“The Link Between Infections and Deaths Has Been Broken”
Health Secretary Matt Hancock struck an upbeat tone at the daily press conference yesterday where he announced that a single dose of either the AstraZenica or Pfizer jab reduces risk of hospitalisation in the over-80s by 80%. He continued:
The effectiveness of the vaccine on protecting people, and on reducing transmission, is critical to the roadmap [for lifting lockdown restrictions]… The data that we’ve published today shows that the roadmap is achievable, because it shows that we will be able to break the link from cases through to hospitalisations and to deaths, and until now in the pandemic that link from cases through to hospitalisations and deaths has been unbreakable. And we have demonstrated with the data today that the vaccines can break that link, and that is down to the power of science. So it’s good news for everybody.
Good, but given that all the over-80s and all the over-70s have now been offered at least one dose – and more than 90% have taken that offer – why is there so little urgency in when it comes to lifting of restrictions, considering what a whopping chunk of Covid hospitalisations and deaths these people account for?
Meanwhile, a ‘manhunt’ is underway for a missing case of the so-called Brazilian variant. Prime Minister Boris Johnson downplayed fears about the variant though, saying:
We have no reason not to think our vaccines are effective against these variants of concern. People should take that as some evidence of confidence.
Health Correspondent Nick Triggle at the BBC had this analysis.
It is tempting to think that if officials can identify the one missing case, the UK will be able to stamp out the Brazil variant.
But it’s unlikely this will be possible. There will no doubt be more cases either of this variant or others circulating with the E484 mutation that allows the virus to escape some of the effect of the vaccines.
That’s because not all positive cases can be checked for variants. The UK carries out nearly half of the genomic sequencing in the world and can check around 25,000 positive tests a week for variants.
That means about a quarter of positive cases were checked last week, but a month ago – with infection rates higher – it was under one in 10.
What is more, not everyone who is positive comes forward for a test in the first place. We are seeing just the top of the iceberg.
We received this intriguing comment about the variants from a well-connected reader who cannot be named lest he endanger his source.
I have good reason to believe that Hancock is desperate for variants, and that experts think it a waste of time to hunt for them and think vaccinations are fine to keep things going well, including coping with variants. He wants twice daily briefings on any possible variants.
Stop Press: How to spot the Brazilian variant.
Battle-Weary Peter Hitchens Takes Flak for Jab Decision
Peter Hitchens, one of the earliest of the UK’s small band of sceptical journalists, used his weekly conversation with Mike Graham on talkRADIO to discuss the mixed reaction to his Mail on Sunday column in which he revealed he had had his first Covid jab. He wrote:
Of course my selfish injection didn’t hurt. I’m a blood donor (so also please don’t call me selfish), used to far bigger needles in my arm, for a lot longer. I did feel a pang of regret and loss. For me, the vaccination was a gloomy submission to a new world of excessive safety and regulation. I’d tried to fight against it but I lost.
The New Jerusalem, in which we allow the state to boss us around even more, in the name of our own good, is now coming into being.
And so we are just going to be under surveillance a lot more, recorded a lot more and bossed about a lot more.
He had weighed up the pros and cons and concluded that, nearing 70 and with part of his family abroad who he had been prevented from seeing for over a year, resisting the coming vaccine passport system was un-winnable. In response, he was deluged with accusations of capitulation on social media yesterday. Anyone who has listened much to Hitchens for the last year will know that he has said very little about the vaccine and certainly never said whether he would or wouldn’t take it, nor discouraged anyone else from taking it. On talkRADIO, he underlined the point that the battle was over as far as he was concerned.
You can’t lead when there’s nothing much behind you. I’ve worked day and night, before breakfast, before lunch, before supper, into the evening day after day after day trying to make the case against this folly for 11 long months, sometimes very nearly totally alone in my trade. I resent very much anyone who suggests that I didn’t put my all into it or that I didn’t believe in it. But I don’t think that there has been sufficient resistance at a time when it could have been any use. People wake up now and say, “Oh gosh, this is all a terrible mistake!” – Where were they?! – Particularly in my own trade, but in general, where were they in the months of March, April and June? Where were they in Parliament, in the Law, when some difference could have been made and this could have been stopped? They weren’t anywhere to be seen. It’s no good turning on me now and saying ,”Actually, we have failed.” I didn’t fail! I kept on, but I’m just not going to pretend you can carry on and on fighting a battle with nobody behind you against an enormously powerful, immensely rich enemy who simply turns a steamroller on you. I’ve been steamrollered. It’s an experience I’m horribly used to.
He turned his exasperation on would-be members of the ‘resistance’ who remained silent.
There are people in this country not like me, a lot of people I just don’t appeal to, but commentators who instantly, if they take up a cause, attract a powerful following, and I’d name two of those among them. Douglas Murray and Charles (now Lord) Moore. These were voices which in my view, if they’d spoken out against this, could have changed the whole tendency of things. But among so many others, they looked on it as spectators. They didn’t see it as their cause.
Perhaps it is a sign that Hitchens is going to hang up his fiddle, but we certainly hope not.
Worth watching in full.
Hypocrite of the Week
We thought our teaching unions were bad, but America’s are worse. The President of a teaching federation in California, who’s been campaigning against re-opening public schools, was spotted dropping his own child off at a private school. Fox News has more.
A group known as Guerilla Momz is calling Berkeley Federation of Teachers president Matt Meyer a hypocrite after spotting him dropping his two-year-old daughter off for in-person instruction at a private pre-school.
“Meet Matt Meyer. White man with dreads and president of the local teachers’ union,” the group wrote in a tweet on Saturday along with video footage of Meyer. “He’s been saying it is unsafe for *your kid* to be back at school, all the while dropping his kid off at private school.”
Meyer told Fox News in a statement that the video, which blurred out his child’s face, was “very inappropriate” and an intrusion of his child’s privacy. He added that there were “no public options for kids her age”.
As ever, it’s one rule for me and another for thee.
Worth reading in full.
Stop Press 2: An editorial has been published in the British Medical Journal by Sarah J. Lewis, Alasdair P.S. Munro, George Davey Smith, and Allyson M. Pollock entitled “Closing schools is not evidence-based and harms children“.
Keeping schools open should be the UK’s top priority
Some 8.8 million schoolchildren in the UK have experienced severe disruption to their education, with prolonged school closures and national exams cancelled for two consecutive years. School closures have been implemented internationally with insufficient evidence for their role in minimising COVID-19 transmission and insufficient consideration of the harms to children.
For some children education is their only way out of poverty; for others school offers a safe haven away from a dangerous or chaotic home life. Learning loss, reduced social interaction, isolation, reduced physical activity, increased mental health problems, and potential for increased abuse, exploitation, and neglect have all been associated with school closures. Reduced future income and life expectancy are associated with less education. Children with special educational needs or who are already disadvantaged are at increased risk of harm. The 2019 report of the Children’s Commissioner for England estimated that 2.3 million children in England were living in unsafe home environments with domestic violence, drug or alcohol abuse, or severe mental problems among parents. These long term harms are likely to be magnified by further school closures.
The overall risk to children and young people from COVID-19 is very small, and hyperinflammatory syndrome is extremely rare. Studies are under way to gauge the effect of post-Covid syndrome among children.
Although school closures reduce the number of contacts children have, and may decrease transmission, a study of 12 million adults in the UK found no difference in the risk of death from COVID-19 in households with or without children. Only 3% of people aged over-65 live with children.
In-person learning increases teachers’ exposure and might be expected to increase their risk of becoming infected, but accumulating evidence shows that teachers and school staff are not at higher risk of hospital admission or death from COVID-19 compared with other workers. Teacher absence because of confirmed COVID-19 in England was similar in primary and secondary schools in the autumn term, despite secondary schoolchildren having much higher rates of SARS-CoV-2 infection. Moreover teacher absence decreased in Tier 3 regions during the November lockdown despite schools remaining open.
Worth reading in full.
Hans Rosling’s Ten Instincts
A reader has got in touch with a summary of the 10 faulty human instincts described in Hans Rosling’s book Factfulness, lifted from a review of the book on Amazon. The question is: How many of these faults has the Government exhibited in its thinking about the pandemic?
1. The Gap Instinct – We tend to divide the things into two distinct groups and imagine a gap between them. To control gap instinct, look for the majority. Beware of the averages, if you look at the spread, the majority will overlap. Beware comparisons of extremes (the media loves to do it).
2. The Negativity Instinct – We tend to instinctively notice the bad more than the good. We need to learn to acknowledge the fact that things can be both ‘better’ and ‘bad’ at the same time. Example, education levels have improved over time, but still, 10% of the children don’t get any education, that’s bad. We also need to know that good news is never reported, media would hype the bad stuff always. Subsequently, gradual improvement isn’t reported either. Countries, government, media often try to glorify the past, so we need to be beware of these rosy pasts.
3. The Straight Line Instinct – When we see a line going up steadily, we tend to assume the line will continue to go up in the foreseeable future. To control this instinct, remember that curves come in different shapes. Finally, don’t assume straight lines if data doesn’t show it.
4. The Fear Instinct – We tend to perceive the world to be scarier than it really is. We overestimate the risks associated with violence, captivity, contamination, etc. The world seems scarier because what you hear has been carefully selected to be told. Remember, Risk = Danger x Exposure, and act accordingly. Make decisions only when you’re calm, not when you are afraid.
5. The Size Instinct – We tend to see things out of proportion, over-estimating the importance of a single event/person that’s visible to us, and the scale of an issue based on a standalone number. A lonely number may seem impressive in isolation, but can be trivial in comparison to something else. Hence, always look for comparisons. Use the 80/20 rule. When comparing countries, look for rates per person.
6. The Generalisation Instinct – We tend to wrongly assume that everything or everyone in a category is similar. Hence, we must look for differences within a group, look for similarities across groups and look for differences across groups. We should beware of the term ‘Majority’ – it can mean 51% or 99% or anything in between. Beware of vivid images, which are easier to recall but can be exceptions to the general norm.
7. The Destiny Instinct – We tend to assume that the destinies of people, cultures, countries, etc. are predetermined by certain factors, and such factors are fixed and unchanging, i.e., their destinies are fixed. To control this, we must keep track of gradual changes and improvements. We should update our knowledge on different subjects, and look for examples of cultural changes.
8. The Single Perspective Instinct – We tend to focus on single causes or solutions, which are easier to grasp and make our problems seem easier to solve. It is better to look at problems from multiple perspectives. To control this, always test your ideas and allow people to find weaknesses. Don’t claim to be an expert at all times, be humble about your limited expertise in different areas.
9. The Blame Instinct – When something goes wrong, we instinctively blame it on someone or something. To control this, resist finding a scapegoat. Look for causes, not villains. Finally, look for systems and processes, not heroes.
10. The Urgency Instinct – We tend to rush into a problem or opportunity for fear that there’s no time and we may be too late. To control this, take small steps. Always insist on data rather than making hunch based hasty decisions. Always be aware of the side effects of your hasty decision to avoid making the same.
The Mortality Risk of COVID-19 is Dying Out
We are publishing an original paper today by Howard Greene that looks at the diminishing risk of dying from COVID-19 and argues that it’s now within the normal range Americans are typically prepared to live with and, for that reasons, restrictions should be lifted. Howard‘s credentials cover 40 years of working in the medical technology field, for both large and small companies. He is the co-inventor of the monoclonal antibody sandwich assay which is today the standard clinical chemistry method for measuring proteins, including the test for SARS-CoV-2 antigen. Here is an extract:
Governments have imposed extreme policies to contain COVID-19 infections because of public perceptions that the mortality risk is high. As the collateral damage to education, careers, routine health care, and economies grows, and as infection rates decline, it is reasonable to assess to what degree the COVID-19 mortality risk justifies continued Government intervention in normal life.
It goes without saying that any unnatural death is a tragedy to be avoided. Nevertheless, in a free society, individuals make decisions every day that come with mortality risk: driving at high speeds on crowded interstate highways, or rock climbing, or ignoring the onset of serious obesity. In America, Government policy should reflect population mortality costs without trying to protect every citizen from the inevitability of death. Individuals should make decisions about risky behavior based on knowledge about their personal exposure to mortality risks.
Unfortunately, bad news sells better than good news, and politicians are driven to ‘do something’. As a result, the actual population cost and individual risk of dying from COVID-19 have been lost in a fog of tragic stories and fear mongering. This paper aims to cut through that fog by answering some basic questions:
- What is the individual risk of being infected with SARS-CoV-2?
- If an individual contracts COVID-19, what is his risk of dying?
- How does this mortality risk compare to the normal risks of modern living?
Average Individual Risk of Contracting COVID-19 Within the Next Year Is Less Than 5%
The average American’s risk of contracting COVID-19 during the period March 1st 2020 through February 16th 2021 was about 18%, i.e., one-in-five. This estimate is based on data from the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation (IHME), an independent global health research center at the University of Washington.
The CDC tabulates Daily New COVID-19 Cases (DNCC), but they do not capture infections which were not serious enough to require medical care. Daily New COVID-19 Infections (DNCI) estimates include both diagnosed and undiagnosed infections, and they are generated by epidemiological models using data from seroprevalence studies that test for antibodies to the virus and/or tracing programs that test for live virus in people who contacted infected individuals. IHME has developed such a model, and Figure 1 compares the CDC case numbers against IHME’s infection estimates.
During the period March 1st 2020 to February 16th 2021, IHME estimates that slightly less than half (47%) of SARS-CoV-2 infected Americans were diagnosed as COVID-19 cases. Their estimate of cumulative total infections during that period is 27.6 million people, which is about 18% of the 328 million people living in America.
Dividing DNCI by the total population produces the average, population probability of having been infected in a 1-day time period. This Daily COVID-19 Infection Rate (DCIR) can be annualized using this formula: RA = 1 – (1 – RD)^365, where RA = Annual Rate and RD = Daily Rate. The Annual COVID-19 Infection Rate (ACIR) measures the probability of the average American contracting COVID-19 during the next 12 months, if the epidemiological parameters of the day in question were to remain constant for one year.
Figure 2 shows the daily ACIR for the period March 1st 2020 to February 16th 2021, along with IHME’s projection of ACIR to June 1st 2021. As the chart indicates, the ACIR varied, with high points in April, August, and January, and low points in May and September.
The implication of the IHME projection is that, by May 2021, the ACIR will drop below 5%. Thanks to the end of the virus season and the onset of herd immunity, the average American will face an annual risk of contracting COVID-19 of less than one-in-twenty. An individual American will be at higher or lower risk depending upon his relative exposure to infected subjects.
Nevertheless, COVID-19 will remain dangerous for people susceptible to the severe acute respiratory syndrome which can result in hospitalization and death. This danger is reflected in the COVID-19 Infection Fatality Rate (CIFR), which is a measure of the percentage of subjects infected with SARS-CoV-2 who die because of the infection.
Worth reading in full.
Stop Press: Eleanor Hayward in the Daily Mail has reported the startling statistic that one in four of the deaths attributed to Covid were of people with dementia, highlighting the huge skew towards those in care homes, as well as the devastating toll of isolation.
More than 34,000 dementia sufferers have died from COVID-19, research published today shows.
One in four of all virus deaths have been among those with the illness – but care home visiting bans have denied families the chance to say goodbye.
Today’s study lays bare the devastating toll of lockdown on the nation’s 850,000 care home residents living with dementia.
Nine in 10 families said the pandemic had accelerated their loved one’s symptoms, the Alzheimer’s Society found.
Seven in 10 care home residents have dementia, but most have not had meaningful visits for almost a year.
Almost a quarter of family members have not been able to see their relative with dementia at all for over six months, the survey reveals. This isolation and loneliness has caused some residents to lose the ability to eat, drink and speak.
More than a quarter of family members who care for someone with dementia said they witnessed an “unmanageable decline” in the health of their relative.
Of the 124,978 COVID-19 deaths registered up to February 12th, an estimated 27.5% had dementia.
Worth reading in full.
Government’s Notorious ‘1 in 3’ Propaganda Line Doesn’t Square With ONS Data
Norman Fenton, a Professor of Risk Information Management at Queen Mary University has analysed the data from a study of ‘asymptomatic cases’ in Cambridge and published his conclusions in a blog post:
The Cambridge study testing asymptomatics is the gift that keeps on giving…
This makes interesting reading for anybody who still believes the Government ‘case’ data and the claim that just because you don’t have any COVID-19 symptoms it doesn’t mean you aren’t an danger.
This data also means that if the Government claim that “1 in 3 people with the virus has no symptoms” is correct then the ONS estimated infection rate is massively inflated – the currently reported ‘case’ numbers must be at least 8 times greater than the true number of cases. On the other hand, if the Government estimates of case numbers are correct then at most 1 in 26 people with the virus has no symptoms. Here’s an informal explanation why (formal proof is below):
Cambridge has a population of 129,000.
If the ONS infection estimates for Cambridge (0.71%) are accurate, then during an average week in this period about 916 people had the virus and 128,084 did not.
But if the “1 in 3” claim is correct about 305 people in Cambridge had the virus but no symptoms.
So at most 128,389 people in Cambridge had no symptoms and that means at least 305/128389 people with no symptoms had the virus. That is at least 0.24% (i.e. at least around 1 in 421).
But the study shows on average only 1 in 4867 (0.028%) with no symptoms had the virus. So there should only have been about 36.
That means the “1 in 3” claim and the ONS estimates cannot both be correct.
If the “1 in 3” claim is correct, then the maximum possible value for the infection rate is 0.084% and not 0.71% as claimed (with 0.084% we would have 108 with the virus of whom 36 have no symptoms). So the ONS estimated infection rate is over eight times greater than the true rate.
If the 0.71% infection rate is correct, then the maximum possible value for the proportion of people with the virus who have no symptoms is 3.9% (as this would mean 36 of the 916 people with the virus have no symptoms as predicted by the Cambridge data).
Worth reading Professor Fenton’s conclusions and workings out in full.
“Why I am Not a Lockdown Sceptic”
We are publishing on original piece today by Alastair Cavendish, a former professor of English Literature, explaining why technically speaking he is not a sceptic. Below is an extract:
In times of stress, which occur with increasing frequency these days, I find myself turning to Lockdown Sceptics almost as a guilty pleasure. One ought, of course, to challenge oneself with news sources that do not simply reflect one’s own views. The echo chamber and the hall of mirrors have become characteristic metaphors to describe the news media, which produce sounds and images as distorted as they are familiar. On Lockdown Sceptics, however, I can at least be certain of finding sanity, courtesy, and commitment to evidence, qualities which are in short supply elsewhere. The alternatives are to retreat even further from human society, or to listen to a smug voice on the BBC wondering out loud how people like Toby Young can sleep at night with all the blood on their hands.
All the same, I am not a lockdown sceptic myself, any more than I am a racism sceptic or a rape sceptic. Lockdown, like racism and rape, is an evil thing, and I am unequivocally against it. If this seems like an extremist position, consider the question as a variant of the trolley problem, which has been a staple of philosophy classrooms since Judith Jarvis Thompson and Philippa Foot wrote about it in the 1970s. The student is asked to imagine that s/he is a bystander who is watching a trolley speeding along a track, on which there are five people tied up ahead. There is no way to stop the trolley, but it is possible to pull a lever which will divert it onto another track, on which there is one person tied up.
Many people say that they would pull the lever and murder the person on the other track. However, they are apt to change their mind when presented with an alternative problem in which the bystander is on a bridge, standing beside a large, heavy man. The trolley is about to run under the bridge, but the man is large enough to stop the trolley if he is pushed onto the track, though it will kill him in the process. Very few people say that they would push the man onto the track, killing him in order to save the five people tied up ahead.
The parallel with lockdown is clear. Lockdowns kill people, and the people who will suffer most from them are reasonably foreseeable. Those who live alone, and whose mental health is fragile, are clearly suicide risks. So are people who have lost their businesses and livelihoods, or jobs that gave their life meaning. Many others are at risk from untreated conditions less fashionable than COVID-19. To be in favour of lockdown is to say that these people are less valuable than others, the type of people one might as well shove off a bridge to stop a speeding trolley.
Worth reading in full.
A Change in Nomenclature
A reader has written in with a suggestion, along with a doctored photo to illustrate his point.
‘Pro-lockdowner’ is a bit of a mouthful. Why not ‘Morlock’, after the sinister underground creatures of HG Wells’s Time Machine?
COVID-1984
We have a particularly good crop of ‘Party Slogans’ submitted by readers today:
REASON IS TREASON
‘THE SCIENCE’ IS SCIENCE
DATASET IS TRUTH
TRUTH IS LOCKDOWN
SOCIALISING IS SELFISH
INACTIVITY IS HEALTH
FRESH AIR IS CONTAGION
EXERCISE IS UNHEALTHY
HUGGING IS VIOLENCE
SICKNESS IS SELFISH: HEALTHCARE MUST BE LIBERATED FROM SELFISHNESS
and…
VARIANTS BYPASS COMMUNITY IMMUNITY WITH IMPUNITY
Do keep them coming – send them to us here.
Poetry Corner
A reader, a man of the cloth, has sent us a ‘Covid-Tide Hymn for Supine Clergy’ to be sung to the tune of “All to Jesus” by Winfield Scott Weeden:
1.
All to Boris I surrender,
All to SAGE I freely give,
I will ever live and trust them
In their presence daily live.
Chorus:
I surrender all,
I surrender all,
All to thee my glorious leaders,
I surrender all.
2.
All to Boris I surrender,
Humbly at his feet I bow,
Worldly pleasures all got taken;
Lock me, Boris, lock me down.
(Chorus)
3.
All to Boris I surrender,
Take my freedom, it’s all thine;
Let me have thy saving vaccine,
Truly know that this is fine.
(Chorus)
4.
All to Boris I surrender,
Now I feel the sacred jab.
Oh, the joy of full salvation!
Glory, I can use a cab!
(Chorus)
Round-up
- “Lockdowns have killed millions” – Swedish doctor Sebastian Rushworth reiterating the recent conclusions of the Karolinska Institutet in his country
- “Nasty Nick incites pro-vax ‘lynch mob‘” – Nick Cohen has written an unpleasant column in the Observer hinting at impending conflict between what he sees as the sensible jabbed majority and the deluded fringe who refuse. Niall McCrae in Unity News Network is unimpressed
- “Spit for freedom” – Jonathan Saxty in the Critic wonders whether a new kind of test could save a lot of hassle
- “Government and little people: the democratic divide in Danandrewstan” – Cian Hussey of the Institute of Public Affairs writes in the Spectator Australia of the problem of the sheltered elites vs the poor saps that have to suffer the consequences of their decisions in Victoria, governed by surely one of the most draconian leaders in the Anglosphere, Dan Andrews
- “Heil the vaccine apartheid!” – Provocative piece by Laura Perrins in Conservative Woman
- “The number of children in care has increased during the pandemic” – Harry Phibbs at Conservative Home with news of yet more collateral damage suffered by the young
- “Experts call Peel guidelines to place children in solitary quarantine ‘cruel punishment’” – The Toronto Sun reports that even in Canada there are experts who think public health advice can be a bit OTT, after advice was given to totally isolate children at home apart from their own families if one of their classmates had tested positive
- “Inside the race to create a vaccine passport” – Steve Boggan in UnHerd with an (uncritical) article about the various cogs whirring into motion to get vaccine passports running smoothly
- “Growing trend in the US of ‘double masking’ prompts Government scientists to consider updating latest advice” – Telegraph reporting that PHE is going to ‘follow the science’ and recommend triple-masking here too
- “End the lockdown on protest” – Tom Slater in spiked on the fight for civil liberties after Priti Patel threatened to extend emergency anti-protesting laws
- “Screw the sex ban” – Also in spiked, Emily Hill reckons there isn’t time to waste in the search for love
- “Substantial meal policy may have discriminated against BAME customers in pubs, High Court rules” – Ewan Somerville in the Telegraph on one of the many problems with the now scrapped ‘Scotch Egg Rule’
- RAF Luton posted a tweet earlier about their efforts to enforce social distancing rules. Thankfully, no such air force base exists.
Theme Tunes Suggested by Readers
Eight today: “Life is for Living” by the Malopoets, “Chaos is my Life” by The Exploited, “Do Nothing” by The Specials, “Take Back the Land” by Oi Polloi, “You’ve Got a Lot to Answer For” by Catatonia, “Shake the Disease” by Depeche Mode, “Clock is Running ” by Seasick Steve and “The Revolution Will Not Be Televised” by Gill Scott Heron.
Love in the Time of Covid
We have created some Lockdown Sceptics Forums, including a dating forum called “Love in a Covid Climate” that has attracted a bit of attention. We have a team of moderators in place to remove spam and deal with the trolls, but sometimes it takes a little while so please bear with us. You have to register to use the Forums as well as post comments below the line, but that should just be a one-time thing. Any problems, email Lockdown Sceptics here.
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Woke Gobbledegook
We’ve decided to create a permanent slot down here for woke gobbledegook. Today, we have an extract from “There is No Such Thing as White Math”, in which Princeton mathematics Professor Sergiu Klainerman laments how even STEM subjects have begun to succumb to woke gobbledegook.
Like children all over the world, I was attracted to mathematics because of its formal beauty, the elegance and precision of its arguments, and the unique sense of achievement I was able to get by finding the right answer to a difficult problem. Mathematics also granted me an escape from the intoxicating daily drum of party propaganda – a refuge from the crushing atmosphere of political and ideological conformity.
The woke ideology, on the other hand, treats both science and mathematics as social constructs and condemns the way they are practiced, in research and teaching, as manifestations of white supremacy, euro-centrism, and post-colonialism.
Take for example the recent educational program called “A pathway to equitable math instruction”. The program is backed financially by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation; it counts among its partners the Lawrence Hall of Science at U.C. Berkeley, the California Math project, the Association of California School Administrators, and the Los Angeles County Office of Education, among others; and it was recently sent to Oregon teachers by the state’s Department of Education.
The program argues that “white supremacy culture shows up in the classroom when the focus is on getting the ‘right’ answer” or when students are required to show their work, while stipulating that the very “concept of mathematics being purely objective is unequivocally false”. The main goal of the program is “to dismantle racism in mathematics instruction” with the expressly political aim of engaging “the sociopolitical turn in all aspects of education, including mathematics”.
In the past, I would have said that such statements should be ignored as too radical and absurd to merit refutation. But recent trends across the country suggest that we no longer have that luxury.
So let me state the following for the record: Nothing in the history and current practice of mathematics justifies the notion that it is in any way different or dependent on the particular race or ethnic group engaged in it.
For historical reasons, we often discuss contributions to the field of mathematics from the Egyptians, Babylonians, Greeks, Chinese, Indians and Arabs and refer to them as distinct entities. They have all contributed through a unique cultural dialogue to the creation of a truly magnificent edifice accessible today to every man and woman on the planet. Though we pay tribute to great historical figures who inform the practice of mathematics, the subject can be taught – and often is – with no reference to the individuals who have contributed to it. In that sense it is uniquely universal.
Schools throughout the world teach the same basic body of mathematics. They differ only by the methodology and intensity with which they instruct students.
It is precisely this universality of math – together with the extraordinary ability of American universities to reward hard work and talent – that allowed me, and so many other young scientists and mathematicians, to come to this country and achieve success beyond our wildest dreams.
The idea that focusing on getting the “right answer” is now considered among some self-described progressives a form of bias or racism is offensive and extraordinarily dangerous. The entire study of mathematics is based on clearly formulated definitions and statements of fact. If this were not so, bridges would collapse, planes would fall from the sky, and bank transactions would be impossible.
Worth reading in full.
Stop Press: Sir Kazuo Ishiguro says that young writers may be self-censoring to avoid the ire of woke mobs. The BBC has more.
Sir Kazuo, who won the Nobel Prize in Literature in 2017, warned that a “climate of fear” was preventing some people from writing what they want.
He said they may be concerned that an “anonymous lynch mob will turn up online and make their lives a misery”.
He told the BBC: “I very much fear for the younger generation of writers.”
The 66-year-old said he was worried that less established authors were self-censoring by avoiding writing from certain viewpoints or including characters outside their immediate experiences.
“I think that is a dangerous state of affairs,” added the acclaimed author, whose works include The Remains of the Day and Never Let Me Go.
He said he was particularly troubled about young writers “who rightly perhaps feel that their careers are more fragile, their reputations are more fragile and they don’t want to take risks”.
His comments come after a number of freedom of speech disputes, with writers being “cancelled” or facing threats to boycott their work. High-profile targets have included J.K. Rowling, Julie Burchill and Jeanine Cummins.
Sir Kazuo, however, who received a knighthood in 2019, said he was not worried about being “cancelled”.
“I think I’m in a privileged and relatively protected position because I’m a very established author,” he said. “I’m the age I am. I have a reputation. Perhaps it’s an illusion but I think I’m protected.”
Worth reading in full.
“Mask Exempt” Lanyards
We’ve created a one-stop shop down here for people who want to obtain a “Mask Exempt” lanyard/card – because wearing a mask causes them “severe distress”, for instance. You can print out and laminate a fairly standard one for free here and the Government has instructions on how to download an official “Mask Exempt” notice to put on your phone here. And if you feel obliged to wear a mask but want to signal your disapproval of having to do so, you can get a “sexy world” mask with the Swedish flag on it here.
A reader has started a website that contains some useful guidance about how you can claim legal exemption. Another reader has created an Android app which displays “I am exempt from wearing a face mask” on your phone. Only 99p.
If you’re a shop owner and you want to let your customers know you will not be insisting on face masks or asking them what their reasons for exemption are, you can download a friendly sign to stick in your window here.
And here’s an excellent piece about the ineffectiveness of masks by a Roger W. Koops, who has a doctorate in organic chemistry. See also the Swiss Doctor’s thorough review of the scientific evidence here and Prof Carl Heneghan and Dr Tom Jefferson’s Spectator article about the Danish mask study here.
The Great Barrington Declaration
The Great Barrington Declaration, a petition started by Professor Martin Kulldorff, Professor Sunetra Gupta and Professor Jay Bhattacharya calling for a strategy of “Focused Protection” (protect the elderly and the vulnerable and let everyone else get on with life), was launched in October and the lockdown zealots have been doing their best to discredit it ever since. If you googled it a week after launch, the top hits were three smear pieces from the Guardian, including: “Herd immunity letter signed by fake experts including ‘Dr Johnny Bananas’.” (Freddie Sayers at UnHerd warned us about this the day before it appeared.) On the bright side, Google UK has stopped shadow banning it, so the actual Declaration now tops the search results – and Toby’s Spectator piece about the attempt to suppress it is among the top hits – although discussion of it has been censored by Reddit. In February, Facebook deleted the GBD’s page because it “goes against our community standards”. The reason the zealots hate it, of course, is that it gives the lie to their claim that “the science” only supports their strategy. These three scientists are every bit as eminent – more eminent – than the pro-lockdown fanatics so expect no let up in the attacks. (Wikipedia has also done a smear job.)
You can find it here. Please sign it. Now over three quarters of a million signatures.
Update: The authors of the GBD have expanded the FAQs to deal with some of the arguments and smears that have been made against their proposal. Worth reading in full.
Update 2: Many of the signatories of the Great Barrington Declaration are involved with new UK anti-lockdown campaign Recovery. Find out more and join here.
Update 3: You can watch Sunetra Gupta set out the case for “Focused Protection” here and Jay Bhattacharya make it here.
Update 4: The three GBD authors plus Prof Carl Heneghan of CEBM have launched a new website collateralglobal.org, “a global repository for research into the collateral effects of the COVID-19 lockdown measures”. Follow Collateral Global on Twitter here. Sign up to the newsletter here.
Judicial Reviews Against the Government
There are now so many legal cases being brought against the Government and its ministers we thought we’d include them all in one place down here.
The Simon Dolan case has now reached the end of the road. The current lead case is the Robin Tilbrook case which challenges whether the Lockdown Regulations are constitutional, although that case, too, has been refused permission to proceed. There’s still one more thing that can be tried. You can read about that and contribute here.
The GoodLawProject and three MPs – Debbie Abrahams, Caroline Lucas and Layla Moran – brought a Judicial Review against Matt Hancock for failing to publish details of lucrative contracts awarded by his department and it was upheld. The Court ruled Hancock had acted unlawfully.
Then there’s John’s Campaign which is focused specifically on care homes. Find out more about that here.
There’s the GoodLawProject and Runnymede Trust’s Judicial Review of the Government’s award of lucrative PPE contracts to various private companies. You can find out more about that here and contribute to the crowdfunder here.
Scottish Church leaders from a range of Christian denominations have launched legal action, supported by the Christian Legal Centre against the Scottish Government’s attempt to close churches in Scotland for the first time since the the Stuart kings in the 17th century. The church leaders emphasised it is a disproportionate step, and one which has serious implications for freedom of religion.” Further information available here.
There’s the class action lawsuit being brought by Dr Reiner Fuellmich and his team in various countries against “the manufacturers and sellers of the defective product, PCR tests”. Dr Fuellmich explains the lawsuit in this video. Dr Fuellmich has also served cease and desist papers on Professor Christian Drosten, co-author of the Corman-Drosten paper which was the first and WHO-recommended PCR protocol for detection of SARS-CoV-2. That paper, which was pivotal to the roll out of mass PCR testing, was submitted to the journal Eurosurveillance on January 21st and accepted following peer review on January 22nd. The paper has been critically reviewed here by Pieter Borger and colleagues, who also submitted a retraction request, which was rejected in February.
And last but not least there was the Free Speech Union‘s challenge to Ofcom over its ‘coronavirus guidance’. A High Court judge refused permission for the FSU’s judicial review on December 9th and the FSU has decided not to appeal the decision because Ofcom has conceded most of the points it was making. Check here for details.
Samaritans
If you are struggling to cope, please call Samaritans for free on 116 123 (UK and ROI), email jo@samaritans.org or visit the Samaritans website to find details of your nearest branch. Samaritans is available round the clock, every single day of the year, providing a safe place for anyone struggling to cope, whoever they are, however they feel, whatever life has done to them.
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Toby and James Delingpole have recorded their weekly episode of London Calling. In this edition, they discuss Peter Hitchens’s decision to have the jab – he and James were going at it like rats in a sack on Twitter yesterday – as well as Harry and Meghan’s upcoming moan fest, Toby’s career advice to James Corden (delivered in person at the GQ Man of the Year awards) and the novels of Bernard Cornwell.
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Fizzies
Good morning everyone, or afternoon/evening depending on where you are in the world
Third!
Trader Joe’s grocery chain fires mask lunatic employee:
Trader Joe’s Worker Fired After Asking for ‘3 Strike’ Mask Policy (breitbart.com)
Nice to see there’s still a bit of common sense in the world!
That employee probably made everyone’s work life an absolute misery. I have no time for little hitlers at work
Wasn’t there a recent vid of a mask free flashmob at Trader Joe’s ?
This one The Day Masks Died (Trader Joe’s Santa Cruz — Mirror)
Yes, that’s the one, thanks.
I have to admire those brave souls. It takes a lot of courage to face down such mob hatred from people who are unwilling to think for themselves but who really believe they occupy the moral highground.
What is it with the masks? His letter talks relentlessly about aeresol transmission and he still believes those things can help. Idiotic stuff. He’s just trying to outshine his echo chamber on ‘staying safe’. No doubt he sees working at Trader Joe’s some kind of front line
Trader Joe’s is owned by Aldi. Not a lot of people know that.
Morning. Is it over yet? 😛
Nearly midday for me!!
Morning! Just waking up! Are you in Oz then? I hope they open the borders soon so I can see my son!
It’s just the end of the beginning!
Onward to victory, soldiers! If Churchill’s mob could stick it out, so can we.
We should have a countdown clock at the top of the page, counting down until July 1st when all this is predicted to end.
..and Dripford still hasn’t confirmed that it does so as well for those of us in Gulag Wales yet……….
Keep getting this vision of Mussolini hung out to dry …
Read this morning in Independent that the holidays might be cancelled because of the Brazilian variant! Why or why do papers keep writing all this tripe? I’m not a violent person but I now feel like lining up quite a few of them and getting out my « mitraillette »! On a positivé note, yesterday I met someone who is doing some skilled work for me in the house, and is totally on my page, so we had a good rant! He reckons there are 1 in 10 like us, which isn’t a lot to bring on a revolution!
6.5 million people fed up of this shit will always outshine the subservient fearful majority if they just stand up together and say “enough!”
No end in sight for us in Ireland.
We were on the same side as the government in 1940.
I remember the good old days of last April when I would wake up expecting it all to be over. Excitedly waiting to see the headlines announcing that the curve was flattened.
Then it transmogrified into hoping the military had performed a coup overnight.
Now…?
As an out and about key worker I was expecting exactly the same especially as medics were telling me that the worst was over and it was never so bad as had been predicted.
This expectation was reinforced when I realised that ambulances had stopped roaming around the empty streets with their sirens wailing for the sole purpose of reinforcing the atmosphere of fear.
Yep – I can confirm that I was also daft enough at the time to believe “3 weeks” meant 3 weeks. You live and learn……
I was on a video call with work colleagues when so said what about xmas parties? (we work in catering).
I said “don’t be daft, it will be finished end of May latest!”
… and, of course, the military were a key part of the attack on the people.
Yawn. The Year of the Doolally Tap.
I was daft enough to believe that people would start rebelling if it went on for much more than 3 weeks. I vastly underestimated the power of media and government brainwashing and the gullibility of most of the population.
I read about Peter Hitchens and his having had the covid-19 vaccine. I can completely understand his reasons for having it. Although i am younger than him I too will be compelled to have it because i want to travel.
No doubt unlike the Yellow Fever vaccine for which exemptions can be made there won’t be for this one.
Yellow fever is a very serious infection – sorry can’t quote the death rate from this but the point is that Covid-19 is, in many cases a mild to moderate respiratory infection.
As ever big pharma wins and it is us lab-rats that will pay the price.
You and Peter may be able to travel but what sort of society will you both be living in?
…and who will take care of them both if they get a vax injury and need carers? I’m afraid I’ve already followed the advice for one of “Your choice is not my burden” (ie I wouldnt be a carer).
Both Judy and Peter Hitchens have made a perfectly rational choice, given their circumstances – fully aware of what it implies.
It’s not my choice – but I’m not into virtue signalling, either, which seems to be a major side effect of Covid – on both sides.
Thank you
Your vaccine choice is a personal decision, don’t advertise it to demoralize everyone else, or don’t complain when you’re labelled a cowardly collaborator.
Have some principles for god’s sake.
Hold off.
This is an anti-lockdown site, not an anti-vaccine site. People here – and anywhere, come to that – are free to decide whether or not to take the snake oil. They may be obeying urgent imperatives which other people here are unaffected by.
We know that some of the brethren and systren here wear face nappies, from fear of the zombie mob or the rozzers or the fines or whatever. We accept that. We should accept vaxxers as well, and listen to their arguments.
But this isn’t a vaccine, it’s a therapy. It’s being pushed on people When it’s only got approval for “emergency use”, which is completely unacceptable as there are many drugs available to treat “covid”. This so-called vaccine is the REASON we are in lockdown. If you are anti lockdown you should oppose this experimental drug they are peddling as a “vaccine”. The idea it will be required for travel is literally a rumour. Travel is most likely going to be banned forever except for the elite. Until it is stated, explicitly, that you have to have this jab if you want to travel (which should be stopped immediately as it’s a breach of human rights), you are taking it under some misguided assumption that you won’t be able to travel without it. That just fuels the machine and keeps us in lockdown. Sinister but there it is!
You are 100% correct.
Great post
Indeed.
Agreed. It’s the same mode of thought which leads some people to wear masks when or where they aren’t mandatory, just so that they can get used to them in case they become mandatory. All that it does is to make it easier for the authorities to make them mandatory-“Look, lots of people are doing it already, what’s the problem?”
That is exactly right.They use this treat of unable to travel to force vaccination on council workers(posted about this weeks ago and the Vaccine hesitancy nurses). My family all live abroad and I have already told them that maybe,maybe,I will take the vaccine in a couple years time when at least it gets past the testing stage. My mum notified me that her and my dad are both getting it,so is my sister and her husband and that I’m not welcome in their house until I have it. I think I swore at my mother for the first time since I was about 18 .
Good on you! My father did something similar last week – pushed me out his life and the family for not wanting to gat the vax. Told him ‘my body, my choice’ after I told him to grow up. He’s properly fed into all the fear porn. It took a few days for him to come around but I was prepared to stand up for what I believe in and be ostracised by one half of my family.
A tad harsh for a Tuesday morning ol’ bean. I’m only on my first cup of green tea what. 🙂
What I can’t understand is – why do people feel threatened if they’ve ”had it” and therefore presumably consider themselves ”protected”?
Exactly!!
Yes of course travel will remain banned – have people not been paying attention to the elites trying to shame people, pre-covid, about using air-travel while they continue to jet around the world to attend parties and ‘global warming’ events?
Peter Hitchens works for the Daily Mail for crying out loud. This rag is one of the forerunners in stirring up shit. Controlled opposition works by rallying people to a common cause (usually against the government) and subduing it, then ultimately neutralising it.
Peter Hitchens has been like a lighthouse without a bulb. He is controlled opposition.
If you’re still fighting lockdown you’ve lost!
Nothing I wrote was anti vaccine, its was anti authoritarianism! Anti-loss of body autonomy, anti-dictatorship, anti-propaganda!
Hitchens went out & batted for the other side on Sunday. Anyone who campaigns against lockdowns & then capitulates to government bullying is no better than a lockdown zealot.
If after compliance & conformity you collaborate with the dictator, you are a traitor!
Agreed 100%!
Thing is, I would question ALL vaccines from now on. I heard they are thinking of making even common ones a gene therapy.
And seeing how DISGUSTING the medical profession is I don’t trust a single one.
Don’t want to upset you but there are a number of medicines which use recombinant DNA in their manufacture, e.g. insulins, and they’re absolutely fine. There’s about as much danger there as in the Frankenstein GM foods that out next king witters on about. After all, with his level of academic attainment he must know what he’s talking about LOFL.
Also, the reason why the vaccines went through the MHRA approval process so damn quick is that everything else in there for approval has been delayed.
I’m just repeating second hand stuff I’ve heard. I odn’t really bother being too accurate with much of what I wriet. After I wrote that I kind of knew it was bull shit.
WHatever, they are certainly getting involved with other established vaccines for no other rreason than profit.
Thank you
I’m with you, Judy. Don’t let the insults get under your skin.nInsulting honest allies is not whai this site should be about.
Who insulted anyone?
If these “vaccines” turn out to be dangerous, there’s no place for politeness. This is about our children’s & grand children’s futures surrender now & they are doomed to tyranny.
To vaccinate is a personal private matter, I do not attempt to talk people out of vaccination, so people shouldn’t try to blackmail others into it.
Anyone risking their long-term health to go abroad is a shallow idiot in my eyes, anyone who surrenders their principles at the first opportunity to appease a dictator is a cowardly traitor!
If the ‘experimental’ treatments turn out to be dangerous we of course will never know about it. Prof Delores Cahill says that the effects would start after 6-8months, for many of the elderly (that survived the original cull) or even the over 65’s, that will mean the autumn onwards. coinciding neatly with the next respiratory virus season, Covid21 and another lockdown. There is already talk of a serious flu season, therefore its in the pipeline already.
We’ll know, we will just be stopped talking about it.
Whether the vaccine is safe or dangerous is completely besides the point. It is the compulsion of it, the stripping of previously held freedoms unless one takes it that is the problem.
Even if it is 100% safe we are handing over autonomy over our own bodies to the state. We become nothing more than slaves.
For what? To travel?
Anyone who doesn’t want to be vaccinated but does so just to travel is contributing to the enslavement of themselves and the rest of us. That’s just a fact.
If we reach the point where we can’t get a job, a mortgage, medical attention or even buy food without having to show proof of vaccination, I would understand reluctant submission. But, “I want to travel,” seems a little feeble to me. We are talking about the destruction of liberty in the western world. It is sinister and terrifying: particularly because it is being effected so easily by the perpetrators and accepted so meekly by the masses. But this is so enormously important, not only for us but for future generations, that why would anyone who can see what is being done and who opposes the principle of totalitarianism give in without fighting to the last? Peter Hitchens says the fight is lost but I am determined that it isn’t. We might be greatly un-numbered and victory might be a forlorn hope but we must battle on, surely?
I find it frightening how many people I know who have had the vaccine, or are planning to have it, who justify it with “I want to be able to travel” It’s become yet another mantra bleated by the masses. I suppose I should be grateful that they don’t say it’s to protect everyone else!
But, I have concluded that these people are (i) completely unaware of the potential risks (ii) are in denial that any adverse reactions might happen to them, or (iii) put quite simply, are insane.
Yes – and our numbers are growing. This is not the time to capitulate.
And we can’t go on the ultimate journey because they have made Nembutal illegal!
It is ILLEGAL to humanely kill onself to escape their HELL, so one is driven to the rope instead.
Spot on!
I think we will know. Something like Bells Palsy for instance is a lot harder to hide (because it’s something the vast majority of us had barely heard about) than a heart attack for instance (which could be “own” illness and it might be difficult to disentangle whether a heart attack was one’s “own” illness or “vax-induced” illness.
But you ignore the fact that nobody gives a shit any more, even parents for their own children.
Pregnant mothers posting on instagram for virtue signal points that they are being vaccinated, then suffering miscarriage and virtue signalling about that.
THis is POSThuman.
NOBODY GIVE S ADAMN
Don’t be so hostile. There’s a big difference between “going abroad” and wanting to see your family or regain your homeland again.
The problem for me is the pre-empting of the vaxpass. It is an admission of defeat, that “They” have already won – which I refuse to believe.
This is the thing – the covid vaccine is no ordinary vaccine. I don’t even like to call it ‘experimental’ because with experiments, you don’t quite know what the result will be. I believe they know fine-well what this drug will do.
Annie,
You are of course correct that we should not be insulting people here. We need to maintain unity (with differences of opinion on details) and civility in debate. Nevertheless, as someone who also needs to travel for family not leisure reasons, I agree with CivilianNotCov, that it makes no sense to take the vaccine until you have to. Vaccine passports are not a fait accompli, especially if enough people resist. And conversely, it may also be the case that people find they are still not able to travel even if vaccinated (or will be subject to same restrictions). So, I will be resisting as long as poss.
Disappointed, therefore, at Hitchens, but no way would I criticize people for very difficult personal choices. (I know Steve Martindale is another one in such an unenviable position.)
Totally with you there. I was planning to travel the world, but feel it more important to resist compulsory vaccination while we still can. I know I am lucky in that I’m not in a vulnerable category, so it is easier for me to make that decision.
I agree with you, one hundred per cent. We need to wait to see how things pan out, and not give in to threats.
”Say not the struggle naught availeth…
if hopes were dupes, fears may be liars…”
And we don’t yet know.
The reason for this lockdown is the vaccine.The 2 are linked.
Vernon’s Coleman’s first video from March 2020 stated then that he thought there were two hidden agenda’s to all this- of course he has added more as time has gone on. They were effectively 1) culling the elderly- tick this has happened and 2) forcing a vaccine- tick this is happening. You are right they are spinning a lockdown that isn’t neccessary to force as many people as possible into taking it.
Correct.
Exactly, and it is at this moment that Peter Hitchens turned his coat and showed that he is all in for team evil.
You are 100% correct.
Yes. Submit people to a year of whipped up fear and social isolation and then offer them the elixir of life and freedom. Of course it has been about the vaccine so far but the next stage in the grand plan is what keeps me awake at night, partly because I suspect the tertiary phase includes a bit about what to do with the dissenters.
That’s where I find myself too!
And the reason for the “vaccine” is the vaxpass!
Sorry Annie, if you wear a mask, you collaborate in the lockdown narrative and jeopardise my 7 grandkids future. Even the government website says you can exempt yourself so there is absolutely no excuse whatsoever.
I don’t ever wear a mask.I’d die rather. But I know that some people here do, and I know why.
If you were a churchgoer, and you’d been berated by your vicar for several minutes for not wearing a mask, while the rest of the sheeple congregation glared at you over their nappies, you’d understand why some people give in. I didn’t give in, and I didn’t put on the mask that was thrust at me by a churchwarden. But I’m never going inside that church again, never, never, in life or in death.
And I am NOT taking responsibility for your grandkids. Or for your granny.
That’s the spirit!
I agree. No one is responsible for someone else’s grandkids, like no one is responsible for someone else catching a virus or dying. The “blame and shame” game that has been played throughout this is disgusting. Bring back individual responsibility. Bring back critical thinking. Bring back the right to protest. Bring back liberal democracy.
Indeed.
I’m thinking you may have to TAKE your rights back. Nobody will bring them.
That wouldn’t have been my definition of Christianity either! Am no longer a Christian – but I’ve literally walked out of a church before now (albeit for a totally different reason) but it was because they were being anti-Christian imo. One can/should throw moneylenders (and vax centres!!!!) out of the temple/church – but not people who just want to take part in a service.
You should have spat in the face of that wicked DEVIL vicar
He was way up in the pulpit, I couldn’t reach.
Some people absolutely cannot tolerate confrontation without being made extremely unwell. I haven’t worn a mask this year, but I did from when they were mandated in shops last year for a while because of my autism, severe anxiety and many other problems that are exacerbated by stress. My life is pretty hellish. Anyone confronting me would have set off a hell of a scene and made me even iller than I am, as a knock on effect of the ‘melt down’. As I live a lone, I didn’t want that. Now I don’t give a toss. If I’m going to die, I might as well go down fighting, but I totally understand why some people, a small minority, might be too frightened of the consequences of confrontation. It is in fact this that angers me more (if that is possible) than the bollocks being spouted by SAGE and the government.
Most of us on here have spent a year arguing for personal freedom, responsibility and choice. In my view, although this whole debacle makes me sick, that applies to vaccines too.
You can’t use the same playbook as the zealots, that makes you a zealot.
It was Mr H himself that conflated the two.
I agree that it is upto each individual what they decide and noone should judge the other. I think the concern for many is that people are already “giving in” to the manipulation and coercion. Giving in mainly due to travel, and yet noone can travel right now anyway regardless of a vaccine, or certainly not from the UK so why not resist and keep fighting for now? I have in mind people like Hitchens but it applies to anyone else. And it feels like this moment in time is absolutely crucial to any kind of resistance- crucial to not give in, to stand your ground and to see which way this will go. And yes this may mean not travelling for a little while which will be very difficult if you have family overseas which many do have. And yes they will make every attempt to bring in these passports and clearly there will be a European one from today’s news. It will all be legally challenged as it breaks so many laws and frankly many Europeans do not want the vaccine, many more than here so how can it effectively work?. It’s a complete mess and then you… Read more »
Quite agree. Your arguments are good.
Argument is the way forward. Not berating and insulting people who are actually your friends and allies – and honest with it.
Agreed 100 pc Suzy. I am British but have dual citizenship with America and will never be vaccinated despite knowing that I may never see my oldest and dearest friends in that country, or walk along its beautiful shores or hike through its breathtaking national parks and forests again.
Please look up vaccine adverse events report for the USA. A very disturbing picture.
You can’t resist vaccine compulsion on the basis that it’s dangerous because what if in the end the overall risk is considered to be very very small? Where are you left?
Compulsion to take a vaccine is wrong even if it’s safe.
yes, once you surrender your own bodily autonomy, where does it end? today you have the right introduce something into me through a needle, why then tomorrow shouldn’t you have the right to stick your prick up my ass? let’s abolish rape, shall we? assault? if I feel like belting someone in the face, then why the hell not? murder – go for it. organ harvesting? great idea. this is where the abandonment of principles and ethics leads – frankly to hell
Sorry Suzy but as far as the UK is concerned the “law” is no longer working. The courts have shown they are unprepared to touch all this – and when they do, in the case of the covid Contracts, what is the outcome for the Health Secretary? Nothing. He just persist with his policy and says he was right to do what he did, next question please. And as for the laws which all of this is breaking – well, all you have to do is repeal them on grounds of “national emergency”. HRA is already under review which I predicted about 8 months ago. If HRA goes, which seems to be a foregone conclusion, then it is open season on all kinds of discrimination.
Vaccine?????
FULLY informed consent?????
Thank you Annie, I am (in your words) a vaxxer but myself and my younger son have come close to being ostracised by the rest of our family for our stance on lockdown.
I don’t think that the vaccine does any good or any harm either way and covid will and is being defeated by herd immunity.
The “masses” have chosen their toys to play with and eventually they will tire of them and find something else to play with.
What we have to do now is (as PH says; to stop the madness going any further, ie: masks in public places and certainly to stop any backsliding on the government’s end to all lockdown rules.
Informed consent, i’m informing you, vaccines have killed at least 400 people, that’s by official figures reported by government. 400 people that would be alive now if they hadn’t had a vaccination.
It’s your personal private decision, you don’t have to justify or debate it. But don’t spread misinformation, or deceive others with, it did me no harm so its good enough for everyone else.
I’m not anti-well-developed necessary vaccines, these aren’t them. The vaccine has an agenda & no one has the right to force or coerce either way. That includes propaganda.
Please read the Vader from the us cdc. There appear to be more than a few adverse events, including deaths post vaccination. It is all public record.
VAERS site for adverse reactions. Yes it’s public domain
No, AS, it is my own personal opinion and I respect your’s and everybody’s opinions.
I take your point about the 400 vaccine deaths.
No harm??? People have literally died of heart attacks within weeks of receiving the vaccine. But apparently that’s just unfortunate. It’s okay if 400 people die as long as 20 million don’t. Why was it then NOT okay for anyone to die of “covid”? Why was it spread around that children should be denied education and single people denied the right to have sex with someone outside of their household because ONE person might die of a virus. It’s insanity.
I refer you to the reply I gave to AS.
I take your points.
Always clear, witty, suitably scathing and in line with (at least) my thinking
I’m against vaccine coercion, which for me is lockdown’s twin. Judy’s post implies that she’s being coerced.
But it’s her choice of course. People will reluctantly choose to have the vaccine for many diverse reasons, and many will use ‘travel’ as their public pretext (not saying that’s the case with Judy of course).
If people want to have the vaccine we should respect that, and they should respect those of us who don’t want it.
Thing is, I suspect that before long the vaccine passport business will fall apart, and many people who were intimidated into having the jab may then regret it.
They certainly will regret it if we refuse to be carers to them for any vax-induced illness they get. Their choice is not our burden.
I often ask myself, what if the vaccines do carry serious and widespread side effects. We really will be a segregated society then.
And where will this leave the rest of us who didn’t take the poison?
How will you know the illness is vax induced? Only good quality medical research can establish this. Such research has been blocked for the past forty years, and will continue to be so.
Unfortunately Annie, Some people are unaware of their own contradictions. But, we’ll have to rub along somehow, because what’s at stake, is so far beyond the personal, we who are capable, must do our best to go higher, to make up for those incapable of doing so.
It’s not about accepting a vaccine. It’s admitting that you will take the coercion, whether it is for an experimental treatment or not. This opens the door to anything now. First covid, they can be compelled to sign up to all the other mRNA treatments in the pipeline. Just read this and weep
https://www.modernatx.com/pipeline
They have further plans. You didn’t even wait until these passports were in. Neither did Hitchens. It doesn’t send out a great signal as to how much resistance there is out there to authoritarianism
Chilling – can you imagine the state your body would be in after you had had all of those? You’d barely be able to spell your own name never mind operate as a functioning human being!!
You cannot separate the issue of the vaccine and the lockdown.
Thank you, Annie, for a bit of realism.
Let’s face it – the hobby-horse riders here provide far more ammunition to the opposition than a tribe of Hitchens’s.
I think the point anti-socialist is making is with reference to the reasons PH gives. He doesn’t just state it is for travel, which is a bit strange anyway considering passports are yet to be a reality, but his capitulation to the situation, his cries of hopelessness of opposing the tyranny as a pointless effort. He even tweeted that sceptics had lost the fight. Thus AS point of demoralising people, which I completely agree with. How successful would the black rights movement have been if King had just thrown the towel in when faced with adversity.
I think he threw the towel in rather early.
You’re right BUT getting vaxxed in order to get your vaxpass before they’re even introduced will simply hasten their actual implementation. It just plays into the hands of the government.
If/when the vaxpass is actually a requirement, then I’d say it’s a different ballgame.
It must be remembered that the vaxpass isn’t merely about freedom to travel abroad. If that were the case, it wouldn’t be such a big deal. However, it’s actually the key to a whole raft of draconian measures TPTB are itching to implement.
International travel is the carrot they are dangling to ensure vaccine uptake.
Mass tourism is over.Read Agenda 21/30.
They only win if you let them. Collectively by saying no, they have no business model. Your subservient attitude is what allows them to win. Your body, your choice. As a woman I would have thought that is an ethos you strongly believe in and support.
I did read somewhere last week that the death rate fro Yellow Fever is overall in the region of 7% but if you have a serious bout then its 50%.
Does that even make sense? Surely it’s 7% or 50%. If you get very ill and die then obviously it’s more serious but you can’t simultaneously have both a 7% and 50% chance of death from the same thing?
make sure you do your research before you make that irreversible decision. at best, [IF they abide by their promises] you may be allowed to travel for at most another 5 years before you succumb to a horrible and painful death. on the other hand, since the alternative is to spend those 5 years [at most] in the gulag, possibly being tortured, and ending with a more conventional form of state assassination, then maybe your decision to ‘go along to get along’ is not entirely irrational. we’re not in a great situation here. I think if I were young and baggage-free I would probably emigrate to somewhere like Africa or South America, another contributor on here the other day suggested Patagonia. Obviously you would have to go soon before the window of opportunity to escape closes forever. I think I have made the decision that I simply have no desire to survive without the people who give my life its entire meaning. so I’m resigned to my fate. I won’t take the vaccine, simply as a matter of registering my feeble protest. I would like to get hold of some kind of suicide pill to spare myself either enforced vaccination… Read more »
I’m much in sympathy with you. I don’t know how this has been planned out and I don’t know how it will play out – though obviously concerned in case of “worst case analysis” proving to be accurate about what plans there are. But the jury is out in my mind re exactly what I think will happen. I just keep my options open – and my two packs of portable barbecues and carbon monoxide detector to hand for indoor use if need arises to escape that way. A second option (of 24-30 paracetamol – yes I was surprised how few that actually is….) but that wouldn’t be my preference – as I’d rather just do a pain & discomfort free falling asleep. But my own choice is to live out remaining estimated 15 year lifespan and all back to as it was in 2019.
I told my wife something similar. If it comes to it I will put a gun to my head and check out, Japanese WW2 style.I will not live in a tyrannical NWO 1984 world,not worth it.
I agree. I cannot see myself taking the ‘vaccine’ even though I may need it to travel to Spain where my house and partner are. Not only for fear of side effects but because I simply refuse to give in to tyranny. I will fight on as long as possible. If it does get to the stage where a vaccine passport is needed for any quality of life then I will be checking out of this world, because I simply could not bear to live in such a society.
I’ve looked. Nembutal is difficult to get hold of.
PAINLESSPATH.ORG is a SCAM site, sadly. Though I thought it was real.
Then I found out that it is actually ILLEGAL to purchase Nembutal in the United Kingdom.
Someone here suggested YEW LEAVES and I am researching that. However, I think it will probably end up being the good old rope.
Rope is extremely traumatic for whoever finds you.
Trauma? Too fucking much of that these days.
People need to man up and stop being such cry babies.
A bbq smouldering in bedroom with no windows open
I don’t want to encourage anyone to do anything irrevocable, but rebreathing nitrogen is painless and completely lethal. Just absorb the oxygen out of a given quantity of air.
No need for rope- too technical re decapitation, slow strangulation etc.The yew may hurt. Berries better than leaves but dosage? Wolfs bane/monks hood/aconitum will do the trick but very unpleasant by all accounts. Disposable barbecues seem to be the method de jour. Lit and left to smoulder in an enclosed space while you doze amidst. My son’s mate managed it quite efficiently in a tent at the back end of last year.
I go back to my country France regularly as I have family and a house there, but I will not give in! The health consequences are too great and unknown, and I will take them to court if necessary, Nuremberg code and human rights.
Hi Judy
Big pharma hasn’t won yet! Can I urge you to leave the decision until the last possible moment.
The more who hold off from the vaccine, the more impossible a vaccine passport regime will become. They haven’t even started on the under-40’s in the UK, who know that they have no need of it, and who see the end of covid already here, to all intents and purposes.
I suspect you may just need a negative Lateral Flow test before you travel – far better than signing up to lifetime of annual ‘vaccines’.
I have frequently seen yellow fever used as an example of why a covid vaccine would not be the first mandatory travel vaccine. But in reality, for most of us in the western world, yellow fever vax is not mandatory. I recall having it for travel on holiday to Kenya in the 1980s as it was an ‘advisory’ vaccine. I have checked online and it is still ‘advisory’ for travel from the UK to the principal African holiday destinations. I didn’t check every African country so there may be the odd exception and I am happy to be corrected.
The standard rules for yellow fever are that if passengers are travelling from a designated yellow fever (infected) country, or via such a country, to a country with yellow fever restrictions they must carry evidence of vaccination. But travellers travelling to an African country directly from a non yellow fever country are not required to have had a yellow fever vaccination. Yellow fever vaccination is recommended for such travellers to mitigate any risk of contracting the disease themselves.
YF vax is a decades old long established prophylaxis and, as you say, is to prevent a very serious disease.
And maybe it was developed for yellow fever not euthanasia.
But, Judy, will you wait to see how things pan out? That is, to see if the threat of not being allowed to travel is ever enacted? Could it not be a last minute decision because all hope is lost? I don’t understand why PH should have accepted it so early in the struggle. Do you?
The problem with his vaccination is that if you see the video he openly admits being coerced into taking it. Factors other than the risk benefit of the vaccine itself has made his decision for him.
Those changing of outside parameters are the breach of the Nuremburg code. No one should be forced to take a vaccine because it gives you anything other than medical benefit. As soon as we accepted medical treatment can be forced on people, we are all doomed. This is why his decision to take the vaccine was such a bad one.
It would have been a different matter if he had weighed up the pros and cons of the vaccine itself, but that wasnt true of his case.
EU introducing formal vax passport legislation this month:
Von der Leyen: EU Announces Vaccine Passports, UK May Join (breitbart.com)
They’re already calling it the, “Digital Green Pass,” modeled on the Israeli version, trial run being set up in Greece.
It must be opposed. Make it unworkable. We can all start by failing to log on to the internet on March 21st.
Now there’s an idea protest with silence! On a specific day & time just stop everything, switch off all the lights all gadgets all electricity, that would be a powerful message. Something they couldn’t ignore.
How do we get 7 billion people to do that?
I’m in.
The EU themselves make it unworkable, thanks to the Schengen agreements. Not all travel is by air. Rail and road travel is currently unhindered by any sort of border checks and will continue to be so once the various countries drop their emergency measures.
Good point. Looks like ᛋᛋ will be patrolling train stations asking for your papers.
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I like it.
What’s old is new again.
How innovative.
Swedeborg (did I get this right) outlined yesterday why Vaccine passports will be unworkable and Schengen plays a big factor in the unworkability.
Link to Swedenborg’s post is here
https://dailysceptic.org/2021/03/01/latest-news-300/#comment-440146
Thanks, that’s a really interesting post and gives me hope.
But the elephant in the room is that the UK government could insist that anyone who flies, is vaccinated. They would put the responsibility to enforce that on the airlines.
That maybe true but the airline themselves could be liable if they’re sued for discrimination or someone developing adverse side effects from the vaccine.
In these dark times at least the budget should be a bit of a giggle
From behind the sofa!
Chinas Social Credit system.
This pre Covid YouTube says that China has been trialling 42 different versions of Social Credit since 2019 before deciding which one to roll out nationally in, oddly enough, 2020.
Coming to a town near you.
Should read
‘trialling . . . 42 different versions since 2009’
I was posting very early. 😳
It’s only 10 years out. Still, more accurate than The Slutty Professor
It already is – the technology is being developed by a company here in Manchester called Vcode by VST Enterprises.
Confirmed in the link provided by Cheezila below.
It’s already in ‘a town near you’. Go into Asda and see one’s mask-less mug framed in green on the big screen for all to see, to boo, and to throw things at!
Social shaming is all part of it, from the vid
Here’s a written rundown:
Social Credit System – Wikipedia
Just shoot me.
That would seem to be the youtubers main scourse of information except for the 42 different cities.
Most people are totally ignorant of the true effects of their social credit system. How many realise that there are more children living away from their parents, being cared for by total strangers than the population of the UK. Imagine a system where, you and your wife left home and moved to London for jobs ten years ago. You set up a family business there and have a child, but your social credit score is not high because of your race, religeon and social status. Your child has only enough points to remain in a London school until aged eleven. Once that time comes, the State gives you a choice. You and your wife can remain in London, but your child must leave the city and return to the place where YOU came from. A place your child have probably never seen, a place with no family ties left. Your child will be placed with a stranger, usually a woman beyond child bearing age, who will look after maybe half a dozen children, none related, until their eighteenth birthday. Then the states responsibility ends and they have to fend for themselves, probably never seeing their parents again. The alternative is… Read more »
I had some of the negative impacts of Social Credit explained to me last summer by a UK business chap with a mainland Chinese wife whose family they used to visit frequently.
It jogged my memory about a roundup link which discussed the horror awaiting us. ‘. . . The road to future tyranny’ but I have been unable to track it down since.
It would be useful to hear this karen – as I read the previous example and thought “He was from a different country – I don’t expect they are doing that to Chinese people – so that’s not something I’d worry about personally – bar the Nationalists getting antsy about me being in the Welsh part of the country, when I’m from the English part of the country”.
I spoke with a mature student who had returned, with lockdown difficulties, from Laos after her gap year where she witnessed Chines personnel
“imposing Social Credit, not pretty”
I think you mean this. Toby posted it last June: https://medium.com/@aarondavidsonn/the-health-passport-a-green-light-for-tyranny-545298e108d
Yes that’s the one . Thank you
A friend of mine was actually working on the face recognition software in China for Google.He was disgusted and thought this will never come to pass anywhere in the west.He told me weeks ago that they are back on this project,this time for the UK government..It is happening, we can’t stop it.
Of course we can. Even a catapult can take out a camera.
My understanding is that this is the reasoning behind social distancing. Makes it easier for cameras to identify individual faces.
I heard that some months ago, hence the otherwise inexplicable 2 metre rule.
I think the attacks on Peter Hitchens for his taking of a so called Covid 19 vaccine are misplaced. He is one of the very few people with a platform who spoke out against the coronavirus madness from the outset. How many of the people now insulting him, calling him a traitor, etc, can point to their own publicly made reasoned arguments against the proposed restrictions back in March 2020? Peter Hitchens’ consistent critique of the madness has had a significant and substantial effect. He has persuaded people who supported the fear-mongering and the lockdown measures the government introduced in March 2020 to look beyond the rhetoric and re-consider and to become lockdown sceptics. To see this one only has to view the first interview in the ongoing series he has had with Mike Graham on Talk Radio. Peter Hitchens’ day in and day out criticisms of the coronavirus madness have enabled many others to feel their concerns were valid; his stand has encouraged many others to speak out; to write to the member of parliament; to voice their concerns to friends and family, to neighbours and colleagues, to express their views on the Internet. And this has an effect.… Read more »
No he’s a surrender monkey, stop throwing him bananas.
Taking medical treatment is a personal decision. I’m certain he would not write about his piles & what ointment he uses! There was no reason for him to tell the world he took the covid poison. He as an influential covid critic, surrendered publicly for what? A trip abroad. He didn’t even pretend to fight. He’s as fraudulent as the Covid-19 vaccine.
Given political reality I suspect it will at least prove neutral or be positive. Refusing to take the ‘vaccine’ does not look generally reasonable in the present climate so PH needs to appear reasonable to put forward the antilockdown arguments, which more people may listen to.
That is only if you accept the government and media propaganda. One of Peter Hitchens’ major weaknesses that I’ve noticed is that he never discusses concrete issues such as the fraudulent use of PCR, manipulation and distortion of statistics, not to mention the disingenuous vaccine narrative. He seems to solely focus on philosophical issues such as the charge against the loss of freedom on an unprecedented scale.
If he had backed up his protestations with the indisputable factual scientific and statistical evidence against the narrative, his opposition would have carried much more weight. This has always been sadly lacking, not helped by his day long supercilious and pedantic ‘tweeting’ when he would have been better served doing some hard research. It makes me wonder if his intellectual capabilities lack the depth to assess more complex empirical information as demonstrated by his capitulation to the vaccine narrative.
I do feel he has let down many people on this issue but, having said that, I do admire and will continue to support his campaign to call out the OPCW for its disingenuous reporting on ‘chemical attacks’ in Syria.
Sure,
However you need to deal with people as they are, not where you you would like them to be. Otherwise there is no engagement and no possible progress.
The Covid event has always been about the “vaccines”, that aren’t vaccines. Everything about Covid is purposely designed to frighten or coerce an ignorant public into partaking of these undoubtedly risky and for too many, lethal medications. Hitchens has now joined the government freak show, making an ass of himself and a fool of those who ever took him seriously. He was always an establishment stooge, though whether he knew it, is another matter.
That’s the point: not that he chose to trot along to the surgery and obediently roll up his sleeve but that he then elected to broadcast what he’d done and why he’d done it. The simple fact that he must have known how much it would have delighted our opponents to win him over was surely reason enough for him to at least have kept quiet about being jabbed? He must also have been aware how much his capitulation would hurt the dissenters for whom he has been a high profile champion. He did it anyway and that’s why I think critcism of him is justified. He even told us we’d lost. I find that particularly hurtful.
I do value all that he has said and done to oppose lockdown: his position at the DM was very influential and I suspect he’s been responsible for winning many converts over the past months but, as far as I’m concerned, that doesn’t excuse him this act of betrayal.
When the crunch came, he lost his nerve. I’m disappointed.
The crunch was in March 2020.
No the “crunch” is their motive not their conduct. We want to stop the planned outcome of digital biometric ID, DNA, retina scans, fingerprints, facial recognition all used to control & surveil!
How can an event be a motive? The misuse of language is something the carriers of the coronavirus narrative specialise in. It is something that lockdown sceptics ought to criticise rather than imitate.
LOL stop it you make yourself sound naive, you know what I mean’t the motive (for lockdown) & outcome are simple, ‘control’.
The pandemic & by definition lockdown was the trojan horse to implement greater control, it’s a power grab!
The crunch was getting himself jabbed. Like many others who’ve taken the needle, he now has a time bomb ticking away inside and there’s nothing he can do about.
The crunch isn’t here until the vaxpass is mandatory.
The “vaxpass” is another way of coercing people to take their worse than dubious vaccines. It’s a bit about control and an awful lot about depopulation.
I think that is why his decision is so disappointing.I remember in the first week of lockdown feeling something was wrong.Watching the news and realising it was no longer news but propaganda and when I read Hitchens I understood I was not alone.
He hasn’t just took the vaccine for travel,although travel is illegal at the moment,he excused his decision by claiming we have lost and we better get used to it.He then used spurious opinion polls to justify his decision,after years of explaining how they are manipulated to influence public opinion.
In one column he has destroyed his credibility.
Reference to family and travel confirms my suspicion that it was ‘her indoors’ wot done it.
yeh, I like Peter Hitchens, I’m only sorry he took the vaccine because it means he’ll be dead soon
Don’t take this the wrong way, but I love your bluntness 🙂
Yes, it’s a very strong point.
Yes that is very likely and he doesn’t look that robust in any event. He caved when they put the pressure on and he is now a dead man walking, at least for a while.
‘Things have changed now because, as always when a battle is lost, you can speak freely about it.’
Roger Scruton, Spectator interview, 4.4.2015
‘it’ not CCP-19 obviously but another dangerous topic.
I totally thank Hitch, he was right all through the crucial period last year, when the government could have at least limited the damage. In the circles he moves I am sure he is very unpopular with his views on the CCP Virus, he is though much more in tune with the working man in the practical and productive side of the economy than he knows.
He has seemed a beaten man though this year, almost as if those scary death numbers in Jan have made him think again, even the rhetoric has been toned down. Muzzles are now masks and the scorn for government ministers is much more mild than last year.
Do you mean the deaths in care homes after the vaxx has been administered? You know, the countless incidents this government fails point blank to address? The scary Jan flu-death numbers happen every year, but no-one is interested. The death rate coming dramatically down in Feb also happens every year, and would have happened irrespective of the vaxx roll out.
Those “scary deaths numbers in Jan,” are mathematically proven to have been caused by the “vaccines,” that aren’t vaccines. Numbers wizard, Joel Smalley tells it as it is, in the video linked below. It’s a bit hard going in places, but well worth the effort. Joel’s too wary to say it, but for me, the inference is that the vaccines are genocidal.
I didn’t need Joel to tell me that the vaccines were something to avoid, as there was already a mountain of evidence, far more than enough to set the alarms ringing. Others heard the alarm bells, but not Peter Hitchens and he has caved to establishment pressure.
As for being unpopular, I would suggest that most sceptics will have had that experience though personally, I take it as a badge of honour.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWTaEtkZiA4
Agree, some of the comments directed at PH are downright nasty, usually with a smattering of swear words to justify their point. Rarely do you see a reasoned argument. Look at Piers Morgan, who loves the sound of his own voice so much, he doesn’t let interviewees finish their sentence. I doubt he has even looked at the ONS figures or any other argument. I stopped watching and listening to MSM about 9 months ago.
Piers Morgan asserted that he knows that the vaccine (he was not specific about which product he was referring to) is safe and effective because he researched it. (He did not say what that research consisted of.)
It is not possible to say what he said, without being a blithering idiot or a liar. I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt and say that he’s not an idiot.
Totally disagree
Hitchens decided too have the jab and that is his right. However he then bleated publicly that he was coerced to take the jab due to the ‘inevitability’ of the vaccine passport. By doing this he is now the spokesman for the government, big pharma and big business to push for the introduction of these passports. Pathetic!
These vaccine passports will only happen if the majority in the UK support it. At this stage they do not
And by openly supporting vaxx-passports he condones governance by (previously illegal) coercion and acceptance of the inevitability of a 2-tier society. It’s a grave step into irreversible totalitarianism that even TY (ATL) seems to be glossing over (again, unfortunately).
“ opponents of medical treatments”
Opponents of politically coerced, invasive, irreversible, novel, experimental, untested, medical treatments.
exactly , just like like GMOS – a sure warning sign to me ,they have also damaged peoples health especially in america the home of monsanto . just one of the many reasons no way will i ever get this or any of their vaccines
You forgot unlicensed and the makers are indemnified against any damages.
The vaccine makers are happy that their products are being used without a license, as in these circumstances they don’t even need the indemnity that they have been given.
The decision to use these unlicensed products is entirely down to government and it is the party that needs to be called to account for the harm now being caused. This harm appears to be the result of a criminal act.
‘Democide’ – the intentional killing by the state, of its own citizens.
And his pitiful surrender (because he might lose the freedom to travel, he felt coerced..) will likewise encourage other lockdown wobblers to do the same. He’s a paid influencer, and he has switched sides. There’s no excuses, he’s a busted flush, effectively a government shill, and his false opposition to lockdown is exposed as nothing of value.
“he has felt alone in his struggle against this madness” Of his own making. He wasn’t by any means the first to identify the disproportionately of lockdowns, much as he would have us believe. He seems to have an innate desire to play the martyr and be seen as the sole ‘wise one’. And if this involves arrogantly and scornfully dismissing individuals who have done far more than he has to campaign against the fascism, such as David Icke and Piers Corbyn, then that’s what he resorts to. He himself has said that he doesn’t ‘do’ group campaigns and protests, as if this were to be regarded as a badge of honour and symbolic of his ‘superior’ intellect. It seems that this desire to be a loner has now been his downfall and reflects his disdain for the rest of us mortal beings who have more integrity and conviction than he obviously has, and I am writing as someone who until this week was happy to overlook his foibles because he appeared to have the same ultimate goals. Any belief I had in him has been completely shattered. He would clearly rather ‘self-mutilate’ by conceding to vaccination than join forces… Read more »
I felt dismay at first but I’m starting to smoulder now. He’s betrayed his followers and given HMGs plans a boost.
He should have waited until he clearly had no choice. Now is not that time.
You seem to be living under the illusion that all ‘medical treatments’ are by definition safe and to be encouraged. An extremely dangerous path to tread.
He had a platform, unlike most of us. He’s abused it.
If the vaxpass were already a requirement, it would be a different matter.
This is pathetic capitulation. He’s a traitor to his readers and to his country.
What else do you know?
I am confused about Peter Hitchen’s take on the vaccine. To agree to take it because you think it may protect you or a loved one is understandable. Why take it whilst complaining about what a terrible defeat and surrender it is?
As it stands you don’t have to take this vaccine. Why help this dreadful government by falling at its feat in despair and surrender?
I like Hitchens and have read some of his books. He is belligerent and arrogant and is often depressing – but he is a good writer and an original thinker.
Thought it worth re-posting this from yesterday evening:
Having been subjected to a year of cherry picked and manipulated data intended to justify the government narrative, my first instinct now is to mistrust anything new that is presented.
The claim was made in this evening’s briefing that PHE have statistics proving the effectiveness of the vaccines. No doubt there is data that can be used to justify this claim and there may even be some truth in the claim.
Two things I want to see forensically examined before I would be convinced:
Full disclosure of how PHE collected and analysed the data. In particular, how they gathered and assessed the results for the vaccinated population compared to the unvaccinated.
A comparison of England’s data with other parts of the world with different levels of vaccination penetration.
Only took you a year?
I didn’t say when ‘now’ started!
I would add: the efficacy ought to be presented in terms of absolute risk reduction (rather than relative risk) or, better still, in terms of the actual numbers.
I have long ago stopped listening to ANYTHING they say! – this is the just fate of the liar, never to be believed again, on anything. I’m long done with trying to pick out threads of truth from the tangle of lies. Far simpler to put ALL of it in my mental trash bin, or to filter it out as ‘spam’ – it’s all corrupted and untrustworthy. I now as a matter of principle refute everything they say- up to and including the existence of such a pathogen as SARS Cov 2, or such a disease as covid-19. I agree with that Italian doctor who said that ‘covid’ is their code for ‘certificate of vaccination and identity’
Some of the replies to this post both last night and today are justly angry. I do not deny the cause for this, however….
This was broadcast on national TV last night as evidence in support of the vaccination programme by ‘proving’ how effective it has been to date.
This is a key aspect of this whole no-debate.
If what was said can be justified, then that is a significant piece of news on efficacy and something that needs to be taken on board in relation to how to deal with the concerns on safety and coercion etc. NB I am not saying that it changes my views on the latter.
If it cannot be justified then that can be much more significant as a tool to be used to challenge the mainstream messaging.
From all that I have seen the claim on vaccine efficacy is entirely based on declining case numbers and deaths. And we are supposed to go along with that, as with everything else, without question or evidence.
Professor Dolores Cahill (Entire Episode) (1:28:27)
Covering pros & cons of vaccines & treatments for
Covid-19influenza.Is Jonathon Barr using an alias ‘ Conor Chaplin ‘ ? Greeted by Handjob (again) when the page loads is FUBAR!
Don’t care who put Wankok on the front cover, just GET HIM OFF.
When the first thing my bleary eyes behold in the morning is that devil from Hell, it’s not a good start.
Give me the Mekon, the Pukon, the Ravenous Bug-Blatter Beast of Traal (I know where my towel is), the Chief Dalek, the Head Cyberperson, the Beast from Outer Space, an invading Martian, the Monster from Quatermas’s Pit, the Great God Tash, the Eye of Sauron, anything … but not Wankok, that thing of uttermost slime.
I agree, I usually read LS while having my breakfast and the last thing I want to see over my cornflakes is Wancock’s hideous visage. If they must put pics up of our enemy at least photoshop something over their faces. I suggest something like this:
What ever that is, it’s too handsome for Handjob.
Having clearly read the memo yesterday Jeremy Vine was in full on Brazil Mutant panic mode.
I’m not sure who the lady Expert was but each time JV asked
‘Is it more deadly!/infectious!/vaccine resistant ! ?’
she very carefully said ‘could be’, ‘might do’, ‘we just don’t know’.
I expect Jeremy was quite disappointed.
Full on also radio4, they were just loving it, the sheer propaganda, the kow towing, the promotion.
I too believe it was due to the millions of people out enjoying the springtime weekend…they weren’t terrified enough.
Yep, her deliberately ‘careful’ and non-committal responses were so obvious. As well as the phrases you noted, I noted down “may be the case”, “may be true” “it’s likely”… She was Professor Eleanor Riley, Prof of Immunology at Edinburgh University.
Thank you, sound lady. Ferguson take note.
He was most probably getting rather “excited” under his desk.
He’s now a sceptic in disgrace, he should hang his head in shame & be sent into Coventry, give this collaborator no further platform to demoralize those with the courage to fight.
Message to Toby Young STOP believing vaccines are the route out of Draconian government mitigation of fraudulent pandemics, IT IS NOT!
Got you back in credit A_S. Who would have thought?
Great post!
Hitchens decided too have the jab and that is his right. However he then bleated publicly that he was coerced to take the jab due to the ‘inevitability’ of the vaccine passport. By doing this he is now the spokesman for the government, big pharma and big business to push for the introduction of these passports. Pathetic!
These vaccine passports will only happen if the majority in the UK support it. At this stage they do not
Alternative 1. Do NOT trust a word technocrats & intellectuals ever say.
No evidence it’s due to vaccines, just the opposite according to Joel Smalley
Explanations of grey, red & pink might help
I just copied & pasted.
Have you got a link,comrade?
I saw it on UK Column News – 1st March 2021
It was on UK Column of Monday and relates to data for care homes in Scotland. UK Column did not follow their usual practice of providing a link. Maybe we will get more info from them tomorrow?
Takes them a while to add the links. Here it is: https://twitter.com/RealJoelSmalley/status/1365291159199899651
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A well aimed half brick could ground that
Not sure Anti_socialist approves of direct action. I, on the other hand, am all for it. Time to start putting glue in keyholes, and sugar in petrol tanks. Civil disobedience, and disruption might be the only way out of this. If not, it’s good training for the coming Resistance.
It’s not about approval, its just that violence is a gift to the authorities, it gives them carte blanche for greater brutality, there is no worse violence than state violence, they’ve given themselves the right to murder!
Any struggle must avoid violence against the state because it’s doomed to fail. Physical confrontation is futile.
totally agree. I would have no moral scruples whatever about shooting Hancock et al in the face, I could do it in a heartbeat, and wouldn’t feel I had done anything wrong. but if you take a few seconds to consider the likely effects of that, it’s obvious it would be a massive own goal. some other monsters would immediately rise up to take their place, and these ones would be more savage, more brutal. There’s no point in resorting to violence when the other side has the armies, the tanks and the guns. don’t pick a battlefield where you have no chance of winning.
The other side during WW2 had “the armies, the tanks and the guns,” but various underground resistance groups, like the SOE, were very effective at disruption and sabotage. They were a major irritation and, being mostly invisible, they could seriously unnerve the enemy. I’m not necessarily advocating this but there is more to combat than face to face battlefield fighting.
Self-defence is NOT violence. And there may well come a day where we may not have a choice. Or, do you think you’re courageous enough to keep “turning the other cheek”, while those around you and you’re nearest and dearest are dragged out one by one? How many will have to die needlessly, because we keep equating violent action with that which keeps us FREE?! If we hadn’t given up our guns, no way would police be now wandering around as paramilitary thugs, enforcing government diktats, and that’s just one of many ways we’ve been disarmed as a nation, education, medical, and corporate tyranny is on our doorsteps. Have fun in the wild, because sooner or later it’ll be coming for you there as well. And, perhaps only then, will you realise.
I’m not turning cheeks, i’m a pragmatist, fight smart don’t play their game because they make all the rules.
You neatly side-stepped. Is self-defence violence? Isn’t self-defence pragmatic? Does it not become pragmatic to become offensive in your own defence, when the chips are down ( and they are). BTW, I’ve never played by others rules, only my own.
Self-defence is the excuse the government use for brutality. But you don’t need my approval for your conduct. You do what you think is right. I’m not going to get involved in fights I can’t win.
My problem is, I always have. No-one ever fought for my rights, I had to fight for my own, though at times it cost me dear. And in doing so, I learnt the courage to fight for others, also. I’ve challenged groups of men harrasing the homeless, and hitting their wives/girlfriends. I sigle-handedly destroyed the patriarchal authoritarian control that ruled my family. I’ve resisted unlawful arrest and challenged unlawful behaviour by authority. I’m always prepared to lose. You can only be prepared to fight the big battles, if you’re willing to take on the small. The war is long, and the battles lost are numerous. You have already, unknowingly perhaps, lost many. Hate to break it to you, but victory isn’t guaranteed
Slightly condescending for someone who knows nothing about me, with age comes wisdom, getting physical isn’t always the wisest course of action.
Passive aggressiveness is more effective and doesn’t attract martial law!
I’m good at that.
Not sure whether I’d quite have the nerve to do that personally – but the way they keep upsetting me who knows in the future? But I can promise to do my Three Wise Monkeys act (hear no evil/see no evil/speak no evil).
Gott strafe England!
A just emblem for the whole corona response – wholly disproportionate.
On quantifying losses from the Corona-Panic. On how much CoronaPanic/Lockdown losses outweigh CoronaVirus losses in “life-years lost” terms:
“All Life-Years Matter” — On the Corona-Panic’s social and economic costs vs. Covid-deaths, an Appeal to the Pro-Panic side
https://hailtoyou.wordpress.com/2021/02/26/all-life-years-matter-on-the-corona-panics-social-and-economic-costs-vs-covid-deaths-in-life-years-lost-terms/
We really must focus on lockdown/narrative scepticism and get away from climate change, woke & left/right stuff. We come to support each other, to attack the murderous narrative and spread good news. The best thing we do, however, is promote effective action like A_Ss suggestion to cutoff completely for one day, 21st March.
There are 2 big things we can do this week: write to schools about masks – I’ll have an edited version of the big legal letter ready for you by Thursday. The second is ‘Resistance Day ‘this Saturday -just get friends to turn up unmasked at your local supermarket at 9 am and film any harassment. Remember, the law is simple – they are not allowed to ask you about masks and if they do it twice, they commit a criminal offence. 1997 Harassment Act.
The polls in communist East Germany always said that the leaders were extremely popular and much loved by the people
No doubt the polls in Romania said the same.
Danton, who so successfully advocated being ‘atrocious’, believed himself to be the untouchable idol of the people, until the people’s guillotine cut off his popular head.
Beware the savagery of the sheeple. They’ll bleat you to death in the end.
Woke up with the chilling realisation that masks are paving the way for digital IDs. Why are our “leaders” (abusers) so manic about us wearing masks. We know they don’t do anything to stop a virus spreading and THEY know that, too. It must be to condition us into having no facial features offering our identification, only a digital ID. And all these tests? Paving the way for regular testing to check if you’re “healthy”… all linked to your digital ID. Doctors and nurses coming to your HOUSE to administer injections when there is zero chance of a GP in-person appointment? Desperation to get these drugs into people. Nothing to do with inoculating them, just normalising this process. This is so sinister. The UN Agenda 2030 states, as one of its goals, the eradication of HIV, TB, malaria and all communicable diseases. Who allowed that to be written? That is mad. Disease is part of being human. That’s an insane, arrogant “playing God” attitude. Is that what this is all about? Injecting everyone, testing them, and then claiming to have rid the world of all diseases? This is insanity! But if they have signed up to it, it would explain… Read more »
I said “stop talking about woke” and the first word you use is ‘woke’. I then realised you mean you are no longer asleep so I’m giving you a tick. Wish others would wake up also!!!
Woke up in both senses! Also realised it is the “climate emergency” pushing all this madness… this is how they are justifying it to themselves. Must remove all human rights while we “save the planet” because they’ve been spooked and brainwashed into believing the planet will be destroyed in 20 years. No… the planet will look after itself. The human race will be destroyed. And not because Grandma put the wrong plastic in the recycling bin, but because they are messing with humanity. We have to survive this. The lunatics are truly in charge of the asylum!
Who are you to dictate what others talk about? Like I give a toss you agree with me or not wolfy.
ooooh!
I’m fed-up of you telling me you approve or disapprove of my politics, i’m not in the mood.
Part of your comment :
Doctors and nurses coming to your HOUSE to administer injections
To my amazement and disgust , and not a little apprehension, I witnessed this on BBC NW last night . Teams of vaccinators going down streets in Oldham, where the Asian population have been reluctant to submit to vaccination , knocking on every door to calll the inhabitants out for vaccination. They filmed an elderly asian man , clearly bemused and apparently frightened, being cross examined about vaccination until he admitted to the process.
It was one of the most appalling scenes in the current monstrous affair , and the BBC reporters were jubilant and gloating over the intimidation .
I really hate my country now.
Mygawd – even bullying very publicly on camera. I’m glad I don’t watch the mainstream news. That episode would have sickened me – and my tv might not still be in one piece after me throwing something at it. Me being me – it’s a pity I wasn’t in that street at that time – or you’d all know my face by now – as I’d have belted over and done my best to stand up for that poor man directly.
Hmmm….which brings me neatly to a thought I’ve just had – having bought a whistle that I’ve got neatly sitting by my phone in case of persistent unwanted callers (eg the NHS hassling me to have the vax) – then the thought is now there in my mind “That’s not the only use that whistle might have” and perhaps we should all carry whistles round on us in case we need to call out bad behaviour – loudly.
That’s horrific. I suggest to everyone don’t ever answer your door to anyone who isn’t expected/doesn’t have an appointment.
The government are clearly doing a wonderful job with the vaccines and that must be the explanation for the low death rate in the UK – it’s clearly nothing to do with spring coming or group immunity !
Just one little problem – the death rate is about the same in our close neighbours (see below). But the great thing is the government will never let their explanation be distorted by a few inconvenient facts !
L, the darkest 13 weeks of the year finished on Feb 5th and the lightest 13 will start on May 5/6, give or take. Is this important to sceptics? I think so because government will tell you that Spring starts on March 21st and give your kids a Summer holiday at the beginning of Autumn so they can help with the harvest. Follow the creatures, your observations and the data, not the lying manipulative government. Daffs are out and some black-headed gulls actually have black heads, breeding plumage. Get your kids out, enjoying the Spring and ignoring government and police totalitarianism! Teach them basic research by using their eyes and brains!
Why do we have a bigger winter hump than our neighbours though? What have we done differently? 🤔
Now what COULD it be?
https://twitter.com/RealJoelSmalley/status/1365291159199899651 “18th Dec – ENG 80+ in the community 27th Dec – SCO care homes 8th Jan – ENG care homes 10th Jan – SCO 80+ in the community Vaccination data is just coincidental*. *Correlation does not equal causation.”
‘Page doesn’t exist’.
Here it is:
https://twitter.com/RealJoelSmalley/status/1365291159199899651
As often, Swedeneborg (otherwise immaculate) has an extra letter or two after the website address so it doesn’t load.
I would suggest the most obvious inconvenient fact is the huge peak on that UK curve compared with the others.
Look at this to see that Toronto wants to do to children
who have been sent home from school because some kid has tested positive.Not children who have tested positive themselves.Not, needless to say, children who are ill. But children as young as four.
That is HORRIFIC CHILD ABUSE! “Stay in a separate room” !!!! Wtf?! This must be challenged. Vile!
Just how are they going to enforce that ?
Or, let’s be honest, any of this – they’ve scared people into compliance and are hoping they’ll police themselves.
Let’s make sure anyone doing or even advocating it here is severely challenged.
Sounds like they would be severely challenged already. Mentally and emotionally, that is.
Ignoring them would probably be best. Challenging anyone so severely deficient, is akin to having a pigeon as your oppenent in a game of chess.
And use a separate bathroom. Where do these privileged dictators live? They have no idea!
Note asymptomatic kids are isolated while their parents keep going to work.
The children are ALWAYS the real target!
‘Dismissed from school’.
Charming use of words.
No way I would do that to my kids. I am a mother, not a jailer.
It’s utter bullshit. The middle and right columns are self-contradictory. Why would a sibling have to stay home but an adult can go to work? My own son had his class sent home in October due to some infinitesimally small possibility that he had been in contact with another child who had tested positive. Needless to say he was never symptomatic and we never followed the advice in the first column.
And I agree it is child abuse. What child is going to stay 2 m or more from their parents for 10 days? I would also add that separate rooms assumes a lot on the part of the people who make up this shit.
Forced imprisonment for children as young as 4! But the most horrific thing about it is that some people will actually follow these rules.
Our real fight is not against lockdowns, or masks, or vaccines… it’s against digital IDs. We must turn our attention to this and stop this NOW!
Whilst not 100% in agreement, yes you’re right, it’s why the likes of Hitchens are such a disappointment I hope & pray TY isn’t going the same way. But don’t become complacent about lockdowns don’t allow them to make it an either or debate blackmailed into accepting one with the threat of the other, like Hitchens caved into.
Not complacent at ALL! Completely oppose all of it. Just pointing out that they are all mean to an end… which is digital IDs. I’m in complete panic. I see it all now. All their “track and trace” and “online menus” in restaurants. Just REFUSE to totally digitise you’re life. “I’m on a digital detox”. Leave home without your smart phone. Resist the digitisation of our lives.
I’m prepared for the long fight against the inevitable social credit system. I am prepared to take it to the extreme & homelessness living free in the wild.
I”m not joking, my sense of freedom & autonomy is far more important than modern comfort & social conformity!
I’m deadly serious, NO surrender EVER!
Do you know about the Scottish bothy system?
I’m already halfway there I live in the highlands 😉
can i come and live in the wild with you? we can set up a little commune
Do you know Jane?
i’ll come – i have a campervan and i’m wondering where i can go to escape the nightmare!
Well let me know where we are going. I know many who are joining us. Who feel EXACTLY the same way. What a party!
21st March, when we are not using digital stuff. Glen Feshie (hint, hint, hint) or whatever is convenient for you.
The conditioning has been taking place.NHS app was the precursor for the vaccine passport.The temperature scanners are to condition us for the inevitable chip that we be forced to receive.
We have until the end of summer to stop this before there is a critical mass of vaccinated people who will clamour to be protected from the unvaccinated.The big battle will be for the children.
Yes. The lawyers need to step up and speak out. Human rights groups. ANY MPs with a conscience.
Totally agree with your earlier sentiments. But think the emphasis should be on tackling the steps in this process one at a time ,yielding inch by inch . The big prize now for both sides is the vax. If enough people take it we are stuffed. The main battle is to prevent this happening and we need to endeavour to persuade as many as possible to avoid the vax . For people on here or Middle England who think it will let them travel , forget it . It’s not going to happen like that, and why would you have it before the vax passes were up and running, you may be having it for no good reason , why jump the gun . If the many take it then the id agenda will steamroller through . This is why just concentrating on Lockdown is wilfully miss guided , and one has to be suspicious of the likes of Hitchens and the operators of this site for peddling the idea that if we want our freedom back we just need to take a little dose, so easy , what’s the fuss. The vaccine implementation is the key move for the… Read more »
Many who will have the experimental jab, and/or their families will also come on board, once the damage done by it, will become too obvious to ignore.
Correct, the narrative is the enemy.
The narrative is the enemy! VERY GOOD. Stealing and spreading that!!
Spot on.
Excellent post. I do think the main thing we can do to fight against everything that is happening at the moment is NOT to take the ‘vax.’ While I am not going to condemn those who have already done so, I do feel disappointed that some have given in too soon. Vax passports are a self-fulfilling prophecy. If the majority take the vax then they are much more likely to happen. If a substantial number hold out we will make it much harder for them to go through.
Take heart from the large numbers of normal people who ignored the spirit of lockdown by gathering in large numbers in public open spaces last weekend.
Police reaction seems to have been mixed. I reported locally of gatherings on sunny Friday, Local Live (mirror group news) reported only on Sunday that ‘Police cleared the area at 5pm’.
Or perhaps the crowds just went home for tea since it was getting chilly.
Hunting in packs, once the herd this out.
“Or perhaps the crowds just went home for tea since it was getting chilly.”
yes! again doing something that was happening anyway and trying to take credit – like flattening the curve
I think that scene in the park is a million miles away from what is being discussed. People will have told themselves a nice little story that such an act was okay.
They’ll continue to tell themselves whatever story will allow themselves a quiet life
The article by Alastair Cavendish sums things up well.
What is happening is simply evil.
The challenge is that, as we see in history, evil is often deeply popular at the time.
It is not seen for what it is. People instead see themselves as being “protected”.
Hitler did not create antisemitism in 1930s Germany, he reflected sentiment that was already endemic among many Germans both historically and among the many millions who had been exposed to the Jews of Poland and Russia living in sub human conditions and thus appearing to be untermensch.
One reason why his evil was so readily accepted.
Correct, that’s why the media had little trouble getting their lies about JC accepted so easily by the British public who are basically conservative which means they cannot see that their group actions can change things for the better. This also explains why we would be no better off with a Labour government as they appear to be kowtowing to the brain dead even more than the Tories.
Believe it or not, but I regularly listen to George Galloway (keep your enemy close) he was satirically calling labour right wing & conservatives left wing Sunday, first time i’ve agreed with him since brexit.
He often makes sense, it’s a shame it’s tainted with socialism, LOL but he was a horrible lockdown zealot, at first, but i’ve noted a little covid scepticism in his eyes of late.
Former Israeli Minister Shulamit Aloni “Anti-semitic”, “its a trick we always use it”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0kWAqZxJVE
The herd is definitely getting restless. More and more BTL comments on media articles show many are now questioning the narrative and the end-game. Not enough yet, but there are positive signs. Next few weeks remain critical as BoJo and Wancock try to drag the charade out long enough to get the jab into more and more unsuspecting sheep before they realise they’ve been had. Maximum prssure now guys. Use every available social media tool you have to keep the message going that we’re all being lied to.
I don’t know when they think their jabathon will be done. I’m 50 and haven’t been asked yet. Do they want to keep us locked down until they’ve done the newborns? At what point will they say we’ve done enough – may as well open up, we have nothing left in the toolbox?
Then they have to start again for jabs for new variants – it’s like painting the Forth bridge.. but remember they haven’t quite trashed our economy yet so no end in sight (aka ever)..
Everyone in my close family have been offered one, apart from my son and I. Even my OH and daughter. Only my mum and dad are 50+. If it weren’t for the fact my OH is white, I’d have assumed it was because the BAME community was being targeted. So maybe, the take-up is so terrible around here, invites are being sent out willy-nilly.
That’s terrible. I don’t mind rushing out a vaccine if they cost/benefit and do the vulnerable – where appropriate – and by fully informed consent (hard to do with a mainly untested vaccine). But rushing out a vaccine and giving it to everyone is asking for trouble – ‘Children of Men’ territory.
Stop expecting healing from any of these organisations, which are deliberately destroying natural health, so that forever else, humanity will suckle on the teat, of whatever poison it has been decreed, will be your current saviour, alongside your daily allowance of synthetic food.
I keep chickens – I’ll be fine 🙂
And then they came for the chickens……
to be honest they already came for the chickens. My chickens have been self-isolating since before xmas due to the new avian flu. They aren’t allowed to wander about the garden and have to have bird netting covering their home and run. It’s quite annoying. Not my decision and I don’t know what the fines are
I know that probably wasn’t supposed to be funny, but LOL!
On a more serious note, self-sufficiency is being seriously targeted, for nation States as well the individual, with the intention of destroying all independence. The original Omen trilogy is awash with predictive programming on how it’s planned to achieve this, especially the final film.
Unfortunately, even if this shitshow finishes tomorrow, this blueprint will be used again and again. Just witness past attempts to generate the same hysterical fear previously with other overblown “viruses”. the grip of big pharma/croney corporatism and corrupt governments must be broken, if we are to have any hope of autonomy.
It is only finished once their grip has been broken, once those responsible have been prosecuted for their crimes against humanity and it has been made as clear as can be that government cannot infringe upon the liberty of the people whatever the crisis.
Interesting – are they just selling at cost?
The undeestanding is that they are selling, “not for profit”. Of course, that may still mean that they are including r&d costs in the price tag.
I suppose they are expecting to make money from the 6-monthly updates everyone will have to have forever
I think I heard on R4 yesterday that they are paid ‘at vost’ until the Pandemic is declared over.
Not ‘bad’ at all GS, I only heard it in the background while driving. Did not pick up if they said about AZ deciding when the Pandemic was over so they could bump up the price.
Sadly I do not see this. I think mask compliance is a good indicator of where we are heading. Its all very well that someone expresses doubt and anger on a daily mail comment section but if that does not translate into even the first step towards fighting for their own liberty – which is to ditch the mask then it is inconsequential.
What I see is total mask compliance. Not just total mask compliance the willingness to go above and beyond in service to these tyrants is also evident as outside masking has been steadily growing and from what I have seen is about 50%-75% now.
The people appear to love obeying these tyrants. The only positive I can see in this is that the vast majority absolutely deserve everything they have brought upon themselves.
Where do you live?
In my village on the Northants/Rutland border it is only the inmates of the home for people with Prader-Willi syndrome and their carers who wear masks outside, and I doubt the poor sods have any choice.
Kent.
Where I live neighbours wear a mask to visit their front garden, most the people that walk past are wearing a mask and even cyclists have them. It is painful to see.
Perfectly sane where I live. Masks in shops only – and not 100%.
In my village we get hoards of people at weekends, a lot with masks walking in the countryside and clogging up the tiny roads. Leicestershire/Market Harborough.
My observations on mask wearing in and around Derby are in round figures about 95% in shops, 40% outside in shopping streets, 20% outside away from shops. Working backwards, that suggests 20% are scaredy-cats or virtue-signallers, a further 20% aren’t much bothered either way, and 55% wear them in shops because they think it’s the law.
The problem with too many lockdown sceptics is that misanthropy is just below the surface. An MSM attack on “anti-Vaxxers” gave a little glossary of typical words used, and one of them was “sheeple”. Most people do somewhat believe what they are told, but that is the nature of propaganda and the MSM control of most media. Collapsing into “most people but me are fools, so screw them” is not a good response. Nor are wacky theories like the complete non-existence of viruses, because supposedly Louis Pasteur lied about it.
Exactly!! And understand the psy op that is coming our way, too. Videos of police arresting people for buying coffee “too far from their home” is BULLSHIT! Designed to frighten.
Common purpose. School for petty Hitlers, and more?
Understanding Common Purpose | Common Purpose Exposed (cpexposed.com)
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Sorry
Is this a different Julian from the usual one? The style of writing seems different.
Disappointed in Mr H. Not for taking the jab – that’s his choice. But his defeatist, yellow-bellied justification was unnecessary.
Anyway, Julia Hartley-Brewer has been quietly leading the charge for some weeks now.
I am more disappointed he gives credence to the government funded fake polls as any sort of guide to real public opinion.
After years of explaining that they are a means to influence public opinion not measure it.
Polls are just means to manufacture consent for what ever comes next in their agenda, it’s just a manipulative tool.
She’ll be the next collaborator, then wonder why politicians haven’t given back any freedoms we allowed them to take. To sell your children’s health & future for a trip abroad is embarrassing.
It is exactly at times like this human rights laws need robust & uncompromising defence. Hitchens for all his anti-communist, rhetoric caved in at the first test! And no one claim he stood up when it mattered in March 2020, because that’s not when it really mattered. It’s now our human rights & international law is being abused, shame on him & all those that follow him.
She’s strongly against mandatory anything, including passports, even though she’s completely jab-happy about this experimental biological agent that only has authorisation for emergency use. Be interesting to see what happens going forward.
That’s her choice, too.
Yes it is, but she never mentions the fact that it is ONLY authorised for emergency use. Or the liability exemption enjoyed by big pharma. Or the fact that the INITIAL trials won’t be completed till 2023, and everyone subjecting themselves to it are guinea pigs.Or the fact you have to be at least 60% damaged by the jab, and report the damage within 60 days of receiving the experimental jab to claim any compensation, paid for by the taxpayer, as well funding all care going forward. That’s also her (disingenuous) choice. I’m just glad that she’s at least against any mandatory authorisation.
Agree. Yes it is Hitchen’s right to take the vaccine, but to then publicly declare that he was coerced into getting it because of the ‘inevitability’ of the vaccine passport, is pathetic.
By doing this he is a spokesman for the government, pharma and big business agenda
Exactly – and therefore a traitor to the cause, having delivered a great victory to the enemies of our freedom.
Has she? She was spreading a lot of pro-vax lies a while back (it’s safe, it’s been properly tested, it is the route out of lockdown)? Has she had a change of heart.