Has Boris lost his faith in the vaccines? That’s certainly the impression you’d get from what he has said this morning. Speaking in 10 Downing Street, the Prime Minister said:
The numbers are down – of infections and hospitalisations and deaths. But it is very, very important for everybody to understand that the reduction in these numbers – in hospitalisations and in deaths and infections – has not been achieved by the vaccination programme. People don’t, I think, appreciate that it’s the lockdown that has been overwhelmingly important in delivering this improvement in the pandemic and in the figures that we’re seeing. And so, yes of course the vaccination programme has helped, but the bulk of the work in reducing the disease has been done by the lockdown. So, as we unlock, the result will inevitably be that we will see more infection, sadly we will see more hospitalisation and deaths, and people have just got to understand that.
Notice that he didn’t say it’s a matter of waiting for the vaccines to take effect. It now appears that, regardless of vaccinations operating at full power, the Prime Minister thinks “inevitably” we will see more infection, hospitalisation and death.
The PM added that “at the moment” he couldn’t see “any reason” to change his roadmap for easing lockdown restrictions.
At Lockdown Sceptics, of course, we can give him several reasons for getting a move on. Florida, Texas, Georgia, South Dakota, South Carolina and Mississippi for starters. These states all currently have no restrictions at all, whether because they never had them (South Dakota), because they removed them after the first wave in the spring (Georgia and South Carolina) or in the autumn (Florida), or because they lifted them in the last few weeks (Mississippi and Texas). If lockdown is what brings infections down, what has brought them down in these states?
The claim that lockdowns “control” the coronavirus has no basis in the data or in the evidence-based (as opposed to model-based) scientific literature. No evidence-based study has found a statistically significant relationship between the severity or timing of interventions and Covid cases or death counts. It is “fake news”, to use the current parlance, and scientists and politicians need to stop repeating it as though doing so can make it true.
Looking just at the UK, it’s clear from the data that new daily infections peaked and began to fall before the lockdowns on all three occasions. Chris Whitty even admitted as much to MPs in July in relation to the first lockdown.
According to ONS data, new infections in the winter surge in England peaked in the week ending December 26th, nearly two weeks before the January lockdown and right in the middle of Christmas mingling that was predicted to cause a spike.
If lockdowns control the coronavirus then how can this be explained?
On one level it should be welcome that Boris is candidly admitting that the vaccines will not prevent all infections, hospitalisations and deaths. But then no one ever thought they would. The aim was just to make endemic Covid no worse than the usual pathogens we face, which many people believed requires effective vaccines. Now we have vaccines, there is no excuse not to lift restrictions, particularly seeing that places which have remained fully open even without vaccines have not seen catastrophic consequences, and often fared better than places with strict lockdowns.
COVID-19 outbreaks have consistently shown themselves to be self-limiting, regardless of what measures are or are not imposed. In some places the outbreaks are more severe, in some places less so. As with other similar seasonal respiratory pathogens this will be due to a combination of seasonality, the development of population immunity (including from vaccines, where available), the effectiveness of treatments, population density, and numerous other factors that might affect a population’s susceptibility to a particular pathogen. But on no occasion have the models attributing the differences to lockdowns been validated by empirical data.
As the Government appears to be preparing to pivot away from its vaccines-will-save-us narrative, the big danger is that what we get instead is not a freedom that accepts governments cannot prevent all evils, but a future of indefinite restrictions, periodically tightened and loosened, as the myth persists that only such measures are holding back the flood. If we are no longer to see the vaccines as our saviour, it is imperative that the Government shift to a zero restrictions approach, not a zero Covid one, and set us free without further delay.
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He’s lost it. He’s completely lost it. He needs to be removed. His actions and thoughts (or inaction and stupidity) are dangerous. He, Boris, is dangerous.
So?, to stop seasonal viruses, we have to have various levels of lockdown on a permanent basis.
Give us freedom or give us death!!!
Don’t tempt them.
They are already giving You Death.
They are Whitty’s words delivered by Bunter. Reading between the lines over many weeks it is clear Whitty is not as convinced these potions are the panacea, as many of his underlings who are on speedcall to the BBC. So he clings to the totally failed CCP shutdown policy.
One question the journalistic parasites should ask “Why didn’t you expand the NDS capacity in the winter Mr Johnson.”
Very true but the problem is who do we replace him with? Everyone else who would be in the running is equally stupid and dangerous.
They’re not stupid, but they’re definitely dangerous.
agree
Any of the remaining Monty Python members, or Rowan Atkinson? Although the clown in the Ukraine is not that funny, a comedia would be a mych deserved change in direction.
But Boris is the only one who has Princess Nut Nut whispering sweet nothings in his ear
Here in Belgium we have had several periods of ‘no government’ as for various reasons a government couldn’t be formed. I believe the longest period was 589 days. We seemed to do fine. I think the U.K. might be better if with no government that this lot.
Carl Hennigan?
CRG leading guys. Baker?
I am SO disappointed by Rees Mogg and Braverman.
You’d have to get rid of Gove and Hancock. According to JHB yesterday, it’s those two who are running the show and bullying Boris into doing what they want.
And we know that Give has been cosying up to Tony Blair who wants global vaccine passports, and Hancock is on board with the WEF Global Reset agenda.
Gove just an opportunist snake who makes Brutus look a paragon of loyalty. Hancock is just plain thick. A health Secretary who believes malaria is infectious!
Thick but very ambitious. Job in the WEF eventually dangling in front of him?
Not at all JustMe… Bojo is fully on message with this rolling Great Reset agenda, to totally crush the old normal carbon heavy consumerist ways… LOCKDOWNS are vital for destroying old habits, like flitting over to Benidorm for two weeks summer sun. The horror, the horror. Staycations preferably within 20 miles or so of your home is very much the new normal way to behave, and if you absolutely must go somewhere FFS, it has to be on electric bicycles or trains. This idyllic Eco future of wishful thinking for the deplorable classes, has been dreamt up by a load of uber rich oligarchs and politicos with copious amounts of HNW assets, but not a lot of street-smart common sense… [Its important watch Saint Greta’s Part 1 BBC prime time commercial for Build Back Better was on last night, P2 & 3 to follow] What the WEF has created in fact is a suicide pact template for the 99% of those societies being currently remodelled. Meanwhile, as the said/same real-time economies of these afflicted nations accelerate ever onward toward hyperinflation – hence cryptos are in rocket-ship ascendancies – tis why CBDC is also a defacto guaranteed reality, with key-stroke created digio-wallet-coins… Read more »
Close – but no cake. It is much, much worse. Plandemic/lockdown = total distraction from what is unfolding April 13th onward. Fasten Your seatbelts, put You head between Your knees and kiss Your proverbial good bye. It’s a Challenger like event.
It’s a Challenger like event…?
Really… Jeez I can’t wait. How exciting!
And though that predicted NASA fail was an awesome firework display for sure, with tragic consequences for a dozen or so families, hardly earth shattering…. And it didn’t cost the UK economy £500m in losses every 24hrs, as this current covidian kult debacle has been doing.
Chinese going for it in Taiwan? Nope I don’t think that will also mean I kiss my sweet arse good-bye this next week or three.
No my dear… what would bitch slap me to attention would be the Vogons arriving in our heavens spheres with their Constructor Fleet… complete with the loudhailer announcements:
“People of Earth, your attention, please…!”
Though ideally barked out in a Klaus Schwabian Nazi throwback style, for more dramatic effect.
You never know?
The Pentagon are announcing their official UAPs update in June.
Actually, I’d be happy to board a Vogon cruiser. My Felines? Not so sure. Plus, without Babelfish it would be challenging.
Challenger. Yes, tragic. But the background of my statement. A Challenger like event is where everybody is watching and then it all blows up.
Today I finished my testament/last will. Two signatures from witnesses and I am ready to go.
But thanks for the bout of optimism. I understand and appreciate its value. Although it hasn’t graced my mind for nine years.
I’m prepared for the Vogons, I’ve got my trusty towel !
In the words of Italian partisans during WW2, Bella Ciao!
What??? There are another 2 parts – each an hour long – on primetime TV of Ghastly Greta??? Kill me now.
A few massive solar flares and everything is fecked anyway
Well, I agree with everything you say; however, getting rid of him would probably make no difference to the current totalitarian projectory.
Not really, we had an outbreak (wife involved) a group with a five first AZ vaccination (all between 1 and 3 months ago. All got symptomatic (some bad), 4 then passed it onto family members a couple of whom also had a first dose of AZ. One person with a previous covid infection and one first vaccination Pf did not get symptomatic (but the Pf ended up with a suspicious chest infection)
I suspect by winter the AZ will be as effective as a wet fart and just the only thing holding back a resurgence currently is reduced mobility and seasonal variations.
The ultimate lessons are obviously going to be Lockdowns can delay the spread while forcing a virus to become more infectious. Vaccinating like crazy in summer will guarantee a vaccine evading dominant strains has time to evolve and become dominant for winter.
Did you all test positive on rtPCR ? Did you have antibody tests? I have always had difficulty understanding the basis on vaccinating those who have had Covid 19, especially in severe form like BORIS. If natural immunity including T cell etc is being established with RNA or adeno virus related vaccines against the spike protein a vaccine is not required if you have been naturally exposed to the spike protein. Like many elderly clinicians I had florid side effects after the AZ first injection ; is this related to innate response? I am not certain your concern about the virulence of new strains being a concern for a plethora or reasons but critical investigation. of efficacy of vaccines should be mandatory and the vaccination of the under 16 deemed unethical unless long term benefit is established.
TEST?? We were not that stupid!
Quite so. The psy-ops campaign against the very idea of natural immunity has been extremely worrying from the start.
Dangerous, incompetent and an enemy of the people. He has to go.
Just saw the headline and went to BTL.
what has Boris been taking? LSD, ganja, magic mushrooms? Take yer pick
We really are so lucky to have such a brilliant person so willing to dedicate his life for the benefit of our society NOT!
REMOVED
Given that SAGE members are mostly left wing, are they feeding this because they don’t want Boris to get the political credit for the vaccine? Just a thought.
“Given that SAGE members are mostly left wing …”
Oh FFS! We know that becoming a moron is associated with becoming a moron, but putting the symptom on display isn’t a good look.
Aren’t they?
Unless you have evidence to the contrary.
That’s more like it. Good article.
So, lockdowns are the cure? As we lift them, “inevitably” we will see more infection, hospitalisation and death.” So, we’ll need more lockdowns, then, won’t we?
Position your lock down next to already falling figures, then claim that lockdown did the trick, so you can have more of them. You really do think we’re thick, don’t you, Bunter?
Problem is Sam, that yes, millions of our fellow countrymen and women ARE THAT THICK AND IN FACT, QUITE A NUMBER ARE EVEN THICKER.
FP, you are sadlieright.
Sleepwalking to oblivion
Are we nearly there yet?
It’s true. If you consider how thick the average person really is, then realise that 50% of the people are thicker…
“You really do think we’re thick, don’t you, Bunter?”
Weeelll … you’ve got to admit that he’s some grounds for betting that way ….
Very good article
The question now is how the information it contains can best be widely disseminated?
Any ideas on a comment please
If there was one lesson which should have been learned over the last year, it is that Government is not all-powerful, and more Government isn’t the solution to every problem. You’d have thought that this wasn’t a lesson that the leader of the Conservative Party would need to learn, but then Boris Johnson is not a conservative – he is simply a principle-free zone, an opportunist looking after himself. The virus has ebbed and flowed in much the same way across the world regardless of what governments have and haven’t done, according to the seasons and the typical patterns of existing respiratory viruses. Entirely predictable for anyone with any knowledge of virology or epidemiology, or indeed anyone with a knowledge of history or who has lived through previous actual epidemics (1958, 1968). A contagious respiratory virus is always just going to do its thing. The best we can do is stay home if we are ill, protect the vulnerable, identify existing medicines which are helpful in prevention and treatment but, for the most part, carry on as normal such that the young and healthy catch the disease and we achieve herd immunity quickly so that we get the epidemic over… Read more »
Ha ha ha ha, hang on while I stop laughing, which of the faces of Janus are we talking to today? “On one level it should be welcome that Boris is candidly admitting that the vaccines will not prevent all infection…etc, but then no one thought they would.”
Really? Are you serious? Do any of you ATL actually read what you’ve been printing recently?
it’s been a major Vaxx love fest here!
Please make your minds up!!!
As i have just said to the reasonable bloke who called me from the NHS “immunization dept” – i
m holding off getting this "vaccine" because i dont trust this wretched government of liars and scum and esp its communist sage advisors. Every week/day there is a moving of the goalposts, today it is now the fat globalist cretin saying the continual use of the failed lockdowns is what “saved us” and not the dodgy vaccines after all.What was his reply?
Could I borrow your lines if/when I’m summoned for a prick…in the arm? Says everything I want to say.
Well done. I got as far as ‘ I think I’ll leave it becau…’ and they hung up. Either they didn’t want to hear it or they were sick of hearing it. They’ve not tried again so I’m wondering what the plan is for first offer decliners? Are they going to keep phoning like an annoying call centre or is the Vax bus going to pull up outside? Gotta love the Vax bus. Should paint on the side ‘ adds £350 billion to national debt every week’
Jeez – you get more sense out of a shopping trolley than this government. I’ve lost count of the U-turns, the moved goalposts, the contradictory statements. They really don’t have the faintest idea what they’re doing, do they?
Well, that assumes any of this is about public health – which looks less and less likely by the day. If our government’s response didn’t have such serious and catastrophic consequences this whole surreal pantomime would be quite entertaining. As it is, it has been a tragedy of colossal proportions. They really do have blood on their hands.
The current pub rules are a complete classic. Insanity you can only laugh at, unless you rely on it for your living.
I keep reading that people need to book to go to the pub, is that government rule/guidance or just informal advice given how busy they expect to be ?
Funny how South Africa had the exact same December/January curve with everything functioning, mandatory masking (useless), curfew from 11pm – 4pm and closed beaches ( to stop drinking parties). No vaccine, of course.
Another asbestos underwear fitting for Johnson, presumably because he’s been listening to The Usual Suspects. As far as fence-sitting and bet-hedging is concerned, Starmer and this monster of deceit are mirror reflections of each other. There’s no way any vaccine hesitancy (aka “sense”) will be mitigated, with the “jab everyone” apostle now telling that world that this vile jollop is, in actuality, completely useless. What a carve-up!
Boris Johnson has now crossed the threshold where he can be sectioned under the Mental Health Act?.
Surely this qualifies as madness?
Einstein would have locked him up in October the latest.
#MeToo.
He really ought to have been put to bed by his orderly, by now. In nice, calm facilities.
Just used a M&S gift card and I asked if they would dispose of the used card?
“Oh no” was the reply, “You have to dispose of the card yourself”
Honestly, I think that if you had to wear old sackcloth and shout “unclean, unclean”, it wouldn’t be any worse than it is at present.
Obviously not true.
Did you buy something from M&S with the card?
So, they were prepared to hand over something to you but would not take something from you?
Did they realise how illogical that is?
Forget Greensill, there’s obviously a lot of money to be made out of Lepers’ Bells. The churches will also have to start reopening the mediaeval Lepers’ Squints. Then we can have the full Mediaeval Experience. Personally, I just want more Lady Godivas, but you can’t have everything.
I would have thrown it on the floor at my feet if they had told me that
Exactly, I’d have dropped it on the counter & said “wise up and put it in the bin beside you you cretin…” walking away…
Bozo is doing a U-Turn on yesterday’s U-Turn.
The Roundup 1 day ago included a Telegraph article in which a ‘Government Adviser’ criticised the gloomy SAGE model predicting rising ‘cases’ as lockdown was eased going into the summer ( which is what bozo is panicking about now).
He/she specifically said that rises would not begin again until later in the year because of the Seasonal nature of the virus.
Attached my comment at the time.
“COVID-19 outbreaks have consistently shown themselves to be self-limiting, regardless of what measures are or are not imposed.”
The bottom line in reality. Johnson is both a liar and a fool.
Brecht said he is a criminal, not a fool.
Just get on and live your life folks. Johnson and co., are quite mad.
Lockdowns saved us therefore more lockdowns in the future will do the same, ad infinitum!
Regardless, please take the vaccine and get a vaccine passport before you become the scapegoat prior to the next lockdown in Autumn 2021.
That’s exactly it. Lockdown saved your life and you owe it all to hero Johnson. Just a shameless, manipulative liar.
Trying to save his lardy arese having finally woken up to how much lockdown has cost people and the country.
I wish someone would pull the plug on this Johnson
Ahh that is what everyone wishes… for someone else to do the dirty work. We can complain on here as much as we like lockdown sceptics arent gonna stop this train. Complaining wont stop this train.
Read Sun Tzu and You know that the main point is opportunity. Being at the ready when the opportunity arises.
Those who are afraid of dying – will be the first to go. Thinning out the obedient and the gullible.
it is not just the government that is pivoting away from the vaccines-will-save us narrative… if you look on the bbc the same thing brewing there too https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt-40ac92b1-1750-4e86-9936-2cda6b0acb3f
More lockdowns to come
I’ve just seen someone wearing 9 slices of Swiss Cheese on their face – so it obviously works:)
Typical infantile nonsense from our national broadcaster. It looks like something put together by a group of pupils taking GCSE computer graphics.
The beeb is just a media outlet for the govt’s propaganda, so it’s essentially one and the same thing
we are slowly being prepped so that the lockdown can continue
this is exactly what it’s all about
Heir to Bliar?
Blair’s fingerprints have been all over this since Christmas. It was a complete shambles last year – lie after lie, U turn after U turn. He’s behind the scenes getting control of the narrative. We are the best at vaccinations, we were so lucky to have a government that ordered so much and so many different vaccines, we are world leaders in genome sequencing that every single sample is subjected to – on and on. Now, the story is we owe it all to lockdown. Pure evil
So he’s ignoring all those people who have been ignoring lockdown and pretending we’ve all be ‘good’ citizens? By the looks of it, since before Christmas there’s been a hell of a lot of people ignoring lockdown.
I was quite down today with all the stupidity going on but then l read about the “punch up” between our wonderful police and evil wrongdoers enjoying themselves in Soho last night.
Quite cheered me up.
More power to your “drinking” elbows, all of you.
One thing which hardly ever gets mentioned as one of the causes of these stupid lockdowns and political theatre is the sheer ego and arrogance of those involved as a cause of it. We rightly criticise the media for scaremongering, whilst we haven’t yet had enough of a go at ‘big tech’ and internet media for the shameless algorithms which echo and distort information by recording every clicked story and feeding similar content to the point that anyone worried by covid in the early part of the year last year would have found themselves with wall to wall coverage across the broadcast and online media. Many people have looked for the conspiracy theories which will explain it all, big pharma, the great reset, bio passports and control and so on, but it always strikes me that the biggest reason so many of us are in this ridiculous situation is the ego and arrogance of politicians and public health officials and tsars who love the idea of ‘having a good war’ and being cast as ‘the saviours’. It’s driven them to ‘action’ because they are so desperate to gain credit for it. Today’s bullshit nonsense being spouted by Boris is nothing… Read more »
I think you have a good point there. Afterall, one of the reasons Tony Bliar went into Iraq was so he could rehash the success of Margaret Thatcher & the Falklands. Now his aim is to be the world’s Messiah. Johnson’s stated aim was to be King of the World. Between the two of them, they have definitely got the delusional egos to do what they’ve done.
I think that last paragraph is more true now than ever Bartleby. We have failed to fill the vacuum left by the collapse of cold war ideologies with the more nuanced political philosophies needed to address the challenges humanity faces. So we have vain careerist personality politicians with no substantive ideas. And shrill single-issue campaigns. Shrill campaigners have taken a single disease and constructed a fanatical ideology around it to the detriment of public health. Any reasonable wholistic public health philosophy might have acted as a balwark against such fanaticism. But today’s politicians don’t do philosophy. It’s easier for them just to throw yet more billions at the NHS to keep unhealthy people alive for a bit longer, so they can continue to die prematurely of heart disease as usual.
Going through the ONS website and found this nugget of gold:
https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transparencyandgovernance/freedomofinformationfoi/deathsfromcovid19withnopreexistingconditionsfromjuly2020tofebruary2021
“There was a total of 9400 deaths in 2020 that were due to COVID-19 and were recorded without any pre-existing conditions.”
It’s in here:
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/datasets/preexistingconditionsofpeoplewhodiedduetocovid19englandandwales
“Please see ‘table 1a, row 28’ for deaths where COVID-19 was listed as the underlying cause, but had no other pre-existing conditions recorded on the death certificate.”
So 9400 “true” covid deaths of any age.
Going through the ONS document thought you would be interested to know:
Records without pre-existing conditions – 1-64 years – 1549
So in 2020 the number of people who died “of covid” with no pre-existing or recorded co-morbidities was a horrifying, horrendous, bedwetting total of 1549.
What a terrifying pandemic.
Worth destroying the country’s economy and getting rid of all our freedoms for wasn’t it?
Excellent work…. which leads you onto why? See below…
They need to cover their arses for this criminality, that’s why lockdowns are now the thing that saved us not vaccines.
Vaccine = cause
Lockdown = cause
Hopping around on one leg with duck feathers duct taped to your head chanting nonsense = cause
Emerging from cyclical, respiratory season with corresponding reduction in deaths = effect.
Hmm
Bertolt Brecht:
He, who does not know the truth is just a fool.
He, who knows the truth, but lies about it – is a criminal.
So, do You have access to the latest hidden data? Well, the news comes in German, but there are translation helpers now. The short end is:
The majority of people croaking in the UK are now those, that have received two doses. My father died last Wednesday after the first shot of which we don’t know which brew it was. His doktor Mengele told him it’s state of the art treatment. State of the art euthanasia. Cannot sue the Mengeles now. They are all protected from liability.
Have to stop now, or I use very expletive language.
The Vaccination Death Blow:
https://www.rubikon.news/artikel/der-impf-todesstoss
I’m so sorry to hear this, my sympathy to you and your family
Thank You very much. It is a worst case scenario for my family. I was denied boarding last August and could not return to Germoney. My parents were devastated and so was I – having had terminated my Uruguayan life with great losses. Now, my Mom with progressing dementia is all on her own – my siblings are also overseas and not available. The tragedy is, that due to my PTSD, my parents were the only support I received. It’s all so very messed up right now.
That’s awful, life is hard enough as we get older and families live far apart, without all this going on too. I hope your mother has some kind friends and carers nearby (and you too)
The person writing the article does not really understand what the UK modelling study is saying.
Yes – future cases will be dominated by vaccinated people but that’s because the vast majority of people will be vaccinated. e.g
90% vaccinated -> 70% of cases
10% unvaccinated -> 30% of cases
Relative risk for unvaccinated compared to vaccinated is about 4
Okay. Please be a little bit more precise, and I will relay that information to the author. Nobody is served well by articles that are not written fully understanding what the source actually shows. Thank You for Your assistance in this matter. We need the clear and concise truth. I was under the impression that would be the case.
They’re only indemnified against adverse effects of vaccines- these are not vaccines by the legal definition so they’re not protected against any litigation.
The deeper problem is now the ‘justice’ system in Germany and elsewhere. Having right is not equal to getting right. Dark times indeed.
Well, what did we expect?
That they admit that neither lockdowns nor the vaccines work and made a difference?
They, the media, the medical profession and 90% of the population have entered a one-way cul-de-sac without any turnoffs.
They are determined to crash into the wall, again and again.
Yesterday the government were saying that vaccines have saved 10,000 lives. Now BJ is saying it’s all down to lockdowns! You have to ask why? Public Enquiry? More lockdowns on the way? Never ending emergency powers? What is their game? Whatever it is, it won’t be good for us plebs
Why not claim 50,000 lives? Or ten million? It would have as much basis in evidence (none).
You have two choices folks. Either continue putting up with this deranged nonsense and suffer the consequences or start acting with honour, integrity and courage. Just like our forefathers did. I want to be able to face my forefathers in future without shame and with honour. I want my children, and their children, to live in a world of peace and without fear.
The least I can do is try my best to make it happen.