Opinion polls are sometimes poor at distinguishing between virtue-signalling and what people really think – respondents tell the pollsters what they think they are supposed to say, especially on issues that have become moralised, like anti-Covid measures.
But actions speak louder than words. So the news that 19% of people have deleted the NHS Covid app (which pings you to tell you to self-isolate if you are identified as someone who’s come into contact with a person who’s tested positive) and so joined the 32% of people who never had it, according to a new ComRes poll, perhaps gives a better indication of how many people are not so keen on Covid restrictions. Among 18-34 year olds, over a third – 34% – have deleted the app, which is as many as still have it, while 21% never downloaded it in the first place – despite 98% owning a smartphone.
To my mind, statistics like these are a much more realistic indicator of who actually supports restrictions, since if you’re not willing to self-isolate when potentially infected, how can you be in favour of less targeted measures? This would mean just 42% of people are genuinely in favour of restrictions continuing.
True, you have to allow for the 16% of adults who don’t have a smartphone. If we assume this group splits in their views in the same proportions as those who do have a smartphone then we get 44.5% against restrictions in practice versus 50.5% in favour. This is probably an upper bound for those in favour, as some may just be saying they have the app even though they don’t, and some may have downloaded it just for appearance’s sake. Furthermore, some may not be supportive of measures beyond isolation of contacts (though I assume that anyone who favours more restrictive measures must favour self-isolation of contacts as it seems the bare minimum of restrictions beyond isolation of the infected).
Among 18-34 year-olds, those opposed to restrictions (by this measure) outnumber those in favour by 55% to 34%.
Such figures sound much more likely to me than the alarming support for draconian restrictions that often appears in opinion polls. They suggest that if politicians think the public are solidly behind the continuation of restrictions then they are in for a nasty shock come polling day. Politicians should pay closer attention to what people do than what they say.
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Leave your phone at home folks and sign in as Mr B Johnson. That’s all I do !
Alexander de Pfeffel Johnson confuses them if they check it…
Typo, the mans middle name if Piffle
and his last name is not Johnson but Kemal…
Jongson
And give your address as Rock Ridge.
… and fart.
Loudly.
Dangerous – you may find cyanide added to your drinks!
Mr Nick Sturgeon, at your service.
Telephone number Whitehall 1212.
Eric Blair
W12 7RJ
01984 101 101
I think one must also assume that quite a number of people have downloaded the app thinking that it is the only app to verify their vaccine status – when that is done on the NHS app, not the Covid app. I’ve pointed this out to several people already.
I have a smart phone, but have never downloaded the app. I also have a Siemens A50 for public use. “Uh, I don’t think this supports apps?”. The battery being flat helps. “Oh dear, silly me, I forgot to charge it”.
NHS IT. Drop the first letter and re-arrange. I read the IT press and all the horror stories of NHS IT, so no way would I install any of their stuff on my hardware. Maybe the young uns hadn’t read about it, they seem to know better now.
Considering that the next prime minister will either be Tory or Labour, ie come from the party of “lock down harder” or from the party of “lock down harder than the other party” regardless of what people vote for, I don’t understand why politicians should pay attention to that.
The nice thing about a mature democracy, ie, one where coaltions are the norm and not the exception, is that voters get the choose people but not policies.
In theory.
In practice, it’s the same sh*t all over the place, whether PR or FPTP.
https://www.rubikon.news/artikel/die-beute-der-parteien
Unless and until there is a libertarian revolution, possible after the money has run out and the Covid hoax has been exposed, or sortition is introduced and all political parties are abolished.
The Greeks knew it right away.
The money will run out at the same time the water in a hot tub will run out due to the bubble pump being on.
And for the same reason.
The water will go cold, i.e the bath will not be warm.
not Reform or Heritage then? Pity.
I find that pointing your phone in the direction of a QR code and fumbling for a few seconds gives the staff the plausible deniability that they need at the very few establishments that actually ask.
And, no, obviously I didn’t download the app. I’m surprised that even half of the population is using it. This poll is probably biased in favour of app users as well.
In https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/57779371 the BBC appears to indicate that there have been 26 million total downloads. I’m surprised that many people did download it. But, I’m sure that there have been huge numbers of deletes or people who never activated it in the first place.
Just take meaningless, ill-focused picture if you don’t want to get into argy-bargy with the poor buggers who are just trying to hold on to a job.
https://hack-and-trace.me/
Allows you to not even going through the fumbling pretence.
We were given the opportunity to write down our contact details at our prayer meeting. Once. And it was made clear that we were legally entitled to refuse our details. And that it was not a sin. So far as I am concerned, anywhere that refuses entry to people who do not give contact details (and there have been horror stories about women ending up getting harassed) is going beyond what the law says.
Sorry, William – but you simplify these results into a dichotomy, which is only a partial insight.
Briefly – there is a distinction between those who choose to ignore the flummery of Coviditis, and those who actively oppose it. The difference is profound when it comes to overturning tacit support for the government.
But on the other hand, the proportion actively opposing can be surprisingly small and still have an impact, if they are genuinely committed and active.
Many anecdotes suggest that we are the 14%, or one seventh of the population.
Normally, that should be enough.
But this time, nothing is normal anymore.
They hold the high ground.
I no longer have a smartphone, and it will stay that way.
I’m a rational man, but am increasingly convinced the Media, government and pollsters collude to gain their shared objectives. Think of Brexit, the US Presidential Elections, the Climate alarmism.
What do they have to gain? Power.
The polls have clearly been manipulated to show a majority in favour of lockdown, vaccination and covid passports.
I pray for truth and light to expose the corruption, and for judgment to fall on the guilty.
Agree but that won’t happen.
All active players and most passive supporters and bystanders have invested so much psychologically into the Covid, vaccine, woke and climate change etc. narratives that there is simply no way back or out of it anymore for them, ever.
All they can do is doubling down, especially on those who still dissent, and hope for the best/miracles.
The sunk cost fallacy.
Next up comes maybe a situation similar to when the Nazis were trying to get a favourable peace agreement on their terms in April 1945, thereafter then: TSWHTF.
And even thereafter, when the cult has finally ended in and with the catastrophe, few will really change their convictions.
And some polling companies are owned by Government ministers
Truth? those were the days!
why would even 1 percent want restrictions to carry on? are people stupid?
Stupid, cowardly, lazy and greedy, yes.
Did you just notice?
Probably ignorant enough of the realities of inflation as a symptom of a destroyed economy.
They are soon going to find out all about inflations effects the hard way
You need to appreciate the underpinning psychology. And yes – obviously people are that ‘stupid’ in that root sense.
Yes
Young people need to fight for their liberty. And by fight, I mean fight. Organize!
I need at least 6 more weeks to recover from my hemi-colectomy before my surgeon gives me the all clear before I can fight again.
I can’t wait
“6 more weeks to recover from my hemi-colectomy before my surgeon gives me the all clear before I can fight again“
Ouch! Iirc from last year – unless I’ve got the wrong guy – you were a keen martial artist, so presumably you’ve been out of action for a while.
Never a good place to be.
Mark, you’ve absolutely got the right guy 🙂
Yep, 12 weeks out of action 😖 I really feel like hitting someone at the moment, particularly today 😡
My experience in hospital was excellent, I was treated in a kind, compassionate and professional manner. Never was I challenged about my lack of mask. My surgeon even shook my hand when I offered it. 🤔
Good stuff. Hopefully you’ll get a good clean recovery and be back in action good as new.
Drastic surgery has much better recovery prospects these days (I’m comparing with my youth a few decades back), as I’m sure you know. I had part of a lung removed a couple of years ago, and I got the better of a longsword bout against a 23 year old karate instructor of about the same swordfighting experience as me today, so not doing badly….
Thanks Mark
Longsword fighting! You’re mental 🙂 I’ve done escrima in the past, with body armoured. I would’ve loved to do low-armour escrima, but due to my aortic valve replacement, I’m on anticoagulants and my wife and doctor don’t think it’s a good idea 🤔
I can’t wait to get back on the mat.
“I’m on anticoagulants and my wife and doctor don’t think it’s a good idea “
They’re probably right, sadly. Not done any escrima apart from a couple of informal demos, but have done a bit of big stick stuff, staff/polearm. That’s pretty intimidating!
“I can’t wait to get back on the mat.“
Best of luck with it. I know how frustrating being out injured is.
Thanks fellah 👍🏻
I am glad to hear that you are recovering well. All the best 🤗
Thanks SBC 🤗
Now that is a game I really enjoy “ offer to shake hands” its hilarious!
Yes, you know straight away where you are with people. Also the ‘how close can I get’ game. I have to do this a lot, as I am hard of hearing.
It’s a real IQ/character test. Depending on happens next and the context of the situation, I can then treat them appropriately.
Young people are all- in with the scam and tyranny.
Xers and octogenarians+ are the only ones who do oppose and would lead a fight.
Boomers and Millennials are the worst and have teamed up.
See The 4th Turning.
True, you have to allow for the 16% of adults who don’t have a smartphone. If we assume this group splits in their views in the same proportions as those who do have a smartphone then we get 44.5% against restrictions in practice versus 50.5% in favour. This analysis is very wobbly, and therefore incorrect, I’m afraid. One doesn’t have to allow for the 16% who don’t have a smartphone, as this is already factored into the survey question (that is it includes those without a smartphone in the survey responses). So for all groups 51% (not 44.5%) are against restrictions and 42% (not 50.5%) are in favour. I quote from above graph: Which of the following statements is closest to your experience regarding the NHS Covid 19 app? a) Currently have appb) used to have app, since deleted.c) never had app / don’t have smartphone Statement ‘c’ already includes that do not have a smartphone, the results are as they stand without further corrections or speculation. Going to the given source of the article (Metro) it is also worth noting that: Another third have said they want to delete the app by July 19 when restrictions lift, It is also… Read more »
Interesting points!
I simply say that I don’t have the NHS app. When the hapless waiter then takes out the clipboard and pen to write down my details, I give them an incorrect number, the same one every time. It practically trips off the tongue now. One day in future, I’m going to call that number to apologise for all the forced stay-at-home I’ve put them through!
I just give them the number of a Covidian ex-mate.
I have a foreign sounding surname, I write down a regular English name which looks roughly similar to my real name, for plausible deniability. Almost had a heart attack when my daughter leaned over to inspect it and started saying ‘but daddy, that’s wrong’. I quickly dissembled. I’d anticipated it so had something ready.
I suppose in principle the government could track restaurant visits through credit card records, but you’d still need to notify the govt if you got Covid. Basically there are so many failure points it’s useless.
Lies, Damn Lies Government Statistics and Rigged Opinion Polls
‘19% joined the 32% who never had it.’
In other words 68% of those with smartphones HAD downloaded Trick & Trace.
I’m living in a nation of imbecillic nutters.
More meaningless crap from a newspaper poll of 2,137 respondents. The % means nothing on the small numbers. Do me a favour, please…
I just smile sweetly, but coldly, with uncovered face and say, ‘Oh no dear, I don’t do that’. I think it must be the scary school mistress demeanour and the statuesque frame because they never argue. I then give a phone number with at least one incorrect digit.
And as you observe, you can communicate better than they can, with their face obscured.
In this age group and I can say I’ve never once downloaded this app. Mostly because I didn’t want it to take up any storage space! Not to mention that the whole concept comes across as slightly creepy and patronising. Don’t really fancy being pinged every other moment of the day either.
“In for a nasty shock come polling day”?
Can you name any party we can vote for that DOESN’T endorse full lockdown, vaccines, masks and the test?
This is delusional.
Democracy – such as it was – is DEAD.
Hooray!
Spain’s highest court rules it’s lockdowns unconstitutional because ‘the state of emergency was not enough to give the restrictions constitutional backing’
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-57838615
Similar to the latest Polish High Court ruling.
Explain this one to me people.
Why would a mask fan want everybody to wear a cloth mask to filter outbound under pressure – and which therefore leaks on all sides – rather than just wearing an FFP3 mask to filter inbound under suction – and which therefore creates a close seal? Then they don’t have to worry about what anybody else is doing.
Do these same people blow the dust out of their houses with leaf blowers rather than using a vacuum like normal people?
Because it’s always been a con to call it a ‘mask’ (which is carefully avoided by official, i.e. civil service publications, in favour of the term ‘face covering’, so as not to clash with the defined BSI standards etc). The use of full-on industrial or medical FFP3 kit would be almost impossible for the general public, and wouldn’t be available – and it’s a scam, being used for psychological reasons only, most of the time. Some people just believe what they’re told by so-called experts etc, unfortunately.
“Majority oppose Covid restrictions”
Now there’s another onefor tomorrow’s front pages (which – for the benefit of younger viewers – is the cover of something called a newspaper)!
What’s an app?
As the CEO of Iceland says “get the app and their is a possibility for 10 day off work in a nutshell”
And there’s the choice…dump the app and go to work and play with impunity. Or have the app and stay at home like a scared/lazy bed wetter…
I had drug dealers live next to me. Police came looking for one of them the other month. She is wanted by police. They asked if I had seen her and told me “her phone is pinging in the local vicinity”.
That’s your freedom right there. One moment the Police are hunting down druggy scum. But later they will hunt down people who haven’t had their boosters.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2021/07/15/boris-johnson-speech-holidays-vaccine-passports-lockdown-end/
How can the fat useless alcoholic fuck and his dad and girlfriend still be prime minister?
Subscribers to The Telegates have hated him for months.
They’ve deleted it? Hooray! Hopefully, the message is beginning to get through that we’re being had!