept again. You know, in it together, save the NHS, look her in the eyes etc….
Would not surprise me to see LD 4 in late Sept 2021. With the Sheeple bleating, applauding, crying.
It’s just more Bollox on top of all the rest they have subjected us too . No rejoicing here until we get back out of Lockdown completely ( if that ever happens )
Agree. There will be no rejoicing here either.
But if he were to appear on TV today and announce a new total lockdown for the next few months, to the casual observer even the media it would be seen as terrible.
So because he phrases it instead as, “we are almost there”, it will undercut any argument we have for complaining, as it will be “we can see the end”.
Yes we can. But it is not the end they mean.
I am not sure about lockdown for the next one. There is no doubt this lockdown has nit been anywhere near as well supported as the first. This was because of the fact we had a taste of freedom and nothing happened to the level of deaths. I think after an extended run out even more people will not abide by the rules. The ONLY reason for a phased release is if we “let it rip” and everyone could see it had no impact on infections and hospitalisation their whole house if cards would come tumbling down.
Agree. I won’t be surprised if there’s no mention of my sector at all – museums & heritage and the sheep-like and supine cowards like Tristam Hunt, Hartwig Fischer, Gabriel Firnaldi, Nicholas Cullinan, et al will just accept the continued restrictions while the rest of us continue to fear for our jobs and future.
I read somewhere that the Metropolitan Museum in New York is considering selling some of their collection to stave off bankruptcy. Is this what the likes of Hunt and Fischer want, to preside over the demise of the institutions they head because they were too cowardly to challenge and fight the government to defend their right to exist and make an honest living?
Well the billionaires have to find something to spend all our spare money on (now sitting in their pockets) – so a little bit of investment in fine art and fine wine etc etc. Perish the thought they might actually give our money back to us or do something useful.
That article did mention that the Met are going through their donors and patrons to raise money in order not to resort to any sales of paintings or items in their collection.
I find it weird how supine the arts sector have been re. this shite. What happened to the rebellious, anarchic artist and musician?
Indeed. They have complained more about Brexit entailing difficulties with the bureaucracy of gigs in mainland Europe.
And of course, there will be several fearsome new variants to thwart it all, by the end of summer. The government is simply taking the piss, so don’t even blame its, corrupt Bill Gates funded, advisors like Ferguson. Though these people are giving criminal advice, it is what they are paid to do. Ferguson et al as well as government ministers should all end up in jail or perhaps more likely, will face a lynch mob out for retribution.
Not even new variants, new viruses altogether…
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/health/medical/nipah-virus-warning-brain-swelling-sickness-with-75-death-rate-could-spark-next-pandemic/ar-BB1dQj4P
Oh dear, well old Bill did warn us months ago that Pandemic 2 was coming and he should know.
And the kneejerk response of the average brainwashed covidian has been: families can meet on March 29 but kids will be in school from March 8 so that’s households mingling isn’t it what’s the point of that then here we go again the cases are bound to rise what part of pandemic don’t they understand this government is effing clueless bleat bleat bleat
Offer the teachers the vaccine. Watch them decline it in the tens of thousands.
Then what do the unions do?
?
The unions have been demanding teachers get moved up the vax priority list, saying teachers aren’t safe from the little sacks of infections they have to share a classroom with.
I’m suggesting that the Regime do as they ask, give them the vaccine; tens of thousands will refuse it, especially women who might want to have their own little sacks of infection someday.
That leads to my question, what will the unions do then to avoid their members having to work?
I am aware that hard working teachers are available.
Thanks for your answer, Ceriain.
Much appreciated.
This is one group I wouldn’t mind being forcibly injected.
Is there a vaxx to ‘stimulate’ common sense and reality we can inject the teachers with?
Hopefully you’ll reconsider this post when you feel better or sober up …
COVID-19 VACCINE EFFECTS ON MY ARMY HUSBAND’S HEART
https://www.bitchute.com/video/O586Qcye2qD8/
I really feel for this lady and her husband. However, she’s wrong in her interpretation of the Jan 21 Moderna press release. It references a Ph1/2 study in Japan only. The VAERS database will cover all use since the vaccine has started being given under EUA.
Japan almost always requires a separate study for use, due to metabolic differences in the asiatic population.
She is correct to say her husband as well as millions of others are part of an experiment.I understand government wants to protect people from covid but why force the healthy to have a vaccine which has not had enough time to be tested properly. This is why talk of vaccine passports is premature especially when 99% of those under 60 survive covid. Instead of forcing people to be vaccinated open up society and encourage people to look after their health with exercise and vitamin D etc.
My thought for the day – has anyone else noticed the Great Silence? Where are all those voices of the ones that have chosen to take the Vax or been bullied into taking the Vax – supporting our “Right to Choose”? Why aren’t they saying “Well – though I chose to take the Vax or got bullied into it – I absolutely accept that Vax Apartheid would be wrong. Once we are let back in to places – then so must you be. If you’re kept outside the door – then we will write letters/stand on picketlines/boycott/etc/etc (I won’t bother to specify the etc – I’ll let you guess…). If you CAN’T go in – we WON’T go in”. I’ve been waiting and waiting and waiting and still hear a Great Silence (even from those I have been regarding as friends). Excuse me – friendship means not seeing your friend treated as a leper and kept outside the door, whilst you walk back in.
And i wish people would stop telling me they have had the jib jabber jab,
I see it as a two-way thing on their part. Virtue signalling “Aren’t I a goodie two shoes?” on the one hand. But I think the main reason for them saying it may well be pressure on the rest of us to do so and they want to work out who they intend to “send to Coventry” for not having it and blow us and our rights.
Sounds about right,.
I’ve gotten that on my Arsebook newsfeed – many of them are retired and live in the middle of nowhere so I suspect a lot of this is not only virtue signalling but also their getting the vaccine was one way of having some human contact. Although why they didn’t just bother to have family and friends over is a bleeding mystery since its cheaper, good for one’s physical and mental health is baffling.
LOL – also retired and living in the middle of nowhere (sometimes referred to even locally as “The land that time forgot”) and would do without human contact all round sooner than “virtue signal” and risk my health to get it. Roll on when I can afford a car – and blow the 5 miles restriction Dripford has got on us currently.
They’re like kids with stickers for being a brave boy at the dentist.
I know its very puzzling
yes, I really don’t want to know, just as I don’t want to know what method of contraceptive they use, or when they last had a bowel movement
You could reply to that one with saying that peoples health issues are a private matter – but “If you have any nice recipes that would be suitable for me to trial here then do tell please”.
YEP
i always say in response i wont get any vaccine , and am doing my best to convince others not to, i think it might be working but i better get to work so many more to convince .
If you want to abort andkill a baby ‘it is my right, my right to choose’. Scream the intolerants.
Don’t want to ingest mercury, phosphates, experimental mRNA tainted with links to aborted fetal cells because the survival rate is 99.7% and the vaxx does not stop transmission, has killed hundreds in the UK and injured thousands and it takes years to see if a vaxx is safe… – well well well. Criminal. Lunatic. Anti-Science. Not your right. You have no choice. You should simply be shot. Scream the Vaxx Fascists.
I’m not sure how to read your post? Seems to be anti-abortion (so out on two counts then – wrong view/wrong topic for here).
his point is that the foetus is denied a right to life on the ground that he can not maintain his survival without appropriating someone else’s body for 9 months, -thereby causing them physical pain and discomfort and putting them at a not insubstantial risk of illness and death. whether you agree with it or not, this is a powerful pro-abortion argument. However, if you accept it, then for the sake of consistency you should also accept that a human being who can not maintain their survival without appropriating someone else’s body by forcing a needle into it, also entailing for that person pain, suffering and risk of illness or death, equally has no right to life.
The principle of ‘my body my choice’ is common to abortions and to ‘vaccinations’.
Stand by your guns and remind her you have over a 99% recovery from it so need for a vaccination
If you lose a lot of the vaxxed – then I’m sure you’d get a lot more of us (unvaxxed) coming in in their place. A better class of customer then LOL than the vax bullies. I know I can think of a place local to me that doesn’t serve my sort of food (shame – as the prices are cheap!) and doesn’t know how to make a flat white coffee (and so I get something rather different when I ask for one) and is less “modern” than I’d like – but I go in there now more often (when it’s open) because I know I won’t be harassed/made to feel unwelcome and will possibly see a friendly face or two. Still wish they’d put some healthy fashionable type food on the menu – but, oh well, I’ll settle for my “(not a) flat white” coffee and alcoholic drinks then.
Well done for sticking to your guns. Anyone who says the same thing to me will be given short shrift. What is it about this virus that has brought out the bullying and hectoring side of people? Apart from the lack of common sense and logic?
Her response is the giveaway that she hasn’t actually taken on board the limitations of the vaccine. She can still catch covid and can still pass it on. It is going to do the square root of naff all towards herd immunity. If somebody wants to have it so that they don’t get such severe symptoms, in the event of them actually getting covid, then fine, but they’re not protecting anybody else.
I know I’m preaching to the converted but still!
She needs to read a history book.
Quick and easy – one doesn’t have to go back far – just as far as Tony Bliar (not a mistype) and his dodgy dossier for the Iraq War.
And the infamous ‘facts fixed around the policy’ strategy – which seems to have become a permanent fixture.
Agree. I still have visiting your cafe in my bucket list to do when this shit show is over. And agree about the number of sceptics getting bigger by the day; yesterday I posed on here that I didn’t see anyone muzzled or doing social distancing in Epping Forest last Saturday and I silently cheered when I overheard a couple in their 20s voice sceptical views about lockdowns and masks so there is hope.
lucky you – I’m a lone wolf here – i’d love to meet fellow sceptics IRL
The ‘vaccinated’ labour under the delusion that they are immune. They are not. They can still catch, pass on, and die of Covid. From a business point of view (thinking risk assessment here), could the (promiscuous?) ‘vaccinated’ be considered more of a health hazard than the non-vaccinated?
Professor Ferugssion’s remark ‘I am a bit surprised you point to Brazil as a success story though. And if you highlight Belarus, why not China?’ says it all. He clearly still believes what the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) (with which Imperial College has close links) tells him and no reports of their cover-ups, mendacity or atrocities will change his mind. I believe the term ‘useful idiot’ applies here. The problem of CCP influence in universities is increasingly being recognised: there is a reason Sweden closed it’s Confucius Institutes and the US was doing likewise under the previous administrations. Here, there are also calls (which Boris is resisting) to sanction dealings with the CCP: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-55986195 – not a moment too soon in my view.
No critical reflection. No attempt to consider lockdown harms – talks about restrictions like they are minor inconveniences. Too fixed in his thinking. Probably on the autistic spectrum. I’m really struggling with this guy spearheading our Coronavirus response.
Letter’s to Ferguson summarise the fraud and mendacity. A non-IT person ‘modeling’. Next a non-surgeon, performing surgery.
The model fraud and data fraud is astounding. No more than 30 K died from Covid in the UK. CDC in the US has admitted the dead numbers are 90% over-stated. Yet the Fake News still parrots the fake dead totals, nary a word of dissent or interest in confirming the data sources, starting with the changed MCCD procedures. Nothing on the LD dead.
Fergutard needs to be in jail.
Who will pay in the end? And who will get his lordship?
Can we just send Fergo on an exchange program to China for a few months.
He tries to say Sweden had way more respiratory deaths this year than usual which is true but they had similar if not better “Covid” deaths per million to the UK. In fact you cannot tell which countries had stringent measures and those that didn’t, if you go on the official published data (itself an exagerration due to the vague attribution criteria for Covid). His point is that for a particular local metric measures were needed but then fails the test that systematically there was no significant effect. He has done the typical thing of extrapolating micro effects to the macro scale using “ceteres parebus” (All things being equal) without consideration it seems that systems have coupling and limiting processes at the macro scale. We call these compensation effects – one famous one is road deaths being unaffected and even kept artificially higher by introduction of seatbelts. He’s wrong. The experiment showed he was wrong but instead he cherry picks one aspect and says “look Sweden was actually way worse”. Their mortality rates are UNCHANGED for fuck’s sake. Ours are not an order of magnitude worse and not even the worst in the last 20 years. This is the same… Read more »
Why not China? Hmm, where shall we start?
Alumni fund raising email this morning from the master of my college boasting about divesting from ‘fossil fuel’ and citing WHO advice. Part of my reply.
The WHO is in thrall to CCP and its advice in many areas, not least COVID-19, is hardly impartial. I would much prefer to hear that Xxx and CU in general had cut ties with CCP which is increasing the rate at which it constructs coal fired power stations with few if any emission controls.
For the sake of my granddaughters I would like to hear about measures Xxx is taking to divest from any investments tainted by the Uighur genocide. Alumni in Taiwan, Hong Kong, Australia and countries affected by the nine-dash line policies of CCP would probably agree.
Road to Freedom
Roadmaps tell us where to go,
And I suspect we’re lost,
Boris has a plan for us,
To hell with all the costs.
If people die of suicide,
He’ll cover all his tracks,
He won’t tell us the truth,
Or we’d never take his vax.
I fear he knows precisely,
The disaster he’s creating,
As he talks of further measures,
‘Cause the virus is mutating.
His push for vaccinations,
Makes my stomach churn,
I can’t bear to hear his lies,
For he makes my anger burn.
The fear and propaganda,
The censoring of facts,
He’s lying to this nation,
And no one seems to act.
There’s silence in the empty pubs,
Where strategies are planned,
We need to get together,
To help to free our land.
I’m not convinced that freedom,
Will be given us by law,
But we need to take it anyway,
It’s time for us to roar.
Our liberties were stolen,
And we have to take them back,
I don’t care what Boris says today,
His roadmap’s utter c##p.
Hear hear I totally agree
Hey L.A., where have you gone?
Send someone to fetch us we’re in Saskatchewan!
Trigger warnings for Muppet Movie naturally.
I see more and more evidence lockdown is not going to last much longer whatever Boris does or what SAGE may want. I had two neighbours drop in unannounced yesterday, one of whom has been shielding for months. Neither worse masks, neither had an approved reason to be there. They weren’t even friends, just acquaintances who wanted advice. Both came and sat in my kitchen and Covid was barely mentioned other than me saying, “do come in and sit down, we aren’t bothered about lockdown if you’re not”.
Also over the weekend Derbyshire police set up in the car park of a local retail park and quizzed motorists on their reasons for being out. The abuse they received on social media was very encouraging. When my husband spoke to our elderly neighbour about it – whose wife works for the NHS – he was absolutely scathing about the police. I think they have little idea that they have destroyed policing by consent in this country among the very people who were once the bedrock of their support.
The roads are busy
Lockdownistan will peter out with a whimper as the proles begin to ignore bit by bit
We just need some nice weather and watch it crumble…
Have seen far less compliance over the weekend. I was in Richmond yesterday and the outdoor spaces were packed and cafes were not observing social distancing. Although people were still following the rules about muzzles going into the cafe and supermarkets, there were far less muzzles outdoors than they were a few weeks ago.
I don’t think it has dawned on the police that they’ve lost the respect and trust of the populace and it will take many, many years even decades to win it back.
Yes, definitely name, rank and number only time. Thanks for resisting, a true hero!
We shall remember them long after this nonsense is over .
The only positive when the money has run out is that they will be surprised to find themselves in the poorhouse for a generation.
That’s what happens after state bankruptcies, see public sector salaries and pensions in Germany from 1945-1980 for a blueprint.
Anyone want to place bets on LD 4 commencing late Sept 2021?
You know. Based on the ‘models’. The Fake dead counts. The new ‘variants’ from Madagascar and Turkmenistan. NHS drowning from overwork. etc.
Its going to happen Ferd for sure. Covid21. 6 -8 months on from vaccines?
It’s inevitable, isn’t it?
Australia will soon be moving into Autumn/Winter; they have locked down their population so hard there’s bound to be a huge flu resurgence. They will blame this on Covid (not the vaccine). Northern hemisphere countries will follow when we get to our Autumn/Winter.
And round and round it will go.
There will be a corona virus outbreak in autumn guaranteed, this is when corona viruses do what corona viruses do, whether it is SARS-CoV-2 is a different matter.
Coronas tend to flare up late winter/spring
The rhinoviruses come first in the autumn – followed by adenos and then coronas – regular as clockwork
Schools go back + weather gets colder and people are indoors more. It’s a recipe for an increase in respiratory diseases every year. The big difference this year is – will there be any furlough? No funding no lockdown.
“ Still a fair amount of time left to spend watching Netflix then”
I don’t find this remotely funny.
The countless billions of Lockdown-induced life lost life-years (to wasted time, disrupted development and frayed social ties, unemployment and underemployment and sometimes-bizarre remote-employment, and more, plus the millions of babies-never-born and the actual Lockdown-induced deaths already logged so far)…
vs.
…Some good tens of hours per month of Netflix time.
Choose!
I’ve noticed this too, when you say things like that the NPCs always stare at you blankly, as if they just can’t process it.
Give me a clue Poppy – what’s NPC stand for?
People who don’t think for themselves.
As an old RPG player (role playing games) I assume it refers to Non Player Characters – cardboard cannon fodder in other words!
Yes, Orange man bad!
A term which I think came from the computer game “World of warcraft”. The non playing characters were usually characters who had a “shop” if you interact with them they would say “Hi How are you” or “I think this is the wrong place for my shop” and “Be careful out there!” when you close down the dialogue and leave them. They just stand there looking around.
In contrast a playing character would be a game character driven by artificial intelligence and it will try to kill you hard. Using tactics and special abilities to do so.Chasing you for miles, using its buddies to gang up on you.
NPC is a good term for a drone like human who just sticks to the script, saying the same old same old day in day out for ever. They cannon deviate from the script. Their response is hard-coded.
Hahahaha brilliant. What’s amazing is he is still at the stage of looking forward to Netflix. At the beginning it was kind of fun for a few days but a YEAR IN and this guy still thinks it’s great…wow. No hedonic adaptation for him then…
Funny thing, humour. 🙂
It’s groundhog day.
It’s like deja vu all over again.
The fact that the press have been told first tells us everything we need to know about this madman
Excuse me reminding folks of 6th March which I am suggesting should be ‘resistance day’. Invite friends & family to go in the local supermarket at 9 without masks. Be prepared to video any resistance and threaten them with the 1997 Harassment Act. Then, at 2 pm walk around the local park or beauty spot with a bandana saying “get ’em off”. Invite people, tell them we’ve all worked hard for a year but enough is enough. Never call them sheep or sound holier than them. Keep 3 stats to hand: 2020, 9th most deaths this century; pandemic over last May; 30+ papers say lockdowns don’t work. Please reply with your ideas.
There’s another group putting out a flyer on Twitter saying lockdown ends March 8th. I don’t have the link any more, but maybe that would be the date to aim for, since it’s already been publicised?
Thanks TIMU. 8th is Monday so Saturday 6th makes tremendous sense getting us all in the mood!
Yes. Soften things up for the Great Reopening
THE GREAT REOPENING 20TH MARCH (bitchute.com)
The Bernician has issued his Public Notice of Intended Prosecution:
https://www.thebernician.net/r-pub-v-hancock-others-2021-public-notice-of-intended-prosecution/
I want to know is this going to happen or are they flying a kite? Do they want to crowd fund the action? Or is ready to go and fully funded?
I understand they have the resources they need.
Reading Ferguson’s email reminded me of a limerick I learned some years ago:
There once was a nymph named Narcissus,
Who thought himself highly delicious,
He stared like a fool,
At his face in a pool.
And his folly today is still with us.
Difference, of course, is that Narcissus was said to be beautiful; Ferguson, on the other hand is one ugly bastard!
Lol!
Impressive camera to Zoom his ugly mug though.
Feeling good about today. No vaccine passports mentioned and as deaths start to plummet due to the seasonal nature of the virus the call for them should dissipate. Yes, our economy and large chunks of our way of life will continue to be in tatters but then what’s new? It wasn’t as if the government were going to take advice from anyone different this time. I was out for a walk yesterday and there were so many people out and about, care free and seemingly happy. And the only reason outdoor sports haven’t been happening isn’t because of the legislation, it’s because of the weather. I’ll be playing football again very soon. It’s on individuals to take back what’s theirs – if there’s thousands in the parks and businessess and pubs reopen of their own accord are they really going to be closed down? No. Time to stop looking to our overlords for their consent and make decisions as individuals using common sense, and to support those people as much as possible if they do take a leap of faith as many do on here. For a brief moment, I’m optimistic for the short term future and think some of… Read more »
Indeed. My hope is that what will stop this from ever happening again is that lockdowns and restrictions are fundamentally against human nature and ultimately unsustainable in an advanced modern society.
The Coronavirus Act must be repealed
The real problem is the 1984 Health Act which allows for national emergency powers invoked in response to ‘a severe and imminent threat’ to continue indefinitely as long as the ‘severe and imminent’ threat is re-assessed every 4 weeks (cue overload the NHS, rising cases, rising infections, deadly variants, deadly variants from abroad, etc, etc.) With this, the government can keep this going for as long as they can come up with ‘plausible’ reasons for assessing a ‘severe and imminent’ threat exists.
I’m not as optimistic but I have noticed that this “roadmap” is basically a way of retrospectively giving people “permission” to do the things they’re already doing.
People meeting one other outside for exercise aren’t fasting…let’s give ‘em permission to eat and drink.
Children are meeting in the park to play in the snow… let’s let families meet outside.
If we just took our lives back and started acting normally do you think they’d just give us permission to do so in a few weeks time to make it look like they hadn’t lost control?
It’s what seemed to happen in Italy.
Pubs will not reopen of their own accord because the landlord would lose his license and in any case brewers can’t produce a brew overnight.
The Police will be brutal in closing down cafes -you know what happened in Manchester.
What will be interesting is if they are so vigorous in their pursuit of burglars and shoplifters when all this is over.
Hence why we should never forgive and never forget.
The next time the police use “cuts”, “austerity” and “racism” as an excuse as to why theft, assault, knife crime, violence against women & children remain usolved and are increasing; it will be our sacred duty to remind them that given they had all that resources to harass and intimidate cafe owners, old people taking a rest or two women having coffee then surely they have more than enough to go after real criminals.
I can only think of lorries with pub stuff in them, arranging to be at a specific barn or industrial unit at a given day and time.
Many issues with this, but hard to otherwise break the ‘licence’ threat.
I don’t think we are quite out of the woods yet as regards vaccine passports. In my mother’s DT Business today there is an interview with the head of the IATA who says he is working with governments to get some kind of Travel Pass going so airlines can see proof of Covid vaccinations and test results. He is however the outgoing head and being replaced by Willie Walsh of BA fame. Maybe he will have a different take on how to save the aviation industry.