Coronavirus Endgame

With the publication on Monday of the Government’s “roadmap” out of lockdown, the Covid crisis enters its final phase, albeit a painfully extended one.
The Government has ruled out Zero Covid and, despite earlier reports, not included infection or case levels in its criteria for sticking with its timetable, save for the reference to increases in infections threatening to overwhelm the NHS.
However, it is still beholden to the modellers, with reports that a faster timetable was shelved following an intervention by SAGE scientists who claimed it would cause 55,000 more deaths (or was it 91,000?).
Jeffrey A. Tucker in AIER has written an excellent piece heralding the wind-down in America and around the world and looking ahead, with a welcome air of optimism, to what comes next.
There is a sense in the air that the pandemic is winding down, and the toxic culture of division, fear, and hatred along with it. Cases are down dramatically. Deaths too. Hospitalizations are no longer irregular. Restrictions are being repealed. You can follow all the action daily at the CDC’s new and unusually competent landing page on the virus (it only took them a year to build this).
Despite all the talk of a new normal and infinite mandates, there is hope that it could all unwind quickly, pushed by force of public impatience and frustration with restrictions, and a political scramble to avoid responsibility by running away from all that they did for the last year.
The list of signs and symbols could be made very long.
The politicians who overreached are suddenly being held accountable, with both Andrew Cuomo and Gavin Newsom on the hotseat. Calls for governors and mayors to resign consume state and local news. There is clearly major political tumult building.
– The Great Barrington Declaration scientists can hardly keep up with the requests for respectful interviews, now that it is becoming clear that they were right all along.
– The experience in open states like Florida, Georgia, South Dakota, and so on, makes it impossible to ignore the grim truth that the lockdowns achieved nothing for public health but did harm health, businesses, liberties, law, and civilized life.
– The push to open economies, by the same people who locked down the economies, such as Boris Johnson in the UK, is an implicit repudiation of the nonsensical Zero Covid movement. Everyone seems now to agree with what AIER has been saying for a year: humanity must deal intelligently with pathogens and stop pretending that political forces can control them.
– AIER visiting senior fellow Naomi Wolf had a hit just last evening on the Tucker Carlson show, and they spoke as allies in the reopening efforts after years of ideological sparring.
– There is growing weariness of Anthony Fauci’s daily word salads that have massively mixed up the public health messaging for a full year, to the point that Meghan McCain has called for his firing.
– A year ago, Slate was making sense until the virus became political and they joined the lockdown mob. Now the publication is back to making sense again, with this excellent piece.
– British medical journal the Lancet is publishing excellent short pieces on the cost of lockdowns, including this riveting letter from Martin Kulldorff.
– A prestigious European journal of public health has published a blistering attack on the very idea that a power government should ever be trusted with is virus mitigation.The people who have committed their careers and lives to this pandemic and the policies surrounding it might soon need to find a new raison d’etre. Then the clean up begins – how did this happen, who did it, how to make sure it never happens again – and does not end perhaps for decades.
It’s been fascinating to see the early drafts on the reasons why. There will be some perfunctory efforts to credit lockdowns, masks, human separation, and closures for somehow making the virus go away. The trouble is that there is no evidence of this. There is evidence for many other explanations having to do with herd immunity and “seasonality” (another way of saying the pathogen comes and then goes) and possibly more precision in testing.
For example, this new article by the very sensible Jennifer Beam Dowd of Oxford names many factors (while downplaying the role of vaccines) but says of masks and so on that it is “challenging to identify their specific effects, and cases are dropping in almost all states even with a wide range of policies.”
Indeed!
The reckoning will be taking place for months if not years. In the end people will be left wondering why we took such extreme measures that wrecked so many lives when the endemic equilibrium comes in time regardless of all these measures. We tried a crazy experiment in social and economic control and we are left with scant evidence that it made much difference on the virus but vast evidence that they demoralised and ruined life for billions of people.
Worth reading in full.
Tell Your MP: Look at Florida

Lockdown Sceptics contributor and mathematics student Glen Bishop has got in touch with a suggestion of something we could all send to our MPs to challenge their lazy lockdown thinking. In short: look at Florida.
On Monday, the British PM answered nearly 100 questions from MPs and journalists. Not one raised the case of Florida, the obvious counterexample to the course laid out by the PM. I am yet to see an MP or SAGE member acknowledge the case of Florida. That needs to change.
Empirical data from an experiment which has already taken place will always be a better measure of what to expect when repeating the experiment than speculative modelling based on dozens of assumptions that already predicted the first experiment wrong. That is why it is crucial policymakers take a long hard look at Florida before assuming their favoured modellers are on the money.
The Imperial team predicted 2.2 million deaths for the US within months if there were no restrictions. Accounting for population, that would estimate over 143,000 deaths for a state the size of Florida. Despite having one of the oldest populations in the US, its current death toll stands at just 30,000, less than a quarter of the original Imperial estimate after a year (including a winter), never mind 143,000 in the few months.
Trying to explain to MPs how or why the modelling is inaccurate is mostly a futile endeavour. However, showing them the reality of where the experiment has already been undertaken and the models proved wrong can hit them between the eyes. Why, then, don’t we all email our MPs politely and disarmingly asking why we are lifting our lockdown so slowly when Florida lifted theirs in the autumn and have fared better with fewer Covid deaths? Here is a rundown of key facts about Florida for inspiration.
In September of last year, the Governor of Florida called in an expert team including specialists from Stanford and Harvard Universities to assess whether restrictions had been effective enough to justify their continued use. They concluded they had not been. Subsequently, on September 25th the Governor nullified all public health measures connected to the coronavirus emergency. Instead he targeted resources on shielding the vulnerable and offering sensible advice to the public. This resulted in the following.
Contrary to the SAGE modelled predictions of massive surges in deaths and overwhelmed hospitals, they had a death rate 20% lower than the UK: 1,400 per million in Florida compared to 1,781 per million in the UK, lower than the US average. Case rates followed a similar pattern to that of the UK, peaking in January and subsequently falling sharply, despite having no meaningful restrictions in place.
Compared to the UK, Florida has been a major success. Children’s education has not been sacrificed this autumn and winter, unemployment is low because businesses have been operating freely. The economy is thriving: it only contracted 2.4% in 2020 compared to 10% in the UK and is already back at pre pandemic levels. The civil liberties of Florida’s citizens have been restored.
Florida has an older population than the UK with a median age of 42 compared to the UK median of 40. It has a similar population density, a more urban population distribution (87.7% vs 83.7% urban), worse metabolic health and has had community transmission of the Kent variant since at least December. Other than the warmer climate in Florida, on paper the UK should have performed better, not worse. This is why it is perhaps a better comparison for the UK than say Sweden or South Dakota, which have more differences in population demographics.
Over 30% of the UK adult population has now received at least one dose of a vaccine, including our most vulnerable groups. We also have more population immunity from prior infection than Florida had in September and we are now coming into summer, when coronaviruses typically recede. Data now suggests that vaccines can reduce the chance of hospitalisation and death by around 90%. Yet we are still being told we need to continue the damaging restrictions for months longer. Florida managed fine with no vaccine and less natural immunity. Why would it be any different in the UK when our most vulnerable groups, who account for 88% of deaths and most hospitalisations, plus all NHS and care staff, have already been vaccinated and by April groups accounting for 99% of deaths will have too?
MPs owe their constituents an explanation for why we are following the SAGE path of at least four months more restrictions, when despite following their advice we have higher death rates than Florida, which did not? MPs need to explain why we are not switching to the approach proposed by Florida’s team from Stanford and Harvard, which was right about what would happen in Florida without restrictions this winter when SAGE was wrong again.
The website Write To Them makes it easy to email your MP. As the coronavirus endgame staggers forward, let’s keep the pressure on.
Stop Press: The UK has one of the strictest lockdowns in the world according to Oxford University’s Coronavirus Response Tracker, the Mail reports. Only Ireland has harsher measures, having ceased construction. Worth bearing mind though that the Blavatnik School’s stringency index has been criticised for not distinguishing between mandatory and voluntary measures, which is why it ranks Sweden’s response as among the most stringent. It also does not distinguish between states in the US.
Neil Ferguson Writes Again…

And so to our now regular slot where we feature the latest missive that Professor Lockdown has sent to an intrepid Lockdown Sceptics reader who has dared to write to him with facts. The latest is a cracker. Derek Winton, the software developer who wrote the original article for us on Saturday criticising the Imperial model, kept his email succinct and reiterated to Prof Ferguson the points he had made in his piece, but to which no response has yet appeared. Predictably, Ferguson did not respond to any of them, but did give a prickly reply.
Dear Professor Ferguson,
I wrote the article recently published on Lockdown Sceptics entitled “The Imperial Model and its Role in the UK’s Pandemic Response”. It would have been polite to give you a chance to respond to the article before publishing. I did not do that and for that I apologise. I write this email to give you the opportunity to rebut my claims. Please be aware that I intend to publish any reply.
I made eight substantive claims in the article, along with supporting evidence, upon which my conclusion was based. Having read your correspondence with other parties it does not appear that you have directly contested any of those claims. I’ll summarise them here:
- The Imperial model was influential in the decision to pursue a lockdown strategy.
- The research for “Report 9” was not peer reviewed.
- The model was not documented.
- You appear to have no formal training in computer modelling, medicine or epidemiology.
- Projections of death tolls from your team in previous epidemics had been out by several orders of magnitude.
- The code was of poor quality from a legibility stand point.
- The model is an attempt to model a highly complex (and therefore highly sensitive) system but omits at least one key variable.
- Projections based on the Imperial model for Sweden were out by a factor of seven and therefore the model was not fit for purpose.
Which, if any, of these claims are incorrect?
In anticipation of your response to point 8, I did notice you have stated that “no-one ran the Imperial model for Sweden (other than us)”. If you did indeed model Sweden, what did you find? Will you publish those findings in full? How do you account for the sustained fall in infections and deaths in both the UK and Sweden that began last April, despite their different use of NPIs?
Sincerely,
Derek Winton
Came the reply:
Dear Derek,
Thank you for your email. I am not going to engage in responding to loaded and scientifically irrelevant questions. As I have stated previously (https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/lockdown-sceptics-are-distorting-the-science-xvzcm2sr5), policy decisions depended not on any single model, but on epidemiological characterisation of the virus and the implications for the health system and mortality. All models are simplified representations of reality and different scientists interpret data differently and make different assumptions – which is why the UK government never relies on a [sic] one alone.
I am aware you and the readers of Lockdown Sceptics are convinced that lockdown measures have been unnecessary or at least disproportionate. The latter – whether controlling COVID spread has been worth the costs of lockdown – is a valid issue to be debated, as I’ve previously said. But it’s not really a scientific issue. I realise you are trying to make it so, but I think that 120 thousand deaths has provided quite conclusive if tragic evidence that the science which has underpinned the assessment of the public health risks by COVID is valid.
I’m afraid the “motivated reasoning” indulged in on Lockdown Sceptics means that you are never going to compete with those (such as 99% of the scientific community) who dispassionately examine the data. Neil O’Brien’s cogent critique I think summarises the issues and the damage you and your fellow sceptics have caused: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jan/17/id-love-to-ignore-covid-sceptics-and-their-tall-tales-but-they-make-a-splash-and-have-no-shame
If you want to actually persuade people, do some real research and publish it in scientific journals. Pure rhetoric, cherry-picking “evidence” and ad hominem attacks are never going to succeed.
Best wishes,
Neil
Stop Press: One Lockdown Sceptics reader thinks Prof Ferguson has backed the wrong horse in his admiration for China. He writes:
I noticed in his recent letter, posted on Lockdown Sceptics, Professor Fergusson is again drawing parallels with Chinese Communist Party’s (CCP) alleged success in controlling COVID-19 through harsh lockdowns. Reports from the ground in China tell a rather different story, which might be worth sharing on Lockdown Sceptics. Almost a year after the CCP claimed to have rid China of COVID-19, it seems the disease is still prevalent in China and the inhumanity of the lockdown measures exceed even what we experience: hardly something to be emulated. This view from China Uncensored tells the tale of a man who was literally starving because of lockdowns and then sent to prison for reporting the fact on social media. Similar stories can be found here and here.
SAGE Models Are GIGO – Garbage In, Garbage Out

Erstwhile sceptic Christopher Snowdon may have crossed the aisle of late to become a lockdown enthusiast and Toby’s sparring partner – they’re in action again today, head-to-head in a pre-recorded debate on talkRADIO, more details tomorrow – but he hasn’t entirely lost his critical faculties when it comes to SAGE BS. He regards the vaccines as the way out of the crisis, and he is withering about the latest modelling from SAGE, which he thinks makes far too many pessimistic assumptions regarding the vaccination programme. He starts with the team from Warwick.
In their best case scenario, lockdown reduces R to 0.8 and three million vaccines are delivered each week from February (with one million a week delivered in January). Lockdown ends on February 22nd and all NPIs are dropped by July. This means that everybody who wants a vaccine has had one (or, indeed, two) by the summer. The authors nevertheless predict that England will see 2,000 deaths per day in August. If the vaccines don’t work as well as expected, this rises to nearly 5,000 per day.
I am only an interested amateur and am happy to be put straight, but WTF?!? Last August, when there was no vaccine and minimal NPIs, England had about eight deaths a day. At the height of the winter second wave, it had 1,238 deaths (January 19th). 5,000 deaths per day is more than 70 per million. Even the worst hit countries such as Belgium and Czechia never got above 30 per million at the height of their epidemics. And yet these guys think that it could far exceed that in Britain in the summer after the vaccines have been fully rolled out. Even in their best case scenario, there would still be 1,000 deaths a day.
When your model gives you such an implausible result, you have to question your assumptions. So what are they?
According to the brief text, the authors expect all these deaths to come about because some people will refuse to take the vaccine and some people who take the vaccine won’t be protected.
“Uptake: Throughout we assume 95% uptake in care homes, 85% in the general population above 50 and 75% in adults below 50 for the first dose. This drops to 75% for the over 50s and 66% for the under 50s for the second dose.”
People aged under 50 are almost irrelevant in terms of Covid mortality so the figure to focus on is 85%. Here are their assumptions about protection against symptomatic disease:
“Efficacy: We sub-divide into the effects of protection against symptoms (disease efficacy) and reduction in transmission – we assume that transmission blocking acts by stopping infection. Disease efficacy is taken as 70% and 88% after dose one rising to 88% and 94% after dose two for the Oxford and Pfizer vaccine respectively. Transmission efficacy is taken to be 48% rising to 60% for both. Protection is lagged by 14 days after the dose is delivered.”
This roughly reflects what the trials have shown us about these vaccines.
The authors don’t provide a figure for the total number of deaths in their projected third wave, but it looks around twice as bad as the second wave which has killed about 60,000 people in England and will probably end up killing around 75,000. So, as a very rough estimate, they’re suggesting there will be 150,000 deaths after everybody who wants a vaccine has had one. That’s more than all the deaths we’ve had already. Unsurprisingly, the authors call for the Government to hold back on relaxing lockdown, although quite what this would achieve is unclear: the lesson of the study is that COVID-19 will get us all eventually.
Imperial have also done some modelling. This study was produced on January 14th, the day after Warwick’s. It makes exactly the same assumptions about transmission efficacy and disease efficacy. Unlike Warwick, they assume vaccine uptake is 85% across all age groups. They assume that NPIs are gradually lifted on the first day of each month but do not say which ones. As with Warwick, all NPIs are lifted by July 1st.
The assumptions are therefore very similar and the conclusions are only slightly less gloomy. Like Warwick, they predict a massive summer wave and 130,800 dead even under their most optimistic scenario.
He spies two problems.
Firstly, both models underestimate how many people will take the vaccine. So far, 91% of the 80+ cohort have taken it and 96% of those aged 75-79 have taken it. That’s a lot more than 85% assumed in these models.
Secondly, and more importantly, the estimates of disease efficacy (the reduction in risk of getting symptomatic disease) are roughy correct, but the authors seem to have overlooked the crucial point about the AstraZeneca vaccine which is that there were “no severe cases and no hospitalisations” in the trials. The vaccine seems to be 100% effective in preventing death from COVID-19. The Pfizer vaccine is 95% effective in preventing symptomatic disease altogether, so the number of deaths that would occur among the cohort who take it would, presumably, be very low (in Israel, there were four severe cases and no deaths among 523,000 vaccinated people).
It is incredible that neither study factors in the effect of the vaccines on severe disease and mortality. You can forgive them for not predicting that so many people would take up the vaccines, but we’ve known about the AZ vaccine’s ability to prevent severe disease and death since November.
Worth reading in full. He expands his argument in this Twitter thread. And also in the Telegraph.
As sceptics we would want to add a few more problems to the list. We’d ask why seasonality is ignored and mass deaths are predicted in the height of summer, despite almost zero Covid last year with few restrictions and no vaccines. We’d wonder why prior infections, innate immunity and cross T-cell immunity from other coronaviruses are ignored, and why the IFR is so high compared to those estimated by the WHO and CDC.
So many poor assumptions. As the Americans say, Garbage In, Garbage Out.
Stop Press: Dr Anthony Fauci, head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases in America, declared on Monday during a White House COVID-19 press briefing that people who are vaccinated against COVID-19 still shouldn’t dine indoors at restaurants or go to cinemas “because of the safety of society”. This is despite the positive cases in the country continuing to decline. They do seem to be missing the point of the vaccine, don’t they?
Stop Press 2: CRG chair Mark Harper has tweeted his questions about the dubious modelling assumptions.
The Most Chilling Sentence in the Roadmap

Steve Sieff from GreenBandRedBand has got in touch to say he thinks we overlooked the worst part of the roadmap. He explains here.
I am one of the three who has read the roadmap in full. For me the most chilling paragraph is one you didn’t quote (emphasis mine).
64. For these reasons, a significant proportion of the population could still be infected, either because they have not been vaccinated or because the vaccine is not effective for them. … This could mean that some measures to limit transmission are still needed after all adults have been offered a vaccine. These could include guidance such as “hands, face, space”, maintaining the Test, Trace and Isolate system and controls at the border… The extent to which such measures will be required after all adults have been vaccinated is still unknown. …the Government is exploring what measures may be required.
I also note that although the document makes several references to the various harms caused by the restrictions, it does not include within those harms the basic objection that all of the measures taken reduce our ability to live freely. Even for the ‘lucky’ individuals who have not been physically or mentally affected by the ongoing measures, restrictions on freedom should still be seen as a last resort where no other answer is available. One of the stated aims of the Government in the roadmap is “to restore freedoms sustainably, equitably and as quickly as possible” but in the context of the whole document it feels very much like that is the very bottom of the priority list.
So on the plus side we have the idea that Zero Covid is not realistic. That is a big relief for sure. But on the negative we have a painfully slow re-opening, none of which is guaranteed, with the most far-reaching changes being subject to further reviews. No doubt these reviews will be carried out by… SAGE.
There is also an increase in use of face coverings by one of the groups least likely to be affected (schoolchildren), the clear acknowledgement that vaccine passports for international travel will be required and the concession that some form of immunity certificate might well be used domestically. We also have a long term plan based heavily on continued testing of asymptomatic people with the aim of heavy enforcement of local outbreaks. Possibly also the longer term continuation of distancing and masks to some extent. So I cannot help but read this document as a map to the dreaded ‘new normal’ and a nail in the coffin of pre-Covid freedoms. Covid will be endemic and comparable to flu, but we will be expected – on pain of criminal sanction – to continue with measures which exceed any reasonable assessment of the risk which will remain.
One other small point. As you are aware, there is still no legislation obliging schools to close. It was Government advice during the first lockdown and the same approach was taken with the current lockdown. The wording of the roadmap hints that the face masks in schools changes may also be by way of recommendation rather than obligation. It may not make any difference to schools who feel obliged to comply, but it would be marginally better than making them mandatory by law (emphasis mine).
92. The Government also recommends that the use of face coverings in Higher Education, Further Education and secondary schools is extended for a limited period to all indoor environments – including classrooms – unless 2m social distancing can be maintained. Face coverings are now also recommended in early years and primary schools for staff and adult visitors in situations where social distancing between adults is not possible, for example, when moving around in corridors and communal areas.
Secondary School Confirms Children Will Not Wear Masks in Classroom Despite Government Recommendation
A Lockdown Sceptics reader has written to us to say she wrote to the head of her child’s school and received a quick reply confirming that they do not plan to introduce masks into classrooms and will keep things as they were last term. She has given us permission to publish the email she wrote in case any Lockdown Sceptics readers wish to use it as inspiration or a template for their own email.
I am deeply concerned about the new Government “recommendation”, that children will have to increase their wearing of face masks, including in lessons and classrooms, which would effectively result in up to eight hours of mask-wearing a day for healthy children. From my previous emails you will be aware of my deep reservations about the usefulness of face masks and concerns about the harm to physical and psychological health from wearing them for long periods of time, especially in children. I cannot understand why a mass testing scheme is being rolled out in schools twice a week, which will guarantee that all the healthy, asymptomatic children in schools do not have COVID-19, yet they are being asked to behave as if they have symptomatic, infectious COVID-19. This is encouraging a pathological germ phobia and obsession, as well as blocking healthy social interactions and impeding communication. School will no longer feel like a safe place for children.
I believe this has now reached the point of insanity that it has become a serious safeguarding and child protection issue, as it will have serious detrimental effects on children’s mental, educational, and physical well-being. The Government have not published a risk assessment of this ill-thought out policy and I pray that school leaders will now stand up and protect the children in their care against this abuse of power and abusive policy. Reading the documentation, it has been left up to schools to decide whether to implement this policy as it is a “recommendation” – I urge you to stand firm and not extend the mask-wearing at ***** school beyond the requirements set last term.
To help with your own risk assessment, I urge you to read an Open Letter that the UK Medical Freedom Alliance (UKMFA), sent to Government Ministers a couple of weeks ago, regarding the current face covering mandates in the UK. They are requesting an urgent and permanent revoking of all mandates for children under 18 years, and a switch to the voluntary use of face coverings in adults, unless or until a full ‘risk vs benefit’ assessment is published which demonstrates that the benefits are significant and far outweigh the harms. They present and reference comprehensive scientific evidence showing that face masks cause serious harm in children, and that there is no evidence that they prevent transmission of the virus, especially in healthy, asymptomatic people. Of particular note was a recent German study of over 25,000 children – the only published study looking at the impact of mask-wearing on children – and the results were horrifying. Impairments to children, caused by wearing face masks, were reported by 68% of the parents. This included irritability (60%), headache (53%), difficulty concentrating (50%), less happiness (49%), reluctance to go to school/kindergarten (44%), malaise (42%) impaired learning (38%) and drowsiness or fatigue (37%).
We already know that one in four teenagers have contemplated suicide over the last few months and many more are struggling with anxiety, OCD, eating disorders, self-harm and depression as a result of the draconian restrictions on their social and educational development. Blighting their return to school with an inhuman requirement to wear masks for many hours a day will no doubt tip many of these children over the edge into despair.
I understand that you will be under pressure from many directions, but I hope that you will keep a sense of proportionality and perspective and put your duty of care to the children above political and societal pressures to conform. If this policy were to go ahead the only way that my children could come back to school is with mask exemptions as they both experience chest pains, panic, anxiety, and breathing issues when wearing a mask. But this would bring its own issues of social exclusion and fears of bullying for being the ‘odd ones out’. It may be that they would not feel able to return to school at all until these restrictions were lifted.
Who’s Getting Rich Off all this School Testing?

A Lockdown Sceptics reader emailed us to ask why no one is talking about the cost of all the mass testing in schools, and who is getting paid for it.
Perhaps I’ve missed it, but nobody seems to be talking about the cost and who is getting paid for all the school testing?
I wandered around the internet a bit looking at articles, for instance, this one from Schools Week. They are all pretty much the same:
“Returning secondary pupils will be tested three times on site and then again once at home in the first two weeks after reopening. They will then be provided with home kits for twice weekly testing thereafter.”
Who is getting paid for all of this? There must be laboratories and companies all over the place rubbing their hands with glee?
How long is it expected to go on for?
I can see this costing more than the furlough payments and business loans.
The last time I had to pay for a test at Boots it cost £120. Obviously, the Government won’t be paying this much (well I hope not).
Even if it is only £50 a test at bulk rates/discount prices for the Government, that still approaches £1,300 per child per term.
And when they pivot into testing at home, how many people are going to do it properly, how many people are going to wilfully provide a negative result (by sticking it under the tap) because they can’t afford to isolate and other such issues?
I listened to an interview with Andy Burnham on talkRADIO this morning and he mentioned at least a thousand families in his city tested positive on a regular basis but could not afford to isolate.
Obviously, that figure extrapolated across the whole country really begins to add up.
I suspect that the Government will be forced (because it’s a vote winner) into providing more support for families forced to isolate, thus providing an incentive in some cases to provide a false positive test.
It’s really like they never want to let us out properly – a great excuse to continue with vaccine passports and Covid certificates.
I just can’t get it into my head. All the ministers spent the last month and a half telling us there would never be a need for vaccine passports but again it seems that they were foreshadowing it in some way by mentioning them, and then finding the excuse to say “oh we need to change our mind because of the massive positive rate in children” or some other emotional blackmail like that.
COVID-19 Behaves Like the Flu

Today we’re publishing an original piece by an academic economist looking at how this winter compares to an ordinary flu season. His prediction that the Government would claim credit for the perfectly normal January decline of the seasonal virus has come to pass, he says.
In my previous piece for this site, I floated what I called “the flu hypothesis”. My idea was to treat COVID-19 like the flu in order to predict how it might behave. From here, we could get a sense of how Government policy might respond. This was based on the assumption that the Government policies did not really have any impact on the trajectory of the disease. So, whether the Government response ended up looking like a success or failure all depended on how the virus behaved on its own terms.
What I found was that there were two types of flu season. One was more ‘gradual’. It tended to rise slowly at the start of the year, through January and February and into March. The other type was sharper and more ‘aggressive’. This type of flu season tended to spike early, around the first week of January, and burn out quicker.
Since the Government launched its lockdown policy at the start of January, I pointed out that if COVID-19 behaved like a ‘gradual’ flu season the policy would look like a failure. If, on the other hand, COVID-19 behaved like a more ‘aggressive’ flu season then it would look like it was the Government causing the decline due to their policy
How did things turn out?
To find out, read it in full here.
A Family Note

Following Guy de la Bédoyère’s note yesterday about his sad family news, a reader has written with some of her own.
I read the piece about the sad death of Guy de la Bédoyère’s mother-in-law at her care home and wanted to add my own family’s tragic tale. I want to do this because the many people who have been responsible for the response to the pandemic must hear of the tragedies that have resulted.
Many organisations have asked for families to be included in the regular testing in care homes and it is looking likely this may be put in place later in March but it is nearly 12 months that residents and families have been kept apart and is too late for many with devastating consequences.
My own father is on end-of-life care at his care home and we have been allowed to visit him in person for the past 10 days. Prior to this, since March 12th when care homes were told to prevent family visits, he has had visits from his family only through locked double glazed patio doors, with the aid of mobile phones to communicate.
My father does have dementia and it has been heartbreaking watching him decline for the past year and not to be able to support him in the way we would have wished to do so. Prior to being locked out of his care home my father had a visit from one of us on six days of every week. We helped him with feeding, cut his hair and nails, helped him to shave, took him out in his wheelchair in the local park where he chatted to people who lived locally and were a connection to his past life.
During the past long 12 months we have sat outside the locked patio doors in rain and shine. In the rain my father could not understand why we would not come inside, he pleaded with us to please come inside. As he deteriorated we were unable to help him hold his cup or locate a biscuit. He sometimes offered us the cup asking if we could put it on the table. We couldn’t help him and had to explain the double glazing between us. This situation has devastated us, we have struggled with anxiety, guilt, sadness, anger and depression, lack of concentration and poor motivation. We have asked ourselves how we will forgive ourselves for not being there for him in his last year of life and what our dead Mother, his wife of 60 years, would have thought of us letting him down in this terrible way. As Guy says, it will be very hard for us to come to terms with what we have all lost.
My father is now in the last few days of his life and we are grateful that the care home allowed us to be with him while he could still enjoy our company and we could care for him, offer him drinks and food he likes. His condition is such that he does not really know we have not been there for him in the way we would have wished to be for almost a year. That is something we must try to take some small comfort from.
COVID-1984

A reader has revisited Orwell’s 1948 classic and been inspired to think up some Party slogans of his own.
Forty-four years since it was my O-level text I have just revisited Orwell’s 1984. The book has, not surprisingly, had a bit of a resurgence in recent times.
It is so much more harrowing to read as an older and wiser adult, and I reckon it should be required reading for anyone who’s not yet sceptical about lockdown and the interference in our personal lives.
Imagine a world where the Party rules by the constant repetition of self-contradictory slogans?
WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTHJust imagine.
The Party slogans got me thinking about ones that might fit closer to home.
ISOLATION IS FELLOWSHIP
HARMING HEALTH IS PROTECTING HEALTH SERVICES
DESTROYING LIVES IS SAVING LIVES
INCARCERATION IS SAFETY
If any readers have any more suggestions, email us here.
Round-up
- “Why I Believe that Covid Derangement Syndrome Is Real” – Donald J. Bordreaux on the AIER blog says the syndrome poses “a dangerous risk to humanity that dwarfs the risk posed by SARS-CoV-2”
- “Making pupils wear masks is pointless and cruel” – Alex Starling in Reaction says “those that dreamt this guidance up should be relieved of any ‘duties’ they may be performing at taxpayer’s expense. Those that enforce this guidance should be eternally ashamed of themselves”
- “NHS app to be converted for vaccine passports” – Disturbing insight in the Times into Michael Gove’s review into issues relating to vaccine passports
- “It’s time to let us hug who we want whenever we damn well please” – The latest from Allison Pearson in the Telegraph
- “‘A pandemic of abuses’: human rights under attack during Covid, says UN head” – Guardian report on the comments by UN Secretary General António Guterres writing elsewhere in the paper
- “Do not rollout Covid-19 vaccine passports” – Sign the petition to Parliament – now over 185,000 signatures
- “NICE, Vitamin D and COVID-19” – Dr Zoe Harcombe takes a closer look at the rapid review of vitamin D by the National Institute for Care and Health Excellence (NICE) in December, which concluded that all the evidence was of “very low” quality, and then proceeds to take it apart
- “Never mind the Government’s ‘four tests’. Here are my four tests for freedom” – James Black in Bournbrook sets out some criteria of his own for “knowing if freedom has in fact been restored”
- “The Covid Chronicles” – Lockdown Sceptics reader Antonia Rolls has put together a spoof tabloid newspaper. Enjoy
- “Lockdown? What Lockdown?” – Check out the new website a Lockdown Sceptics reader has set up to share stories of people getting out and about despite the lockdown
- “Lockdown Policies: Doing More Harm Than Good?” – Watch Dr Oliver Robinson, Associate Professor of Psychology at the University of Greenwich, deliver his recent lecture
- “The Rocky Road” – In Episode 21 of the Real Normal Podcast the boys discuss the plan for recovery and the lifting of lockdown
- “Pandemic: A year of mistakes?” – Catch the event today at 5:30pm to mark the publication of the latest John Mair edited collection with Toby, Rod Liddle and other contributors. Tickets here
- “Why can’t we unlock more quickly?” – Nick Triggle looks at what lies behind the Government’s thinking for the BBC
- “Chair urges Cabinet not to shy away from scrutiny” – Matt Hancock and Michael Gove have formally declined the invitation from the House of Commons Public Administration Committee to give evidence on the data underpinning Covid-19 decisions. The chair, William Wragg, has released a statement saying they are “extremely disappointed”
- “Facebook Apologises After the Free Speech Union organised a powerful coalition of MPs and peers to sign a letter to Nick Clegg objecting to Facebook’s advertising ban on a unionist think tank” – Another victory for the FSU
Theme Tunes Suggested by Readers
Six today: “We’ll Meet Again” by Johnny Cash, “Everybody Get Together” by Dave Clark Five, “Ain’t Living Long Like This” Waylon Jennings, “Road to Nowhere” by Talking Heads, “How Long Has This Been Going On?” by Sarah Vaughan and “Little Lies” by Fleetwood Mac.
Love in the Time of Covid

We have created some Lockdown Sceptics Forums, including a dating forum called “Love in a Covid Climate” that has attracted a bit of attention. We have a team of moderators in place to remove spam and deal with the trolls, but sometimes it takes a little while so please bear with us. You have to register to use the Forums as well as post comments below the line, but that should just be a one-time thing. Any problems, email Lockdown Sceptics here.
Sharing Stories
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Woke Gobbledegook

We’ve decided to create a permanent slot down here for woke gobbledegook. Today, it’s “Britain’s wokest headteacher”, who was all too ready to abandon English historical figures in favour of people with nothing to do with English history when a solitary complaint arrived last year. Melanie McDonagh in the Spectator has more.
Ah, a story for our times. And I think you know how it’s going to go. There was this junior school in Yorkshire which had houses named after various figures in English history: Francis Drake, Sir Walter Raleigh, Lord Nelson. And then? You can take it from here.
Some very agitated pupils got together and sent round a petition which frightened the headteacher so much that he renamed the houses?
Well, you’d be right except for one thing. It only takes one really annoying person to write the Great Men out of a school; that and a suggestible head teacher, one Lee Hill, who posts school news on Twitter with a picture that shows off his extensive arm tattoos, posing with a takeaway coffee. But if you are going to rewrite history, for goodness’ sake make sure you get the history right
Mr Hill – who has been described as Britain’s ‘wokest’ headteacher – says that:
“During the Black Lives Matter protests, I received a passionate and brave email from a former pupil. This pupil not only educated me about the history of the three house names – that sat on our website, in our hall and were raised as ambassadors for our school – but also explained the impact of seeing these figures – who have links to slavery, oppression and racism – had on her during her time at our school. Not only a brave email to send to a white male in a position of power but also an email that set off a chain of events.“
Actually, the bit suggesting a teacher with tattoos is an authority figure does make you laugh. You wish, mate. But it says quite a lot about where we’re at that a) it takes only one former pupil to say she was upset to see white males with associations she doesn’t find congenial to cause a school figuratively to topple its statues; and b) a school head who doesn’t appear to know much about Drake, Raleigh and Nelson. You’d think that for his pioneering work promoting tobacco alone, Raleigh would be immortal. But nope, it seems not.
Worth reading in full.
“Mask Exempt” Lanyards

We’ve created a one-stop shop down here for people who want to obtain a “Mask Exempt” lanyard/card – because wearing a mask causes them “severe distress”, for instance. You can print out and laminate a fairly standard one for free here and the Government has instructions on how to download an official “Mask Exempt” notice to put on your phone here. And if you feel obliged to wear a mask but want to signal your disapproval of having to do so, you can get a “sexy world” mask with the Swedish flag on it here.
A reader has started a website that contains some useful guidance about how you can claim legal exemption. Another reader has created an Android app which displays “I am exempt from wearing a face mask” on your phone. Only 99p.
If you’re a shop owner and you want to let your customers know you will not be insisting on face masks or asking them what their reasons for exemption are, you can download a friendly sign to stick in your window here.
And here’s an excellent piece about the ineffectiveness of masks by a Roger W. Koops, who has a doctorate in organic chemistry. See also the Swiss Doctor’s thorough review of the scientific evidence here and Prof Carl Heneghan and Dr Tom Jefferson’s Spectator article about the Danish mask study here.
The Great Barrington Declaration

The Great Barrington Declaration, a petition started by Professor Martin Kulldorff, Professor Sunetra Gupta and Professor Jay Bhattacharya calling for a strategy of “Focused Protection” (protect the elderly and the vulnerable and let everyone else get on with life), was launched in October and the lockdown zealots have been doing their best to discredit it ever since. If you googled it a week after launch, the top hits were three smear pieces from the Guardian, including: “Herd immunity letter signed by fake experts including ‘Dr Johnny Bananas’.” (Freddie Sayers at UnHerd warned us about this the day before it appeared.) On the bright side, Google UK has stopped shadow banning it, so the actual Declaration now tops the search results – and Toby’s Spectator piece about the attempt to suppress it is among the top hits – although discussion of it has been censored by Reddit. In February, Facebook deleted the GBD’s page because it “goes against our community standards”. The reason the zealots hate it, of course, is that it gives the lie to their claim that “the science” only supports their strategy. These three scientists are every bit as eminent – more eminent – than the pro-lockdown fanatics so expect no let up in the attacks. (Wikipedia has also done a smear job.)
You can find it here. Please sign it. Now over three quarters of a million signatures.
Update: The authors of the GBD have expanded the FAQs to deal with some of the arguments and smears that have been made against their proposal. Worth reading in full.
Update 2: Many of the signatories of the Great Barrington Declaration are involved with new UK anti-lockdown campaign Recovery. Find out more and join here.
Update 3: You can watch Sunetra Gupta set out the case for “Focused Protection” here and Jay Bhattacharya make it here.
Update 4: The three GBD authors plus Prof Carl Heneghan of CEBM have launched a new website collateralglobal.org, “a global repository for research into the collateral effects of the COVID-19 lockdown measures”. Follow Collateral Global on Twitter here. Sign up to the newsletter here.
Judicial Reviews Against the Government

There are now so many legal cases being brought against the Government and its ministers we thought we’d include them all in one place down here.
The Simon Dolan case has now reached the end of the road. The current lead case is the Robin Tilbrook case which challenges whether the Lockdown Regulations are constitutional, although that case, too, has been refused permission to proceed. There’s still one more thing that can be tried. You can read about that and contribute here.
The GoodLawProject and three MPs – Debbie Abrahams, Caroline Lucas and Layla Moran – brought a Judicial Review against Matt Hancock for failing to publish details of lucrative contracts awarded by his department and it was upheld. The Court ruled Hancock had acted unlawfully.
Then there’s John’s Campaign which is focused specifically on care homes. Find out more about that here.
There’s the GoodLawProject and Runnymede Trust’s Judicial Review of the Government’s award of lucrative PPE contracts to various private companies. You can find out more about that here and contribute to the crowdfunder here.
Scottish Church leaders from a range of Christian denominations have launched legal action, supported by the Christian Legal Centre against the Scottish Government’s attempt to close churches in Scotland for the first time since the the Stuart kings in the 17th century. The church leaders emphasised it is a disproportionate step, and one which has serious implications for freedom of religion.” Further information available here.
There’s the class action lawsuit being brought by Dr Reiner Fuellmich and his team in various countries against “the manufacturers and sellers of the defective product, PCR tests”. Dr Fuellmich explains the lawsuit in this video. Dr Fuellmich has also served cease and desist papers on Professor Christian Drosten, co-author of the Corman-Drosten paper which was the first and WHO-recommended PCR protocol for detection of SARS-CoV-2. That paper, which was pivotal to the roll out of mass PCR testing, was submitted to the journal Eurosurveillance on January 21st and accepted following peer review on January 22nd. The paper has been critically reviewed here by Pieter Borger and colleagues, who also submitted a retraction request, which was rejected in February.
And last but not least there was the Free Speech Union‘s challenge to Ofcom over its ‘coronavirus guidance’. A High Court judge refused permission for the FSU’s judicial review on December 9th and the FSU has decided not to appeal the decision because Ofcom has conceded most of the points it was making. Check here for details.
Samaritans

If you are struggling to cope, please call Samaritans for free on 116 123 (UK and ROI), email jo@samaritans.org or visit the Samaritans website to find details of your nearest branch. Samaritans is available round the clock, every single day of the year, providing a safe place for anyone struggling to cope, whoever they are, however they feel, whatever life has done to them.
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And Finally…
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You couldn’t make it up Covid sufferer, 45, only realised she had been infected with the virus when large clumps of her hair started falling out
WOW the thumbs down trolls are up early.
Not me guv, I reckon it was because you initially posted a link with no other text which was perceived as being a thinly veiled attempt to be the first poster of the day.
I’m on unpaid leave this week (my employer’s ingenious pay cut by the back door), hence my unusual presence in the early comments of a fresh midweek post.
How China tricked Italy then the World into lockdowns
Ivor Cummins – the Scientific History of Lockdowns – Part 3. What Really Happened!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzVnjgMBDVQ&list=WL&index=18
Does THE Lockdown Sceptic, ever comment?
Yes I do. here’s a comment for you. Every time I see one of those Covid Marshalls in their olive green uniforms and masks the word “Covidiot” pops into my brain.
Also Johnson’s hold power is weaker than it seems. Once the full economic horror of his lockdown is clear … even his idiot MPs would want drop Blo J and his CCP girlfriend.
Covidiot?
Your financial loss is our gain!
77th Brigade works tirelessly 24/7. It makes you proud to be British.
Horror, horror, horror!
My OH has been bald for twenty-five years. Has Covvie really been lurking in my midst for. quarter of a century and I never knew it?
Gaslighting Herd Immunity
tonyheller
https://rumble.com/ve20w5-gaslighting-herd-immunity.html
has he tried rubbing marmite. Hang on, have I just discovered a cure for covid?
Ah! That’s where I’ve been going wrong then!
I’ve only ever put it on toast (and a few other food items) and made a drink from it!
A full bushy head of hair soon, just hope it doesn’t make me look like that bloke at number 10………
I’m not wasting good marmite on his bald head.
I was contemplating shaving my hair off as haircuts so far off but won’t now as don’t want to be viewed as a viral vector.
I got a friend to clip mine. I am due for another haircut, perhaps next week. Perhaps in May/June I will go to a barber!
Funny that I read ‘Covvie’ as ‘Commie’. Both the same thing at the end of the day.
Here’s a theory for deep thinkers. Instead of labelling it Covid like every other condition now, how about how you look at young females who exhibit higher stress and worry in relation to Covid.
Hair loss due to SAGE fear mongering maybe?
https://bmjopen.bmj.com/content/10/9/e040620?rss=1
Crikey how much did she get paid for saying that?
The only roadmap out of this hell will be that which we create for ourselves.
If we wait for our leadership to grant us back our freedoms, which were never theirs to take in the first place, we will be waiting for eternity.
6th March M8, mass supermarket unmasking!
Why do people wait for March. Start today.
Surely you can work that out. Have you no brain?
Excellent we must do it
Cheers Janette. Love you!
That’s my birthday so let it happen and be a tidal wave of civil disobedience that sweeps the country. I am asthmatic so have never worn a face mask in shops or buses.My wife who does wear masks got covid she coughed on me while isolating and still I and my daughter’s never got covid. If covid is so deadly why didn’t we get infected where not superhuman as I believe most households who got covid have had similar experience. Lastly my wife recovered an says it’s no worse than flu and in fact says she’s had flu in the past that was far worse.
Oooooo that’ll show them!! lol
Despite the jubilation (in parts) ATL, I believe the roadmap is designed to fail. The most telling thing is the mass testing of school children. This will inevitably generate a huge wave of ‘new infections among children’ (they’ll no doubt call it a mutant strain) and they’ll use this as an excuse to realign their focus on children instead of pensioners/vulnerable.
We may see targeted vaccination on children instead of adults and another national lockdown/tier system. This could happen even before lockdown has been lifted.
All parents should refuse the testing of their children if they don’t have symptoms. If schools refuse to take the children then legal action should be taken,after all we all pay taxes so out children have a right to education. We must all fight lockdown in whatever way we can otherwise the pandemic will continue creating mutant strains for years to come.
Yes Derek, right on! If my daughter was still school age she would NOT be wearing a mask. If that is a problem for the school I would take her out of school. The psychology damage this shit is doing to our kids is terrible. That’s before you tot up the damage of breathing through a disease and bacteria ridden rag over your mouth all day!
wouldn’t the answer appear to be the setting up of “Free Schools” where the kids were taught in person, by a teacher [not a parent], in the classroom, without the need for a test when they have no symptoms, and without requiring them to wear a mask or socially distance themselves? could I be on to something do you think???
I agree with your predictions. I was surprised that the ATL article implies that the roadmap is written in stone and “has…not included infections or case levels in its criteria”. I can’t quote him verbatim but I am sure that Johnson has constantly qualified the terms of the ‘roadmap’ by saying that “progressing to each stage will of course be dependent on the data available at the time”.
I agree that there will inevitably be a ‘disturbing increase in cases amongst schoolchildren’ and it will likely be indicative of a ‘variant which cannot be controlled by current vaccines’. (You and I know, of course, this is all nonsense but I am just humouring the protagonists.)
This will serve two purposes: first, it will pave the way for a push towards vaccinating children and second it will be a useful tool to keep in the armory of excuses should there be a serious increase in deaths amongst elderly and vulnerable following second ‘jabs’, which – purely coincidentally of course – coincide with the re-opening of schools and testing of the pupils.
I absolutely agree with you, I had already worked that one out. I am crossing my fingers for Dr Reiner Fuellmich or The Bernician to make some headway with their court cases.
they’d need to blinking hurry up!!!
I believe it’s designed so that it cannot fail. It’s so hedged that even if they throw us back into full lockdown in September (which they’ve reserved every right to do), they’ll be able to point at the roadmap and say “we did tell you it was contingent and we did our (very poor) best to avoid this, but here we are.”.
The key wording is when they say that this will be the last lockdown, but there’s “no guarantee”.
It’s the old Orwellian double speak once again.
By September I think the majority will be more clued up.
Was anyone else laughing their arse off when the fat pig dictator said we are following data and not dates. And then gave us three dates. What a twat. In other good news Gove says we will use the fantastic app for our vaccine passports. Hahahahahahahahahahahaha! Oh wait you were being serious?
Boris Johnson, Neil Fergusson, Patrick Vallance, Chris Whitty, Matt Hancock – they have blood on their hands! They shall never be forgotten and never be forgiven! Neither they, nor their families! They are selling us and our families down the river, they are stealing our freedom, and they are crippling our country. They shall never be forgotten and never be forgiven!
We all have blood on our hands. I accept full responsibility for not pushing back anything like as hard as I should have done in March 2020 when the insanity was descending. It is easy to pin the blame on public figures, but the harsh reality is that we allowed this nightmare to happen, and only we can provide the solution.
They are supposedly the leaders and they based their decisions on garbage data. They never tried to listen to us or to different opinion and they will never do it. Yes, we have our part but we are not the ones imposing lockdowns, we are not the ones ordering the police to act against us, we are not the ones lacking common sense, we are not the ones closing businesses, stopping traveling, or telling our children to wear mask and get vaxx. They wanted to be public figures, nobody forced them. We only asked them to listen to us and they completely ignored us and will ignore us going forward. We never asked for vaxx passport, we do not want them, and they continue to force these on us all.
The order givers can spout their mandates all day, every day until they are blue in the face. If the supposed order followers do not comply, there is nothing the order givers can do. They are outnumbered by millions to one. So ultimately we imposed lockdown and everything else upon ourselves. This is the teaching that is being presented to us, and will one way or the other be learned by everybody. If we collectively continue to refuse this teaching, then the levels of pain and suffering that will be inflicted in order to make us learn will outstrip any in human history.
Not ‘we’.
THEY. Sheeples, zombies, subhumans, bedwetters, trash.
We are also criminals for allowing what has happened with our level of knowledge. I will never forgive myself for this.
Have you been demanding totalitarian government be imposed on others? Have you been following their orders and helping to impose totalitarianism on others?
My conscience is clear – I have been opposing this from the start in every way I can. It has been utterly futile but I have learnt more about the people I knew in the last year then in the all the years before. Other then my wife and two children I no longer have a family – I will have nothing to do with these fascists ever again. I have only one friend left – again I will have nothing to do with these fascists.
Ultimately when you are one in a hundred willingly brainwashed zombies who care about nothing but themselves and every institution is compromised there is little you can do to change their direction immediately. That in itself does not make you complicit.
It’s hard maintaining the line, but it’s the only honourable thing to do.
Those that think that compliance is the answer will be sadly disappointed. We are all of us in the midst of a program of mass genocide.
I’m in similar boat – but its bloody lonely
But how could we not ‘allow’ it?
Ask that question of any Resistance movement. They never succeed without outside aid. But they save souls by the very fact of resisting.
Exactly! If court cases are stopped; if the media has been controlled; if our MPs won’t listen to reasoned arguments; if even charismatic leaders of the resistance are silenced: then how can we be deemed responsible? A ludicrous suggestion!
Yes, Annie! Exactly. We don’t feel like it’s much, but every individual act of defiance and resistance COUNTS. All of us who have pushed back in any small way have a clear conscience.
Amen, sir.
Saying no, is the only honourable option and of course compliance will prove futile.
And when we have no power, very little influence, and are subjected to a propaganda campaign that made Brexit Project Fear look amateurish, im not sure what any of us could have done to stop any of it.
As Lord Sumption (or might have been Peter Hitchens) has acknowledged, contacting the majority of MPs has achieved nothing. We get either a standard non-answer reply, or nothing at all.
The current administration has used emergency powers to bypass Parliament, and do pretty much as they please. There’s no General Election due or even the prospect of one for several years, so we can’t even vote the bastards out, and if we did, who would we vote in? Labour?
There won’t be another general election and as you say the opposition is very much part of the problem.
Like pursuing the chimera of Zero Covid. Yes indeed they are part of the problem.
Fod crying out loud man. This war isn’t half over yet and you’re having a Nuremburg internal monologue.
Pull yourself together, man.
Sitting at home enraged is still a form of compliance.
NO IT IS NOT!!! That is a chilling reminder of the BLM “silence is violence” – that stopped me in my tracks. We have not done NOTHING. We have done what we feel we can. And if all that is, is to disagree in our hearts and minds… that IS something!
Is it bollocks.
Order followers are the lowest form of humanity.
Just like the troops in 77th Brigade.
yes annie and CivilianNotCovidian , we are not sheep here we do resist even talking to strangers and friends even somehting a s small as a smile at someone wearing a
mask muzzle while we dont wear a mask is a small victory and keeps us sane too .
[ i did the upvote thing at first the one that blames us too[ i think it does anyway] but then i read the further comments – annie ,CivilianNotCovidian,a nd others and i feel so much better . ww2 wasnt won in a day its only been one year just 4 more to go!
refusing to get a vaccine[ i sure wont ] and talking to others [ i’ve talked to about 10 strangers/ friends /and famliy in the past week or so and told them not to get the vaccine ]
is also doing something and very easy to do,if stay away from the ones you know wont listen that is. but even that is finally changing
a friend of mine a true believer sis tarting to doubt the vaccines and masks !
dont give up
Tory MP Richard Fuller Calls Out Every MP For Allowing This https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/13.0.1/svg/1f4a9.svg Show & The Dangers We Now Face
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3BDf0z6Sks
vid has been removed
It works for me.
Ok works now
Brilliant! The fact that these words are spoken (and spoken well) in public, in Parliament, means that we have reason to hope.
Speak for yourself mate and the blame lies fairly and squarely where it belongs.
Don’t be too hard on yourself, it’s their fault not yours they had the power and they made the decision. You were powerless to stop them, that’s why they did it.
I pushed back. I hold my head up high. 16th March – BJ says, “don’t go to the pub but I won’t close the pubs”, I went to the pub EVERY day. 20th March – We are told, “stay home and socially distance”, I went on a weekend break to a nice hotel and danced with locals on the Friday night when they had to serve their last inside dining meals. 23rd March – We were told, “stay home and only go out once a day” – I went out at least 4-5 times a day, walking around Sainsbury’s touching everything. March – April: I lost friends and got told I was mad because I would NOT concede that this was all about a “virus”. April: I joined lockdown sceptics and started reading the Spectator and listening to voices of my staunch political opponents because they were the only ones speaking sense. May, June, July – mask mandates come in. I refuse to wear a mask and later in the year get verbally attacked by BTP on a train. June, July, August – I religiously refuse to give my real contact details to any establishment. August-September – I write to… Read more »
That January one hits me hard. I haven’t been able to wake my parents up and both of them are getting it. I’m worried but also incredibly angry with them. They should have been braver and they should have been more inquisitive to find out the truth.
I don’t think I’ll ever feel the same about other people again. I know I can’t trust them.
again, in similar boat, but my parents had bought into the project fear with bells on brainwashing and also had pressure brought to bear by grandchildren who were “worried about them” so they had it – they said they thought it “was the right thing to do – we all have to play our part” and that was in the face of me trying to tell them over and over that this is all a con, but they just couldn’t accept that the government would lie to them and my mum keeps telling me “but over 100,000 people are dead”. I tried – I really really tried.
You’ve done the right thing, the rest is up to them. I was in the same position with my 81 year old brother, who gets all his “news” from the Beeb and so he just wouldn’t listen to me. He’s a tired old man and it’s anything for a quiet life, so he’s been jabbed. Before too long he will likely find things very much quieter.
I have also emailed my MP and told him what I really think on numerous occasions. Never worn a nappy on my face and go about my business. Still alive too! Interesting you say family members being conned into taking experimental gene therapy – my own father just this week said I am delusional and irresponsible and that I have been conned by people, even cleverer than I am, apparently – when I say that I get my data from government/NHS/ONS sources he just cannot fathom what I am saying!
He was in the RAF too for 17 years and apparently has fought communism for even longer as a true conservative who beLIEves in democracy, so by me saying that we are in a communist state right now (actually more like fascism), again, he cannot fathom what I am saying!
Last March and April I felt so alone in my opinions. All around me people were excited about home schooling and producing daily planners, the weather was balmy and the paddling pools were out, there was talk of our world having a much needed rest and how we would come out of all this better. On the doorsteps each week the NHS were be hailed as our heroes and in every window a rainbow symbolised for many the hope of better days to come. I watched on in horror, seeing this through a Biblical lens and seeing where this would end. God was pushed to the side, churches were shut and the new Covidian religion was was welcomed in. It brought with it worship, symbolism, rituals, false hope, new leaders and finally their long awaited saviour (the vaccine). A year later things are going along much as I had dreamed in my worst nightmares. There is a difference though, this year I am not alone, this year WE are not alone. So much of this last year has been about divide and conquer, but we sceptics have come together in a common goal. We have a government intent on enslaving… Read more »
Wonderful post. This should be pinned.
You had me in tears.
I don’t even know what pinning posts is! I’m grateful for your comment though and it’s good to know my thoughts resonated with you.
I think the moderators do it.
Excellent and an example to us all.
It took a week or two for us, until we discovered Dr .Malcolm Kendricks concerns from the outset, as he was working in care homes, then discovering Lockdown Sceptics.
For approx. 20 years I’ve considered myself a political dissident (not a lefty or on the right) and have tried relentlessly to wake people up. Years ago I was warning that we were heading towards tyranny. I’ve spent years weaving through the bullshit spouted by the mainstream, the false opposition types like Icke, Info-Wars, Red Ice, Black Pidgeon, etc, while myself being constantly labelled a mad conspiracy theorist.
I’ve attended protests and witnessed blatant psyops. I’ve created memes and took part in crowd funding to support politically persecuted people.
In the early days of lockdown, on this site, I was still called stupid names for warning that the first lockdown was only the beginning and that this will go on for years because the general public will support it.
If I’d stuck my neck out any further over the years leading to this, I would have been one of those silenced political prisoners. You have to realise the limits to what you can achieve with protest.
Why do you say that David Icke is controlled opposition? Just interested.
It’s all about association, lack of direction, who pays him, etc.
Just a few: He was a spokesman for the Green Party, worked for the BBC, regularly features on the TV (who very rarely give air time to genuine opposition) and regularly works with the most obvious fake opposition, Alex Jones (funded by Time Warner last I checked).
I could go much further but I’m wary of how far to take this down the rabbit hole…
David Icke was predicting what’s happening now years ago and he was dead right.
Icke writes lots of books and sells them by the ton. He lectures to massive audiences the world over and people pay a decent sum to listen. However, you still you wonder where his money comes from. You also attempt to smear Icke by lumping him in with Alex Jones, using the old guilt by association ploy.
You need to be careful, as some people might suspect you are here to troll and I just might be one of them.
TBF back in March we all bought into the 3 week to flatten the sombrero bollox.
Beautiful as ever, Liberty. I have a different “peace place” than Jesus, but to all intents and purposes our feelings are completely aligned. Thank you!
CivilianNotCovidian, good to hear from you! If you have a moment to look, I’ve sent you a PM in the forums.
I never did. Diamond Princess data were out by early March. Never looked like the killer it was purported to be, and not nearly as contagious.
Precisely. The cruise ships were almost the perfect controlled environment to study effects and it was clear that what we were seeing was nothing to warrant the reaction.
I did back of envelope calcs from Diamond Princess data in January 2020.
My simple model came up with 370k US deaths tops.
Just a moderately bad flu season, nothing more.
Ooh err missus. You may have done …
You thoughts are not remotely accurate. Some have much more blood on their hands, than others and all of the public figures mentioned above are members of a cabal, which has deliberately inflicted the Covid scam on a ignorant and trusting public. Pushing major blame on to the public is like letting a rapist get off free, because the victim couldn’t fight off the sexual predator.
I don’t know what this post says about you, but you seem to massively overestimate the influence you could have had.
To regret not taking futile and costly actions is foolish. To profess guilt over the fact you ‘didn’t do anything’ is a kind of virtue signalling.
There’s no fucking blood on my hands. I’ve done what I can for the last year. I’ve boycotted the bloody NHS clapping stupidity. I’ve defaced ‘We love NHS’ stickers. I’ve avoided wearing a mask except in the most urgent circumstances & I reject the cowardly lanyard. I’ve boycotted every business that has relished or gold-plated the laws and regs. I’ve told every shiny-tabbarded Karen that collaborators faces will not be forgotten.
I’ve lived my life as best I can in this shitstorm. I got a new job, bought a house & moved across the country, changed my car. I ignored every rule & gone out and about with impunity. I’ve travelled to Lancashire to see my mother, I’ve had friends round for dinner. I’ve tried to enlighten and persuade every acquaintance.
So, no. I’m accepting no part in this ‘blood on my hands’ shit at all, thanks very much.
But they will get away with it, as usual.
LOOK! Will you NOT say that: I don’t think you understand.
IF they get away with it then a TOTALITARIAN PHARMACEUTICAL STATE with all kinds of unseen consequences will descend on this country.
“As usual”? There has NEVER been anything like this before. You are TRIVIALISING the issue.
STOP doing propagandists work for them and FIGHT BACK! PROTESTS IN MARCH.
I have NO TIME for comments like yours.
Absolutely. It is not pre-ordained. But it’s hard work. Hitler didn’t have digital media/communications, but nor did the resistance. All would-be totalitarian dictatorships work for a while… and then they die. How much they achieve is NOT pre-determined. When people in power take over the airwaves and control the narrative, it can feel like those of us who challenge the narrative are powerless to stop their agenda. But they are as afraid of us as we are of them. While we have breath in us, we CAN keep pushing them back. Don’t give up. Never never never give up. When you are going through hell, keep going. (And all the other Churchill quotes!?) Okay, the future might not look like how we imagined it but it does NOT have to look like some dastardly dystopian nightmare either. Keep fighting. Even if it’s one conversation a day. They are done plotting. They’ve shown their cards. We are still strategising. This is far from done!
Churchill was half-American and that is from where the courage came.
This has to be turned around before the end of this Summer.
Hahahaha…. land of the free, home of the brave. Fucking LOL.
What courage did Churchill show? He was a drunken, cigar-chomping sodomite, who sold Britain down the river to the international banksters. He also destroyed the cream of Europe and its people and he was directly responsible for bringing Stalinism into the heart of Europe. If you venerate Churchill, you are just as clueless and misguided as any braying, mask-wearing Karen.
How about this ill keep saying what I want to say, I didnt say there had been anything like this and I am not TRIVIALISING anything ,and you have no clue as to what I have done and the cost i personally have paid fighting this shit, AND THEY WILL GET AWAY WITH IT AS USUAL…..S2E I CAN USE CAPS TOO .
I was just going to tell you to fuck right offf, oh yea fuck right off, you need to wind your neck in a few feet.xxx
Then there is absolutely no point in doing anything if you think they will get away with it. So go home and don’t bother.
Thanks.
Misquote of the day Dr JOHN LEE: Why should the whole country be held hostage by the one in five who refuse a vaccine? Thing is even though I know he’s been taken totally out of context, the irony still doesn’t escape me!
The survival rate of “Covid-19” is reportedly 99.97%, so the entire country has been held hostage by 0.03% of the population for the last year! Where do they find these DM reporters, the bottom of the local duck pond?
What has happened to this guy? I just read the article where he refers to ‘ the superb rollout’ of the vaccine and even uses the term ‘refuseniks’ more than once. The content, style of his written discourse seems so unlike his initial articulate arguments months ago about the response to this virus-what has happened?
He’s devolved into a covidian. lower level of life than omeba
The lowest form of life.It casts doubt on the notion that evolution can’t be reversed. Bring back the dinosaurs!
There were no dinosaurs. Another freemasonic lie.
I thought the same. If these are actually his words then I won’t be reading or listening to him again.
Probably just the same way news about Sweden is twisted and misrepresented.
he probably has one eye on where he will get his next round of funding for research
He is a retired pathologist and has stated all along that he is able to speak freely because he cannot be accused of having conflicting interests and he has no career to put at risk.
This previous DM article written by him was even worse.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-9267781/What-point-vaccine-triumph-doomed-endless-curbs-asks-Dr-JOHN-LEE.html
Don’t see how it’s worse. John Lee has always been anti-lockdown and this article is consistent. He’s also been consistently critical of Johnson only listening to a select few ‘scientists’.
I agree about him being anti-lockdown but he seems to have moved from taking the emphatic view that no vaccine was justified (as per his discussions with JHB on TalkRadio, with Malcolm Kendrick and with Ivor Cummins last summer) to actively applauding the use of potentially harmful, and certainly unproven, vaccines. This was particularly evident in the article I linked to. It strikes me that his tone changed when he became part of the HART Group.
I wonder if it is a tactical move, sadly, reflective of acknowledgement within that group that trying to stop the vaccination programme is a lost cause so they are instead trying to use it to everyone’s advantage by overplaying the perceived positives of the vaccines with limited roll out to avoid people who don’t want it having it forced upon them. In other words, damage limitation.
Perhaps. He is on record many times saying times that it should only be administered to those with ‘informed consent’. I don’t think stopping the programme en masse was ever an option.
I think he has been “nobbled” like a lot of other formerly independent and reliable institutions sadly.
I saw that I totally agree with you.
I read that article too. Another example of poor research and journalism. But sheeple will read and believe it. Are any of these ‘articles’ proof read anymore? Then again I suspect the ‘anti vax’ blaming and finger pointing is intentional seeing how the msm is part of the agenda.
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“If vaccines work, what do you have to be scared about? Certainly not unvaccinated people.”
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You may want to revise the headline as it does not reflect the article. Maybe try – “Why should the country be held hostage by Scientists and Politicians who have got every major decision wrong so far?”
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I think John is a pragmatist. He’s got into the MSM by being a pragmatist. He has to pick his battles. Just like Julia HB. We, on LS, are eons ahead of the general public who are reading the DM. John’s aim has always been to be heard in the mainstream so his message has always been “We must live with the virus”. I doubt he has any time for the vaccines. I doubt he would readily take one himself, but he’s picking his battles. I think he may have actively helped de-escalate this insane “zero covid” BS, so for that, let’s be grateful. There is so much more work to be done to get people to wake up but we can’t do it in one Big Bang of information or they get suspicious and push us away, labelling us as “conspiracy theorists”… slowly, slowly catchy monkey
A place abundant with sunshine & copious amounts of free vitamin D.
Really?
So it has all the symptoms of flu
Kills roughly the same as flu
Appears at the same time as flu
And flu has mysteriously disappeared.
If it sounds like flu, smells like flu & looks like flu, it must be covid hmm.
Has anyone been arrested or fined for illicit cuddles?
You can hug whom ever you like if they consent, the level of submissive complicity of the British is staggering, it’s not a surprise we are known as a nation of serfs.
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Cuddled all 6 of my grandkids at 4-year olds birthday yesterday.Having drinks at friend’s flat tomoz. Just get your valid reason right in your head.
So sad.
Sad that anyone would feel it necessary to mention such a fundamental birthright.
I have nothing but utter hated and loathing for everyone who has helped and is helping to perpetrate this tyranny.
Repeal Coronavirus Act NOW.
About three months ago I observed two young men parting company at the end of my road.
As they flung their arms flamboyantly around each other I inwardly congratulated myself for tolerating this expression of gayness.
I then realised that this was in fact an open display of defiance towards tptb deserving of my applause.
I often hug friends,male or female. Nothing gay about it!
Who cares what they were, besides human?
There was a bloke, a big West Indian fella, offering hugs to people in a park.. London? a while back..arrested!
If it looks like a duck,walks like a duck, etc.
Brilliant
Plus copious amounts of air conditioning. Equaliser at least.
Ditto California. Worse record and hideous lockdowns.
As does California.
It’s pastime you stopped including this shite. Ferguson should be a national disgrace & his name as taboo as the racist N word, never to be spoken again after his trial & execution.
That Ferguson is being shoved down our throats even on this platform is the perfect mockery. He is the progenitor of the great lie, and his statue will dominate every public square in England for generations if we allow it.
Heroes of Covid Square = Adolf Hitler Platz.
Even the most anti-woke amongst us would pull down that statue.
Nay, nay, sceptics should encourage debate. The more the slimeball is allowed to ooze, the more evidence he accrues against himself.
If you really can’t stomach it, skip that section, it’s not compulsory!
I agree about the trial, but an execution would be a waste of rope. Imprison him for life in a don’t-care home, under the regime he has inflicted on so many innocent old people. He can try screwing his whore through a double plate-glass window.
Hanging is to good for him, he deserves a much slower death.
Mother Nature could doubtless come up with something from her cornucopia of major illnesses – now what is that one Stephen Hawkings got for instance? A fast version of that particular illness heading in the direction of his head sounds about right (and, of course, no access to a talkie machine for him obviously).
Slight snag to that – he might escape and go in for doing his Phoenix rising from the ashes lark yet again and hope that we all have another bout of collective amnesia and forget the list of ways he’s harmed our society and give him another chance for a go at killing off everything we value about Britain.
Nobody ever escapes from a don’t-care home.
I don’t agree with the hanging. Confiscate all that he and his family own and sell them all into slavery.
Then he can do something useful for someone.
agreed, bin the Ferguson shite.
There is a special cell in the Tower of London that was built to accommodate Hitler in the event of his capture.
It has an en suite lav and everything. Perfect for Ferguson to see out his days.
Let them slop out.
I suggest the room at the very top of Queen Victoria tower at Imperial College. The one that’s normally kept shut as previously students have jumped from.
There is a room in Maynooth College in Ireland that is now used as a waiting area but has a history of those staying there finishing themselves off.
https://comeheretome.com/2012/07/20/the-ghost-room-in-maynooth/
Given that the President of Maynooth College is part of NPHET – the body advising the Irish Government to lockdown, I’m sure we could offer to host Ferguson in Maynooth.
I find his emails extremely tedious, and childish. He has nothing worthwhile to say.
Hear, hear!! Why are people wasting their time? He’s arrogant, lacks self awareness and clearly has hatred of his fellow man. We are better off calling for him to face justice.
The sooner this man is punished for having inflicted this misery on us and damaging this country, the better.
I find his replies quite telling. No attempt to debate, rather patronising really
Most people don’t even know his name. We need more people to see what a twat he is.
agreed, but it was the kind of “science” that they actively wanted to get behind because it suited their purposes – they didn’t care whether it was right or not – and if it wasn’t how was anyone going to challenge them??
First-time post, long-time reader.
The guy in this vid has an interesting idea about how to spike the propaganda / bait the twitter zealots / newspaper comment junkies. It seems plausible to me but I’d be interested in hearing other views on whether this idea has any legs.
The basic strategy is to ‘become one of them’ add to the propaganda, but go waaaaay darker than they want you to. Instead of arguing with the zealots, support them, agree with their points but take it further which in turn makes them seem more extreme by the stance you’re taking, but subtly enough they don’t notice you’re baiting them.
The idea is to shock the waverers who are just about clinging on to ‘some-day it will be over’… Apparently it’s also quite fun. Perhaps not with your normal social media account though.
This guy explains it way better than I can. https://youtube.com/watch?v=q4HqIIy1E5Y
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Sounds like a tricky thing to do, Groundhog, but good luck!
Yes Thomas Sheridan is wonderful!!!
Love it. Adopting the strategy.
I work as a gardener. Today I shall be planting a money tree.
I harvested my money tree,
Nothing did I get
But a drop of furlough
And a load of debt.
If it is a fiat currency money tree, then it will wither and die. Deer will turn their noses up at such a poor food source.
How China tricked Italy then the World into lockdowns
Ivor Cummins – the Scientific History of Lockdowns – Part 3. What Really Happened!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzVnjgMBDVQ&list=WL&index=18
Tory MP Richard Fuller Calls Out Every MP For Allowing This https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/13.0.1/svg/1f4a9.svg Show & The Dangers We Now Face
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3BDf0z6Sks
https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/13.0.1/svg/1f44f.svg 1 MP Lives In The Real https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/13.0.1/svg/1f30e.svg Charles Walker SLAMS Boris Over Insane Roadmap Plans https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/13.0.1/svg/1f637.svg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhwkzHxGEIc
If you don’t give us an idea what’s in these, we are not going to look
Its poo…
For those that missed them on Monday – ive uploaded Charles Walke’sr and Desmond Swayne’s speeches from House of Commons, to my growing Youtube Channel here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B40yD_fROWQ
and
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pX6aBxGWNFc
Subscribed, thank you.
Great. I shall not monotonize the channel, it shall not make any money. I simply want to build a library of voices that have been speaking out.
Mirror it on Alt tech too otherwise it will be memory holed
Minds
Rumble
Bitchute
take your pick
I’m in two minds at this, on one hand he is of course absolutely right in what he says about government terrorism. On the other hand I struggle to find any sympathy for anyone gullible enough to ever be influenced by what was so very obviously propaganda from the beginning.
I reiterate not even for a second did I buy the novel virus nonsense, I was always a lockdown sceptic albeit for different reasons, but never thought Covid-19 was the plague that warranted the measures taken. I will admit I felt it reasonable for government to ASK (not mandate) things like SD in pubs etc & masks in tube trains etc. But the propaganda was blatant. So it’s difficult to feel sorry for those with ludicrous faith in government.
When the human vaccine trials have ended in years to come I won’t have any sympathy for sufferers either.
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Was looking at the picture ATL of the redhead being stabbed in the nose by a white monster, and wondering what it reminded me of.
It was the Cybermen. When crestures who were human long ago, but long ago turned their backs on every human feeling, attempt to take over the world. As they torture and kill people they grate ‘You have been deleted.’
Of course, they fail every time because of Dr Who. Nowadays, I suspect Dr Who is working for SAGE on yet more devices for deleting people. Though a damp nappy strapped to the face does the job pretty well as it is.
The latest missive from Prof. Ferguson caused me no end of amusement, particularly his parting shot:
If you want to actually persuade people, do some real research and publish it in scientific journals. Pure rhetoric, cherry-picking “evidence” and ad hominem attacks are never going to succeed.
The amusement stems from the fact that a very similar gauntlet was thrown down by ‘climate scientist’ Eric Steig to Ryan O’Donnell back in 2011, after a paper Steig was associated with was dismantled by sceptics. Unfortunately for Steig, O’Donnell picked up the gauntlet, and with the aid of Steve McIntyre et al, got their paper peer reviewed and published, and a whole shit show of shennanigans ensued. it is an incredible story.
Any how, you will all remember that initially Prof.Ferguson linked to Lewandowsky & Cook, and I posted at the time that I thought that spoke volumes about Prof. Ferguson’s mind set, and probably informs his latest tetchy response.
This will be of some interest to some, and no interest to others, but hey, i’ve got a spare few minutes:
Models, statistics and confirmation bias; all good fun!
First a paragraph that sets it up:
https://climateaudit.org/2015/03/27/jones-and-dixon-refute-conspiracy-theorist-lewandowsky/
And:
https://mygardenpond.wordpress.com/2015/03/26/commentary-in-psychological-science/
He links an article in the Guardian by a Tory MP talking about science, as a rebuttal.
This tells you all you need to know.
Particularly weak response today I thought. Not sure why but I feel very uncomfortable reading them.
Was it Neil O’Brien? I think most of us know what we think of him.
If Ferguson worked for me on one of my projects he would not last long. If I’d done the timeline and the budget (based on years of experience doing the job) and assembled the team, they would be expected too more or less stick to the timeline and budget unless a major corker popped out of the bottle. With Ferguson, he is a special case. He would propose 5 times longer and 12 times the cost for his department. He would have all kinds of crappy Excel spreadsheets incorrectly linked, with no notes on how they worked. His contingencies would be off the scale, his personnel requirements would be astronomic. If you asked him to justify his work and show his workings he would refuse and say that he always did it like that and we should trust him as he always did a good job. Then he would get stroppy when quizzed, blame others for not cooperating with him and then walk off in a huff. Just like in his letters. Been there, done that, got the T shirt for working with cunts like him. You can see them a mile off. Everything they do is ‘complicated’. You will… Read more »
But there you have summed up this whole shitshow. None of these people have EVER worked in the real world. From the Fat Pig dictator, to pantsdown to Twatty and handjob, none of them has ever been in a project meeting and assessed on their performance against their KPI’s and last months forecasts.
Every milestone the fat pig dictator has given has failed. Every single one. He would be off the project and up to HR. Pantsdown has been overstated on every one of his predictions by a factor of 12 times. His famous 250k dead was not for the year that was just winter. Off the project. Twatty is using data from a project that has never been used before from the CCP. This has failed at every level, spending has been out of control and morale is on the floor. The end date keeps moving and they keep using the same methods that have failed before. Off the project. Bye bye.
Saved ?
Or perhaps due a referral to the Advertising Standards people.
All sorts of things will kill the Covviebug. They just aren’t the sorts of things you’d want injected into your arm.
Ah … er … yes.
I’ve long thought those adverts that claimed that sort of thing is misleading and dangerous because if you take that advert to its logical conclusion then they also kill the good bacteria and viruses that a healthy body needs.
No wonder people’s especially kids’ immune systems have been compromised.
Covaids
I hear Dettoll ran the Pfizer trials too. 95% people.
This from the Grauniad, as referenced ATL:
“There has been a global crackdown on opposition activists and human rights defenders, increased attacks on journalists and moves to curb free speech, censor the media, roll out invasive tracking apps and put in place extreme surveillance measures, many of which are likely to far outlast the virus.”
All of this, of course, is occurring in other countries, ones the Grauniad doesn’t like.
Biggest case of pot-calling-kettle-black since the Russians blamed the Germans for the Katyn massacre.
PS. Same article asserts that face-nappies are made by Korean slave labourers in Chinese factories. Signal virtue over that, you face-knickered twats.
Such an elegant way with words 🙂
All thanks to a high-class edukayshun,
I love your wit Annie.
Me too
It always makes me laugh when I see where the muzzles are made – China. You can bet even those that are made here, the cloth would have come from China and the cotton very likely picked by Uighur slave labour.
Try to point this out and you’ll get tumbleweed as a response.
There was some early footage of an Indian sweatshop stitching ang chucking them on a pile in a very erm.. unsterile room.
Yeah I saw that on Arsebook funny enough. Bet its now been taken down.
Was it in Leicester by any chance?
Coronavirus Endgame
Blair the war criminal still at liberty, no fucking chance of any of the instigators of this shit show being held to any meaningful account.
I have hope that this is different. Blair mainly killed people ‘abroad’. Lockdown has harmed a lot of people here and a lot of big and powerful businesses – airlines, oil companies etc. I think there will be less appetite to forgive and forget. The powerful interests will want justice to be done for the main reason they don’t want it to happen again – and as it is we are going into lockdown this winter as cases inevitably rise due to seasonality.
They also need to ‘head off at the pass’ the inevitable calls for lockdown ‘to protect the NHS’ for any normal flu season.
I’m surprised that the big companies have been so quiet – maybe they didn’t want to be accused of killing granny – but when/if the public mood changes, they may come out swinging as the ‘defenders of freedom’. Hopefully by suing the guilty parties for throwing away our perfectly reasonable pandemic response plan
I’m surprised that the big companies have been so quiet – maybe they didn’t want to be accused of killing granny – but when/if the public mood changes, they may come out swinging as the ‘defenders of freedom’. Hopefully by suing the guilty parties for throwing away our perfectly reasonable pandemic response plan Agree. There was a discussion here in the comments a few days’ ago as to why major companies and institutions have remained silent and I think part of the massive problem is the general economic illiteracy of the public. Witness the slogans of the Corbynistas and gullible millienials – “people before profit”, “health before wealth”, etc. All simplistic but emotionally manipulative and trying to reason that without the economy and profit there would be no people and no health service, you might as well be trying to extract blood out of a stone. Those in big business who have spoken out against lockdown such as Sir Rocco Forte, Luke Johnson and Simon Dolan have regularly been smeared as greedy capitalists in the mould of Scrooge McDuck. Seeing these individuals regularly attacked is enough to make other CEOs and owners wary about speaking out. PS. That said I’m… Read more »
Yes how many times have you heard someone say, I don’t see why I should pay for it. Let the government pay! Er!
I do hope you are right.
I got 2 things out of Ferguson’s response
1 – he is distancing himself from the specifics of his modelling and emphasising that there were lots of models and they all sort of agreed that the virus was increasing quickly
2 – “whether controlling COVID spread has been worth the costs of lockdown – is a valid issue to be debated, as I’ve previously said. But it’s not really a scientific issue.”
I think the costs of lockdown vs the benefits of lockdown is definitely a scientific issue and this is where the ball has been dropped by both the scientists and the politicians. If there is clear evidence to a benefit then it is a political decision whether to go ahead with it anyway but the scientists seemed to absolve themselves of the responsibility of investigating disbenefits of lockdown completely.
If he can model A, then surely he can model B and compare, no?!!!
SAGE said that the harms of lockdown was not their responsibility – they should have been disbanded on the spot.
Apparently not
Absolutely NOT. Technocrats have no place in democracy or should they be involved in human rights! There are far to many scientists advising politicians & they have no place in politics. Covid-19 pandemic was purely a political crisis as is PUBLIC health. Health should be a medical issue, medicine isn’t a science.
I am against lockdowns whatever their benefits or disbenefits but the harms of any policy is definitely an issue worthy of scientific study.
Well put.
Lockdown isn’t a scientific issue, though science – and, of course, pseudoscience – come into it. It’s a political issue, a sociological an economic issue, but above all, a moral issue. The debate must be very wide, and the inescapable conclusion is that lockdowns are wicked and wrong.
Let’s keep science & politics separate. My fear with any “scientific” research in the pros & cons of lockdown is that it can not be separated from politics, & politicians always corrupt THE science.
although I concede the major point
‘lockdown should never have been on the table, so why bother investigating it either way’
scientists can feed into policy but not take it over. I have spent a lifetime working with academics and there is a strong streak of authoritarianism in them. If only everybody did what they said the world would be a better place….. etc
If for a moment we assume there was no agenda in lockdown & it was purely political ass covering for any perceived NHS failure. It demonstrates one thing, politicians should take a back seat to treating illness. The problem was SAGE was full of all the wrong experts. Barely a real medic among them ignoring chris shitty, which is what Johnson should have done. Successive Politicians have turned the NHS into an insatiable beast ironically the one thing you can’t blame Johnson for.
I agree. SAGE should have been full of people that are also aware of lockdown costs. SAGE member Mark Woolhouse said as much
https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/health/1320428/Coronavirus-news-lockdown-mistake-second-wave-Boris-Johnson
indeed. Typically a manifestation of their “cerebral school” of narcissism.
My late mother-in-law was an academic and she certainly didn’t liked being challenged. It was always “my way or the highway.”
Most academics are chock full of vanity, ruthlessly ambitious, intolerant of rival viewpoints and very short on empathy.
I know, I used to be one, but not (I hope) for long enough to be entirely corrupted.
I get one thing from all of Ferguson’s statements, namely that he is a deeply unimpressive and extremely weak human being. How whatever he produces has had such a catastrophic influence on our national life for decades is a question that perhaps only our descendants will be able to answer (should they exist with independent thought).
I get one thing from all of Ferguson’s statements, namely that he is a deeply unimpressive and extremely weak human being.
Exactly.
Sadly, he impresses brainless political goons, because his numbers are the biggest and baddest.
I suspect the benefits of lockdown have been magnificent for these Gate$ whores.
Lockdown Sceptics theme is OK, but does a disservice to John Barry (zulu being one of the best theme tunes EVER) of course Delingpole had to promote himself as an officer, I can imagine him in WW1 in the trenches sending privates to their deaths LOL!
On the plus side this must have really pissed off & triggered the woke, so i’ll give it 5 stars just for that.
Couldn’t believe Tesco, Ilkley had gone back to harassment last night but I was ready. Ignored guy on door but was chased inside, I eventually turned on him and with full Bungle throttle gave him both barrels: “I have exempted myself”. “That’s all right then”. “No it isn”t, you are committing a criminal offence if you ask me twice”. I will now write once again to the store and their Head Office. And on 6th March, Resistance Day, they will hopefully have many of us. Let’s make it happen round the country. This is our chance!
In Ilkla Tesco Baht’Mask.
‘Ast ‘a bin?’
Not a question a Southern wanker like me can possibly answer.
Stop tekkin’ piss outa us lot.
Go ate oop dooks.
Thanks K, I’ve copied that and will include it in my letter. She is wrong, however, you do not need to say you are exempt, asking you is harassment, asking twice is a criminal offence. Contrast Tesco with Boots: “Thank you for your letter I received today. I would like to apologise for the experience you received in Boots Ilkley. I have spoken with the member of staff involved within the incident and explained that it is individuals’ personal human rights whether to wear a mask. The colleague is sincerely apologetic for how you were made to feel.
I have spoken to all staff members within the Boots in Ilkley regarding the use of their own masks and how to approach customers who are not wearing them. Again, I apologize for the experience you had and hope future visits are more pleasant for you. Please feel free to contact myself in the future for any concerns you may have.”
Great answer from Boots – apologetic, reasonable and takes personal responsibility.
Well done to that person and may his/her tribe increase.
No probs K, one of the best things about this site is the ability of all of us to help each other with good info.
Good stuff Bungle. It’s important to push back.
For the record I think we are only just getting started. We are still in a golden era that will be reminisced. By those whose minds are still their own.
Great theme tune.
Help please.
I posted a fortnight or so ago ‘Birch Towers’ about the tensions between my wife who has taken the needle and myself. Sadly, the situation has not improved although we do still live under the same roof -so there’s hope. I would like to show my wife links to the various articles/video clips penned by emminent sceptics/scholars/organisations giving narrative/comment on the experimental /efficacy/dangerous aspects of the Covid19 vaccines.
Trying to search through comments on this board is a nightmare. Hopefully some of you are better organised IT wise and have some useful links tucked away in folders.
Post away and thankyou.
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I really wouldn’t lose sleep over it, let alone a marriage. If you believe it is right that someone should have the right not to take the vaccine then you cannot condemn someone if they choose to take the vaccine. It is a waste of energy trying to reason with people.
Just a few thoughts; Procrastination; If you are not vulnerable or in a high risk job there is no urgency, you only have one life and some of these covid potions are new and rather scary technology, the Gov and the NHS might be anxious for you to decide but there is no need for you to be in a rush, take your time. Understand the vaccines/potions available someone posted a link to a good site detailing the 4 types; https://edition.cnn.com/2020/11/24/health/covid-vaccines-design-explained/index.html If I do eventually have to take 1 to facilitate travel I would be more keen on the 3rd (Novovax) or 4th types (nasal spray). Consumer choice; the NHS only offer vaccine types 1 & 2, l tell them to call me back when they can offer type 3 or 4. The human respiratory system is subject to a panoply of coronaviruses and rhinoviruses and we are generally protected by a complex and finally balanced natural immune system, once you start interfering with that system it can cause a depleted response in other areas. Why has so much effort gone into high tech dodgy vaccines and so little into treatment when there is so much evidence that effective treatment… Read more »
I remember asking that somewhere. If you look at Aids, focus has been developing drugs and treatment that help people who have HIV which stops the latter from developing into full blown Aids and letting sufferers live a relatively healthy and normal life.
Why they’ve not copied the Aids strategy has been a mystery. No money in it?
I remember that certain countries in the Middle East required a negative AIDs test before you could work there. At the time taking an AIDs test could affect life insurance premiums.
I vaguely remember that because there were people I knew whose parents worked in the Middle East and they did have to take the test. This was back in the late 80s to early 90s.
Then by the mid 90s, that requirement was dropped.
I think it is still a requirement for Singapore, that well known pocket of democracy.
I think you’re right but its definitely not the case in the Middle East for a long time now.
There have been huge amounts of money in ploughed into “anti-virals”, in the sense that they are drugs that do not aim to destroy kill the virus, they just prevent the onset of the worst symptoms. In business terms, the result is a full order book for as long as the patients survive, which is the golden goose for the Pharmaceutical Industry. AIDS was a great success story for them in this sense.
https://www.immunology.org/coronavirus/connect-coronavirus-public-engagement-resources/types-vaccines-for-covid-19 is a good visual but can’t see sinovac and sinopharm being available in the UK .
Two that stand out for me:
Viral Impact in England The Empirical Truth Part 1
&
PandaCast | A Conversation with Knut Wittkowski
But there is so much good anti lockdown stuff out there despite censorship.
I point people to that first vid a lot.
My approach (whether I believe it or not) is to say I won’t have the vaccine until every vulnerable person in the world has had it. I think it is immoral for someone low risk like myself to elbow my way to the front just because I live in a rich country
Just say you’re waiting for human trials to end in 10yrs. To see what the results are
An old man I overheard yesterday at the supermarket said that to his GP – he won’t be having anythig experimental and they can come back to him in 10-15 years time.
I agree Steve, I would also add that I am willing to selflessly donate my jab to a teacher so that they can continue their valuable work in safety.
I recently spoke to a member of staff from a large corporation. While she was sorting out my requirements, the conversation turned to the vaccinations. She asked if I had mine, to which I replied no and won’t be doing so. I heard the relief in her voice followed by an outpouring of her thoughts. She said that most people seemed to be of the opposite view, so she has to be careful what she says. She told me that her daughter in her mid twenties worked in the community for the NHS and she had to have it. I didn’t get the the actual timing of the event but not long after receiving she was so ill that she called an ambulance and was kept in hospital for 3 days. I asked if she would be taking the second dose to which she replied no. Many nurses in hospital, told her that they wouldn’t be taking the vaccine at all. In all now out of 11 people I know who have 9 have had side effects some quite severe. Does this seem right to you.
At the end of the day are you willing to insert a product into your body that the manufacturer is unwilling to take responsibility for consequences of?
No vaccine is 100% safe. These have never been fully tested or used before. You only have the assurance of liars & propagandists that they are safe!
This is one that I like to use as it states that valid informed consent cannot be given unless participants are made aware of the specific dangers posed by ADE. Don’t get hung up on the title mentioning “vaccine trial participants” as it actually states in the paper that this danger needs to be disclosed to “future patients after vaccine approval”.
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/ijcp.13795
Here is some info on what a trustworthy and ethical company Pfizer is (and I do not think the others are any better)
https://architectsforsocialhousing.co.uk/2020/12/09/bowling-for-pfizer-whos-behind-the-biontech-vaccine/
Let the consequences of this nightmare rip. It is the only way for the message to hammer home. For many this entails necessary suffering. Embrace it, and use the pain to force change. This is all we have left.
That is my only hope, Obi-Wan Kenobi, that perhaps this could be the necessary catalyst for real change in the system, let the force be with us, but I fear if history is anything to go by China is our future.
Let the Death Star be with us. Darth Vader would be a preferable and convincing administrator compared with the current shower of non-entities that nearly everyone is obeying.
With this ‘roadmap’, it looks like the ‘conspiracy theorists’ were correct from the beginning about the Certificate Of Vaccination ID; with the ‘vulnerable, now absurdly having being extended to people to include people as young as fifty. Odd really given that the state pension age is now sixty-seven.
Vaccine coverage must be 100%, with no exceptions. Anything less is completely unacceptable to our demented, demonic leadership. If anyone cannot see this, then they are beyond redemption.
Somewhere surely there will be a few bent (sorry, heroic) doctors who would give us a certificate in exchange for a small consideration? Perhaps embedded in our more resistant communities?
African/Indian doctors are naturally vaccine hesitant
If they are not stopped they will develop systems to make that technically impossible. This is just the first phase.
I just have to add that I am not in favour of ‘vaccination’ status being linked to state pension access, that each of us will already have paid for anyway, via our National Insurance contributions. But I do think that it is worth pointing out the inherent inconsistency.
So people aged between fifty and sixty-six inclusive are considered to be ‘vulnerable’, for the purposes of the ‘vaccine’, but would not be ‘vulnerable’ enough to get the winter fuel allowance offered to OAP’s.
To save the exchequer money, the state pension age is unlikely to be dropped below sixty-seven, it is more likely to rise by up to a few years (bearing in mind that until recently it was sixty-five).
It will be raised to 70 in short order.
Unfortunately, the conspiracy theorists have been right on too many matters.
I have wondered, since the start, whether Ferguslime would, eventually, go the way of doctor Kelly. Reading his baity response today, including a rather desperate link to some nonsense from O’Brien, I think it is a racing certainty. They will probably blame his demise on Lockdown Sceptics being mean to him.
We can hope (no apologies or retractions)
No intelligence there to worry them.
Let’s imagine a scenario… so the public begins to wake up to the fact that infection levels have been in decline before every single lockdown was initiated. They start to wonder whether lockdown has really made a difference or, has it actually made things worse. A certain narcissistic modeller, desperate to be loved, starts muttering about “coming clean” and publicly admitting that he was pressured into modelling as he did because lockdowns had to be seen to work or the public would realise that the catastrophic privations had, not only, been pointless but had actually made things worse; lockdown caused more covid deaths by kicking the can down the road into the winter and that is before we start with the catastrophic by products of lockdown. Given the complicity of nearly the entire establishment in such duplicity, I can well see a scenario in which Ferguson is Kellied.
On an ancient tumulus used for eons for ritual sacrifices, a circle on top of a hill, guarded by a black goat. They will instigate another investigation and call it “operation Mason II” and they will appoint another home office laccy pathologist to find what ever the deep state wants him to find.
Then we can all learn some lessons, put it behind us and move on. As usual.
He is on a wind-up quoting O’Brien. Ferguscum is up with the likes of Blair, Clinton and Gates, as vile a human being as can be imagined.
If only….
“Coronavirus Endgame With the publication on Monday of the Government’s “roadmap” out of lockdown, the Covid crisis enters its final phase, albeit a painfully extended one.” Headline and first sentence of today’s update. Once more for me both the tone and substance are way off. Endgame? Final phase? For starters, the roadmap is very vague on what “normal” will look like and the criteria for reaching normal are even vaguer, and we have already had mixed messages from the PM, Hancock and various SAGE gobshites mouthing off to whoever will listen. Secondly there is a long history of U-turns and no reason to suppose this time will be different. But let’s suppose the roadmap is followed. Will life be back to normal on June 21? Of course not. Significant restrictions will remain – almost certainly mandatory masks, testing, forced self isolation, probably mandatory booking, limits on crowd sizes, travel restrictions and reams of guidance on covid safe venues, travel, activities, offices. I strongly doubt that school and university activity will be fully back to normal. There will still be daily reporting of death and case counts and of the latest vaccine and variant news. Then we come to the autumn/winter. Cases will… Read more »
Well said.
SAGE have now pinned themselves to another virus explosion this summer. If that doesn’t happen their credibility will be shot with many more people. I do actually expect Johnson will be able to stick to his timetable and maybe even hire some people to provide better advice for next winter.
I am not saying this good in any way and the damage already done will be felt harshly in the coming years for the majority.
SAGE’s credibility was shot more or less from the start, as was the government’s. It has made little difference because the information people need is simply not being presented to them, and now anyone going against the narrative will be smeared as anti-vaccine
Am I the only one who finds it incredibly frustrating way everyone, including LS, is acting like the government’s word on what is going to happen at the scale of months in advance is worth anything?
For crying out loud people nothing has changed, you’ve been handed another extension and the description of a picture of a crumb of hope! How can that be good enough for so many?!
I agree fully. I emailed my MP yesterday saying we can fully expect goalposts to shift and everybody expects a full lockdown next winter – unless something monumental changes in our approach
The groundwork has already been laid. Mass testing guarantees higher “case” numbers, the narratives about new strains have been laid.
People who have swallowed it the whole time are telling me they can’t justify more lockdown, but they will roll over the moment the govt announces that with a heavy heart it just isn’t safe to go back to normal.
Maybe I’m wrong and things will go more or less to schedule.
But even then I am not sure I can live in a country longterm where this can just happen with the cooperation of the population at large.
Don’t worry i’m as pessimistic today, lockdown will never end (but may take a different form), as i’ve always been.
You have intimate knowledge of the precipice over which we have already fallen. This destruction is still an abstract concept for most. But one way or the other everyone will learn about how damaging were the catastrophic errors of judgement made by billions.
There will be a very short golden period when you will have been proven right. When this happens, rub it in to all your moron customers while it lasts. After this, you, like the rest of us, will be erased.
That is it. The masses won’t know until it hits them but it will and hard. Including the intelligentia in the bought Public Sector, who are milking this to the max.
At least he hates masks. Worth listening in around 11.05 today assuming Neil Oliver is on .
Repeal Coronavirus Act
Mike Graham? Have you seen or heard the man? Thinks he speaks for the normal bloke. “Pig’s arse!”
Jeffrey Tucker’s pieces have generally been excellent. I was a bit surprised at the extent of his optimism today though. Maybe with places like Florida putting up real resistance and getting attention things are moving faster in the US. Certainly hope he’s right.
are we really the hardest locked down country in the world apart from Eire?
Countries like the Philippines are far worse. Look up the “Postcard from the Philippines” published in yesterday’s update.
I think it’s in Europe
Where is Eire? Oh, do you mean the Republic of Ireland?
Go on I’ll bite -what is the difference?
I guess bit is also personal perception.
I for one find having a curfew at night worse than what we experience here.