We are told a lot about the upsides of Covid vaccines but rarely discuss the risks. Fox News host Tucker Carlson has taken it upon himself to ask how many Americans have died after taking the vaccine.
Here is a transcript of part of the video.
How many Americans have died after taking the Covid vaccines? Not Americans who’ve been killed by the virus, that’s a huge number, but how many Americans have died after getting the vaccines designed to prevent the virus? Do you know the answer to that question? Do you know anything about the downside? We know a lot about the upside of the vaccine. We’ve been completely in favor of vulnerable people taking vaccines.
But what about the potential risks? You’d think you would know more about that than you do. We talk about vaccines constantly, not just on this show, but in this country. Joe Biden was on TV yesterday talking about vaccines. He wants you to get one. Everyone in authority wants you to get one. In fact, you’ve probably already had your shot, and good for you. If you haven’t had your shot, you’re under enormous pressure to get your shot. You understand that soon you may not be able to fly on commercial airplanes or go to work at the office or send your children to school if you don’t have the shot. Meanwhile, the social pressure is enormous. Friends may have already informed you that you’re not welcome at their parties or weddings if you haven’t been vaccinated. There is a lot of pressure to comply. At some point, you probably will comply. It’s just too difficult not be to vaccinated in this country.
But before you make the appointment: do you know anything about the potential risks? Probably you don’t know much. We all assume the risks are negligible. Vaccines aren’t dangerous. That’s not a guess, we know that pretty conclusively from the official numbers. Every flu season, we give influenza shots to more than 160 million Americans. Every year, a relatively small number of people seem to die after getting those shots. To be precise, in 2019, that number was 203 people. The year before, it was 119. In 2017, a total of 85 people died from the flu shot.
Every death is tragic, but big picture, we don’t consider those numbers disqualifying. We keep giving flu shots, and very few people complain about it. So the question is how do those numbers compare to the death rate from the coronavirus vaccines now being distributed across the country? That’s worth knowing.
We checked today. Here’s the answer, which comes from the same set of Government numbers that we just listed: between late December of 2020, and last month, a total of 3,362 people apparently died after getting the Covid vaccines in the United States… That’s an average of 30 people every day. So, what does that add up to? By the way, that reporting period ended on April 23rd. We don’t have numbers past that, we’re not quite up to date. But we can assume that another 360 people have died in the 12 days since. That is a total of 3,722 deaths. Almost 4,000 people died after getting the Covid vaccines. The actual number is almost certainly much higher than that – perhaps vastly higher.
The data we just cited come from the Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System (VAERS) which is managed by the CDC and the FDA. VARES has received a lot of criticism over the years, some of it founded. Some critics have argued for a long time that VARES undercounts vaccine injuries. A report submitted to the Department of Health and Human Services in 2010 concluded that “fewer than 1% of vaccine adverse events are reported” by the VARES system. Fewer than 1%. So what is the real number of people who apparently have been killed or injured by the vaccine? Well, we don’t know that number. Nobody does, and we’re not going to speculate about it. But it’s clear that what is happening now, for whatever reason, is not even close to normal. It’s not even close to what we’ve seen in previous years with previous vaccines.
Worth reading – or watching – in full.
Stop Press: Pradheep J. Shanker says in the National Review that Tucker Carlson deliberately misrepresented the VAERS data to promote a dangerous strain of vaccine skepticism
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For once “worth reading in full” is correct.
Or rather, watching on the Fox News website (it has already been deleted from yootoob, I understand).
All he does is quote official government figures and ask entirely reasonable questions. A year ago that would have been an entirely uncontroversial thing to do.
You are not allowed to question the truth and what people said in the past can change, only the future is fixed!
Hmm, now where have I seen that before? Meanwhile, on a totally unrelated issue, how’s the climate change thingy going?
With the natural influence of the sun we are going into a cooling period😇
so glad I visited the Maldives fifteen years ago when it only had 5 years max left.
The same relative level of deaths is also being reported in the UK, with the same caveat that these are being under-reported. I tried to include government website links into Guido to answer the usual accusation that 1000+ UK deaths was a made up figure and – guess what? – I was moderated time and again. Oddly, 3 days later all my posts were simultaneously allowed through, but too late to make a difference to the debate! So, here are the UK death stats so far of this experimental gene therapy:
Up to April 26th 2021 the MHRA has received:
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-vaccine-adverse-reactions/coronavirus-vaccine-summary-of-yellow-card-reporting
Further to this under-reporting is also a problem in the UK also, identified by the MHRA that:
https://www.gov.uk/drug-safety-update/yellow-card-please-help-to-reverse-the-decline-in-reporting-of-suspected-adverse-drug-reactions
You know how we get the doctors dealing with all these Covid deaths on hospital? Well, how about a single Doctor will filled out a yellow card report of vaccine death? Oh that would just be irresponsible
Latest figures 722 AstraZeneca, 364 Pfizer, 2 Moderna and 14 unspecified brand – grand total 1102
Thanks for that, yes it has been updated with figures now made up to the 28th April. I suspect the 26th April figures were still those made up to the 21st April (as although the gov.uk website changes regularly the figures seem to be updated weekly). This would mean in 7 days:
55 more deaths in 7 days equates to around 8 experimental vaccine deaths per day, which appears to remain consistent given the period and scale of the roll-out.
Of course death is only one aspect of the overall UK reported adverse reaction figures, many of which report very serious life changing reactions.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-vaccine-adverse-reactions/coronavirus-vaccine-summary-of-yellow-card-reporting
The same caveat of under-reported adverse reaction event figures applies.
I think we have to ask the question why the government are still saying that the vast majority of the deaths reported are in the very elderly and people with underlying health conditions, and suggesting these deaths would have happened anyway (ie the coincidence theory). What they are not doing is giving any explanation for the fact that the rate of deaths being reported following “vaccination” does not seem to be slowing down despite it being younger and healthier people receiving the injections in recent weeks.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-vaccine-adverse-reactions/coronavirus-vaccine-summary-of-yellow-card-reporting
the rate of deaths being reported following “vaccination” does not seem to be slowing down This indeed contradicts the government narrative, even on the ‘official figures’ . By the government’s own admission the yellow card scheme suffers from chronic under-reporting, which combined with over-reporting of C19 tests (via false positive tests) strongly suggests vaxx deaths are already by some measure exceeding C19 deaths. Moving onto an ever younger demographic being jabbed, the government’s unwillingness to disclose more precise death figures coupled with the negligible risk posed by C19 to school kids and young adults, the current policy looks likely to be about to sacrifice several thousand young folks to the great god Big Pharma for absolutely no good reason. If the Scottish FOI figures (see below) give the other extreme of potential vaxx deaths this would be by no means a far fetched scenario. Remember for healthy ten-to-19-year-olds the chance of dying from Covid-19 is put at 1 in 2.5million, whereas the current vaxx death figure seems to at best suggesting 1 in 50,000, with the Scottish FOI figure (and yellow card under reporting) suggesting this figure could be nearer 1 in 10,000. If so some 9m million UK schoolchildren… Read more »
You make such a valid and frightening point about children being at very much greater risk of dying from the “vaccine” as opposed to dying from covid. That the government make it impossible for the general public to know the distribution of reported “vaccine” deaths by age group suggests they have something to hide. That, combined with the ramping up of the “vaccine” rollout in younger age groups, when people are being deprived of the information they need to know about the death rate in their age group so they can make more of an informed decision whether or not to be injected.
That’s why I left Order Order. I found they would withhold my comments until they were no longer relevant.
What’s the number of people who died within 28 days of vaccination in the UK and is it higher than unvaccinated that died with COVID?
I don’t think that really gets to the heart of the matter even if they publish such data. We are being fed complete garbage on the risk side of Covid. So the relative efficacy of the vaccines, balanced against their dangers, is muddied even before we begin.
I haven’t been able to vet this, as I’m not sure it’s even possible without submitting a freedom of information request myself, but someone apparently asked this of Public Health Scotland.
The answer was 2,207 deaths.
Extrapolate that across the UK using population.
Of course the fact is that it is fair to say that some of those people would have died of something anyway. I saw a pretty horrible car accident today for example. But it’s comparing apples with apples in the way Covid deaths are recorded (although two wrongs don’t make a right).
And yes, I know, post hoc ergo propter hoc is a logical fallacy.
https://dailyexpose.co.uk/2021/03/30/f-o-i-request-shows-2207-died-within-28-days-of-having-the-covid-vaccine-in-scotland-during-february/
Warning: there seems to be a less than watertight checking of figures in the Daily Expose article you quote. The headline states ‘F.O.I Request shows 2,207 died within 28 days of having the Covid Vaccine in Scotland during February‘, whereas digging into the article the actual FOI request made on 20th February was: “Could you please provide the total number of deaths for any reason within 28 days of having a Covid vaccine from the start of the vaccination roll out date?” To which Public Health Scotland responded with – “Using the latest mortality data available (Up to 26th February), 2,207 people have died within 28 days of vaccination (number of days between vaccine and death is 0-27 where 0 is the day of vaccination).” This set of figures provided covers the period from the roll out in early December up to 26th February (a period of almost 3 months), not just February – the article fails to clarify this. Indeed Daily Expose follows the misleading headline and incorrectly states in the first leading paragraph: A freedom of information request made to Public Health Scotland has revealed that 2,207 people died within twenty-eight days of having either the Pfizer /… Read more »
https://medicalxpress.com/news/2021-05-vitt-blood-clotting-case-johnson.html
University of Utah Health announces a suspected case of vaccine-induced thrombotic thrombocytopenia (VITT), also called thrombosis and thrombocytopenia syndrome (TTS), after receiving the Johnson & Johnson COVID-19 vaccine. Confirmation of the diagnosis by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) is pending.
The patient, a male younger than age 50, received the Johnson & Johnson vaccine ten days prior to experiencing symptoms. These included pain that started in his toes and progressed to his thighs. He later developed chest pain.
After arriving at U of U Health, physicians discovered blood clots in his legs and lungs, as well as low platelets, and suspected VITT was the cause.
Jetting jabbed under 50 is suicidal stupidity.
Today I read about an 18 yr old female student in USA who had 3 clots removed from her brain! She seems to be recovering albeit slowly.
Females are apparently most susceptible to the damage being done by these jabs. The Johnson Johnson jab is the worst of them all.
At least our zombies don’t have to worry about clots on the brain.
🤣🤣🤣
I’ve read of and actually know people who had blood clots in the brain – almost causing death – not long after receiving their vaccine. I also just read a story about people’s thoughts becoming “muddled” or less clear after receiving the vaccine (not being able to recall things they previously could recall). I’ve also seen this “symptom” or effect in people who have had the vaccine. I just know that it’s “off limits” for 99 percent of journalists to investigate these claims and tally these numbers.
Yes. I know what a post hoc fallacy is so nobody point it out, but a friend of mine had a episode of Total Global Amnesia after the vaccine. Spent the night in hospital after being admitted for suspected TIA.
Yes! My brother’s partner who is a VERY healthy 32 year old received her first AZ shot around 6 weeks ago. In the days immediately afterwards she felt unable to focus properly, wasn’t able to participate fully in meetings for work and felt ‘befuddled’, not being able to recall certain words, not feeling like she could respond quickly quickly etc.and described the feeling as a ‘brainfog. A month later she was still experiencing this although with lesser severity. She said that she didn’t think she’d get the second shot – I’m praying she sticks to that decision.
I can speak personally of someone I know who has had the vaccine and has had considerable memory impairment afterwards but would never link it to the jab. I, on the other hand, do link it to the jab. It is distressing and makes me wonder if there is worse to come.
Why just ‘under 50’?????????????????????????
Do stop essentially parotting part of the propaganda.
Using their own published data showing 1 in 40000ish risk from the vaccine and 1 in 40000ish risk from COVID (for under 50’s males), (especially whilst COVID is at max in 0.2% of population) it’s crazy to take the additional risk of joining the vaccine experiment.
I think Rick’s point was that it’s questionable to assume there is a benefit to the OVER 50s.
………that it’s questionable to assume there is a benefit to the OVER 50s.
And especially so, when the ‘vaccines’ are designed to kill those foolish enough to get vaccinated.
Funnily enough I read about the VAERS report today. The deaths aren’t something you hear about in MSM. Could it be they have something to hide? Surely not!
I came across a video about a rise in deaths of those being jabbed for covid and flu.
https://odysee.com/@Bart-Kay-Nutrition-Science-Watchdog:7/flu-vaccination-associated-with-covid:8
although now that flu has been eradicated I hope the people will give the flu jab a miss, afterall it is unnecessary now.
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If anyone thinks ‘vaccines’ are an unalloyed good, see :
https://off-guardian.org/2021/04/30/watch-perspectives-on-the-pandemic-15/
Well, I gave up the flu jab last year – I mean, who knows what they will put into that nowadays?
The flu vaccine is the biggest medical scam of them all in my opinion. I would say that it is provable that in many years the flu jab is zero percent (or close to it) at protecting against the flu. If this was not the case, how would it be possible that we have had recent years in America where 35 to 61 million people get the flu … when 50 to 60 percent of the population has received the flu vaccine? And the percentage among older people is probably at least 70 percent.
I still wonder if all the old people who got their flu shots beginning around November might have contributed to the big spikes in deaths that began soon thereafter. Talk about studies that cannot be performed. What if the flu shots made it more likely that some unknown number of people would die from COVID? I wouldn’t rule out this possibility.
I agree in fact there was mention made last year about how taking the flu jab and catching Covid caused very bad reactions.
Yes I think it was first observed in Italy. Very likely also here in the first wave and undoubtedly in the “second wave”. When it happens again next winter that will be the kicker.
There was research showing an increase in other infections including coronaviruses after the flu vax but this was done prior to covid 19. It makes medical sense, the immune system is forced to make antibodies for specific flu strains and thus ignores other infectious agents that are actually present
And now the plan is to add the covid “booster” jab to the flu shot so that both are given at the same time.
If in doubt don’t.
Yes, my thoughts too.
Tucker has balls! By some distance the best pundit on US cable TV. Although he works at FOX , he was just as scathing about elements of Trump’s behaviour/policies as he is about Biden’s. As he says he is against pomposity, cover-ups, lies etc.
Fox will now be under intense pressure to ‘disappear him’ again. Wait for news that adverts during his show have been pulled etc. Happened last year as well, but he is so popular that he manages to keep on air.
Some tip him for an ‘important job’ in politics in a white building in DC. Unfortunately he probably has too many enemies for that to be possible.
Bet he wished he could really say what he thought!
Wow!! Well done Tucker Carlson. And Michael. What kind of pressure will he come under and Fox News now!
Yes indeed: just a shame that some of our politicians have avoided the cull!
Yes it’s a conundrum, why haven’t any of them died?
Why don’t they come clean about the wish to reduce the world’s population, we’d have a lot more respect for the lunatics
We should be having conversations about population, resource stocks, air quality etc. I’m not sure why they need to sneak this stuff in. I guess it’s too late.
If you ask people what they want now they will say everything and now. A party that promises to give everything away will get votes but ruin the country, it’s a conundrum alright. I guess fostering an attitude of shared values and responsibility, teaching people to collaborate and strive together. Then again that’s at odd with capitalism and human nature.
I’m not sure where we go now that most of our identity has been destroyed, but it’d be an interesting set of discussions (that no politician will ever have openly and honestly).
Yes, Politicians live for the moment and what they can make out of it, maybe they always did. But science is aiding and abetting their ultimate greed now.
“Politicians live for the moment”
… and reflect the society that they have to flatter. Give people a chance, and they endorse the crap (vide : Corona)
I think that the real litmus test of the genuineness of such fake desires/beliefs connected with establishment environmental pseudery are certain questions, such as :
I’m sure you can think of more hypocrisy detectors. Quite a good party game.
Surely that would negate the drive for Covid jabs which isn’t what they want to achieve, but you already know that. No they have chosen their path and cannot stop now or else face the wrath of the public.
This has all the signs of a potential disaster waiting to happen.
Yes. I wonder if their liability exemption will save pharma companies at Nuremberg mark II?
And why on earth do these people think that being evasive about the risks will encourage people to get these injections?
It’s already happening, but yes it will get very much worse.
“Every death is tragic”
This is patently untrue.
What about the thugs, killers, con-men who steal from the elderly, child abusers?
The people who are suffering with a painful and undignified illness where death is a release.
“Every death is tragic” is akin to “If it saves one life…….”
‘Your friends may have told you that you’re not welcome at their parties or weddings if you haven’t been vaccinated.’
Those are friends?
Yes – I thought the appropriate collective noun was ‘arseholes‘
No, that’s a plural noun.
You’re right. Oh dear!!! I’m devastated!
Have you got that much time on your hands? 🙂
So I’ve been reading the criticism of Tucker Carlson’s commentary. And it seems to boil down ENTIRELY to that anyone can enter details into VAERS. First, this may be the case, though I’ve read elsewhere that it’s not that straightforward. Second, if it IS true, why would we be seeing such an epidemic of trivial/irrelevant and/or fabricated reports for this vaccine, and not say HPV, which has also received its share of attention from anti-Vaxxers, or MMR? IF it’s a duff system, then surely it’s not beyond the wit of the CDC to double check cases and ensure they are not doubly recorded or whatever. It would be responsible to ensure it’s accurate, given that this is a mass roll out of an experimental vaccine approach. ONE WOULD THINK. And finally, if the CDC really did think that VAERS was scaring people unnecessarily into not taking a life saving vaccine with a benign side effect profile, preventing a deadly disease…..why not collate and publish All Cause Mortality data? And compare it to an unvaccinated control group? That would be very reassuring. I’d like to see it before I consider this vaccine. Ideally over a 5 year timeframe, but let’s start… Read more »
But surely faith in the therapy is enough?
Kuldorff mentioned two other systems that track the vaccine deaths in the US. Surely that has corroborated the trend or else he wouldn’t have been agreeing to support Tuckers piece.
Our health authorities have contrived implausible deniability. No sane (and honest) person would utilise a voluntary reporting system for a clinical trial.
And no sane person would allow themselves to be injected with any of the Covid concoctions, that are masquerading as vaccines.
The main problem with VAERS is the number of reports that aren’t being made. No further time frames are required, the vaccines are clearly very dangerous, but almost certainly, they are meant to be.
VAERS is self-reporting system. Here is the on-line form: https://vaers.hhs.gov/esub/index.jsp There is undoubtedly a spike in self-reports for the Covid vaccines. This could have many explanations. I thought it might be down to the enormous number of vaccinations but I have learned today that this is not true. However, given the extraordinary hype round the Covid programme it is not so surprising. People are reading every day about the vaccination programme and how new these vaccines are. They are going to be much more inclined than usual to fill in VAERS reports generally and to see a death as linked to the vaccine. Do you know that the CDC don’t check for double recording? They can’t legitimately do much more. It is meant to be a system open to anyone to record any adverse event. If the CDC started removing reports because they considered them dubious they would soon be accused of doctoring the data. It is a bit early to publish all cause mortality vaccine/non-vaccine. These things take time. And I am sure the CDC is being pressured to produce all sorts of statistics. However, thoroughly reputable agencies all over the world whose job it is to pick up… Read more »
I’ve just had my first period in 63 years
Presumably I am now fertile?
call me Caitlyn
Don’t put too much faith in VAERS. It’s a self reporting system and none of the events listed have been verified. It is to alert the CDC about possible unknown adverse reactions and shouldn’t be used to provide statistics.
Nobody is putting too much faith in VAERS and that would appear to include Tucker Carlson.
The real problem with VAERS, is that it massively under reports potential problems with all vaccines and up to 99% of adverse events go unreported.
It is now absolutely clear that Covid vaccine adverse events are way out of line with those of vaccines that have been traditionally developed and tested. VAERS figures should be used by all those with a brain to do so and I rather wonder what you think people should use instead.
And yet they used 53 deaths from the Swine Flu vaccine to pull it.
He covered this if you’d actually listened
Don’t put too much faith in VAERS.
Hmm – not sure that’s necessarily relevant. The key point is that the VAERS system is used to record vaccine injuries. It is used for ALL vaccines.
The number of reported injuries for Covid is many times more than the number of injuries reported for all the other vaccines put together.
The same goes for most other countries including the UK and those in the EU
Carlson is the only TV news personality in America who asks politically incorrect (but logical and valid) questions. I haven’t read the comments yet, but I’m sure plenty of people have answered Tucker’s question for him: You can’t report certain things, even important things. Everyone knows that by now, right?
So a minimum of 4,000 people have died after being vaccinated in just a couple of months. Compare this to the number of children in America who have died from or with COVID …. in 14 months. Last I checked, this figure was about 240 people. Maybe this qualifies as a good reason to not MAKE your child get vaccinated?
A picture is worth …
What you expect when you are vaccinating half the population in three months with an immense focus on their safety?
Do you realise the contradiction/admission in your statement? If these figues are correct, then “they” obviously got it wrong as far as “safety” is concerned. Or are we in the Vietnam War scenario: “had to destroy the village to save it”. Well, we all know how that ended.
In this picture above is included bout 160 million dodes of flu vaccine yearly and the spike above comes with the C-19 vaccine.In the age group 18-49 C-19 vaccine is 80 times more deadly than flu vaccine. The VAERS reporting system has not changed this year. This is clearly more dangeous vaccine than flu vaccine and should be used in those with severe outcome of C-19 including in the age group cited for the few in risk groups.
Thanks Teebs and Swedenborg for pointing out the number of flu shots. Clearly the VAERS spike was not due to the sheer number of vaccinations and I was wrong about that. It doesn’t follow that the spike was due to the vaccine causing more deaths. These are only reports where the doctor or relatives believe the death may have been due the vaccine. Given the enormous hype around the Covid vaccines people will be much more inclined to interpret any death as being due to the vaccine. What matters is whether the deaths were actually due to the vaccine and this can only be discovered through a combination of medical analysis of specific situations and statistical analysis as to whether this number of deaths is unusual for people of this age and gender. As I wrote in a post below – professional agencies are doing this all round the world for all the major vaccines and the only thing they have found so far is the miniscule increased risk of blood clots from the AZ vaccine. I know this is not going to convince you, but Carlson implied that these deaths were caused by the vaccine and it was dishonest… Read more »
So you admit they are likely unsafe? I don’t see how else to interpret what you say. Are you also saying previous vaccines were also likely more dangerous than they appear? It sure sounds like an inadvertent admission of that…
What you expect when you are vaccinating half the population in three months with an immense focus on their safety?
This was my point above. The thing is, I’m a mother. I’ve had both of my children vaccinated against MMR post the MMR scare. If you think I wasn’t intensely focused on the post vaccination health and well being of my precious babies, then you are very much mistaken. I’m not sure I could have been more focused on anything, ever. I don’t think I am unusual. I would have sought medical attention for anything bothering them far more rapidly than I would have done so for myself. The sense of responsibility is enormous.
MMR is included in Swedenborg’s plot.
Of course I understand your sense of responsibility. I have two boys, now in their thirties, and had to consider all the childhood vaccines, some of which were quite new when they were young. I found your post above and I think it is clearer to reply to that directly.
And another picture … if India had a Tucker Carlson …
So many coincidences!
And here is the dreadful evidence of why everybody must get vaccinated! These are the natural recovery rates from SARS2-Cov according to the CDC:
· Ages 0 to 19 = 99.997%
· Ages 20 to 49 = 99.98%
· Ages 50 to 69 = 99.5%
· Ages 70 and older = 94.6%
It is thus absolutely essential everybody gets vaccinated, because that is the only way the politicians who imposed lockdowns, masks, social distancing … and destroyed the lives and livelihoods of so many … vaccines are the only way these poor politicos can get out of the hole they dug, without having to admit they were wrong in the first place.
Geddit?
Two wrongs to make a right. Except, that does not work, and two wrongs will almost certainly make more wrongs … err … I mean … more coincidences.
Vaccines are the means for the powers that be to dig the hole deeper and bury us in it.
I don’t understand what Tucker means by “died after taking the vaccine”. Does he mean died because of the vaccine? This seems implausible. It would be gigantic shock and anyway how would anyone know?
Or does he mean “died sometime after taking the vaccine” then the figures are implausibly low. About 150 million people in the USA have had at least one dose. USA’s annual death rate is about 1 in a 100 per year population. If you do the sums, that means out of 150 million people you would expect about 125,000 to die every month (actually more because the vaccinated are heavily skewed to the elderly).
Or does he mean 4000 people died the day after taking the vaccine? Numerically this makes sense. You would normally expect about 4000 Americans to die every day out of 150 million people. But what an odd statistic for anyone to be keeping.
Or could it be that Tucker doesn’t know what he means?
Yeah, those deaths are reported because a doctor or relatives believe the deaths are likely to be due to the vaccine and should be investigated. Many are within 48 hours, or have symptoms starting almost immediately after. Why does that “seem implausible”? The clotting death patterns were found in part due to just such a reporting system. It might be “gigantic shock” to you, but not to the vaccine developers, I assure you. Some have died of heart events immediately after the jabs. Every such death should be investigated and autopsied … “How would anyone know” lol. You’re in for more gigantic shock to come, I’m sorry to say, since it looks as though the deaths from clots increase in frequency with youth,
Sandra
Thanks for explaining. It is not implausible that a doctor or relatives believe the deaths are likely to be due to the vaccine. What is implausible is that they are due to the vaccine. Obviously with hundreds of thousands of people having died after taking the vaccine a small proportion are going cause suspicion – especially if the doctor or relatives are inclined to suspect vaccines anyway. But if, after investigation and statistical analysis, it turned out those beliefs were correct and some four thousand people had died because of the vaccine that would be a major upset and cause for stopping the vaccine programme to find out what was going on. As you say, this was just what did happen for the minute (literally one in a million) risk of a blood clot from the AZ vaccine.
I saw an interview with Peter McCullough during the week who said that the majority of VAERS are being reported between 0 – 3 days from vaccination either because symptoms are almost instant or people are being seen in emergency rooms and the fact that the person affected has been recently vaccinated is usually fresh in the mind. The inference is that when you go over that time frame reactions or death is less likely to be considered linked to vaccines and therefore not reported.
Most of these VAERS reports (not just deaths) are submitted by doctors who think there is reason to believe that the vaccine contributed to the death.
The same VAERS system has been used in the past to monitor vaccine injuries. Vaccine rollouts have been halted when just 50 deaths have been reported.
Your statistical analysis is not valid partly because daily deaths will include a significant number of people who are much too weak and frail to be skipping off to the local medical centre to get their vaccine shot. A disproportionate deaths in a particular cohort, e.g. young women would also raise a red flag.
For example, I know of a 21 year old female student who collapsed with a stroke due to a blood clot on the brain a day after receiving the vaccine. She died a few days after that. Now, it’s quite possible this was just a rare case which would have happened anyway but, the fact that there several similar cases being recorded suggests the vaccine is the cause.
Thanks to you and Sandra (above) for explaining this. Can you give some examples of where the rollout has been halted because 50 deaths have been reported. I am guessing the number of people vaccinated was much smaller and/or they were groups who much less likely to die anyway e.g. childhood vaccines. So 50 reported deaths would be cause for concern. Are you seriously suggesting that the half of the US population who were vaccinated are massively less likely to have died (without the vaccine) than the other half? Luckily we don’t have to guess at the age profile. It turns out the CDC keeps track of the age profile of those vaccinated: https://usafacts.org/visualizations/covid-vaccine-tracker-states/ It is strongly skewed towards 65 and older. I am sorry to hear of the student who died. I don’t know what she had for breakfast that day, but I bet there are a lot of other cases where young people had the same for breakfast and had a blood clot on the brain. You can’t draw conclusions about the role of the vaccine without a medical and statistical analysis – in particular is this kind of thing happening more often among young females that have… Read more »
And yet people like you have no problem believing that people reported as dying within 28 days of a positive pcr test are “covid deaths”. Do you not see the hypocrisy?
I remain amazed at the unthinking acceptance of the mRNA gene therapy injection. Young people, in particular, getting it when their chances of dying from the China virus is near zero, whilst the chance of adverse side effects from the jabs is about 75% (at least outward early effects). To take a concoction the ingredients of which are kept secret. It’s a failure of basic common sense. Even the sense of basic self-preservation seems to be shut down. Nobody I’ve talked to who’s had it has a clue about what is being injected into them. At most they have a vague idea that’s it’s experimental. Calling it a vaccine, that’s commended by the Pravda (BBC) and mainstream media in lockstep seems enough for them to entrust their health to a stranger with a syringe. No delving into the history of mRNA genetic technology for them, to find out that it never got approval by the FDA, that’s animals died en masse in trials. Only by pushing it through under an emergency use protocol, on the back of a massively hyped pandemic, with vaccine indemnity, has this highly dubious and dangerous medical procedure seen the light of day. Heavens… Read more »
Nobody is saying A caused B, they are pointing out a correlation and saying there might be a causal relationship.
Your proportional death numbers are meaningless without a breakdown of age groups, demographics and relative risks from the vaccine and the disease itself.
The 4000 figure, or whatever part of that might be vaccine deaths, is thought likely to be an underestimate due to under reporting.
Carlson compared the numbers to other vaccines which is more of a comparison than the MSM can ever be said to have done. I don’t understand your accusation that it’s not compared to medical malpractice. His point seems to be that it SHOULD be put in context.
Tucker said exactly that: A caused B. Your premise is wrong. Then you go on to make various speculations, I am not writing a research paper here and getting dis-aggregated vaccine data isn’t so easy, My relative numbers are more meaningful than Tucker’s absolute numbers. Who said the MSM is the benchmark for reporting ?
I am illustrating how you could ‘put things in context’. Not sure what you are doing except illustrating the pot-shot fallacy, Very common online.
Those who dispute the almost 4000 deaths after covid19 vaccination in the US usually say “these reports aren’t claiming causation. It’s just coincidence”.
The counter to this lie is that, if it was simple coincidence, that is, than people do die & if you vaccinate enough people, you’ll get a number of coincidental deaths.
Well, yes, that’d true. But what isn’t true is that this very large increase in deaths following covid19 vaccination is mere coincidence.
If it was, then try number of deaths would remain at the same rate, the same proportion of the population vaccinated, as it passed years. And that’s NOT what VAERS is telling us. Instead, almost ALL of the deaths reported shortly after vaccination are after covid19 vaccination.
The shocking statistic is that almost 99% of the deaths reported to VAERS after vaccination occurred after covid19 vaccination.
The balancing 1% were for ALL THE OTHER VACCINES COMBINED.
Anyone in denial now is a “coincidence theorist”.
Dr Mike Yeadon
Their counter foil to this will be that more reporting is occurring because of either more attention being paid in a smaller time period or because of anti-vax reporting and hysteria.
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Dr Mike Yeadon – seeing as you’re here… It was after first watching an interview with you last year that I first realised I possibly wasn’t just losing my mind – so thank you for speaking out and continuing to do so in the face of such adversity.
Not convinced this is that dr Mike Yeadon
Dear Doctor Yeadon, you are my hero. God bless you and keep you.
Anoher fact is that covid-19 vaccinations don’t make you instantly immune to covid-19. So some of those alleged 4,000 deaths were covid-19 deaths. I won’t belabor the point that dying with covid-19 is equivalent to dying of covid-19.
My understanding is that the medical profession can only assess ALL causes of death.Ascribing a single cause—except in some cases—is the causal reductionist fallacy. A very politically convenient tactic.
My understanding is that the VAERS system—-another gov’t disaster—is rubbish.
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)00947-8/fulltext
A correct comparison is to the number of people who would have died without the vaccines.
Vaccines should be relatively safe of course. Or, you could always use lockdowns and those marvelous masks. Just make sure they are permanent govt mandates with death penalties for violators. Is the UK a police state yet ?
It’s Utterly disgusting that the British MSM, British Politicians are Aiding and abetting to this catastrophe. they will NOT QUESTION any aspects of safety or Death figures published by GOVERNMENTS. Journalists are either bOUGHT or have Masks on their Brains. it’s absolutely astonishing how everyone is selling the public out & ultimately, ONLY & ONLY The People will have to sort all this out