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Flu and Pneumonia Deaths Now 10 Times Higher Than Covid Deaths

by Toby Young
22 June 2021 3:25 PM

The latest data from the ONS, published today, reveals that just 84 people died of Covid in England and Wales in the week ending June 11th, less than 10% of deaths from flu and pneumonia and one of the lowest weekly totals since the pandemic began. Sarah Knapton, the Telegraph‘s Science Editor, has more.

The number of people dying with flu and pneumonia on their death certificate in England and Wales is now ten times higher than those with Covid, figures show.

Latest weekly data on deaths from the Office for National Statistics (ONS) shows there were just 84 deaths mentioning Covid in the week ending June 11. In contrast, there were 1,163 deaths involving flu and pneumonia.

Registered Covid deaths fell by 14% since the last update in the week ending June 4th, when there were 98 deaths recorded.

Covid deaths now make up just 0.8% of all deaths – down from 1.3% in the previous week, despite the fact that week included the late May bank holiday, which meant there were fewer death registrations.

The latest figure of 84 deaths is only the third time the weekly total has dipped below 100 since last September, and is one of the lowest since the pandemic began.

Worth reading in full.

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nickbowes
nickbowes
4 years ago

But flu is now covid .. or it is it the other way round. Whatever, we have a jab to sell !!!

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BJs Brain is Missing
BJs Brain is Missing
4 years ago

The counter-covid evidence is streaming in now and is undeniable. This will be the downfall of this criminal and corrupt regime.

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realarthurdent
realarthurdent
4 years ago
Reply to  BJs Brain is Missing

Only if the media starts to question their own narrative.
The problem is that the media is part of the regime.

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J4mes
J4mes
4 years ago
Reply to  BJs Brain is Missing

Or this could be because they anticipate the effects of the ‘vaccine’ will take over in the autumn and be labelled as covid. I desperately hope your theory is the correct one.

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RickH
RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  BJs Brain is Missing

“This will be the downfall of this criminal and corrupt regime”

Sorry to be negative : but dream on.

The ‘counter-evidence’ has been there from the start. I did my first analysis in April 2020 – as did many others. And it was obvious then that the ‘unprecedented’ nature of this virus was a complete myth. Since then, we have had a mountain of evidence to show the dishonesty and incompetence surrounding the ‘official’ narrative.

Despite that, foreign gene cultures have been injected into a majority of the population, and, although there are signs of people ignoring ‘the rules’, the vast majority I observed entering service stations and pubs at the weekend faithfully donned their masks.

No, there’s a long, long way to go before the majority cotton on. Remember – people don’t like admitting to being fooled – and a majority also have a serious level of basic, induced fear which Johnson’ performance last week was designed to ramp up again. I didn’t hear any general outrage at his obvious ploy – just a muted sigh of weariness.

Last edited 4 years ago by RickH
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Sandra Barwick
Sandra Barwick
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

Yes ,Rick. And if they realise, it is even more frightening. For safety, they hold to the hand of “the scientist” priesthood. For you cannot unvaccinate.
If medium to long term effects begin to show, fear and anger will be overwhelming. Probably against us.

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robnicholson
robnicholson
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

Totally depressing read but can’t argue with it 🙁

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Cecil B
Cecil B
4 years ago
Reply to  BJs Brain is Missing

Not if they get to write the history

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IanC
IanC
4 years ago
Reply to  BJs Brain is Missing

Oh PLEEEEEEZ

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Hester
Hester
4 years ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHzEFPfDDZ8
Brave expoliceman this needs to be forwarded on to as many people as you know.

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J4mes
J4mes
4 years ago
Reply to  Hester

Great video, this man is a hero as far as I’m concerned.

Any chance of seeing this video being featured on LS?

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J4mes
J4mes
4 years ago
Reply to  J4mes

It saddens me that posts which contain simple gutter insults can receive plentiful upvotes and attention from the community on this site, while a video showing someone actually DOING something to try to fight back gets largely ignored.

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chris c
chris c
4 years ago
Reply to  Hester

Yes brilliant!

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Epi
Epi
4 years ago
Reply to  Hester

What a top notch man, brave, intelligent, knowledgeable and relentless. Hats off to you SIR!!
And thanks Hester for posting it.

Last edited 4 years ago by Epi
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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  Hester

Now up on Conservative Woman.

What a bloody hero.

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Hester
Hester
4 years ago

1 death today in the 80-89 age group
go look at the figures on the NHS website, I wonder how many Cancer and heart disease victims died as a result of Hancock and his circus of death

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chris c
chris c
4 years ago
Reply to  Hester

And while 84 people died “of covid” how may in the same week died of the vaccine?

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Cristi.Neagu
Cristi.Neagu
4 years ago

Notice how the vast majority of flu and pneumonia deaths had them as a contributing factor only, but with covid the majority were due to covid. I call BS on that.

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RickH
RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  Cristi.Neagu

Good point. Essentially, all are current respiratory infections with overlapping symptoms.

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RickH
RickH
4 years ago

Absorb with care.

Nobody knows the contribution of SARS-CoV-2, let alone Covid ( note how the two are still confused (deliberately?)

We can be pretty sure, however, that its role continues to be overestimated.

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Margaret
Margaret
4 years ago

Headlines. “U.K. reports 27 more Covid related deaths”.
Just been on PHE which shows that those 27 deaths amount to a rate of 0.1 per 100,000 people.
Let’s continue with the destruction of an entire country then.

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Epi
Epi
4 years ago
Reply to  Margaret

Why not might as well go the whole hog. 😡

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skrat00p
skrat00p
4 years ago

To keep on with the restrictions, unless you really think the government is trying to kill us, I think you would have to believe: That there’s a real risk of a new variant killing lots of people in flu season. Or overwhelming the NHS. Or both. Either way the dread optic of people dying on trolleys. That the vaccine works That the instant restrictions are relaxed and the world feels normal, everybody will stop taking the vaccine So you keep lockdown and fear going so that everyone keeps taking the vaccine, so we’re all safe come sniffles season. It won’t affect the already-terrified, it won’t affect the skeptics, but it might just keep the “swing voters” turning up to get injected. Same logic explains why as a politician you would wish oh wish that you could mandate vaccination, stick it into children etc… just to drive the rates up. Not that I believe the above points, but that’s the only set of beliefs I can think of that explains the behavior. If I were selling vaccines, I would try to get the government to adopt those beliefs. I think it would be a comfortable set of beliefs for a politician… Read more »

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Mike Yeadon
Mike Yeadon
4 years ago
Reply to  skrat00p

They are planning to kill us.
I hope this is helpful.

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Cecil B
Cecil B
4 years ago

What a giggle

For 15 months badge the flu and pneumonia deaths as covid

Now change of tack and brand the vaccine deaths as flu and pneumonia

What’s in a name

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zners
zners
4 years ago

So first time the justification for lock down were deaths, then they slowwwly shifted it to be cases. Now it’s going to be based on a a potential “future cases”

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annicx
annicx
4 years ago
Reply to  zners

What really makes me laugh is all this ‘save the NHS’ nonsense, whilst doctors are refusing to see people and instead sending them miles from home to A&E which is being overwhelmed by people who just want to see a doctor. Makes sense, right?

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Epi
Epi
4 years ago
Reply to  annicx

As much sense as anything else in this crazy world.

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vlysander
vlysander
4 years ago

The thing ive found after all this covid stuff is that influenza is lumped in with pneumonia deaths, pneumonia can be caused by a 100 different things and be contracted due to weak immune systems due to other illnesses or treatments (vaccines).
The whole thing is a farce and lies.

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Cecil B
Cecil B
4 years ago

I am very concerned for the future

I come from a long line of useless eaters

In fact my grandfather Albert held the Upper Chuppleduck useless eater title every year from 1926 to 1933

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Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

The Blackcountry has a famous history of pop manglers

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I am Spartacas
I am Spartacas
4 years ago

Either this government is very sinister or very stupid – I can’t make up my mind yet but either way if you wanted a masterplan on how to destroy a country, its people and its economy then you could not come up with a better strategy than the one this government has implemented over the past sixteen months – if it was a case of gross incompetence then those involved must all face the consequences of public enquiries, trials and even prison sentences where criminal negligence is found – if it was a case of wilful destruction in order to bring about some kind of new world order then those found guilty of engaging in this crime against humanity should put up against a wall and shot.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  I am Spartacas

It is the latter part of your comment- wilful destruction leading to depopulation.

I prefer the word genocide. It is more appropriate.

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annicx
annicx
4 years ago
Reply to  I am Spartacas

It’s definitely destroying the economy and thus the country- at my wife’s firm they virtually had to shut down because a woman who works there knows someone who’s son had a positive test…utter madness. You simply cannot run businesses in this fashion long term. Corbyn couldn’t possibly have done a better job.

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Bella Donna
Bella Donna
4 years ago
Reply to  annicx

Surely you meant Corbyn couldn’t possibly have done a worse job

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Sandra Barwick
Sandra Barwick
4 years ago
Reply to  I am Spartacas

I am afraid sinister is the only conclusion. Injecting children who are not at risk with a spike protein they know can damage and kill is the clincher, if you needed one.

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Bella Donna
Bella Donna
4 years ago
Reply to  Sandra Barwick

To intentionally harm the citizens is a Crime Against Humanity and the gravest penalty should be exacted on Johnson’s government.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  Sandra Barwick

Absolutely.

If we accept the nonsense of “following the science,” then by their own logic there are NO grounds WHATSOEVER for injecting children.

Quite simply none. Therefore by their own logic they are not following “the science” and what they are doing must be put down to a deliberate and prior constructed plan. There will not therefore be any mitigating factors available in defence.

Once the killing of children starts the game is up. That will be when the situation turns truly nasty.

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Bella Donna
Bella Donna
4 years ago
Reply to  I am Spartacas

They aren’t stupid but they think we are!

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Mike Yeadon
Mike Yeadon
4 years ago
Reply to  I am Spartacas

Anyone arguing this is some kind of cockup deserves derision.

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Milos
Milos
4 years ago

Yes, this is the plot from the ONS! First of all, I agree with most people here, especially with Cristi.Neagu (and RickH): “Notice how the vast majority of flu and pneumonia deaths had them as a contributing factor only, but with covid the majority were due to covid. I call BS on that.” First of all, look at the number of 5y average deaths involving influenza and pneumonia (pneumonia which can be caused by another ILI or common cold respiratory virus). It’s huge. And it oscillates a lot between winter and summer. Disease from respiratory viruses are often the last drop for many people at the end of their lives. Common cold viruses can cause pneumonia in nursing home patients and then death; they can infect/make-sick half of the patients and kill those infected with IFR~10%. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2095096/ There are more respiratory viruses circulating in winter. Expected total deaths are also higher in winter. It makes sense. Look at c19 with/from deaths. They kind of followed excess deaths in UK. But also with/from pneumonia deaths follows roughly excess deaths! (I assume here that pneumonia in the right plot do not correspond to same deaths in the c19/left plot). So, how can… Read more »

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JohnK
JohnK
4 years ago
Reply to  Milos

Wise comments. One of the main issues we are witnessing is a degree of opportunism, encouraged by political incompetence.

Looking on the bright side, I did watch some of GBN’s output yesterday evening (20:00), in which A Neil gave a somewhat positive speech – although I don’t agree with the whole lot. He went on to interview Karol Sikora, which seemed reasonable, albeit guarded re the causes of the ongoing difficulties in his area (being Cancer, if no one is familiar with him). That said, there is little independent journalism on offer yet, to most people.

You’re spot on in the last paragraph too. I think there are probably loads of us who automatically dealt with it around then, including myself. No one is interested in finding out – when I offered a suitable blood sample for that purpose, the local quack turned a blind eye to it. The cash flow would be in the wrong direction, for much of the trade, unfortunately.

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sophie123
sophie123
4 years ago

You know what also looks like pneumonia? Lots of little blood clots in the lungs.

Where could all those be coming from? 🤔

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Sandra Barwick
Sandra Barwick
4 years ago

Could a journalist ask them how they know it is flu? They never used to test for flu, except for a tiny sample. They assumed it in the symptoms. Are these symptoms but a negative Covid test? Or just symptoms, flick a coin?
And which flu? A variant of Ferguson’s old Swine Flu friend, for which he has a vaccine which injures children in his back pocket?

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Sandra Barwick
Sandra Barwick
4 years ago
Reply to  Sandra Barwick

They may be building to a flu crisis, new experimental “vaccines” needed for this or you will all die again. In case no Covid scariant turns up.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  Sandra Barwick

I couldn’t agree more.

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SweetBabyCheeses
SweetBabyCheeses
4 years ago

If I was seriously ill in hospital and it was a life or death type situation I’d really hope that the Doctors treating me had a firm grasp of what my diagnosis was and so how they might be able to treat me. The NHS used to go with the simplest (aka cheapest) tests and start narrowing it down. Obviously the precise tests they’d order would be dependent on my symptoms and risk factors.

Cov testing has essentially become screening not testing. Doctors aren’t told what the PCR ct count was and no one knows the false positive/negative rates so it’s essentially useless.

So what I want to know is how many “cases” are being treated for covid on the basis of positive tests only? Doctors must know they can’t diagnose it on that basis alone as it could be a serious deviation from the correct treatment?

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Peter W
Peter W
4 years ago

…but what about The Variant?
And what if ….. or….and..if…maybe..?

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chaos
chaos
4 years ago

Like Delingpole I will happily forgo NHS mistreatment. Their collusion in the covid scam, killing thousands of innocents.. witholding treatment.. lies..

I carry the following now in my wallet:

I have zero faith in the national health service aka the covid health service. In the event of an accident or illness I do not consent to NHS treatment or hospital admission.

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Mike Yeadon
Mike Yeadon
4 years ago

The numbers could be zero. They’re not going to let up. So take it back or be in prison indefinitely.

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tom171uk
tom171uk
4 years ago

So now we have to wear snot rags on our faces to ward off flu!

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