Professor Stephen Reicher, a leading SAGE Psychologist, says the new Health Secretary’s view that people should learn to live with Covid “as we already do with flu” is “frightening”, despite such a large proportion of the population (including the most vulnerable to the virus) having been vaccinated. Professor Reicher criticised Sajid Javid for wanting “to ditch all protections while only half of us are [fully] vaccinated”. “The key message of the pandemic,” he said on Twitter, “is this isn’t an ‘I’ thing, it’s a ‘we’ thing. Your behaviour affects my health.”
The MailOnline has more.
The broadside from the University of St Andrews academic comes after Mr Javid, who replaced disgraced Matt Hancock last weekend after the former Health Secretary was caught flouting lockdown with his mistress, called the health reasons for lifting restrictions “compelling”.
Writing in the Mail on Sunday, the new Health Secretary says the U.K. is “on track” to escape almost every vestige of lockdown on July 19th, adding: “We will have a country that is not just freer, but healthier, too.”
But he makes no secret of the challenges he faces as Health Secretary, admitting that he has “the biggest in-tray I’ve had at any department – and I’ve run five”. …
The Prime Minister is preparing to announce a raft of measures to come into force from July 19th which will “make Britain the most open country in Europe”. Under plans expected to be signed off by the Cabinet tomorrow, fully-vaccinated people will be able to travel to “Amber List” countries including Spain and Greece without having to self-isolate when they return.
The school “bubbles” system that has seen hundreds of thousands of pupils being forced to self-isolate at home will be axed and replaced with daily testing, while hospitality businesses will no longer have to demand that customers provide their personal data or sign in with a “QR” code.
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A psychologist – evidently too ignorant and stupid to understand the issues here, because you’d have to be profoundly ignorant, or profoundly stupid, or lying, to claim to still believe that this disease is genuinely frightening..
No surprise he’s advising this government and being given a platform to harm the country through membership of SAGE.
How very very true. We know many of these so called “academics” today are virtually pig-ignorant. They certainly have no understanding of history, culture and creativity.
Many seem wholly unqualified to offer anything other than personal opinions or prejudices. It’s all roughly equivalent to running a suggestions box, tombola or lucky (?) Dip. A pity that the Mail and others are so dense that they don’t realise these vile, overvalued fools are conning them.
They do realise it — The Daily Mail and others are just looking for headlines and clicks — they don’t give a fig what damage it is doing to genuinely frightened people —- The Daily Mail have been a disgrace
What bleeds, leads
The Mail and others are in on the con!
Many in the media and in government benefit personally from Pharmaceutical company profits, and ‘Big Pharma’ advertising keeps many media outlets afloat
Or spirituality..in it’s widest sense.
Nether ignorant nor stupid, but greedy, corrupt and intent on hanging onto the influence and power enjoyed by SAGE members for the last 16 months. Never in the field of human science was so much suffering inflicted on so many by so few experts.
This guy is a social psychologist. As far as I can see, he’s no expert in the domains of physical health or mental health. The fact that he’s so frightened at the prospect of dropping further covid restrictions suggests that he’s suffering with his own mental health and needs professional help.
Yes – it does – What is wrong with this man —
His mental health may be poor, however, I’m sure his financial health is excellent.
Surely he’s not taking advantage – unbelievable.
😂😂😂😂😂
Most SAGE members are leaching off the taxpayer. They are socialists and communists and need to be swept away like dead leaves on the garden path.
Isn’t Michie a millionaire commie, straight out of the Chinese model
This arsehole should front at our local Stand in The Park and talk to some real people whose lives have been devastated by this ‘ behavioural brainwashing stuff they peddle in the safety of their comfy houses…
How about standing him in front of a firing squad?
We have to hope that Javid holds his nerve, because it’s pretty much a given that over the next fortnight the SAGEers are going to be popping up in the media regularly with their ‘too soon’ predictions of doom, and trying to force the government to do what they are told.
Try telling that to all the sectors of the economy who have had their livelihoods trashed over the past 18 months…
I don’t think the twat has stepped out his front door for the past year, sat at home sorting his book collection A-Z earning his full salary thinking I’m alright jack. No fuckin’ clue about the real world.
I am wondering why lockdown sceptics gave this gentleman so much air time? No one even heard of him til this article. But suddenly he is given centre stage.
Gentleman?
A gentleman is indeed a rarity nowadays.
Quite – not dealing almost daily with hospitality having to self-isolate because somebody else tested positive with a test that’s got problems to say the least. Javid was completely right in saying that we can improve people’s overall health by opening up. It’s time for Covid trumps all other diseases to simply stop.
Yes, the next fortnight is going to be relentless interviews and articles like this trying to get government to back down. Javid should try to get Greg Abbott and Ron De Santis to publicly support him to counter it.
I wish he would get DeSantis or Abbott to publicly support him…. I do wonder Javid will recognise anyone with a backbone – he hasn’t seen one in our Government that is for sure
Again and Kristi Noem!!
And Kristi Noem. People always forget about South Dakota and I think she’s the best and that’s not just for the obvious reason – honest!
“Please sir! I’ve found a variant. It looks really scary!!”
How do they find the variants? (Genuine question)
The answer to his question is him.
He’s just too stupid to realise that what matters is the health of everyone in every respect, not just the handful that get covid. The moron doesn’t realise he is actually destroying the physical and mental health of millions.
I bet he does but this is his 15 minutes of fame.
Or does he?
Sajid javid is not really making the decisions, this is being driven by somebody bigger than mr. Javid and it isn’t sage.
Pharma Gates?
An idiot from Independent SAGE just turned up on the BBC. They aren’t letting go.
Professor Stephen Reicher is quite clearly mad. Can he really be a ‘leading’ psychologist or is he just some nutter off the street who blagged his way into a SAGE meeting and has never left. I think the only part of his description that is correct is the ‘psycho’ part. How can the government uncritically accept the blathering of these people?
You hide away in your book lined study mate, and let the rest of us get on with it. Bet all his books are shit, too. Twat.
He works on things like the collective psychology of fear. No aurprises there.
Marxist dialectical bollox…or porn…
Stephen Reicher; whoever you are, (a complete, irrelevant nonentity as far as I’m concerned)…..
Please, please…. just fuck off.
Couldn’t put it better myself. 👍
Neither could I!
#me too! Sorry couldn’t resist it.
Well argued, and to the point.
But what about his life work: putting the shits up the populace for no discernible reason? Surely he’s entitled to some praise?
Reicher should examine his own behaviour. As a behavioural researcher on the economic side I would suggest that like many psychologists his own neuroticism and narcissism is the driving behaviour. As one of the chief plague bell ringers, his grandiose fearmongering will be played up by the equally guilty MSM. I am no Tory supporter but from a policy point view Javid needs to keep his eyes on the prize and put SAGE and it’s catastrophic cast of hand wringers and panic merchants back in the box.
Dear Professor Reicher, precisely which modelling outputs did you “vote” against since you were appointed a member of SAGE or, if that is not the case, do you consider the number of positive cases resulting from RT PCR tests with a CT of over 35 to be a true and accurate measure of people who are infectious at the time of their test, regardless of their symptoms? Have you lobbied within SAGE for confirmatory tests in EACH RT PCR derived positive test – yes or no? Have you agreed with the definition of CV19 death – as amended – and what is the precise number of deaths following a RT PCR derived positive test, within the period where the virus is known to reach a critical load, where no co-morbidities have existed, since January 2020? Finally did you agree with the downgrading of CV19 from a “High Consequence Infectious Disease” in March 2020? If the answers are , in turn, All of them, No, Yes, No, small and No, why are you still a member of SAGE? If you have answered in a different way to any of the questions in the last sentence, please shut up, get out a… Read more »
I’m not going to add anything intelligent to this conversation other than my contempt with the following words:
Fuck off you utter delusional cretin!
Sometimes straightforward profanity is the only reasonable response.
SAGE members, most of whom appear to have few qualifications and even less sense, are as numerous as fleas on a dog’s back. This latest oracle is merely a halfwit
Hands up who voted for SAGE?
I take it that upticks don’t count!
If you’re scared buy a stock of ffp3 masks or a hazmat suit.
Your health is your problem, not mine. My immune system works.
And lock yourself in your wardrobe…forever.
I’ve purposely created this account because someone finally needs to do something to shoot what I believe to be the biggest of all COVID lies: «Your behaviour affects my health.»
(and therefore, I’m justified to demand whatever I want from you to – unselfishly – protect me).
No, Sir Babyboomer (likely — the guy seems to keep his age secret), it doesn’t. As side effect of living and the corresponding bodily functions – completely beyond my control – my body might get infected with a virus. This virus may then – again completely beyond my control – pass on to other people in the same accidental way. YOUR behaviour affects your health. If you mix with other people, the above may also happen to your body. So don’t. We won’t miss you.
Well said!!
Baby Boomer here. I am horrified, disgusted, and a whole lot of unprintable stuff, with some of my fellow boomers. Note that it is limited to boomers ….
No offence intendend. I realize this is a bit of a broad brush. However, the scamdemic is again (to a large degree, at least) the work of the same people who have been behind every carefully orchestrated media armageddon in Europe (and the USA) since some time in the 1970s (the original one was “OMG! We’ll run out of oil!!”, in case someone still remembers that — ironically, one of the present crazes is “OMG! We’ll not run out of oil!!”).
As member of the “generation in between we pretend that doesn’t exist” (ie, Im too young to belong to them and too old to be among their children), I’m meanwhile thoroughly tired of this, because it seems someone else spent all of my life “fighting” against ever-changing imaginary desasters.
As Nietzsche once put it: One of the mark of the decadent is to transform the observation “I’m going under.” into the imperative “Everything shall perish!”
I’m a boomer too and similarly disgusted with almost all my boomer friends and relatives. I have been called “selfish” and “stupid” for refusing the vax and also “silly”. When challenged, none came up with any justification for their remarks. I’m incredulous
What’s frightening is that these collectivist ideologues have the power to have you committed and to shut down public life.
There isn’t a shred of evidence that “your behavior affects my health”. All the studies have shown that non-pharmaceutical interventions do nothing to stop the spread of the pandemic. We need to make sure that people like this never have any influence over our freedoms again.
What I find equally despicable is that MailOnLine and other media outlets trawl for such people and their Tweets knowing full well it sets people off against each other once again. Make no mistake, MSM NEVER want the current situation to end as they clearly love the division it creates.
Bang on!
Spot on, the MSM, of which the DM is by far the worst, doesn’t want this to end. All they care about is stirring up controversy, uncertainty and fear.
Sadly This is TREE
That was supposed to say TRUE
“Your behaviour affects my health.”
Well, your influence on governmental edicts affects the mental health of a significant proportion of the populace, and drives people to suicide.
We’ve had two incidents on the bridge near where I live this week, resulting in one death and one, luckily (!) surviving, albeit with shattered limbs. This takes the running total of jumpers to five in the last six months. Normally, we have zero incidents each year. And an acquaintance is off to the funeral of a friend’s son next week, who killed himself at home, leaving behind his young children. Of course, each of these six incidents might have nothing to do with the ongoing restrictions, but as I said, normally we get a minimal number of suicides locally.
Obviously, Mr Reicher, you value your own health above the lives of these six young men.
Mr Reicher can sit in his nice home whilst other people go to work to empty his bins, keep his utilities flowing in and out and pick, pack and deliver his internet orders. Did he offer to change places with any of these people so they could shelter at home?
Well said!
Reicher and his like are parasites, in the true sense of the word.
Looks like Mr Reicher hasn’t quite finished his public control experiment just yet, I bet he’s gutted. All the Sage scientists should be told to shut up by the government but Bozo is to pathetic. The MSM will have the Sage morons singing their fear laden doom for the next fortnight until number 10 submits again.
well it is but not for the reason you’re implying. Pretty sure covid isn’t killing youngsters like flu does.
I don’t often bother, but I just googled this person. He comes across as a nasty piece of work.
Anyone who remains a communist after the cruel and bloody history of the 20th century just has to be a nasty piece of work. And most of SAGE, if not all of them, are commies.
There is no doubt in my mind that a thorough and intensive investigation needs to be undertaken on the role that members of SAGE have embarked upon during this inhumane Covid debacle.
Just one of the lunatics currently in charge of the asylum..Och away wid ye ..ya self serving cowering timerous beastie!
The ATL appeals – “but we’ve all been jabbed” – are both pitiful and comical.
What a complete arse!
And …
“this isn’t an ‘I’ thing, it’s a ‘we’ thing.”
is really wacky because, in reality, it is 180 degrees the other way around. It is _they_, who are the embodiment of the ‘I’ mentality.
All of these deluded fanatics proclaiming that they are motivated by the ‘We’ principle.
What?!?!
This arse-about-face alternate-reality shit is extremely galling.
He and Michie have been instrumental in the fearmongering of the government throughout.
They have committed enough damage.
No more should it be allowed.
And yet the PM allows it. Is it his weakness, or are they following his orders, or what? We shall probably never know.
Johnson is merely a protected puppet who HAS to do as he is told….How on earth do you think a completely useless, lazy, low IQ, talentless imbecile has got so high up the ladder? He has survived so many scandals and misdemeanors that would have ended the careers of most other people years ago!!!
Does anyone know about this guy’s politics? Do we have another Communist here?
More theatre. Now I see what they will do with Javid, they will play on the fear and show him to be too reckless when actually he speaking on true themes. Behavioural brainwashing continues…
Its tempting to think these people are deuded. But they are not. They know exactly the effect of their words. They are the personification of evil.
What has happened is that they very recklessly agreed to the jab and are so much in denial about its inadequacies and dangers that for the survival of their fragile egos they need to prove that lockdowns and vaccines are the saviours
But yes that is evil behaviour
Fuck me the comments below that first Twitter post. I’d love to tear their silly comments, bed wetting lies and terrible attempts at logic to shreds here but really I cannot deal with the rage it would entail.
Don’t get excited. It’s all scripted.
the prospect of being hauled in front of Nuremberg II for crimes against humanity.
Now THAT is something that should be keeping him awake!
I hope so
I accept his premise that my actions have consequences and I take full responsibility for them.
Call off all the rules, let us do as we like and I will take personal responsibility for any harm I cause. If you can prove I made some one ill and died as a result I will take the rap.
Now will this psychologist who wants to tell everyone else how to live their lives take responsibility for his actions and for any damage.or harm he causes?
This (his premise) is just nonsense: Viruses spread independently of conscious human actions. There’s only one thing people can control here and that’s their own exposure.
Each time one of these fkers opens their mouths it adds 2 years to the date when I might sit down and think about having the vaccine.
Two articles that epitomise the debate, this is opinion of a learned man – we just don’t know what he has learned is any good.
Then we have John A. Fairclough, an Hon. Consultant Trauma and Orthopaedic Surgeon at the University Hospital of Wales and Professor Emeritus at Cardiff Metropolitan University – a lifetime of integrity expressed in medical science.
Javid is in a different league to his predecessor he has already demonstrated his integrity – remember when PM wanted him to sack his treasury team – he resigned before betraying trust. He will go where he sees integrity.
A politician who recognises and values integrity? What miracle is this?