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by Jonathan Barr
7 March 2021 3:07 AM

Laurence Fox Runs for London Mayor on Anti-Lockdown Platform

Actor-turned-activist Laurence Fox, who shot to national prominence last year when he challenged an audience member on Question Time for describing him as a “white privileged male”, has announced his candidacy for the London Mayoralty. The Sunday Telegraph has the exclusive.

Laurence Fox is to fight Sadiq Khan in the upcoming Mayor of London elections, vowing to “offer a voice to those who are being dominated into silence”.

The actor and leader of the anti-Woke Reclaim Party has revealed to The Telegraph that he is entering the race for City Hall as part of the fight against “extreme political correctness”.

Mr Fox will also fight on a platform for lifting lockdown as soon as he is elected in May rather than waiting until June, when all restrictions are due to be removed.

The news came as new polling showed a significant minority of Londoners are uncomfortable about the London Mayor’s ‘woke’ policies such as his review of statues.

One in four voters in the capital thought Mr Khan was “too woke” – although 27% found him “not woke enough”.

A similar proportion – 25% – were against a review ordered by Mr Khan into whether statues should be removed because of links to slavery or colonialism, against 39% in favour.

Mr Fox hopes that his push to end lockdown sooner will see him win votes from Mr Khan, who launched his re-election campaign last week and has been noticeably keener to go further with lockdowns than the Conservative government.

The survey, conducted by Savanta ComRes among 1,000 people in London in late February for the Reclaim Party, found that 25% of Londoners wanted lockdown lifted by the end of this month. Some 58% wanted it gone by the end of May. Among Londoners aged 18-34, the latter figure rises to 63%.

The poll reveals shifting public concern over the economic impact of lockdown in London. More people than not are concerned about losing their job (43% concerned to 35% unconcerned) and 75% say that they expect small businesses in their area to close permanently as a result of the pandemic.

Mr Fox said: “I am standing for London mayor. With almost all older and vulnerable people having got their jab, I want the lockdown lifted straight away. The Government has said vaccines are working, hospitalisations and deaths are tumbling, but we are still being told we won’t be able to resume normal life until mid-summer at the earliest.”

“Both the main parties are competing in this dreary race to be the last to set the country free. Both Tory and Labour have got this badly wrong. I want London – and indeed the rest of the country – to be allowed to get back to work and play immediately – not by late June.”

Many readers of Lockdown Sceptics have been complaining that they feel politically homeless, given the support for the lockdown by the three main political parties and the nationalist parties in Scotland and Wales. Politics, like nature, abhors a vacuum and it looks as though a leader has emerged.

Worth reading in full.

Variants Schmariants

Image from Intermountain healthcare

One of the four tests underpinning the roadmap out of Lockdown is that new “variants of concern” do not create unforeseen risks. Should we be worried about new variants derailing the reopening? In a widely reported interview with the Times, Professor Sharon Peacock, head of the  COVID-19 Genomics UK scientific body, says no. Here is the report of the interview from Sky.

Professor Sharon Peacock, who is in charge of tracking strains of the virus in Britain, said the country is well equipped to “stay ahead” by adapting vaccines quickly.

The head of the COVID-19 Genomics UK scientific body told the Times she was “very optimistic” that immunisation would allow Britain to ease restrictions as planned. …

Prof Peacock told the Times: “I’m very optimistic that the vaccines will be rolled out, that they’ll be effective, and that we’ll be in a better place by the summer and autumn.’

“I think we’ve got the capabilities to stay ahead by adapting vaccines, and so I’m an optimist.”

New variants are “very unlikely to send us back to square one”, she added.

Nature highlights a new study, still only in preprint, which suggests that the four key variants – UK, South African, Californian and Brazilian – will have a hard time evading T Cells.

Emerging coronavirus variants do not seem to elude important immune-system players called T cells, laboratory studies suggest.

Some recently discovered SARS-CoV-2 variants can partially evade antibodies generated in response to vaccination and previous infection, raising fears that vaccines will be less effective against the variants than against the original strain of the virus. Alessandro Sette and Alba Grifoni at the La Jolla Institute for Immunology in California and their colleagues looked at whether these variants’ mutations might also help them to evade T cells — a component of the immune system that is particularly important for reducing the severity of infectious diseases

The team collected T cells from volunteers who had either recovered from infection with the ancestral SARS-CoV-2 strain or had received an mRNA coronavirus vaccine. The researchers then tested the cells’ ability to recognise protein snippets from four emerging variants, including the B.1.351 variant first identified in South Africa.

Most of the volunteers’ T cells recognised all four variants, thanks to viral protein snippets that were unaffected by the variants’ mutations. The results suggest that T cells could target these variants.

From the discussion section of the paper itself:

The present study addresses a key knowledge gap pertaining to the potential of emergent SARS-CoV-2 variants to evade recognition by human immune responses. We focused on T cell responses elicited by either natural infection or vaccination with the Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna COVID-19 mRNA vaccines. We found negligible effects on both CD4+ or CD8+ T cell responses to all four variants investigated, to include the B.1.1.7, B.1.351, P.1 and CAL.20C variants found in the UK, South Africa, Brazil and California, respectively. …

The data provide some positive news in light of justified concern over the impact of SARS-CoV-2 variants of concern on efforts to control and eliminate the present pandemic. Undoubtedly, several of the variants are associated with increased transmissibility, and also have been associated with decreased susceptibility to neutralising antibodies from infected or vaccinated individuals. In contrast, the data presented here suggests that T cell responses are largely unaffected by the variants.

Home Testing is a Waste of Time

Close up of doctor hands with protective gloves and PPE suit, showing a test device to senior patient. Review of a Rapid Antigen Test for SARS Covid-19.

A Lockdown Sceptics reader has written in to flag up Dr Martin Scurr’s view of home testing in the Daily Mail

In an ideal world, all tests would be 100% accurate – but they aren’t. And when it comes to determining whether you are carrying COVID-19, you need to be able to have faith in the results.

Yet the Innova lateral flow tests, which we are told will be sent out to those with children at school or college, as well as to bus drivers and teachers, are barely fit for purpose. They were recently tried out in a mass-testing exercise in Liverpool, but failed to detect 60% of cases.

The issue lies largely with the way the test is used. I’ve never yet seen one done properly on news bulletins. The swab should be passed backwards along the floor of the nose (i.e., parallel to the soles of the feet) for about the length of a matchstick. This is unpleasant.

The proposal to increase home testing underestimates the potential harms if faulty data is collected; it will only be of value if asymptomatic people who are infectious are detected and isolated, and their contacts traced.

There is a solution to this emerging chaos: abandon the Innova tests and utilise the simple saliva test, which is widely used in Austria. 

Stop Press: There’s a risk the majority of positives detected by the lateral flow tests in schools will be false, according to the Telegraph, reporting on a new paper.

Children may be wrongly kept off school because there is a risk that the “majority” of positive cases detected by the Government’s lateral flow tests “could be false positives”, experts have warned.

Ministers have distributed 57 million of the tests to schools in England as Prime Minister Boris Johnson on Saturday declared the reopening of classrooms a “truly national effort to beat this virus”.

However Sheila Bird, a member of the Royal Statistical Society that produced a new paper on the accuracy of lateral flow tests, said on Saturday every positive quick-result test of a school pupil should be double checked with a PCR test to ensure it was accurate.

A false positive occurs when someone who doesn’t have COVID-19 is wrongly told by the test they have the virus.

The paper, published on Friday, also warns the opposite – that 60 per cent of positive cases may be missed by the tests, meaning people could be inadvertently spreading the virus among peers.

Worth reading in full.

Vaccine Passports Make a Mockery of Consent

There has been a growing movement in favour of vaccine passports and they are currently – under the name of Covid-status certificates – being considered by the Government as a means “of reopening the economy, reducing restrictions on social contact and improving safety”. Today we’re publishing an original piece by a post-doc in the arts at a Russell Group university who argues that vaccine passports violate the principle of free and informed consent, as set out in the Nuremberg Code. Here are the opening paragraphs:

I once read a children’s story about a princess who wanted to write a book. Unfortunately, she couldn’t write, and sales were disappointingly low. The king then announced (I quote from memory):

that the people must have their choice. And so he issued a proclamation which gave all citizens a choice of:

a) Buying a copy of the princess’s book
Or
b) Going to prison for one year

Sales boomed.

Buying a bad book and receiving a vaccination are different things, and prison has not yet been proposed for those who do not receive a COVID-19 vaccine. But that children’s story wittily makes the point that any tyranny could be justified by a certain definition of ‘choice’, and I recalled it when I read Guy de la Bédoyère’s recent article on this site:

‘“I’ll lay my cards on the table. I am going to be vaccinated as soon as I can. That is my choice, and I am glad that it is my choice.

“I accept for example that in order to protect other people I needed to learn to drive and to have a driving licence to prove it. Similarly, I accept the normal passport as a means of proving who I am and protecting me and everyone else from maniacs and others not entitled to come to this country. I also accept that there are consequences of making choices. If I choose not to have a driving licence, then I would have to accept I cannot drive on a public road. And I doubt if anyone would want me to. If I chose freely not to have a passport then I would not be allowed to travel. So, I have no problem with the notion of vaccine choice as another facet of choice with consequences. I grew up at a time when large numbers of children had polio, a disease that gradually dwindled away as a result of the vaccine program.

“That is all about freedom of choice…“

Here I attempt to lay out the basic case against the ‘vaccination certificates’ currently suggested, by various people, for everything from international travel to shopping. These proposals differ qualitatively as well as in degree.

Not a driving licence

Justifying comparisons along the lines of driving licences or hard hats do not resolve the issue, because there is a qualitative difference: this is not a proficiency test or a piece of clothing, it is a medical procedure.

That medical procedures require the explicit and free consent of the individual concerned, is accepted by legal authorities and international bodies.

Worth reading in full.

Stop Press: Israel has already rolled out a vaccine passport scheme which operates through an app. It’s a bit of a disaster, according to a recent report in Hareetz, and might not even do the job for which it was designed:

Cryptographers and information security experts who examined the official mobile app for Israel’s “Green Pass”, a Government-validated certificate for Israelis who have received both doses of the coronavirus vaccine, have found a string of flaws that pose a threat to its functionality. …

Initially the app was supposed to be extremely simple and quick but the final product, experts and users says, is heavy and slow, taking up a large amount of memory. Moreover, the choice to use closed (as opposed to open) source code and the lack of involvement by security and privacy specialists has also caused concern among developers. Security experts and cryptographers who examined the app’s code have discovered several problems that cast doubts on the reliability of its verification that someone has been vaccinated.

Worth reading in full.

Stop Press 2: Vaccine passports are only a temporary solution and should die out in due course, according to André Rogaczewski, Chief Executive of Netcompany, which has received contracts to develop a certification system. Andrew Bud, Chief Executive of iProov, which is also working on certification, is less sure: “If, on the other hand, Covid continues to flare up and become more transmissible, it’s possible that . . . vaccine certificates will be a routine part of daily life.”

Stop Press 3: The Adventure Island theme park in Southend-on-Sea has adopted what might well turn out to be a winning recruitment strategy: An absolute rejection of ‘No Jab, No Job’, as the Southend Echo reports.

James Miller, Operations Director at Adventure Island, told the Echo: “Let there be no misunderstanding. Adventure Island is not against taking the jab nor are we encouraging people not to have it.

“Both my Dad (Philip Miller) and my cousin Marc, Managing Director, have taken the vaccine, so our position has nothing to do with the jab itself.

“It is the bullying, peer pressure, invasion of privacy, and the fact that it is not our right to tell people what to do with their bodies, that we cannot condone as a company.”

Watch James Miller’s interview with Mike Graham on talkRADIO here.

Protest in Stockholm

Sweden has been famously light on lockdown restrictions, but the Government has gradually been tightening them. The rules remain rather lenient by comparison with the UK, but they were tight enough to bring protesters out on the streets of Stockholm yesterday as MailOnline reports.

Hundreds of anti-lockdown protesters clashed with police in Stockholm on Saturday as they took to the streets in defiance of  Sweden’s coronavirus ban on gatherings.

Swedish police dispersed opponents of coronavirus measures that came after the government – which initially took a hands-off approach to COVID-19 rules – tightened restrictions further as cases continue to rise.

The tighter measures come after Sweden this week reported a 10% rise in the number of COVID-19 cases for a third week in a row, increasing fears that the country is in its third wave of the virus. 

Police blocked a bridge in the centre of the city and said on their website they were in dialogue with organisers to persuade demonstrators to disperse. TV images showed police shoving some protesters, while the police said one officer had been slightly injured and taken to hospital.

“Police have taken the decision to break up the non-authorised gathering which is ongoing,” Stockholm police said on their website on Saturday.

Earlier this week, protest organiser Filip Sjöström told local media that he was expecting around 2,000 people to join the demonstration, which had been announced on Facebook.

TV images showed hundreds of people had gathered. According to Swedish daily Dagens Nyheter, demonstrators had travelled from several parts of Sweden, which has a ban on public gatherings of more than eight people.

Worth reading in full.

Ontario Doctor Cautioned for lockdown scepticism

Dr Kulvinder Kaur Gill. Image from Canindia.com

Last week, Ontario Pediatrician Dr Kulvinder Kaur Gill was cautioned by the College of Physicians and Surgeons for her “inappropriate”, “irresponsible” and “unprofessional” tweets last year about COVID-19. Global News has the details.

An Ontario doctor has been cautioned by the College of Physicians and Surgeons for social media posts about COVID-19 that were deemed inaccurate and irresponsible.

Dr. Kulvinder Gill was issued three cautions for “inappropriate” and “unprofessional” statements she posted on Twitter that claimed neither lockdowns nor vaccines were necessary.

The Brampton doctor had claimed there was “absolutely no medical or scientific reason for this prolonged, harmful and illogical lockdown”, the College wrote in one of the decisions.

She had also written that “we don’t need a vaccine”, and shared a Tweet claiming that contact tracing, testing and isolation were “ineffective, naïve & counter-productive against COVID-19″.

The College’s complaints committee cautioned Gill for all three posts, citing a “lack of professionalism and failure to exercise caution in her posts on social media, which is irresponsible behaviour for a member of the profession and presents a possible risk to public health”.

Worth reading in full.

The regulator’s decision makes for interesting reading. Of course there is evidence that lockdowns work, it argued, citing China and South Korea, even though South Korea didn’t impose a nationwide lockdown.

The complaint referred to a tweet the Respondent posted that states: “There is absolutely no medical or scientific reason for this prolonged, harmful and illogical lockdown.” The Committee found this tweet inappropriate and unprofessional for the following reasons:

The Committee accepts that there is a range of views about the effectiveness of using provincial lockdown as a means of controlling the spread of COVID-19. The Committee has no interest in shutting down free speech or in preventing physicians from expressing criticism of public health policy. It is valid to point out that there are drawbacks to lockdown. It is also valid to question whether the benefits outweigh the negative aspects or whether the measure is working as expected in Ontario

The Respondent did not raise these points in her tweet, however. She stated unequivocally and without providing any evidence that there is no medical or scientific reason for the lockdown. Her statement does not align with the information coming from public health, and moreover, it is not accurate. The lockdowns in China and South Korea provide evidence that lockdowns can and did work in reducing the spread of COVID-19. For the Respondent to state otherwise is misinformed and misleading and furthermore an irresponsible statement to make on social media during a pandemic.

There’s nothing wrong with Dr Gill’s colleagues disagreeing with her on lockdowns, even if some of them are hopelessly misinformed about virus containment measures in South Korea. But the issue extends beyond that, as Professor Martin Kulldorff points out.

Lacking arguments against the enormous collateral health damage from ineffective lockdowns and contact tracing, and scared of scientific debate, @cpso_ca / @dwrighttoronto is instead bullying its members into silence. Please RT for #AcademicFreedom. https://t.co/HhZ1Zf4mPW

— Martin Kulldorff (@MartinKulldorff) March 5, 2021

Gill, the co-founder of the advocacy group Concerned Ontario Doctors, is expected to appeal the decision. Her twitter feed remains on point.

Most citizens of the developed world now seem to be where some of have been since May 2020. It has been lonely. Welcome to Team Humanity!

— Kulvinder Kaur MD (@dockaurG) March 3, 2021

America’s National Restaurant Association Condemns CDC Report

As day follows night, so the announcement that some states – Texas, Mississippi, Iowa, Montana and North Dakota – are dropping their mask mandates and reopening restaurants was followed by an academic study from the CDC demonstrating how useful masks are in suppressing the spread of COVID-19 and singling out restaurants as a site of infection. Here’s NBC News with the details:

A new national study adds strong evidence that mask mandates can slow the spread of the coronavirus, and that allowing dining at restaurants can increase cases and deaths.

The Centres for Disease Control and Prevention released the study Friday.

“All of this is very consistent,” CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky said during a White House briefing on Friday. “You have decreases in cases and deaths when you wear masks, and you have increases in cases and deaths when you have in-person restaurant dining.”

The study was released just as some states are rescinding mask mandates and restaurant limits. Earlier this week, Texas became the biggest state to lift its mask rule, joining a movement by many governors to loosen COVID-19 restrictions despite pleas from health officials.

“It’s a solid piece of work that makes the case quite strongly that in-person dining is one of the more important things that needs to be handled if you’re going to control the pandemic,” said William Hanage, a Harvard University expert on disease dynamics who was not involved in the study.

The new research builds on smaller CDC studies, including one that found that people in ten states who became infected in July were more likely to have dined at a restaurant and another that found mask mandates in ten states were associated with reductions in hospitalisations.

The CDC researchers looked at US counties placed under state-issued mask mandates and at counties that allowed restaurant dining – both indoors and at tables outside. The study looked at data from March through December of last year.

Worth reading in full.

The National Restaurant Association responded Robustly.

As vaccination rates continue to rise and indoor dining capacity in many states is increasing, it is critical that diners have reliable information about the safety of restaurant dining. The report issued by the Centres for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) today is more an ill-informed attack on the industry hardest-hit by the pandemic than a reliable piece of scientific research.

In its own publication, the CDC notes numerous flaws in the report. First, although research models did control for mask mandates, restaurant and bar closures, stay-at-home orders, and gathering bans, the models did not control for other policies that might affect case and death rates, including other types of business closures, physical distancing recommendations, policies issued by localities, and variances granted by states to certain counties (some variances were not made publicly available).

As a result, the observed phenomena could be attributable to myriad variables.

Furthermore, correlation does not equal causation. For example, if a positive correlation between ice cream sales and shark attacks is found, that would not mean that ice cream causes shark attacks. For restaurants, customer behaviour outside the venue remains the major contributing factor in COVID-19 transmission.

Second, the CDC did not measure compliance with and enforcement of safe operating policies. We still do not find evidence of a systemic spread of the coronavirus coming from restaurants who are effectively following our COVID-19 Operating Guidance, encouraging guests and employees to wear masks, social distance, and practice good hand hygiene. In effect, this lack of a direct correlation should be evidence that, when restaurants apply effective mitigation efforts, the transmission risk is low when dining outside or inside.

Finally, the analysis did not differentiate between indoor and outdoor dining, adequacy of ventilation, or adherence to physical distancing and occupancy requirements.

Stop Press: In a reminder that people don’t actually need a Government order to wear masks, CBS news reports that most retailers will continue to require them on their premises

Stop Press 2: The Daily Mail reports that the people of Mississippi have hit the streets mask free after the mandate was lifted on March 3rd.

Stop Press 3: Alabama has bucked the trend, extending the mandate by a month

Changes Coming to Lockdown Sceptics

From tomorrow, you’ll see some changes at Lockdown Sceptics. Email subscribers will still receive a daily update that looks similar to the one they get at the moment, but visitors to the website will see a rolling news blog, constantly updated throughout the day, rather than a static page. The option to view it in its present form will still be available – you’ll just have to click on a button at the top that says “Today’s Update” – but the home page will be different.

Our reasons for doing this are partly to make it easier to comment on and share individual stories, but also so we don’t have to take turns to stay up until dawn every day to prepare the daily update. The update subscribers will receive, and which will still be viewable on the site, will consist of a newly refreshed version of everything from the Round-Up on downwards and all the stories that have been posted to the rolling news blog in the previous 24 hours.

We still plan to bring you plenty of original articles, like today’s one about vaccine passports, as well as analysis by Toby and Will Jones, readers’ comments, poems, and so on.

If all restrictions – or nearly all – are lifted on June 21st, we will switch from a daily to a weekly update, but continue to post stories to the rolling news blog every day. And if, God forbid, the lockdown is reimposed in the Autumn, we’ll restore the daily updates.

Round-up

  • “COVID-19: Is school mask and testing policy flawed?” – The BBC’s Nick Triggle explains why school testing could do more harm than good, and how the mask policy might have opened a can of worms
  • “COVID-19: Public urged to join slow handclap protest as nursing unions being strike discussions over pay row” – Sky News reports that people are once again being called to their doorsteps to clap for carers, but slowly this time in protest at their meagre pay rise. Perhaps the Treasury could find them an extra few quid by cutting the last few months of furlough
  • “Car insurance might be void if you have an accident caused by the side effects of a coronavirus vaccine, lawyers warn” – The Telegraph reports a warning in respect of a potential consequence of vaccine side effects
  • “Tony Blair dismissed pandemic fears as ‘panpanics’ and did ‘minimum’ to prepare for flu crisis” – The Telegraph reports on the great man’s scepticism while he was in office
  • “Worship of Science” – Yanoson Rosenblum reflects on the consequences of the modern-day worship of science for Mishpacha. “The current pandemic” he writes, “is likely the result of science gone mad”
  • “Legacy of the Lockdown and Experts?” – In the latest episode or Irreverend, the Revs Tom, Jamie and Daniel consider whether lockdowns will be the end of experts
  • “First great apes at US zoo receive COVID-19 vaccine made for animals” – National Geographic reports that the vaccine rollout has now been extended to animals
  • “Vindication for Ron DeSantis” – The media vilified Florida Governer Ron DeSantis for rejecting lockdowns, says Allysia Finley in the Wall Street Journal, but the state’s Covid numbers are better than California’s or New York’s and its economy is thriving
  • “Fact-Checking Facebook’s Fact Checkers” – Good editorial in the Wall Street Journal criticising Facebook’s ‘fact-check’ its recent op-ed on how the US is nearing herd immunity
  • “The Contradictions of Vaccine Politics” – Australian Paul Collits examines the internal contradictions of the Covidocracy for the Freedoms Project
  • “Windsor court ruling puts COVID-19 ‘hoax’ belief at centre of custody fight” – Views on Covid have become a custody issue in Ontario, Canada, according to CBC
  • “Sweden is a success story and the rest of the world should emulate it” – Video by arch-sceptic Hector Drummond on the 2020 all-cause death rate for Sweden which was only slightly elevated by comparison with previous years
  • “The Fantastic Mr. Fox” – Dr. Jay Bhattacharya returns to the Ricochet podcast with the actor Lawrence Fox to talk about plans for reopening
  • “Our freedoms will not be ended by a jackboot, the algorithms are watching and will just switch us off” – Former MSP Brian Monteith recounts his experience of being silenced by Facebook in the Mail on Sunday and pays tribute to the Free Speech Union for intervening successfully on his behalf
  • “David Perks, the Principal who refused to mask his pupils, is subjected to ‘bully boy tactics’” – The department of education is threatening to withdraw support for his school’s 6th form lease – so it could close – unless he U-turns

EXCLUSIVE: David Perks, the Principal who refused to mask his pupils, is subjected to "bully boy tactics" by @educationgovuk – threatening to withdraw support for his school's 6th Form lease – so it could close – unless he U-turns on masks #NoMasksInClass https://t.co/c1wYFsiMwc

— Unlocked 🔑 🗽 🌸 (@Unlocked_UK_) March 5, 2021

Theme Tunes Suggested by Readers

Sixteen today: “God Put A Smile Upon Your Face” by Coldplay, “Kernkraft 400“, the song from Shaun of the Dead by Zombie Nation, “The Gonk” by Herbert Chappell, “Lockdown” by Ellis Dee, “The World Needs Guts” by Alice Cooper, “Back To Normal” by Anthony B, “Land of Confusion” by Genesis, “Most People I Know” by Cosmic Psychos, “No Happy Endings” by Roki Taylor, “Get Up, Get Into It , Get Involved” by James Brown, “Escape” by Dreadzone, “Rules and Regulations” by Rufus Wainwright, “Fear Is A Man’s Best Friend” by John Cale, “Daily Life” by Disorder, “Fear and Confusion” by Subhumans and “The Number of the Beast” by Iron Maiden

Love in the Time of Covid

Matthew Rhys and Keri Russell as Soviet undercover agents in The Americans

We have created some Lockdown Sceptics Forums, including a dating forum called “Love in a Covid Climate” that has attracted a bit of attention. We have a team of moderators in place to remove spam and deal with the trolls, but sometimes it takes a little while so please bear with us. You have to register to use the Forums as well as post comments below the line, but that should just be a one-time thing. Any problems, email Lockdown Sceptics here.

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Woke Gobbledegook

We’ve decided to create a permanent slot down here for woke gobbledegook. Today, we bring you British business, which, according to Michael O’Dwyer in the Telegraph, has more diversity and inclusion executives than anywhere else in the world:

The UK is becoming the diversity and inclusion capital of the business world. British organisations employ twice as many inclusion professionals per capita as any other country in the world, according to LinkedIn. 

This week, the City lost one of its most powerful diversity champions. Dimple Agarwal’s role was not a tick-box exercise to make Deloitte’s accountants and consultants feel a sense of belonging at the firm. 

She was deputy chief executive, likely to have been earning a pay package well in excess of the average £731,000 handed to the firm’s partners last year. 

Agarwal’s initiatives included a Black Action Plan in response to the Black Lives Matter movement and increasing paid leave for “non-birthing parents” as part of “our commitment to inclusion, where we are creating an environment of respect, dignity and belonging for all”.

She championed respect but staff complained that she was making their working lives a misery. An investigation was launched into claims Agarwal bullied subordinates, was aggressive on calls and emails during the pandemic and scheduled meetings with blatant disregard for work-life balance despite publicly championing employee wellbeing. …

Diversity officers started out as a compliance requirement to reduce the risk of lawsuits and breaching regulations. 

Now they have a more strategic remit to create “an inclusive organisation culture where staff can feel included and be able to express themselves”, says Abdul Wahab, policy adviser for inclusion and diversity at the Chartered Institute of Personnel and Development. 

Issues crossing their desks will include everything from diversity in recruitment, retention of talented women and staff from ethnic minorities, protecting employee mental and physical wellbeing, creating a welcoming environment for LGBTQ workers and ensuring minorities such as people with disabilities get equal opportunities. 

Worth reading in full.

Stop Press: Matthew Lynn, also in the Telegraph, has more to say about Dimple Agarwal’s departure from Deloitte. “By embracing woke agenda,” he writes, “companies are empowering staff to simply remove any senior manager they do not like.”

Perhaps Agarwal was a horrible person to work for, and perhaps she wasn’t. Even so, the woke workplace is increasingly devouring itself.

By embracing a politically correct agenda, firms are creating anarchy where there should be leadership. They are adopting a box-ticking culture, where form is always more important than substance.

And perhaps most importantly of all, after a year of lockdown, many workplaces are going a little haywire, with bosses lashing out, and staff turning mutinous.

In truth, everyone needs to get back to checking accounts, fixing tax returns, and re-configuring supply chains, or whatever it is the business they work for actually does – and agree that wokery and business are a bad combination.  

Worth reading in full.

Stop Press 2: Father of Capitalism Adam Smith appears to be at risk of finding himself on the wrong side of a woke inquiry. According to MailOnline, his grave and Royal Mile memorial have been listed among the sites to be investigated by the Scottish Councils review of Edinburgh’s links to slavery and colonialism.

Stop Press 3: The Babylon Bee speculates about what a woke Dr Seuss book might look like.

In New Dr. Seuss Book, Cat In The Hat Gives Kids Puberty Blockers While Their Mother Isn’t Homehttps://t.co/GrTCcoiSoK

— The Babylon Bee (@TheBabylonBee) March 5, 2021

“Mask Exempt” Lanyards

We’ve created a one-stop shop down here for people who want to obtain a “Mask Exempt” lanyard/card – because wearing a mask causes them “severe distress”, for instance. You can print out and laminate a fairly standard one for free here and the Government has instructions on how to download an official “Mask Exempt” notice to put on your phone here. And if you feel obliged to wear a mask but want to signal your disapproval of having to do so, you can get a “sexy world” mask with the Swedish flag on it here.

A reader has started a website that contains some useful guidance about how you can claim legal exemption. Another reader has created an Android app which displays “I am exempt from wearing a face mask” on your phone. Only 99p.

If you’re a shop owner and you want to let your customers know you will not be insisting on face masks or asking them what their reasons for exemption are, you can download a friendly sign to stick in your window here.

And here’s an excellent piece about the ineffectiveness of masks by a Roger W. Koops, who has a doctorate in organic chemistry. See also the Swiss Doctor’s thorough review of the scientific evidence here and Prof Carl Heneghan and Dr Tom Jefferson’s Spectator article about the Danish mask study here.

The Great Barrington Declaration

Professor Martin Kulldorff, Professor Sunetra Gupta and Professor Jay Bhattacharya

The Great Barrington Declaration, a petition started by Professor Martin Kulldorff, Professor Sunetra Gupta and Professor Jay Bhattacharya calling for a strategy of “Focused Protection” (protect the elderly and the vulnerable and let everyone else get on with life), was launched in October and the lockdown zealots have been doing their best to discredit it ever since. If you googled it a week after launch, the top hits were three smear pieces from the Guardian, including: “Herd immunity letter signed by fake experts including ‘Dr Johnny Bananas’.” (Freddie Sayers at UnHerd warned us about this the day before it appeared.) On the bright side, Google UK has stopped shadow banning it, so the actual Declaration now tops the search results – and Toby’s Spectator piece about the attempt to suppress it is among the top hits – although discussion of it has been censored by Reddit. In February, Facebook deleted the GBD’s page because it “goes against our community standards”. The reason the zealots hate it, of course, is that it gives the lie to their claim that “the science” only supports their strategy. These three scientists are every bit as eminent – more eminent – than the pro-lockdown fanatics so expect no let up in the attacks. (Wikipedia has also done a smear job.)

You can find it here. Please sign it. Now over three quarters of a million signatures.

Update: The authors of the GBD have expanded the FAQs to deal with some of the arguments and smears that have been made against their proposal. Worth reading in full.

Update 2: Many of the signatories of the Great Barrington Declaration are involved with new UK anti-lockdown campaign Recovery. Find out more and join here.

Update 3: You can watch Sunetra Gupta set out the case for “Focused Protection” here and Jay Bhattacharya make it here.

Update 4: The three GBD authors plus Prof Carl Heneghan of CEBM have launched a new website collateralglobal.org, “a global repository for research into the collateral effects of the COVID-19 lockdown measures”. Follow Collateral Global on Twitter here. Sign up to the newsletter here.

Judicial Reviews Against the Government

There are now so many legal cases being brought against the Government and its ministers we thought we’d include them all in one place down here.

The Simon Dolan case has now reached the end of the road. The current lead case is the Robin Tilbrook case which challenges whether the Lockdown Regulations are constitutional, although that case, too, has been refused permission to proceed. There’s still one more thing that can be tried. You can read about that and contribute here.

The GoodLawProject and three MPs – Debbie Abrahams, Caroline Lucas and Layla Moran – brought a Judicial Review against Matt Hancock for failing to publish details of lucrative contracts awarded by his department and it was upheld. The Court ruled Hancock had acted unlawfully.

Then there’s John’s Campaign which is focused specifically on care homes. Find out more about that here.

There’s the GoodLawProject and Runnymede Trust’s Judicial Review of the Government’s award of lucrative PPE contracts to various private companies. You can find out more about that here and contribute to the crowdfunder here.

Scottish Church leaders from a range of Christian denominations have launched legal action, supported by the Christian Legal Centre against the Scottish Government’s attempt to close churches in Scotland  for the first time since the the Stuart kings in the 17th century. The church leaders emphasised it is a disproportionate step, and one which has serious implications for freedom of religion.”  Further information available here.

There’s the class action lawsuit being brought by Dr Reiner Fuellmich and his team in various countries against “the manufacturers and sellers of the defective product, PCR tests”. Dr Fuellmich explains the lawsuit in this video. Dr Fuellmich has also served cease and desist papers on Professor Christian Drosten, co-author of the Corman-Drosten paper which was the first and WHO-recommended PCR protocol for detection of SARS-CoV-2. That paper, which was pivotal to the roll out of mass PCR testing, was submitted to the journal Eurosurveillance on January 21st and accepted following peer review on January 22nd. The paper has been critically reviewed here by Pieter Borger and colleagues, who also submitted a retraction request, which was rejected in February.

And last but not least there was the Free Speech Union‘s challenge to Ofcom over its ‘coronavirus guidance’. A High Court judge refused permission for the FSU’s judicial review on December 9th and the FSU has decided not to appeal the decision because Ofcom has conceded most of the points it was making. Check here for details.

Stop Press: Following the recent court ruling that the Government acted unlawfully when it failed to publish all its Covid contracts, Boris reassured MPs that all Covid related contracts would be published. But in saying that, he misled Parliament, according to an update from the Good Law Project.

Samaritans

If you are struggling to cope, please call Samaritans for free on 116 123 (UK and ROI), email jo@samaritans.org or visit the Samaritans website to find details of your nearest branch. Samaritans is available round the clock, every single day of the year, providing a safe place for anyone struggling to cope, whoever they are, however they feel, whatever life has done to them.

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Bungle
Bungle
4 years ago

Wow, bit early this.

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Judy Watson
Judy Watson
4 years ago
Reply to  Bungle

Indeed it is – good to know that Toby et al will be getting a good nights kip.

PS morning/afternoon/evening all.

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Carrie Symonds
Carrie Symonds
4 years ago
Reply to  Bungle

Nope. I was dreaming about the visitation of a plague of boils for Johnson and Hancock.

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Annie
Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  Carrie Symonds

Sweet dreams!
Do anal swabs give you boils?

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Spikedee1
Spikedee1
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Not if you use the big ones they used in the Gladiators show. 🧜‍♂️ Especially for handjob and the fat pig dictator

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jos
jos
4 years ago

Every morning around this time I wake in confusion and disbelief and wish I could just toe the line and accept the world as it is without raging against it but mostly I just wish I knew what the hell was going on …

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Annie
Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  jos

Keep raging against the dying of the Light.

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ElizaP
ElizaP
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

“Better to light a candle…..”

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katz
katz
4 years ago
Reply to  jos

Yes, I wake up under a cloud of anxiety every day (when I’ve managed to sleep) and it takes a moment to remember that the nightmare is real.

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Annie
Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  jos

I recommend a hot drink, in bed, and a hot-water bottle on the tummy.Not a cure, but it alleviates the symptoms.

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Jinks
Jinks
4 years ago
Reply to  jos

A good cry, followed by prayer, or prayer followed by a good cry, followed by a prayer. I find, even in my lowest moments, a frank conversation with the Creator/s, helps to lighten the load. Doesn’t banish it completely, but that’s a good thing. It keeps us in touch with current reality.

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ElizaP
ElizaP
4 years ago
Reply to  Jinks

I’m now used to the fact that I probably land up in tears on pretty much a daily basis at some point or other – usually first thing in the morning, as I think “Oh…another happy day (not!) on Planet Earth…”. I have a journal to write down what I really think – the totally uncensored version and fortunately my best friend and her husband are pretty much “on side” and so I know I have someone ITRW (darn it – hundreds of miles away from me…but at least they’re at the end of a telephone).

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Jinks
Jinks
4 years ago
Reply to  ElizaP

Every day, remind yourself, how proud you are of yourself. You’re seeing through this shitshow, when millions either refuse to do so or are too stupid to realise
Either way, those people are evil!, We should always remember, it is people like us who will persevere till the very end, because we care more about the outcome, than those who, in the truest terms, are nothing, and have nothing they’d be willing to live or die for, whereas we have everything!

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Bungle
Bungle
4 years ago
Reply to  Jinks

Quite how saying ‘prego’, please, to a figment of the imagination keeps one in tough with reality, only Darwin knows!

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Dobba
Dobba
4 years ago

While the majority of the middle class get to sit on their arses from home, getting paid 80% or still have a job in full pay working from home in their pyjamas and the media get paid on their government advertising money pushing out polls that say people want lockdown and vaccine passports – nothing will change.

It needs a rise up of people like they do in France and Italy and Holland – whereby the people don’t just pull out their phones and film their fellow men and women getting arrested – en masse they pull them from the hands of the police and show them who they serve. People have to open their businesses no matter what and continue with life and fuck the cases and fudged numbers for deaths peddled in the media day in day out.

You have a choice come March, April May and June in each ‘reopening’ of business. Stay open, keep open, do not comply with it any more.

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katz
katz
4 years ago
Reply to  Dobba

I agree Dobba, but do you have a business? Are you going to open your business and keep it open and wait for the police to arrive and the local rag to write about your ‘madness’ and your fear-crazed customers to talk about you?

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PastImperfect
PastImperfect
4 years ago
Reply to  katz

I suppose anyone opening would do well to have a number of friendly customers present, or on call, to ensure that they are not overwhelmed by hostile zombies.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  PastImperfect

Which is why Police turned up in intimidating numbers when closing ‘illegal gyms’ during tiers for fears.

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Dobba
Dobba
4 years ago
Reply to  katz

No, I work for a private business and I’ve said the same to them. I understand it’s easy for me to say stay open and keep open when I’m not running my own business – but the alternative is to say carry on allowing the government to destroy your livelihoods and keep closing on their command. Should that be my narrative?

If business owners know that we will support them and shop with them and they all just stay open the police can’t shut every one down.

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mikewaite
mikewaite
4 years ago
Reply to  Dobba

To my mind the situation about individual businesses opening and then being intimidated and fined by the Police is similar to that facing workers in the late 19th Cent who tried to protest poor wages and working conditions .
As individuals they could easily be picked on and dismissed, or threatened with criminal arrest by employers and the answer was the Union movement.
If, in a town or suburb , the small businesses that wanted to open formed a union or cooperative that agreed to open together, and, very importantly , clubbed together to raise a fund that would cover any fines (although those seem to be thrown out when it comes to the courts ) then the local police force would be overwhelmed A union, cooperative, friendly society, call it whay you will, but a clearly defined and funded cooperative is the way to destroy the thuggery of Boris, Patel and Sage.

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PastImperfect
PastImperfect
4 years ago
Reply to  mikewaite

Freedom Alliance?

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Dobba
Dobba
4 years ago
Reply to  mikewaite

I like that idea. 🙂

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DanClarke
DanClarke
4 years ago
Reply to  mikewaite

Are the fines being processed at all, I heard they weren’t

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Jinks
Jinks
4 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

null and void after 6 months of non-payment if no court summons is sent.

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FedupofLies
FedupofLies
4 years ago
Reply to  mikewaite

Thatcher DIDN’T destory the Unions, what happened is the traditional trade unions with WORKING MEN who did ACTUAL jobs got destroyed while public sector SCUMions have flourished.

Every single teacher’s union member after a trial needs to be legally shot.

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RickH
RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  FedupofLies

Did it come naturally, or did you have to practice being a moron?

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eastender53
eastender53
4 years ago
Reply to  FedupofLies

Don’t agree with shooting the members but the leader who is the highest paid union leader in the country………

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Ianric
Ianric
4 years ago
Reply to  mikewaite

I agree with what mikewaite has said about safety in numbers. If I was running a business, I would be in a difficult situation. I would be worried about loosing my livilihood but I would face prosecution if I opened and harrassment from the authorities. In addition, if I ran a business where a licence is needed to operate, I would be worried about loosing my licence. If I did open my business, would I get many customers? Would many people be willing to visit a business operating illegally and some customers may not wish to come as they may think a business owner is being irresponsible. Have business who opened against regulations received many customers. If other businesses opened, I woud be more willing to open. I feel fighting against business closures is vital. Businesses have gone though almost a year of being forced to close, allowed to re-open but often operate under restrictions and then close which is sustainable. Up until now it is small independant businesses which have opened. I am curious what would happen if a big chain opened. Would the authorites have the guts to take them on. Could businesses coming together to campaign against… Read more »

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Dobba
Dobba
4 years ago
Reply to  Ianric

The alternative is to stay closed and eventually your business and your livelihood go under. What have you got to lose? Nothing and everything. Take your pick.

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Edward
Edward
4 years ago
Reply to  mikewaite

As I wrote to the Estorick Gallery of Italian Art when declining to renew my membership, they and similar organisations need to combine forces to resist the government’s oppressive policies. Otherwise they may as well close permanently and sell off the contents to private collectors.

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
4 years ago
Reply to  Edward

The Met in New York have in their last resort to sell off some of their collections to stave off bankruptcy.

I did ask the British Museum when we had a chat about my letter what would they do to stave off bankruptcy or if they they became bankrupt. There was a long silence and the guy I was talking to stammered that they never thought about that.

Jesus wept.

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RichardJames
RichardJames
4 years ago
Reply to  mikewaite

“…destroy the thuggery of Boris, Patel and Sage” and the police, the biggest thugs of all.

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katz
katz
4 years ago
Reply to  Dobba

I have a business. I haven’t earned a penny since last March and received no govt handouts. The problem is organisation and trust, contacting other like-minded business owners and being confident that everyone will defy the regulations at the same time. It’s really not that easy. How would you suggest rallying business owners to this cause and organising it all?

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Dobba
Dobba
4 years ago
Reply to  katz

No – I completely understand it’s difficult and I wouldn’t want to be in your situation. I think it’s treasonous what has been done to businesses and I don’t have the cure to what would be incredibly hard to pull together. The Great Reopening that never happened was tantamount to that – I went hunting for businesses in Manchester on the day to support them – and nothing. I have the answer but as you say, it’s really not that easy when the brainwashed masses continue to get their news from the governments mouthpiece.

All I can say is that this time, no matter what – stay open and keep open. Or just think fuck it and open now – you have every right to earn a living and make sure the police know that if they come knocking at your door.

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FedupofLies
FedupofLies
4 years ago
Reply to  Dobba

Small businesses DESERVE to lose a few.

And they will not but a LOT

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sam s.j.
sam s.j.
4 years ago
Reply to  katz

thats what i w as thinking it s the finding like minded people in person that i havent been able to manage and im sure they a re out there

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FedupofLies
FedupofLies
4 years ago
Reply to  katz

Well, they won’t have businesses. They deserve to fail and will.

I will piss myself with laughter at all the pubs going out of business.
All the crappy non-english pubs with wanker menues.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  katz

During lockdown 1. a garden centre/nursery stayed open on the grounds that Tesco up the road were selling pot plants and fertilizers so why couldn’t they ?

This achieved some national attention after the local authority tried and failed to impose a closure notice and Police threatened to prosecute customers for none essential travel and shopping.

That business flourished throughout lockdown and continues to do so under the current lockdown in which garden centres are specifically permitted to operate.

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

There was a car wash owner who said the same after the police threatened to close his business. He made the point that Asda down the road still had their car wash area open and who is to say he’s not essential given his clients include delivery drivers, those who work in construction and even the police!

I don’t know what happend to that car wash owner but I won’t be surprised if the police backed off.

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Dobba
Dobba
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

It’s the same with bookshops (and you could extrapolate this many areas of business) – WHSmiths can open, a small bookshop can’t. Some have, with that valid argument and it should be the same for all . . . “if they can, why can’t I, so I am . . . now fuck off!”

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OKUK
OKUK
4 years ago
Reply to  Dobba

Lots of bookshops sell greetings cards, stamps, board games, magazines and CDs….I’m sure they could arrange to get some newspapers in….so what’s the difference from WH Smith? Many shop owners were too easily cowed into submission.

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FedupofLies
FedupofLies
4 years ago
Reply to  Dobba

LOL it’s too late now!

This was seven months ago stuff!

Anyway, it’s to keep hyperinflation down apparently that middle size businesses are closed.

ALl those assets are goingt o cunterations from now on like Tescos and such.

Large pub companies are going to buy up smaller pubs.

It’s over!

And if small business owners were too dense to see it they deserve to go out of business.

The French have COURAGE.

The Brits have NONE.

THey are a disgusting breed of weird wokeists who want their own sons to grow up sucking on a mouthful of dick and their daughters aborting their children.

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Jinks
Jinks
4 years ago
Reply to  FedupofLies

Not all, but something has gone terribly wrong, and has been deliberately engineered over the decades through the destruction of Christian tradition and education, sovereign wealth, extended families and communities.

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FedupofLies
FedupofLies
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

I would have supported it. All the others deserve to go out of businesses, whichthey weill.

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Suzyv
Suzyv
4 years ago
Reply to  katz

Businesses need to open in numbers for it to work. Then they can’t really be stopped or not so easily.

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FedupofLies
FedupofLies
4 years ago
Reply to  katz

Small businesses who din’t gtake part in the Great Reopening deserve to fail.

And they will.

And their property will be taken away.

And they will die.

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PastImperfect
PastImperfect
4 years ago
Reply to  Dobba

Promote the Great Reopening everywhere. Stickers, leaflets, handbills, websites.

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sam s.j.
sam s.j.
4 years ago
Reply to  Dobba

here i dont think they are shut down but i hate the masks policy. i must be braver and go back to trying to shop without my scarf [ have let it slip at least ]

instead of just staying a way from shopping in stores so much . you a re right we need numbers of people , i a m s till trying to find like minded poele to go w ith me haven’t found any yet .

bungle is an inspiration

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JohnB
JohnB
4 years ago
Reply to  sam s.j.

Whereabouts are you, sam ?

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sam s.j.
sam s.j.
4 years ago
Reply to  JohnB

am in the u .s i know i should try to find a u.s group like lockdown sceptics but there’s nothing like lockdown sceptics that i’ve found so far.especially all the great comments .

im trying the word of mouth in person talking to people but so far no one to go with me on my mission

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JohnB
JohnB
4 years ago
Reply to  sam s.j.

Local gun club ?

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sam s.j.
sam s.j.
4 years ago
Reply to  JohnB

a definite possibility am sure thanks for the idea !

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Karin505
Karin505
4 years ago
Reply to  sam s.j.

Try Reddit/lockdownskeptics they’ve helped keep my sanity since March 2020!

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sam s.j.
sam s.j.
4 years ago
Reply to  Karin505

thank you so much john and karin i just looked but it is so confusing for me to understand it being bad at computer so i guess i ‘ll jsut go back to being encouraged by comments here and the articles[ before the’ vaccine is good’ ones] , and talking to people in person the old fashioned way,[ more my speed ;]

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RickH
RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  Dobba

“While the majority of the middle class get to sit on their arses from home … “

Bang! Straight into the trap of division and mickey-mouse thinking. How naive can you get?

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eastender53
eastender53
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

I am sorry but you are a p***k. There is a clear division between the Latte and Zoom brigade and real people. You are clearly from the former. Good luck to you. I’m retired and relatively safe but my heart bleeds for those whose livelihoods/businesses/futures have been destroyed by man, not by nature. Enjoy your coffee.

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Phillips13
Phillips13
4 years ago
Reply to  Dobba

Exactly. These passive, smartphone-obsessed millenials hiding behind their phones when something of note happens before their eyes sicken me. I remember the Lee Rigby murder, videoed from multiple angles and in surround sound by a crowd as if on a film set, and thought at the time, how the fuck can they just stand there? Yes, he was holding a machete, but they were large in number and could easily have overwhelmed him. In less ‘civilised’ countries he would’ve been torn limb from limb before the police would’ve arrived, and in our great country we stand around and livestream.

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Steve Hayes
Steve Hayes
4 years ago

As South Korea rolls out its Covid 19 vaccination programme, there are thousands of adverse reactions, including seven deaths in the first week. The “vaccine” is the AstraZeneca product. In contrast, during the whole of the pandemic, South Korea has had sixteen hundred coronavirus related deaths.

Meanwhile in the US there are reports of dozens of people dying as a result of developing a rare immune disorder after receiving the Pfizer or Moderna products, which use the mRNA technology.

Here in England, we have seen care homes deaths substantially rise after the roll out of the vaccination programme.

The MHRA, whilst clearly at pains to minimise the negative effects of the so called vaccines, reported six hundred and forty adverse reaction deaths in the period from 9 December 2020 to 21 February 2021.

Could these facts be the reason why Piers Morgan has taken to calling anyone who does not want one of the so called vaccines a coward?

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Lisa (formerly) from Toronto
Lisa (formerly) from Toronto
4 years ago
Reply to  Steve Hayes

While I don’t know one person who has died of Covid, I predict I will know people who have been injured or killed by the experimental gene therapy. If coward is the worst name I’m called for not letting the government change my DNA and probably kill me, then so be it. Maybe when Piers Morgan’s DNA is altered he won’t be such a prick.

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JaneHarry
JaneHarry
4 years ago
Reply to  Lisa (formerly) from Toronto

my prediction exactly – and it’s already begun to come true: only 2-3 months into the experimental roll-out, a relative of a relative [ok quite far removed from me, but let’s say on the outer margins of my social network] dropped dead for no apparent reason within hours/days of being injected – this contrasts with 0 covid deaths in 12 months, not even on the outer outer margins of my network. and I don’t expect the real slaughter to begin until the next flu season, so winter 2021-22

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ElizaP
ElizaP
4 years ago
Reply to  JaneHarry

That’s rather when I’m expecting the “penny to drop” all round. So long to go till then. Right now – I’m thinking “Just my blinkin’ luck – just as I get new neighbours and they seem decent – and she’s already told me she’ll be having the jab. Darn – she’s probably going to get killed – and I might be back to bad neighbours all round”. So I’m expecting I might literally witness this on my doorstep…

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FedupofLies
FedupofLies
4 years ago
Reply to  Lisa (formerly) from Toronto

I really don’t think he’ll be taking it.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  FedupofLies

He promised to take it live on telly.
Did he do so ?

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Annie
Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  Steve Hayes

So it takes courage to confront the manifest dangers of the snake oil? If that’s so, no zombies can be taking it.
No surprise if Morgan is anxious to embrace another prick.

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JaneHarry
JaneHarry
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

it’s just a game of ‘chicken’ isn’t it – ‘step in front of that moving train or you’re chicken’ – only a juvenile idiot falls into that trap

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FrankiiB
FrankiiB
4 years ago
Reply to  Steve Hayes

We read in the news in the past week that for those who had Covid before, adverse reaction to the jab is greater. Why? I have been trying to find out and cant find any explanation. The question is brushed aside. But surely this is a vital question. Is it a sign there might be ADE (antibody dependent enhancement)? At the very least, this question should be given urgent attention.

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Alex B
Alex B
4 years ago
Reply to  FrankiiB

The Telegraph carried a story like that yesterday and I had the same thought about possible ADE.

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disgruntled246
disgruntled246
4 years ago
Reply to  FrankiiB

I don’t understand why people who think they have had covid are so keen to have the jab anyway. It’s totally illogical.

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ElizaP
ElizaP
4 years ago
Reply to  FrankiiB

…and how would we even necessarily know we’d already had it? Some of us will have had it so mildly that it barely registered. Like many – I had “something” months back for a few weeks – but it was so darn mild I couldn’t tell you what it was…

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katz
katz
4 years ago
Reply to  ElizaP

Most people need a test to know that they’ve got it. Deadly indeed.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Steve Hayes

12 months ago, ie before UK lockdown 1., South Korea was comparing hospitalisations with deaths and thought Covid was 5-10%(?) fatal.

They then mass tested some hundreds of thousands of random people and discovered that a large proportion of the population had already had Covid without noticing and that the true fatality rate was somewhere -1%.

From that moment every single UK response was wrong with the possible exception of the first three weeks of lockdown which succeeded in its stated aim of preventing a rush of Covid hospitalisations overwhelmingly the NHS; at which point bozo could have claimed Victory and become the nations hero.

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Ed Phillips
Ed Phillips
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Except the first lockdown caused a serious amount of deaths by throwing people out of hospital, putting infectious people into nursing homes and scaring people into staying away from health care.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Ed Phillips

Agreed but we didn’t know that at the time just as we didn’t know that Covid was not the medieval plague from hell as presented to us from China and then Italy.

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Ed Phillips
Ed Phillips
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

I’d push back a little on that too. All the info we had suggested that it only impacted older people with co-morbidities. Nothing has really changed about what we know about it.

I agree though that having made the decision that this should all have ended after the initial three weeks.

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Jinks
Jinks
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Knowing a little something about mechanical ventilation, as well being aware of the generated pandemic of hysterical fear, from the off I was aghast at their indiscriminate use, and IMO, genocide was being committed from the very beginning.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Jinks

My personal knowledge of things medical verges upon zero but I have become more knowledgeable thanks not least to contributors at LS.

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FedupofLies
FedupofLies
4 years ago
Reply to  Ed Phillips

So, who gave the order to do that. It happened in New York where Cuomo is being made an example of and in Britain and I think even in Sweden.

Was the order given from some higher power?

Everyone knows care homes are cul de sacs of infections where viruses spread like wildfire. Doesn’t take a medical degree to know that. And then the whole Nightingale SCAM. Totally malevolent.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  FedupofLies

The roll out of Nightingale hospitals was slovenly in the case of a genuine emergency. Ours was not even started until lockdown lite ‘though it was built remarkably quickly by a local contractor.

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Jinks
Jinks
4 years ago
Reply to  FedupofLies

It absolutely was. The recommendation came from China, and then promoted to public health authorities as the only known treatment.

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Saved To Death
Saved To Death
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

In my opinion however dangerous a virus might be circulating we should never accept that the government should have the power to violate out liberty in this way. If you are willing to accept that the first lock down is ‘OK’ all you are seeing now is the inevitable consequences of giving such power over one group of human beings to another. To accept lockdown can ever be OK is to accept our new relationship with government and its consequences – enslavement, poverty and an early death.

There is not clear evidence lockdown ‘worked’. It is much more likley that lockdown lead to the deaths of more people and then the virus ever would have. There was already plenty of evidence before the lockdown telling us that this was not such a remarkable virus anyway and that the NHS would not become any more overwhelmed then is normal – not that mismanagement of the NHS can ever justify lockdown.

By implementing lockdown bozo became a tyrant. He could never have been a ‘hero’ after that point.

I am not the property of the state.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Saved To Death

Agreed except we have accepted denials of our freedoms in the case of national emergency in the past.

The BBC WW2 drama ‘Foyles War’ is playing in the background and every episode has emergency regulations, and avoidance thereof, as the background.
We all grew up with the last of these, pub opening hours though these actually went back to WW1.

This time last year it may well be that the government genuinely thought we faced a national emergency and so I lent it my trust even though after three weeks it was clearly not.

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mhcp
mhcp
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

There’s a reason why “Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practise to deceive” is pertinent.

If Liberty is at the whim of those in power then you are a serf.

The only thing in many minds that balances this is that you must take some discomfort from time to time to get through where it will be all normal again.

Except the only real way for it to be normal again is for those who tried this scam to be severely punished.

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Spikedee1
Spikedee1
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

I agree and we all think the fat pig dictator is on par with the angel of Death Josef Mengele. Then I see in todays paper he is in front of the polls! Well there you go folks you really can fool all the people!!

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Bungle
Bungle
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Where is your evidence?

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katz
katz
4 years ago
Reply to  Steve Hayes

I’m feeling a bit deranged lately too

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Spikedee1
Spikedee1
4 years ago
Reply to  Steve Hayes

He is a clever guy and can see his narrative losing ground. Another twat who thinks twitter is real life and a reflection of public opinion. If the narrative turns to our point of view he will be seen as a cheerleader for the zealots! That will not be a good look. Especially when all the truths about the jab comes out. Couldn’t happen to a nicer guy.

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Steve Hayes
Steve Hayes
4 years ago

If all monuments with links to slavery are to be torn down, does this mean the end of the Church of England, which had substantial slave holdings until after the Slavery Abolition Act, when it received generous compensation from the taxpayer (the former slaves of course received nothing)?

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Annie
Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  Steve Hayes

No worries.The Church of England died on 23 March 2020.

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Steve Hayes
Steve Hayes
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Does Archbishop Woke Welby know? Did anyone inform Queen Elizabeth? And have you noticed that there’ still more than two dozen of these clerics sitting in the House of Lords?

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Annie
Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  Steve Hayes

Animated corpses. Residents of Zombie Britain.

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ElizaP
ElizaP
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

You mean we’re in an episode of Doctor Who – and don’t even know it?

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jos
jos
4 years ago
Reply to  ElizaP

I think the writers of Dr Who knew this was coming or wrote the WEF game plan – too many episodes are beginning to come true..

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Ed Phillips
Ed Phillips
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Like so many of our institutions it’s been dead for a long time before then.
That’s just the date we noticed.

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Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

As did all the “accepted” British political parties.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Steve Hayes

For the first two decades of my working life I was still paying off the tax bill for compensation to former slave owners.

Security of private property was a cornerstone of the prosperous liberal democracy that we thought we used to live in.

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Steve Hayes
Steve Hayes
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

It was 2015 when the taxpayer finished paying for the compensation to the slave owners.

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ElizaP
ElizaP
4 years ago
Reply to  Steve Hayes

I admit it was all news to me to find out recently that slave-owners had been paid compensation. I thought they’d just been made to give them up and that was that…..whoops!

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Prof Feargoeson
Prof Feargoeson
4 years ago
Reply to  Steve Hayes

The Kaaba could be under threat too.

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mj
mj
4 years ago
Reply to  Prof Feargoeson

no – the saudis are still quite ok about slavery ..

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Prof Feargoeson
Prof Feargoeson
4 years ago
Reply to  mj

That was my point 😉

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katz
katz
4 years ago
Reply to  Steve Hayes

My grandchildren will be tearing down the statue of drakeford in years to come. It’s the only thing they have to look forward to.

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Spikedee1
Spikedee1
4 years ago
Reply to  Steve Hayes

I have written to the Roman Church and Parliament demanding reparations for my people, the English, for the horrors of their slave trade. For the rape of our daughters especially Boudicca and the Iceni tribe. Yes I know we burnt down Colchester but that was your fault. So the slave trade in the UK was about 160 years. The Romans ruled and enslaved us for 400 years so we must get at least 2.5 times what they get?

I have then written to Denmark, Sweden, and Norway demanding reparations for their enslavement if British people. I await their replies. In the meantime has anyone got a contact address for the Barbary pirates?

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Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  Steve Hayes

landsakes! There’s been slavery throughout history. Seems to me that foreign slaves became popular because it allowed slavery of British people to end. And don’t forget that in the late 17th century, British people were being kidnapped and enslaved in Africa. One of my ancestors (Sir Cloudesley Shovell) helped negotiate their release.

It would be far more useful to ban the sale of any products with any sort of links to forced labour or deplorable working conditions, or at least to label them, than to try and whitewash history with these silly acts of cultural vandalism.

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SilentP
SilentP
4 years ago

This may sound like a minor terminology issue but it could be important.

The terms being used to describe the vaccination certificates include Freedom Pass and Vaccine Passports. Both of these indicate something positive about the certificates.

I propose that a standard generic term is adopted by LS and its ilk for describing the certificates. This should use words that have appropriate negative coercive connotations but is not so derogatory that it is not taken seriously.

The term vaccination certificate has been used to some extent. That does not contain the positive connotations but ideally the term adopted would be more powerful than that.

Any suggestions?

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scuzbert
scuzbert
4 years ago
Reply to  SilentP

Medical Permit? Vaxx Permit? I’ll keep thinking.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  scuzbert

Permit has the correct tone.
Coronovirus Compliance Permit perhaps

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Cheezilla
Cheezilla
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

As in CCP?

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Judy Watson
Judy Watson
4 years ago
Reply to  SilentP

How about’Travel Permit’? ‘cos that’s all it is really.

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this is my username
this is my username
4 years ago
Reply to  Judy Watson

Exit visa

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scuzbert
scuzbert
4 years ago
Reply to  Judy Watson

Well, yes and no. It’s altogether possible one will be required to enter a pub, restaurant, theatre or even a shop.

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Edward
Edward
4 years ago
Reply to  scuzbert

Can’t see it happening for pubs or shops. Maybe theatres where they like to know who their customers are and ask for your details if you book in advance – “so we can get in touch if the event is cancelled” is the excuse they use.

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Annie
Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  SilentP

The Zombie Pass.

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Lisa (formerly) from Toronto
Lisa (formerly) from Toronto
4 years ago
Reply to  SilentP

I Gave Away My Freedom Pass? The Illusion of Freedom Pass? Certificate of Genetic Modification? Patsy Pass?

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TC
TC
4 years ago
Reply to  SilentP

Impfung macht frei?

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Freecumbria
Freecumbria
4 years ago
Reply to  SilentP

Experimental vaccine permit

Important to have the word experimental in there

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Llamasaurus Rex
Llamasaurus Rex
4 years ago
Reply to  SilentP

Proof of Prick. POP for short.

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PastImperfect
PastImperfect
4 years ago
Reply to  Llamasaurus Rex

Proof of Occult Prick. POOP for short?

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Jinks
Jinks
4 years ago
Reply to  SilentP

The Prick Chip, or the Chipped Pricks, as I shall be referring to such.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Jinks

Implanted chips will be coming soon.
There was a trial in a Scandinavian city in which people agreed to have a chip inserted into their flesh for the dubious benefit of easier access to a Niteclub and service at the bar.

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Jinks
Jinks
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

There are around 300k voluntarily chipped Swede pricks, for convenience and security

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jos
jos
4 years ago
Reply to  Jinks

Why would anyone volunteer for their own enslavement? It’s like digging your own grave!

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Skippy
Skippy
4 years ago
Reply to  SilentP

gene therapy thingy

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CivilianNotCovidian
CivilianNotCovidian
4 years ago
Reply to  SilentP

Apartheid Form

That’s what I’ve been calling it. It REALLY shocks people. I say, “I won’t be involved with medical apartheid and nor should you. It is not even remotely legal”.

At the end of the day, it’s a great big psy op – they are bleating on about it to SCARE people into taking the drug. It’s sadly working! I know young people who say, “I’m going to book in and get it because I don’t want to be stopped from going into shops.” Vile, EVIL lies.

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CivilianNotCovidian
CivilianNotCovidian
4 years ago
Reply to  CivilianNotCovidian

Actually I prefer:

Apartheid Papers

Use all the connotations we can.

I also call the “mask exempt lanyard” the “yellow star” – when asked to wear a lanyard I say, “No, I will not wear a yellow star, my uncovered face shows that I am mask exempt.”

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ElizaP
ElizaP
4 years ago
Reply to  CivilianNotCovidian

Slightly amended to “apartheid pass”. It’s definitely one of my comments now that “If I’d wanted to experience what apartheid was like – then I’d have moved to South Africa”.

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Prof Feargoeson
Prof Feargoeson
4 years ago
Reply to  SilentP
  1. Artificial Immunity Certificate
  2. Stage 3 Trial Membership Card (good till 2023.)
  3. Red Card (cf. Israel’s Green Card which has connotations of forward progress, permission to go on, citizenship. In reality it can turn Red anytime if the government change the rules e.g. you now need a twice-yearly booster or it’s invalid.)
  4. PharmaPass (are you a Company man?)
  5. CovidPass (it’s for Covid so link it indelibly to that nothing-burger.)
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AB
AB
4 years ago
Reply to  SilentP

Coercion certificate

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Liberty
Liberty
4 years ago
Reply to  SilentP

Limited Life License

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mhcp
mhcp
4 years ago
Reply to  SilentP

Test Subject Tag

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SilentP
SilentP
4 years ago
Reply to  SilentP

Thank you for the very inventive suggestions so far. Some of the more derogatory ones could be used colloquially but do not really meet the criteria I set, where they could be recognised as an accepted standard term.

The one I favour at this stage:

Coronavirus Compliance Permit

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bluemoon
bluemoon
4 years ago
Reply to  SilentP

Agreed! I like C.C.P.

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Robin Birch
Robin Birch
4 years ago
Reply to  SilentP

Perhaps something with a Germanic undertone?

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Robin Birch
Robin Birch
4 years ago
Reply to  Robin Birch

How about Coronovirus-Konformitätserlaubnis

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Prof Feargoeson
Prof Feargoeson
4 years ago
Reply to  Robin Birch

Vakzine Papier
Impfpapier

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Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  Robin Birch

Covid compliance Ausweis will do, I think. If enough people get the “Ausweis” reference. Otherwise covid compliance Identifikation.

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Old Trout
Old Trout
4 years ago
Reply to  SilentP

I would just go for Compliance Permit. Basically its just compliance to any rules they decide to make up, whether to do with covid or not.

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Wolver
Wolver
4 years ago
Reply to  SilentP

Pharma Compliant Permit.
NPC Pass.

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gone_loopy
gone_loopy
4 years ago
Reply to  SilentP

Permit to Live.

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
4 years ago
Reply to  SilentP

Proof of Existence

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katz
katz
4 years ago
Reply to  SilentP

‘Permit’ definitely has different, negative connotations. It’s about being given permission to do something, so the power is with the authority doling out the permission, rather than on the person who has done whatever is mandated.

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JohnB
JohnB
4 years ago
Reply to  katz

Dog licence.

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Dobba
Dobba
4 years ago
Reply to  SilentP

Apartheid Permit/Pass

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Laura Suckling
Laura Suckling
4 years ago
Reply to  SilentP

Apartheid Certificate.

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Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  Laura Suckling

Maybe i.d. card, cos that’s where it’ll likely end up. Think they’ll give it up once they’ve got their foot in the door?

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dbrown
dbrown
4 years ago

All over the northern hemisphere the case/death rate is plunging in almost identical fashion with the approach of spring—regardless of whether countries or states locked down or not. (But watch them claim that lockdowns and vaccine did it all.)It’s purely malignant, political hubris on the part of the dominant elites to think that society can technocratically control fundamental elements of nature ,such as viruses , that have been co-evolving with life for millions of years.But the truly hideous part is that this has all been based on three media -generated lies. 1)That this virus is “novel”. 2) It is so lethal that all of humanity is at risk. 3) And that there is no no known defence against it. Ergo:Totalitarianism under the rubric of medical science is the order of the day.Yet the past year has clearly shown that: a) this thing called COV Sars2 behaves very much like all other coronaviruses. b) 99.5% of people exposed it did not die. c) That there is an enormous defence against it called the human immune system—particularly in people in good metabolic health..(Leave alone a plethora of other potentially useful pharmaceutical and natural treatments, when used wisely.) What’s the big panic?We’re ostensibly… Read more »

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scuzbert
scuzbert
4 years ago
Reply to  dbrown

A thoughtful, though-provoking comment – thankyou!

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maggie may
maggie may
4 years ago
Reply to  dbrown

I love your 3 media-generated lies and the response to them. so simple and so true, thanks for posting this.

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Prof Feargoeson
Prof Feargoeson
4 years ago
Reply to  maggie may

I forget who posted it the other day but I really liked this response to 1) that it’s something completely new they had to deal with: (to paraphrase) It’s not something new – the clue is in the name – it’s called SARS-CoV-2.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Prof Feargoeson

I’ve said that to a number of people who have tried to tell me that Covid is unprecedented and new.

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Prof Feargoeson
Prof Feargoeson
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Was probably you then – kudos!

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katz
katz
4 years ago
Reply to  dbrown

Yes it would end things if everyone could magically see that everyone else is as sceptical as they are. How does that happen? McCarthyism eventually died a death due to the waning of public popularity and people who were brave enough to question his madness didn’t it? How did that happen? Why are most human beings so stupid?

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jos
jos
4 years ago
Reply to  dbrown

Stand outside any bus stop or railway station in the UK and you can see the ripping off of masks and the blissful airgasms of people gulping fresh air. It’s already happening.

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Spikedee1
Spikedee1
4 years ago
Reply to  dbrown

Beautifully said. 👏 the hoops people are jumping through just to keep this idiotic narrative going is a sight to see. As Hitchins said right at the beginning, the problem with empowerment is its really, really hard to give it up. They know if they let us go now people will see its all been bullshit and will never be coerced again.

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Bungle
Bungle
4 years ago
Reply to  dbrown

The darkest quarter of the year (the 13 weeks I call Winter) finished on 5th February. That’s your only mistake; the rest is spot on!

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Lisa (formerly) from Toronto
Lisa (formerly) from Toronto
4 years ago

Exactly right. Cede no moral ground to these psychopaths because if you accept their premises you’ve already lost the argument — how many “cases” justify lockdown, how many hospital admissions, how many deaths? When you’re arguing numbers with them you’re conceding that under some conditions lockdowns are justified. It’s never OK to lock down healthy people. PERIOD.

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danny
danny
4 years ago
Reply to  Lisa (formerly) from Toronto

Absolutely agree. There is a general acceptance now amongst anyone campaigning to end lockdown that a) the vaccine is welcome, and b) lockdown in the early days was necessary.
Taking the vaccine (looking at you Mr Hitchens) or for that matter accepting testing, is fundamentally to accept that the virus is a deadly and existential threat to our existence. On the second point, the moment that China and then Italy began shutting down society and locking up healthy people, there were a great many voices NOT in support. These were measures never been taken in response to a virus similar to that seen every few years. The notion that “we panicked, what else could we do” is entirely wrong.

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JaneHarry
JaneHarry
4 years ago
Reply to  Lisa (formerly) from Toronto

that’s why I refuse to even concede that there is such a virus as SARS Cov 2, such a disease as covid 19. I refuse to accept any information whatsoever from lying, manipulative, deceitful psychopaths. If they talked about it honestly, with respect for the truth, respect for me as a free human being, then I might listen. but failing that, they can just shove their crazy rantings about a deadly killer disease stalking the planet and threatening to wipe us out up their lying asses

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PastImperfect
PastImperfect
4 years ago
Reply to  JaneHarry

Sorry, I can upvote only once.

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Zeppo595
Zeppo595
4 years ago
Reply to  Lisa (formerly) from Toronto

I had a discussion about this with a friend of mine he made the point: ‘if it was ebola, I’d want all these restrictions – therefore I cannot say it’s categorically wrong to lock people down.’ I found myself, as a lockdown sceptic, also kind of agreeing. I suppose for this particular virus the cure is worse than the disease. But lots of people just hold their hands up in the air and say, ‘but well, we’re stopping people dying’ and if you give any counter evidence it does not register. It could basically be that you are saying words in another language. This narrative has become so stuck in people’s minds that I cannot see any way to change it. You can talk about Sweden, other states in the US, the death rate being recorded wrongly, studies showing masks don’t work, studies showing asymptomatic spread is not real, data from hospitals being overwhelmed in many other years – none of it matters. My feeling is that believing ‘we’re wearing masks, staying at home to save lives’ is easier to live with than, ‘we’re following authoritarian rules that make no sense and may be allowing a nefarious re-ordering of society.’… Read more »

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karenovirus
karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Zeppo595

‘We are staying home’.
Only to the extent that, bar some shops, there is nowhere to go and nothing to do outdoors (though many here report going for a nice walk for its own sake).

Last weekend I reported on large numbers of people enjoying the riverside leisure and tourism hub in the sunshine with little or no interference from police.

Yesterday I was outside the doors of a largish Sainsbury’s. The carpark was almost full, normal range of people scurrying about, it was chilly, no pedestrian queue at the entrance and no Covid Marshals.

The only clue to Covid was almost ubiquitous masks and the young man corralling errant trolleys who sprayed the handles with gunk before wiping them down with a raggy J-Cloth that looked as though he’d never changed it.

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katz
katz
4 years ago
Reply to  Zeppo595

People are afraid of the police and fines and public humiliation, they’re not afraid of the virus any more. In the past year I know of only one person who ‘had it’ – this person had a mild cough for a few days and was sent for a test and told she’d had covid. I don’t think anyone really believes in the bbc narrative any more, they’re just afraid of sticking their heads above that parapet and publicly questioning it, as opposed to privately questioning it. How many people on here are publicly standing up against it all? How many people on here are even using their real names in this ‘safe’ place? I’m not.

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Dobba
Dobba
4 years ago
Reply to  katz

I’m very vocal and forward to everyone around me at work and anyone I speak to about it. I don’t wear masks – I don’t sanitise – I won’t be vaccinated – I don’t stand two metres – I visit friends – I gather in groups – I’m happy to shake hands, hug, whatever and I’ll do it in front of other people.

The best way of not complying is not complying and carrying on as normal. 🙂

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OKUK
OKUK
4 years ago
Reply to  Zeppo595

Some good posts today!

Re Ebola, I read an article by the guy who occasionally writes in the Spectator – Aidan Hartley (?) who lives in Africa – and was surprised at how casual he was about Ebola, and being in the vicinity of Ebola vicitms suggesting it’s not necessarily quite the killer plague we expected. I’m not saying he’s right – I know nothing about Ebola – but given the lies we’ve we been exposed to re Covid, it makes you wonder a little whether we’ve heard the whole story.

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Lisa (formerly) from Toronto
Lisa (formerly) from Toronto
4 years ago
Reply to  OKUK

I’d argue that even if it was Ebola, the government has no business locking down healthy people. I trust people to take the precautions they feel are necessary based on what they see with their own eyes. No convincing would be necessary if it was an Ebola-like illness. Even conceding to the psychopaths that some illness would justify lockdowns but not this illness, is ceding too much ground.

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lincsfloody
lincsfloody
4 years ago
Reply to  Lisa (formerly) from Toronto

If you are ill its a natural instinct to be at your home, hole up and recover. To be told you’re ill but you’re not feeling ill is abnormal. Your body naturally produces symptoms and antibodies when genuinely ill, so to accept a flawed test result is absurd, trust your immune system.
Asymptotic means healthy, don’t believe government bs.

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eastender53
eastender53
4 years ago
Reply to  Zeppo595

Simple. It’s not Ebola. It’s not even 1% of Ebola. I flew helicopters with UN medics into villages. With utmost respect there is simply no comparison.

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
4 years ago
Reply to  Lisa (formerly) from Toronto

Hear, hear!!! Hence why I’ve long ceased to believe that this is about a virus.

Also I’ve long maintained that any info emanating from the government and the MSM are simply lies and propaganda. During meetings when I speak up, I always emphasise that it’s the lockdown wot did it and not parrot management who still maintain its a pandemic. I have also refused to listen to friends and family who still maintain we have to make sacrifices and refuse to listen to other points of view and even try to silence me by making me out to be “selfish” and “wanting to let people die.” I’ve been polite and diplomatic throughout but not this time. Let them learn the hard way when economic Armageddon comes to affect them and when they have to clean up the mess wrought by the restrictions on their children.

I’m done.

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Annie
Annie
4 years ago

Lockdown is abominable and should never have been even contemplated in a free society, or in any society.

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Annie
Annie
4 years ago

Please, please, folks, sign this:

https://usforthem.co.uk/open-letters/no-masks-in-class/

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Victoria
Victoria
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Done

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Two-Six
Two-Six
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

x2 here

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karenovirus
karenovirus
4 years ago

Interesting article from the Mirror.
An NHS worker who complained on a Farcebook group about people not obeying lockdown rules is suspended months later after a single anonymous complaint and is subject to a kafkaesque investigation (‘all the evidence is secret’).

From the photo it looks as though he is suffering from a case of maskitis.

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Prof Feargoeson
Prof Feargoeson
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

The slave rag wears him.

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mhcp
mhcp
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

It’s the FFP3 masks. They are a tight fit. But the side effect is possible face scarring.

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Two-Six
Two-Six
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

hahaha, hope his face falls off.

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Ed Phillips
Ed Phillips
4 years ago

Reminder to Christians that singing is not ‘against the law’. It’s only guidance.

And even if it was against the law there is a higher law to obey which states we are to sing psalms, hymns and spiritual songs to one another.

Have a blessed day.

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disgruntled246
disgruntled246
4 years ago
Reply to  Ed Phillips

One of the saddest, among many, things about a young man’s funeral which I witnessed lately was the instruction to the small group attending that they could not sing the hymns but could mouth the words into their masks.
I say sad, actually it made me hopping mad. But sad for the people there, who are deeply religious and if anything could make an already awful situation worse, that certainly was not going to help.

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scuzbert
scuzbert
4 years ago
Reply to  disgruntled246

I’m surprised humming wasn’t recommended: that way, the mouth doesn’t need to open at all.
Disgusting and inhumane way to treat people who are probably at their lowest ebb.

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Annie
Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  scuzbert

Our Zombie Dean decreed that ‘on no account’ were people in our Coward Covidian church to be ‘permitted to hum’.

What would the bully boys have done at the funeral if people had started to sing? Stopped the service and turned everybody out? Called the police?

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Jinks
Jinks
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

When my youngest sister, the baby of the family, was murdered 6yrs ago, I sang “You’ll Never Walk Alone” as her coffin was carried in. I find it difficult in the extreme to imagine what kind of human being would’ve stopped me. I’m filled with so much sorrow, at the unthinking cruelty of people being convinced of the moral superiority of inflicting such soul-destroying, needless suffering.

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Alethea
Alethea
4 years ago
Reply to  Jinks

I am very sorry to hear about the terrible loss your family suffered.

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Jinks
Jinks
4 years ago
Reply to  Alethea

Thank you.

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disgruntled246
disgruntled246
4 years ago
Reply to  scuzbert

Inhumane is the word I would use too.

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Annie
Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  disgruntled246

Inhuman.

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Edward
Edward
4 years ago
Reply to  scuzbert

Naughty boys in my class at school sometimes would hum to annoy the teacher without being identified.

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davews
davews
4 years ago
Reply to  disgruntled246

Well before lockdown I went to a couple of funerals which were ‘non religious’. As well as having no prayers there were also no hymns. I found it most strange and came away thinking I had missed out on what is a fundamental part of saying goodbye to one’s friend. I did of course have a few quiet prayers to myself. To think that such funerals are now the ‘normal’ is dreadful.

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disgruntled246
disgruntled246
4 years ago
Reply to  davews

It would be strange to have no songs at all. Surely everybody would have some appropriate song even if it was My Way!

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TreeHugger
TreeHugger
4 years ago
Reply to  disgruntled246

We certainly did at my Dad’s funeral, lots of the music he loved. Also a young friend who died at 21, her funeral was full of music and singing as she was a singer herself. Never been to a religious funeral that was half as good a send off.

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Prof Feargoeson
Prof Feargoeson
4 years ago
Reply to  disgruntled246

What? Don’t the masks work then?

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Annie
Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  Ed Phillips

I sing psalms, hymns and spiritual songs every Sunday morning, in the open air.
Schwarzkopf it ain’t, but it’s as loud as I can manage.

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Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
4 years ago

Do you remember that quant old saying: “It’s a free country”?
Or was it just a figment of my imagination?

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this is my username
this is my username
4 years ago
Reply to  Fingerache Philip

I remember it – I don’t know when it stopped being true. I guess it was changed increment by increment, because that’s the way Marxists work.

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Annie
Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  this is my username

It was abolished a year ago, along with human rights and all that quaint old-fashioned nonsense.

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danny
danny
4 years ago
Reply to  this is my username

Not sure that closing schools and hospitals, abandoning the poor whilst allowing the middle class to flourish at home, destroying small businesses and lining the pockets of both the pharmaceutical and online retail industries, is what Marx ever had in mind.

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stewart
stewart
4 years ago
Reply to  danny

No he had other do-good ideas that he wanted to impose on society that ultimately created huge misery.

it pays to be suspicious of people that want to force you to do something for your own good.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  danny

Think I’ll carry on giving Marx a miss.

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Waldorf
Waldorf
4 years ago
Reply to  this is my username

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSofqNSuVy8
Well, obviously.

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Jinks
Jinks
4 years ago
Reply to  Fingerache Philip

We were, until we gave up our guns!

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PhilipF
PhilipF
4 years ago
Reply to  Fingerache Philip

It was much used in my youth (70s and 80s), but progressively fell out of use in response to reality.

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TJN
TJN
4 years ago

I’ve been thinking about the vaccine. I guess the call will come before long. Everyone around me is having it, and proud of it. So if I refuse I’ll be an outcast, as well as soon being banned from many, perhaps all, public venues – to say nothing of lost freedom of movement and no more foreign travel – leaving me effectively an untermensch. And by refusing the vaccine I risk being regarded as selfish, as shirking responsibility, and as riding on the backs of others who do their duty – the antithesis of the altruism that binds a society together, and secures our place within it.  I know I am at low risk from covid myself, but I’d feel terrible if I infected someone else. By having the vaccine I’d be contributing to herd immunity, ensuring the safety of people around me, and doing my bit towards the re-opening of society. The more people who are vaccinated, the safer it will be for everyone, resulting in less need for future lockdowns.  Johnson pointing at us Kitchener-like saying ‘your country needs you jabbed’ might be irksome, but should it deflect us from making the right decision? Isn’t that decision eventually… Read more »

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TJN
TJN
4 years ago
Reply to  TJN

Nah, only joking. Not going anywhere near it. 

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Poppy
Poppy
4 years ago
Reply to  TJN

Good lad/lass! I imagine we will never know the true number of people who have declined the vaccine; the numbers reported are always ‘people OFFERED’ not people actually JABBED. That’s deliberate on the part of our government to make the rollout look better. Remember, they are using every trick in the book to coerce, bully, pressure, and force people into having something they might not necessarily want. If this was genuinely for our health, they wouldn’t need to do that.

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Llamasaurus Rex
Llamasaurus Rex
4 years ago
Reply to  Poppy

My GP surgery called me. They offered the evil prick. I said no. To their incredulity.
then they called me again, repeat of offer, left on voicemail. I haven’t replied, since they already had my answer.
three texts received: again repeating the offer.
on Friday i received a letter….same offer.

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Poppy
Poppy
4 years ago
Reply to  Llamasaurus Rex

Block the number.

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Janette
Janette
4 years ago
Reply to  Llamasaurus Rex

God they are absolutely desperate for people to get this damn thing. Don’t they realise we know what their game is?

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JaneHarry
JaneHarry
4 years ago
Reply to  Llamasaurus Rex

the same GP surgeries who are far too busy to treat cancer patients. they really are now just drug pushers for big pharma, aren’t they? time to take myself out of the NHS

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fiery
fiery
4 years ago
Reply to  Llamasaurus Rex

I received the dreaded letter last week and it remains unopened. I’ve decided to tick the addressee no longer at this address box and return it just to see what happens. As far as I’m concerned this is junk mail and should be treated as such.

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ElizaP
ElizaP
4 years ago
Reply to  Llamasaurus Rex

One short sharp response back to the effect of “Protection from Harassment Act 1997 applies – so SHUT UP. I’ve kept a record of just how often you’ve harassed me so far and you are well into territory covered by that Act. I repeat – SHUT UP”.

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Bella Donna
Bella Donna
4 years ago
Reply to  Llamasaurus Rex

They sound desperate, perhaps they have a lot of stock building up.

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Marg
Marg
4 years ago
Reply to  Bella Donna

They seem to have ordered billions more doses than there are citizens. I have had 3 text up to now – on the last one it asked for a response, which was I will not be having the vaccine. Things have gone quiet since. If I get another one I shall be polite but firmer. I believe there is a lot of wastage. Matt Hancock seems to have no conception of numbers, hence PPE is being stored in warehouses around the country at enormous expense. No wonder the contracts were redacted, especially the price per unit. These wonderful friends of his and his Tory mates coming to the rescue. I wonder if commission was built in. Just saying

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Cheezilla
Cheezilla
4 years ago
Reply to  Bella Donna

They get £25 bonus for covivaxxing.

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
4 years ago
Reply to  Llamasaurus Rex

Sounds desperate to me.

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PastImperfect
PastImperfect
4 years ago
Reply to  Llamasaurus Rex

Similar here. We declined the GP “offer” and ignored half a dozen “No Number” landline calls. (No SIM in my phone). Ignored at least three letters each for my wife and I

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Jinks
Jinks
4 years ago
Reply to  Poppy

I saw a report in the BMJ, that there was only around a 38% uptake of the death-jab. I think I bookmarked it. I’ll see if I can find it.

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Jinks
Jinks
4 years ago
Reply to  Jinks

Sorry. Doesn’t look like I did. Bollocks.

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Llamasaurus Rex
Llamasaurus Rex
4 years ago
Reply to  Jinks

death-jab

has a certain ring to it. 👍🏻

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Jinks
Jinks
4 years ago
Reply to  Llamasaurus Rex

I’m thinking of extending it to death-murder-jab.

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disgruntled246
disgruntled246
4 years ago
Reply to  Jinks

I’m not sure if it was the one you were looking for but there is similar in the NHS document about how to persuade people to take it up from Dec 2020. Somebody else has posted the link further down/up this page.
This is the fella. https://www.local.gov.uk/sites/default/files/documents/Vaccination%20do%20and%20donts%20by%20audience%20cohorts.pdf

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Marg
Marg
4 years ago
Reply to  Jinks

I also think that people are not going for 2nd jab. I know there is a time lag but it sounds as if only 1m have received the second.

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Silke David
Silke David
4 years ago
Reply to  Marg

Maybe some decided after severe side effects not to have the 2nd.
And many will have died, either as a result of the “vaccine” or of natural causes.

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TJN
TJN
4 years ago
Reply to  Poppy

Good lad/lass! 

I’ll give you a clue – if Mrs TJN (an arch sceptic) saw this post she’s have a go at me for wasting my time and having nothing better to do than write such garbage …

Yep, they will use every trick in the book to coerce us into taking this poison, and then the endless series of boosters afterwards.

My post is supposed to be a parody of the emotional blackmail they will use, to which very many people will succumb.

Then there’s the stick of the vaccine passport, to which many others will succumb. I can’t be sure of course, but I reckon that is largely bluff. I’m prepared to call their hand on this, and even if it isn’t bluff still face them down.

They’ll have to starve me and the TJN household out, by which time my guess is that awful vaccine side effects will have been revealed, and the game will be up.

Either way, knuckle down and stand the course.

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Poppy
Poppy
4 years ago
Reply to  TJN

Agree that the vaccine passport is largely bluff to get people to cave. After all, it got Peter Hitchens, who is supposedly an arch-sceptic, to capitulate, so I imagine those who are less truculent and merely sitting on the fence will be even more likely to give in. I say the passport is mainly bluff because there are people in society who generally cannot have the vaccine due to medical reasons, and a passport would exclude them. Discrimination lawyers would have a field day, and not only that, but ‘medical reason’ could be easily widened to those who decline because they are concerned about possible side-effects. Furthermore, if such a passport system was going to be introduced, the easiest way to do it would be to set all the data and infrastructure up before people were jabbed, but we’re already at 20 million offered and we’ve seen how incompetent the state is – they’d have to retroactively sort out absolutely masses of data and someone get a smartphone app linked to confidential medical records, and all this is another goldmine for data protection lawyers. There are so many regulatory and legal hoops to jump through that vaccine passports will take… Read more »

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TJN
TJN
4 years ago
Reply to  Poppy

Yep, pretty well my thoughts too. It would be fascinating to watch them trying to explain why the Nuremberg Code is soooo 1940s.

As you say, the data is probably an unretrievable mess already. And there is no prospect of them getting a passport together before the end of the year. Given that stuff is due to reopen from April (and it’s hard to see that this can be delayed), are they really going to turn around late this year and tell people that they can no longer use venues as they have over the previous six months?

https://twitter.com/pcrclaims

is good on the passport/compulsion subject.

I suspect Peter Hitchens actually wanted the jab, and sought to persuade himself and others of the travel pretext as justification. But that’s his business, and nothing to do with me, so I shouldn’t and won’t criticise him for it.

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Still Got It
Still Got It
4 years ago
Reply to  Poppy

Completely agree. And this is why I am
holding out and will jump through whatever hoops, tests, quarantines to get the children on holiday this year.

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PastImperfect
PastImperfect
4 years ago
Reply to  Still Got It

My concern is the medium- and long-term dangers of the rushed, novel, untested, irreversible, mRNA, gene therapy.

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Polonium1806
Polonium1806
4 years ago
Reply to  Poppy

Thanks for a more positive view on this. Some people can get to feel defeated before the battle comes and this is no way to win anything. Lot of things might happen and most of of them impossible to predict even for best algorithms they have in their sciency cupboard.

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mhcp
mhcp
4 years ago
Reply to  Poppy

Plus there will be loopholes for say, politicians and diplomats, to have Diplomatic Immunity Passports. They don’t need to be fed the drugs like the plebs. They are the drug dealers.

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Bella Donna
Bella Donna
4 years ago
Reply to  mhcp

Hancock has already said he doesn’t have to take the jab because he’s has the virus, so we can all claim to have had it too.

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Will
Will
4 years ago
Reply to  Poppy

I don’t think we will see a “vaccine passport” within the UK but I think vaccination to travel is inevitable, unfortunately.

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FedupofLies
FedupofLies
4 years ago
Reply to  Will

I think the entire Western economy is going to go off a cliff. It’s a managed decline and China is going to emerge the largest consumer market.

Holidaying is OVER for most people for at least ten years. With global warming scam restrictions I suspect forever.

Any people on here talking about getting out of this shithole cuntry really need to do it now, before the Borislin Wall goes up for good.

Even peopole were allowed to cross the Berlin wall if they were pensioners, I think. Yeah, as I understand it was basically a massive anti-brain-drain and skills-drain operation.

Now they are going to contain people as population management is going to be a huge industry.

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Jinks
Jinks
4 years ago
Reply to  FedupofLies

There must be a unilateral write-off of all debt, and fiat currency system must be destroyed along with the private banks, job done. THEY will own nothing and we will be happy.

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Bella Donna
Bella Donna
4 years ago
Reply to  Will

If that means I cannot travel abroad, sobeit.

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Will
Will
4 years ago
Reply to  Bella Donna

Exactly the conversation my wife and I had earlier. She is not as sceptical as me but has concluded that the vaccine is not for us until it is shown to be safe which will be 2023 at the earliest.

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zubin
zubin
4 years ago
Reply to  Will

Didn’t someone post yesterday about travel ins invalid cos of experimental.medicine. so still cant travel (confidently) even if vaccinated?

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jonathan Palmer
jonathan Palmer
4 years ago
Reply to  Poppy

The vaccine passport is not a bluff.It is very real and has been planned by the EU for at least 3 years.Our own government have been busy developing plans for a digital identity as well.
That is not to say that it doesn’t face logistical and legal problems but after what we have seen the past year they will be cast aside.
Business will be so desperate to open up they will do the governments dirty work for them.

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Will
Will
4 years ago
Reply to  jonathan Palmer

I cannot see pubs asking people if they have been jabbed, unless the government forces them to, which I cannot see the government attempting because they will be torn apart in the courts.

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Bella Donna
Bella Donna
4 years ago
Reply to  Poppy

I think most of what the media screeches at us is mostly bluff. They know the majority are sheeple and will do as they are told even when they don’t have to.

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
4 years ago
Reply to  Poppy

Agree. The T&T & QR fiasco as is the Israeli article ATL shows how unworkable this all is.

No matter how hi tech the phones are, they still have massive issues. Those people who try to pay or swipe in and out underground stations using their phones or watches almost always hold up the queue because the phones don’t read the machines properly or reject them.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  TJN

I will react to any establishment trying to demand my vaccine permit as I did with those that went OTT with Track’n’Trace.

Simply go elsewhere, even different branches of Weatherspoons implemented that in different ways.

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FedupofLies
FedupofLies
4 years ago
Reply to  TJN

I think to be honest people should be less afraid of the dystopic stuff about digital grids and so on, and more about food shortages and loss in standard of living. I think that is coming.

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FedupofLies
FedupofLies
4 years ago
Reply to  TJN

I don’t know how much food you have in your cupboard. Mine is full and it really only does for two months.

Then you have to think about gas source and water source and sterilisation.

They would cut off essential services.

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TJN
TJN
4 years ago
Reply to  FedupofLies

We’re half off grid anyway. Can get various food from local farms. Going to get an air rifle so I can shoot wildlife. And there’s always roadkill around here.

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JohnB
JohnB
4 years ago
Reply to  TJN

‘wildlife’

I like it.

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Will
Will
4 years ago
Reply to  TJN

Grey Squirrels are highly nutritious and even the twats can’t attack shooting them because they are so destructive. I am going to start trapping signal crayfish as well.

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ElizaP
ElizaP
4 years ago
Reply to  TJN

..and don’t forget to remind them that car insurance companies aren’t likely to cover them if they have the jab. Lots of people seem to be so intent on foreign travel that they’d put their health at risk and sacrifice their freedom/bodily autonomy. But I bet they’ll think twice if they’re not allowed to drive their cars.

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Janette
Janette
4 years ago
Reply to  Poppy

Yes I agree with you Poppy

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karenovirus
karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Poppy

Yes, I’d noticed the ‘offered vaccine’, same sleight of hand as ‘with covid/from covid’ which many people are now aware of.

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Bella Donna
Bella Donna
4 years ago
Reply to  Poppy

We declined the jab. I think the fact its experimental and the trials have another year to go an excellent excuse.

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disgruntled246
disgruntled246
4 years ago
Reply to  TJN

Phew!
Seriously though, the friends of mine who are rushing to have it – they have done nothing ‘socially minded’ during these lockdowns, whereas I the lockdown sceptic (or denier as Dan Hodges would call us) and vaccine-hesitant one and not to blow my own trumpet joined the local volunteer scheme and shopped and picked up prescriptions for people who are isolating or housebound. They want the vaccine for their own good, not for ours.

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Annie
Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  disgruntled246

Indeed, vaxxistas and lockdownistas are selfish to the very core of their miserable non-being.

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TJN
TJN
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Precisely. And all garbed in the most pharisaical hypocrisy.

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ElizaP
ElizaP
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

I’d throw in – immature as well. We all know that children learn what’s what by watching others as they grow up. That’s how they learn to talk/walk/etc/etc and it’s vital social skills at that age. But there comes a point where the next level social skill is learning to be an adult (ie part of that involves learning thinking skills).

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karenovirus
karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  ElizaP

I was talking to a young mum yesterday. Her two year old starts pre-school tomorrow.
The child does not know what another two year old is.

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Bella Donna
Bella Donna
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

It makes you want to weep!

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Edward
Edward
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Like Miranda in The Tempest, who is amazed by her first sight of humans other than her father.

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Agree. And they’re like the Pharisees who like to parade their virtue around publicly.

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FedupofLies
FedupofLies
4 years ago
Reply to  disgruntled246

I once donated two cans of soup to some kind of a foodbank. I thought I’d feel good about myself, but honestly the truth is I couldn’t give a salty fuck about anyone except myself.

Charity begins at home.

Morality is an ILLUSION and just a way of dressing up social cohesion.

GOD is a lie though there is a faint slim chance that SATAN is real, in which case I glorify him!!!

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Jinks
Jinks
4 years ago
Reply to  TJN

Reading this, I could feel my temperature rising. You really had me there! However, this is exactly where so many are at! Humanity needs serious intervention. Some form of Divine Slap to shock it out of this mass hysteria. Suffering from Stockholm Syndrome, it needs to be divorced from it’s Corporate abuser. It’s a daunting and messy task, that lays before those of us refusing to comply.

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JaneHarry
JaneHarry
4 years ago
Reply to  TJN

you had me for a moment

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karenovirus
karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  TJN

You little devils advocate you.

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Redundant Pilot
Redundant Pilot
4 years ago
Reply to  TJN

Brilliant, that’s the best laugh I’ve had in ages, although you had me worried to start with 🤣

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TJN
TJN
4 years ago
Reply to  Redundant Pilot

And right now I have 20 downvotes! I don’t know why I bother …

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Jinks
Jinks
4 years ago
Reply to  TJN

it’s funny. Shows even here, how such things go over peoples heads.

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
4 years ago
Reply to  TJN

April Fool (advanced). Brilliant.

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TJN
TJN
4 years ago
Reply to  TJN

I love a good piss take.

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Steve-Devon
Steve-Devon
4 years ago
Reply to  TJN

Unfortunately there are a lot of social pressures coming through, one of my wife’s music groups have already asked ‘have you had your jab yet?’ as a prelude to starting real music group meeting again. If you can just say yes, well that’s easy you just get ticked off, if you say no, you are challenged as to why not and when? My wife hates those sort of discussions, she cannot cope with them and so is inclined to risk the vaccination just to avoid these challenging conversations which are not good for her mental health.
So far she is holding off at least until another vaccine (Novavax) comes along but I am not sure if she (or me for that matter) can cope with this continuing social pressure?

I am sure many on this site are strong characters who will readily stand their ground on this but there are many people whose character is such that they cannot cope with this and will cave in to the social pressure for the sake of their mental well being.
It is not a nice world they have created for us.

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disgruntled246
disgruntled246
4 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

Can you encourage her to say she has been told she’s not medically suitable for the vaccine, and doesn’t want to talk about the reasons as it’s private? Or something along those lines.

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TJN
TJN
4 years ago
Reply to  disgruntled246

Sound advice.

Absolutely no way anyone should take this because of social pressure. Anyone who’s taking it because of social pressure doesn’t really want it, and clearly shouldn’t be having it.

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Janette
Janette
4 years ago
Reply to  TJN

I do wonder how many people that had the first jab will go for their second one?

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TJN
TJN
4 years ago
Reply to  Janette

The Behavioural Insights Team are addressing that. See p. 12 at NHS England and NHS Improvement document Optimising Vaccination Roll Out – Dos and Don’ts for all messaging, documents and “communications” in the widest sense

https://www.local.gov.uk/sites/default/files/documents/Vaccination%20do%20and%20donts%20by%20audience%20cohorts.pdf

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Bella Donna
Bella Donna
4 years ago
Reply to  Janette

Me too, I know a few who are desperate to go on holiday abroad and have had it purely for that reason. Now of course no one is allowed out of the country unless they have important business, (like politicians for instance LOL)!

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Steve-Devon
Steve-Devon
4 years ago
Reply to  disgruntled246

Thanks Probably the best approach, most people recognise that medical stuff is confidential and so hopefully would back off at that point.

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Prof Feargoeson
Prof Feargoeson
4 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

If pressured into saying more she could just say she was told she is allergic to PEG. If they ask what that is she can just say she doesn’t know all that technical stuff but it’s something in the vaccine.

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stewart
stewart
4 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

Just reply that your natural immune system has been shown to be 99.7% effective against the virus and 100% natural whereas the vaccines are at best 90% effective.

Say you are happy to take a vaccine as soon as they produce one that is more effective than your immune system.

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Freecumbria
Freecumbria
4 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

It is getting really irritating people almost as the first point in any conversation asking ‘have you had the jab?’ or ‘won’t be long until you have your jab’

Can she just say I think I’ve had the virus and so don’t need the jab. And if asked when/how just say a while ago just mild symptoms. I think we’ve all had mild symptoms that we could attribute to covid at some point.

Last edited 4 years ago by Freecumbria
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Basileus
Basileus
4 years ago
Reply to  Freecumbria

Give them some reading matter: https://healthimpactnews.com/2021/whistleblower-video-footage-of-forced-covid-vaccines-in-german-nursing-homes-goes-public-attorney-were-dealing-with-homicide-maybe-even-murder/

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TJN
TJN
4 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

All she has to say is that she’s waiting till the Phase 3 trials have finished, as she doesn’t want to be a medical guinea pig.

She may be greeted by vacant looks and thus have to expand on this a little, but needs must.

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Poppy
Poppy
4 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

What I don’t understand is why people can’t just refuse to answer, or say ‘None of your business’, or ‘That’s a very personal question’ whenever someone asks them if they have had the vaccine or not. It gives no information whatsoever, so if the person who originally asked about the vaccine then makes ‘anti-vaxx’ assumptions as a result of the person refusing to answer, then the problem is with the person who asked the question.

It is incredibly invasive for someone who is not a health professional to ask about your medical history in casual conversation. Prior to 2020, imagine if someone had asked you breathlessly if you’d had the flu jab, or the tetanus jab, or any other vaccine that exists. You’d have thought they needed sectioning.

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disgruntled246
disgruntled246
4 years ago
Reply to  Poppy

I can understand people feeling embarrassed into answering, but why would you ask in the first place? And why would you go around pointing people in the direction of signing up to be jabbed as well. Just MYOB !

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Steve-Devon
Steve-Devon
4 years ago
Reply to  disgruntled246

With music groups they are all fed up with music by zoom and the idea is that if they are all jabbed they can more safely and readily meet up and play as a group without being challenged. Those that have been jabbed see no problem and just assume everyone will go down that route so they can all start playing music together again.

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disgruntled246
disgruntled246
4 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

I understand the first part – but it is the second part which is the issue. It is the messianic fervour with which people are embracing it that I found odd and which seems to be removing the normal constraints of polite enquiry – you wouldn’t ask the whole group whether they’d had their piles treated.

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Steve-Devon
Steve-Devon
4 years ago
Reply to  Poppy

What I don’t understand is why people can’t just refuse to answer, or say ‘None of your business’, or ‘That’s a very personal question’ 

Unfortunately these sort of conversations are very difficult for people with autism or dyslexia, challenging conversations just ramp up the word blindness, confusion sets in and people are inclined to say yes OK just to end the conversation which they cannot cope with. There is such a huge social acceptance of these vaccines that people asking do not consider that there is any situation whereby you would not have the jab and get back to normal.

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fiery
fiery
4 years ago
Reply to  Poppy

Absolutely. I think a ‘prefer not to say’ option is a good idea.

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
4 years ago
Reply to  Poppy

You would have thought it was rude to ask about people’s medical matters. I would never in a million years ask about a person’s medical matters, if they volunteer with the information, fine. If they don’t I won’t ask much less pressure them to tell me.

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Waldorf
Waldorf
4 years ago
Reply to  Bart Simpson

That is what I would have thought.
“How long is it?”
“That’s a rather personal question.”

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Jinks
Jinks
4 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

just get a fake death-jab certificate.

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BTLnewbie
BTLnewbie
4 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

Steve, I have always been one to avoid confrontation and seek compromise wherever possible. I have recently “come out” about not having the vaccine “at this early stage while it’s experimental “.
I have been heartened that, after initial surprise, people seem to have accepted it. Maybe I’m lucky.
Anyway, for me it’s one area where compromise isn’t an option.

Last edited 4 years ago by BTLnewbie
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mhcp
mhcp
4 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

You could have her say “No not yet. I’m still waiting on the contract for the money I’ll receive. What? They didn’t pay you for the drug testing.”

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Polonium1806
Polonium1806
4 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

If I can give some small advice, being from former socialist country, which actually was a bureaucratic monster, feeding on tons of papers for this, certificates for that, so we were just lying, making stuff up, getting fake papers from someone. I know, I know, it’s not in the spirit of truthfulness and pure heart but what it taught me is fight much stronger enemy with whatever tricks you have in your pockets.

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Alethea
Alethea
4 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

I don’t think we owe the truth to people who have ceased to think rationally and act humanely. Certainly we don’t owe them the truth about a medical procedure that has zero relevance to their own physical wellbeing.

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TJN
TJN
4 years ago
Reply to  Alethea

I don’t think we owe the truth to people who have ceased to think rationally and act humanely.

Exactly.

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ElizaP
ElizaP
4 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

I’ve got suspicions re the local book group I belong to might take this attitude and I do know that the person who runs it (or, to be more accurate, his wife) might take this attitude. Fingers crossed they won’t – but, if I go out, then I’ll go out with a BANG (ie they’ll all get told about it and exactly what I think of them).

I certainly “won’t go quiet into that good night” or whatever the phrase is. Hopeful that they’ll be so well aware I wouldnt tolerate being told to take the vax and nor would I tolerate being excluded (and I’m a pretty vocal person in that sort of context LOL) that they won’t try that one on.

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ElizaP
ElizaP
4 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

There is the thought too that – to some of us – our mental wellbeing includes self-respect. I hold this as one of my own strongest values and I can handle the World thinking ill of me (if I must…darn it) but my values are Eternal ones and self-respect is vital to me.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

They are Illegally asking for private medical information.
In that circumstance I would suggest lying is acceptable.

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Bella Donna
Bella Donna
4 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

All you have to say is its too soon as its still being trialled and you want to wait until next year before making up your mind.

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
4 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

I would say “mind your own business” or under the Data Protection Act or GDPR I’m not inclined to discuss my private information with other people.”

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PastImperfect
PastImperfect
4 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

To me the reality of social pressure pales in comparison with the concerns I have for the medium- and long-term dangers of the rushed, novel, untested, irreversible, mRNA, gene therapy.

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Janette
Janette
4 years ago
Reply to  TJN

But the vaccine does not stop you transmitting it it only reduces the symptoms from it so in my view there is no point to get it and don’t forget it is still experimental. We are the guinea pigs if we take it!

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JaneHarry
JaneHarry
4 years ago
Reply to  TJN

there’s so many non-sequiturs in that I hardly know where to begin

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TJN
TJN
4 years ago
Reply to  JaneHarry

It’s a piss take! Based in part on the NHS England and NHS Improvement document Optimising Vaccination Roll Out – Dos and Don’ts for all messaging, documents and “communications” in the widest sense which someone posted on here a couple of days ago. 

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Prof Feargoeson
Prof Feargoeson
4 years ago
Reply to  TJN

Suckered me in completely lol. Wish I’d seen this before I typed all the below!

Does TJN stand for Take Jab Now or Take Jab Never? Up to you but keep the faith. The “vaccines” do not offer herd immunity: they have not been proven or even claimed to stop you getting it or transmitting it, they just allegedly ameliorate the symptoms. Asymptomatic transmission has been shown by numerous studies to be low or very low. If you have one of the Covid generic symptoms self isolate for a week and you won’t be infecting anyone. The old and frail who are the overwhelming victims of Covid-associated deaths are just as likely to be carried off by flu or their own co-morbidities.

The more people cave into this totally unethical coercion for a totally unnecessary medical procedure, the more likelihood we we will entering an overly-controlled, hellish technocratic, world where we are all guinea pigs as well as slaves. The truth cannot be suppressed for much longer.

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TJN
TJN
4 years ago
Reply to  Prof Feargoeson

If you thought I was being serious I commend you on the civility of your reply.

It’s got several downvotes right now. …

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Prof Feargoeson
Prof Feargoeson
4 years ago
Reply to  TJN

More flies are caught with honey than vinegar 🙂 I save the Anglo-Saxon for when I bang my head on something.

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Jinks
Jinks
4 years ago
Reply to  Prof Feargoeson

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😉

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Puddleglum
Puddleglum
4 years ago
Reply to  TJN

I don’t think that it is going to take very long for any problems to start showing up. They are already but because everyone is so enthusiastic about the products, those problems are not yet being recognised. Once people start trotting along for their 3rd or 4th vaccine it is going to be a lot harder to hide any side-effects by saying that they caught the virus post vaccine.

We only have to hang on in there facing social oprobium for a couple of years.

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ElizaP
ElizaP
4 years ago
Reply to  Puddleglum

That’s my take on it personally. After the hard year of the 3-week-Lockdown-that-wasnt we may indeed face another year or two before everyone (even the sheeple that managed to get off scot-free from vax illness somehow) will have to admit there’s been an awful lot of unusual illness going round in society. Look at Bells Palsy for instance (which sounds like one of the vax illnesses that comes up noticeably often) – and just how many people do they know with that then? Having got into my 60s to date – I’ve never yet encountered anyone with that or heard of anyone in my circle having that. So, if suddenly Mr/Ms Sheeple realise that they now know a couple of people with it for instance = surely that will give them pause for thought?

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FedupofLies
FedupofLies
4 years ago
Reply to  TJN

Seeing morons after the 2008 financial ‘crisis’ repeat the slogan ‘We’re all in it together!’ and ‘We all have to tighten our belts!’ after the biggest transfer of wealth from the taxpayer upwards to the financial industry and corporations must have taught the globalists that the people really do have no self-respect and would be possible to screw over royally at some point in the future.

The truth is that it is very hard to respect people who have no respect for themselves, which is why I am beginning to wonder if I should be supporting whatever Gates et al have planned for the stupid majority.

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CivilianNotCovidian
CivilianNotCovidian
4 years ago

Absolutely! We should be saying “We are a liberal democracy, not an authoritarian dictatorship” and we will FUNCTION as a democracy. All the government’s restrictions are COMPLETELY outside of their remit (I think the term is ultra vires… sounds like virus!) No more dictatorship. No more totalitarian state. This is OUR COUNTRY and we have fundamental rights that they cannot deny us. The whole thing has been a psychological grooming operation. NO arrest or fine made under the “Coronavirus Act” stands up in court because you cannot take away the rights of people. It’s all clever smoke and mirrors with wording like “reasonable excuse” and “unless it is exceptional circumstances”. It’s is ALL voluntary and people have been duped into doing it voluntarily. This must STOP now! Lockdowns are an abusive ELITIST luxury that are wonderful for the public servants (SERVANTS remember… our taxes pay for them to sit all day in their pyjamas in their home offices ordering Deliveroo!) and the tech industry workers and the journalists and politicians and wealthy. They also don’t affect key workers who can carry on AND get called “heroes” (did you know key workers are allowed to go on holiday but not us).… Read more »

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karenovirus
karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  CivilianNotCovidian

Excellent summary but as an out & about key worker I am indeed allowed to take leave as usual but can no more ‘go on holiday’ than anyone else.

When on leave I am supposedly subject to the same ‘essential journey only’ restrictions as others are.

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CivilianNotCovidian
CivilianNotCovidian
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

That info came from an AirBnB place that said they were open for “keyworkers” only… and also I hope I didn’t cause any offence – I’m hugely respectful and supportive of people who don’t capitalise on the weird pedestalising of keyworkers. Many I know are truly embarrassed of the clapping and rainbows!!

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TJS123
TJS123
4 years ago
Reply to  CivilianNotCovidian

Likewise I’m a key worker and agree with karenovirus. The B&B’s were open for workers in risky jobs to stay away from their families, near their place of work, not for jolly holidays!

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karenovirus
karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  TJS123

Quite so and for builders working away from home and people travelling to attend job interviews.

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Annie
Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Holiday accommodation owners hereabouts are desperate to get ‘key workers’ in, because it’s the only income they can get. The ‘key workers’ certainly aren’t lazing about on the beach. They are working long hours, by day or by night or both.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  CivilianNotCovidian

No offence taken, I’m not NHS and I didn’t clap.

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Bungle
Bungle
4 years ago
Reply to  CivilianNotCovidian

Just like when I ran courses for the armed forces,they hated the phrase ‘Help for Heroes’. As far as they were concerned they were well-paid professional people,not a charity case.

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Jinks
Jinks
4 years ago
Reply to  CivilianNotCovidian

Everyone needs to get a copy of Black’s Dictionary of Law. People are intentionally dis-informed and mis-educated.

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FedupofLies
FedupofLies
4 years ago
Reply to  CivilianNotCovidian

Actors? They are SCUM and I have no respect for their woke, anti-white profession.

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Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  FedupofLies

Interesting story about that. The new Dunkirk film (in which I have some personal interest) was tipped to do well at the Oscars. As I remember, in the end they didn’t win one single award. Apparently, there were not enough black people in it, and worse, it was white men’s history. Never mind that it would have been pretty bad for black people if the German empire of the time had won the war, and the part played by commonwealth countries like Tanganyika (happy commonwealth day!). Never mind that they would likely have been in power for many years longer if things had gone badly at Dunkirk (as the film’s historical advisor pointed out). Never mind that the miracle of Dunkirk was one of the most important events for the civilised world in the twentieth century. Apparently Nolan’s film doesn’t fit in with the narrative of these people. Shamefully, there was a story of a northern local councillor who opined that the UK was just a junior partner in the second world war. But there might not have been much of a war left to fight if Britain hadn’t managed to carry on after Dunkirk. That reminds me – at… Read more »

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JohnB
JohnB
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Hi Hugh

Shamefully, there was a story of a northern local councillor who opined that the UK was just a junior partner in the second world war.

We didn’t go through anything quite like Stalingrad, did we ?

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FedupofLies
FedupofLies
4 years ago
Reply to  CivilianNotCovidian

FUCK the NHS!

Now these filthy money grubbing bastards want a pay rise?

I look into their eyes and I SPIT IN THEIR FACE!

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Puddleglum
Puddleglum
4 years ago
Reply to  FedupofLies

I don’t think that they particularly want a pay rise. More likely it is a situation being deliberately engineered by the Government to get the nurses out on strike so that lockdown can be maintained in the face of falling death statistics.

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gone_loopy
gone_loopy
4 years ago
Reply to  Puddleglum

Of course people want pay rises. Its expensive living here in th uk

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katz
katz
4 years ago
Reply to  Puddleglum

The teaching unions will love having another reason to keep schools closed in order to support the nurses’ strikes.

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gone_loopy
gone_loopy
4 years ago
Reply to  FedupofLies

You are an absolute nut job

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Jinks
Jinks
4 years ago
Reply to  FedupofLies

Not used NHS apart from childbirth since my 20’s. Worked within it, saw many reasons to never trust it. Grand waste, low standards, poor quality, chumocracy executive, incapable of taking responsibility, mass murder by neglect/malice/hubris/laziness. And now you can add genocide to the list.

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Victoria
Victoria
4 years ago
Reply to  Jinks

Great post. So true

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
4 years ago
Reply to  CivilianNotCovidian

The whole thing has been a psychological grooming operation. NO arrest or fine made under the “Coronavirus Act” stands up in court because you cannot take away the rights of people. It’s all clever smoke and mirrors with wording like “reasonable excuse” and “unless it is exceptional circumstances”. It’s is ALL voluntary and people have been duped into doing it voluntarily. This must STOP now!

This!!! ^^^^^

The UK Medical Freedom Alliance made this point in their open letter when it came to the mask mandate. The exemptions are in there in black & white but they’re so poorly communicated to the police and public and that’s why we’ve been having these incidents of harassment and bullying of those who can’t and won’t wear masks. It’s despicable.

I get tumbleweed everytime I ask lockdownistas if there was a genuine pandemic why do the government need threats, fines, Munchuasen Syndrome by Proxy adverts, etc? Should it be self evident?

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stewart
stewart
4 years ago

Vaccine Passports = Science Denial Restricting travel and public life based on vaccine passports denies the existence of our natural immune system. It implies that the human body is not capable of creating immunity to this new disease by itself and can only do so by artificial means. In fact, not just vaccine passports but the whole response to the coronavirus around the world has been based on this idea.  This is so unscientific a belief that one could almost call it medieval. Not only does the human immune system actually exist, in the vast majority of cases it either has immunity already to this new virus or is capable of creating it very quickly. The human immune system is so powerful and complicated a system that medical scientists still don’t fully understand how it works. They even have trouble measuring its effects. Doctors and public health officials have relied on it as the principal tool for ensuring our health despite their limited understanding of it because to do otherwise would be a denial of reality. Until last year that is, when politicians and public health officials around the world instructed everyone to behave as if the human immune system… Read more »

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Freecumbria
Freecumbria
4 years ago
Reply to  stewart

On the naming issue perhaps we should call them Immune System Rejection Passports?

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stewart
stewart
4 years ago
Reply to  Freecumbria

Like it: Immune System Denial Scheme

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Prof Feargoeson
Prof Feargoeson
4 years ago
Reply to  stewart

The irony is such people will be framed as Science-deniers, Luddites and Flat-Earthers.

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Jinks
Jinks
4 years ago
Reply to  Prof Feargoeson

I’m proud to be called a Biblical flat-Earther, and I saw this shitshow coming in January 2020.

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Janette
Janette
4 years ago
Reply to  stewart

The thing that I can’t understand is that the biggest number of deaths from this alleged virus was last March/April and deaths have been coming down ever since so why oh why do people not just stop and think why do I need a vaccine and what are the benefits to me. If they really did this then I am sure the vast majority would not bother having it.

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stewart
stewart
4 years ago
Reply to  Janette

Do you remember back last spring when “I’ve had it so I’m fine now” was a thing?

It is as if the last year has been used to brainwash people into thinking their immune systems are as good as useless, do not produce any antibodies worth considering and that only vaccination can create immunity.

It is truly monstrous what these so called scientists are peddling.

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Jinks
Jinks
4 years ago
Reply to  stewart

Not scientists. Scientismists

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FerdIII
FerdIII
4 years ago
Reply to  stewart

“Like many modern day products, the artificially produced immunity will quickly become obsolete and require regular updates. Possibly as frequently as every 6 months. The natural immune system is adaptive not just to this new virus but most new disease producing viruses. It updates itself automatically”

That is the point. Jab EXPERIMENTAL DRUGS every 6 months minimum. More during the Flu season (variants, scary ones, big ones, flying ones).

They don’t stop transmission at all. No evidence exists of this. 15 K dead since Feb 1 after 95% of the over 70s were jabbed….so who died and why? Was it from the jab or is the jab simple not effective? (1% of the population only, will die from the flu every year, so 99% will not, if I jabbed the 99% who will never die and declare 95% effectiveness I am a data charlatan).

Flu vaxxes have 60 years of failure. They don’t work. Even the Fake News will print this every year (flu vaxxes only 10% effective etc).

So why the drugs? And why a passport for a flu with 99.7% survival? What is the point? Do they sheeple even have the mental acuity to ask such questions?

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Bella Donna
Bella Donna
4 years ago
Reply to  FerdIII

I fear most people are already brain dead and unable to think for themselves. A communistic style life suits them.

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PastImperfect
PastImperfect
4 years ago
Reply to  stewart

The virus doesn’t kill healthy hosts, but …

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Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  stewart

Ah, there’s the name for the vaccine passport – the immune system denier’s permit!

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PatrickF
PatrickF
4 years ago

Is Boris Johnson responsible for my health? No, I am. Am I responsible for Boris Johnson’s health? No, he is.
For my health I will not take the vaccine.

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stewart
stewart
4 years ago
Reply to  PatrickF

That is how it should be but isn’t.

Boris Johnson has taken away your responsibility for your health and given it to himself.

How do you feel about a self serving politician who has trouble keeping himself healthy dictating your health decisions to you?

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PatrickF
PatrickF
4 years ago
Reply to  stewart

His policies have caused my panic attacks, resulting in a day spent on hospital. I’m still learning how to cope. Some days are better than others. No panic attacks in my 60 years on this earth, prior to April 2020 when I had a physical and mental collapse.

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gipsy2222
gipsy2222
4 years ago
Reply to  PatrickF

If you suffer panic attacks please look up the work of Dr Claire Weekes. Her books have really helped members of my family. I hope you learn to deal with the panic attacks, it is possible.

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Saved To Death
Saved To Death
4 years ago
Reply to  stewart

Johnston cannot take away responsibility for your health from you.

He can give orders to others to violate your liberty. All that does is make him a tyrant – not responsible for your health. The reality is he himself is following the orders of people that want to kill and enslave you.

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Skippy
Skippy
4 years ago
Reply to  PatrickF

I insist on giving my vaccine to handoncock or the blonde spaffer with podgy old lady hands.

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Ned of the Hills
Ned of the Hills
4 years ago

That there video of Mr. Fox speaking at the top of the page?

Why all that drumming? Why’s it there? Who chose it? From whence was it obtained?

I’m constantly asking these questions but nary an answer do I ever get?

I have a cure for it though – I switch off. Is that the outcome that’s being sought?

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alw
alw
4 years ago
Reply to  Ned of the Hills

If you want sanity restored then Lozza Fox is the man. Quit whinging and help put things right.

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Jinks
Jinks
4 years ago
Reply to  alw

Why? Apart from LD, and his anti-woke agenda, what’s he hot yo offer? Genuine question, as, apart from his notoriety, and visibility, I don’t see what else he has to offer. If he’s genuine, why not work with David Kuerten? How is it helpful to split the vote, which it’s bound to do?

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gipsy2222
gipsy2222
4 years ago
Reply to  Jinks

Agree. What does some luvvie know about running anything? Our current PM shows the danger of electing someone popular yet completely unsuitable.

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Ned of the Hills
Ned of the Hills
4 years ago
Reply to  Ned of the Hills

I’ll answer my own question. In this instance I can perceive some purpose. It is a drum beat. I think it is an allusive to the drums that were drummed as soldiers went in to battle. And Mr. Fox is truly going in to battle.

It might be fitting for marching in to enemy fire – but not I think for giving a speech.

I think there is little doubt he would get my vote were I living in London. But I live nigh on as far as one can live from London and yet still be in England.

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alw
alw
4 years ago

“Vaccine Passports Make a Mockery of Consent”
Indeed they do. I am travelling abroad in June, a special trip booked 2 years ago and vaccine passports are required by this country otherwise 2 weeks quarantine. Checked for other countries and similar, seems one cannot escape this lunacy, so with the greatest reluctance going for my first jab next week. I shall be making it quite clear to the person who administers the jab that whilst I consent to it it is being done by coercion which falls foul of legitimate consent and contravenes the Nuremberg Code.

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Jinks
Jinks
4 years ago
Reply to  alw

If you tell that to the death-jab dealer, they’re duty-bound to refuse to “treat” you. Though, they’re probably so ignorant of said duty, they’ll death-jab you anyway. I wish you well.

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BeBopRockSteady
BeBopRockSteady
4 years ago
Reply to  alw

Then they won’t administer it. Otherwise they truly are idiots.

You really should delay or postpone your trip in my view.

Last edited 4 years ago by BeBopRockSteady
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mattghg
mattghg
4 years ago

This is possibly the most disappointing ATL leading item so far. David Kurten is by far the better anti-lockdown mayoral candidate. He’s been an AM for years, he’s been on demos and he’s tried to hold Khan accountable for police brutality. All Fox has done is tweet, plus he’s compromised by his stance on the “vaccines”.

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Jinks
Jinks
4 years ago
Reply to  mattghg

It’s very telling, isn’t it?

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alw
alw
4 years ago
Reply to  mattghg

David Kurten although he presents well has some views that I and many others find off putting.

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FerdIII
FerdIII
4 years ago
Reply to  alw

Unlike the Muslim mayor and his anti english racism. You find that comforting.

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Jinks
Jinks
4 years ago
Reply to  FerdIII

He’d never have won without the corrupt postal vote, and ballot-harvesting by his munshees.

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Jinks
Jinks
4 years ago
Reply to  alw

Ah, but Pfeffle and Stammer’s thinking is so right-on, yay. There can be no diversity of opinion, eh? I took my children to Gay Pride, back in the day, when it wasn’t a glorified sex-show, and I don’t care what his personal beliefs are. He wants the Law upheld and recognises individual sovereignty. The worst he’d do is cut virtue-signalling funding, scrap cycle-lanes and inappropriate green initiatives sack diversity officers. But, we might just actually get an accountable police that actually prevent real crime, and protect the public.

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gina
gina
4 years ago
Reply to  alw

Too true, unfortunately.

Last edited 4 years ago by gina
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JayBee
JayBee
4 years ago
Reply to  mattghg

Fox has 5 million quid to ‘spend’….

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Ned of the Hills
Ned of the Hills
4 years ago

On Radio 4’s News this morn if I recall aright a nursing union is pressing for better PPE in hospitals – principally (again rightly) better masks, ones which are more effective.

This is a difficult bit of information to present to the public because it is basically telling them all those millions and millions of masks they’ve spent so much money on are not effective. So what to do?

It is explained the masks that are wanted are to protect against aerosols implying your bog standard mask is providing providing protection against means by which the virus travels about in the air.

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FerdIII
FerdIII
4 years ago
Reply to  Ned of the Hills

Oxygen is also air borne. So now the fascists feel a need to control ‘aerosols’. None of these clowns can provide any evidence how the Flu-Rona spreads. Most of it is spread in Hospitals (60% of the dead), the rest in Nursing Homes. Not read any of the ‘science’ from the ‘scientists’ why that happens. If I am not in a Hospital or Nursing why the hell do I need a diaper?

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Ossettian
Ossettian
4 years ago
Reply to  FerdIII

Spread in places with shared toilets and incontinent people….

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straightalkingyorkshireman
straightalkingyorkshireman
4 years ago
Reply to  Ossettian

Time for a plug…

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mj
mj
4 years ago
Reply to  Ned of the Hills

the existing PPE looks to be too restrictive to do TikTok dances in.. Clearly need something with more elasticity – spandex, silk, gossamer that allows for full movement

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Ben Shirley
Ben Shirley
4 years ago

Cronyism on the front page? “Politics abhors a vacuum and it looks as though a leader has emerged.” Is LS unaware that David Kurten and his Heritage Party have been campaigning extensively for the London Assembly and local elections over the past few months? Furthermore, Kurten is an experienced politician with a properly developed manifesto, and he’s spent the previous year going to protests, talking to members of the public, being hassled by the police and interrogating Sadiq Khan about his cruel and absurd policies in interviews that really deserve far more publicity. As far as I know, all Fox’s work consists of is going through the same repertoire of posts on Twitter and spending money lavishly on fancy films wherein he is moodily lit. I don’t doubt he’s sincere in his pro-freedom, anti-woke beliefs but he is a bit of a single-issue candidate, too. I know Kurten’s social conservatism won’t be to everyone’s taste but he has been putting a lot of work into the anti-lockdown cause and is, in my opinion, the candidate most deserving of the Mayoral seat and also the best equipped for the job. The Heritage Party had a good chance of getting several seats… Read more »

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DanClarke
DanClarke
4 years ago
Reply to  Ben Shirley

Kurten sounds like a good man and Lockdown’s will likely end, to a certain extent, so what will Fox stand for then.

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FerdIII
FerdIII
4 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

LDs won’t end. They will roll them in the future. Starting this Fall. The Fake Data won’t end this May.

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jonathan Palmer
jonathan Palmer
4 years ago
Reply to  FerdIII

June 21 was the earliest date given and it that was reliant on a number of factors.Furlough until September is a big indicator that this will not end then.

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FerdIII
FerdIII
4 years ago
Reply to  Ben Shirley

Heritage, Reclaim, Reform are all anti-LD. Kurten is excellent and I have no problem with his social conservatism. Look at what the opposite gives us….Burn Loot Murder, civil destruction, historical Marxism revisioning, He is a She, She is a He, and Muhammadans are peace loving innovators. Shyte all of it.

I thoiught Fox was national…not local, so your complaints are justified.

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richardw53
richardw53
4 years ago
Reply to  FerdIII

United we stand, divided we fall.

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mattghg
mattghg
4 years ago
Reply to  Ben Shirley

I agree 💯%

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Liberty
Liberty
4 years ago

My church is only open for a Covid compliant service, so we shall worship at home again this week. Instead of church in a building, we spend one weekday with our volunteer friends here on our little farm working the land, singing to the Lord, praying and fellowshipping. Man was made to work, but he was also made to worship. Many worship the NHS, as for me and my house, we worship the Living God.

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mj
mj
4 years ago
Reply to  Liberty

not a religious person myself… but you do the right thing for your faith. You are more in touch with your God there than you would be sitting in a dingy old building and being led by an out of touch political and irreligious church. who for years have forgotten what their purpose is.

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Liberty
Liberty
4 years ago
Reply to  mj

Thank you for showing respect for my faith, I really appreciate that. I agree that many pew warmers do not know the Living God at all. Many just sit, listen and leave, their hearts unchanged. Jesus would hate that and would call out those luke warm churches. If we believe in a God who came to earth, died and lives in us by his Holy Spirit, how can we be luke warm? We are seeing right now, through these lockdowns, who the real Christians are. Many will fall away from the church as their Sunday habit has been disturbed, their faith has been replaced with the NHS and their fear filled hearts have left no space for God. They are the sort of people who turn people off church, the same hypocrites that Jesus spoke of, with a form of religious behaviour, but no heart for God and his children. True Christians love ‘til it hurts, give ‘til it hurts and find joy in the service of others. Nothing shakes our foundation of hope, not even Covid and the evil regime it brings with it. The true church is firing up for its role in bringing hope to the lost,… Read more »

Last edited 4 years ago by Liberty
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Jinks
Jinks
4 years ago
Reply to  Liberty

I’m not religious, but have absolute faith in the power of prayer and fellowship. Church can never beat Creation itself. You have an infinitely superior church. You’d find Jesus in a gathering such as this, not in some noncey/poncey building.

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
4 years ago
Reply to  Liberty

Well done you!! I’ve always felt that the churches have failed people.

Christians who are anti-lockdown and dismayed with their Church’s supine kowtowing to the government should do like the early Christians and take back control.

Revive the DIY house churches.

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Margaret
Margaret
4 years ago

Once the first lockdown ended last June our grandson, who comes to us every other weekend and during holidays, has been playing with the children of neighbours. They run in and out of each other’s houses, totally carefree, lockdown or not. We are lucky to live in a quiet cul-de-sac.
This weekend, even the policeman’s son, who lives a few doors away, has been joining in with them, breaking all the “rules” of course.
People here are deciding for themselves that this is all over.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Margaret

Good for them.

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DanClarke
DanClarke
4 years ago

Is it June when they can, as per agreement, declare the pandemic over and begin to make a profit. Once you get the promotion over and most people thinking this product was good they will come back for more.

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Freecumbria
Freecumbria
4 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

Certainly big profits in the long term.

But the pharmaceutical companies allocate a disproportionate amount of expenses to their experimental vaccines and make a profit that way. They are already making a profit.

Last edited 4 years ago by Freecumbria
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Bella Donna
Bella Donna
4 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

I believe its July they want to start making a profit.

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SimonCook
SimonCook
4 years ago

Wendy Williams standing up for her right to decide what she puts in her body

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBAFyHfKsdE

–

My wife sent me this (she keeps an eye on Hollywood celebrity gossip!) and I thought it was well worth sharing. For those that don’t know Wendy Williams is a very well-known US chat show host.

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Edward
Edward
4 years ago
Reply to  SimonCook

It’s not Wendy O Williams who was a porn star and in a terrible fake punk band called The Plasmatics? No, she’s dead.

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PoshPanic
PoshPanic
4 years ago

If not posted already, this really is a contender for most idiotic, insensitive Tik Tok routine and it’s seriously crowded field.

https://twitter.com/DonnyBr40072043/status/1368349378407174150

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Robin Birch
Robin Birch
4 years ago
Reply to  PoshPanic

Gormless lot. They just don’t see it.

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Ewan Duffy
Ewan Duffy
4 years ago
Reply to  PoshPanic

I’m sure all of those “non-essential” businesses in Mayo are delighted and motivated by this spectacle.

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PoshPanic
PoshPanic
4 years ago
Reply to  Ewan Duffy

Exactly. We’ve been shut down for a year, for a supposed emergency, yet all across the world, we’re seeing this shit from hospitals. I’m sure a lot of their colleagues are probably equally pissed off with this.

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Silke David
Silke David
4 years ago
Reply to  PoshPanic

I could not even watch it to the end. How awful! What a mockery!
Good that they got a backlash!

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Two-Six
Two-Six
4 years ago
Reply to  PoshPanic

Totally taking the piss

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Crystal Decanter
Crystal Decanter
4 years ago

Voice of Wales now over on Gab after getting Das Boot from YewTube

https://gab.com/groups/26554

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Ovis
Ovis
4 years ago

In my suburb, like most I imagine, the physical propaganda is well coordinated. There are small signs on the lamp posts that say only: ‘Do the right thing for [name of suburb]’ with a tiny reference to Covid, just so you know what is meant. But this is supplemented by a vast (12′ x 2’6″; 4m x 80cm) banner explaining exactly what the ‘right thing for [name of suburb] is: shunning human contact, wearing a gimp gag, etc. The vast banner is, or rather was, on the railings of a children’s play park. It’s a fairly busy path for walkers, but also putting the banner there was probably intended to warn parents who had brought their children to play off talking to each other. Maybe also intended to normalise Covid rules for children. Anyway, the point is this. Late on Friday night, someone edited that banner with a marker pen. Nothing obscene. Just replacing the instructions not to mix and to wear a mask with more socially responsible suggestions. By Saturday afternoon that banner had disappeared. That cannot have been the work of freelance Covidian members of the public. The damned thing was strongly attached, and what would a responsible… Read more »

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disgruntled246
disgruntled246
4 years ago
Reply to  Ovis

All these banners around remind me of visiting East Berlin in the early 80s.

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Silke David
Silke David
4 years ago
Reply to  Ovis

Well done to the people who adjusted the words.
I have been out with my pen this last week, and noticed the other day one of the adjusted signs is gone. Of course do not know if it is because someone did not like my adjustment or the whole sign.
But like your, it has nit just been ripped off, but the cable ties removed. Other signs are still up and have been for weeks.

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Edward
Edward
4 years ago
Reply to  Ovis

I’ve written “End lockdown!” or something similar on the shiny laminated timetable notices at bus stops. There’s usually a convenient bit of white space on which to put it. When passing later I often find that somebody has rubbed it off, but there’s one which is still there about 3 months after I wrote it.

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
4 years ago
Reply to  Ovis

I used to write Vernon Coleman’s mantra on top of the Covid signs in toilet cubicles:

DISTRUST THE GOVERNMENT

AVOID MASS MEDIA

FIGHT THE LIES

That was when restaurants and cafes were still open. I’ve noticed that public toilets have been careful not to put any Covid signs, probably knowing full well that they can be defaced.

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Crystal Decanter
Crystal Decanter
4 years ago

Homework:
Let’s see if we can get the collaborators to plug up for the common good

analplug.jpg
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Prof Feargoeson
Prof Feargoeson
4 years ago
Reply to  Crystal Decanter

As Moderna would say: Plug and Play (your part.)

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isobar
isobar
4 years ago
Reply to  Prof Feargoeson

Wish that I had thought of that!

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Crystal Decanter
Crystal Decanter
4 years ago
Reply to  Prof Feargoeson

Don’t be a bugger
Be a plugger

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mj
mj
4 years ago
Reply to  Crystal Decanter

Tag line “Put a cork in it!!”

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PoshPanic
PoshPanic
4 years ago
Reply to  Crystal Decanter

Just need some designer names on board. Different sizes, shapes, colours and textures would be useful too.

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WeAllFallDown
WeAllFallDown
4 years ago
Reply to  PoshPanic

Don’t forget the ditzy print.

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Crystal Decanter
Crystal Decanter
4 years ago
Reply to  Crystal Decanter

Do your part
plug that fart

the possibilities are rear endless

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