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by Will Jones
4 March 2021 3:09 AM

How the Left Flunked the Lockdown Challenge

Lockdown Sceptics contributor and (as he puts it) working class revolutionary socialist Phil Shannon has a terrific piece in Left Lockdown Sceptics looking at how and why the Left failed so badly when Covid hit. Phil wrote for Lockdown Sceptics back in June on a similar theme and it’s great to have an update.

As a four-decade, veteran revolutionary working class socialist, it has dismayed me to see how the contemporary Left, whether in Government, in ‘Opposition’, in the trade unions, on the activist fringes or simply as liberal Guardian-reading, BBC-listening individuals, has almost uniformly become a noisy outpost of knee-trembling Covid Hysterics who have embraced, with disturbing relish, the mania for lockdown. The Left has become an auxiliary arm of the capitalist state and its distinguishing feature has been to spruik [publicly promote – Ed] for tougher, earlier and longer lockdowns. Through its love of a lockdown which devastates the working class, lays waste to civil liberties and disrespects science, the contemporary ‘Left’ well deserves to have quotation masks attached to it.

How the ‘Left’ has Flunked the Virus/Lockdown Challenge

Threat Inflation of the virus

The Left got off on the wrong foot by misrepresenting Covid as much more scary than what it actually is i.e. a bad-to-ordinary flu season. The Left has joined the lockdown establishment elite in inflating the risk posed by the SARS-CoV-2 virus by (1) lumping together deaths ‘with’ and deaths ‘from’ Covid; (2) conflating positive virus test results – including false positives – with actual clinical cases; (3) ignoring Covid’s fatal attraction almost solely for the already-ill elderly whilst being fairly innocuous to everyone else; (4) portraying the virus as a constant menace despite its cyclic behaviour as just another recurring, seasonal, warmth-shunning, mutating respiratory virus which naturally peters out during its summer recess; (5) deep-sixing the fear-quelling concept of naturally-acquired herd-immunity including pre-existing cross-immunity from other coronaviruses, both cornerstones of immunological and virological science; and (6) ignoring the fact that Covid was the plague that never was because it had been circulating globally, courtesy of the vast international Chinese tourist trade, since as early as September-October 2019, with nobody noticing anything statistically out of the ordinary in overall death rates prior to the March Madness triggered by panicky politicians in 2020.

Lockdown policy panic

From this failure of data and basic science, it has been a logical shimmy for the Left to join the policy panic by endorsing the disproportionate, and damaging, government response of economic lockdown. The Left does so under the time-honoured and politically-resonant banner of placing ‘lives before commerce’ but, in this instance, the sterling socialist catchphrase of ‘people before profit’ is mere rote dogma because it seeks to crack the nut of a mostly humdrum virus with the sledgehammer of deep economic contraction resulting in massive job losses and a decline in working class living standards, whilst recklessly embracing a giant Ponzi scheme of stellar government debt and deficit which will inevitably be paid for by austerity, increased taxes and lost opportunity costs which will fall most heavily, as they always do, on the current and future working class.

‘New Normal’ pseudoscience

Lockdown is the central dogma of ‘social distancing’ pseudoscience, a voodoo religion which comes with a host of ineffective, superstitious, magical-thinking, placebo-like, demonstratively ostentatious ‘New Normal’ rituals, all of which the Left has uncritically subscribed to – school closures, quarantining the healthy, smart-phone QR sign-in, Perspex checkout shields, masks, the 1.5 metre rule, test-test-test, track-and-trace, elbow-bumps and fist-pumps, the Obsessive Compulsive Disorder of hand sanitiser use, high-rotation North Korean style ‘public safety announcements’, Stand-Here/Don’t-Sit-There decals, ‘support bubbles’, Covid Marshals, Hallelujah vaccines, immunity-passports, limits on public gatherings, curfews, travel restrictions, border closures …. all of these pointless political and cultural theatrics predicated on a wildly exaggerated fear of a not terribly lethal virus. By also recycling vacuous slogans – ‘flatten the curve’, ‘do the right thing’, ‘save lives’, ‘slow the spread’, ‘stop the spread, ‘stay safe’ – the Covid-deranged Left has abrogated critical thinking for simplistic advertising copy.

Phil goes on to diagnose the “political pathologies afflicting the Left from lockdown” and explores the root causes.

Worth reading in full.

Lockdown Bills Begin to Arrive

In his budget yesterday, Chancellor Rishi Sunak brought the beginnings of realism to bear on the public finances after a year of make-believe economics, though there was still plenty of that. Kate Andrews has the details in the Spectator.

Last March’s £30bn spending splurge was just the start of hundreds of billions of pounds spent in the fight against COVID-19. Today Sunak pledged another £65bn: furlough and the Universal Credit uplift were both extended; incentive payments for businesses to take on apprentices were doubled; and ‘restart grants’ worth £5bn to help businesses get back on their feet were unveiled.

But this Budget wasn’t all giveaways. The Tory Chancellor announced a new, tiered system for corporation tax, which hikes the rate from 19% to 25% in 2023 for the most profitable businesses. He has also frozen personal income tax thresholds: dubbed a ‘stealth tax’, this will bump workers into higher tax brackets as wages rise while the thresholds don’t.

What does this mixed bag of policies mean for the UK’s economic recovery? The good news out of today’s Budget was an update from the Office for Budget Responsibility, which has moved forward its most recent forecast for GDP to return to pre-pandemic levels. This is now expected to happen in the middle of next year.

After contracting an astonishing 9.9% in 2020, growth is forecast to be 4% this year (reflecting a winter dominated by lockdown, and a summer in which restrictions are expected to be lifted), followed by a specular 7.3% boom in 2022.

The more problematic news, however, is that after 2022, growth rates are expected to fall back down to business as usual: hovering around a fine, but by no means impressive, 1.6% rate.  

As we continue to struggle through severe hits to the economy (another dip is predicted by the OBR this winter to account for the current lockdown), any positive growth figures might seem like good news. But if Sunak has plans to address the UK’s £2.8 trillion debt and sky-high deficits in the coming years without raising taxes further, it’s going to require a pro-growth agenda. 

Kate explains that the tax hikes are not to try to pay off the mountainous debt – a political aspiration that has receded into the far distance – but merely to tread water and service it.

The bills are finally falling due and it’s not pretty. The unemployment bomb has been deferred once again with the extension of the Universal Basic Income furlough scheme to the autumn. That’s a nettle no Government wants to grasp and it will be interesting to see what happens as we get closer to September.

Worth reading Kate’s piece in full.

The HCQ Saga

We’re publishing today an original piece by Rick Bradford, an Honorary Senior Research Fellow at the University of Bristol Department of Engineering, who asks if much of the world has failed to benefit from an effective, early-stage treatment for COVID-19, hydroxychloroquine (HCQ), because of misleading early trial results. He writes:

Hydroxychloroquine is not an exotic new drug with which doctors and medical authorities have little experience. On the contrary, it has been used widely for decades to treat malaria, lupus and rheumatoid arthritis. It came to public attention as a potential treatment for COVID-19 early in 2020, not least because of President Trump’s espousal of it.

In the period March – July 2020, attention focused on the WHO-led multinational Solidarity Trial and the UK’s own Recovery Trial which addressed the efficacy of hydroxychloroquine against COVID-19.

The Chief Investigators of the Recovery project released a press statement on June 5th 2020 which stated simply, “no clinical benefit from use of hydroxychloroquine in hospitalised patients with COVID-19”.

On July 4th 2020 the Solidarity project discontinued the hydroxychloroquine and lopinavir/ritonavir trials. The interim trial results showed that hydroxychloroquine and lopinavir/ritonavir produced little or no reduction in the mortality of hospitalized COVID-19 patients when compared to standard of care. The Solidarity Trial found that all four treatments evaluated (remdesivir, hydroxychloroquine, lopinavir/ritonavir and interferon) had little or no effect on overall mortality, initiation of ventilation and duration of hospital stay in hospitalised patients.

The Recovery and Solidarity trials were exclusively carried out on seriously ill patients in hospital, rather than the early-stage patients for which there was existing evidence that hydroxychloroquine might be effective. A drug which acts against the pathogen is most relevant when the pathogen is multiplying. In the later stages of COVID-19, the illness becomes an immune-system-driven inflammatory condition, and by that time the original pathogen has already done its damage. Could it be that the negative results of the Recovery and Solidarity trials were due to their deployment to patients in an inappropriate phase of the disease? Certainly, Professor Didier Raoult from IHU-Marseille, and an early leading proponent of hydroxychloroquine, was not impressed with the Recovery trial, accusing it of being “the Marx Brothers doing science”.

In passing I note that a further multinational trial, REMAP-CAP, was also deployed only to seriously ill patients with severe pneumonia admitted to an intensive care unit (ICU). I have found no results from this study. On June 3rd 2020 it was suspended following the scare from a now infamous Lancet paper by Mehra et al which claimed the use of hydroxychloroquine increased death rates (the paper was retracted a few days later). I presume that trial was never restarted.

Another criticism of the Recovery and Solidarity trials which has been made is of the dosage regime, with the doses appearing to be substantially greater than standard practice when the drug is used against malaria, lupus or rheumatoid arthritis (see, for example, “Killing the cure: The strange war against hydroxychloroquine“).

Worth reading in full.

Stop Press: A paper on another cheap drug that has shown early strong signs of effectiveness, ivermectin, was removed this week by the journal Frontiers in Pharmacology, despite being provisionally accepted, leading to questions of fair treatment. The Scientist has more details.

The paper’s removal has drawn anger from members of the FLCCC [Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance] and its followers. In comments on Twitter and in an interview with The Scientist, the organization’s president, Pierre Kory, describes the move as “censorship.” He adds in the interview that the paper had already successfully passed through multiple rounds of review. In reversing the paper’s acceptance, the journal is “allowing some sort of external peer reviewer to comment on our paper,” he says. “I find that very abnormal.”

Ivermectin is widely used in tropical medicine to treat parasitic infections, but its use as a COVID-19 drug has been controversial since the beginning of the pandemic, with major health organizations consistently stating that there is insufficient evidence for its efficacy in prevention or treatment of the disease.

The FLCCC’s paper (also posted on the organisation’s website) reviewed epidemiological and clinical evidence on ivermectin’s use in people infected with and exposed to SARS-CoV-2. In it, the authors argued that health agencies such as the National Institutes of Health (NIH) should update their recommendations to include the drug.

Frontiers takes no position on the efficacy of ivermectin as a treatment of patients with COVID-19, however, we do take a very firm stance against unbalanced or unsupported scientific conclusions.—Frederick Fenter, Frontiers

After being contacted by The Scientist, the journal posted a statement from Frontiers’s chief executive editor, Frederick Fenter, saying that “Frontiers takes no position on the efficacy of ivermectin as a treatment of patients with COVID-19, however, we do take a very firm stance against unbalanced or unsupported scientific conclusions.”

During review of the article in what the journal refers to as “the provisional acceptance phase,” Fenter says in the statement, members of Frontiers’s research integrity team identified “a series of strong, unsupported claims based on studies with insufficient statistical significance, and at times, without the use of control groups.”

The statement continues: “Further, the authors promoted their own specific ivermectin-based treatment which is inappropriate for a review article and against our editorial policies. In our view, this paper does not offer an objective nor balanced scientific contribution to the evaluation of ivermectin as a potential treatment for COVID-19.”

The statement provided no information about why these concerns had been raised and acted on now, rather than earlier in the publication process.

Worth reading in full.

Stop Press 2: The British Ivermectin Recommendation Development (BIRD) panel has issued its recommendation on the use of ivermectin for COVID-19. It explains:

The antiparasitic medicine ivermectin, which is widely available in LMICs, has been tested in numerous clinical trials of prevention and treatment of COVID-19 with promising results. A large body of evidence on ivermectin use in COVID-19 had thus accumulated, which required urgent review by health professionals and other stakeholders to determine whether it could inform clinical practice in the UK and elsewhere. More specifically, answers were needed to the following priority questions: (i) For people with COVID-19 infection, does ivermectin compared with placebo or no ivermectin improve health outcomes?, and (ii) for people at higher risk of COVID-19 infection, does ivermectin compared with placebo or no ivermectin improve health outcomes?

On February 20th 2021, the British Ivermectin Recommendation Development (BIRD) meeting was convened in Bath, United Kingdom, to evaluate the evidence on ivermectin use for the prevention and treatment of COVID-19. Evidence to address the priority questions was evaluated by a panel of clinical experts and other stakeholders in the form of a DECIDE evidence-to-decision framework, the gold standard tool for developing clinical practice guidelines.

Find it here.

A School That’s Following Government Guidance

This is not Government guidance

A Lockdown Sceptics reader has got in touch to tell us that, in line with Government guidance, his son’s school is not insisting on tests and masks, and has responded well to his emails querying their initial statements.

I just wanted to write, following the Daily Telegraph reporting that schools are banning pupils who do not have the tests, that my son’s school is not like that. I wrote an email to the school last week highlighting all the points (see below). The headmaster wrote to all parents on Tuesday confirming this and their position on masks.

“In line with Government direction, I would also wish to highlight that, whilst testing is strongly encouraged, it remains voluntary and, in those instances where parents do not wish their children to be tested (or, indeed, where the students are of an age (16 or above) when they can decide themselves not to be tested) they are still able to return to School as normal. In a similar fashion, the Government direction we are following as a School is that the wearing of masks inside buildings (for example, in classrooms and communal spaces) is recommended but not compulsory. As we gain a greater understanding of how many pupils choose not to wear a mask, we may adapt our systems to enable greater social distancing or to further reduce risk in other ways”. 

I have been writing to them quite a lot and got my son excused from wearing a mask last term, highlighting that a GP letter was not required and pointing them towards the Government website. Their position seems to become more relaxed following my emails (for example, “must have completed their first test” became “should have been offered Test 1 before they return”). Maybe my emails have opened their eyes a little. I hope so.

Here is my original email.

Dear Mr XXXXX,

Good morning. I am writing in relation to the testing programme as part of the return of pupils to face to face tuition. I want to understand what the school’s position is in relation to being tested or not and the reasons behind those rules, bearing in mind the legality of any such decision.

You state in your letter dated February 25th 2021 that, “before students start face to face teaching, they must have completed their first test (Test 1)”. This is not the Government’s position. You later state that, “testing of course remains completely voluntary, although strongly encouraged.” It hasn’t been made clear what will happen if pupils do not have the tests, but I should point out what it says on the relevant government website here.

It says, “From March 8th, all children and students should return to school and college. All primary pupils should attend school from this date. All secondary pupils and college students will be offered testing from March 8th, and those who consent to testing should return to face-to-face education following their first negative test result. If you or your child (if they are aged over 18) do not consent, they will not be stopped from going back and will return in line with their school or college’s arrangements.” (emphasis added)

It is therefore perfectly clear that the tests are voluntary and children are not to be excluded if they do not have the tests. All it is saying is that if you do have the tests, you need to have a negative result before returning. This is the Government’s position and the legal position. What are the arrangements at the school for those who do not have the tests, bearing in mind what I have brought to your attention, i.e., you cannot exclude those who do not have the tests?

I look forward to your reply.

Yours sincerely

Stop Press: The Guardian asks: “Should primary schoolchildren be made to wear masks?” Communist Party and SAGE member Susan Michie says the benefits are that whatever small degree of transmission is occurring in these age groups could be limited, and it could help normalise the practice, meaning young children wearing masks may make their families more likely to accept masks. And that’s where the debate is in the Guardian.

Help For Parents of Children Who Don’t Wear Masks or Consent to Tests at School

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Jo Rogers from Lawyers for Liberty is offering a useful service on Facebook for the parents of children who don’t wear masks or consent to tests.

If you don’t want conflict with the school, but want your concerns noted, click this button to provide your details.

The email below will then be sent anonymously within 48 hours from Lawyers for Liberty.

The email will not reference your child or you.

Here is the email.

Find it on Facebook here.

Poetry Corner

A Complex Post-traumatic in Covid Times

When I walk into the shop
All you see is a selfish being
Not wearing a mask as provision
But my trauma is not for your seeing

The mask represents oppression
Not only in my life, but historically
Despite now loose from their clutches
I still do not feel free

My trauma is not palatable
To the staunch covid followers
Though they do not know the abuse
Inflicted on me as child by monsters

They say, “I’m doing it to save lives”
But when I’m triggered I die daily
The manipulation ever rife
Gas lighting is not a maybe

Being under house arrest is the same
As when I was locked in my room at 3
Banging on the door with my cries
Till I was let out temporarily.

Being forced fed my food
Like the propaganda machine and their lies
If you really were humane
Why not look into my eyes

Tell me my pain doesnt matter
Or that of my fellow spirits
We are just humans coping best we can
But being pushed to our outer limits

I had too much forced upon me
So forgive me for declining the coercion
I will not be poisoned by their prick
So go ahead, cast your aspersion

Rising From the Ashes

Four readers today have written to tell us about their new business ventures since lockdown disrupted their previous employment.

Herts Pasta:

My husband is a chef who lost his job as a result of the Government restrictions (not as a result of Covid). He has now set up a business in Hertfordshire making and delivering fresh pasta meal kits www.hertspasta.com. 

Simpkin & Roses:

Simpkin & Roses was a successful catering and events business, owned and run by me and my wife, and our sole source of income. We had a good reputation and were really beginning to see the rewards from 10 years of work, during which we also got married and had two children.

This all came to an abrupt end a little under a year ago when our business effectively became illegal. Due to various technicalities we have only qualified for around £6k of grants. I won’t get started on this as it’s counterproductive!

We have just launched a nationwide delivery service of really delicious frozen ready meals, all made by hand in small batches. All packaging is recyclable and compostable. We will have children’s meals available very soon but at the moment we have a selection of meals and soups, all double portions. We launched on Monday at long last, having taken until July to really come to terms with the fact that the “three weeks” was the long haul. We had our third child in November which was another complication but finally we have done it and are very excited about the future!

Anyway the website is www.simpkinandroses.com and we would love to serve any like-minded sceptics. We are running a promotion at the moment and if you use the coupon WELCOME21 at the checkout you will get 15% off.

Alison Cotton:

I have been running my own bookkeeping business in the Salisbury area for 13 years but, with many of my clients forced by this wretched lockdown into closure or vastly reduced operations, I am now earning less than half of my income a year ago.

I’m simply not ready to throw in the towel so if any businesses or individuals out there would like some assistance with their bookkeeping or general office admin I’d be delighted to help – and would offer my services free of charge initially if someone is really struggling. I’d hate to see the entrepreneurial spirit crushed in small businesses who have quite enough to deal with in complying with the outrageous barriers put in their way by this government.

Please email me here.

Huckleberry:

Since losing my position at the start of Lockdown 1, I then spent much time sitting around waiting for it all to get back to normal, however as we all know things didn’t. My wife then lost her job in October and we then decided to start a new venture. I have been in the kitchen and bespoke furniture industry before, but www.huckleberryhome.co.uk started up around the kitchen table in November and I am pleased to report is now firing on all cylinders after a three month start time. It’s been a lot of hard work, has literally been done for nothing as we are still both on Universal Credit but I am delighted that it is working and hope you can share the good news.

If you have a story to share then email us here and we’ll see if we can give your new venture a boost.

COVID-1984

A few more Party slogans from readers:

CRUELTY IS COMPASSION
INFORMED CONSENT IS CONFORMED CONSENT
PROTECT THE NHS – DIE AT HOME

WE ARE NO LONGER AT WAR WITH THE SOUTH AFRICAN VARIANT; WE ARE NOW AT WAR WITH THE BRAZILIAN VARIANT. WE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN AT WAR WITH THE BRAZILIAN VARIANT

Round-up

  • “Covid vaccines may stop spread ‘almost completely’ with jabs working ‘better than any of us could have imagined’” – Some good news from Public Health England for the lockdown easing in the Evening Standard
  • “I was cuffed by the Covid Stasi… queueing for a coffee: This 51-year-old mother strolled two miles to get some refreshment – but fell foul of the long arm of the law” – Another depressing indication of the Covid corruption of policing, in the Mail
  • “Every single prosecution under Coronavirus Act was found to be ‘unlawful’” – On the other hand, the police are not having much success bringing prosecutions under the legislation, as this video in the Metro shows
  • “No jabs, no nightclubs for young antivaxers, says Covid adviser Devi Sridhar” – The Zero Covid anthropologist is making up rules for Scotland’s young people again, reports the Times
  • “People with severe mental disorders have higher risk of death from COVID-19” – Emily Henderson in News Medical reviews a paper by Martin Maripuu and colleagues at Umeå University and Karolinska Institute in Sweden that finds people with severe mental disorders have a significantly increased risk of dying from COVID-19 – a four-fold difference among the elderly compared to those of a similar age
  • “NHS hospitals in London are told to prepare for a ‘possible surge’ in Covid patients later this year as data shows how the virus has retreated across the capital” – The Mail reports on leaked guidance to prepare for a third wave, despite the vaccines. If the NHS is ready for it this time, does that mean we don’t all have to be confined to our homes to make up for their lack of preparedness?
  • “Sweden Moves To Protect Academic Freedom After Professor Quits Covid Research Due To Harassment” – Jonathan Turley contrasts the Nordic country’s robust response to that of the United States
  • “‘NINETY PER CENT of Germany’s severe COVID-19 patients have migrant background and more than half are Muslim’ despite making up 4.8% of the population – with politicians ‘afraid to tackle the problem in case they look racist’” – The Mail with an extraordinary statistic, and oddly different to the UK
  • “The Divisive Nature of Covid Policies” – Watch Joe Rogan go full lockdown sceptic
  • “The verdict on Johnson’s Covid battle? Fail, fail, fail” – Ewen Stewart in Conservative Woman says on any measure “this has been a miserable COVID-19 for the UK”
  • “Heil the vaccine apartheid!” – Laura Perrins in Conservative Woman spies worrying echoes of history in the coming discrimination against the unvaccinated
  • “Mask madness makes my (donated) blood boil” – Nicola Lund also in Conservative Woman asks why she can receive her vaccine unmasked but cannot donate blood, among other absurdities
  • “Hundreds of thousands of Brits sign petition against COVID vaccine passports” – Lifesite News reports on the petition, which you can sign here
  • “Lockdowns: Which ‘Experts’ Were Right?” – David Catron in the American Spectator says it’s time for a reckoning
  • “Equivalent of Covid emissions drop needed every two years – study” – Guardian report on something that is definitely not any kind of motive for secretly appreciating lockdowns
  • “Here’s how the Government can accelerate the lifting of lockdown” – Andrew Lilico tries to give the Government some good advice on its own terms in the Telegraph
  • “Galway students told to write 2,000 word essay for breaching COVID-19 guidelines” – University students at NUI Galway have been “asked” to watch a video and write a “reflective essay” about the potential impact their actions could have on family, friends and society, reports RTE
  • “T-cells recognise new Covid variants, study finds” – Times report on a new pre-print by Alison Tarke and colleagues at the La Jolla Institute for Immunology in California showing T-cell immunity is not appreciably diminished by coronavirus variants. Which, if true, makes a nonsense of this Imperial-style modelling suggesting the Brazilian variant may be able to re-infect up to 61% of people who have previously had COVID-19
  • “First dose of Oxford University’s Covid vaccine causes twice as many side-effects as Pfizer’s” – First vaccine results from the ZOE Covid Symptom Study app reported in the Mail

Theme Tunes Suggested by Readers

Five today: “The Fear” by Travis, “I Won’t Back Down” by Tom Petty And The Heartbreakers, “My City Was Gone” by Pretenders,  “Line Up” by Elastica and “Where’s the Freedom” by Subhumans.

Love in the Time of Covid

We have created some Lockdown Sceptics Forums, including a dating forum called “Love in a Covid Climate” that has attracted a bit of attention. We have a team of moderators in place to remove spam and deal with the trolls, but sometimes it takes a little while so please bear with us. You have to register to use the Forums as well as post comments below the line, but that should just be a one-time thing. Any problems, email Lockdown Sceptics here.

Sharing Stories

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Woke Gobbledegook

We’ve decided to create a permanent slot down here for woke gobbledegook. Today, it’s racist babies. Christopher Rufo tweets that “the Arizona Department of Education has created an ‘equity’ toolkit claiming that babies show the first signs of racism at three months old and that white children ‘remain strongly biased in favour of whiteness’ by age five”. Spiked has the details.

Have you ever wondered if your baby is racist? You should, according to the Arizona Department of Education.

Journalist Christopher Rufo’s investigations have revealed how far critical race theory has spread in America’s institutions – including, most alarmingly, in schools.

His latest discovery is that the Arizona Department of Education has released a new “equity” toolkit intended to help families and teachers tackle racism among children. It advises that even babies as young as three months old can show racial prejudice. The evidence? They “look more at faces which match the race of their caregivers”.

According to the toolkit, by the age of two and a half kids use race to determine who their playmates should be. “Expressions of racial prejudice often peak at ages four and five”, it says. “By kindergarten, children show many of the same racial attitudes that adults in our culture hold – they have already learned to associate some groups with higher status than others.”

So what should we do about this? The toolkit says that children must be made aware that “the reality in which they are embedded ascribes unearned privileges to their whiteness”.

Worth reading in full.

Stop Press: With The Muppet Show now available on Disney+, the company has slapped a woke warning on it: “This program includes negative depictions and/or mistreatment of peoples or cultures. These stereotypes were wrong then and are wrong now. Rather than remove this content, we want to acknowledge its harmful impact, learn from it and spark conversation to create a more inclusive future together.”

Paul du Quenoy in the Critic can see why.

White and class privilege also rear their ugly heads throughout the series. The otherwise innocuous-looking Scooter, a bespectacled novice who seems so nice and inoffensive in his casually preppy mien, sure does know how to get his way in the theatre in which the show is set. All he has to do is issue implicit threats at Kermit the Frog, who manages the acts, by mentioning his unseen uncle, who owns the theatre and will presumably wield all the inequitable power of finance capital if Scooter’s whims and dictates are ignored. The hateful structures of power in the Muppet universe are all too obvious, even if their fetters are invisible.

And who could ignore Statler and Waldorf, the greatest villains of them all, a pair of old white males in black tie who survey the action from the elevated comfort of their exclusive box? Named for prominent hotels that are perhaps the source of their wealth, their main function is to cast down sarcastic comments upon the poor defenceless performers while they also, to add insult to injury, mock each other for their various disabilities. At the very least, we should have a separate warning to guard us against the ugly and retrograde notion, so blatantly reinforced by The Muppet Show, that the arts only exist for the amusement and approval of rich white men.

Worth reading in full.

“Mask Exempt” Lanyards

We’ve created a one-stop shop down here for people who want to obtain a “Mask Exempt” lanyard/card – because wearing a mask causes them “severe distress”, for instance. You can print out and laminate a fairly standard one for free here and the Government has instructions on how to download an official “Mask Exempt” notice to put on your phone here. And if you feel obliged to wear a mask but want to signal your disapproval of having to do so, you can get a “sexy world” mask with the Swedish flag on it here.

A reader has started a website that contains some useful guidance about how you can claim legal exemption. Another reader has created an Android app which displays “I am exempt from wearing a face mask” on your phone. Only 99p.

If you’re a shop owner and you want to let your customers know you will not be insisting on face masks or asking them what their reasons for exemption are, you can download a friendly sign to stick in your window here.

And here’s an excellent piece about the ineffectiveness of masks by a Roger W. Koops, who has a doctorate in organic chemistry. See also the Swiss Doctor’s thorough review of the scientific evidence here and Prof Carl Heneghan and Dr Tom Jefferson’s Spectator article about the Danish mask study here.

Stop Press: Joggers have been told by scientists they should wear face masks when running outside near others. The Derbyshire Times has more.

Experts have warned there can be a “danger” for pedestrians when a “puffing, panting” jogger passes by them, but stressed it is safe for people to “run freely” when in wide open spaces.

The warning comes amid fears that pedestrians could inhale the air from passing joggers, putting them at possible risk of catching Covid-19.

Trish Greenhalgh, professor in primary care health sciences at the University of Oxford, told Good Morning Britain: “There is no doubt the virus is in the air, there is no doubt that you can catch it if you inhale, and that someone else has exhaled.

“The exercising jogger – the puffing and panting jogger – you can feel their breath come and you can sometimes actually feel yourself inhale it, so there’s no doubt that there is a danger there.

“40% of Covid cases happen by catching it from people who have no symptoms.

“So you’re jogging along, you think you’re fine, and then the next day you develop symptoms of Covid, but you’ve actually breathed that Covid onto someone perhaps you know, an old lady walking a dog, or something like that.”

“40% of Covid cases happen by catching it from people who have no symptoms” – that’s even higher than the Government’s mantra of one in three. In fact the studies show asymptomatic and pre-symptomatic transmission accounts for only around 0.7% of transmission, not 40%.

Stop Press 2: A new study by D. G. Rancourt reviewing the harms of mask-wearing has been published on ResearchGate. Find it here.

The Great Barrington Declaration

Professor Martin Kulldorff, Professor Sunetra Gupta and Professor Jay Bhattacharya

The Great Barrington Declaration, a petition started by Professor Martin Kulldorff, Professor Sunetra Gupta and Professor Jay Bhattacharya calling for a strategy of “Focused Protection” (protect the elderly and the vulnerable and let everyone else get on with life), was launched in October and the lockdown zealots have been doing their best to discredit it ever since. If you googled it a week after launch, the top hits were three smear pieces from the Guardian, including: “Herd immunity letter signed by fake experts including ‘Dr Johnny Bananas’.” (Freddie Sayers at UnHerd warned us about this the day before it appeared.) On the bright side, Google UK has stopped shadow banning it, so the actual Declaration now tops the search results – and Toby’s Spectator piece about the attempt to suppress it is among the top hits – although discussion of it has been censored by Reddit. In February, Facebook deleted the GBD’s page because it “goes against our community standards”. The reason the zealots hate it, of course, is that it gives the lie to their claim that “the science” only supports their strategy. These three scientists are every bit as eminent – more eminent – than the pro-lockdown fanatics so expect no let up in the attacks. (Wikipedia has also done a smear job.)

You can find it here. Please sign it. Now over three quarters of a million signatures.

Update: The authors of the GBD have expanded the FAQs to deal with some of the arguments and smears that have been made against their proposal. Worth reading in full.

Update 2: Many of the signatories of the Great Barrington Declaration are involved with new UK anti-lockdown campaign Recovery. Find out more and join here.

Update 3: You can watch Sunetra Gupta set out the case for “Focused Protection” here and Jay Bhattacharya make it here.

Update 4: The three GBD authors plus Prof Carl Heneghan of CEBM have launched a new website collateralglobal.org, “a global repository for research into the collateral effects of the COVID-19 lockdown measures”. Follow Collateral Global on Twitter here. Sign up to the newsletter here.

Judicial Reviews Against the Government

There are now so many legal cases being brought against the Government and its ministers we thought we’d include them all in one place down here.

The Simon Dolan case has now reached the end of the road. The current lead case is the Robin Tilbrook case which challenges whether the Lockdown Regulations are constitutional, although that case, too, has been refused permission to proceed. There’s still one more thing that can be tried. You can read about that and contribute here.

The GoodLawProject and three MPs – Debbie Abrahams, Caroline Lucas and Layla Moran – brought a Judicial Review against Matt Hancock for failing to publish details of lucrative contracts awarded by his department and it was upheld. The Court ruled Hancock had acted unlawfully.

Then there’s John’s Campaign which is focused specifically on care homes. Find out more about that here.

There’s the GoodLawProject and Runnymede Trust’s Judicial Review of the Government’s award of lucrative PPE contracts to various private companies. You can find out more about that here and contribute to the crowdfunder here.

Scottish Church leaders from a range of Christian denominations have launched legal action, supported by the Christian Legal Centre against the Scottish Government’s attempt to close churches in Scotland  for the first time since the the Stuart kings in the 17th century. The church leaders emphasised it is a disproportionate step, and one which has serious implications for freedom of religion.”  Further information available here.

There’s the class action lawsuit being brought by Dr Reiner Fuellmich and his team in various countries against “the manufacturers and sellers of the defective product, PCR tests”. Dr Fuellmich explains the lawsuit in this video. Dr Fuellmich has also served cease and desist papers on Professor Christian Drosten, co-author of the Corman-Drosten paper which was the first and WHO-recommended PCR protocol for detection of SARS-CoV-2. That paper, which was pivotal to the roll out of mass PCR testing, was submitted to the journal Eurosurveillance on January 21st and accepted following peer review on January 22nd. The paper has been critically reviewed here by Pieter Borger and colleagues, who also submitted a retraction request, which was rejected in February.

And last but not least there was the Free Speech Union‘s challenge to Ofcom over its ‘coronavirus guidance’. A High Court judge refused permission for the FSU’s judicial review on December 9th and the FSU has decided not to appeal the decision because Ofcom has conceded most of the points it was making. Check here for details.

Samaritans

If you are struggling to cope, please call Samaritans for free on 116 123 (UK and ROI), email jo@samaritans.org or visit the Samaritans website to find details of your nearest branch. Samaritans is available round the clock, every single day of the year, providing a safe place for anyone struggling to cope, whoever they are, however they feel, whatever life has done to them.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
4 years ago

I was allowed to stay up late to watch The Sky At Night despite the economic horrors of the 1970s.

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iane
iane
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

And you ain’t seen nothing yet!

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Rowan
Rowan
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Bring back those economic 1970s horrors.

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Dermot McClatchey
Dermot McClatchey
4 years ago
Reply to  Rowan

Indeed. The 1970s were good times to be alive, in spite of what many try to tell us.

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OKUK
OKUK
4 years ago
Reply to  Dermot McClatchey

Hmmm Bay City Rollers v the Beatles. Yes, it’s a tough one.:)

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Steven F
Steven F
4 years ago
Reply to  OKUK

The Bay City Rollers certainly do NOT define 70s music! I think we had some the best music ever in the early seventies. Try: Led Zeppelin, Free, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Jethro Tull, Yes, Cream, Santana, Wishbone Ash, Neil Young, Canned Heat, Ry Cooder, Little Feat, Ten Years After, etc etc…
I could go on.

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stevie119
stevie119
4 years ago
Reply to  Steven F

All proper music.

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Steven F
Steven F
4 years ago
Reply to  stevie119

Indeed. Never bettered.

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JohnB
JohnB
4 years ago
Reply to  Steven F

Grateful Dead, Byrds, Jefferson Airplane/Starship, Commander Cody and his Lost Plane Airmen, Sweet, …

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JohnB
JohnB
4 years ago
Reply to  OKUK

Shang-a-lang !

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lorrinet
lorrinet
4 years ago
Reply to  Dermot McClatchey

Yes, they were great times to be young. Unfortunately, we didn’t guard our democracy during those heady days, and in our enthusiasm to change society we threw out much that was good, along with the bad.

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OKUK
OKUK
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Sibelius’s top notch tunes were a favourite of the time. They used one on a news doc programme called This Week – from Finlandia I think.

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Steven F
Steven F
4 years ago
Reply to  OKUK

It was the Karelia Suite. Wonderfully stirring piece of music.

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OKUK
OKUK
4 years ago
Reply to  Steven F

Thanks – yes. always get them mixed up!

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Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
4 years ago
Reply to  OKUK

Intermezzo from the Kerelia suite, I believe.

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Ceriain
Ceriain
4 years ago

Posted this just before shutting time on yesterday’s page: it should be here for all to see. 🙂

What a total non-surprise! https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-56271627

Covid: React study finds virus decline slowing in England


Yes, it’s Imperial’s monthly bullshit survey; specially designed to give the Regime the excuse to change the Lockdown timetable. Some real garbage in here:

But the study found some evidence of smaller falls in Yorkshire and the north-east, and apparent rises in London, the south-east andthe Midlands – although this was based on only a few days’ worth of data in
February.

Really?! See the attached graphic from the Gov’s own webpage for London ‘cases’. London daily ‘case’ numbers are back where they were in early September before the Regime started mass testing there.

Imperial are also trying to ramp up the schools paranoia again; helping out the unions’ cries of “teachers will die!”

The React study also found some workers were more likely to be infected than others. They included healthcare workers, care home workers and those working in education, nursery or childcare.

What a load of Bollocks!

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karenovirus
karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Ceriain

They used the same ‘slowdown is reducing’ trick on Local Live last summer as hospitalisations and deaths trickled towards zero.

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Ceriain
Ceriain
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Hospitalizations in London are back under 100 a day, and falling; Deaths* are in the low to mid teens, and falling – back to October numbers.

What bothers me is Johnson and his cabal only ever listen to Imperial.*(Usual ‘death’ caveats apply)

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Rowan
Rowan
4 years ago
Reply to  Ceriain

Or is it Imperial listening to the government cabal?

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Ceriain
Ceriain
4 years ago
Reply to  Ceriain

I only chose to start the graph on January 1st, NN.

That’s just before the current full lockdown began. you can see the whole graph here: https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/cases?areaType=region&areaName=London

And that’s us copied over the whole thread. 😉 🙂

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Ceriain
Ceriain
4 years ago
Reply to  Ceriain

Apologies for replying to myself, but I just want to add something, seeing that graph above.

It starts on January 1st; the latest lockdown started on the 5th. Notice how the “case” numbers start to plummet immediately; the day after, in fact.
Given the number of tests they were doing at the time, the number of “cases” should not have suddenly fallen liked that, in my opinion.

Unless they were fiddling the numbers, of course, to make it look like lockdown was having an instant effect.

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Annie
Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  Ceriain

A miracle! A miracle! Follow the shoe! Follow the gourd!

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GCarty80
GCarty80
4 years ago
Reply to  Ceriain

Except that on January 5th a good part of the country had been in Tier 4 (lockdown in all but name) for more than a week already.

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BertieFox
BertieFox
4 years ago
Reply to  Ceriain

Of course they’re fiddling the numbers Ceriain!!!

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Rowan
Rowan
4 years ago
Reply to  BertieFox

But surely they wouldn’t do that!

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Steve-Devon
Steve-Devon
4 years ago
Reply to  Ceriain

Davy Crocket, King of the wild frontier, for Texas and freedom a man was more willing to die. In my view the decisions to drop lockdown measures in Texas and Mississippi are crucial in demonstrating that micro-examinations of slight changes in graphs and stats should never have any impact on our freedoms.
It shows how far we have come down the the repressive totalitarian route that it is now accepted that we must look at these things to determine our freedoms. I am hopeful that these USA states that have opted for freedom will show that if we want to live as free people ‘rocking in the free world’ then the criteria for ever restricting our freedoms are way way above this sort of microc data examination.
This stuff should be the subject of back-room public health discussions looking at long term public health policy, never ever ever the bargaining criteria for our freedoms.

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Puddleglum
Puddleglum
4 years ago
Reply to  Ceriain

Could this possibly be because we are reaching the false positve rate? It can’t fall any further.

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TreeHugger
TreeHugger
4 years ago
Reply to  Puddleglum

Lodger works at an asymptomatic testing site, their positive results have been in line with false positive rate for a couple of weeks now. Their boss wants it to go a bit higher so they can justify staying open. 😡

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Rowan
Rowan
4 years ago
Reply to  Puddleglum

Quite, there will never Covid zero, until you stop testing.

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Old Bill
Old Bill
4 years ago
Reply to  Puddleglum

Phew! Boris was heard to exclaim.

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Basileus
Basileus
4 years ago
Reply to  Ceriain

Yes, it is an exponential, but a decreasing one: y = exp[-t/k]. Do you think the government know that exponentials can go down as well as up?

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Basileus
Basileus
4 years ago
Reply to  Basileus

Indeed, but there are one or two of us in the science community who still know which way is up.

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Crimson Avenger
Crimson Avenger
4 years ago
Reply to  Basileus

This graph of a seasonal disease is approximately hammock shaped, and as y tends to 0 the gradient tends to infinity. Journalists can feed off that.

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Burlington
Burlington
4 years ago
Reply to  Basileus

In most cases they don’t even know what the word exponential means, but its useful to insert in government project fear briefings. It features heavily in the lexicon of technical words in fake news reports.

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Edward
Edward
4 years ago
Reply to  Burlington

A popularised technicality, to use the term in Fowler’s Modern English Usage.

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Mayo
Mayo
4 years ago
Reply to  Basileus

You’re right – but the ZOE trajectory is a bit flatter than I would have expected at this point in time.

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
4 years ago

China Mandates Anal Swab COVID Tests For All Visitors, Despite “Psychological Pain”

Chinese officials have decided to make the humiliating anal swab tests for the coronavirus mandatory for almost all international arrivals…

Chinese health experts claim the anal swab is much more accurate than a nasal cavity or cheek swab and can avoid ‘false negatives’

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Skippy
Skippy
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

If I were ever to go visit Great Aunt Moon and uncle cricket in wuhan I’ll tel, them where they can shove their tests! Oh…

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  Skippy

You could just send a sample by post in advance.

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Burlington
Burlington
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

There was a young man from Newcastle.
Who sent Xi a brown paper parcel.
In it was shit & on it was writ.
A present from some buggers arsehole.

I’ll get my coat….

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sophie123
sophie123
4 years ago
Reply to  Burlington

😂

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Freddy Boy
Freddy Boy
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

UNREAL

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BertieFox
BertieFox
4 years ago
Reply to  Freddy Boy

Isn’t it? Can’t get my head around this at all.

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Annie
Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Organise an international conference in China for health secretaries.

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Laura Suckling
Laura Suckling
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Perhaps the next Davos conference could be re-located to China.

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GCarty80
GCarty80
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

I suppose it will serve its purpose in keeping the virus out, by deterring almost all foreigners from travelling to China in the first place…

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penelope pitstop
penelope pitstop
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Just as well we can’t leave the country cause no-one’s sticking anything up my arse!
I wonder if this will catch on in europe – “bottoms up” mate! 🙂

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Burlington
Burlington
4 years ago
Reply to  penelope pitstop

They are still trying to blow smoke up everyone’s arses!

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Old Bill
Old Bill
4 years ago
Reply to  penelope pitstop

“Just as well we can’t leave the country cause no-one’s sticking anything up my arse!”

I think you will find that Boris has been doing exactly that for over a year now.

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Jez Hewitt
Jez Hewitt
4 years ago
Reply to  penelope pitstop

In fairness, having been subjected to numerous tests of late due to travel, I can honestly say I’d rather they swab my arse. The nose is just a no go for me. Makes it unpleasant for them too in most cases.

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Old Bill
Old Bill
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Make sure on the flight over you eat nothing else but curried beans.

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Londo Mollari
Londo Mollari
4 years ago

Great lead article. Most on the left would rather talk about depraved sex than engage in a struggle about getting a better pay rate.

Distressing story about the psychotherapist cuffed by the police. Our brave boys and girls in blue really are the scum of the earth.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Londo Mollari

The Left Lockdown Sceptics piece really is well worth reading in full.
This on the politics of vaccines not highlighted ATL.

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Londo Mollari
Londo Mollari
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Oh gosh, that would put “Conor,” Jonathan, Toby and Will into a tizz.

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FerdIII
FerdIII
4 years ago
Reply to  Londo Mollari

They fully support EXPERIMENTAL DRUGS. THESE ARE NOT VACCINES FFS.

ATL of course the Daily Shill Puff Piece on the ‘holy grail’ of ‘transmission reduction’ stated by Wancock et al. NO proof exists that these drugs do anything except injury, maim and kill. 400 dead, 100 K injured and counting.

Nothing on LDS about that of course.

CJTW have all been jabbed one assumes…..

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Hugh_Manity
Hugh_Manity
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

The author appears to have not only a wonderful command of English but also a precisely accurate overview of the reality of this scamdemic. As already pointed out, this part is conspicuous by its absence in the ATL article.

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FerdIII
FerdIII
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh_Manity

All hail the experimental drugs…so this site has always said.

Then they moan about ‘drug IDs’, ‘drug passports’. What the hell would they expect? The whole point is digital surveillance.

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Who knew, there are some socialists with principles left after all.

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CivilianNotCovidian
CivilianNotCovidian
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Yes, we exist, and we need to join together to push out this hideous cross-party authoritarian stitch.

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jonathan Palmer
jonathan Palmer
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

The vaccines have been rushed but not to get the government off the hook but to ensnare everyone with a digital ID

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Bill Grates
Bill Grates
4 years ago
Reply to  jonathan Palmer

Absolutely correct

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BertieFox
BertieFox
4 years ago
Reply to  jonathan Palmer

Yes, to start the process of transhumanism

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CivilianNotCovidian
CivilianNotCovidian
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

This is EXACTLY right. These gangsters framed their experimental drugs as “vaccines” in ORDER to discredit anyone raising the alarm and questioning them as an “anti vaxxer”. They capitalised on the existing smear campaign aimed at anti vaxxers (many of whom have valid points that need further investigation and debate) in order to silence dissent. It is abhorrent what they’ve done. We have MPs and the BBC and other MSM outlets conditioned into being drug pushers because they’ve been led to believe any criticism is a “dangerous anti vax” position. THESE are the people who need to wake up and get ANGRY. The journalists and MPs and celebrities, who’ve been conned into pushing experimental drugs into people. We have to wake them up and support them. They are like the children coerced into selling drugs on the street. You don’t go after the children, you need to go after the cartel boss…

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Waldorf
Waldorf
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

It makes a number of good points. Some of them occurred to me previously but not expressed in the form of an article, such as when did the left suddenly develop a love affair with the police, the main implementers of lockdown?

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SilentP
SilentP
4 years ago
Reply to  Londo Mollari

That article is an excellent articulate summary of events over the last year.

It has been striking that my own expression of a reasoned lockdown sceptical perspective has led to accusations in some circles of me espousing extreme right wing views.

Left and Right seem to now be outdated terms. The establishment of appropriately named replacement terms with which people can identify could be an important factor in taking the battle forward.

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Annie
Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  SilentP

Agree. Been saying it for months.
Suffering is suffering and enslavement is enslavement. It doesn’t matter what social class you belong to, or what your job is ( or isn’t), or how you last voted.
And whether your child goes to Eton or to Crapwell Junior, if you send him or her to school to wear a face nappy all day, you’re criminal and the school is wicked.

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mattghg
mattghg
4 years ago
Reply to  SilentP

Right. People on our side make a mistake when they try to attach existing political labels to the WEF agenda. It isn’t really fascist or communist or socialist or capitalist. It’s … something else.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  mattghg

Corporatism

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ElizaP
ElizaP
4 years ago
Reply to  Londo Mollari

What shocks me most is when I see those horrific videos of police harassing yet another perfectly innocent person just out walking or the like is they don’t say anything. They just act totally robot-like and not a word out of them. Added that they so often seem to throw in a gratuitous grappling the person to the ground and then putting them in a chokehold (and keep that up despite any shouts about how they are hurting the person concerned). It shocks me to my core each time I witness one of those episodes. But indeed that woman-wanting-her-coffee episode was shocking enough. Just for the “crime” of walking precisely 2 miles forgoodnesssake. My quick calculation revealed that all my walks around here are at least 2 miles (one favourite coming in at precisely 1.9 miles and that’s assuming I don’t take a walk round the vicinity when I get there). So just why why why grab her for 2 miles or was she grabbed for the coffee – or was it a combination of both? So tough luck cops – one recent walk was that 1.9 miles, couldnt get my coffee I wanted from the (shut) cafe, but took… Read more »

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
4 years ago
Reply to  ElizaP

Yet again it makes you wonder why they don’t display the same zeal when in comes to dealing with REAL criminals – thieves, rapists, murderers, gangs, etc.

I’ve long been of the view that they will deserve everything they will get when the day of reckoning comes.

The police should be never made to forget their abominable role in this shit show. They should never be believed when they plead “poverty” and “cuts” as to why they aren’t doing their jobs. They’ve demonstrated during this time that they have the time, money and resources to harass ordinary people going about their business so why aren’t they going after the REAL criminals?

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BertieFox
BertieFox
4 years ago
Reply to  Bart Simpson

Well said,Mrs B!

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karenovirus
karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  ElizaP

2 miles is a forty minute slow stroll for an able bodied person.

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Dermot McClatchey
Dermot McClatchey
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

-so a ninety-minute slog for the average lardarse copper, then.

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Waldorf
Waldorf
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

I have recently walked three miles (during the good London weather). It took me about an hour.

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Tillysmum
Tillysmum
4 years ago
Reply to  Waldorf

Yes, I time myself every day (with the dog) and 20 mins covers a mile.

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Nessimmersion
Nessimmersion
4 years ago
Reply to  Tillysmum

Yet again, proof of Steins observation:

‘In Britain, everything is policed except crime’”

“It has become very apparent that British policemen are very aggressive when dealing with the passive, and very passive when dealing with the aggressive.”

The only cure is the immediate dismissal without pension of every policeman involved in Covid harassment for bringing the service into disrepute.

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Freecumbria
Freecumbria
4 years ago
Reply to  Londo Mollari

Yes, agree. Loved that first article. Just spot on.

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JohnB
JohnB
4 years ago
Reply to  Londo Mollari

Distressing story about the psychotherapist cuffed by the police. Our brave boys and girls in blue really are the scum of the earth.

She doesn’t agree.

“There are, of course, grievous breaches that must be controlled and I applaud the police for their part in this.”.

Ok for her, not for those grievous breachers …

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Londo Mollari
Londo Mollari
4 years ago

I remember Sir Patrick saying that the fact that so many trusted in astrology proved the truth of that old scientific law, namely “that there’s one born every minute.”

That dictum could be applied to so many aspects of the current situation.

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Annie
Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  Londo Mollari

I agree with you there. He published a searing little book debunking astrology, which I still treasure.

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JohnB
JohnB
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Sir Isaac Newton disagreed with both of you, Annie.

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Londo Mollari
Londo Mollari
4 years ago
Reply to  JohnB

Newton was twisted and bitter because Leibniz beat him to the calculus.

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JohnB
JohnB
4 years ago
Reply to  Londo Mollari

Or maybe concussed from all those apples falling on his head.

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OKUK
OKUK
4 years ago
Reply to  Londo Mollari

Sir Patrick got involved in “a little bit of politics” as Ben Elton used to say. Set up with others the “United Country Party”. Surprising really that the BBC didn’t escort him off the premises at that point.

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
4 years ago

Lockdowns or the planet gets it? Guardian ‘accidentally’ suggests Covid-like shutdowns every 2 years to meet Paris climate goals

Guardian originally posted the piece under the title “Global lockdown every two years needed to meet Paris CO2 goals – study.”

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Alex B
Alex B
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Thanks for that link. A few weeks ago someone on LS asked about the effect of global lockdown on CO2 levels and I posted this link to Dr.Roy Spencer’s blog because he had wondered the same thing. (Roy Spencer, with Dr. John Christy, maintains one of the satellite datasets for tropospheric/near surface warming at the University of Alabama in Huntsville. The other dataset is Remote Sensing Systems, RSS). Here’s that link again: https://www.drroyspencer.com/2020/06/covid-19-global-economic-downturn-not-affecting-co2-rise-may-2020-update/ As Dr.Spencer points out, the estimated 11% drop in anthropogenic CO2 emissions as a result of lockdowns (at the time of his blogpost), has had no effect on the increasing level of atmospheric CO2 over 2019 levels according to the Mauna Loa data, and he estimates that it would take a 4 fold decrease to ‘stabilise’ atmospheric CO2 levels. Just ponder that when it is suggested, as The Guardian article does, that lockdowns of our economies could be used to tackle the ‘climate emergency’. It is of no surprise to me that this stuff is coming out of the University of East Anglia, presumably the CRU (Climate Research Unit). Here’s a link to the latest dataset from Mauna Loa: https://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/ccgg/trends/ I am aware that some on here… Read more »

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  Alex B

I am aware that some on here don’t like these kinds of posts because they think that they are ‘off-topic’,

Let them jog on.

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CivilianNotCovidian
CivilianNotCovidian
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

It is all ON TOPIC when the topic is a coup of the people by a gang of global leaders playing god. Wait a few weeks, a couple of months maybe, until they drop the virus narrative altogether and start arguing that leaving your house for any reason HARMS the environment so you must be monitored at all times and “pay” a carbon tax for your every movement. Lockdown is the base tool for ALL authoritarian regimes and totalitarian structures. So it is very much on topic!

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FerdIII
FerdIII
4 years ago
Reply to  Alex B

IMO the CV 19 fascism is tightly linked to the Great Greentard Reset. Bozo Doris said last summer that your world would run on ‘guilt free’ energy, whatever the hell that means (millions of dead birds from the choppers, themselves made from carbon energy sources etc?).

So the 2 cults are intertwined, the Great Reset is the Warmtard fascism.

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Crystal Decanter
Crystal Decanter
4 years ago
Reply to  FerdIII

The Natsocs were ardent Greens
a fact left out of the history books

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karenovirus
karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Crystal Decanter

Hitler was non smoking, vegetarian and teetotal.

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Two-Six
Two-Six
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Yer but he bloody loved amphetamines

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JohnB
JohnB
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Which sums up how Woodbines, bully beef, and our Russian allies’ wodka, won WW2. 🙂

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StanleyDuke
StanleyDuke
4 years ago
Reply to  JohnB

And a lot of good it did us.

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StanleyDuke
StanleyDuke
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Sensible bloke.

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JohnB
JohnB
4 years ago
Reply to  Crystal Decanter

They’ve fucked about with the commonly understood meaning of ‘Green’ too.

Every rational person cares about the planet, our environment, and our impact on nature.

But they’ve turned being Green into someone who insists on non-fossil energy, not flying, and only eating insects.

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Old Bill
Old Bill
4 years ago
Reply to  FerdIII

guilt free energy = shivering

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Basileus
Basileus
4 years ago
Reply to  Alex B

..and as has been repeatedly pointed out by climate sceptics, the greenhouse effect does not exist. If it did it would violate the second law of thermodynamics.

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Dermot McClatchey
Dermot McClatchey
4 years ago
Reply to  Alex B

Hats Off To Harper!

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this is my username
this is my username
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

“or the planet gets it” is the language of terrorists. “Do as we say or granny gets it” has basically be used already. Shame on them!

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Cumbriacracked
Cumbriacracked
4 years ago
Reply to  this is my username

Coming soon, Stay Home, Protect the Planet, Save Lives

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MFvH
MFvH
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

In the 70’s during the oil crises we had car free Sundays in the Netherlands. If I remember correctly these were once a month.
Actually great fun! Rollerskating on the motorway!

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Waldorf
Waldorf
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Sometimes the hidden agenda just slips out.

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happychappy
happychappy
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

It’s been pretty obvious all along. They obviously believe that the plebs are too stupid to work this out for themselves. Vaccine passports? Digital apps that can be tracked so that all journeys can be monitored and people fined and punished for ‘excess travel’ and breaching their carbon allowance.

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Ceriain
Ceriain
4 years ago

Susan Michie is an evil cow! She’s not interested in Covid; she only wants to use children as lab rats in an experiment on their parents.

Devi Shridar is also an evil cow! She’s also not interested in Covid; she only wants to threaten young people because they won’t do what she wants them to do.

Interesting that the Times refers to young people (to whom the virus is no threat, so don’t even need the jab) as anti-vaxxers. Not taking a vaccine because you clearly don’t need it, does not make you an anti-vaxxer.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Ceriain

Who would have thought hippy dippy Totnes a cauldron of seething ant-vaxx conspiracy nutters
(from Local Live (mirror group news).

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Bigade
Bigade
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Brilliant. I’ve always liked Totnes. Now even more so. Let the place become a hotbed for the vax-sceptics. I will join them there.

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ElizaP
ElizaP
4 years ago
Reply to  Bigade

I like Totnes – but couldn’t afford it. One of the reasons I moved to Cardigan is seeing it described as the “the Welsh Totnes”. I’m working on the hotbedd angle….

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Melangell
Melangell
4 years ago
Reply to  ElizaP

Are you in Cardigan now, Eliza? I thought you’d moved to North Wales. If the former, I’d love to meet up. You can email me at anmaidrinrua(at)gmail.com

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Annie
Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  Melangell

I’m emailing you. Look out for verydes

Last edited 4 years ago by Annie
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Rowan
Rowan
4 years ago
Reply to  Bigade

Many many years ago, I spent a Friday night in Totnes, in a pub near the railway station. It was noisy, friendly and very boozy, but everything else just a distant blur. Always wanted to go back and now all the more so, given the enlightened attitude towards the Gates’s terminator vaccines.

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Annie
Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Just decided where my next short break will be. Anybody know a nice cottage near Totnes?

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CivilianNotCovidian
CivilianNotCovidian
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Great idea!! Let’s have our first LS party there on 20th March!

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Ned of the Hills
Ned of the Hills
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

“Resident Paul Wesley’ intends wearing a mask for rest of his life.

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Old Bill
Old Bill
4 years ago
Reply to  Ned of the Hills

“wearing a mask for rest of his life”

Don’t worry it won’t be very long.

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CivilianNotCovidian
CivilianNotCovidian
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

At last! I had high hopes for Totnes. I’m packing my bags now.

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PastImperfect
PastImperfect
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Nice to have a chuckle over the last sentence of the news clip.

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George L
George L
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Paul Wesley aka the Totnes Tosser 🙂

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richardw53
richardw53
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

On the other hand I can predict with 90% certainty that it is full of raving greens.

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Freddy Boy
Freddy Boy
4 years ago
Reply to  Ceriain

What a terrible Bitch she surely is !!!….

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Freddy Boy
Freddy Boy
4 years ago
Reply to  Ceriain

Me again , she is a behavioral scientist & a uk communist party member , I wouldn’t ask her to feed my cat never mind letting her shape children’s futures , she needs outing !! COME on Toby or Dellers DO IT !!!

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cloud6
cloud6
4 years ago
Reply to  Freddy Boy

On 100% salary, safe job, and sends her children to private school, no doubt.

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GCarty80
GCarty80
4 years ago
Reply to  Freddy Boy

A Communist Party of Britain member to be exact. The extreme left do after all oppose monarchy and (in Britain) generally advocate a united Ireland.

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RichardJames
RichardJames
4 years ago
Reply to  GCarty80

CPGB. As a Cold War (ex)soldier, we only looked forward to WWIII starting so we could shoot that bunch of traitors on sight.

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GCarty80
GCarty80
4 years ago
Reply to  RichardJames

The CPGB was dissolved in 1991 (and many of its members went on to found Democratic Left).

The Communist Party of Britain (which Susan Michie is a member of) had broken away from the CPGB in 1988 because they believed the CPGB leadership was too “Eurocommunist” (ie not sufficiently committed to Marxist-Leninist principles).

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Old Bill
Old Bill
4 years ago
Reply to  GCarty80

“The extreme left do after all oppose monarchy and (in Britain) generally advocate a united Ireland.”

#metoo

Maybe I should join?

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Jinks
Jinks
4 years ago
Reply to  Ceriain

Pedovorous banshees!

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karenovirus
karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Ceriain

Posted late yesterday by Godowneasy

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Whoever created that meme is a genuis.

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Basileus
Basileus
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Brilliant, just tweeted.

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Freddy Boy
Freddy Boy
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Well done , let’s get the old bag some proper publicity !!!

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steve_w
steve_w
4 years ago
Reply to  Ceriain

covid has certainly flushed a fifth column into the open

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Jinks
Jinks
4 years ago
Reply to  steve_w

For those with eyes to see, the genie is well and truly out of the bottle. The only good thing to come out of this hellish shitshow!

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CGL
CGL
4 years ago
Reply to  Jinks

It isn’t good when your kids are on the receiving end

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
4 years ago
Reply to  Ceriain

Exactly. Mitchie should be sacked from her post in UCL, jailed and struck off from whatever body she’s a member of. Her using of people especially children for her twisted experiments is evil.

Shridar is another one. What the feck is an anthropologist doing advising a government on matters of health? Since when has anthropology has anything to do with health?

Both women have put their disciplines into disrepute. A plague on their houses.

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GCarty80
GCarty80
4 years ago
Reply to  Ceriain

The worst thing about Devi Sridhar is that she’s an immigrant herself, which (given that countries following her recommended zero covid strategy would almost certainly ban immigration) means she’s a ladder-puller.

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Londo Mollari
Londo Mollari
4 years ago

I see that the Tokyo Olympics is likely to be a spectatorless event. I suspect it will also be a flop.

It may also be a tragedy. Leaving aside the Fukushima problem (10th anniversary next week of three full reactor meltdowns and subsequent events which are ongoing to this day). They are going to hold the Games in July/August. That is a very warm time of the year for physical exertion. In 2019 Japan had a severe heatwave and temperatures reached 40C in some places. A repeat of that would certainly make some of the sporting activities impossible.

In 1964 the Olympics in the city were held in October because of the climate. Now the final arbiters of dates (as ell as of health, vaccines and pandemics) are the TV and media corporations.

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Ed Phillips
Ed Phillips
4 years ago
Reply to  Londo Mollari

Absolutely spot on.
My interest in professional sport has dwindled to nothing. The mockery of an empty stadium, coupled with the TV putting crowd noises over the top is so bizarre that I’m amazed anyone is still interested.
I hold the major sports organisations in contempt for the way they cravenly folded in March last year. That helped push the government into lockdown.

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mj
mj
4 years ago
Reply to  Ed Phillips

And the media (BBC/Sky/BT) still kow-towing to the BLM sham because they are so woke and there are still no crowds there to reflect what the supporters real feelings about the BLM movement are. Now that would be some good crowd noise (as proved when supporters were temporarily allowed back)

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FerdIII
FerdIII
4 years ago
Reply to  mj

Mostly Blacks now ‘commenting’ on the Fake Sports Channels we noticed. Mixed in with mostly Black adverts. I did not realise that England was mostly a Black country. Jesus, I must have been asleep awhile.

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Christopher
Christopher
4 years ago
Reply to  FerdIII

Get used to it , projected to happen around 2066 but it will more likely be sometime in the 2040’s the indigenous peoples of this island will be an ethnic minority in their ancestral homeland .

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Freddy Boy
Freddy Boy
4 years ago
Reply to  FerdIII

The adverts oh the fucking adverts !! Trapped in a hotel room in deepest Kent last night no internet just the tele ! Every single advert bar the very odd one has an ethnic connotation!! It’s embarrassing for everyone !!

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Andrew K
Andrew K
4 years ago
Reply to  mj

I wonder how far down the hierarchy you have to go down at BBC/Sky/BT before you find a black person.

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vargas99
vargas99
4 years ago
Reply to  Ed Phillips

Indeed, the spectacle of rugby players taking the knee standing 2 metres apart while muttering their national anthems before wrestling with each h other for 80 minutes and donning face nappies in empty stadia has totally ruined the 6 nations for me this year.

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Ed Phillips
Ed Phillips
4 years ago
Reply to  vargas99

Now you know what rugby league fans feel like watching it! 😃 😉

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CivilianNotCovidian
CivilianNotCovidian
4 years ago
Reply to  Ed Phillips

Me too. Gone from big footy fan to not giving a shit. Will not watch players who are coerced into testing in order to play. Will not watch crowd-less games. Can’t go to pub or games – not interested in watching at home. I know of a healthy 45-year-old who ended his life because watching the footy down the pub with his mates was his life blood. Felt he had nothing to live for. THAT is the blood this government had on its hands.

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Annie
Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  Londo Mollari

Where two or three are gathered together in the name of anything worthwhile, there’s your crowd.

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Dermot McClatchey
Dermot McClatchey
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

-as Matthew from HMRC so snappily put it (18:20, as I’m sure you know).

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ElizaP
ElizaP
4 years ago
Reply to  Londo Mollari

…and the poor athletes can then come back from the outdoor sauna and spend a couple of weeks imprisoned in a hotel on awful food/not able to open the windows/etc. You couldnt make it up…

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FerdIII
FerdIII
4 years ago
Reply to  Londo Mollari

You don’t want to miss the Tranny O’s. Men competing as women….Athletes on various undectable drugs and high red blood cell injections ‘competing fairly’….taking knees because only Black Lives Matter – not Asian, not Brown, not Whites the most enslaved race in history. Just Blacks. And you must cheer when the Somalian ‘Englishman’ defeats the ‘Senegalese’ Frenchman in the 10.000 m-biathlon-dance-swim-triple jump competition etc. Fascinating. Cry often.

O’s suck. Never watched them. Don’t care. Flag waving horse shit.

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
4 years ago
Reply to  Londo Mollari

If the atheletes have any cojones they would boycott the Olympics due to this continuing insanity.

I came across a headline the other day where Yohan Blake the current 100m world champion had said that he would rather miss the Olympics than have the vaccine. It would be interesting if others join him and voice out their concerns over the insanity that they will be likely to be subjected to in Tokyo.

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GCarty80
GCarty80
4 years ago
Reply to  Londo Mollari

And the ironic thing is that the Olympics is something prestigious enough that a fair number of people might actually be willing to spend two weeks in quarantine for the chance to watch it.

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Waldorf
Waldorf
4 years ago
Reply to  Londo Mollari

Nearby Korea’s summer weather is unpleasantly hot, as experienced by many Western soldiers in the Korean War. The winter cold can be appalling and spring and autumn tend to be the most pleasant seasons. The Seoul Olympics started on September 17, 1988 and was probably meant to miss the hottest weather.

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
4 years ago

Masks & social distancing EVERY WINTER?

“If we mask and social distance every winter, we will see a dramatic reduction in flu, which usually causes hundreds of thousands of hospitalizations and tens of thousands of deaths,” Offit, who is also a co-inventor of the rotavirus vaccine, told CNN in the Wednesday segment.

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sophie123
sophie123
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Hahahaha. BULLSHIT.

How does he explain the absence of flu in Sweden this year? And its presence in Cambodia?

Last edited 4 years ago by sophie123
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karenovirus
karenovirus
4 years ago

ElizaP

The other day ElizaP asked for further information regarding a missing link on the subject of CCPs Social Credit system.
LS reader Cheezilla provided the link below. Sorry I can’t do hyperlinks from an Android but search

medium.com health passport tyranny

will take you to it. The intro suggests it is a reaction to Covid which it is not having been in multiple trials for over a decade and operating in some Chines cities for years.

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ElizaP
ElizaP
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

thanks

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Cheezilla
Cheezilla
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

The Health Passport — A Green Light for Tyranny?

https://medium.com/@aarondavidsonn/the-health-passport-a-green-light-for-tyranny-545298e108d

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karenovirus
karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Cheezilla

That’s the one thanks Cheezilla, it’s what led me to believe the conspiracy was not just a theory.
Everything that has happened since confirms it.

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GroundhogDayAgain
GroundhogDayAgain
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

There’s a crowdfunded legal challenge in the works, crowdfunding still open.
https://www.crowdjustice.com/case/join-the-legal-challenge-to-st

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
4 years ago

This will keep the fat Nazis happy GPs will prescribe DIETS for more than 700,000 people to combat obesity as report blames being overweight for UK’s high Covid death toll and WHO brands it a ‘wake-up call’ to westerners but be careful what you wish for, authoritarian technocracy has no limits!

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karenovirus
karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Wasn’t there some government nonsense a couple of weeks ago about taking more control over the NHS so they would be forced ‘to make people lose weight’ ?

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

I don’t doubt it.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Just found it in The Guardian, the government want to make the NHS accountable to guess who ?

Health Secretary Matt Hancock.

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Unsurprisingly UK column were reporting government take over of health & social care in May 2020 before Handjob announced it.

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sophie123
sophie123
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

They might start with their own staff.

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jos
jos
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

We’ll all be losing weight in the wonderful future they’re planning for us.

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ElizaP
ElizaP
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

They’d have to start with their own staff one assumes…

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ElizaP
ElizaP
4 years ago
Reply to  ElizaP

Adding that I guess we can expect the old height/weight tables to be brought back then (instead of BMI), 1980’s clothes sizing (rather than modern day vanity sizes that tell you you are a size or two smaller than you actually are) and basically no clothes to buy over size 14 ( 36bust-27-38). I’ll add that the clothes I’ve bought recently have labels saying they are size 14 – I’m actually size 18 at the moment and dieting back down (well trying to – to get back to size 14).

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

First they came for the fatties!
……Then they came for the grog!
…………Next it’ll be your PETS!

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karenovirus
karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Nah, smokers was first.

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Haven’t they done that already?

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rose
rose
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

And the cattle, chickens, pigs and sheep

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karenovirus
karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  rose

Ferguson did for the cattle 20 years ago and chickens are currently under house arrest.

Last edited 4 years ago by karenovirus
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Annie
Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

You can prescribe diets until you’re blue in the face, but the only way to make a fattie follow the diet is to lock them up and dole out their food by order…
Oh bugger.

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Freecumbria
Freecumbria
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Most overweight people are fat because they follow the nutrition guidelines that effectively come from the food industry. It’s an issue of too much sugar, carbohydrates and processed food. We talk about big pharma here but don’t forget about ‘big food’ also in relation to food manufacturers. If the food guidelines were changed to a recommendation that people ate a low carbohydrate high healthy fat, real food diet, and avoided the mechanically extracted vegetable oils (so eat butter rather than margarine for example) then we would see a major change in obesity and population health. If those were the guidelines, then you could make a case that some overweight people were overweight because of their own choices, albeit choices they should be free to make. But bullying people into losing weight through food guidelines that hormonally can’t work fails both in terms of the approach and recommended foods. I attended a training event at a local hospital. Decent people for sure, but sat in a room with nurses and other health workers, the obesity issue with NHS staff was pretty obvious. I also attended the Real Food Rocks event in Ambleside, organised by the Public Health Collaboration charity (of which… Read more »

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Victoria
Victoria
4 years ago
Reply to  Freecumbria

Great post!!! So true

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Waldorf
Waldorf
4 years ago
Reply to  Freecumbria

Fattening food also tends to be cheaper. After he was released from prison, Oscar Wilde, not thin to begin with, put on a noticeable amount of weight – living in poverty constrained his food choices. Economic downturn from the lockdown etc. might itself cause weight gain, plus reduced physical activity.
Convenience foods also tend to cause weight gain.

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Spikedee1
Spikedee1
4 years ago
Reply to  Freecumbria

Yep and the nhs pushing low fat diets that went out of fashion in the 70’s. As a personal trainer who trains every day I would try not to use the term diet with my clients. I would promote lifestyle change and understanding what you are putting in your mouth. The growth of things like myfitnesspal makes tracking food really easy. Sites like IIFYM (if it fits your macros) lets you eat/drink what you like and still maintain control over you macro ratio and your calorie total. The use of flexible dieting has allowed us to have the occasional treat and still lose weight. Better than all that healthy plate and five a day bollocks the government is spouting. But against this I can make from scratch a healthy chicken stir fry with green veg and a small portion of brown rice. Or I can go to KFC and get a fucking BUCKET of chicken with fries for 10 quid. A big mac fries and milk shake is about 60% of a person’s daily calorie intake with absolutely fuck all benefit macro wise. But as I have learned with my biggest sized clients you cannot push the issue. It has… Read more »

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JohnB
JohnB
4 years ago
Reply to  Spikedee1

The growth of things like myfitnesspal makes tracking food really easy.

For those unable to see it progressing from their plate to their mouth, presumably. 🙂

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Hellonearth
Hellonearth
4 years ago
Reply to  Freecumbria

I agree with everything you say, the trouble is though that lots of people are emotional over eaters which is not linked to hunger. I have put weight on over this shit show, like many others. The reason mainly is depression, I have turned to drink and food to try and push down my feelings of despair and anger and unfortunately a piece of fruit doesn’t do the job like a slab of cake!. I am still half the size of lots of young women that I see but I feel really bad carrying this extra weight.

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Tillysmum
Tillysmum
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Well at least we’ve got you Annie, even if Biker is banned.

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Victoria
Victoria
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Sadly the NHS prescribes carbohydrate heavy diets devoid of nutrients – most obese people will never lose weight on such diets as they are insulin resistant.

Doctors are not trained in nutrition, however they are very well trained to prescribe drugs that manage symptoms only.

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Mutineer
Mutineer
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Can we point them out in the street and humiliate them for taking up NHS resources? Shame them and talk about them being selfish?

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karenovirus
karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Mutineer

No, that’s lifestyle shaming.

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Awkward Git
Awkward Git
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Rationing calories was always part of the Agenda 21/2030 plan.

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Nessimmersion
Nessimmersion
4 years ago
Reply to  Awkward Git

If we are that bothered about longevity why no mention of the 2 strongest correlations.

1) People classed as overweight on BMI charts live longer than those classed as Normal weight and Obese ( Big f***** clue here)

2) People classed as over weight have more chance of surviving an encounter with OURNHS and/ or surviving surgery ( Its almost as if animals lay down fat reserves to carry them through lean times but Nah!)

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
4 years ago

First dose of Oxford University’s Covid vaccine causes twice as many side-effects as a single shot of the Pfizer jab, analysis of 700,000 Brits suggests & less we forget, one of those side effects is DEATH!

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Annie
Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Only flesh wounds.

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Monty Python & The Holy Grail: “…It’s just a flesh wound…”

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jonathan Palmer
jonathan Palmer
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Don’t worry the scientists said having side effects is a good thing.

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Basileus
Basileus
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

This article is linked AtL, but it seems to me it is ‘gaslighting’. The adverse reactions are understated and dismissed. See this BMJ article (linked a few days ago) for a good overview:

https://www.bmj.com/content/372/bmj.n393/rr-4

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Andrew K
Andrew K
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

But if death cures you of COVID it will be worth it!

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John
John
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

I have a suspicion that the Pfizer/Moderna side effects are delayed whereas the AstraZeneca side effects are more immediate. I don’t have any scientific reasoning for this suspicion other than a gut feeling based on the different technologies used.
I also have a suspicion, possibly borne out by data, that the Pfizer/Moderna side effects are potentially more catastrophic.
Although my parents in law (late 80’s), daughter in law (39) and future daughter in law(30) have all had the Pfizer version without any issue. I’ve had the AstraZeneca version with little more than discomfort around the injection site which is probably traumatic in nature rather then vaccine related.

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Nessimmersion
Nessimmersion
4 years ago
Reply to  John

As seen on underdogsbiteupwards.wordpress.com: “Attenuated virus’. So it’s another Oxford/AZ one (originally also advertised as a more traditional vaccine). As usual, they omit one detail – when your cells produce the spike protein, your immune system doesn’t just make antibodies against it. It destroys the cell showing the protein. Cells showing virus protein are, to the immune system, infected. White cells don’t know about vaccines. Prion genesis by the spike protein which can cross the blood brain barrier…that’s the next stage of the fun (in just a few years). The crossing of the blood brain barrier has been confirmed in autopsies (virus found everywhere in the body). The prion issue has recently been shown in pre-publication medical research. Before that it was shown in humanised mice. I gather that the spike binds on to the ACE2 receptor so strongly that proteins can be deformed. Deformed proteins => prions (which can reproduce in the brain, forming amyloid plaques/Parkinsons/Alzheimers etc) The true fun being that all the vaccines seem to carry the spike protein (or the recipe to build them). Having the vaccine (any vaccine) is rolling the die just as having the virus is. So we’re re-running the BSE-CJD experiment on… Read more »

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
4 years ago

Woke Gobbledegook
Yes it’s off lockdown topic so don’t read it Miss Panama contest will accept transgender women ‘who have completed all medical procedures’ this one is going to confuse leftist feminists.

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Crystal Decanter
Crystal Decanter
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Yup — still a man tho
sorry and all

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karenovirus
karenovirus
4 years ago

Perhaps this is the reason CCP introduced an innocuous looking programme whose real aim is to cull the elderly (vaccine), letting it play out in the West to see what happens.

This screenshot (2020 census) shows that the productive generations of the Chinese are moving towards retirement. With an average income no higher than in Kazakhstan they will have little pension provision.

As a result of the one child policy, which after 35 years has become the cultural norm the younger generations will be unable to replace or support their elders

This is exacerbated by the cultural norm of preferring an only child to be a boy ( sorry ladies but that’s the way it is) which means 40 million young men will generally be none reproductive.

10 minute vid btw. The vaccine/cull link was mine not youtuber Polymatter

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

I didn’t up vote you simply because that ideology is evil.

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disgruntled246
disgruntled246
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

It’s going to backfire a bit if the vaccine renders the next generation infertile though isn’t it?

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karenovirus
karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  disgruntled246

Not if they only vaccinate the over 60s.

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disgruntled246
disgruntled246
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Is the UK the only country trying to push (literally) the thing into children? I don’t know. Your theory makes sense if that is the case.

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sophie123
sophie123
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Is the evil plan the vaccine, or the virus? Which also culls the elderly

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
4 years ago

You wondered why they didn’t use nightingale hospitals British nursing hopefuls are turned away as NHS recruits migrants, think-tank claims and why NHS capacity is effected by understaffing.
How long has this been going on by liberal left ideologues managing health care?

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karenovirus
karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

This happened to be the newest comment on one of the ATL Daily Mail links.

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Exactly, it’s not like they’ve never had seasonal respiratory disease epidemics before is it. And it’s not lack of money either, if they stopped nonmedical treatments, IVF, gender dysphoria, bloated admin blah blah blah.

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Karin505
Karin505
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Worked in NHS on a one-year contract. Found out that managers are believed to be so incompetent, the Trust hired outside managers to correct projects that had gone completely off the rails, for 1.5-2 x the earnings of NHS managers. The buildings were decrepit, the medical staff hardworking but nothing prepared me for the overall sensation of being part of a dying machine. That was ten years ago.

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Skippy
Skippy
4 years ago

Sunaks caricature is wrong, I was watching yesterday’s speech, he’s got proper Dumbos bolted on the sides of his noggin!

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Crystal Decanter
Crystal Decanter
4 years ago
Reply to  Skippy

Spending some of that furlough money she troughed

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
4 years ago

Hallelujah the vulnerable are saved, the NHS can live, we can go out when ever where ever what ever “Covid vaccines may stop spread ‘almost completely’ with jabs working ‘better than any of us could have imagined’” So then, no need for further lockdown, masks, passports or coercive & threatening behaviour to force poison on people that don’t want it!

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karenovirus
karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

From the comments Daily Mail readers seem to have woken up to the fact that getting vaccinated is not going to lead them out of lockdown and that the extension of furlough to the end of September confirms this.

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Janette
Janette
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Excellent

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ElizaP
ElizaP
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

That was certainly my first reaction to the extension of furlough – ie “Damn – the b&ggers lied again. They’ve only just promised us release from prison at mid-summer and they’re already faffing around looking for excuses to extend that….”. Cue for Mega Variant no. 1,779 (presumably the North Pole variant)….

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JayBee
JayBee
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

This is getting ever more close to resemble the Xhosa Cult story.
Instead of changing course when the forecasted apocalypse hasn’t happened, they are doubling down on their commitment to it and on the sacrifices.

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Spikedee1
Spikedee1
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Yep K, and I wonder what percentage have NO IDEA what they have been injected with. They mostly think its like the flu jab, they think they have had a friendly bit of covid jabbed into them. And with regard to it stopping the spread??? Er how??? But if that’s really the nhs understanding surely you don’t need to jab anyone else?? Just politely turned down my jab. Might even manage to politely refuse the first phone call. After that…….

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Puddleglum
Puddleglum
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Apparently the reason for getting the vaccine is to protect everyone else. It is a wholely altruistic act.

Actually, if people start to suffer from ADE in the months ahead, that might be true.

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A Heretic
A Heretic
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

is it the vaccine or is it just naturally waning ?

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Laurence
Laurence
4 years ago

I received an email from my child’s secondary school yesterday and it states that ‘in line with government guidance’ all students will be required to wear a mask at all times whilst inside the buildings. Now it suggests that the virus poses ‘relatively low risks’ to children. The question is relative to what ? After all, last year the ONS figures for England and Wales showed 16 deaths with COVID in the age group 10-19, out of a population in this age group of around 7.2 million, that’s 1 death per 450,000 people. In my reckoning that’s not a ‘relatively low risk’ unless you compare it to everyday events like being struck dead by lightning, but a risk so close as to be indistinguishable from zero. And this included the height of the pandemic in March/ April 2020, so the risks this year are even lower. It then goes on to state that it creates ‘significant risks’ for teachers. Well according to the (admittedly dated) figures from the Department for Education in 2010, there were 472,000 teachers in the country, of whom 101,500 (21.5%) were aged 50-29 and 13,900 (2.9%) over 60. Now, without wishing to get distracted by facts,… Read more »

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karenovirus
karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Laurence

Suggest you point out that that masks (and testing) are not government ‘requirements’ simply recommended.
As well as your interesting statistics.

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Basileus
Basileus
4 years ago
Reply to  Laurence

Check out Lawyers for Liberty AtL.

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Victoria
Victoria
4 years ago
Reply to  Laurence

PCR claims will write a letter to your child’s school re masks and tests without naming you, also educating the head of the school. https://pcrclaims.co.uk/masks-in-schools

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Spikedee1
Spikedee1
4 years ago
Reply to  Laurence

So wrong. According to government guidelines my ass! According to the fact you are a fucking bunch of scared idiots who know nothing about science or the risk to you. Do you drive in, do you know how many people die in car crashes every year. Are you aware how many people died of flu in the winter of 2019? As was discussed on a previous LS kids would beg their parents to let them wear a mask so they don’t stand out and get picked on. Fuck me, what have they done to our children!!

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Laurence
Laurence
4 years ago
Reply to  Spikedee1

If I read this correctly, you are basically agreeing with me, other than you use 2019 winter illnesses as an example and I have taken 2017/18.

The overriding point here is that there is no perspective in the government’s treatment of a disease that has killed roughly the same number of people as a bad winter.

The number who die in car crashes in the UK is around 1700-2000 per year (pretty good by international standards), but the comparator of being struck by lightning is more pertinent to children’s chances of dying with Covid – estimates are around 1 in a million to 3 in a million pa, which is around the same as a secondary school child’s chances of dying with COVID, and that was at the height of the pandemic.

I would say the government are taking us for fools, but I believe they themselves are products of the educational system that has created this overwhelming incompetence in maths and logic.

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JohnB
JohnB
4 years ago
Reply to  Laurence

Doesn’t it make you proud that these people are educating our children, especially in mathematics !  

The most important part of a child’s education takes place at home, of course. 🙂

(I’d be more worried about their logic and critical thinking skills than their maths. 🙂 ),

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FedupofLies
FedupofLies
4 years ago
Reply to  Laurence

FUCK teachers ! Every single teachers union leader needs to be put on trial and EXECUTED!

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awildgoose
awildgoose
4 years ago

Scumbag Dem mayor of Miami plans on Spring Break Covid crackdown:

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/miami-beach-preps-spring-break-covid-crackdown

Everyone go party in Panama City instead!

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Karin505
Karin505
4 years ago
Reply to  awildgoose

Or go to the Texas coast, which is open!!!! Texas is free!

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Spikedee1
Spikedee1
4 years ago
Reply to  awildgoose

Just go down the road to orlando, I am sure they will accept your money.

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awildgoose
awildgoose
4 years ago
Reply to  awildgoose

Should have been more clear – Panama City Beach is a lovely Spring Break hotspot in the Florida panhandle.

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Ed Phillips
Ed Phillips
4 years ago

Just another day in loony lockdown world yesterday.

– a friend goes down with serious mental illness.

– a colleague won’t travel to a perfectly legal business meeting.

– a person in their 20s is scared to mingle with other people if they aren’t wearing masks.

– people saying Covid came at the wrong time for their business rather than saying lockdown.

How can anyone support any of this? The damage to individuals and civic society is so obviously out of all proportion to the threat from the virus.

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ElizaP
ElizaP
4 years ago
Reply to  Ed Phillips

Oh dear. I know what you mean about getting annoyed about people using the word “covid” every time they should use the word “Lockdown” – and I darn well correct them every time…and always call Lockdown “Bloody Lockdown”.

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flyingjohn
flyingjohn
4 years ago
Reply to  Ed Phillips

As I regularly say to lockdown zealots, the virus doesn’t make laws or imprison people, the government does.

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
4 years ago

Don’t know if this has been posted before.

Headmaster: I refuse to make pupils wear masks in class – UnHerd

David Perks is the founder and headteacher at the East London Science School, built on the principle of offering a strong foundation in science and maths and encouraging critical thinking. When they come back on March 8th, he will not be following government guidance and requiring his pupils to wear facemasks in class. Thanks to David for sharing his experience — we’ll be watching to see what other schools choose to do.

Last edited 4 years ago by Anti_socialist
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JohnB
JohnB
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

David Perks is a hero.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
4 years ago

“Yes it was marvellous, the sun shone every day”

h/t Carl Vernon YouTube

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Waldorf
Waldorf
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

On nudist beaches they sometimes refer to new recruits to naturism as “cottontails” – their exposed nether regions are not yet tanned…

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awildgoose
awildgoose
4 years ago

New levels of historic insanity in the overnight US repo markets exceed the mess seen in September 2019:

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/historic-repo-market-insanity-10y-treasury-trades-4-ahead-monster-short-squeeze

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Bill Grates
Bill Grates
4 years ago
Reply to  awildgoose

Wonder how they are going to cover it up this time ?

Oh look another variant .

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BeBopRockSteady
BeBopRockSteady
4 years ago
Reply to  awildgoose

Thanks for sharing. It’s either inflation or implosion judging by that analysis. Bullish on candles tho

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PatrickF
PatrickF
4 years ago

I work as a gardener, but I’m looking for a career change. Ideally I would like to work in a team, where I can work from home and be on furlough.
I can bend the knee – although, at my age it’s getting harder – am diverse, socially aware, ecologically friendly and enjoy being tested and jabbed.
If required, I am willing to change my pronoun and gender.
Any suggestions?

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  PatrickF

Are you trans though?

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Cecil B
Cecil B
4 years ago
Reply to  PatrickF

Serf

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karenovirus
karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  PatrickF

Try the BBC

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

You’ll need to be a gay black trans refugee to apply.

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danny
danny
4 years ago
Reply to  PatrickF

Dear Patrick. Can you PLEASE stop using the personal pronoun of “I”. Your post is full of “I willing do this” and “I would like that”.
Stop name shaming those that identify not as singular but as a collective.
The correct form should be “we/they/us would like a new job and we/they/us are willing to take the knee”.
Seriously. Where have you been?

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Basileus
Basileus
4 years ago
Reply to  danny

I/me/we/us/them/it disagree (or should it be ‘disagrees’?)

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Basileus
Basileus
4 years ago
Reply to  PatrickF

Become an MP?

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Crystal Decanter
Crystal Decanter
4 years ago
Reply to  PatrickF

Nothing for you whitey

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Dermot McClatchey
Dermot McClatchey
4 years ago
Reply to  PatrickF

Why not apply to be the Prince of Wales? You sound ideally-qualified.

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Annie
Annie
4 years ago

In 1972 the Cambridge University Astronomical Society, the most peaceable and harmless collection of young enthusiasts ever gathered together, who loved nothing better than a night’s comet-hunting by telescope, or a discussion of micro- back-wave radiation over a pint in the pub, invited Sir Patrick to come and address thrm. He refused, daying he wasn’t going to associate with a mob of hairy rebel lefties, or words to that effect. .
He lost my respect from that moment.

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jhfreedom
jhfreedom
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Many of that wartime generation never really ‘got’ socialism, though it was the ordinary soldiers, airmen and sailors who demanded a welfare state and a country worth coming back to.

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OKUK
OKUK
4 years ago
Reply to  jhfreedom

Socialists try and own the concept of welfare but it as pioneered by Bismarck (difficult to get more non-socialist) and in the UK it was the Liberals who set up the framework for a welfare state (and Beveridge was a liberal). So I think of the welfare state as a populist response, that was eventually supported by all parties. Of course the welfare state has morphed from a safety net to a lifestyle support.

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Waldorf
Waldorf
4 years ago
Reply to  OKUK

Bismarck was consciously trying to prevent the growth of the Social Democratic movement by using reforms to make it seem unnecessary. His was a carrot and stick approach as he also banned the movement for a time. As for Beveridge, it was in part an attempt to stop Liberal voters drifting to the growing Labour Party. In the end the old Liberal Party was pulled apart, as shown by a cartoon in which Asquith is pulled in two directions, by “socialism” on the left and “rich radicalism” on the right.

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Crimson Avenger
Crimson Avenger
4 years ago
Reply to  jhfreedom

What they wanted more than anything was a situation where a family that didn’t have sixpence to spare could still see a doctor.

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Waldorf
Waldorf
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

He was pretty far to the right. He was one of the founders of the New Britain Party, although it never got anywhere politically.

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Dermot McClatchey
Dermot McClatchey
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

If anyone’s actually interested in Betelgeuse, this is correct. It’s quite obviously dimmer than it was when I first saw it, some 55 years ago, and is indeed going supernova. This could happen this afternoon, or it might not happen for 500,000 years, but when it does, Betelgeuse will become the second-brightest object, after the Sun, in the sky, and will be visible day and night. I glance up at it and live in hope!

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JohnB
JohnB
4 years ago
Reply to  Dermot McClatchey

Betelgeuse !
Betelgeuse !!
Betelgeuse !!!

It’s quite obviously dimmer than it was when I first saw it, some 55 years ago,

Recent eye-test ? 🙂

Last edited 4 years ago by JohnB
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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
4 years ago

Who Killed Grandma? | Nursing Home Deaths – The Very Opinionated Kate Wand Show

A film based on the research and essay by Jordan Schachtel, “Anatomy of the Nursing Home Death Warrants”.

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Bigade
Bigade
4 years ago

Friedrich, yes the insanity of yesterdas budget was epitomised by that ridiculous increasing of the corporate tax rate. Not instant of course, he’s giving the main corporate entities that can do so, sometime to shift away from Blighty and to more forgiving tax regimes. Rishi is quietly doing his masters bidding and shutting down large sections of the UK economy.

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arfurmo
arfurmo
4 years ago
Reply to  Bigade

Bit of an overeaction. First it doesn’t come in until year beginning April 2023 and it doesn’t apply for cos with profits with £50k or less and on a sliding scale until a co gets to £250k profits . So I doubt if many on here will be hit .

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crimsonpirate
crimsonpirate
4 years ago
Reply to  arfurmo

already whispers that there will be a General Election before then.

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arfurmo
arfurmo
4 years ago
Reply to  crimsonpirate

Why chuck away the current majority? Didn’t go well for May .

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Crimson Avenger
Crimson Avenger
4 years ago
Reply to  arfurmo

Just as well.

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Cecil B
Cecil B
4 years ago

We are told that we may get some limited freedoms back provided we take part in medical experiments

What a disgusting excuse for a human being the Pig Dictator is

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Steve-Devon
Steve-Devon
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

Throughout the day no time for memorandums now. Go ahead! Liberty and independence forever. Davy Crockett
With this virus hoo-haa we have sold our freedoms for a mess of pottage (in a needle!)
You may all go to Hell, and I will go to Texas(in my mind at least).

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Tillysmum
Tillysmum
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

What? That’s bribery.

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
4 years ago

The Vaccine Trials – Promo – The Mirror Project

To watch the full documentary film please go to https://www.mp-22.com​ Featuring Robert F Kennedy Jr, and Prof Dolores Cahill.

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
4 years ago

This will sound ignorant, but I’ve never really wanted to know the cold facts of astrology, I just like to lay under the stars and dream. More often as not I dream of what life was like before lockdown modern man & what life was like living with megafauna.

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Bill Grates
Bill Grates
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

If you want to know about astrology the good folk at the UN can help.
lucist trust etc.

perhaps you meant astronomy?

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  Bill Grates

No I was being facetious. There’s just as much science fiction in both.

Last edited 4 years ago by Anti_socialist
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BertieFox
BertieFox
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Why is that ignorant? Sounds sensible to me.

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  BertieFox

The site is full of analytical types don’t think they appreciate dreamers.

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TheBluePill
TheBluePill
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Astrology is to astronomy what Neil Ferguson is to computer science

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JohnB
JohnB
4 years ago
Reply to  TheBluePill

Wank.

To crib from Newton – to what extent have you studied astrology, TBP ?

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