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Why Boris Must Halt the Child Vaccine Programme

by Will Jones
3 June 2021 12:22 PM

There follows a guest post by Dr Ros Jones, a retired consultant paediatrician and member of HART.

If, a year ago, someone had asked if we should give children a brand-new vaccine with no long-term safety data for a disease that barely affects them, they would have been laughed out of court. But here we are today, considering doing exactly that and not even with the pretence that it is for their own safety. It is because adults think it is okay to ask children to take a medicine which may cause them harm to protect us. Yet the adults clamouring for this have all been vaccinated already. 

Two weeks ago, 40 UK doctors wrote to the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) and the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation (JCVI) calling for a halt to any proposals to widen the temporary emergency authorisation for COVID-19 vaccines to include children on the grounds of major safety concerns. We now learn that this is such a complex ethical question that the JCVI will pass the responsibility to the Prime Minister. The entire management of the pandemic has been politicised to the detriment of open scientific and ethical debate and it is totally inappropriate for child health to become a potential political football.  The urgency for such debate has increased by the approval, first in North America and now Europe, for vaccination of 12-to-17-year-olds, and Pfizer’s application is currently lodged with the MHRA. So what is the medical, ethical and legal basis for such a move?

The medical case for children

Children are mercifully at incredibly low risk for COVID-19, with the vast majority having mild to no symptoms, few hospital admissions and even fewer requiring intensive care. There were nine Covid-associated deaths in under-15s in the whole of 2020, all with prior life-limiting conditions and accounting for 0.3% of all cause deaths in this age group. Any adolescent at extremely high risk may already receive a vaccine and this should not inform policy for an entire age group. Long Covid has also been raised as a concern, but in children it is milder and shorter-lived than in adults, with studies reporting complete recovery.

Safety

So if the disease is extremely mild for children, what of potential adverse effects of vaccination? Tragically, in recent weeks we have seen reports of thrombotic thrombocytopenia (VITT), an extremely rare condition, occurring in a significant number of young adults following vaccination, with cerebral venous strokes, some fatal. VITT was not detected in any of the trials but the MHRA now quotes the incidence following AstraZeneca vaccination as 1 in 77,000, stating ‘the data shows there is a higher reported incidence rate in younger adult age groups compared with older groups’. Doctors advising an individual on benefits and risks are left to guess how much higher but AstraZeneca vaccine was withdrawn for under 30s and latterly under 40s, and the Oxford children’s trial was suspended. Pfizer appears to have similar thrombotic problems though possibly at a lower rate and this is likely to be a class effect involving the spike protein. With Pfizer, the Israel Health Ministry have confirmed that myocarditis is occurring  at a rate of 1 in 41,730 for the 2nd dose in young men aged 16-30s, but highest in 16-19s. These are not trivial side-effects: they are potentially fatal or life-changing and appear to be occurring at a rate which is higher than that of severe outcomes for childhood Covid infections. This is without considering any as yet unknown longer-term adverse effects and bearing in mind that only 1,134 children were vaccinated in the Pfizer trials. Following the tenet “First do no harm”, routine vaccination of children against COVID-19 is contra-indicated.

Societal benefits from vaccinating children

The consensus appears to be that children do not need this for themselves, but it is argued that vaccinating them could help reduce upward transmission from schools to older adults. In reality, schoolchildren have played only a small part in transmission of COVID-19, and adults living with young children have a reduced risk for severe illness. All older or vulnerable adults understandably concerned at the prospect of catching SARS-CoV-2 have now been offered one if not two doses of a vaccine which we are assured is highly effective.

Concerns about possible variants emerging in the unvaccinated have been questioned; trivial infections amongst schoolchildren might actually help boost the immunity of their adult contacts. It has also been suggested that vaccination could reduce disruption of education but of course there is a much simpler solution, which is to ensure that children who are unwell do not attend school and self-isolate with their household contacts as at present, while ending the requirement for all their healthy classmates to do the same. It is this measure, never used in any previous pandemic, which has done most to disrupt education, with an average of 40 pupils missing two weeks’ schooling for every one child with a positive test.

Law of consent

The principle of informed consent is central to good medical care. Consent must be given voluntarily and freely. Information should be relevant to the individual patient, covering benefits and risks, with questions answered fully and no inducement or coercion. It is, then, particularly worrying that teaching materials circulated to London schools show pictures of smallpox and polio victims followed by ‘When will I get the vaccine?’ and emotive questions such as ‘Would you take the vaccine to protect your friends and family?’ The teachers’ union ASCL has offered to facilitate vaccinations in schools, with peer pressure helping to ensure high uptake. It has also been hinted that relaxation of other measures such as face-masks in Welsh schools could be linked to vaccine rollout. ‘Gillick competence’, overriding parental consent, is technically possible too for 12-15s. Is this really the way that we would wish the nation’s children to be presented with this decision? 

Children have had a year of educational and emotional turmoil to protect those at the opposite end of the age range, who we are assured are now protected by their own vaccinations. It is now time, as it always should be, for adults to protect children. I hope our Prime Minister will agree.

First published on Conservative Woman and reproduced by kind permission.

Stop Press: There is now a petition on the U.K. Government site opposing childhood vaccinations.

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SilentP
SilentP
4 years ago

How can the bastards even be considering the vaccination of children?

Will no-one rid us of these turbulent beasts?

Last edited 4 years ago by SilentP
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Annie
Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  SilentP

They are far, far worse than beasts. Every beast protects its own young.

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prod_squadron
prod_squadron
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

They probably won’t be vaccinating their own children. Lloyd George gave one of the most persuasive speeches in the recruiting campaign for the First World War and then privately wrote to his wife talking about making sure their own son didn’t have to go.

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robwallser
robwallser
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

yes and destroys their education to make them stupid some protection

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Attaboy
Attaboy
4 years ago
Reply to  SilentP

are you just sitting around waiting for someone else to do the dirty work?

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Rowan
Rowan
4 years ago
Reply to  Attaboy

Are you?

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Attaboy
Attaboy
4 years ago
Reply to  Rowan

I am ready for action

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robwallser
robwallser
4 years ago
Reply to  Attaboy

i hope i kow what you mean but yes they are im afraid oh oh theres only 63 million of us and several dozen of these educated fools what can we do

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wantok87
wantok87
4 years ago
Reply to  SilentP

Not certain that Canterbury would accommodate all the culpable Political class and SAGE but idea not without merit.

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robwallser
robwallser
4 years ago
Reply to  SilentP

No only voters can do that and they didnt/wont/can’t etc

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MizakeTheMizan
MizakeTheMizan
4 years ago

It doesn’t make any sense, if you think this is about a virus and public health.

It makes perfect sense, when you know this is about a ‘vaccine passport’ and public control.

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Bella Donna
Bella Donna
4 years ago
Reply to  MizakeTheMizan

Exactly!

Certificate
Of
Vaccination
ID

= Covid

And its all linked to the Green Agenda – hence making life as difficult as possible for those plebs who want to go on holiday.

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Rowan
Rowan
4 years ago
Reply to  Bella Donna

And its all linked to the Green Agenda – hence making life as difficult as possible for those plebs who want to go on holiday.

It’s an awful lot worse than having holiday problems.

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Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  Bella Donna

“holidays restricted to the working class” – shouldn’t the Star or the Mirror or someone be running headlines about this?

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robwallser
robwallser
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

What you mean like opposition? (falls over laughing)

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Mike Yeadon
Mike Yeadon
4 years ago
Reply to  Bella Donna

Ultimately it’s about mass murder. Let’s not use the holidays excuse.

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Rowan
Rowan
4 years ago
Reply to  MizakeTheMizan

It’s makes even more sense, when you know it’s about depopulation.

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TORs
TORs
4 years ago
Reply to  MizakeTheMizan

Yes, it goes beyond just taking more billions for Pfizer, Johnson&Johnson and that nice Turkish new billionaire couple. To get you all onto vaccine passports you have to be (obviously) vaccinated and those who aren’t vaccinated must become pariahs. That strategy fails if your kids haven’t also been jabbed.

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Catee
Catee
4 years ago

Sadly another medico who fails to mention available treatments and the fact that if they were used the vaccines are unrequired for the majority of under 50s.

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Bella Donna
Bella Donna
4 years ago
Reply to  Catee

I’d go as far to say the ‘vaccines’ were unrequired for all ages. Adequate protection could have been given by the use of Vitamins C D and Zinc with Ivermectin and HCQ as treatments in the early stages of a respiratory disease.

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Rowan
Rowan
4 years ago
Reply to  Bella Donna

The vaccines are required for control and depopulation.

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robwallser
robwallser
4 years ago
Reply to  Rowan

Cooool!

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chris c
chris c
4 years ago
Reply to  Bella Donna

SACRILEGE!

but true

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robwallser
robwallser
4 years ago
Reply to  Bella Donna

thats like saying the whole pandemic was greatly exagerated and most of the measures not necessary because they didnt make any difference i dont understand im a simple British citizen.

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TORs
TORs
4 years ago
Reply to  Catee

The definitive interview about available treatments:
COVID, Ivermectin, and the Crime of the Century
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/bret-weinstein-darkhorse-podcast/id1471581521
Two-and-a-half hours, worth every minute. Hopefully another nail the coffin of WHO, Bill Gates and the world as we knew it.

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BeBopRockSteady
BeBopRockSteady
4 years ago
Reply to  Catee

Indeed. Zelenko Protocol is one pathway. There are others

https://c19protocols.com/

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Flying Saucer
Flying Saucer
4 years ago

Can we at least call “Boris” by the name used for him at his elite public school, in other words “Johnson”, in the headline. He is not some sort of “friend”, a benevolent uncle who comes to the rescue. This is a bought politician. His real name is Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson, and his heritage is far removed from the unwashed masses.

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Woden
Woden
4 years ago
Reply to  Flying Saucer

Or ‘Bozzer’ and all that chummy shite, just ; fucking bastardo’ is o. k.

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Matt Dalby
Matt Dalby
4 years ago
Reply to  Flying Saucer

Shouldn’t that be Alexander Boris de Pfizer Johnson.

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Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
4 years ago
Reply to  Flying Saucer

Perhaps his bodyguards should be named & shamed?
They are the ones preventing the people from having a ‘genuine discussion’ with Carrie’s monkey.

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RickH
RickH
4 years ago

“All older or vulnerable adults understandably concerned at the prospect of catching SARS-CoV-2 have now been offered one if not two doses of a vaccine which we are assured is highly effective.”

As one of that group, I have turned down the snake-oil therapy. “Assurance” from sources that have conflicting interests and who represent, essentially, a massive PR/advertising campaign does not cut the mustard. Basing that PR on a defined lie (that Covid is an exceptional event) also lends less credibility.

I don’t want to be used as a sales ploy for unethically giving a jab to young people. I’m not that selfish or deluded. If I could get it easily, I’d stick with the tried and tested safe Ivermectin – but, unfortunately, part of the sales campaign has been to kill competition from that reputable, non-scam, source.

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Annie
Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

We are assured.
It’s a lie.
They know it’s a lie.

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Julian
Julian
4 years ago

The whole vaccine program should be shut down.

Sadly though it won’t be, and the corona madness will probably never go away now that almost everyone has been jabbed. No-one likes to admit they’ve been had.

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Rowan
Rowan
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

No-one likes to admit they’ve been had.

Indeed they don’t. However a great many of the jabbed will have little option, other than to face reality, as every day their deteriorating health reminds them of how incredibly stupid they have been. For many of these people death will be the only release.

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Hester
Hester
4 years ago
Reply to  Rowan

I wonder how they will try and cover up deaths and side effects resulting from the vaccine if as suggested issues could arise in 1 year or 2 years time in those that have taken the drug, sorry its not a vaccine is it. I mean surely there is no way they will get from under taking blame and responsibility for coercing the populace to take an unlicensed drug that causes health problems. I can’t see how they will get away with it.

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baboon
baboon
4 years ago
Reply to  Hester

I can’t see how they will get away with it.

Covid-21
SARS-CoV-3
Some new flu (already seeing “first case of new scary bird flu in humans” in China)

Or they’ll just fudge the numbers and pretend nothing is happening. They are already getting away with ignoring VAERS/MHRA data – most people don’t have a clue what’s happening with adverse events.

I have to say though that the new anti-protest legislation, and some other legislation (can’t remember but UK Colum covered it) which could basically ban any media other than the approved MSM – is surely not a coincidence. There’s all kind of f*ckery going on at the moment.

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Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  baboon

Land sakes! Big pharma have been successfully smearing cheap and effective preventatives/cures to cancer for many years, resulting in many needless deaths. I reckon they’ll find a way.

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mmacg
mmacg
4 years ago

“There were nine Covid-associated deaths in under-15s in the whole of 2020, all with prior life-limiting conditions and accounting for 0.3% of all cause deaths in this age group.”

Pulled punches and poorly prepared arguments such as this lose arguments and debates.

The correct way to frame is information would be:

There were nine Covid-associated deaths in under-15s in the whole of 2020, all with prior life-limiting conditions. There were no deaths, none, zero, of healthy children from Covid. Therefore there is essentially zero risk of death from Covid for children. This cannot be said for vaccination, therefore there is no scientific, medical, ethical or moral basis for vaccinating children.

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Rowan
Rowan
4 years ago
Reply to  mmacg

Thanks, you have truly put things into proper perspective.

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Milo
Milo
4 years ago
Reply to  mmacg

couldn’t agree with you more but the narrative will be “you don’t want to kill granny do you?”

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Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  Milo

Yes. I wonder if Granny wants to put her grandchildren at risk. I know mine didn’t.

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mmacg
mmacg
4 years ago
Reply to  Milo

Granny is already vaccinated, if she wants to be. Vaccinating the kids will not provide any additional protection for her whatsoever.

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Manjushri
Manjushri
4 years ago

In my humble opinion, it’s not up to our elected politicians to make any decisions regarding who gets injected with a poison.
That responsibility is with an unelected global elite and their big-pharma billionaire and political lackeys. I believe we are truly in the age of corporate fascism and true democracy is an illusion.

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Bella Donna
Bella Donna
4 years ago
Reply to  Manjushri

As none of the elite have died from covid or the jab I believe the decision who dies has already been taken.

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Woden
Woden
4 years ago
Reply to  Bella Donna

Or even had the jab??

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Rowan
Rowan
4 years ago
Reply to  Woden

That really goes without saying.

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QuickDrawMcGraw
QuickDrawMcGraw
4 years ago
Reply to  Woden

Absolutely! I don’t believe for a second that any of these so-called elites have had the same ‘jab’ as the rest of the plebs.

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ellie-em
ellie-em
4 years ago
Reply to  QuickDrawMcGraw

I don’t believe either, that any of the so-called elites have had the ‘deadly’ virus. Anything in the news reporting they had the virus was just another fear mongering tactic to make the masses panic and believe if ‘they’ could get it, what hope was there for the rest.

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zners
zners
4 years ago
Reply to  Manjushri

You’re right. They’re simply circus clowns. Biden, Johnson, Trudeau. The good news though is that believe me these individuals are no Hitlers. They have no balls nor spines to achieve what they want with force and are in fact mighty fearful of the public. In fact it is the very public that are funding their agenda, so all one needs to do is to stop funding them and severe their parasitic lifeline.

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Manjushri
Manjushri
4 years ago
Reply to  zners

I reckon if these circus clowns do not perform as directed by the elite puppet masters (or rather ring master😊) they will be fired (literally) and replaced by ruthless bastards and bitches. It happens….., like the 2 African heads of state that recently came to unexpected and premature demise. Coincidently they had both critised the WHO, UN and World Bank about Covid. Now the new heads of state follow the NWO agenda.

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Small guy
Small guy
4 years ago

“adults living with young children have a reduced risk for severe illness” – more information on the magnitude of this effect? Certainly seems likely – https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-56483445. Immune systems generally don’t seem to function correctly when kept in too sterile an environment.

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helenf
helenf
4 years ago

According to the latest Euromomo graphs, there was a spike in excess mortality in the 15-44 year age group in Israel in week 17. I wonder if this has anything to do with the rollout of vaccination in the younger age group?
https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps/

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RickH
RickH
4 years ago

The only question I have is why “Boris” (horrible, cosy familiarity when dealing with a psychopath) would halt the programme?

He’s never worked for the public good in the whole of his narcissistic career.

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prod_squadron
prod_squadron
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

Boris Johnson gave a speech in New York when he was elected PM, the speech where he babbled about technology and the future and terrifying limbless chickens. In that whole speech he had no specifics about anybody and anything except for one group who he went out of his way to name as an outrageous roadblock to progress. Guess what it was? Anti-vaxxers.

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J4mes
J4mes
4 years ago
Reply to  prod_squadron

Well us so-called ‘anti-vaxxers’ are now regarded as so evil, we’re literally the monster under everybody’s bed. Check out this disgusting article in the i if you can bear it:

https://inews.co.uk/culture/the-anti-vax-conspiracy-channel-4-review-andrew-wakefield-piers-corbyn-coronavirus-1030277

It is undoubtedly incitement of hatred and potential violence towards those who do not want to jab.

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Paul B
Paul B
4 years ago
Reply to  J4mes

If 75% have had it then 25% of 70m is still pretty formidable

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Rowan
Rowan
4 years ago
Reply to  Paul B

And that 25% will have determination and much better health.

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prod_squadron
prod_squadron
4 years ago
Reply to  J4mes

Wow, yes I see what you mean. Charming article.

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prod_squadron
prod_squadron
4 years ago

Looking at the JCVI minutes from ages ago, they were already talking with no qualms about vaccinating 16-18 year olds. Then there was a meeting note which said they thought they’d better double check the legality and decided they were obliged to follow the current wording of the emergency approval ie just for 18 years and above for the time being until child trials complete. As I say, no health scruples, qualms etc evident in the minutes.

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Winston Smith
Winston Smith
4 years ago

Anybody who supports this needs to be taken outside and given a kicking.

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Annie
Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  Winston Smith

Anybody selling steel toecaps?

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Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Or Hobnail boots?

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imp66
imp66
4 years ago
Reply to  Fingerache Philip

I have a sledgehammer!

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helenf
helenf
4 years ago

Is there any petition opposing vaccination of children against covid I can sign that doesn’t endorse clinical trials? I oppose said vaccination programme period. I don’t want a single child to be put at risk by a completely unnecessary and potentially harmful medical intervention, whether in a clinical trial or otherwise.

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prod_squadron
prod_squadron
4 years ago
Reply to  helenf

Good point.

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Jane G
Jane G
4 years ago
Reply to  helenf

You could try usforthem.com
They wrote a letter called NotForThem and are calling for additional signatures against vaccinating children.
I’ve signed so many things recently and am fairly sure I signed this one, too.

Couldn’t see anything in it that mentioned clinical trials; we know they have happened in the US hence the news about myocarditis in some vaxxed teens.

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helenf
helenf
4 years ago
Reply to  Jane G

Thanks. Unfortunately, near the bottom of their letter, they say this: “No Covid-19 vaccines should be approved or licensed for use in children until the current clinical trials are complete…”. I don’t understand why they included this statement as it flies in the face of everything they say about children being at minimal risk from covid. Indeed, just a few sentences earlier, they state “even after vulnerable adults worldwide have been offered the vaccine, it still would be inappropriate to vaccinate healthy children.” We should be demanding a halt not just to the vaccination programme but also to clinical trials in children. They should not be treated as unnecessary guinea pigs.

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Susan
Susan
4 years ago
Reply to  helenf

Check out LifeSite News.

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JoRoMo
JoRoMo
4 years ago
Reply to  helenf

The parliamentary petition is hoping to buy time – it’s not perfect, but it’s a starting point.

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Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
4 years ago
Reply to  helenf

A hammer in the hand is worth two petitions in the bush.

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Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
4 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

Or…. when you are really, really angry… why not change your Facebook avatar as a protest?
That’ll show ’em!

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leicestersq
leicestersq
4 years ago

The only good thing that has come out of all of this is that we can now say with certainty that every person advising to vaccinate children should be sacked and never work again for government, and any Doctor advising to do so or participating in this should be struck off the register.

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adamino
adamino
4 years ago

Evil fuckers. There. Said it.

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SkepticalHomme
SkepticalHomme
4 years ago

It’s monstrous what is happening, also the subtle, insidious forms of pressure that are being exerted to push people into getting a vaccine. I work for a large multinational conpany, and this week a very senior manager told all our emps in a large territory that we should get vaccinated for reasons of ‘social solidarity’. I indicated to the nurse at the site where I work that I wouldn’t be getting zapped, cited the Israeli safety data, and also the fact that I disapproved of said position. In her emailed reply she doubled down on the solidarity point (I paraphrase) “it’s our social duty because as with any contagious disease, it lessens the risk of transmission to those around us.” I countered by saying that w-out symptoms I didn’t see the point – read significant JAMA study last year debunking asymptomatic transmission – adding that obvs I wouldn’t come to the office with the flu! I find it so scary that we’ve reached the point that we’re now vaccinating kids and putting them at risk, as well as lining the pockets of big pharma and impoverishing the exchequer. Things have come to a pretty pass when the other side doesn’t… Read more »

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Kat
Kat
4 years ago
Reply to  SkepticalHomme

Well done for resisting this pressure and coercion. We are living in a dystopia which seems to have no end to it.

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SkepticalHomme
SkepticalHomme
4 years ago
Reply to  Kat

Thanks Kat. It’s nice to find some kindred spirits on here.

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LS99
LS99
4 years ago
Reply to  SkepticalHomme

Well done Skeptical Homie – it’s hard to resist pressure from your employer.

The only thing I would be keen to point out to your senior colleague is that given that the pharma companies are exempt from prosecution and the UK government payout is a paltry £120,000 (and that’s probably quite hard to come by) and so any company making vaccines a requirement or even putting pressure on employees would leave itself wide open to legal actions.

Have they done a bloody health and safety risk assessment, for starters?

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SkepticalHomme
SkepticalHomme
4 years ago
Reply to  LS99

That’s a really good point, and not one I took up with the nurse – but they’d do well to consider it. As with many large companies, many in the lower ranks are aware of such issues, but when a senior manager makes such a comment – well, then, of course it’s not recklessly irresponsible but eminently sane. Lol. But then, black is white and white black for most people at the moment, right? The world’s gone mad.

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prod_squadron
prod_squadron
4 years ago
Reply to  SkepticalHomme

Ugghh. Hate that kind of thing. Informed consent should be about your health and risks, not informing you about social solidarity. Imagine alerting someone to safety data about serious adverse events and someone saying yeah but social solidarity come on take the risk!! And in a workplace as well where it should be none of anyone’s business!!

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SkepticalHomme
SkepticalHomme
4 years ago
Reply to  prod_squadron

Fully agree – I was very surprised to read her reply. You expect something even handed (at worst a comment such as “well, I respectfully disagree but this is your right”), not a cold-eyed lecture on your social ‘duties’. Oh, the irony.

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Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
4 years ago
Reply to  SkepticalHomme

And her name is….. ?

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Mr Taxpayer
Mr Taxpayer
4 years ago
Reply to  SkepticalHomme

My response to company, would be a letter to be signed by the CEO, CFO and the nurse wherein they agree to accept full liabilty and financial responsibility for any and all side effects arising from their instruction.

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sophie123
sophie123
4 years ago
Reply to  SkepticalHomme

“Social solidarity” when it comes to vaccines with the potential for fatal side effects necessitates some members of the society “taking one for the team” and dying or suffering life altering effects. If we had true social solidarity, then we would recompense the injured or their families accordingly, like we do with injured servicemen with the military covenant.

But we don’t, do we? You get fucked up by the vaccine, you’re on your own. or a paltry £120k at best. That won’t do shit.

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kate
kate
4 years ago
Reply to  sophie123

The soldiers are not compensated, the MOD does all it can to get out of liability. Check out Gulf War Syndrome and how the multiple injuries suffered by servicemen were psychologised.

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  SkepticalHomme

I’m a teacher and will not be injected, nor will my children. It’s a hill I’m prepared to die on frankly. These are war crimes in my opinion and when this murderous cult falls, most people will have an awful lot of soul searching to do. We won’t.

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SkepticalHomme
SkepticalHomme
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

As regards your own position, bravo! But we have to question whether anyone will be brought to book over this, or whether the truth will really come out. Doubtless, already, adverse reactions to the vaccines are going unreported – even including deaths (probs put down to Covid), and the majority of the populace all has a dog in the game, having gone bought the vaccine panacea story. Hell, I even know 2 close colleagues who have had severe reactions to Pfizer, but just take it as par for the course. Also, just look at the vomit inducing orgy of virtue signalling spewed across social media by everyone’s ‘friends’ after getting jabbed, UK Health Sec crying, the fact that no politician bought and paid for by big pharma, or at the very least sold a lie, is going to admit that they were duped or were a smeg for brains, not to mention the hopelessly ill-educated and lazy journalistic caste who maintain fear as homeostasis. Don’t count on the truth coming out anytime soon. Au contraire – they’ll probs find some way to blame us as anti-vaxxers!

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flyingjohn
flyingjohn
4 years ago
Reply to  SkepticalHomme

Send this photo to your nurse.

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Mike Yeadon
Mike Yeadon
4 years ago
Reply to  SkepticalHomme

FWIW I support your position 100%.

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Friedrich Stapß
Friedrich Stapß
4 years ago

Nobody’s halting any programmes. I just happened upon an op-Ed for Handelsblatt by Joschka Fischer, 68 revolutionary, Green foreign minister and pacifist anti-IraqWar German hero. Written last July. Here are some highlights in my translation. Some of it is quite sensible. ”We control nature only up to a certain point – which is not defined by short-term human interests. No further. All fantasies of migrating into outer space won’t change this.” Gradually it turns the screw. ”Objectively, though – and this is the lesson of the COVID-19 crisis – a far greater level of responsibility is demanded of human civilisation. Subjectively humankind recognises this, but it is not (yet) ready to draw the consequences of responsibility and inaugurate the great transformation.” All guns blazing by the end: ”With COVID-19, we have learned to listen to scientific advice. Why do we not do this in the case of far more dangerous developments that are already affecting our reality today – global warming, and the climate crisis?” “The most developed of the industrial societies will be asked to make the transformation to a responsibility society first. Because they have the know-how and the necessary capital and they set the developmental trends for… Read more »

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Cecil B
Cecil B
4 years ago

Stop calling the cunt Boris

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Friedrich Stapß
Friedrich Stapß
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

THANK YOU.

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Friedrich Stapß
Friedrich Stapß
4 years ago

You’ve really done an advertising deal with a company providing PCR testing? SCEPTIC10%OFF

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I am Spartacas
I am Spartacas
4 years ago

There are probably more …

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  I am Spartacas

Their trials at Nuremberg 2.0 will be particularly entertaining to watch.

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
4 years ago

As a teacher in a high school, this is my red line. I have coexisted with the physical and mental abuse of children in the form of testing, masks and so-called home learning, but if and when my school begins to either promote or worse still, perform these ‘vaccinations’ on-site, I will be issuing my employer, and the local authority with a Notice of Liability and actively preventing children and their parents from agreeing to it. Enough is enough. We all need to face up to the fact that this nightmare is real, and is as bad as those of us who are awake and aware feared it would be 15 months ago. Whether this is about some nefarious depopulation agenda or just mass psychosis, we NEED to stop this and push back NOW.

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Cecil B
Cecil B
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Good luck. The plebs are loving it. Let them die I say

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

Not the children though.

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Annie
Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Who will, if they live, grow up to be even zombier than their parents. Look at the current bunch of spineless wimps who call themselves students.

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

The sixth formers I teach fell over themselves to line up for the jab (which one of their parents had lined up at a local clinic which had spare shots one day). It’s one of the most chilling displays of ignorance, peer pressure and stupidity I’ve ever seen. They were comparing adverse reactions the next day like they were war wounds, and two of them were at home sick.

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Milo
Milo
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

my worry would be how will their health and functioning be affected say two years from now – my teenage niece and nephews have been jabbed, supposedly intelligent people but didn’t give it so much as a second thought. If the dangers are to be believed then I fear for them.

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  Milo

Literally none of us know the dangers, including them. It’s like a horrible nightmare.

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kate
kate
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Which jab did they get? Was it Pfizer or the AZ?

Pfizer accumulateds in the ovaries and the spike and LNPs are toxic. This makes me think it could be sterilising.

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kate
kate
4 years ago
Reply to  kate

http://enformtk.u-aizu.ac.jp/howard/gcep_dr_vanessa_schmidt_krueger/

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SkepticalHomme
SkepticalHomme
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Yes, good luck. I can’t begin to imagine how much pressure you must face in an educational setting like this – from the authorities and, no doubt, close colleagues.

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  SkepticalHomme

I’d say 80% of people do not have strong opinions either way and in my experience they buckle under the slightest bit of scrutiny. Have found it quite easy so far to resist – emailed the head the day the mask mandate came in and said I’d be having no part of it, citing numerous studies and have been maskless throughout completely unchallenged. It’s easier to push back than most people think.

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Mr Taxpayer
Mr Taxpayer
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Emailed my daughters school the day they went back and she’s been free-faced.

My answer to “do you have a mask?” is “Do you have a warrant card?” The conversation has ended at that point every time.

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BeBopRockSteady
BeBopRockSteady
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Stay. Fight. Just don’t abandon it please. Organise the parents. Give them a voice. We need people like you who see the evil.

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  BeBopRockSteady

Have no intention of abandoning. I came to the realisation a few months ago that being passive is a sure way to end up in a hopeless situation so I intend to fight all the way and injecting this bullshit into children is something I will not stand back and allow to happen.

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ellie-em
ellie-em
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

On behalf of the children and the decent members of society, I humbly thank you.

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Tillysmum
Tillysmum
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Thank you for an inspiring post.

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Cecil B
Cecil B
4 years ago

Three weeks to save The NHS. Turned out to be bollocks

Second lockdown to save Christmas. Bollocks Christmas was cancelled

Lockdown kept going to await the ‘vaccines’. ‘Vaccines’ would set them free and allow travel. Bollocks never happened

When are these morons going to wake up

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smithey
smithey
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

Lockdown will never end and the moronic public will never wake up.
I went out for lunch on Monday with a group of 6 friends. We sat outside on the terrace, nobody came near us and there was only 1 other party of 4, sitting at the opposite side of the terrace. The inside of the restaurant was completely empty. When we came to leave, everyone in my party dutifully put on their marks to walk through the empty restaurant. I despair.

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  smithey

It’s a religious cult and you’re not a member. Luckily for you, when this murderous evil bullshit comes crashing down, you’ll have less soul searching to do than the cult members you dined with.

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BJs Brain is Missing
BJs Brain is Missing
4 years ago

How much longer is it going to take for the penny to drop? We are being mocked and ridiculed. And all the majority do and say is “yes sir, no sir, three bags full sir…”

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stewart
stewart
4 years ago

Arguing against vaccination is a complete waste of time.
It’s like trying to reason with a stampeding crowd.

The only thing that will derail covid jabs at this point is serious collateral damage on a large scale.

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  stewart

True, but the ‘vaccination’ of children is a different matter. If their parents are stupid enough to allow it, then they need protecting from both them and the authorities. We’re in Third Reich territory I’m afraid.

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kate
kate
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

I worked for a support group for people with CFS/ME. I have subsequently discovered that vaccination with aluminium containing vaccines is the most likely underlying cause for these types of illness.

I witnessed how this vulnerable group were attacked and stigmatised by their own government, along with the Gulf War veterans and the girls injured by Gardasil.

This has been going on for thirty years and they have successfully covered it up so far. These people are murderous criminals who cannot stop.

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kate
kate
4 years ago
Reply to  kate

The unravelling of all this is going to be so destructive and painful. Many will be injured and die. I do not know how to stop it. I had a nasty experience with old friends yesterday which underlined how brainwashed most people are.

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  kate

Yes, I think it’s about 80% of people who are just going with the flow, with a militant 10% on either side! You’re right – the unravelling will be extremely ugly and may even bring down governments all over the world, at which point we’re in uncharted territory. Try not to think about that too much; for now millions of children need protecting from state sponsored abuse, and possible sterilisation and/or genocide.

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Tillysmum
Tillysmum
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Wow, I so wish there were more people that think and act like you. It is so refreshing to hear that someone is fighting back. I wish you all the luck in the world.

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Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago

It’s alright, it’s only children they’re experimenting on.

Bunch of crooks.

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wantok87
wantok87
4 years ago

It is questionable if a doctor would be in breach of professional guidelines by providing a medical intervention which has no balanced risk benefit. It does not seem to be discussed but I am outraged that any clinician is considering vaccination in immature individuals. We have no idea of the effect on the long term unanticipated consequences. Medicine is littered with the complication of good ideas and intentions but then our leaders will not remember giving aspirin to children (Reye’s (Reye) syndrome is a rare but serious condition that causes swelling in the liver and brain.) mesh sling, etc

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adamino
adamino
4 years ago

Remember. We’re in this together…

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Occams Pangolin Pie
Occams Pangolin Pie
4 years ago

Why not let Johnson spin the bottle on this decision. Literally – why not?
The sheer criminal absurdity of this global juggernaut might as well be encouraged. JCVI or whatever they are called might wish to ensure the bottle is polished to facilitate its spin, and ensure that the Pie Minister is wearing safety specs. They can then consider their job done – they clearly don’t want to take any responsibility.
Perhaps the bottle spin could be put out at the end of the National Lottery.
Let the kids stay up to watch! A bit like the moon landings!

Wake me up someone.

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Newman20
Newman20
4 years ago

Fortunately both my children are adults. However, had they not been there is no way that I would have ever granted consent for scientists to carry out eugenics experiments on them.

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