Perspex screens appear to have joined the long list of measures introduced to mitigate the impact of SARS-CoV-2 which actually make matters worse. Alex Wickham of Politico has got hold of a leaked planning document describing what Stage 4 of the roadmap will look like and what social distancing measures will remain in place throughout the winter and possibly beyond. He reports that the Government has been urged to ban the use of these screens in pubs, restaurants and offices.
Not only do Perspex screens not stop the spread of the virus, they may actually increase transmission! More from Alex here:
Problems include them not being positioned correctly, with the possibility that they actually increase the risk of transmission by blocking airflow. Therefore there is clear guidance to ministers that these perspex screens should be scrapped.
Even if perspex screens are scrapped, the guidelines on face masks will likely remain place in some settings “long-term”, Alex Reports, despite evidence of their benefits being equally threadbare.
Stop Press: You can read more about the leaked Stage 4 planning document here.
To join in with the discussion please make a donation to The Daily Sceptic.
Profanity and abuse will be removed and may lead to a permanent ban.
There is no limit to what Mr Johnson’s own MPs will put up with, the Covid Recovery Group mean nothing if they do not resign the Whip and deprive the government of a majority. Everything the government does is planned to increase or maintain arbitrary power and to ruin lives.
On anything covid related, Labour and Lib Dems and SNP will vote for lockdowns. But if the CRG refused to vote for the govt on anything, they could try and blackmail the PM. It’s a big step, arguably worth a try given the gravity of the situation.
The ‘This House is being misled’ statement by the speaker should have far reaching consequences. Traditionally it is a resignation issue.
Echo’s of the “first” civil war?
Those days have gone.
Lib Dems tend to abstain as they did yesterday
Yeah, so no point getting behind them, whatever the brave and clever Clare Craig believes.
Until we actually get an opposition in Parliament a few Con MPs resigning the whip won’t make any difference. It’s also highly possible that much of the protesting is a ‘beard’ to give the impression there is debate within the party. They’ve consistently stated they would never vote so as to bring the Government down.
As I’ve posted above, they are never going to defeat the govt on covid because of Labour and other opposition parties. They would have to threaten to bring the government down. The PM might well call an election in that case, and we’d end up with zero sceptical MPs in parliament. It’s a tricky one.
They will not resign the whip; they have too much invested in career progression to throw it all away on a point of principle.
“face masks will likely remain in some settings “long-term” – I haven’t worn one since the start and I don’t intend to in the future.
Cloth with holes hundreds of times bigger than a virus they’re mythically supposed to stop work better than solid perspex apparently…
If you believe that you’ll believe 3 weeks to flatten the curve.
“Just one last heave” and we’ll be there!!!!!!
Face knickers have always made me heave, both when they’re on zombie faces and when they’re lying in the gutter
Ah, but facemasks stop droplets right so they must be effective. So do perspex screens. Oh wait…
And yet amazingly the people do believe it. I recently convinced a woman wearing a mask in her car that she didn’t need to as the car’s pollen filter did the trick and she thanked me – she’s probably still sat in the car…
But – to be brutally frank : “you” don’t matter. It’s getting others to agree and act that is the object – and, given the compliance, we haven’t been very successful, given that our individual refusals have been going on since the beginning.
Be as frank as you like, I agree with you. It’s the Hard of Thinking that is the key and I haven’t got much hope.
The maskless, being rather less likely to press the self destruct button by agreeing to Covid vaccination, will form a larger percentage of the population (what’s left of it) as the vaccine damage begins to really kick in.
They really love them don’t they. It’s become a symbol of the culture. This one’s going to take a long time to defeat, but it must be done.
And nothing says “be afraid, be VERY afraid” more than a face nap. Got to keep this fear going somehow…
Poor, sad perspex manufacturers. After a run on it, now there’ll be a giant scrap heap of it.
So much for the green agenda.
I wonder if any of the manufacturers had ‘friends’ in government? I suspect if they did, they would have been warned, in a very friendly way, that the longer term use of screens and manufacture of such would not be as lucrative as PPE contracts.
I’ve been trying to buy some, for a DIY project, a piece 50cm2 was priced at £35. Now I’ll just check the tip next time i go 😀
A checkout woman at my local Wilko works all day behind a perspex screen, wears a perspex space helmet and has a muzzle over her face.
Who would’ve thought these things could block airflow?
Jesus wept. All to sell a few paint tins. The Front Line Workers.
Front Line Wankers.
Are people still under the delusion that this is about health? They increase isolation, crush spirits and inculcate obedience. That’s the point, and that’s why they’ll stay.
Perspex screens for an aerosole virus was always just another theatrical prop for a very badly scripted tragicomedy. This country is looking more and more like a phuquing crime scene.
Everyone knows the virus can only travel in straight lines from your mouth to your victim’s.
It absolutely will not go under or around that perspex.
…and the virus is completely absent at certain time’s of the day and at certain events. Gee, who’d have thought it?
They won’t be happy until it looks like a war scene.
Pantomime. Not theatre. It’s pantomime.
Who knew…?
Why does the report only mention pubs, restaurants and offices? Every supermarket or larger shop I go in now has them at every checkout point, whether manned or self-service. They must have cost a fortune to install. The same principle also applies to the visor contraptions as well, and cloth masks. So, in short, the conclusion is that all masks and physical barriers should be discouraged if you believe there is a deadly virus circulating in society. This really is a total farce.
a visor should work better than a mask as a visor at least covers something with ACE2 receptors (the eyes).
A visor only works in a clinical setting with actual harmful pathogens, like resuscitatiing a patient with, say, meningococcal disease.
Habitually wearing a visor in the wider community is pointless.
You do know it’s a hoax, don’t you?
Our local Aldi have had what looks like the same huge sheets of plastic up between the checkouts, since the start of all this. They look utterly filthy now.
Ironic but I just put my head round the screen when chatting to the check out staff. We’ve had some lovely conversations. I agree, the state of some of the screens leaves a lot to be desired. Perhaps customers should check their tetanus vax status before approaching. Yuck.
“They must have cost a fortune to install”
That phrase can explain so much of the shitshow.
1. Some one speculates about a risk and a solution. (E.g. the virus spreads through the air, a plastic screen will protect you.)
2. Those who stand to make money from the solution push the idea. They use the tried and tested health and safety intimidation and bullying tactics: better safe than sorry, you don’t want to be held responsible, everyone is doing it and you don’t want stand out looking reckless.
This dynamic and playback can pretty much explain to large degree every measure taken: screens, masks, distancing, lockdowns, vaccines.
The problem is that there never seem to be negative consequences when the “better safe than sorry” merchants are wrong.
Ditto the climate change predictors.
Or all those pushing the “white supremacists are the biggest threat to the nation.”
Or a multitude of others.
“They must have cost a fortune to install”
Which is why it was obviously going to last longer than three weeks to flatten the curve.
Who knew that air doesn’t move in parallel lines?
….and yet the sheeple still fail to realize they’re making it all up.
Contradicting themselves again – what’s the point of masks if screens don’t work?
Well, will the government take that advice?
Perspex screens and night curfews under the spotlight today.
Has anyone here got a list prepared of all the other useless, harmful, soul-destroying, fear-mongering measures that need to be toppled?
The main one on my list – the government!
I’m tempted to say the government should refund pub owners the cost of these ridiculous screens, but that just robs the tax payer again. If this was only one instance of bad policy, in the old normal we might have seen opposition demanding inquiries, but we’re no longer in a functional democracy.
Many of these screens become quite filthy with dust, spittle and smudges throughout the day. Some places are more diligent than others at cleaning them, but of course that means spraying cleaning fluids all over the place.
Exactly. I posted earlier that wise customers would do well to check their tetanus vaccine status before approaching the dirty things!
A picture helps visualise the science:
Wait, whaaaaat? Next they will be telling us face masks arent effective and can actually make matters worse?
You mean to tell me that a square of plastic doesn’t prevent illness? I don’t believe it!
Next you’ll tell me that strapping a piece of cloth to my face, standing an arbitrary distance away from someone or not ordering a pint without a burger won’t save my life!
Surely you mean “Scotch Egg” not Burger?!
You mean I’ve been risking my life this entire time by having a burger?! I think I’m going to faint…
🤣
Was it a substantial burger? You may be ok if so.
Or more to the point, that you can’t be infected if you sit down without a mask, but if you stand up without one you’re just a walking hazard of rampant disease.
That’s true surely, the newspapers and trusted disciples of “The Science” assured me that it spreads at an average height of 5’9″ above ground level. With that in mind, I always thought that raised bar stools should be banned, or at the very least that the occupiers of such stools should be forced to wear masks even when eating and drinking. It might get messy but if it saves just one life on a computer model then it’s worth it. They could be lethal…
You’re not one of those The Science deniers are you?
Always have a food item with you on public transport because the virus leaves you alone if you’re eating (so you don’t have to nappy up).
Fluid dynamics time again.
Imagine you’re in a swimming pool, in the 4 foot deep bit, and the pool has installed “Piss Protectors” which are 3 foot square pieces of perspex bolted to the floor.
You’re on one side of one of these screens.
Someone else is the other side.
You piss in the water.
Your piss dissolves into the water and – the magic of Brownian Motion ( Science, innit) transports some of your piss onto the skin of the other person.
Who knew that could happen?!
🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
Love it! A point well made and it made me smile too. 🙂
I made this joke up about a year ago when these stupid f**king screens started going up.
It has to be said in the voice of Bernard Manning (or Les Dawson perhaps )
“A Fluid Dynamicist, Virologist, and Epidemiologist walk into a pub …
They see a perspex screen in between them and the barman adorned with the signage ‘This screen is to keep us all safe from Covid…’
Which one do you think weeps-with-frustration first at mankind’s stupidity?”
Michael Curzon, A single tweet is not really a solid enough source to devote an entire article on Lockdown Skeptics. Could you please link to the relevant documernts and/or documents?
It’s just a talking point.
Who gave this recent advice to the government about perspec screens? On what evidence was this advice based? What arganisations/individuals produced the evidence? Come on, we need more facts, not just the gossip of “another website said x”
It was the Perspex Supplier Company. There is a rumour that a relation of Matt Hancock is the major shareholder. Déjà vu.
More bollocks! Scare tactics to confuse people even more. It makes no difference whatsoever whether theres a screen there or not! We’re in the middle of the summer, you’d be hard pressed to find any respiratory illness to transmit!!
Sage member Professor Graham Medley, interviewed earlier in the week, said something very revealing: “Government has always taken action to that it didn’t want to, it never wanted to lockdown. And it’s always going to be the case in the sense that there is this pandemic ongoing but the next pandemic will happen at some point unknown, and then having used lockdowns once it’s quite possible that the Government would choose to use them again.” We are going to be living through endless “pandemics” and endless new strains, and having been empowered and enabled to introduce lockdowns and “get away with it” in Neil Ferguson’s infamous words, governments across the Western world will continue to impose on-off restrictions year after year, and there is nobody of sufficient clout or conviction to oppose it.
…..and there is nobody of sufficient clout or conviction to oppose it.
That sort of thing is supposed to be the job of governments. Instead they blithely line their pockets by aiding and abetting the globalists to depopulate the planet by lethal injection. A revolution is long overdue.
This one made me absolutely hoot. They actually realised that little Covvie can get round a plastic screen!
How long did it take us to realise that, friends! Two seconds? Less?
Perspex was too expensive for our NHS office. Separate building, no patient contact, but still requested by some employees. So they used plywood and we are now each in a little wooden box.Team morale killed overnight.
I bet working there in hot weather is fun.
And at some future time, they’ll discover that face knickers are really, really bad and ban then, yeah.