“The argument is already over” about there being an extension to lockdown, according to one cabinet source. The real question, then, is “for how long will restrictions continue”. Reports suggest that the Government is considering extending lockdown by a month rather than by two weeks so as to give businesses “certainty” that “Freedom Day” won’t be delayed again. Er, come again?
For many businesses – including those which have yet to reopen since the easing of restrictions last month due to the continuation of social distancing guidelines, and those which are taking in little money compared with pre-lockdown levels for the same reason – a four-week extension to lockdown would provide only the certainty that survival will continue to be a great (and potentially impossible) struggle.
The Times has more.
Plans are being discussed for either a two-week or a four-week delay to the final easing of restrictions on June 21st, if the Indian variant of the coronavirus continues to lead to a significant rise in infections and hospital admissions.
The variant now accounts for nine in 10 cases and health leaders called yesterday for delay to prevent hospitals filling up with unvaccinated patients.
Ministers are concerned that a two-week delay would not give businesses the certainty they need because it might have to be extended. They said a four-week delay would ensure that more people in their forties have received two jabs and that the vaccinations have had time to take effect. “This is about giving people certainty,” the source said. “The worst-case scenario is that we ease restrictions and then have to implement them again. This has to be a one-way ticket.”
The Vaccines Minister Nadhim Zahawi today said that the Government must be “really careful” with reopening, telling Times Radio that officials must “continuously learn about how the virus is behaving”.
“We had a very big opening on May 17th where people could meet friends indoors, in a restaurant, in a pub, and socialise indoors as well,” he added. “And I think it’s important that we look at the data very carefully over this weekend and then share it with the nation.”
Some scientific advisers believe a month-long delay that pushes the end of restrictions into the school holidays will allow vaccination to catch up with the faster-spreading strain.
Another cabinet source said that they believed a two-week delay would be sufficient. “By June 21st everyone over 50 who wants a second jab should have had one,” the source said. “You just have to wait another couple of weeks so that they all have full antibody protection. At that point you really have protected the vulnerable.
“Of course there are businesses that want us to stick with June 21st but when Rishi [Sunak, the Chancellor] is letting it be known he’d be happy with a delay you know the argument is already over.”
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And another month after that and whoops it’s nearly autumn.
I really hope we have a Delta summer this year
How can it “continue to lead to significant increases in hospitalisations?” when it hasn’t done anything of the sort so far – yes a few more people in hospital, but fewer today than yesterday and still FAR fewer than the most optimistic SAGE view.
Indeed.
Lies. All lies.
It’s a measure of how desperate they have become.
if that twat Ferguson would turn his monitor upside down we’d be out of this by the end of England’s first innings
And by “upside down” you mean “right way up”
lol. yes – maybe one of his postgrads can check his office
be terrible if this entire catastrophe has been because ferguson set up his own computer!
It’s been nothing but lies since the beginning
Because it’s been extensively modeled by Neil Ferguson and he knows what he’s talking about, he’s a real scientist you know. He wears glasses and everything.
My bad, I will go back and revise my comment, best get my “facts” lined up – lol
And be’s git a straggly beard and no chin.
A former treasure of Australia, Paul Keating, used to say, when some stat was moving in the wrong direction, that it was “trending in the right direction”.
… and if they were really worried about hospitalisations, then Ivermectin would be an over-the-counter drug once more.
And they’d be insisting that GPs in the UK treat symptoms as early as possible instead of waiting until their patients can no longer breathe, which is much too late, and not censoring anyone who tries to apply their medical training and experience in the best interests of patients.
“Reports suggest that the Government is considering extending lockdown by a month rather than by two weeks so as to give businesses “certainty” that “Freedom Day” won’t be delayed again.”
lol! 3 weeks to flatten the curve
I was ready to copy and paste the same bit! And I was going to add “unless we successfully pull YET another variant/mutation out of our arses to mug up the masses with.
its beyond ridiculous! possibly even beyond-lol!
we want to give businesses certainty…..
That they will go bust before they are allowed to reopen.
Monkey Pox from Monkey Gunk?
Monkey Pox lockdown heading YOUR way
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-57431322
This was predicted back in April in the so-called “Whitehall leak”. Full details here:
https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/our-new-pandemic-sleep-deprivation-from-coronasomnia/#comment-5363190281
The final Milestone is due on June 21st when all reductions were promised to be lifted.
This will not be allowed to happen.
Vaccine passports/Track and Trace will be mandatory, as will masks and social distancing. The entire week of the 21st will be taken up with a “third wave” which will suddenly be “rampant” and this will now be attributed to the South African Variant, which will now be officially more deadly than what we have had previously. This will be accompanied with yet more issues with vaccine supplies. One of the vaccines will be said to be effective against the South African strain, but a problem with its manufacture will emerge.
Just posted above. Hadn’t seen your comment first.
Problems with getting Pfizered announced today. Reason to keep us in the gulag.
This is all so predictable. Any old excuse for a continuation of restrictions / fear. This gives times to up “case” numbers through increases testing and altered PCR cycle ratio. I expect they will also rapidly create some hospitalisations and deaths (with not of) to demonstrate that restrictions must continue after the initial month and put down any dissent by ramping up the fear factor again. Then it will be lockdown (in practice) until everyone gets a “booster” injection tailored to the variant of choice. No sooner will this have been done (taking us to Christmas at least) than woopiedo another variant will have been found and the whole merry-go-round will continue indefinitely.
considering all cause mortality has plummeted
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/992620/Weekly_Flu_and_COVID-19_report_w23.pdf
page 58
I think the Indian variant is making people rise from the grave
Well – looking at Indian data, the scariant might be considered a cure when we compare UK figures 🙂
APRIL: “The final milestone is due on June 21st where all restrictions are promised go be lifted. This will not be allowed to happen.
The entire week of the 21st will be taken up by a 3rd wave, which will suddenly be “rampant.”
All the measures are aimed at two things: vaccine passports and lockdowns starting next winter. The ultimate goal is to have the public put back in their box.”
There will be mass rioting and disobedience if that happens.
. . . and I welcome it.
Rioting should have happened more than a year ago. I find the LACK of riots in the face of this tyranny much more terrifying than any virus.
And therein is one of the main, existential problems:
why do the masses think that they have to obey some people “better than themselves”?
Bribes work
There’s nothing for them to gain by rioting. The last round of UK riots (about 10 years ago now? Coincidence?) seemed to descend fairly quickly into an all you can nick buffet of big screen tellys and games consoles, possibly as an expression of frustration at the outcome of the 2008 ‘crash’ since the economic impact of it meant many were even less likely to be able to afford to buy those things. This time, the pointy finger of blame has yet to settle on anyone, for many reasons, so there’s nowhere for the mob to direct their anger.
Disobedience – some, yes. That’s all. Who’s going to riot, based on the experience of the last eighteen months?
but how can the majority of the double jabbed British public fall for that??? why would vaxx passports be worth anything if the jabs so clearly don’t work that only lockdowns are the answer??? so many holes in the argument it looks like a piece of swiss cheese
This looks like they are spinning a threat of a month delay to allow them to go for a two week delay and have the mugs be grateful.
I hope you’re right- that’s about all we can hope for. I can just see Saint Boris expostulating: “Looooooooooooooooook!!!! I saved your summer! I’m a hero!!!! Lick my boots!!!! I’m sorry we had to squeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeze the brakes.”
A two week delay to a relatively meaningless event, given that we know because they’ve said so and the contracts are signed to the tune of £100s of millions, that mass testing, track and trace, international travel restrictions, SAGE, vaccine madness etc will continue. The covid industry is now enormous and bestows money and power on those in control. The 21st June won’t change that one jot. The only glimmer of hope I can see is if the masses get too used to freedom, if the govt overcook the freedom on the 21st, and refuse to go back when the next lockdowns are imposed. But I don’t see much grounds for optimism, yet.
Another month to get the over 40s double vaccinated, then it will be another month for the over 30s and so on until winter and we all know what happens next.
Watched Hugo Talks re the nurses trying to educate the morons queuing to be vaccinated. I really think these people are too stupid to live – good riddance if they do end up dying off.
A most depressing experience yesterday – friend OK with her kids getting jabbed because she believes in vaccines. No point trying to raise the issue of only being approved for emergency use, long term effects unknown, yellow card system – before I’d even opened my mouth I was firmly shut down.
Your conscience is clear if she kills her kids.
Then over 20s, then over 10s, younger children too maybe. Then round up us refuseniks? Then the boosters and flu vax to be cajoled into. Then of course winter.
It seems certain some healthy children who would not have died from covid will die of these vaccines. But ……. the benefits out way the risks ya know!!!
The benefits to zombies outweigh the risks to children.
I knocked this up a few days ago. It sits about right with your comment.
Nice one, it has that public information ad look about it 🙂
Doublespeak at its finest. I’m just getting on with life, and even more so after the 21st. If people want to remain gagged and be ‘vaccinated’ out of existence, that’s their decision. Otherwise just leave me and my family alone. My freedom and yours is inalienable and no government can take it away from you.
Hang on, health leaders said yesterday that they weren’t concerned? I knew we were doomed the moment Gove betted on a 21st opening.
It’s time for mass resistance. I just ripped down every covid sign on my highstreet. Do the same.
I think you need to be more subtle.
Replace them with say you only have a 99.999% chance of living through covid.
Mr H did the same the other day! The saps in naps just stared with a “does not compute” expression in the eyes.
Your Freedom is over if you leave it up to the establishment.
Does he think people are playing his little reindeer games? Everyone I know stopped ages ago.
There’s a word for this (OK there are lots of words for this), and the word is “torture.”
“… so as to give businesses “certainty” that “Freedom Day” won’t be delayed again.”
Utter nonsense! If they release lockdown on 21st June as planned, there will still be certainty that lockdown will still be released four weeks later!
The big casualty in here is hospitality, music and theatres, is this sector going to stand by and let itself be decimated? Individually we can ignore the rules as we wish, the police seem to have given up enforcing rules but you cannot go to a theatre if it is not open or only issues limited tickets. Time for them to stand up to this nonsense.
On a legal note, the English regs for wearing face-masks on trains automatically expire on 20th June, as yet they have made no moves to renew these. Will they replace these rules with guidelines? Face-mask wearing is starting to slip away as it is, if it goes to guidelines I think many will ditch their masks and this potent symbol of covid compliance will have gone.
The hospitality, entertainment and holiday industries have doomed themselves by their servile cowardice.
It’s back to street theatre, folks. Written, directed and acted by Us.,
Is that true about the laws on face nappies on trains automatically expiring? They’ll keep quiet about it if so. I go bare-faced most of the time anyway. I would put stickers on all the notices about them, but trains and stations are very full of CCTV.
A number of unknown perpetrators keep defacing our Covid safety signage.
Unfortunately we cannot identify them from our CCTV images due to those perpetrators wearing facemasks, hoodies and baggy clothes.
This petition to stop the sale and misuse of our personal NHS data is close to breaking the 200,000:
http://chng.it/9gnbcq4Mvk
Stopping the government from doing this would surely serve a major blow to their intention to roll out the ‘vaccine passports’.
Whats the petition called as I looked on the petitions website and was unable to find it.
We’ll lie to you once more in order that you will trust us more next time.
It’s very strange. The bulk of people I talk to now are resigned to June 21 not happening, confess that it’s all rubbish and yet admit they’ll follow the ‘rules’. The PsyWar is won (or lost, from our perspective) Part of me won’t feel too sad when 1000s are taken this winter due to being jabbed.
We love to follow rules, even when we know they are stupid. I see it often, the anxiety in people when the rules aren’t clear and they don’t know how they are supposed to behave. I see this behaviour in myself and it requires effort to overcome this.
The narrative needs to change – spread the word it’s ok to break the rules. From June 21st tell people it’s their civic duty to break the rules.
There must be a tipping point where when x% of people aren’t wearing masks in shops that it will tell those who don’t want to wear them that it’s ok to take them off, they aren’t going to get told off for not following the rules.
COVID newspeak of the week: yet another delay of unspecified length will increase certainty
This is now beyond parody.
Do you think they’re all in fits of hysterics behind closed doors?
It’s a bit like a fraudster saying to their victim, “now I know I fucked you over the last 16 times, but this time really is different. OK?”
just in case, we should delay reopening by 9 years
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2021.669432/full
Masking Emotions: Face Masks Impair How We Read Emotions
Is masking to distance children from their parents?
Marx wrote something like ‘That the abolition of the family economy is inseparable from the abolition of the individual economy, is self-evident’.
Zahawi thinks that officials must “continuously learn about how the virus is behaving”.
He added that if Covi refused to behave the Government would have no other choice but to “smack its bottom and send it to bed early without any supper”.
A poll from YouGov showed that 72% of respondents favoured this action, whilst FullFact have disproven those who say you can’t smack a virus’s bottom as “ignorant of the science.”
Ministers consider having Frank Bruno punch people to prevent injuries.
It is still 21sy June as far as I am concerned, whatever the government says.
“We need to burn the village in order to save it” sort of reasoning springs to mind.
The government said these punches were to prevent domestic abuse being needed again.
RIDICULOUS
Got to ask but who’s actually getting tested for all these so called “cases” to be reported?
There is a testing centre close to where I live and I hardly see anybody there. Last week the wife and I went away for a few days and opposite the hotel was a testing centre and whilst loading the car the centre opened at 9:00 there were 4 cars waiting to go in. We left at 9:30 and there was nobody there and the staff looked like they were settling down to a hard days boredom.
People I know get tested at home with LFT
NHS, care home and other workers
We have perfectly healthy people getting tested at home with these tests who are ‘failing’ resulting in large numbers of people going into quarantine all adding to the stats for something that isn’t really there. Institutional madness.