We have an update today on yesterday’s vote in the European Parliament, which essentially waved through the Commission’s plans to roll out a vaccine passport scheme across the EU, which we covered yesterday. This is a guest post from a source within the EU.
In Brussels yesterday the European Parliament adopted a negotiating position on the Commission’s Digital Green Certificate proposal. 575 MEPs voted for a compromise text, with 80 against and 40 abstentions.
Voting took place remotely after three hours of speeches to a mostly empty chamber.
The Commission’s desire to create a universal system of health check points within the EU was apparent before the Plenary Session. During the debate it became increasingly clear that these checks will be taking place beyond Member State borders.
MEPs were resigned to passing the Regulation in order to “return to normal” even if it “puts Schengen at stake”.
Voter concerns that European society would be divided were occasionally relayed, usually as a prefix to a bald statement that the DGC would neither discriminate nor function as a pass for entry into Member States.
A handful of MEPs asked to examine the Proposal more critically.
With Parliament’s approval – and the three EU Institutions already in alignment – negotiations between Commission, Council and Parliament on the final text will be a mere formality.
We can expect the rubberstamp by June, ushering in a sophisticated and probably enduring system of health checks across Europe, enhanced by the draconian Passenger Locator Form, also on its way to becoming law.
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So it makes no odds what our State here thinks or does, the world is ploughing on with or without any relation to Mr Johnson or Mr Hancock, they are merely bobbing up and down on the tide of global affairs. This should be a relief to those who think vaccine status certification is part of a uk state scheme to enslave Humanity. Pressure for this is merely a high-tech extension of existing protocols for the management of infectious diseases, e.g. yellow fever etc.and innoculation requirement going back many decades. For all of us who have followed the design, implementation, and use of single sign on systems since before 2002, it will be no surprise that digital identity has become a global means of authentication (i.e. you are who you say you are) and authorization (you have the rights you say you have.) Authn/Authz is what it is all about, and it’s fair enough if you pause to think for 2 seconds, We do not want to live in a world where people pretend to be someone they are not to steal or where people say they own things or rights they do not own. It is right to be… Read more »
Baah! Into the pen you got to get your eartag.
I heartily welcome secure digital Ids. I’ll get through, you can wait to be sent home.
Well until your pass goes wrong, gets deleted,unaccountably shows red,falls down the toilet, gets nicked,or whatever.
It’s an honest comment, fair play, far less ignorant than most. But the same applies to car insurance, motor tax, present passports or plane tickets or train tickets , indeed any informationtechnology. I agree it must be done properly. but the answer does not lie in ludditism.
“I’ll get through” – yeah, first time you will. Until the biometric database is promptly hacked, as happened in Israel (7 million+ records). And has happened in India (1 billion+ records passed freely around WhatsApp groups). Not everyone by any means will get a digital id, they will simply use yours.
well your comment would be welcome had it not revealed your misanthropic side,. you seem to hope the project might fail. But it’s otherwise an honest comment, fair play, far less ignorant than most. But the same applies to car insurance, motor tax, present passports or plane tickets or train tickets , indeed any information technology. I agree it must be done properly. but the answer does not lie in ludditism.
“it’s a bad day for crooks and law breakers” except for the crooks and law breakers in government, and their cronies.
Leaving aside any moral absolutes one might wish to hold to on this topic, the last year has made clear that not even liberal democracies that have long been stable can be trusted not to go mad and have the executive abuse its power.
yes, leave it all aside, you will soon get tired of always being the second class citizen who gets sent home after waiting all day, after everybody else has gone through.
Possibly I will get fed up, yes. But for now, I believe we should push back against these things, even though they may seem inevitable. You may consider that foolish, but we all do what we have to do to live with ourselves.
weakings always do, you are no freedom fighter. It is necessary to authenticate yourself, if you cannot, you’ll be limited. It’s sad but just the way it is now.
“It’s sad but just the way it is now”
Heard very often in 1930’s Germany
Just listen to yourself – did you ever think as a child that you’d grow up to have a job like this? Is the money they’re paying you really enough for selling your soul? These are sad days we’re living through where so many people in this country seem to have lost their survival instinct and are willingly shrugging their way to extinction.
Re: push back, you you think the world care that you push back? Against who? Fon? FFS!! you don’t even know fon, so why would you push back against fon, do not be a fool.
Ok, I’ll wait in the field until all the little fons have gone through the doors of the lorry bound for the abattoir.
I was thinking more Rome, Costa Brava,Greece, Portugal, Italy, but if you wish to wait in a field for an abattoir, I justhope you enjoy eating grass!!!
Your views disgust me.
Does fon stand for full of nonsense? I’ve read a lot of your comments, and just when I think you can’t come up with anything more ridiculous, you come up with comments like this.
Probably Brigade 77
no, the EU, the UK might try to plough its own furrow… but uou wil get tired of long waits, and being sent sent home tail between legs!
nothing to say but bile, little wonder no-one pays heed to your opinion. The EU is to have vaccine status certification. you will soon get tired of being the second class citizen, who gets sent home, after waiting all day.
Waiting all day for what?
In any case, if I’m to be a second class citizen, at least I’ll be one who can write properly. And if you’re the kind of person I’d find myself conversing with as a first class citizen, I’d be better off with the other second class folks. 😉
At least … you won’t have an internet connection to make trouble for the rest of us, since sign on will apply to everything.
Life without the internet – how tragic.
It will be a big relief for the others once you’re gone.
Careful fon- you’re letting slip that you know their agenda .. no internet connection eh? But hang on – doesn’t that mean they won’t be able to track us? Or will we have ankle tags or chips inserted? This world you’re so readily embracing would only work with decent and honest people in charge – good luck with that.
re: write properly, I’ve only got one hand! I’m doing OK.
Bravo!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yB7RxD5lnXo
fon does not exist. fon is just a machine that says how things are or soon will be.
if fon is wrong in a year, you have every right to grumble, until then you are just an arsehole.
“This should be a relief to those who think vaccine status certification is part of a uk state scheme to enslave Humanity. ” No-one here thinks that. We know is part of a GLOBAL scheme to enslave Humanity.
you can throw out your dummy. good for you, but the world is still going through with it.
And you accuse others of having nothing to say but bile.
I was actually joking. I expect some people do think there are UK or global schemes to enslave humanity, but I don’t. What I think is pretty certain is that most of us are well aware that what’s happening with the reaction to covid is not confined to the UK but is global, albeit with local variances.
You’re a mug, oh look Foreign tourists with a Covid-19 “health pass” will be allowed to visit France again from 9 June.
You can go to e.g.#Birmingham, if you are in luck, while the others can visit Paris!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-56934746
Use you head, it’s just about trust, certainty and belief. And it is not going to go away since everything (all forms of authorization ) depend on authentication. It’s only tangentially realted to covid19. Like I said use your head…
Visit Paris and wear face knickers all day along with the other knickerfaces … what fun, fon.
So you want a digital ID that’s tied to antibodies in your blood and connected to a Central Bank Digital Currency, and you’re naïve enough to think this won’t be abused by global “authorities”?
Have you seen what’s going on in China? You step out of line there and you’re restricted in every way. You can’t do anything there that the Communist government doesn’t approve of.
The same thing will happen here when they bring in a myriad of restrictions on your every move to “protect the environment” or stop you from “spreading hate” or whatever they dream up.
If you believe you’re one of the owners of this country, the only “digital ID” you need is a strong username and password (or equivalent) to get access to the services you use. In other words, it’s more like your car keys than your passport. If you want to be chipped like an animal, that’s up to you, but don’t impose your weird restrictions on other people.
The world is doing it, throw your dummy out, the world around you is still doing it.
That doesn’t make it right nor desirable. It’ll start with international travel and slowly but surely more will be added and you’ll agree because it’s only a football game then a theatre and before you know it you’ll need it to take a piss. Wake up!
It’s inevitable, whether it is desirable or not
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-56934746
Don’t be a mug! Use you head, it’s just about trust, certainty and belief. And it is never going to go away since everything (all forms of authorization ) depend on authentication. It’s only tangentially realted to covid19. Like I said use your head. Don’t be a luddite, that did not work, it never shall.
We already have identification for the purposes of authentication. You don’t need something in your blood that can be automatically read by any number of government approved sensors to have authentication.
If you think you do, then you’re the mug.
Large parts of the world were once behind Communism and Fascism. I’m sure you would have been right in there with them.
When they were putting Jews on trains, I’m sure there were people like you saying that “the whole Reich is doing it, throw your dummy out”. When the Chinese extract organs from their living citizens, I’m sure there are doctors like you saying “the whole of China is doing this, throw your dummy out.”
If that’s the best argument you have, you are a sad, depraved person indeed.
what fon wants is of zero importance. fon deal in facts. fon knows there will be a scheme of trusted third party certificates to authenticate people, there is no other route, it is inevitable. like night follows day. You csan shout and scream and there will still be a scheme of trusted third party certificates to authenticate people.
There are plenty of third party certificate schemes. They are voluntary and they are not tied to innate characteristics or whether people have submitted to human genetic engineering. That is discrimination we’ve never had in this country.
There may well be such a system and it may well be used to discriminate against people like me who do not wish to play a part in it. That doesn’t mean that I and many others won’t oppose it. Maybe we’ll win, maybe you’ll win. It also doesn’t mean that people like you who support it aren’t the fascist authoritarians that you are.
Fon it’s just missing a G, Fong already has a digital ID, everyone in the PRC does. Fong say he doesn’t matter, he is of zero importance, Fong knows only The Party is of importance. Fong say you all sheep and will come under the jackboot of China very soon, with their ‘trusted third party certificates’. Fong is desperate to please his masters, and works really hard.
In the famous words of Buzz Lightyear, another computer generated character, ‘you are a sad, sad little man and you have my pity.’
Thank you Ebygum for finally nailing it!!!
these human beings are dangerous
It’s true, they are luddites.
One day, fon, maybe you’ll meet a girl, and things will get better for you.
A girl that wants to go out with fon in his face knickers? Leading eventually to a brood of mini-fons, suckled on bile and weaned on malice? Be careful what you wish for, Messifan.
There aren’t too many girls in China that would put up with him.
Reading your commentary and subsequent follow ups to other commenters, I can only assume you are an automaton of some kind with pre-programmed responses: “It’s an honest comment, fair play, far less ignorant than most.” So, let’s give you the chance to prove the honestly, fairness and lack of ignorance in your own position. Firstly, any comparison to existing forms of ID such as current passports and driving licenses are invalid; why? I don’t need an untested medical intervention in order to acquire either of these. Immediately this changes the nature of of these ID’s and it’s not fair enough, if you pause to think about it for more than two seconds. Hold on! I hear you say, this is needed in our current predicament, with such a deadly virus about! Well, no, and if you can find any statistics to disprove this, here’s your chance. It appears to be largely comparable to flu. We can discount your example of yellow fever. So now, we arrive at a crossroads – we are implementing an invasive form of ID for a virus not much scarier than flu (if at all). This seems to be a gross overreaction, or, quite possibly a… Read more »
The people who think there’s malicious intent never thought it was confined to the UK and it clearly isn’t. I don’t feel comforted by the fact that I’m not one of the ‘bad guys’ because in their eyes I clearly am – no vaccine/ social media history/ speaking out against the government for example. Non criminal hate incidents can include any opinion I express which disagrees with current government-approved thinking and will be reflected on any social pass they introduce. If you’re a paid employee whose job it is to write posts like these you already know this. If you’re not, your ‘vaxxport’ will already be marked by your presence here. I’d scuttle away quickly before someone thinks you’re a real sceptic…
I’m astonished, not at the now incontrovertible evidence that our political class are totalitarian bounders of the first order, as I have long suspected this to be the case, but at the supine useless submissiveness of the rest of us. Myself not the least of these. It is true that for Germans the demand for papers whenever one wants to go anywhere is a return to normal – in 1938. It is true that for East Germans, Poles, Rumanians, Czechs, etc, half the country working as unpaid spies for the government and reporting on their families, friends, and neighbours, is a return to normal – during the Cold War. It is true that for some Australians the government forbidding anyone to leave the country is a return to normal – for those who once lived behind the Iron Curtain. So we see, again, as if we needed it, that it is true that if we do not remember the past we will be forced to repeat it. “Freedom has many difficulties and democracy is not perfect, but we have never had to put a wall up to keep our people in, to prevent them from leaving us.” So the western… Read more »
Having unearthed a rich seam of ignorance and anger, I can only imagine your ugly faces as you each realise you are stuck, it is only a matter of time, the lure of an easy life will bring each and every one of you to hea soon enoughl, you might act all feral and wild, but you will meakly enrol in the system, one by one, since you’ll have to or miss out! The lure of an easy life will be too much to bear for weaklings. Anyway, it’s happening, suck it up, like it or lump it. That’s the offer.
And you will have sadly met your demise from taking the poison so you won’t even be able to laugh at us ugly idiots at which point we won’t even need an ‘ignore’ button that’s not on this site
Whoever he is he has no soul, probably because of the vaccine.
And there you have a person so drunk on the power of being on the side of the establishment that they relish the opportunity to hold your freedoms hostage and break your will! You sound like Satan himself.
Who are you to offer my freedoms back to me? There’ll be a reckoning for people like you.
Speaking of Satan: if you don’t mind scarring yourself shitless: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZ4NTdSK5ac
Matt – he doesn’t seem to realise he has to get the jab first before he gets his digital pass – and then keep on getting vaccinated. The cocktail effects of the jabs will be his reckoning. Count on it!
little fon is beginning to give me the giggles.
Fon is the letzter mensche and will sell his soul into obscurity. Those who are strong and creative will survive. The best things are always prohibited and the rule breakers enduring. All things change in the way Athens was once atop the world. Birmingham may one day be the new Paris.
Entropy, folly and mediocrity are your greatest enemies.
it is spelt meekly, not “meakly” [sic]
Which vaccines will be included? Covid, influenza, meningitis, pneumonia?
which covid vaccines? Second generation are already being spoken about and look likely to leave current ones behind?
what about other health issues – HIV, TB, measles? Lots of children in U.K. not vaccinated with MMR?
Dunno why so many of you bother with this fon joker. Just ignore him and let him talk to himself ffs.
Didn’t think i’d be leaving the country again when this all kicked off. I only renewed my passport as a possible tool of escape. At the moment there seems nowhere to escape to sadly,
Lets hope the French, ie the plebs, not the elites, throw a spanner in the works. They have form and are far better than the Brits when it comes to standing up to the man.
Can I suggest not replying to fon’s comments. Sure, downvote, but any responses are a waste of energy and a distraction from considered comments BTL. Starve it of attention.
Absolutely…. an agenda there or a simple distraction technique. Could well be automaton though.
Where have all the other comments gone – just 17 out of 60 left? Is this being censored?
and 5 minutes later down to 14. some active pruning taking place as we speak
His comments shouldn’t be deleted just because people didn’t agree with them- isn’t that the definition of free speech?
I have absolutely no idea why this article has been written
Anyone can go directly to the Press Office of the EU to read in English the decision yesterday, which is consistent with my post on here I made yesterday. Link below.
The COVID19 Certificate is NOT a travel document and it was decided it cannot be used as a discriminatory ‘passport’, it cannot be used to stop freedom of movement across Schengen. It cearly shouldn’t exist at all, but has been successfully watered down to be mainly cosmetic. By the way if anyone wants this certificate they need to do a test of some sort, probably quickie antigen will do.
I have urged everyone to starve ‘fon’ of oxygen, just ignore completely he/it will get fed up quick enough. He is just talking rubbish about this certificate ( as everything else).
https://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/press-room/20210422IPR02606/eu-covid-19-certificate-must-facilitate-free-movement-without-discrimination
Isn’t it funny how all the journalists are writing about a passport scheme and yet NOT one is writing about the outrageous numbers of people experiencing severe adverse reactions and deaths to these experimental biologicals. Wake up people. Please do some research before you take the koolaid. You may be pleasantly surprised to know your risks, which for most is less than a whisker.